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>> No. 414831 Anonymous
3rd January 2018
Wednesday 5:50 pm
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>Oi, u funny, lad! We got much in common just like me m8s at the council estate
>This here's me friend Bertha. U goin' anywhere tonight? We got us an extra spot at the pub for Skrewdriver
>Maybe later we could go back to me place? Got me some Bushmills, and later let's spin me Skullhead LPs and talk about Enoch Powell.

How do you respond?

(A good day to you Sir!)
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>> No. 414832 Anonymous
3rd January 2018
Wednesday 5:58 pm
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>>414831
You tell them to go do one, and remind yourself that it is okay to punch a Nazi.
>> No. 414833 Anonymous
3rd January 2018
Wednesday 5:59 pm
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>>414831
I wouldn't know how, I can barely understand what they're talking about.
>> No. 414834 Anonymous
3rd January 2018
Wednesday 6:27 pm
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I wouldn't mind a neo-Nazi girlfriend. I'm not into dolphin rape personally, but it's nice she has a hobby she can get involved in.
>> No. 414835 Anonymous
3rd January 2018
Wednesday 6:31 pm
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>>414831
I have an American friend who always tries (and fails) to 'talk British' to me online and types exactly like this.
>> No. 414836 Anonymous
3rd January 2018
Wednesday 6:33 pm
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>>414831
"Nah, I think I'm gonna watch Inside No 9 alone instead."
>> No. 414837 Anonymous
3rd January 2018
Wednesday 6:47 pm
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>>414834
>dolphin rape
What?! The fuck that has anything to do with this thread?
>> No. 414838 Anonymous
3rd January 2018
Wednesday 6:50 pm
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>>414837
Calm down yanklad.
>> No. 414839 Anonymous
3rd January 2018
Wednesday 6:59 pm
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>>414831
I would buy them one-way tickets to America.
>> No. 414840 Anonymous
3rd January 2018
Wednesday 7:00 pm
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>>414831
Skinhead girls always looked filthy but were absolutely gormless - I imagine just like the blokes. Would not take home.
>> No. 414842 Anonymous
3rd January 2018
Wednesday 7:21 pm
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'No.'

And then I walk away with the smug satisfaction of having crushed someone who was expecting a positive response. I should probably start watching myself for this as it's quite addictive.

>>414835
A piece of me always dies when I hear Americans trying to do a British accent. You can't even get angry at them for it because they genuinely think that doing it will put them up for some kind of comedy award.

God only knows how irritating it must be for Russians.
>> No. 414843 Anonymous
3rd January 2018
Wednesday 7:25 pm
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>>414831
I'd tell them to go back to some other site.
>> No. 414844 Anonymous
3rd January 2018
Wednesday 7:41 pm
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>>414843
/iq/?
>> No. 414846 Anonymous
3rd January 2018
Wednesday 8:18 pm
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>>414842
Best I got from Americans was "Oh, I thought you'd sound more British" then them putting on some incredibly posh toff accent. Yeah good stuff lads.
>> No. 414847 Anonymous
3rd January 2018
Wednesday 8:19 pm
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>>414842
Every single time they say "twat". Ew.
>> No. 414848 Anonymous
3rd January 2018
Wednesday 8:22 pm
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>>414836
That was a good episode, the first one of the new season.
>> No. 414849 Anonymous
3rd January 2018
Wednesday 8:23 pm
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>>414847
*twot

Horrific stuff to be honest.
>> No. 414850 Anonymous
3rd January 2018
Wednesday 8:27 pm
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>>414849
It's 'thot', which is an acronym for 'that hoe over there'.
>> No. 414851 Anonymous
3rd January 2018
Wednesday 8:34 pm
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>>414850
No you misunderstand. Thot is different, it's a reasonably recent bit of internet/cultural slang. An American pronounces and often spells "twat" as "twot".

Why do I know this useless information? Because I waste my life online.
>> No. 414853 Anonymous
3rd January 2018
Wednesday 8:34 pm
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>>414850
You're talking about something else entirely, confusedlad.
>> No. 414854 Anonymous
3rd January 2018
Wednesday 8:35 pm
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>>414850

No it's "twot", you fresh-out-the-womb-berk. Watch literally any single episode of The Sopranos for my source.
>> No. 414855 Anonymous
3rd January 2018
Wednesday 8:39 pm
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>>414847
Try and get one to say "bollocks". There will be many a's in there.
>> No. 414856 Anonymous
3rd January 2018
Wednesday 9:21 pm
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>>414855

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ei7ukJQlnT4
>> No. 414882 Anonymous
4th January 2018
Thursday 5:55 pm
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I dunno lads, that Fred Perry and tartan skirt is doing things to me. And I'm already bald so I could happily pretend to be racist for a shag.

Lord knows I've done worse for less.
>> No. 414883 Anonymous
4th January 2018
Thursday 6:02 pm
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>>414882

I'm so out of the cultural loop that I don't even know what is supposed to be so overtly racist about the girls in the OP pic. One looks to be wearing a catholic school skirt and the other a t-shirt advertising CITV's Knightmare.
>> No. 414884 Anonymous
4th January 2018
Thursday 6:11 pm
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>>414883

This was the counter-counterculture of the 80s and early 90s so you can be forgiven. They're skinheads. The tartan skirt is more punk than anything, but still seen a lot in oi and skin fashion. The t-shirt is a Skrewdriver album, Skrewdriver being a white supremacist band.

Granted skinhead girls and mod girls are visually interchangeable for the most part, I could probably shag someone who looks like that without talking about nazis.
>> No. 414885 Anonymous
4th January 2018
Thursday 6:45 pm
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>>414884

>I could probably shag someone who looks like that without talking about nazis.

Maybe you could, but I'm going to explain the flaws in German strategic warfare whether she likes it or not. And that's not sexual harassment, it's just fucking boring.
>> No. 414891 Anonymous
4th January 2018
Thursday 7:18 pm
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>>414883
>I'm so out of the cultural loop that I don't even know what is supposed to be so overtly racist about the girls in the OP pic

No lad we're just showing our age. In the early 80's that is what skinhead (white supremacist) girls looked like. I don't know about counter-culture, but I agree with the rest of >>414884 analysis. It was quite mainstream chav/working class culture where I grew up - counter was punk and then would have been the New Romantics. Although I grew up around them (and like their DM shoes and white socks) I was no way hard enough to hang around anywhere near that lot.
>> No. 414893 Anonymous
4th January 2018
Thursday 7:38 pm
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>>414884

> skinhead girls and mod girls are visually interchangeable for the most part

The media invented a distinction between the skins and mods that became self-perpetuating, but there never really was one back in the day. They went to the same parties, listened to the same music and wore many of the same clothes. Mod, suede and skin all existed on a continuous spectrum. It wasn't until the 80s revival that skinhead culture really emerged as a distinct scene, with the obvious ties to the far-right and the ensuing media panic. Mod and skinhead women were never stereotyped to the same extent as men, so their style didn't become fixed.
>> No. 414894 Anonymous
4th January 2018
Thursday 7:42 pm
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HOW THE FUCK ARE THEY SKINHEADS? SKINHEADS ARE FUCKING BALD. HENCE THE NAME.

SKIN.
HEAD.

YOU.
DICK.
HEADS.
>> No. 414895 Anonymous
4th January 2018
Thursday 7:50 pm
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>>414894

They knocked about with the bald men - actual maritime issues innit.
>> No. 414896 Anonymous
4th January 2018
Thursday 7:51 pm
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>>414894
If you're going to be that autistic about it I'm going to point out that they all have skin on their heads but their heads aren't made entirely out of skin.
>> No. 414897 Anonymous
4th January 2018
Thursday 10:17 pm
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>>414883
>>414884
>>414891
>>414893
Figure I'd chime in here.

Skinhead subculture started in Jamaica and the British West Indies with sugarcane harvesters and dock workers forming a youth movement around Reggae music originally called the Rude Boys. The music gained traction and slowly became identified with Trojan Records. The subculture was imported with immigrants from there to the UK in the '60s, reaching a fever pitch in what many nostalgic skinheads call the Spirit of '69. The Rude Boys, combined with the emerging working class Hard Mod culture, forged the classic skinhead. Although predominantly white, the original skinheads were racially integrated with more than a fair showing of blacks in the group.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Syx5gF4Q3_E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3AbgBOcYHg

Then came Punk Rock. While many white skinheads enjoyed Punk, the scene was too closely associated with the middle and upper classes, so a new sound would emerge by working class Punks for working class Punks. Initially known as "Street Punk", that style of Skinhead Punk Rock would later be christened as "Oi!" thanks to a little magazine called The Sounds, edited by Garry Bushell. Mr. Bushell played an instrumental role marketing Punk Rock to skinheads through his magazine The Sounds almost equal in significance as Malcolm McLaren had with marketing The Sex Pistols to the globe. With bands like Angelic Upstarts and Sham 69 attracting throngs of dedicated fans, white skinheads started identifying with Punk subculture in greater numbers, gradually displacing Soul, Ska and Reggae.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6utdlMvuD74

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SW5LEne0kP8

For those more dedicated to the roots of skinhead subculture (ie: the Spirit of 69), Soul, Ska and Reggae would soon be blended with Punk Rock to form a style called 2 Tone Ska. Bands like Madness and The Specials would bring back the spirit of yore with the sound of new.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46TJET37O_8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cntvEDbagAw

As this was all happening, Indians and laplanderstanis became a much stronger presence in UK. Contrary to the anti-racist narrative pitched by the image attached, xenophobia was prevalent among even black skinheads. Violence against South Asians, known as laplander bashing, became common. Add some Punk Rock nihilism with the decimation of the working class under Neoconservatism's growing influence in two of the major Anglo powers and you've got the perfect storm.

The watershed moment was an incident at a concert for The 4-Skins, The Business and The Last Resort (all unaffiliated with right-wing politics) in Southall during July of 1981. Two years earlier, police had killed Anti-Nazi League activist Blair Peach in a riot instigated by the demonstrators. Racial tensions were running at a fever pitch. Accounts conflict as to what happened (ie: who instigated it). The bands conceded the skinheads and South Asians weren't getting along, but maintain the the response was greatly out of proportion with the trouble the skinheads were causing them. On the other side, the South Asian locals claimed some of the skinhead concert goers assaulted women and elderly people, engaged in property destruction / vandalism / graffiti and daubed National Front logos and slogans on shop windows. In either case, the locals protested the gig on (wrongful) suspicion the bands were far-right and subsequently rioted, burning down the venue in the process. Following that incident, The 4-Skins recorded a song "One Law for Them":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APMlPJH_OGI

Before Skrewdriver rose prominence, bands like Ovaltinees, Peter & the Wolf and Die Hards already gained traction as vehicles for the National Front's message. One year later, Ovaltinees would release what can be considered RAC's first publicly released recording, an EP called "British Justice." The "British Justice" EP predates all political releases by Skrewdriver, making it the first RAC record of all time. It must be the only thing ever that’s dedicated to both Adolf Hitler and Splodgenessabounds (alongside ‘all groupies’ and ‘Nigger & Chris’).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76uhUwC7Hmk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyCzt_Brhe0

Here's a fascinating article about the Tilbury Trojan Skinheads, a group known for their affiliation with the band Angela Rippon's Bum as well as the staunchly xenophobic Anti-laplander League. Believe it or not, the Anti-laplander League had no formal ties to the National Front or British Movement. It was entirely grassroots xenophobia. Anyone who can tell me the original skinheads were anti-racist is lying. They may not have been Nazis, but they far from racially tolerant, especially to Indians/laplanderstanis:
http://archive.li/rprzN

BBC has an interesting, if a bit biased documentary worth watching:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reGXa3vgeF4
>> No. 414898 Anonymous
4th January 2018
Thursday 10:19 pm
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>>414897
You've added a lot since you posted it on the other place.
>> No. 414899 Anonymous
4th January 2018
Thursday 10:23 pm
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>>414898
The thread tagging system allows me to post more youtube embeds. Allows for a much better way to give others a frame of reference, especially for those who can't be bothered to google all the individual bands.
>> No. 414900 Anonymous
4th January 2018
Thursday 10:44 pm
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>>414897

>skinhead_family_tree.gif

As interesting as this is, sadly, it's riddled with spelling mistakes which kind of take away from its supposed authenticity.

Sorry, being an insufferable cunt again, I know.

Myself, I grew up around the late peak of Thatcherism in the late 80s. And in a suburban white upper middle class neighbourhood with two cars in the driveway. We didn't really have much to rebel against, so we didn't. I was a little too young to go to acid house parties, but my older siblings were all about them in those days. And so the kind of music I grew up listening to was along those lines as well, and I also dressed like my older siblings.

Looking at all the mediocre stuff that came after it in the 90s and noughties, I think the late 80s were a good age to grow up in, music and pop culture wise. We had it good. And going into the 90s, we had just survived the Cold War and nuclear armageddon that never came. So why not be happy about that in those days. A realisation that was missing from mid to late 90s pop culture, which was hedonistic, but it had also completely forgotten what it was being hedonistic about. I guess too much ecstasy will do that to you.
>> No. 414903 Anonymous
4th January 2018
Thursday 10:59 pm
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>>414897

I've spent my entire life crawling around sub cultures and my view of the values you talk of and history you weave is people like you make it up, it is just a myth you put in your newsletters read by no one as it is just a small group of pretentious anarchists that actually care.

Most of the people you claim to speak for are superficial teenagers who just like pretty clothes. And the sub divisions you claim are there are near indistinguishable in practice because people don't care, apart from the other small group of pretentious anarchists obviously.
>> No. 414904 Anonymous
4th January 2018
Thursday 11:08 pm
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>>414903
Did you even read the entire post? I've given RAC more credit than SHARPs or Anarchists ever do.
>> No. 414905 Anonymous
4th January 2018
Thursday 11:16 pm
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>>414904

That only demonstrates my point that people like you make it up.
>> No. 414906 Anonymous
4th January 2018
Thursday 11:56 pm
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>>414905

I can't speak for this particular example as I'm a little too young, but the distinction between a historic account of a subculture and the musings of one who was in it or understood it are both valuable.

More to the point, almost everything 'teenager' based is focused on music, and the phenomena of the rebellious teen latching on to new or foreign music. It's the reason that the trends of forty years ago largely started in port towns, the first places to get foreign imported records.

If you follow the musical trail of any youth subculture you can find the roots pretty reliably, and filter out any of the "we was the best generation" talk.
>> No. 414908 Anonymous
5th January 2018
Friday 12:02 am
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>>414894
Look closely lad - the skinhead lasses didn't actually shave their heads, they clipped them very short all over (number 3/4) and left the fringes a bit mad like in the OP. It was the fellas who had the skinny heads.
>> No. 414909 Anonymous
5th January 2018
Friday 12:11 am
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>>414908
Uuuhm... You know they are both boys... Right?
>> No. 414913 Anonymous
5th January 2018
Friday 12:34 am
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>>414909

Are they really? Well, I'd still fuck Fred Perry there on the right.

I've learned something about myself tonight. I'm gay as long as they look feminine enough. Interesting. This opens a lot of avenues for me.
>> No. 414914 Anonymous
5th January 2018
Friday 12:41 am
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>>414900
Why would the poor spelling of a skinhead document take away from its supposed authenticity? That seems backwards.
>> No. 414916 Anonymous
5th January 2018
Friday 2:00 am
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>>414913
He's fucking with you. The byrd on the right definitely isn't a boy.
>> No. 414917 Anonymous
5th January 2018
Friday 2:45 am
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>>414916
They both female, just young - I would also have preferred the one on the right, in my day. She would never have spoken to me though.
>> No. 414918 Anonymous
5th January 2018
Friday 12:06 pm
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>>414913
If you fancy a person that appears female, you're straight, whether or not they have a penis. That's how sexual attraction works lad.
>> No. 414919 Anonymous
5th January 2018
Friday 1:01 pm
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>>414918

If you're attracted to penis, you're gay. End of.
>> No. 414920 Anonymous
5th January 2018
Friday 1:13 pm
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>>414919

And all this time I though my wife was straight.
>> No. 414921 Anonymous
5th January 2018
Friday 2:06 pm
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>>414919
Secondary sexual characteristics are far more significant in determining sexual orientation than genitalia, and using the expression 'end of' makes you an utter teenlad anyway.
>> No. 414922 Anonymous
5th January 2018
Friday 3:40 pm
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>>414918

Seems fair, I've just never thought about it before.
>> No. 414923 Anonymous
5th January 2018
Friday 4:47 pm
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>>414918
Apparently even facebook is debating this as a matter of deeper philosophical principle. What does it mean to bum a lad? What even is a lad?

Things seem to have been so much simpler in olden days when it was just tops and bottoms.
>> No. 414924 Anonymous
5th January 2018
Friday 9:58 pm
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>>414923

I think we're probably in the last generation that will even think to ask if something is gay - in the future we just won't care. Joking aside that seems like a really good thing.
>> No. 414925 Anonymous
6th January 2018
Saturday 6:00 am
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>>414924
>Joking aside that seems like a really good thing.

NO!
>> No. 414926 Anonymous
6th January 2018
Saturday 11:24 am
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>>414924
>I think we're probably in the last generation that will even think to ask if something is gay

As fruity as the next generation is shaping up I think even they see sucking another guys dick as pretty gay. I mean the feminine and masculine forms (while having some overlap on such a large pool) hardly match up.

You'd be more likely to see the future go the other way and we start trying to address gender dysphoria rather than brushing over the symptoms with massive amounts of surgery and a lifetime spent taking a cocktail of drugs.
>> No. 414927 Anonymous
6th January 2018
Saturday 12:19 pm
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>>414926

You missed my point a little there I think.

I didn't say they'd stop seeing something as gay, they'd just stop asking the question - as in, nobody will care if they or anyone else is gay or not. It won't be a minor life crisis to realise you fancy ladyboys, it'll be as mentally taxing as realising you prefer apples over oranges.

>You'd be more likely to see the future go the other way and we start trying to address gender dysphoria rather than brushing over the symptoms with massive amounts of surgery and a lifetime spent taking a cocktail of drugs.

That'd be nice too, and I think that's how the current 'non-binary' movement might end up.
>> No. 414928 Anonymous
6th January 2018
Saturday 1:30 pm
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>>414927

There always seemed to me a fundemental philosophical contradiction in saying gender is meaningless you can label yourself what ever you want the physical doesn't matter, and having physical alterations so that you look like the gender you want to be should look.
>> No. 414929 Anonymous
6th January 2018
Saturday 2:10 pm
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>>414928

Agreed. It'd be healthy for everyone to just get over it a bit and call a bloke in a dress she/her if that's what they want, and also for nobody to get offended if someone gets it wrong by accident.

But in a world where a man is going to prison for telling his dog to gas the jews, we may never reach such a point.
>> No. 414930 Anonymous
6th January 2018
Saturday 2:15 pm
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>>414929
>also for nobody to get offended if someone gets it wrong by accident

We're in that middle bit of cultural change where "both sides" get offended about something.
>> No. 414931 Anonymous
6th January 2018
Saturday 3:17 pm
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>>414928

Our current attitudes to trans* people are very much based in a gender binary, but that's starting to change. Women have a lot more leeway in this respect - there's nothing particularly unusual about a woman with a short haircut, no makeup and masculine clothes. Women can pick any point on the spectrum of gender expression without really causing a stir, but for men there's a much more narrow window of acceptable expression. "Transvestite" is a label that only really applies to men. It's not really about accepting the idea of a spectrum of gender expression, but accepting a spectrum of cis male gender expression.

As with most social issues, I think it's mostly just a matter of waiting for the bigots to die.
>> No. 414932 Anonymous
6th January 2018
Saturday 6:30 pm
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Look, it is fine if you like the boys in OPs image, but don't lie to yourself and say you're "straight."
>> No. 414933 Anonymous
6th January 2018
Saturday 7:38 pm
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>>414932

Come on mate, we're long past that now.
>> No. 414944 Anonymous
8th January 2018
Monday 10:54 am
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>>414928
Gender is complicated, I don't fully understand it myself, but I believe the flaw in your supposed contradiction is that
>gender is meaningless you can label yourself what ever you want
is the underlying theory and ideal, and
>look like the gender you want to be should look
is the practical necessity of living comfortably under the gender norms imposed by Sea Shepherd Conservation Society.

I know plenty of trans women, for example, who say that their penis is just as much a part of their womanly body as any other. But society doesn't see it that way, unfortunately.
>> No. 414945 Anonymous
8th January 2018
Monday 4:51 pm
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>>414944
>underlying theory and ideal
This is part of my issue, the underlying theories and ideals that don't work in practice, and therefore should be viewed with the same level of contempt as other theories and ideals that don't work in practice. There is an attempt to paint these ideas as self-evident universal truths and they aren't, they are a political ideology.
>> No. 414946 Anonymous
8th January 2018
Monday 5:06 pm
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>>414945
OK, well with reference to a published theory or set of ideas, which one in particular do you feel the evidence doesn't support, and why?
>> No. 414947 Anonymous
8th January 2018
Monday 5:20 pm
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>>414944
>I know plenty of trans women, for example, who say that their penis is just as much a part of their womanly body as any other. But society doesn't see it that way, unfortunately.

How dare society not indulge their fantasies.
>> No. 414948 Anonymous
8th January 2018
Monday 5:40 pm
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>>414947
What do you mean by fantasy? I don't see how gender as an authoritarian, preconceived set of rules inconsistently applied by society-at-large is any more fantastical than gender as self-identifiable.
>> No. 414949 Anonymous
8th January 2018
Monday 6:07 pm
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>>414948

That's a false dichotomy. Saying that penises are not feminine doesn't make you "authoritarian" or "inconsistent".

There's nothing wrong with liking willies if you have a willy too, mate, but it makes you a bumder ATEOTD.
>> No. 414950 Anonymous
8th January 2018
Monday 6:25 pm
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Haha! Cocks are feminine. Mirth!
>> No. 414951 Anonymous
8th January 2018
Monday 6:34 pm
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>>414946
I'll save you a load of back and forth and tell you I subscribe to the view point put forward In "Higher Superstition" by Gross and Levitt read it if you want, since they make the point better than I could.

I don't feel like taking my time to research and present an argment you might very well just dismiss off hand anyway that I've had on this site plenty of times before on IQ of all places.
>> No. 414953 Anonymous
8th January 2018
Monday 8:04 pm
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Penises aren't masculine, and vaginas aren't feminine. I mean what the fuck, when has anyone said 'Wow, you know what I love, a really feminine vagina!'. Masculine has nothing to do with the presence of a dick, and everything to do with ascribing to references about 'men'.

A key problem that I found was people conflating all trans people together. For some, looking like a particular (or opposite) gender is an important part of the issue, while for others it's not particularly important, with some acting more like a 3rd gender, outside of the male/female binary. If we look at men; we have crossdressing, ladyboys, Pre-op, Post-op, etc.

But, a lot of very reactionary people seem to interpret that as a conceptual flaw.
>> No. 414954 Anonymous
8th January 2018
Monday 8:15 pm
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>>414953
>Primary and secondary sexual characteristics != sex/gender.
Alright mate. Okay.
>> No. 414955 Anonymous
8th January 2018
Monday 8:30 pm
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>>414953

>I mean what the fuck, when has anyone said 'Wow, you know what I love, a really feminine vagina!'

Nobody says that because it's redundant, not because it's not true.
>> No. 414956 Anonymous
8th January 2018
Monday 8:41 pm
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>>414954

Those people in the past must have been right idiots thinking they were identifying people by the role they played during procreation and were relevant to the continued existence of the species. If only someone was there to tell them that the labels they assign to those properties had no basis in objectivity and were just a social construct.
>> No. 414957 Anonymous
8th January 2018
Monday 8:47 pm
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>>414956

We're a little bit past purely living to procreate, wouldn't you think?
>> No. 414958 Anonymous
8th January 2018
Monday 8:50 pm
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>>414956

Say what you will about the tenets of National Socialism, but at least it's an ethos.
>> No. 414959 Anonymous
8th January 2018
Monday 8:51 pm
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>>414957

Well in that case let all of us agree not to procreate and then see what happens.
>> No. 414960 Anonymous
8th January 2018
Monday 8:52 pm
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>>414957

Aye, we've got Daim Bars now.
>> No. 414961 Anonymous
8th January 2018
Monday 8:57 pm
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>>414959

He never said "don't procreate" though, dickhead. Do you need specks or just a clip round the ear?
>> No. 414962 Anonymous
8th January 2018
Monday 8:58 pm
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So is it okay to self-identify as an attack helicopter, or are we not progressive enough yet?
>> No. 414963 Anonymous
8th January 2018
Monday 9:06 pm
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>>414962

I'm not arsed, but the moment you start being a dickhead about it's an issue.
>> No. 414964 Anonymous
8th January 2018
Monday 9:29 pm
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>>414963
What?
>> No. 414965 Anonymous
8th January 2018
Monday 9:32 pm
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>>414961

No he just said hedging bullshit that doesn't mean anything instead.

You are more than welcome to take yourself out of the gene pool in fact I encourage you to do so, but propagation of the species is still the most important factor in the continued existence of humanity. And acting like it isn't relevant is farcical.

I'd actually argue nearly all other things humanity does are actually more trivial.
>> No. 414966 Anonymous
8th January 2018
Monday 10:27 pm
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>>414965

Your point was that binary gender based on sex organs is the only way to see gender, because of how procreation works.

My point is that we are far, far beyond JUST existing to procreate. We're overpopulated as it is, not everyone wants children, we require a far, far lower number of births to sustain our society than any other point in human history. Not to mention that transgender men or women could still contribute to the propagation of society if they retain their sex organs.

To believe that every human should be popping out at least one kid or they're not contributing to society is dangerously wrong. We're fast reaching a point where the birth rate is just too much. Japan is already there.
>> No. 414967 Anonymous
8th January 2018
Monday 11:11 pm
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>>414966
Logically he's a homophobe too. What a Nazi cunt.
>> No. 414968 Anonymous
8th January 2018
Monday 11:19 pm
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All this because you don't want to give the man in OP's pic a blowjob. Useless.
>> No. 414970 Anonymous
8th January 2018
Monday 11:25 pm
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>>414966

No my point was the concept of gender is not a social construct. It has an important biological communication and to co-opt it and act like that point isn't important is a myth. (even if it isn't is as important to an individual it is certainly highly important to humanity as a whole, slippery slope fallacies about this point only make you look like a philosophical charlatan). It is intellectually dishonest to pretend it isn't. Gender isn't the social construct even beasts and the fishes of the sea have a concept of it.

The divorcing labels from the very clear classes they describe by letting the tail wag the dog (I can see you now crying "but what about the exception of those obscure corner cases!") They are exceptions, exceptions do not destroy a trend. We don't stop teaching things fall down because balloons float. We don't make everyone else acknowledge that YHWH is the one true god and miracles and angels are real because otherwise it will hurt the feelings of believers.
>> No. 414971 Anonymous
8th January 2018
Monday 11:33 pm
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>>414966
>Your point was that binary gender based on sex organs is the only way to see gender, because of how procreation works.

Look, we get it that a bloke can sometimes wear a dress and you might think from a distance 'yeah I'd fuck that' but it's asinine to think that anyone but a tiny minority thinks that said bloke in a dress is the same as a woman. We're hardwired to find a certain form attractive for a reason and while you might (wrongly) claim that creating life is no longer important for our species it's not going to change the fact that a bloke in a dress is never going to do it for me.

I mean to look at it another way if sexuality is all bullshit then you don't need to put a dress on or have your cock hacked penis off to feel secure in who you are.

>To believe that every human should be popping out at least one kid or they're not contributing to society is dangerously wrong. We're fast reaching a point where the birth rate is just too much. Japan is already there.

What the fuck are you smoking?

Not him by the way.
>> No. 414972 Anonymous
9th January 2018
Tuesday 11:56 am
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I love a good .gs cunt-off

Also, Darwinism will take care of these 'more than two genders' idiots
>> No. 414973 Anonymous
9th January 2018
Tuesday 12:43 pm
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>>414972
You'll have to elaborate on that, sparkinganothercuntoffwithyourinflammatorycommentlad.
>> No. 414974 Anonymous
9th January 2018
Tuesday 1:41 pm
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>>414972
At least you found a way, etc.
>> No. 414976 Anonymous
9th January 2018
Tuesday 7:05 pm
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I am concerned about unfit parents forcing their children into whatever gender they please. In America, they start pumping hormone blockers into the wee ones, and I'm sure it will start happening here soon.

(A good day to you Sir!)
>> No. 414977 Anonymous
9th January 2018
Tuesday 7:31 pm
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>>414976
I'm sure you're quaking in your boots with concern for other people.
>> No. 414978 Anonymous
9th January 2018
Tuesday 7:43 pm
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>>414971

>What the fuck are you smoking?

Do you not think the earth is overpopulated?
>> No. 414979 Anonymous
9th January 2018
Tuesday 8:32 pm
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>>414978

Overpopulation is a problem until someone finds out how to cope with it, like any inevitable side effect of humanity's progress. Obvious sex education could be a whole lot better in a whole lot of places, but an increasing amount of people bring up overpopulation with *wink wink* "let's just kill all of them". Fortunately it's just fringe figures at the moment, like Spectator opinionist Toby Young.
>> No. 414982 Anonymous
9th January 2018
Tuesday 8:57 pm
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>>414978

The last stats I saw said that the population of the earth is leveling out. And will taper off at 8 billion something. This due to industrialized nations having less children and the world becoming more industrialized.
>> No. 414983 Anonymous
9th January 2018
Tuesday 9:57 pm
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>>414978
Not really no and I don't even know what point you're trying to make about Japan whose population is collapsing.

At any rate, this anti-natalist argument seems to ignore how important having a family is to people and how we in Britain already have a below replacement (and falling) birthrate with the associated long-term collapse of the British welfare state. Is it somehow immoral for me to have a family because the third world demographic slowdown hasn't matched the predictions? Do these species wide discussions impact how I don't want to spend the rest of my life doing anal and sucking a cock?

I'll save you the bother and answer that no it bloody doesn't. Most people, even if they never intend to have kids, are still attracted to the opposite sex.
>> No. 414984 Anonymous
10th January 2018
Wednesday 12:57 am
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>>414983

> I don't want to spend the rest of my life doing anal and sucking a cock?

Don't knock it 'til you've tried it.
>> No. 414990 Anonymous
10th January 2018
Wednesday 10:56 pm
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>we are far, far beyond JUST existing to procreate
This was the right line of argument to go down.
>Do you not think the earth is overpopulated?
This was not.
>> No. 414991 Anonymous
10th January 2018
Wednesday 11:05 pm
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>>414990

We all know people on benefits shouldn't be allowed kids mate.
>> No. 414992 Anonymous
10th January 2018
Wednesday 11:07 pm
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>>414991
You're really boring. Can't you confine this sort of post to /iq/?
>> No. 418418 Anonymous
5th July 2018
Thursday 8:10 pm
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>>414916
Would

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