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>> No. 418222 Anonymous
30th June 2018
Saturday 9:53 am
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New weekend thread.

Making the most of the sunshine, lads?
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>> No. 418223 Anonymous
30th June 2018
Saturday 10:02 am
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My sisters having a barbecue, which means I'm going to go and battle the queues in Tesco or Aldi to try and find some sort of meat because she always seems to hugely under-estimate the number of sausages a group of grown men can swallow.
>> No. 418225 Anonymous
30th June 2018
Saturday 10:07 am
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>>418222
morning lads!!

Today is going to be gardening and recovering from the wake I went to yesterday. Good send off.
>> No. 418226 Anonymous
30th June 2018
Saturday 10:26 am
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I want to die, fuck this heat.
>> No. 418227 Anonymous
30th June 2018
Saturday 10:31 am
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Burnt already.

Playing EU4 at the moment, then it's football all day.
>> No. 418228 Anonymous
30th June 2018
Saturday 10:44 am
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>>418226
I too have had enough of it now. My garden needs rain.
>> No. 418229 Anonymous
30th June 2018
Saturday 11:03 am
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>>418228 You can have rain after tuesday. Got hay to get in the barn. After that, fuck yes, bring on the rain!
After a weird winter, weird spring, we now seem to be getting a pretty full-on summer.
>> No. 418230 Anonymous
30th June 2018
Saturday 11:24 am
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To think it was so cold my boiler's condensate pipe was freezing up just over 4 months ago.
>> No. 418231 Anonymous
30th June 2018
Saturday 11:46 am
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It's so hot, if I thought about how hot it is, my head would melt like those Nazis in Raiders.
>> No. 418232 Anonymous
30th June 2018
Saturday 11:53 am
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Still more or less in bed. Went on a pub crawl with my mates for the first time in ages.

I'm getting old. It's just not as easy to bounce back the next day as it used to be.
>> No. 418233 Anonymous
30th June 2018
Saturday 12:19 pm
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>>418228
>My garden needs rain.

You could try blasting it with piss.

https://theecologist.org/2010/sep/22/urine-ultimate-organic-fertiliser
>> No. 418234 Anonymous
30th June 2018
Saturday 12:27 pm
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Hayfever is fucking killing me. Tried loratidinde and cetirizine, it only makes the pain almost bearable. Also, it is just me or do we have a very big difference between day and night? I spend all the day broiling and all night shivering.
>> No. 418235 Anonymous
30th June 2018
Saturday 1:41 pm
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No help to you, but my hayfever is the least it's been for a decade.
Bloody odd since I'm haymakinglad and have moved out of a city to the middle of the countryside, but I'll take it...
>> No. 418236 Anonymous
30th June 2018
Saturday 1:55 pm
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I did a 100 mile bike ride yesterday. It was lovely, but my legs don't work anymore.

Also, I slathered myself in SPF 50 but I still ended up coming back slightly red. I'm afraid to go out again.
>> No. 418239 Anonymous
30th June 2018
Saturday 2:42 pm
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>>418222
I figured out yesterday, because I was turtling and playing the computer because depression, that if you open the windows but close the curtains the house doesn't heat up.

I'm down to one desk fan and I'm very comfortable atm. This weekend's WC games are good and my wife will no doubt buy Fruit Pastille ice lollies on her way home from work, the dream lads.
>> No. 418240 Anonymous
30th June 2018
Saturday 2:58 pm
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>>418232
To make matters worse, Irn Bru changed its recipe so I have to use reydration salts and barley sugars like a fucking pansy now.

I've discovered Watermelon, roughly spherical with spidering (brown stretch marks) and a yellow bald patch indicating ripeness is the GOAT hot weather/hangover salve if you're fit enough for a Supermarket run.
>> No. 418241 Anonymous
30th June 2018
Saturday 3:02 pm
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>>418240
Under new regulations for sugar content, nearly all UK made soft drinks are now mostly sweetener. Sorry about that one, pal, Dioralyte tastes fucking foul.

>>418236
When they say you need to reapply it ever 2 hours, you need to reapply it every two hours. Especially if you're sweating it off, in which case I'd reapply it on the hour. Melanoma runs in my family, so I've started using SPF50+ for babies, it's thick as hell and I still live in fear of turning even slightly pink in heatwaves like this.
>> No. 418242 Anonymous
30th June 2018
Saturday 3:07 pm
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>>418241

Just make the cans smaller or charge more, I only drink it when I'm rough anyway. Cola have the right idea there.
>> No. 418243 Anonymous
30th June 2018
Saturday 3:09 pm
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>>418240

There is an Iranian greengrocer's arond the corner here, and they always have absurdly sized watermelons every summer. At a good price too, and if you don't want to spend ten quid on a forty-pound watermelon that's two feet long and fifteen inches in diameter, they will let you buy smaller cuts of it or even just single wedges.

They have also become my go-to place for things like bulk pistachios or some vegetables.
>> No. 418244 Anonymous
30th June 2018
Saturday 3:58 pm
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>>418241

>When they say you need to reapply it ever 2 hours, you need to reapply it every two hours.

That's the thing, I did! I used plenty too. I'm sure I'd have had serious sunburn if I hadn't reapplied it.

Cycling is a great thing to do in the heat, mind, as even tootling along at 10mph you get a lovely breeze going. Would recommend, though perhaps I wouldn't recommend a hundred miles on a fixed gear like I did.
>> No. 418246 Anonymous
30th June 2018
Saturday 4:14 pm
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Just repotted a mango plant that I raised from a seed last autumn. It has grown into a little 20-inch tree by now.

Just a few more decades of climate change and growth of my little tree, and I will be harvesting mangoes from my back garden in Nottingham.
>> No. 418247 Anonymous
30th June 2018
Saturday 4:39 pm
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>>418239
>my wife will no doubt buy Fruit Pastille ice lollies on her way home from work, the dream lads.
>> No. 418248 Anonymous
30th June 2018
Saturday 6:20 pm
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>>418247

Nah m8.
>> No. 418249 Anonymous
30th June 2018
Saturday 6:25 pm
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You're all wrong.
>> No. 418253 Anonymous
30th June 2018
Saturday 7:22 pm
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>>418244

Lol fixie. Get a proper bike and get over to Calderdale and do some proper riding :p

https://youtu.be/A9FYyZd7pxc
>> No. 418254 Anonymous
30th June 2018
Saturday 7:26 pm
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>>418253

Best thing for training your legs, lad. Bouncing down a hill isn't exactly athletic enough for me.

used to go up Ilkley all the time on the MTB when I worked over there but y'know
>> No. 418255 Anonymous
30th June 2018
Saturday 7:34 pm
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>>418248
Fab lollies have definitely had their recipe changed. There's less strawberry juice, the white layer isn't as soft as it was and is also less creamy, the chocolate is cheaper and there's fewer hundreds and thousands on the top.

That and it's a lolly for girls, you great big Jessie.
>> No. 418256 Anonymous
30th June 2018
Saturday 8:42 pm
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>>418255
I don't really know what I'm talking about but I imagine most of today's confectionery has a significantly different recipe than the one from twenty years ago.
>> No. 418257 Anonymous
30th June 2018
Saturday 8:59 pm
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>>418256

Indeed. Food development is all about marginal gains, and recipes are tweaked and tested constantly. There's almost certainly a load of products we enjoy that have been quietly changed to save money or improve shelf life that we'd never notice.

There's an interesting dichotomy in play when people do notice, though. Companies will focus-group and market research the shit out of these changes. It's pretty common for market research to include sending say, 15 kit kats to each participant in the research, each with slightly adjusted ratios of ingredients. They tend to take that data and use it to make a version of the product that tests much better than the original. Yet, when they release it, people notice the change, and outside of the context of a survey asking you which one is better or worse, they immediately go to "it's DIFFERENT so I HATE IT" and that's all they can focus on. Typically within a few weeks people realise it's actually fine and that's the end of it, but I still think it's an interesting human quirk. It's amazing how quickly people pick up on incredibly minor changes in a recipe, provided they eat it frequently enough.
>> No. 418259 Anonymous
30th June 2018
Saturday 9:07 pm
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>>418256
I don't think you even need to go that far back. Kraft have ruined Cadbury's and I don't know if they've changed the recipe of Toblerone but there was that furore about them spacing out the triangles not too long ago.
>> No. 418263 Anonymous
30th June 2018
Saturday 9:59 pm
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>>418257

Maybe the people who say the new recipe is shit simply found that the old formula was just right for them. Maybe those people simply didn't want less sugar, or more of it, or more chocolate or more vanilla flavour.

It's swings and roundabouts if you're lucky. You will always lose some customers when you redesign a product, and your hope is that that loss of part of your customer base will be outbalanced by increased satisfaction of other loyal customers and a couple of new ones.

For some reason, I tend to be somebody who becomes more miffed than most people at product changes of products that I have used for years and found just right for me, including many food items. Maybe I am just too OCD. Or a bit on the spectrum. But by and large, please do not change my products that I have gotten used to. They're fine the way they are, and I fear change.
>> No. 418264 Anonymous
30th June 2018
Saturday 11:25 pm
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>>418263
Kraft almost certainly changed it as a cost cutting measure. The consistency of dairy milk is different now too, as it used to hold up well to room temp and now it melts as soon as you touch the fucking thing. Palm oil makes it taste like puke, as well. It's barely above Hershey at this point, the last bastions of sanity in the chocolate market are Thorntons and Green & Black's.
>> No. 418265 Anonymous
30th June 2018
Saturday 11:41 pm
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>>418263

The grim reality that corporations know all too well is that as long as the product still tastes alright, they're not going to see significant, or any, loss of sales. Only a negligible handful of people will actually boycott nutella because there's less cocoa powder in it. Everyone else who has it every day for breakfast or whatever will sigh a bit and continue buying it.

I think Lucozade is probably the worst we've seen since New Coke - they lost about 9% in sales the year they cut the sugar in it. The problem was, it tasted fucking shit after that. The excessive sugar was it's signature taste in many ways, and they failed to compensate for it in the reduced sugar version, and lost about 45 million quid for it. In the same breath though, the very same company cut roughly the same amount sugar out of Ribena, but it still tastes pretty bloody good, and as such has seen its sales increase significantly in the same year.
>> No. 418266 Anonymous
1st July 2018
Sunday 12:02 am
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I reversed off my drive right into the lad over the roads car. No damage to mine and a scuff ot his bumper. But fucking hellwhat a bang.
>> No. 418267 Anonymous
1st July 2018
Sunday 12:18 am
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>>418266
>> No. 418269 Anonymous
1st July 2018
Sunday 4:54 am
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I'm awake at this hour because I have to drive two women to a fucking bike race. One of them better win mind
>> No. 418270 Anonymous
1st July 2018
Sunday 8:19 am
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>>418266
Nothing a little T-Cut won't rub out.
>> No. 418271 Anonymous
1st July 2018
Sunday 8:21 am
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>>418269
>two women
>fucking bike race

Where do I sign up?
>> No. 418272 Anonymous
1st July 2018
Sunday 8:33 am
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>>418271

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrzEDyS9Ddw
>> No. 418273 Anonymous
1st July 2018
Sunday 8:42 am
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I usually wake up around 6am every morning, so it doesn't annoy me too much personally, but people who fire up their petrol lawnmowers at 8 on a sunday morning are massive twats.
>> No. 418274 Anonymous
1st July 2018
Sunday 11:06 am
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>>418273
Actually it was the gardener who's paid to maintain the ground around this flat.
So my landlord is actually paying him to mow grass that hasn't grown even 1mm since the last time he did it.

This is the same landlord who had new lines for parking spaces painted in the yard where you can't fit a car into because of the row of clothes line poles cemented into the ground.
>> No. 418275 Anonymous
1st July 2018
Sunday 12:31 pm
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>>418273
The cunts down my road must have made an agreement because everyday it's some other cunt out with their strimmer or jet washer.
There must be a competition on who can produce the loudest noise for the longest.
>> No. 418276 Anonymous
1st July 2018
Sunday 12:52 pm
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>>418265

>I think Lucozade is probably the worst we've seen since New Coke - they lost about 9% in sales the year they cut the sugar in it. The problem was, it tasted fucking shit after that.

Which it didn't before.
>> No. 418277 Anonymous
1st July 2018
Sunday 1:11 pm
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>>418275

One of my friends from uni is German, and I visited him for a few days over the weekend last year. Germans are very particular about weekend noise regulation. You pretty much aren't allowed to do anything out in the open after Saturday 5 pm which creates noise that might disturb your neighbours. No mowing the lawn, no jet washers, no strimmers, no other type of electric or petrol powered gardening tool. It's called Ruhestorung (disturbing the quiet), and anybody is within their rights to call the police on you who will then come and fine you. "Social" noise is acceptable to some degree, but you are still expected to keep it down a little bit.

And I have to say there is something to be said for banning noise in residential areas that way. We were sat in my friend's back garden a whole Sunday afternoon having a barbecue, and it felt like being out in the country somewhere, not like we were in a suburban residential area barely ten minutes from the city centre.
>> No. 418282 Anonymous
1st July 2018
Sunday 1:51 pm
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>>418277

Nazi bastards. Maybe I want to spend my evenings listening to jungle music and strimming the lawn? At least no fascist is going to tell me otherwise.
>> No. 418283 Anonymous
1st July 2018
Sunday 3:26 pm
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Spent forty-five minutes walking about outside and my gouch was swamped. Had to change my undies when I got back.
>> No. 418284 Anonymous
1st July 2018
Sunday 3:26 pm
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I live next door to a house full of Polish lads. They're all builders and labourers who live and work together to save up money.

All I can say is that they are a credit to the wider immigrant community. I can honestly say I've never once cracked my window open on an evening to hear the song Rave To The Grave played on repeat at full volume over a bluetooth speaker. They've never got a barbecue and then spent then next month stubbornly flame grilling every single meal come rain or shine while blaring the football on Astra out of the french doors. I've never witnessed them drinking in the garden until 3am singing marching songs from the Old Country.

None of those things have ever happened and you're a racist bastard for suggesting it's the sort of thing they might do.
>> No. 418285 Anonymous
1st July 2018
Sunday 3:38 pm
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>>418276

I can't tell if you're agreeing with what I already said or sarcastically telling us you didn't ever like Lucozade. Either way, good for you?
>> No. 418287 Anonymous
1st July 2018
Sunday 4:12 pm
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>>418282

You can't fault them for simply following orders.
>> No. 418288 Anonymous
1st July 2018
Sunday 6:10 pm
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>>418284

It's nice to see that they're integrating with British culture.
>> No. 418289 Anonymous
1st July 2018
Sunday 6:13 pm
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>>418277

Sounds pretty sensible, to be honest.

>>418282

You say that, but you wouldn't find Hitler playing jungle music at 3 o'clock in the morning.

SEE ME SEE ME ME ME ME ME DI HIT MAN AH COME


>> No. 418290 Anonymous
1st July 2018
Sunday 8:27 pm
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Aaand... it's finally a reasonable temperature in my room.
>> No. 418291 Anonymous
1st July 2018
Sunday 8:40 pm
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>>418289

Godwin's law strikes again.
>> No. 418292 Anonymous
1st July 2018
Sunday 8:46 pm
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>>418289

>you wouldn't find Hitler playing jungle music at 3 o'clock in the morning.
>> No. 418293 Anonymous
1st July 2018
Sunday 8:48 pm
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I'm getting a right sweat on just sitting here watching telly.
>> No. 418294 Anonymous
1st July 2018
Sunday 9:44 pm
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>>418292

WATCH OUT LADM7, COME ARTICLE 13 YOUR POST WILL SEND YOU TO GULAG
>> No. 418304 Anonymous
2nd July 2018
Monday 2:32 am
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>>418292

Who knows.
>> No. 418311 Anonymous
2nd July 2018
Monday 1:47 pm
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>>418292

Whenever I see him now I think of "If you ever post that [forbiden meme] again, I'll put your head through the wall"
>> No. 418464 Anonymous
6th July 2018
Friday 5:22 pm
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Is there a tactful way of giving a job reference for a person who is quite clearly incompetent?

I've been asked to give a reference for someone who's leaving at work when he's not very bright and struggles with independent thought. They've asked a number of questions about their ability to do the job and the best I've been able to think of so far is lines about them doing work "to the very best of their ability" which isn't a lie, it's just that the best of their ability is mediocre.
>> No. 418467 Anonymous
6th July 2018
Friday 5:46 pm
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>>418464

Are you daft? Give him a glowing reference. Then he's out of your hair and someone else's problem.
>> No. 418469 Anonymous
6th July 2018
Friday 5:58 pm
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>>418467

I knew a counsellor from a homeless charity who had to write a reference for a lad getting a flat when he trashed his previous flat prior to getting sectioned. She was writing things like "Well, it was always neat and tidy whenever I saw it."
>> No. 418471 Anonymous
6th July 2018
Friday 6:04 pm
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>>418467
According to a school governor of my former secondary that was exactly their policy on awful teachers. They must have interviewed as badly as they taught because only the good ones ever seemed to leave.
>> No. 418472 Anonymous
6th July 2018
Friday 6:30 pm
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>>418464

Write a few things that seem like praise but aren't really.

"He showed interest in his work"
"He was able to master difficulties"
"He made an effort to complete tasks even when he struggled with them"
"He completed his tasks to the expectations of his superiors"

All these sound like positive feedback at first glance but really describe an employee who is barely above the level of a mong.
>> No. 418473 Anonymous
6th July 2018
Friday 6:34 pm
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>>418472
"He worked here for xxxx months."
>> No. 418475 Anonymous
6th July 2018
Friday 6:48 pm
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Some chavs in a corsa gave me the finger when I was in the wrong lane on a roundabout.

I foolishly returned the finger, and they then stopped the car in front of mine and the passenger got out and started towards me. Before he could get to me, though, I started the car and he only managed to scrape me through the window as I drove past.

Unfortunately they immediately pulled alongside at the next junction, and at this point I heard what sounded like a gunshot, I then said "look, i'm sorry" and they gave me some lip about not knowing who they were, before we thankfully went our separate ways.

I thought they might just have chucked something at my car in such a way that it landed on it with a crack like a gunshot, but when I got home I could find no kind of mark. So I think they shot towards my car, intentionally missing so as to scare me, possibly with a BB-gun.

I don't want to drive in this city any more. I don't like the poor-driving, quick-swearing ball of testosterone it has turned me into, and I don't want to die at the hands of some drug dealing chavs.
>> No. 418477 Anonymous
6th July 2018
Friday 7:08 pm
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>>418475

Where on earth do you live lad? Hope you're okay.

I always like to think that people get weird when they're behind pieces of metal, so I use the supermarket test.

Would I react like that if we were stood together in a supermarket and they just put their trolley in front of mine, if not, let it go.
>> No. 418478 Anonymous
6th July 2018
Friday 7:10 pm
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>>418475

It probably won't make you feel much better, but you'd have fucking known about it if they'd shot an actual gun. They're very loud.

It was probably their dodgy corsa remap backfiring.


>> No. 418479 Anonymous
6th July 2018
Friday 7:39 pm
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>>418477
When I've had people give me the finger, I tend to respond with a thumbs-up or cheerful wave.
>> No. 418480 Anonymous
6th July 2018
Friday 7:58 pm
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>>418475

I had a similar experience on the motorway once with a black E class Mercedes with four quite shady looking young Arabs in it. They were tailgating me in busy traffic while I was near enough obeying the law and going 70-75, and when they got really pesky, I stepped on the brakes, which almost caused them to crash into me from behind. I then saw them gesturing wildly in my rear view mirror and they then pulled up next to me giving me really hateful looks. I happened to have my big single lens camera out in the passenger seat, so I picked it up and pretended I was taking pictures of them. The driver then slammed on the brakes but then pulled up next to me again, and I could see that it had aggravated them even more. They were making gestures like they wanted to kill me. Luckily, at that moment I saw a police car turning into the motorway just behind us, so I slowed down and kept near that police car for the next five miles and then got off the motorway together with them. The Arabs stayed on and I saw them once more making hateful gestures me before their car disappeared from view.

I'm not sure how the situation with those young Arabs could have turned out, but I was really glad that that police car showed up.
>> No. 418482 Anonymous
6th July 2018
Friday 8:05 pm
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>>418467
His notice is handed in, there's no way he's working here after the end of the month even if his other job falls through. I doubt he'll be kept on at the end of his probation so I want to leave them something they can look back on with the benefit of hindsight to realise I was warning them he's shite.

>>418475
I've only had something similar happen to me once. A couple of Asian lads in a Citroen Saxo were mad that I didn't let them pull out of a side street in front of me so I gave them the old Nescafe shake. They then repeatedly tried pulling alongside my car or they'd hang back before rapidly accelerating and braking as close as they could to my car.

Actually, thinking about it, another couple of Asian lads tried intimidating me on the M1 when they got annoyed that I pulled into the middle lane despite the fact they were some way behind me, even if they were ridiculously speeding, and the right hand lane was clear for them to switch into.
>> No. 418485 Anonymous
6th July 2018
Friday 9:57 pm
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I witnessed a shoplifter being escorted by police out of my local Tesco's here tonight.

Dirty dolescum.
>> No. 418489 Anonymous
6th July 2018
Friday 10:26 pm
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>>418485

What would you do if your son was at home, crying all alone on the bedroom floor 'cause he's hungry, and the only way to feed him is to twock a telly for a little bit of money and his daddy's gone?
>> No. 418492 Anonymous
6th July 2018
Friday 10:49 pm
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>>418489

Even for .gs, that is wild conjecture, m3t.

Also, I'll bet that the money which that lad (!) would have made flipping his stolen goods could just as easily have been saved by laying off the fags and pints.

I also don't buy into the sob story that single mums on the dole go shoplifting to provide for their children. If you really care about your children, then you will find ways to put food on the table for them by legal means. And I'm sure there are just as many woman shoplifters who are drug addicts and care fuck all about the three children that child services have already taken away from them, and that it's all about scoring their next fix of heroin.

Which is probably conjecture in itself, but still not as wild as yours.
>> No. 418495 Anonymous
6th July 2018
Friday 10:55 pm
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>>418492
What makes you so much better than a thieving heroin addict?
>> No. 418497 Anonymous
6th July 2018
Friday 11:00 pm
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>>418495

>What makes you so much better than a thieving heroin addict?

How about the fact that I pay for the things I get from Tesco's... and with money that I have earned working ten hours every day of the week.
>> No. 418498 Anonymous
6th July 2018
Friday 11:18 pm
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>>418497
So, in short, you're a mug?
>> No. 418500 Anonymous
6th July 2018
Friday 11:22 pm
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I nick pastries on the reg from ASDA and the like and none of you narc bastards are gonna' stop me.
>> No. 418501 Anonymous
6th July 2018
Friday 11:23 pm
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>>418497

The vast majority of shoplifters are bored housewives, who have partners that work 10 hours every day of the week.

It's why Tesco upgraded their security surveillance about 5 years back, because so much fruit and chocolate was going missing. People shoplift for a whole host of reasons, proudly exclaiming your Tory values of hard work and gumption don't change the fact most people who nick stuff are in gainful employment, even if it's part-time.

Druggies just try and steal risky high value stuff that can turn a profit, because they are too strung out or too stupid to hold down a job. You can't honestly say you wouldn't do the same thing in their shoes.

On the subject of druggie culture, booze and fags don't even register as options for them in my experience (which is extensive). It's literally just clothes and drugs, even food is a secondary issue. They get clothes from goodwill and food from Iceland and eat one meal a day so they can do more drugs. That you have no empathy for feeling so hopeless that drugs become the preferable option is obvious, but your opinions and conjecture are massively skewed towards you confirmation bias that druggies are lazy, which is hilarious if you knew how far they'll walk and the hoops they'll jump through for a fix.
>> No. 418502 Anonymous
6th July 2018
Friday 11:27 pm
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>>418492

Mate.


>> No. 418503 Anonymous
6th July 2018
Friday 11:31 pm
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>>418497
>Tesco's

Yeah, you're worse than a skaghead.
>> No. 418508 Anonymous
7th July 2018
Saturday 12:16 am
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>>418501

>That you have no empathy for feeling so hopeless that drugs become the preferable option is obvious, but your opinions and conjecture are massively skewed towards you confirmation bias that druggies are lazy, which is hilarious if you knew how far they'll walk and the hoops they'll jump through for a fix.


Right. I'm a cold hearted cynic because I point out that there is something wrong with that kind of lifestyle.

I know it's not even one percent as bad as hard drug abuse, but I used to be a chain smoker. And even if nicotine doesn't tend to have the immediate devastating effect on your ability to function as a human being in society, kicking a smoking habit and getting down from 30 fags a day for ten years to nothing ever again, now six years and counting, required very great amounts of will power and determination.

It's all too easy to be a self righteous cunt and say drugs are a weakness of character, but I would never say that. Drugs are a serious problem in society. Then again, it isn't always society's fault. Many people were well aware which road they were going down when they got their first few fixes and were still coherent enough in their heads to realise what a dark path they were going on. Yes, they may have had problems in their lives that seemed so difficult to overcome that drugs provided a few minutes or a few hours of solace. At least in the beginning before they became true addicts. But the answer isn't to say it's society's fault that people use drugs.

On a related note, does anybody remember the segments in the Daily Mail in the early 90s when I was a teenlad that read something like, "How to tell if your child uses drugs", and they gave kind of a vernacular run-down of drug related terms that the small-minded hypocrites at the Daily Mail thought were indicative of a teenager being involved in drugs. My mates and I were taking the piss out of it, by deliberately saying those words to each other when we knew our parents were listening. My one mate's parents fell for it completely, and sat their son down to have a "drug intervention". Ah, good times.
>> No. 418511 Anonymous
7th July 2018
Saturday 1:10 am
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>>418508

>Then again, it isn't always society's fault.

I've yet to see an example to the contrary. Pretty much everyone with a drink or drug addiction has been failed by the system, usually multiple times.

Social workers have absolutely ridiculous caseloads. They might be responsible for dozens of utterly dysfunctional families, with barely enough time in the week to check that everyone is still alive. They're trapped in an awful double-bind - if they do take kids into care then they're a heartless child-snatcher, but if they don't then they're a bleeding-heart moron who cares more about junkie parents than poor innocent kids.

Mental health care is in a dismal state. Friends of mine have been sent home from A&E after a suicide attempt with nothing more than the phone number for The Samaritans written on a post-it note. Waits of over six months for psychological therapies are par for the course, in which time someone could deteriorate from "a bit miserable" to "unable to look after themselves". Many children with severe mental health problems have been waiting more than two years for a referral to CAMHS. The managers of every psychiatric inpatient unit in the country are constantly weighing up the risks of discharging someone against the risks of not admitting someone, because the number of people who need a bed permanently outweighs the number of beds available by a very large margin.

The sanctions regime means that it's incredibly easy to become destitute for making a simple mistake. A lot of very vulnerable people are living with the constant threat of having no money at all if they forget an appointment, miss a bus or fill out a form incorrectly.

We're just ruining people's lives for no good reason. It's not even saving us money - prevention is nearly always cheaper than cure. Every pound spent on mental health and social work pays for itself several times over in increased productivity and a reduced burden on other services.
>> No. 418514 Anonymous
7th July 2018
Saturday 1:49 am
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>>418511

I would never say that society has no responsibility to look after its weak, sick and feeble.

But even with all the help and social assistance such a society can muster, nothing will come of it if you don't want to better yourself.

This may again sound cold hearted, but you can't just keep blaming society for all the shoplifting meth heads out there who haven't held down a job in ten years.
>> No. 418516 Anonymous
7th July 2018
Saturday 2:35 am
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>>418514
Not even who you're replying to, but I absolutely can, and I absolutely will blame this government and Tory voting fucks like you for every kid in care who predictably ends up on H to try and cope with a childhood filled with the kind of misery you are so disgustingly fortunate to never be able to understand, and I'll enjoy the candle I shoplifted from Sainsbury's to give me a little bit of joy while I try to scrape rent together this week on a job that still doesn't pay the fucking living wage and you can't do a single little thing about it.
>> No. 418518 Anonymous
7th July 2018
Saturday 4:01 am
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I don't know if any of the rest of you are musiclads but I've just been round to my mate's studio for the first time in a long while - I haven't really kept up with the market and FUCK ME am I impressed with Behringer bringing out a Model D clone and their own semi modular thing - both for three hundred quid a piece? Absolutely mental, and they sound great. Teenage Engineering's OP-1 thing is fucking brilliant too, it's so much fun and so powerful.

If they'd had this shit back in the day when I was still making money in the game, I'd probably not have spent so much time with my head in a laptop. VSTs are great but come on.
>> No. 418525 Anonymous
7th July 2018
Saturday 7:29 am
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>>418516
Again, not who you replied to.

Sorry ladm8, but acknowledging that there is a personal motivational factor when it comes to an addict getting clean does not make you a Tory. If you had firsthand experience of an alcoholic or addicted friend or family member, then you would know that with all the help and support in the world, it is meaningless unless they want to be clean or sober themself. You can bring a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.

In case it needs mentioning, I'm not condoning this government in any way or denying that the right external support is crucial.
>> No. 418526 Anonymous
7th July 2018
Saturday 9:45 am
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>>418525
Pipe down, evil lackey of the tory ruling elite.
>> No. 418529 Anonymous
7th July 2018
Saturday 9:53 am
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Lads, the sun is out. Go outside and enjoy yourselves rather than being yeasty.
>> No. 418532 Anonymous
7th July 2018
Saturday 12:20 pm
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>>418525

>If you had firsthand experience of an alcoholic or addicted friend or family member, then you would know that with all the help and support in the world, it is meaningless unless they want to be clean or sober themself.

This exactly. The toughest nut to crack isn't always maintaining government programmes aimed at getting people out of their squalor. By and large, there are enough programmes, and by and large, there is always enough money for them. No, it's keeping people from reverting to their old ways and falling by the wayside again.

People are habit creatures, and it takes immense will power to dissociate yourself from your drug using junkie friends and build a new life for yourself where you are a functioning member of society with friends, a job, and a family. No government programme can take those steps for you, all anybody can ever do is be there for you along the way with emotional support and positive reinforcement.

I always remember one of my brother's friends from school, who got involved in drugs when he was 17, maybe 18. He was from a decent, intact middle class home, but at some point he started using heroin and later things like cocaine and LSD. He used to go to Amsterdam with friends over weekends to score some weed and other substances, and one time, he got caught trafficking a few pounds of cannabis into the UK. He spent some time in prison because it wasn't his first drug related offence. Why am I telling you this, well, his parents tried and tried with him, they sent him to counselling, they got him into a rehab programme that cost them a substantial amount of their own money. Nothing had any kind of effect. He drifted ever further into a life of drug abuse. All the help that was available to him, all the pleading and good intentions had no effect. I'm not even sure if he is still alive today or what became of him.

I had expected more of you, .gs. Stop blaming the government for your own, or somebody else's misery. It is not the way forward. You lot wouldn't even be happy with your lives if we had the most left-wing Labour government imaginable who would wipe your arses every time you went to the toilet. You would still be complaining that the toilet paper isn't soft enough or that they're wiping too hard.
>> No. 418534 Anonymous
7th July 2018
Saturday 12:54 pm
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Seems relevant.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7MphIYj7h0#
>> No. 418535 Anonymous
7th July 2018
Saturday 1:08 pm
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>>418534

This should be mandatory viewing for everybody on .gs before you are allowed to make any kind of government-blaming shitposts.
>> No. 418536 Anonymous
7th July 2018
Saturday 1:08 pm
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>>418518

The whole analog market has gone bonkers. There are loads of brilliant, implausibly cheap synths. Arturia, Korg and Behringer all have capable monosynths for less than £300. Behringer have the Deepmind 12 - a 12 voice true analog polysynth for £750. Everyone got sick of working inside the box, so synth manufacturers have really raised their game.

I can't believe that a Korg Monologue only costs £220. It sounds absolutely fucking evil.


>> No. 418537 Anonymous
7th July 2018
Saturday 1:49 pm
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>>418536

It's the hardware. It gets mass produced for a few quid per circuit board somewhere in China, and the software is likewise programmed by people in India, Bangladesh or Malaysia where labour costs are minimal.

I think it's a good thing, because getting young people into making music by making affordable synths available to them is still the better approach than letting them throw together some samples in LMMS on their computer with only a tentative grasp on what they are actually doing.
>> No. 418538 Anonymous
7th July 2018
Saturday 2:07 pm
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It's too hot to eat properly. I'm pretty much living off a diet of toasted pitta bread and hummus.
>> No. 418541 Anonymous
7th July 2018
Saturday 2:40 pm
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>>418514
> This may again sound cold hearted, but you can't just keep blaming society for all the shoplifting meth heads out there who haven't held down a job in ten years.

You're getting your drugs mixed up lad, this isn't America. A gram of decent meth is 200 snaps in the UK and the vast majority of users are Thai sex workers or people in the party & play scene. It just never got a foothold as a real drug of abuse in the UK because it's a valuable commodity with only a single supplier and thus a fixed and manipulated market price; it's a luxury item and a symbol of status.

An actual meth addict (if such a thing existed) would, if he wanted to keep his habit going and had run out of money, start buying £10/g base by the ounce and doing basic acetone washes and learning how to use a needle. Chances are, however, that he'd probably just eat two boxes of coco pops and sleep for a week.

The people you find shoplifting are the people who can't just sleep off a habit; the people on brown and vallies, DT levels of white cider, or even a mix of all three.

Regards, Drugsmaster General.
>> No. 418549 Anonymous
7th July 2018
Saturday 7:03 pm
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>>418536

It's incredible. I learned the craft right at the peak of 'computers do everything' type developments, and basically went to uni just to play with their proper hardware. I'd probably have done a far more useful degree if I could have bought something this nice for a couple of hundred quid.

Back then Behringer just made very cheap and very bad mixers. I was floored when I saw they have all this stuff coming out.

I'm seriously thinking about digging out my reel to reel, buying a few of these fuckers and setting up a fully analog workflow for a bit, just to see how it feels. Maybe I'll cheat and throw an MPC in there too, we'll see. I don't think I could ever turn my back on Ableton but it's limiting in its own way.

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