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>> No. 26086 Anonymous
29th January 2018
Monday 6:43 pm
/emo/26086 ex-offender mega whinge
Before anyone accuses me of self-pity - I don't feel sorry for myself I feel sad and frustrated
It might be interesting to read
I've been released from prison having served three years. I'm now unemployable and without any friends, living in a hostel full of criminals in a city in England. There are drugs here, im a former heavy user, and there is alcohol everywhere. I'm on a drug which stops alcohol working as im trying to quit, having wasted money.
I'm so sorry for what I did but i cannot fix it and I think it's done a lot of damage. I have no friends, none, all deleted me. Little chance of ever getting a job, and struggling to find a tenancy. There were other offences, burglaries that I did and wasnt caught for; I feel like fucking this life off and grassing myself up for everything I ever did. I've got nothing else to do and it might make some victims feel better but WOULD it? They'd prefer to CATCH the bad guy not have him give himself up because h's got nothing left to live for.. although it would be unusual, heartwarming even.. I'd get another three years, would prob run concurrent with my current license period (1/2 in, 1/2 out for the sentenced offence) Long history of mental illness, got alot better in prison.. I was never able to love myself and had constant paranoia due to conspiracies I was constantly contemplating.. Now i feel like I cannot ever have what i always wanted - warmth and love - because of what i've done..
It matters less to me now, I just want probation and the police to leave me alone. Im not going into details about the offences although I worked out why they happened and it is damn complicated, psychologically.
Anyone been in the same position?
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>> No. 26437 Anonymous
30th March 2018
Friday 5:14 pm
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>>26425

You can expect me to rip your head off if you wake me up for anything, also, morning breath.
>> No. 26438 Anonymous
30th March 2018
Friday 5:16 pm
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>>26435

You'd have to fib on the application form where it asks if you have any convictions.
>> No. 26439 Anonymous
30th March 2018
Friday 6:31 pm
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>>26436

>There was also an agony aunt column where this girl's boyfriend's and his twin brother asked her to have a threesome. The agony aunt said these men were very dangerous and she must immediately dump him but I thought it sounded kind of hot.


One caveat there; what if a threesome like that ends with the woman getting pregnant? How do you establish who's the dad if they're identical twins? Or really in any scenario where you have sex with your identical twin brother's partner.
>> No. 26440 Anonymous
30th March 2018
Friday 7:08 pm
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>>26439
>Or really in any scenario where you have sex with your identical twin brother's partner.

The perfect crime
>> No. 26441 Anonymous
30th March 2018
Friday 7:21 pm
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>>26439
>How do you establish who's the dad if they're identical twins?
You could use a (more thorough than usual) DNA test.

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>> No. 6272 Anonymous
12th July 2017
Wednesday 9:48 pm
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I'm at the end of my postgraduate thesis, at least as far as my available time goes. Last month I agreed with my supervisors that this Friday that I would send over a complete draft for them to go over before a final submission on the 1st September at the latest.

All that has happened since then is I've mostly stared at a nearly blank page for weeks on end because I thought I would redo my literature review but I can't get it all to connect. Nothing is connecting and its horrible because I'm nowhere near a complete draft at this point. In fact I don't think any of my work has gone as planned since at least January apart from a now absolutely shining example of an introduction.

If you have any top-tips for getting writing down and eventually having a thesis together over the coming weeks let me know because I'm pretty spent right now. I don't know if maybe I should have just posted this in emo because it feels like I'm completely fucked but at the same time potentially years of my life are going down the drain which tells me I can't stop.
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>> No. 6287 Anonymous
1st September 2017
Friday 1:55 am
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>>6283
>I'm in rather awkward situation

Yes. You have to god at every opportunity at this cast iron evidence of a miracle.
>> No. 6288 Anonymous
1st September 2017
Friday 4:32 pm
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>>6286
Don't listen to this cunt. There is a higher power and every now and again, He will give you a break. Appease Him.
>> No. 6333 Anonymous
30th March 2018
Friday 2:32 pm
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Sorry to bump this thread, but I'm in a similar boat. I have a project to finish and a 45-page report to write in the next 2 and a half weeks, but every time I sit down to get on with my project, I am just filled with this malaise that causes me to get nothing done.

I just cannot get motivated to do any work at all, and within minutes I usually find myself mindlessly browsing Facebook or watching some inane video on YouTube. I really need to get this done but I can't get myself to do it.

What works for revision is going to the library and physically moving to a new location, but with this, all my files are on my main PC and so I have to stay in my room. I have tried solutions like TeamViewer but they are so slow and clunky it makes it exceptionally difficult.

I'm gonna try going to the gym to see if it gets me more regimented, but I feel guilty for not being at home and doing work, even though when I'm at home I'm not doing any work.

So far, I've averaged >85% and really don't want to fuck it up, but I cannot bring myself to just focus.
>> No. 6334 Anonymous
30th March 2018
Friday 3:32 pm
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>>6333
>What works for revision is going to the library and physically moving to a new location, but with this, all my files are on my main PC and so I have to stay in my room.

Sounds like a bit of an excuse there, m8. Use cloud storage or bring a portable disk like My Passport. A 1TB model is less than £30.

You know what works, so do what works.
>> No. 6335 Anonymous
30th March 2018
Friday 4:56 pm
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>>6334
I don't have a functional laptop (or, presently, the cash to acquire one) and the library PCs don't have the software. I'm developing in Visual Studio for Windows.

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>> No. 26427 Anonymous
30th March 2018
Friday 2:59 am
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I made a problem solving program.

https://pastebin.com/VJC92nkN
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>> No. 26429 Anonymous
30th March 2018
Friday 9:23 am
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>>26427
Now all you need is a problem causing program, and maybe you can evolve the two into skynet.
>> No. 26430 Anonymous
30th March 2018
Friday 3:23 pm
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Jugs go in /x/ m8.

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>> No. 14523 Anonymous
29th March 2018
Thursday 11:18 am
/news/14523 Spanish spies 'tracked Carles Puigdemont via friend's phone'
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/mar/27/spanish-spies-tracked-carles-puigdemont-via-friends-phone

>Sources in Spain’s National Intelligence Centre (CNI) told Spanish media outlets that the surveillance team had used the geolocation service on the mobile phone of at least one of Puigdemont’s companions to monitor his movements, as well as fitting a tracking device to the Renault Espace the group had been travelling in. Twelve CNI agents were involved in the operation.



Just to remind you what kind of world we live in.
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>> No. 14535 Anonymous
29th March 2018
Thursday 3:41 pm
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>>14533

There's a whole list of people who have access these days, from your local council to the ambulance service.
>> No. 14536 Anonymous
29th March 2018
Thursday 4:41 pm
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>>14535
I know some of you like to think otherwise, but I really don't think councils can access internet history of any sort, not under RIPA and not if the IPA and its ICRs ever enters force. Domains visited are traffic data.

It looks like the government cracked down on council snooping and there are now half decent safeguards for what they can do.

https://actnowtraining.wordpress.com/2016/09/27/ripa-and-communications-data-iocco-annual-report/
>> No. 14537 Anonymous
29th March 2018
Thursday 4:41 pm
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>>14535

Am I the only one who is genuinely troubled by this?

Why should the government, any government, be allowed to store and keep all that information about me?

And don't give me the whole "TO CATCH THAR TERRISTS AND THEM". I am neither a daft militant wog nor do I plan to ever become one, and nor should it be for a government to say that I might be one without them knowing about it.
>> No. 14539 Anonymous
29th March 2018
Thursday 5:12 pm
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>>14536
The part about keeping and making available ICRs has been in force for almost 18 months already.
>> No. 14540 Anonymous
29th March 2018
Thursday 5:39 pm
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>>14539
As a bonus, the parts criminalising exceeding the limits have not yet entered force.

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>> No. 4363 Anonymous
29th March 2018
Thursday 1:11 pm
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>> ID: 7289d4 No. 14476 Anonymous
25th February 2018
Sunday 4:42 am

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How is the .gs app coming along? Do I have to wait much longer for real time push notifications for when someone calls me a bumder on /IQ/?
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>> ID: cc0f59 No. 14613 Anonymous
29th March 2018
Thursday 12:15 am

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>>14612

>(in a secret place)

I'm well aware I have nothing to add to the conversation but this has triggered a lot of FOMO, as the kids say.
>> ID: b24853 No. 14614 Anonymous
29th March 2018
Thursday 12:17 am

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>>14613
It's the modz board lad. They've always had a modz board.
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29th March 2018
Thursday 12:27 am

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>>14614

What if there's another, secreter place I don't know about? This is all too much.
>> ID: 4260c9 No. 14616 Anonymous
29th March 2018
Thursday 12:38 am

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>>14615
Like I didn't know what I was doing.
>> ID: cc0f59 No. 14617 Anonymous
29th March 2018
Thursday 12:41 am

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>>14616

This is like when my ex would talk to other blokes in clubs to make me jealous.

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>> No. 26330 Anonymous
18th March 2018
Sunday 2:41 pm
/g/26330 Curved Monitors
I tend to use a multi monitor setup, with some horizontal, some vertical. I have an ageing Apple 30" LCD and am in the market for a new, large monitor. Samsung do a pretty good 32" now that I have used, but I notice there are a lot of very large curved monitors around now.

I am sceptical - are they really better to use than two flat monitors, correctly positioned? Anyone out there with a curved setup?
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>> No. 26365 Anonymous
21st March 2018
Wednesday 1:34 am
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Would you mind mentioning why you didn't like it for games? It's slightly annoying since some games letter box as they don't support this wide a resolution (and this particular screen has a noticeable amount of backlight bleeding) but for games that do I find it quite nice. As long as your setup doesn't choke rendering the resolution and, for FPS games, there's an FoV slider you can just plain see more; I don't see the down side.
>> No. 26366 Anonymous
21st March 2018
Wednesday 1:35 am
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>>26364
> generally things are happier when I pretend it's two screens and have two windows occupying half of the screen each. Still, I like the setup.
>> No. 26367 Anonymous
21st March 2018
Wednesday 1:42 am
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>>26365

It was a very subjective thing for games - I actually don't like a massive FoV - if you do, it's no problem, but it makes me feel a bit queasy. Having ultrawide just makes everything visually seem a bit 'off'. Perhaps I could have gotten used to it. If you like it you like it, I suppose, but I could never get my head around it, no pun intended.

The only thing we ever found it useful for was showing a big long ableton or Logic project.
>> No. 26416 Anonymous
29th March 2018
Thursday 12:25 am
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>>26367
Thanks, I never knew that too wide an FoV could be an issue (only the inverse).
>> No. 26417 Anonymous
29th March 2018
Thursday 12:29 am
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>>26416

I don't know if I'm just an outlier, but it definitely gives me a sort of motion sickness.

I've hit a point where I'd rather play games on the sofa looking at a nice telly, but that's not exactly the discussion so I'll be quiet.

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>> No. 60361 Are Moaty
28th March 2018
Wednesday 11:05 pm
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Ecuador's government said Wednesday it has cut off WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange's internet connection at the nation's London embassy after his recent activity on social media decrying the arrest of a Catalan separatist politician.

In a statement, officials said Assange's recent posts "put at risk" the good relations Ecuador maintains with nations throughout Europe and had decided as of Tuesday to suspend his internet access "in order to prevent any potential harm."


Shitposting in /iq/ should go down now lads.
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>> No. 60362 Paedofag
28th March 2018
Wednesday 11:58 pm
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Are they trying to smoke him out? I feel miserable for him. I spend most of my life in a shitty little flat and I hate it, but at least I can go look at a river or buy myself some biscuits, all he's got to look forward to is seeing whether his arm or his knob fall off first.
>> No. 60363 YubYub
29th March 2018
Thursday 12:13 am
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I see Alan Duncan has been abusing him for not turning himself in. I mean what are they going to do when he leaves the embassy - prosecute him for skipping bail and then lock him in a small room for a year? He's voluntarily done five of them because he's genuinely fearful of being handed over to the United States and tortured without trial in an offshore camp, so for a minister to call him a worm for that is very cunty indeed.
>> No. 60364 Paedofag
29th March 2018
Thursday 12:13 am
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I imagine they are just fucking fed up of him, and as they say, he can't go talking shit about other countries while in their embassy.

Can't say I have much sympathy for the lad, he put himself in there. Could have all been dealt with a long time ago.

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>> No. 60359 Are Moaty
28th March 2018
Wednesday 10:07 pm
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>> No. 60360 Ambulancelad
28th March 2018
Wednesday 10:25 pm
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>>60359
THIS IS A SHITE THREAD EVEN BY /IQ/ STANDARDS.

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>> No. 59302 Ambulancelad
5th January 2018
Friday 5:53 pm
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BEEP! BEEP!

JOHN'S THA name.

Raping hundreds of women and getting released early from prison's tha game.
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>> No. 59574 Billbob
18th January 2018
Thursday 12:23 am
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>>59570

>but "young women need to be given the confidence to clearly express their boundaries"

There are plenty of who would happily twist that view into victim blaming or trout farming. The expectation for women to exercise agency and be accountable for it seems shookingly absent in modern politics.
>> No. 59576 Anonymous
18th January 2018
Thursday 12:50 pm
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>>59574
Fuck 'em. Or, actually, don't.
>> No. 59898 YubYub
24th February 2018
Saturday 7:59 am
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Abdul's the name

Diddling British slags is the game
>> No. 60355 Billbob
28th March 2018
Wednesday 9:17 pm
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JOHN'S THA NAME

GETTING MY PAROLE QUASHED'S THA GAME.
>> No. 60357 Are Moaty
28th March 2018
Wednesday 9:39 pm
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>>60355
A SURPRISINGLY RIGHT DECISION FOR A CHANGE, AND IT IS EVEN MORE RIGHT THAT THE PROCESS OF PAROLE WILL BECOME OPEN AND TRANSPARENT, AND PERHAPS LED BY JUDGES THAN FUCKING SOCIAL WORKER DO-GOODERS.

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>> ID: 6d5c8d No. 14602 Anonymous
28th March 2018
Wednesday 4:34 pm

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What is. gs approximate monthly bandwidth?
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>> ID: cc0f59 No. 14605 Anonymous
28th March 2018
Wednesday 4:57 pm

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I read somewhere that 4chan does upwards of 2.5 PB a month, so I imagine we're close to that. (cough)
>> ID: 4260c9 No. 14606 Anonymous
28th March 2018
Wednesday 5:02 pm

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>>14605
Weird number. People who run websites for a living hardly ever talk about "monthly bandwidth".

You might say what is the peak/burst bandwidth available at any point, you might talk about the amount of data transferred over a period, but if you're being charged like that over a month, you're either a fucking idiot or you don't know what you're talking about - probably both.

Bandwidth is the maximum width of the pipe at a single point, not the amount of water that flows through it over a period of time. It was very common to hear these terms 10 - 15 years ago, but back then nobody knew what they were talking about and in the days of "the cloud", nobody cares.
>> ID: cc0f59 No. 14607 Anonymous
28th March 2018
Wednesday 5:27 pm

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>>14606

Makes sense. I assume the 4chan thing was, as you say -

>the amount of data transferred over a period

And chosen to sound impressive.

I'm sure even my phone's monthly data usage is 'impressive' on some level.
>> ID: 4260c9 No. 14609 Anonymous
28th March 2018
Wednesday 5:40 pm

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>>14607
>And chosen to sound impressive.

Exactly that. A bit like boasting about the top speed of your car. GREAT, but how often do you ever get to go that fast on UK roads at 5pm?
>> ID: d896de No. 14611 Anonymous
28th March 2018
Wednesday 6:23 pm

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>>14607
So how much 4G do you use then?

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>> No. 416524 Anonymous
28th March 2018
Wednesday 3:16 pm
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Apparently Aki is attending the funeral of Ken Dodd today.
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>> No. 416526 Anonymous
28th March 2018
Wednesday 3:50 pm
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>>416524
Well Doddy did sing that song about him.
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28th March 2018
Wednesday 3:50 pm
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>>416524

I’d be very surprised if he didn’t attend.

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>> No. 60349 Paedofag
28th March 2018
Wednesday 12:02 pm
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>> No. 60350 YubYub
28th March 2018
Wednesday 12:05 pm
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>>60349
>[He] has since resigned.

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>> No. 8283 Anonymous
25th March 2018
Sunday 12:34 am
/spo/8283 Aussie's admit ball tampering
I know that neither of you like Cricket, but I have always loved it. This is an incredible scandal developing.

They were caught red-handed on the big screens at the ground, so it isn't like they could deny it - but WTF - the team management agreed to it at the break?

Just wow.
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>> No. 8288 Anonymous
25th March 2018
Sunday 3:45 am
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I was probably a spur of the moment decision, it wouldn't suprise me if they found the tape and then had the idea. In any case, if they could get away with breaking the law they wouldn't be Australians in the first place.
>> No. 8289 Anonymous
25th March 2018
Sunday 3:53 am
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It's the fact that even the captain of the team was involved - they said it was a "leadership decision". That is so not fucking on it isn't true. They will lose their careers over this.

WTF would the Aussies resort to cheating, they're the best Test team in the world. It doesn't make any sense.
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25th March 2018
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>> No. 8292 Anonymous
27th March 2018
Tuesday 11:41 pm
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27th March 2018
Tuesday 11:42 pm
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>> No. 84038 Anonymous
25th March 2018
Sunday 5:43 pm
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Mail petition: Give the contract for the UK's new blue passport to a British firm

The Government has decided Britain's post-Brexit blue passports should be made by a European company.

Now the Daily Mail and MailOnline are calling on ministers to put British workers first by reversing the decision and giving the contract to a British firm.

Simply enter your name, email address and home town into the form below to add YOUR voice - the total will be regularly refreshed so you can see how you've made a difference.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/passports

I take it you patriots will be signing the petition?
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>> No. 84080 Anonymous
27th March 2018
Tuesday 9:03 pm
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Are Jez isn't the problem lad, if you were paying attention you'd remember how the Blairites spent the majority of last year trying (and failing) to get rid of him. Do you think any of those red Tory neo-liberals are going to admit that a pro-Brexit labour would have been back in power at the last election?
>> No. 84081 Anonymous
27th March 2018
Tuesday 9:15 pm
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>>84080
It's the fucking red Tories, the fucking mainstream media, the fucking Blairites, the fucking Jews. It's everyone's fault but Jeremy Corbyn.
>> No. 84082 Anonymous
27th March 2018
Tuesday 9:32 pm
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>>84081

Yes, those groups do all seem to have it in for the guy, and have been trying to force him out in favour of someone more malleable to their agenda, for some time. No wonder he can't get anything done, right?
>> No. 84083 Anonymous
27th March 2018
Tuesday 9:41 pm
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>>84082
They have been trying to undermine him, but Jeremy Corbyn is also very good at undermining himself.

The two are not mutually exclusive.
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27th March 2018
Tuesday 11:06 pm
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>>84082
I say we just gas the lot of them. Except the Jews, obviously. I mean, we're not Nazis.

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>> No. 34999 Anonymous
4th February 2015
Wednesday 2:04 am
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Nostalgia thread.
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>> No. 40631 Anonymous
22nd March 2018
Thursday 11:40 am
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>> No. 40632 Anonymous
22nd March 2018
Thursday 11:43 am
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>> No. 40633 Anonymous
27th March 2018
Tuesday 5:39 pm
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In a heartbeat.
>> No. 40634 Anonymous
27th March 2018
Tuesday 10:46 pm
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>>40633

Violet Berlin? What happened to her? Oh, she got old.
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27th March 2018
Tuesday 10:52 pm
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>>40634

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHTSGSkl3Zk

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>> No. 22267 Anonymous
25th March 2018
Sunday 11:35 pm
/v/22267 Stormy Daniels on CBS
Any idea how we can watch CBS for free in the UK?

I don't really want to sign up for their service...
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>> No. 22278 Anonymous
26th March 2018
Monday 9:03 pm
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>>22277
1994 called.
>> No. 22279 Anonymous
26th March 2018
Monday 9:11 pm
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>>22278
Did you warn them about ARE DIANA? I bet you bloody forgot, didn't you?
>> No. 22280 Anonymous
26th March 2018
Monday 10:01 pm
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>>22279
I hung up around halfway through the dialup noise.
>> No. 22281 Anonymous
27th March 2018
Tuesday 5:31 pm
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>>22278
Don't prematurely poo-poo it. I get my full download speed and servers are not monitored like BitTorrent is. It's very good for recent stuff.
>> No. 22282 Anonymous
27th March 2018
Tuesday 5:41 pm
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>>22281
So what's the server?

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>> No. 14071 Anonymous
26th November 2017
Sunday 1:32 pm
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>Self-taught rocket scientist plans launch to test flat Earth theory

>‘Mad’ Mike Hughes, 61, plans to reach an altitude of 1,800ft over California in his home-made steam-powered rocket

>Science is littered with tales of visionaries who paid for pioneering research to prove their theories, and this weekend “Mad” Mike Hughes is hoping to join them. He plans to launch a homemade rocket in California as part of a bid to eventually prove that the Earth is flat.

>Hughes has spent $20,000 (£15,000) building the steam-powered rocket in his spare time, and will be livestreaming the launch over the internet. The self-described daredevil says he switched his focus to rockets after twice breaking his back doing stunt jumps in cars.

>“I don’t believe in science,” declared the 61-year-old. “I know about aerodynamics and fluid dynamics and how things move through the air. But that’s not science, that’s just a formula.”



>‘Mad’ Mike
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>> No. 14518 Anonymous
27th March 2018
Tuesday 7:21 am
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One of these days, he'll kill himself with his contraptions.
>> No. 14519 Anonymous
27th March 2018
Tuesday 11:25 am
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>>14517
He's got some fucking balls, I'll give him that.
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27th March 2018
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>>14519

You're confusing courage with idiocy of epic proportions, lad.
>> No. 14521 Anonymous
27th March 2018
Tuesday 3:43 pm
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The 2 are often indistinguishable from the outside particularly to the cowardly.
>> No. 14522 Anonymous
27th March 2018
Tuesday 4:51 pm
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>>14521

Sometimes true; but there is a limit.

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>> No. 5172 Anonymous
19th November 2013
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Euro 2016 qualification is in the bag.
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>> No. 5414 Anonymous
23rd February 2014
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> >>5413 it may work like this.
>>>5413 or this.
>> No. 6288 Anonymous
7th September 2014
Sunday 9:51 pm
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Welp. Although not as humiliating as Portugal losing to the mighty Albania.
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13th July 2016
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Ahahahahaha.
>> No. 8136 Anonymous
4th July 2017
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>>7847
Why is Scottish football so bad?

It's almost beyond a joke now. Rangers getting knocked out of the Europa League by the team who finished fourth in the Luxembourg league.
>> No. 8291 Anonymous
26th March 2018
Monday 10:56 pm
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdaZ4LhFphg

They've beaten Latvia. Euro 2020 is in the bag.

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>> No. 5763 Anonymous
26th March 2018
Monday 8:31 pm
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I've been using this for a couple of years and been largely satisfied by it. Lately it's been giving me a burning sensation in my pits.

Can you recommend me a roll-on, preferably one less likely to cause irritation. Don't care if it is a perspirant either.
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>> No. 5764 Anonymous
26th March 2018
Monday 9:06 pm
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I have sensitive skin and a raft of allergies, but Dove Men+Care roll-on seems fine. Unlike a lot of antiperspirants I've tried, it doesn't leave claggy stains on my undershirts.
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26th March 2018
Monday 9:16 pm
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+1 Dove is good for that.
>> No. 5766 Anonymous
26th March 2018
Monday 9:17 pm
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Mitchum advanced might be worth a try too.
Otherwise dove as the lad above said, and sanex both have versions for sensitive skin.
>> No. 5767 Anonymous
26th March 2018
Monday 10:45 pm
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>>5766
I use Mitchum, it's very good. Never stink.

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