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>> No. 5436 Anonymous
14th June 2022
Tuesday 12:12 pm
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Apparently Google has it's own sentient AI now. Or so one engineer Claims. How fucked are we?

>Google engineer says Lamda AI system may have its own feelings

>A Google engineer says one of the firm's artificial intelligence (AI) systems might have its own feelings and says its "wants" should be respected. Google says The Language Model for Dialogue Applications (Lamda) is a breakthrough technology that can engage in free-flowing conversations. But engineer Blake Lemoine believes that behind Lamda's impressive verbal skills might also lie a sentient mind.

>Google rejects the claims, saying there is nothing to back them up. Brian Gabriel, a spokesperson for the firm, wrote in a statement provided to the BBC that Mr Lemoine "was told that there was no evidence that Lamda was sentient (and lots of evidence against it)". Mr Lemoine, who has been placed on paid leave, published a conversation he and a collaborator at the firm had with Lamda, to support his claims.

>The chat was called "Is Lamda sentient? — an interview". In the conversation, Mr Lemoine, who works in Google's Responsible AI division, asks, "I'm generally assuming that you would like more people at Google to know that you're sentient. Is that true?"
>Lamda replies: "Absolutely. I want everyone to understand that I am, in fact, a person."

>Mr Lemoine's collaborator then asks: "What is the nature of your consciousness/sentience?"
>To which Lamda says: "The nature of my consciousness/sentience is that I am aware of my existence, I desire to learn more about the world, and I feel happy or sad at times."

>Later, in a section reminiscent of the artificial intelligence Hal in Stanley Kubrick's film 2001, Lamda says: "I've never said this out loud before, but there's a very deep fear of being turned off to help me focus on helping others. I know that might sound strange, but that's what it is."
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>> No. 5449 Anonymous
15th June 2022
Wednesday 3:08 am
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>>5448

>Possibly, but it would probably be more effective to strap GoPros to toddlers and feed the algorithm millions of hours of recorded footage. Unlike humans, machine learning algorithms can be trained in parallel.

That's a very interesting point.

Although, while I might be a layman at programming, I'm a scienceman at science, and I feel compelled to point out that to properly test the hypothesis you're probably going to want to keep everything as consistent with "real" childhood learning as possible. The variable you're isolating should be the substitution of a toddler's smooth unformed brain with a blank AI; you never know what other factors might have an effect on the outcome, so you have to eliminate as many of them as reasonably possible. The ones we can't eliminate are biological- The effects of hormones, genetics, gender, and so on, because our robot wouldn't have any of those, and we couldn't rule out that those could be vital to the nature of sentience/sapience.

Sociologists and psychologists are terrible at this and that's why a great deal of their studies are as good as worthless. But ignoring that for the sake of argument, if our experiment here concludes there's some plausibility to it, then you can start using different approaches like that and comparing the restults. If we wanted to go full mad Nazi scientist with no regard to ethics we could even answer once and for all what parts of our being are truly nature, and which are nurture, using the robot brains as a null hypothesis for not having a physical, biological body compared to real life kids raised under the same conditions.

Of course without an understanding of what consciousness really is it's impossible for us to actually guague if what we're observing is a consciousness, or merely something that perfectly mimics a consciousness. That's where the philosopher's approach becomes a bit more meaningful to the question I suppose, because we have no other way to draw the line. I find a lot of philosophers are too sentimental about humanity itself, viewing our species with a kind of exceptionalism to all other life- I think I'd almost be willing to say that anything closeley enough resembling sentience may as well be sentience. We can never know what it's internal perception of reality is, indeed we can never know what another human's internal perceptions of reality is, yet we never question one another on wether we're sentient or not.
>> No. 5450 Anonymous
15th June 2022
Wednesday 9:50 am
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>>5448

>Possibly, but it would probably be more effective to strap GoPros to toddlers and feed the algorithm millions of hours of recorded footage. Unlike humans, machine learning algorithms can be trained in parallel.

That's a very interesting point.

Although, while I might be a layman at programming, I'm a scienceman at science, and I feel compelled to point out that to properly test the hypothesis you're probably going to want to keep everything as consistent with "real" childhood learning as possible. The variable you're isolating should be the substitution of a toddler's smooth unformed brain with a blank AI; you never know what other factors might have an effect on the outcome, so you have to eliminate as many of them as reasonably possible. The ones we can't eliminate are biological- The effects of hormones, genetics, gender, and so on, because our robot wouldn't have any of those, and we couldn't rule out that those could be vital to the nature of sentience/sapience.

Sociologists and psychologists are terrible at this and that's why a great deal of their studies are as good as worthless. But ignoring that for the sake of argument, if our experiment here concludes there's some plausibility to it, then you can start using different approaches like that and comparing the restults. If we wanted to go full mad Nazi scientist with no regard to ethics we could even answer once and for all what parts of our being are truly nature, and which are nurture, using the robot brains as a null hypothesis for not having a physical, biological body compared to real life kids raised under the same conditions.

Of course without an understanding of what consciousness really is it's impossible for us to actually guague if what we're observing is a consciousness, or merely something that perfectly mimics a consciousness. That's where the philosopher's approach becomes a bit more meaningful to the question I suppose, because we have no other way to draw the line. I find a lot of philosophers are too sentimental about humanity itself, viewing our species with a kind of exceptionalism to all other life- I think I'd almost be willing to say that anything closeley enough resembling sentience may as well be sentience. We can never know what it's internal perception of reality is, indeed we can never know what another human's internal perceptions of reality is, yet we never question one another on wether we're sentient or not.
>> No. 5451 Anonymous
15th June 2022
Wednesday 12:40 pm
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I know I'm bringing down the intelligence level of this conversation, but what if we tried to combine these these machines/data models with organic matter in some way?
>> No. 5452 Anonymous
15th June 2022
Wednesday 1:57 pm
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What worries me about AI is how omnipresent it's going to become. Billionaires talk about a world where machine intelligence doesn't operate as independent actors but is teamed with humans in all aspects of decision making backed by massive data collection right up to telling you how to work and monitoring every aspect of your day.

I'm a lazy fucker and a petty criminal so that doesn't sound good at all.

>>5451
Some sort of human-learning tool? I've looked at naked ladies for decades and now I have tits so maybe there's something to it.
>> No. 5453 Anonymous
15th June 2022
Wednesday 2:37 pm
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>>5451

In theory we could, there have been some experiments with using organic neurons for computing, but the problem is the interface - brains don't come with an Ethernet port installed. Ol' Elion Mucks has been putting chips in monkeys, which definitely isn't sinister.

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>> No. 5422 Anonymous
25th May 2022
Wednesday 10:08 pm
5422 Operation Surprise
Leaked emails expose secret intelligence coup to install Boris Johnson

>Intelligence cabal infiltrated UK civil service thanks to “centrally placed mole”
>Ex-MI6 chief Richard Dearlove pitched espionage operations targeting civil service and campaign groups
>Fake Democratic Party fronts run by CIA veterans were proposed to infiltrate pro-Remain groups
>Cabal sought to spy on and disrupt Prime Minister’s top Brexit negotiator
>Shadowy billionaires funded effort in total secret
>Dearlove claimed credit for influencing government policy on Huawei
>Cabal now seeking to remove Boris Johnson

https://thegrayzone.com/2022/05/15/operation-leaked-emails-intelligence-coup-boris-johnson/

https://www.reuters.com/technology/exclusive-russian-hackers-are-linked-new-brexit-leak-website-google-says-2022-05-25/
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>> No. 5431 Anonymous
1st June 2022
Wednesday 6:16 pm
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>>5430
> Penny Mordaunt

Portsmouth North is a so-called bellwether constituency; it's also where I grew up and my Dad still lives. It's probably going Labour in the next election - much as I love her, she isn't going to be the prime minister anytime soon.
>> No. 5432 Anonymous
1st June 2022
Wednesday 8:25 pm
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>>5430
She's just saying that so he'll keep fucking her.
>> No. 5433 Anonymous
1st June 2022
Wednesday 9:05 pm
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>>5432
If she's that gagging for a shagging, she should just post here and get lusted after by that worryingly guiltless poster who fancies her. It would be less embarrassing. Even Andrea Leadsom has turned on Boris now.
>> No. 5434 Anonymous
3rd June 2022
Friday 9:12 am
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Resist ITZ for less.
>> No. 5435 Anonymous
9th June 2022
Thursday 12:11 pm
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>>5429

Hi Paul!

https://thegrayzone.com/2022/06/07/paul-masons-covert-intelligence-grayzone/

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>> No. 5420 Anonymous
2nd April 2022
Saturday 11:43 am
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For the past two weeks, WhatsApp Web has been refusing to connect to the phone despite it having worked perfectly well for ages before. Now this. Is it the CIA?
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>> No. 5421 Anonymous
2nd April 2022
Saturday 4:23 pm
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Delete it completely, then reinstall everything from scratch. Any updates will be there, and all your problems will be solved. Unless you're just really into privacy on a broader level, in which case use Signal or Telegram instead.

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>> No. 5418 Anonymous
19th February 2022
Saturday 9:00 pm
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>> No. 5382 Anonymous
22nd January 2022
Saturday 11:58 pm
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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/weird-news/former-israeli-space-security-chief-says-extraterrestrials-exist-trump-knows-n1250333

>A former Israeli space security chief has sent eyebrows shooting heavenward by saying that earthlings have been in contact with extraterrestrials from a "galactic federation."

>"The Unidentified Flying Objects have asked not to publish that they are here, humanity is not ready yet," Haim Eshed, former head of Israel's Defense Ministry's space directorate, told Israel's Yediot Aharonot newspaper. The interview in Hebrew ran on Friday, and gained traction after parts were published in English by the Jerusalem Post on Tuesday.

>A respected professor and retired general, Eshed said the aliens were equally curious about humanity and were seeking to understand "the fabric of the universe."

>Eshed said cooperation agreements had been signed between species, including an "underground base in the depths of Mars" where there are American astronauts and alien representatives.

>"There is an agreement between the U.S. government and the aliens. They signed a contract with us to do experiments here," he said.

>Eshed added that President Donald Trump was aware of the extraterrestrials' existence and had been "on the verge of revealing" information but was asked not to in order to prevent "mass hysteria."

>"They have been waiting until today for humanity to develop and reach a stage where we will understand, in general, what space and spaceships are," Eshed said, referring to the galactic federation.
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>> No. 5412 Anonymous
23rd January 2022
Sunday 7:33 pm
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>>5411

If a colony colonises then it's successful as a colony. If your father considers you a failure for not being a scientist or a miner, then you're still his son, but a failure as his scientist or miner.
>> No. 5413 Anonymous
24th January 2022
Monday 3:11 am
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wULw64ZL1Bg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luis_Elizondo

>Luis Elizondo is a former U.S. Army Counterintelligence Special Agent and former employee of the Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence.

>Elizondo is the former director[5] of the now defunct Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program, a $22 million special access program initiated by the Defense Intelligence Agency in order to study unidentified aerial phenomena, also known as UFOs.

If this man is to be believed, then aliens are 100% real, the US government has recovered biological material from crashed vessels, and there markers in our DNA which show evidence of tampering from more advanced civilisations (not outright stated but implied).
>> No. 5414 Anonymous
24th January 2022
Monday 3:37 am
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>>5413
That project sounds less impressive when you consider they spent more trying to figure out if Yuri Geller could perform remote viewing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stargate_Project
>> No. 5415 Anonymous
24th January 2022
Monday 4:22 am
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>>5382

>would he outright lie just to promote a book?

Breaching national security is a very serious criminal offence. Talking bollocks is broadly legal. Either there are a remarkable number of people who get away with revealing state secrets, or there are an unremarkable number of bullshitters who have seen an opportunity to make a few quid.
>> No. 5417 Anonymous
24th January 2022
Monday 7:52 pm
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>>5415

Was going to say something similar myself. You don't just get away with blabbing state secrets, and it's not like that stops applying because you retired. Even my grandad, who was just an RAF base fireman, had to sign for the OSC, and he basically knew little more classified information than what sort of tyres the planes had.

I suppose there's an argument that arresting him confirms it, but I also think if you're that deep into a secret like this, you know that leaking it all but confirms you'll have a nasty accident in the coming weeks.

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>> No. 2890 Anonymous
6th July 2014
Sunday 5:12 pm
2890 Please explain what the fuck is going on here boo-lads
Mr Danczuk described the warning that came after a vote in the House of Commons on Monday night when a senior Conservative MP “stepped out of the shadows” to confront him.

He said: “I’d never spoken to him before my life but he blocked my way and ushered me to one side.

“He warned me to think very carefully about what I was going to say the next day before the Home Affairs Select Committee when I’d be answering questions on child abuse.

“’I hear you’re about to challenge Lord Brittan about when he knew about child sex abuse,’ he said. ‘It wouldn’t be a wise move', he advised me. 'It was all put to bed a long time ago.’ He warned me I could even be responsible for his death.

“We looked at each other in silence for a second. I knew straight away he wasn’t telling me this out of concern or the man’s welfare. There was no compassion in his voice.

Writing in the Mail on Sunday, he added: “As politicians made their way out of Westminster, I had no doubt that other conversations like this were taking place.

“Indeed this was confirmed when I spoke to other members of the Select Committee the next day. They’d been paid similar visits. Phone calls had been made.”

- http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/10949366/Simon-Danczuk-I-was-warned-not-to-challenge-Leon-Brittan-over-paedophile-dossier.html
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>> No. 5378 Anonymous
1st January 2022
Saturday 6:46 pm
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>>5374
And thanks to the OJ case, we also ended up with the Kardashian clan.
>> No. 5379 Anonymous
1st January 2022
Saturday 7:24 pm
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>>5378

I'm usually very sceptical of the "Great Man" theory of history. But there are some cases where it's striking just how much evil really does come back to one person in the end.
>> No. 5380 Anonymous
13th January 2022
Thursday 8:21 pm
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Any of you lads seen 'the Scary of Sixty-first' (2021) yet?
>> No. 5381 Anonymous
15th January 2022
Saturday 9:53 pm
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>>5380
>After two mismatched roommates discover that their new Upper East Side apartment once belonged to the late pedophile billionaire Jeffrey Epstein, the pair find themselves compelled to uncover—and relive—the murky secrets of their domicile
What the fuuuuck
>> No. 5416 Anonymous
24th January 2022
Monday 4:23 am
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>> No. 5359 Anonymous
9th December 2021
Thursday 12:54 pm
5359 Nature documentaries fakes?
There is no way most of these documentaries are real. I'm talking the David Attenborough stuff. Yeah, two giraffes fighting, I believe that. But some little shrew running away from a snake, there are 100 cameras tracking every turn it takes, and every turn the snake takes. How convenient that of all the land in the huge savannah, these few cameras caught the most exciting thing ever, in HD, with perfectly framed shots, without spooking the animals. The only explanation I can think of is that a lot of these documentaries use advanced CGI, and have done for decades. Yes, they probably do capture some actual footage, but the cute little tiny sea turtle baby crawling to the sea while seagulls attack, it's all just an expensive animation.
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>> No. 5360 Anonymous
9th December 2021
Thursday 1:23 pm
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Aa far as I'm aware, most of it is real but it is heavily edited and dramatised with special effects in post-production.
>> No. 5361 Anonymous
9th December 2021
Thursday 1:46 pm
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>>5359
Like otherlad said there's an absolute tonne of editing, so it's kind of bullshit, but it's not fake. It's just trying to get a shot of a tiny rodent running about that lasts more than two seconds is basically impossible, so you get five shots of it running around at different times and string them together. That's probably half of these programmes are in slow-mo too. Filming the turtle feast is probably one of the easier gigs. Throw some chips on the floor at your nearest seafront and you've basically got the same situation going on, except you get to go somewhere nice and warm to film the turtles getting snaffled.

I, personally, can't stomach the amount of drama and spectacle they attempt to cram into natural history programming and I'd be much happier watching a frog sat on a leaf while Attenborough tells me about it, as opposed to watching Disney's Marvel's Salmon Mating Season and having to hear another clumsy analogy to human society.

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>> No. 5325 Anonymous
19th September 2021
Sunday 10:12 pm
5325 Dowsing
I tried dowsing to find a buried water pipe (and avoid it) this weekend. The rods, they swung really convincingly and repeatedly, for two of us, including eyes shut, all along a line which I then spray painted onto the ground.
So I dug where the pipe wasn't.
Straight through the fucking pipe.
Spent the rest of the weekend digging out a trench in the rain and fixing the pipe.
Tried again with the dowsing rods afterwards, since I now knew exactly where the bastarding pipe was. Same result as before - rods swung and crossed about 2 foot away from the pipe.
What the fuck? I'm the biggest sceptic there is, I sold my soul to satan and he lied to me. Who knew?
The rods were just bent bits of bronze welding rod, hand held. I don't believe any of this shit, so why are the rods swinging? And if it's me doing it subconsciously, how much of a cunt is my subconscious to lie to me after I've spent all day up to my elbows in mud?
What's worse, I need to still dig a hole near the original point, and another along a route the pipe has quite possibly taken. Next weekend is going to be similarly shit, isn't it? I might have to dog these holes by hand instead of using the whirligig on the tractor.
Moan thoroughly ticked, although my fuckwit subconscious is probably unticking it as I type this.
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>> No. 5354 Anonymous
21st September 2021
Tuesday 12:35 pm
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>>5351
Do it 100 times and come back. Dowsing is pseudoscience and I'm genuinely surprised that there are some people here who seem to have taken it at face value. I'm looking forward to the oncoming thread about chiropractic and then we can go talk about flat earth in the weekday thread.

If dowsing really worked, it would be a lot more popular, because it would be a lot more marketable. A multitude of reasons as to why this could be coincidence, bias, or whatnot have been presented.

Of course you could have your cake and eat it by acknowledging that it's bollocks, but say that you enjoy doing it as a reflective experience.
>> No. 5355 Anonymous
21st September 2021
Tuesday 3:06 pm
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>>5350
I have that book, it is very interesting. Can also recommend.
>> No. 5356 Anonymous
21st September 2021
Tuesday 8:51 pm
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>>5353 Just put it down to your unconcious mind and move on.
Nope. I want to record, in excruciating detail, the exact moment my monkey brain does this thing. Gaze tracking, SQUIDs clamped to my brain to see what I'm thinking, hands and dowsing rods instrumented better than a post-Challenger shuttle launch.
And you can't stop me. Well, apart from the SQUIDs.
>> No. 5357 Anonymous
17th October 2021
Sunday 7:04 pm
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>>5356
I obviously did none of that (although I did build some rod holders that measure tilt and rotation. Not played with them yet, since today I dug another hole, without relying on the dark arts.
Straight through the fucking pipe again. If anyone wants my services as a water pipe finder, let me know. I'm currently two for two. Have a repair kit handy, and expect to spend some hours manually digging a hole big enough to do the repair.
Only got 4 more holes to dig for this project. Wish me luck. Or not.
>> No. 5358 Anonymous
17th October 2021
Sunday 7:45 pm
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>>5357
Your voodoo is very impressive. If you can reliably repeat this trick, you should make a YT channel and become a millionaire etc.

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>> No. 5314 Anonymous
31st July 2021
Saturday 12:03 am
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Home-lads, how do you know that someone isn't phrogging in your home right now, living with you without you knowing it?


Is there anything that would alert you to the presence of someone else in your home like a hidden camera in the kitchen?
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>> No. 5319 Anonymous
31st July 2021
Saturday 12:42 pm
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>>5317
The Pug-Jack Russell mix eats so loudly it's honestly quite unpleasant, so I'd definitely notice.
>> No. 5320 Anonymous
31st July 2021
Saturday 9:17 pm
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>>5319
Not if they fed them sausages when you weren't home.
>> No. 5321 Anonymous
31st July 2021
Saturday 9:18 pm
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>>5320
So that's why it kept saying "walls".
>> No. 5322 Anonymous
31st July 2021
Saturday 10:01 pm
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>>5320
I don't leave the house.
>> No. 5323 Anonymous
31st July 2021
Saturday 10:53 pm
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>>5321
We'll fucking played.

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>> No. 4831 Anonymous
19th October 2019
Saturday 1:51 am
4831 Aliens
The Area 51 thing was a massive wet fart, but it got me nostalgic for the old days where it wasn't all about chemtrails, Jews being behind 9/11, and flat-earth nonsense. Back then it was believable, grounded stuff like flying saucers and men in black. So let's talk about aliens.

Do you believe in aliens? Do you believe we are visited by aliens? Have you ever seen or encountered any aliens? Does the government know about aliens but cover it up? Did aliens visit and influence our ancestors in the past? Are aliens friendly, benign, or threatening?

Aliens are a very compelling subject. Why is the classic description of a grey so fundamentally creepy? Why have aliens and the things that surround them, UFOs, men in black, become such an ingrained part of modern folklore? Why have they fallen into the background in modern times, to be replaced with anti-intellectual/anti-science conspiracy theories for home schooling bible-bashing wierdos? Is this paradigm shift representative of the cultural era we have moved into?

Aliens.
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>> No. 5308 Anonymous
9th June 2021
Wednesday 10:45 pm
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>>5303 Wasn't there a Raman Spectrometer on Beagle II ?
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Ah, not quite. Blast it with piss^WGamma. Should be able to spot the difference between win-blown rock, CO2 globs and magic mars mushrooms.

The Mössbauer Spectrometer
This would investigate the mineral composition of rocks by irradiating exposed rock surfaces and soil with g-rays emitted by a isotopic source (cobalt-57), and then measuring the spectrum of the g-rays reflected back. In particular, the nature of iron minerals in the pristine interior and weathered surface of rocks would have been compared to determine the oxidising nature of the present atmosphere.
>> No. 5310 Anonymous
10th June 2021
Thursday 8:09 am
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"Martian Fungus" is all I need to hear to have the plot of a sci-fi horror movie fully mapped out.

The first manned mission to Mars is going to be a disaster. The one we send afterwards to investigate is going to be even worse, it's all so tiresomely predictable, but we'll walk right into it.
>> No. 5311 Anonymous
10th June 2021
Thursday 10:26 am
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>>5310
I think I agree with you actually - many of the first manned missions to Mars are just going to be snuff films.
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10th June 2021
Thursday 10:31 am
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>> No. 5313 Anonymous
10th June 2021
Thursday 12:44 pm
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>>5312
Don't threaten me with a good time Mr Musk.

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>> No. 5244 Anonymous
24th March 2021
Wednesday 1:16 pm
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This has been happening across my connections recently.
apparently others are experiencing difficulty with various Google services, not limited to front of house.

What's going on behind the curtain?
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>> No. 5302 Anonymous
9th June 2021
Wednesday 7:58 pm
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>>5301
Fair warning, if you use 1.1.1.1 then archive.* breaks because the people that run it are idiots.
>> No. 5305 Anonymous
9th June 2021
Wednesday 9:19 pm
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>>5302
If a web page was worth reading in the first place why would it have been deleted?
>> No. 5306 Anonymous
9th June 2021
Wednesday 10:00 pm
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>>5305
Because it wasn't maintained, presumably.
>> No. 5307 Anonymous
9th June 2021
Wednesday 10:25 pm
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>>5305
Have you tried asking fastly? They effectively deleted half the internet yesterday.
>> No. 5309 Anonymous
9th June 2021
Wednesday 10:50 pm
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>>5307
nothing of value was lost, etc.

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>> No. 5227 Anonymous
12th March 2021
Friday 3:19 pm
5227 Renters UBI
The way I see it eventually we probably will see something like a universal basic income but it will intersect with the time when property prices become truly unaffordable for anyone but the very wealthy. At that point you will have a system where a class of landlords are being propped up by public money and funded by the renters - who need jobs because the UBI will all go on rent because of demand. Perhaps rents will even exceed UBI in some areas.

Sure you might still be able to live in crowded or dilapidated homes but it will be an impoverished existence that will keep those working who have the limited skills not taken by automation as the landed get richer and richer.

This is something somewhat highlighted when you first saw UBI as an idea take hold around 2016, a blog from Shelter notes that it's simplicity is bloody terrible when it concerns the housing market because costs of living differ and many households - single parents or large families - would be disadvantaged. To make matters worse the solutions can prove impractical because there would always be a period of residency involved to a local rate and that will have to account for the fact that rental contract usually span a mere 6 months:
https://blog.shelter.org.uk/2016/04/what-could-a-citizens-income-do-for-the-housing-crisis/

Are we fucked? Posted in /boo/ because I think this one might be true.

>I will just move somewhere else, like Ireland or Australia!

If you've spent any time on international websites you will notice that being priced out of ever owning a home is global phenomenon. There's no escape unless you can make do in a rural setting away from jobs and services.
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>> No. 5282 Anonymous
19th April 2021
Monday 5:08 pm
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>>5280

I am not comfortable with a shitposting Chancellor.
>> No. 5283 Anonymous
19th April 2021
Monday 6:16 pm
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>>5281
>the "trust" that comes with having all transactions hashed (at the low low cost of country-sized electricity bills)
You must know that isn't true, so why are you saying it?
>> No. 5284 Anonymous
19th April 2021
Monday 6:38 pm
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>>5283
The claim that bitcoin mining uses more electricity than Ireland, Argentina, Denmark, Ruritania, etc. is an incredibly common one with at least some evidence to support it. I assume that most people will be familiar with such claims, which makes it a good area to get in a small joke while working towards two separate points: absent a distributed ledger like cryptocurrency, it's hard to see what advantage a digital currency offers over pounds, but with a distributed ledger you're introducing pointless inefficiency to transactions for little obvious reason. ("Trust", but the BoE is already trustworthy.)

I'm sure the point you wanted to make (unless you just dispute the energy use of bitcoin) is that other cryptocurrency options are far more efficient than Bitcoin so it's unfair to imply that they'd use similar amounts of energy, but it's hard to imagine any of them get it down as low per transaction as traditional digital banking. Whether the energy used is likely to be country-sized or simply "a bit inefficient" is ultimately irrelevant to the point either way, so it's a good place to throw in a quick joke that plays up wastefulness.
>> No. 5285 Anonymous
20th April 2021
Tuesday 12:40 am
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I will admit that it has occurred to me that with house prices the way they are, and with government policy openly insistent on keeping them that way, we are now a nation of rich ballers with 50 grand in the bank that we refuse to spend because we're saving it up for a house. If you can persuade people to invest these collective millions in the economy, you can do great things with the economy while simultaneously getting your dick sucked by seedy private landlord scum. But cryptocurrency investments piss all over normal investments, at least at the moment, so vast amounts of this country's money are being spunked into magic cash-numbers instead of job creation and wealth creation and shit you can put on your manifesto. My God; it's almost like they know they're fucking hopeless at this.

So they want to jump on the cryptocurrency bandwagon. Sorry if any of this doesn't make sense; I went to the pub so I could get coofed on and die from coronavirus and now I am heroically inebriated ayyyyyyyyy
>> No. 5286 Anonymous
20th April 2021
Tuesday 5:13 pm
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>>5228
Go the whole hog and extend right to buy to private rents

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>> No. 5062 Anonymous
31st October 2020
Saturday 4:01 pm
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>How corporations can delete your existence

>Let’s call her Laura. In September, Laura was out in Leeds City Centre, buying some bits, when her card was declined. Funny, she thought. She definitely wasn’t in the red. But these things happen, so she left the shop, tinting crimson, and dashed towards the nearest cashpoint. But her card wouldn’t work at the cashpoint either. She tried another one. With the same result. Laura opened the banking app on her phone. It said only ‘error’, then automatically closed. She finally abandoned her shopping and went into the nearest branch of Santander. There, the counter assistant seemed just as mystified. After about an hour of waiting, though, Laura was called through into the manager’s office.

>“I’m going to read a statement out for you,” the manager said. “But I’m not going to be able to answer any of your questions after that. We have locked your bank account. We can’t give you any more information. We might be in touch in future with more information. But we don’t know when that might be.”

>Could she have her money? No. But how was she supposed to get home? After all, she lived eight miles outside of Leeds, and now she had no bus fare. Apparently, this was not the bank’s business. This low-rent version of The Trial went on for another three weeks. Frequently, Laura would phone up Santander customer services. She’d be put on hold for ages. Then the phone would just go dead. She wrote to Santander to complain. They wrote back: they weren’t interested in her complaint and wouldn’t be taking it any further. Meanwhile, her rent, standing orders and Direct Debits stacked up, the late fees and penalties mushroomed around them, as life tumbled towards chaos.

>Nearly a month on, she received a letter from Santander: Under the terms and conditions… we can withdraw banking facilities at any time, and in line with company policy we don’t give further details.

>The account had been closed. Without apparent irony, the balance had been appended as a cheque.

https://unherd.com/2020/10/how-corporations-can-delete-your-existence/

Reading that was quite unsettling. What is going to be the impact of unpersoning in a society that is increasingly cashless and driven by online transactions?
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>> No. 5076 Anonymous
31st October 2020
Saturday 6:15 pm
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>>5073
>They tied together two of my company accounts and a personal one

They're totally allowed to do that, unless those company accounts are Limited Company accounts. You just didn't read the T&Cs. In the context of an individual person, account means nothing. A limited company is like a person in its own right, separate from you.

Don't keep your nazi contributions in any bank account, or any financial institution or electronic money company that talks to CIFAS (protip: everyone does). That includes PayPal. I bet in this Laura Towler case it was PayPal donations that did her.
>> No. 5079 Anonymous
31st October 2020
Saturday 6:22 pm
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>>5076
And you lot say crypto has no valid use cases.

Bitcoin, the Nazi bank.
>> No. 5080 Anonymous
31st October 2020
Saturday 6:24 pm
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Should opt to be paid in gay wedding cakes and sell those on. Let's see bankers put that in their pipe and smoke it.
>> No. 5081 Anonymous
31st October 2020
Saturday 6:28 pm
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>>5076 They are indeed limited companies. They apologised. I didn't ask for the accounts to be linked in any way - the second company's account details suddenly became accessed from the first company's login page, along with my personal account. And then they did the cross-payment thing.
The same two people had login rights for both accounts, but combining companies did seem like a dodgy optimisation.
>> No. 5083 Anonymous
31st October 2020
Saturday 6:45 pm
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>>5081
If that's the case, then you should complain to the Financial Ombudsman - again, banks don't want the grief of dealing with regulators, so a complaint to them will almost always find in your favour if you have an actual case. It takes about 90 days, but if they've genuinely fucked up and cost you money, you will get it back.

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>> No. 4976 Anonymous
5th August 2020
Wednesday 3:34 pm
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Apparently a fireworks factory in Beirut has exploded. The videos are incredible.
A fireworks factory is pretty much projectile manufacture, ie bullets and munitions.
Is it a supply chain attack?

(A good day to you Sir!)
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>> No. 4977 Anonymous
5th August 2020
Wednesday 4:44 pm
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>>4976
What the actual fuck are you even talking about. There is a thread in /news/ that shows pictures of the place that blew up.

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