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>> No. 411421 Anonymous
18th June 2017
Sunday 12:05 am
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What's it like living on a council estate?
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>> No. 411424 Anonymous
18th June 2017
Sunday 12:46 am
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>>411421
It isn't like paedophilia.
>> No. 411425 Anonymous
18th June 2017
Sunday 1:14 am
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>>411424

Tough one, from that picture alone. She could be anywhere from 15 to early to mid 20s.
>> No. 411426 Anonymous
18th June 2017
Sunday 1:25 am
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>>411421

Infected by heroin dealing pakzis seeding underage prostitution.
>> No. 411427 Anonymous
18th June 2017
Sunday 1:25 am
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>>411421
It's cosy. I grew up on one. Once you know all the old boys you get your own way most of the time and noone gives you shit.
>> No. 411431 Anonymous
18th June 2017
Sunday 1:47 am
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>>411427

>It's cosy. I grew up on one.

So did one lass I dated for a few weeks during uni. She actually made it to uni, despite her upbringing, as the first person ever in her family but then cocked it up by choosing sociology. Still had a few certain council estate ways about her though, after all those years. Certain ways she would behave when she was upset at something or somebody, and all that kind of thing, if you know what I mean.

As the old saying goes - maybe you can get a person out of a council estate, but won't get the council estate out of a person. We eventually realised we had very little in common, and after a few weeks of peculiarly amazing sex, we said our good-byes. I think she does publicly funded youth projects now, so things kind of worked out for her after all.
>> No. 411433 Anonymous
18th June 2017
Sunday 2:02 am
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>>411427
> I grew up on one.

Which one estatelad

>Once you know all the old boys you get your own way most of the time and noone gives you shit.

If someone spoke like you in the estate that I grew up in your teeth would be missing a beat.
>> No. 411434 Anonymous
18th June 2017
Sunday 2:07 am
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>>411433
We're talking small market town estates where everyone knows fucking everyone, there was lots of old boys they knew their shit.

I was always the posh one, my mum got me out of it when I was around 13. If she didn't I would be a very different person than I am today.
>> No. 411435 Anonymous
18th June 2017
Sunday 2:30 am
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>>411424

What the hell are you on about B1064?

Anyway I grew up on two different ones, the first one was bad, the one I moved to in my late teens had its cunts, but generally was a much better living environment than the first.
>> No. 411436 Anonymous
18th June 2017
Sunday 2:46 am
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>>411435

As out of the blue as his statement was, it is also quite accurate; living on a council estate isn't like carpet-baggerry.
>> No. 411439 Anonymous
18th June 2017
Sunday 3:10 am
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>>411434

Which estate you regressive posh cunt
>> No. 411440 Anonymous
18th June 2017
Sunday 3:12 am
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>>411435

>Anyway I grew up on two different ones, the first one was bad, the one I moved to in my late teens had its cunts, but generally was a much better living environment than the first.

I think it can depend a lot on whether or not a council estate is in a shit part of town to begin with. North London council estates usually tend to be quite bad, whereas if an estate is a bit closer to slightly more prosperous areas, it tends to have a positive effect on the estate itself.

My perception, completely unfounded in any evidence.
>> No. 411441 Anonymous
18th June 2017
Sunday 3:18 am
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>>411433

> If someone spoke like you in the estate that I grew up in your teeth would be missing a beat.

Hearts miss beats, not teeth. Typical council estate scum education. People like you are why we have to hire filthy EU zone migrants to staff Tesco's.
>> No. 411445 Anonymous
18th June 2017
Sunday 3:34 am
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>>411441

Stupid cunt
>> No. 411446 Anonymous
18th June 2017
Sunday 3:59 am
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>>411441

Fuckin dunt hav a clue

http://www.examiner.co.uk/news/west-yorkshire-news/29-men-women-court-after-12886770
>> No. 411447 Anonymous
18th June 2017
Sunday 8:59 am
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All I know is that even though people in general are untrustworthy, people from council estates and other low income backgrounds are especially untrustworthy and should be treated with care.

Remember to like and subscribe for more obvious truths.
>> No. 411453 Anonymous
18th June 2017
Sunday 12:29 pm
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>>411440

The first one, while not strictly a council state might well have been one. It was bang right next to one (literally a 1 minute walk from where I lived), most of the houses were owned by the council and it was basically a few streets of run down terraced housing. My house and the surrounding streets were demolished around 2006. I moved out in 2004, I'm 100% certain we were the last people to live in that house.
The second one was on the south side of the city very close to two upmarket areas, so yeah, maybe your theory is true. It still had it's fair share of scum though and to be honest, I didn't take to the place too well at first. My mother still lives there and I visit her frequently and nowadays I quite like the area. I have even had thoughts about moving back there as I feel very isolated where I live now (a satellite town to the north of the city). A spanner was thrown into the works though, as I was thinking about moving back into my mothers my sister decided to move back from Germany where she had lived fore five years which means no more spare bedroom. Oh well, life goes on....
>> No. 411466 Anonymous
18th June 2017
Sunday 4:08 pm
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Thinking about it the mentality might follow you.
My front room comprises of a 49" TV and a camping chair with a broken arm - I've been here 3 months.
>> No. 411470 Anonymous
18th June 2017
Sunday 4:50 pm
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>>411421
[insert stereotype]
>> No. 411473 Anonymous
18th June 2017
Sunday 5:05 pm
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I live on an ex-council estate. It's ok apart from the teenagers and the occasional screaming row.
>> No. 411543 Anonymous
19th June 2017
Monday 7:37 am
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Shameless got it pretty spot on.
>> No. 411551 Anonymous
19th June 2017
Monday 11:13 am
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>>411543

Only the first two series were good though, it went quickly downhill afterwards.
>> No. 411557 Anonymous
19th June 2017
Monday 12:29 pm
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>>411551
I find the quality degrades the more the McGuires become the focus.
>> No. 411558 Anonymous
19th June 2017
Monday 12:34 pm
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>>411551

And the U.S. version with William H. Macy was shit right out the gate.

That said, in my old neighbourhood where I used to live, there was a local bum/drunk who would spend his days hanging about in front of shops and begging people for money. He was known by everybody and he looked like an identical twin of Frank Gallagher in the U.S. series, so my friends and I started calling him Shameless. "Look, there's Shameless again, bumming a few quid for fags and booze off people like he always does".
>> No. 411611 Anonymous
20th June 2017
Tuesday 7:07 pm
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>>411558

We had one of those but he also enjoyed hurling homophobic and racist abuse at people so they evicted him and moved him to Blackpool. He had a Facebook account with no photo, nothing written on and about 7 friends. Sam Rimmer was one of his friends and has the same surname and an excellent resemblance so I assume they're related. Sam Rimmer got done for raping an 84-year-old.

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/sam-rimmer-hugged-84-year-old-manchester-woman-after-brutal-rape-attempt-1491993

I only mention it because he doesn't look like Frank Gallagher, so that's how he differs from yours.

He used to dress as a pretend workman too with a hi-vis jacket and hard hat he'd obviously stolen. I've always been a bit wary of workmen since and before that they were almost like invisible people to me the way they could go around and do anything and you just assume they're supposed to be there.
>> No. 411627 Anonymous
21st June 2017
Wednesday 3:10 am
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>>411611

Well "my" Shameless lad was wearing the same worn out bordeaux red corduroy blazer every day, summer or winter. I guess even as the neighbourhood bum, he still had some residual pride in himself and wanted to look as smart as you could on one bottle of vodka and a packet of fags a day. He was either not aware, or it didn't matter to him that his blazer had beer stains and cigarette burn marks all over, and really looked like it hadn't been cleaned in ten years. He was behind me in the queue in a supermarket once, buying a tin of Tesco generic beer with a whole handful of change. He smelled utterly unpleasant. But oh well. He never hurt anybody, even when he was noticeably off his tits, he would just doze peacefully on a bench under a tree somewhere. And just maybe deep down under all that dirt, poverty and destitution was once a decent human being who had just completely lost his way in life.
>> No. 411631 Anonymous
21st June 2017
Wednesday 9:14 am
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>>411627

My Shameless lad was behind me in the queue in Sainsbury's once (it's just our nearest supermarket) and was trying to engage his whole queue and the one next along in conversation at once about how he only wanted a meatball butty and you can't argue with 30p for five Basic Razors. Everyone was averting their eyes and forcefully ignoring him and happily he didn't spot me.
>> No. 411638 Anonymous
21st June 2017
Wednesday 12:57 pm
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>>411631

My Shameless lad would usually just mumble unintelligible stuff to himself. Or he would indeed stop you in the street and ask if you had a few pence for him. But also in a very mumbly kind of way.

The most peculiar thing about him was his voice. He wasn't really all that old, maybe not even 35. But decades of booze and fags had given him a gravelled voice that made him sound well into his 60s. In a way, he sounded worse than my granddad who lived to be 75.
>> No. 411684 Anonymous
23rd June 2017
Friday 1:08 pm
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The biggest thing you learn coming from that sort of background is how to carry yourself in order to avoid looking like a target. It's why I've never bought into the idea of "victim blaming", because it's true in my experience. The body language you use and the attitude you adopt towards your surroundings does far more to protect you than any form of actual toughness. Doesn't matter how scrawny you are or if you're rippling with muscles. It's just knowing what will make you a target.

You can tell people who haven't had such an upbringing because they are the ones shit scared of walking through a place like Eastmoor on an evening. Really even the worst scallies on the place will only start on you if you look like an obvious outsider, a mewling little soft, posh twat begging for abuse.

Simply carrying yourself as if you're not scared of them is the most important lesson a rough upbringing teaches you. And there's a lot of middle class lads on here who will give me grief over this post because they can't and never will possibly understand.
>> No. 411685 Anonymous
23rd June 2017
Friday 1:25 pm
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>>411684

This is true and goes int other areas of life too. Attitude has saved saved my life in third world shitholes more often than any amount of drilling and weapons.

t. Middle class lad.
>> No. 411693 Anonymous
23rd June 2017
Friday 7:17 pm
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>>411684
>>411685
So what is this "carry yourself" thing? Explain in a logical manner than can be applied please.
>> No. 411701 Anonymous
23rd June 2017
Friday 9:17 pm
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>>411693
Walk tall, brotha.
>> No. 411702 Anonymous
23rd June 2017
Friday 9:25 pm
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>>411701
That's kind of difficult for 5' 7'' short bloke.
>> No. 411703 Anonymous
23rd June 2017
Friday 9:30 pm
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>>411702
You're only an inch shorter than Charlie Bronson. You think he'd have a problem?
>> No. 411708 Anonymous
23rd June 2017
Friday 9:55 pm
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>>411703
Not an inch. He towers over me by three inches.
>> No. 411711 Anonymous
23rd June 2017
Friday 10:45 pm
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>>411708

Manny Pacquiao is only five foot five. That mad little bastard could knock out a pillarbox.
>> No. 411712 Anonymous
23rd June 2017
Friday 10:52 pm
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>>411684

>The body language you use and the attitude you adopt towards your surroundings does far more to protect you than any form of actual toughness. Doesn't matter how scrawny you are or if you're rippling with muscles. It's just knowing what will make you a target.

By the same token, that kind of "bad boy from the hood" posture, attitude and self-projection will make you stick out like a sore thumb in higher circles, upper middle class and beyond, where you don't usually have to worry about getting into a serious physical fight in the first place, let alone at night in a bad part of town.

People from lower classes often complain that it feels to them like there is a secret code among those who came from better upbringings, which in one way or another will keep lower class people from moving up the social ladder and truly becoming "one of them", despite their own best efforts. I would go as far as saying that probably 40 to 60 percent of it is simply posture, projection and mannerisms. Even if somebody masks it very successfully, there will always be dead giveaways about their upbringing the more time you will spend talking to them. The way they will behave in conversation with somebody, their choice of words, their accent, even their sense of humour. You name it.

In short, your council estate antics may have served you well growing up on an actual council estate. But if you want to better yourself and leave that world behind, then you are going to have to drop all of it. Unfortunately, that's much easier said than done, which is why, as I said, you usually can't fake it for long.
>> No. 411718 Anonymous
24th June 2017
Saturday 4:41 am
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>>411685

> Attitude has saved saved my life in third world shitholes more often than any amount of drilling and weapons.

Would you care to mention specific examples?
>> No. 411720 Anonymous
24th June 2017
Saturday 8:14 am
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>>411712

I have personally experienced this, and it's something I struggled with at university quite a lot. I've no doubt that the jump from sixth form or college to the next level is a culture shock for many people, but for me I was learning to soften my expression, dull my accent, change my posture to nonthreatening.
>> No. 411722 Anonymous
24th June 2017
Saturday 11:44 am
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>>411720

To a great extent, that's how universities powered social mobility in the '60s and '70s - working class kids got a scholarship, spent three years mingling with a load of posh kids and learned to pass themselves off as middle class. I think that the upper middle class learned to be more subtle about their signalling, hence the casualness of Blair and "call me Dave" Cameron. The class signifiers are still there, they're just buried under unbuttoned collars and chillaxing.
>> No. 411725 Anonymous
24th June 2017
Saturday 12:46 pm
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>>411722

>The class signifiers are still there, they're just buried under unbuttoned collars and chillaxing.

That, and because majorities are tight nowadays, I think politicians can ill afford being either distinctly upper class or distinctly working class, with everything that used to come with that. You can't depend on your peers securing your power anymore through enough of their votes on Election Day. Because voters' preferences for parties aren't carved in stone anymore either. Especially since the days of Blair and New Labour, who were really less stuffy Conservatives.

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