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|>>|| No. 24266
Jesus Christ I am having a fucking hard time at the moment...
My fucking bitch of a girlfriend came round to my place the other day and went mad raging because the laplander in the shop wouldn't let her use her card and made her get cash out instead. So then we went back to what USED to be my place and she continued raging shouting at the top of her voice about the laplander. The fucking thing is my neighbours just so happen to be of that race.
Next thing the fucking landlord comes round and says that there has been a complaint about her and that we need to keep it down. After this we go to the kitchen and start cooking, and some black guy that lives in the next room comes in and he's all like "hey girl" which pissed me off no end. Fucking thing is though, he is massive. So I do my best to defend my position but ended up getting knocked the fuck out and thrown down the stairs. All the while this bitch is standing there loving seeing two blokes argue over her.
Anyway, the landlord came again and fucking evicted me. Then she fucking left me stranded and refused to let me into her place. Since then I have been sleeping rough and I do not have a clue what to do. I've lost my phone, I've developed a huge alcohol problem and I don't even know what to do about any of it. Sorry for repeating myself I'm on a bit of a rant.
Has anyone got any suggestions?
|>>|| No. 24271
Sutton, Surrey actually... I thought this was /emo/ why are you belittling me?
|>>|| No. 24273
Because who goes mental about having to use cash? And who refers to someone they live with as "some black bloke"? And what the fuck does "defend my position" mean? Then you get thrown down some stairs for doing so?
I don't know man, this sounds like complete nonsense to me.
|>>|| No. 24274
Anyway, I am fucking going to steal as much alcohol as possible. What is the worst that can happen? Get arrested and get some free food?
I thought that the internet would actually help me for once...
|>>|| No. 24275
Are you dumb m9? It was a bed and breakfast, and this cunt comes in chatting my bird up. What would you do? get cuckolded?
|>>|| No. 24276
And yeah when the cash machine is half a mile down the bloody road, and you have every right to use your card, who goes mental? I bloody would.
Look I came here for some helpful input but clearly I've met the biggest twat on the internet. I'm glad I only have 4 minutes left..... FFS!!
|>>|| No. 24277
It's 2017 mate, don't you think women are able to decide for themselves who they want to sleep with?
Anyway not him, the screen shot has convinced me your ridiculous story might be genuine, but fucked if I know what you're supposed to do. I suggest first order of business is getting you off the streets. Contact Shelter.
|>>|| No. 24278
>My fucking bitch of a girlfriend came round to my place
>then we went back to what USED to be my place
>Next thing the fucking landlord comes round
>It was a bed and breakfast
What? A B&B is a hotel.
>Anyway, the landlord came again and fucking evicted me. Then she fucking left me stranded and refused to let me into her place.
What? You wanted the landlord to take you into her own home? Or are you talking about your girlfriend?
Your post really is on another level of ramble. Are you drunk right now? Get rid of the sauce, things won't improve for you until they do.
|>>|| No. 24279
If your "girlfriend" will cuckold you simply because someone else tries to chat her up then maybe she's not your girlfriend.
|>>|| No. 24280
Go to a laplanderstani igloo and tell them that you have nowhere to go and you want to convert. They will let you sleep in the igloo and teach you their religion.
|>>|| No. 24281
Call the Shelter Housing Advice Line on 0808 800 4444.
Also, avoid mental slags.
|>>|| No. 24282
Could we have this post stickied? I feel this is sound advice, applicable to many /emo/ threads.
|>>|| No. 24283
I can't help but think a general post would be useful. Shelter, Samaritans, etc.
Along with a general caution against being a bellend.
|>>|| No. 24286
To be honest I was just going for comic effect with my suggestion. This is mainly because most problems in my life could have been fixed by calling Shelter and avoiding mental slags.
|>>|| No. 24287
Here's a draft. Does anyone have any suggestions?
If you're in a crisis:
Samaritans: 116 123 (24 hrs)
CALM: 0800 585858 (5pm - midnight)
If you need advice on accessing treatment and support:
MIND: 0300 123 3393 (9am - 6pm weekdays)
SANE: 0300 304 7000 (4:30pm -10:30pm)
Shelter: 0808 800 4444 (8am - 8pm weekdays, 8am - 5pm weekend)
Money, benefits and debt
Citizens Advice Bureau: 03444 111 444 (hours vary by region)
Turn2us (benefits advice): 0808 802 2000 (9am - 8pm weekdays)
National Debtline: 0808 808 4000 (9am - 9pm weekdays)
Drinkline (alcohol): 0300 123 1110 (9am - 8pm weekdays, 11am - 4pm weekends)
Frank (drugs): 0300 123 6600 (24hrs)
Gamcare (gambling): 0808 802 0133 (8am - midnight)
|>>|| No. 24289
Perhaps with a brief note that if you ever feel you have no choice but to kill yourself, that a good rule of thumb is to wait a week before taking any action? Might be a bit much, but it got me through some tough times. And will again in the future.
|>>|| No. 24290
>>24275 Sounds like getting cuckolded would do you a favour. She sounds like a hysterical, racist twat who just got you evicted and won't even help you out of this situation even though it's her fault.
|>>|| No. 24291
>Does anyone have any suggestions?
You left out the most important information from the orginal post.
avoid mental slags.
|>>|| No. 24292
> Drinkline (alcohol): 0300 123 1110 (9am - 8pm weekdays, 11am - 4pm weekends)
It troubles me that no true alcoholic would ever be awake and functioning at a suitable time to use this number .
|>>|| No. 24324
Well I am still alive.
The council are refusing to help me and I have had to put in an appeal, which I apparently have to wait a few days to receive a decision.
I've been trying to avoid the mental slag, but she came looking for me the other day at a place where I was sleeping. I stayed at hers for one night and she very nicely kicked me out the next day. This is all really starting to get to me now I do not have a clue what to do.
I stayed at my mums on her floor last night, and she put me out this morning after causing a massive argument. I don't know where to turn next and it's pissing it down with rain.
|>>|| No. 24325
Get back on to Shelter and ask about hostels and nightshelters. At the very least, you should be able to get a hot meal and somewhere to kip.
|>>|| No. 24327
Thanks for the advice bit let it be known that shelter are fucking useless. All they did was offer to send some outreach people to me to confirm that I was sleeping rough. I mean what fucking good is that?
Anyway I already knew how to get hot food. That is actually a very easy. Clothes too and tents. But as far as housing goes you are fucked.
Anyway my plan is that my mum is taking me to get sectioned at the hospital tomorrow as a faster route into housing again. Luckily I am on the sick for mental health problems so we are just going to exaggerate.
|>>|| No. 24328
Guess what? I I actually did manage to get sectioned! Plan success. Only 5 patients including me and they seem more sane than some people I know! I I've got net from a guys hotspot. It's like luxury accommodation here man seriously much better than a normal ward! The I'll update soon. Too medicated atm.
|>>|| No. 24332
It's actually a really nice place. Also they've given me a key worker and they are sorting my housing out. They are detoxing me from alcohol and giving me copious amounts of valium. And most importantly I no longer feel hopeless.. I win win.
|>>|| No. 24334
My post just disappeared but I was saying...
I met a police detective sergeant in here who went off his head due to pressures of the job. Also some nutty woman jumped on me me last night begging to go home.
On the plus side they are so much nicer than the normal NHS staff they are really caring and make you as much food as you ask for. And to top it all as much valium as you request. Speaking of which I've just had some so I'll post later if I have net. Now it's just Mr and the sarge telling me very interesting stories about times he's had to watch cp as part of his job. He said the beast porn was worse though...
|>>|| No. 24335
Just don't get too hooked on Valium. I've been through hellish booze withdrawal before that ended with seizures and screaming panic attacks, reputedly benzos are even worse to come off if you get hooked and the effects can last for weeks. Make sure whatever you're on you're tapering off, cliche as it sounds regular exercise does make a fantastic gradual replacement while you're getting your head together. All the best lad.
|>>|| No. 24336
>Just don't get too hooked on Valium.
Seriously. Booze is insidious because it's everywhere, but you get a hangover as payment for your overindulgence. Benzos tend to leave you feeling fine the next day (or even give you an "afterglow"), despite providing a relatively similar depressant high; it should be fairly obvious how dangerously addictive this is. Benzos are brutal to kick once you've got a taste, the half-life of the chemical means that coming off a habit means sleepless weeks of feeling like you're going to burst with anxiety and dread. Don't tread that path. Use the valium to get off the booze, then taper off the valium fucking ASAP.
Good luck, anyway. It sounds like you're getting the help you need, which is a rare and beautiful thing these days. Make the most of it. Stay strong.
|>>|| No. 24338
Well it isn't turning out very fun now as I have been placed on a ward with the fucking really crazy people. Everything and I mean everything is locked, even down to the cereals. Thank fuck that I am only here for a week for alcohol detox.
I am not allowed outside. My girlfriend came here yesterday, at least she can't get me kicked out of here lol. It was such a relief to see her though.
I almost couldn't get on .gs as it's blocked but being a bit computer savvy I worked out how to get around it, or I really would have gone insane.
Best bit of news is that my housing worker phoned me yesterday and said that due to the situation that they are now going to house me, so my plan worked!!!
|>>|| No. 24339
OP here just referring to this post that I made... The fucking staff on the normal mental health wards are absolute cunts compared to the ones that are on admissions.
|>>|| No. 24340
Keep your head down, try not to interact with your fellow crazies too much or get involved in their problems, and obey the staff no matter how ridiculous or demeaning their behaviour, and do not rise to their bait. Mental health nurses on inpatient duty frequently go on power trips and half of them are actually as deranged as the patients, but unfortunately for you they are in charge for the brief time you will be there.
|>>|| No. 24342
On a side note, you get much more food than on a normal NHS ward.
Computer access ends at 8:30.
Does anyone think this would be a good opportunity for a thread about the experience from inside a mental inpatient unit from the point as someone who is actually sane?
It was actually a plan to get in here and I lied my way in purely to sort out my housing situation and it's working so far.
|>>|| No. 24343
I can think of many words to describe you, but "sane" isn't one that comes to mind.
|>>|| No. 24344
So, what exactly is insane about me? I am having some problems currently but I don't think that that makes me insane m9.
At least I've got shit dealt with and found a solution. I have been sane enough to do that.
|>>|| No. 24345
Having a delusion with its own internal coherence =/= sanity. The psychotic are an incredibly logical bunch (quite separate from rationality).
|>>|| No. 24348
What are your plans once this current situation is dealt with, and you've got somewhere stable to live?
Are you planning to get into work? I found (note: depression, not... some sort of mania...?), that having a routine that *must* be followed, of being out the house 9-5, helped me immensely. It's an anchor to structure your life around, you get paid, and you end up spending hours of the day near normal people. Some of which rubs off on you.
Do you also have a plan for dealing with the unnecessary drama in your life? Is your mum on-side, or is that bridge burnt?
|>>|| No. 24349
My plan is firstly to get on DLA benefits as I need to get some sort of base set up and then I want to get back to work. I'm a web developer/programmer so hopefully I should be able to find something pretty quick.
I was just wondering, you lot do realize that I told a pack of lies to get in here just as a solution for my housing problem and it worked.
Today they finally allowed me off of the ward as I promised not to drink. And.... Just my fucking luck, I go out for a walk and it starts pissing with rain.
Had a bit of an altercation with some lad last night. He committed a major sin; tried to steal my freshly made cup of tea lol and also my cigarette so I had to firmly shove him away and tell him to fuck off. Been left alone since.
Mainly though, the only drama that I have seen is just your general craziness of loud shouting and screaming. Apparently the "real" nutters are on another ward, which I have been told you get sent to from here if you are classed as uncontrollable.
The whole thing has been quite an interesting experience to say the least. Mostly as I am "normal" in relation to all of those in here.
I still have my anxiety and depression to deal with, but that hasn't caused me major problems as I have been medicated for it for ages. I am just so happy that the housing officer has sorted me out accommodation. She is going to meet me when I get discharged which has helped my state of mind immensely.
If I can offer any more insights, please ask away as it is Sunday and I am bored so am more than happy to write plenty on the subject of NHS nut houses.
One thing I will say is that the facilities are great. There is a main area with drinks and snacks and a fucking projector and cinema screen, a separate TV room (where some old man was watching babe station last night lol), a games area and two gardens.
|>>|| No. 24350
Oh, I also wanted to say it fills me with great happiness even though it's my own thread to see it go from problem to resolution.
|>>|| No. 24352
Well it appears you're having an interesting experience.
You did well getting sectioned I guess, they don't like doing that round my neck of the woods, very hard to get help here by all accounts.
Any idea what sort of housing you will end up in after your stay on the ward? Own flat?
|>>|| No. 24375
I am amazed reading your experience. I work for the NHS and it is my experience that a place in a mental health ward is so rare as to be almost impossible to get. You must have been pretty convincing. I hope you manage to kick the booze and get some accommodation sorted out. The there posters are right about valium. It's a fucker to kick and the withdrawal is one the nastiest experiences I have yet encountered. Good luck.
|>>|| No. 24377
Sorry, I pressed the submit button by accident.
Well, I am still here on this ward. I have been told that as soon as I finish my detox meds then I am out of here. I just wanted to point out that I am not actually sectioned, I am here as a voluntary patient which makes a lot of difference. I am allowed off the ward when I want to. I feel sorry for the poor fuckers that cannot get off.
It has been a real eye opener seeing this environment from the perspective of a relatively sane person.
It's amazing how the council have now magically sorted out my accommodation now that I have been in here so my plan has been successful as far as that is concerned.
Had a very funny experience last night; a eskimo woman was admitted on to the ward and she was pretty much mute. Fuck knows where he got it from but one of the patients went back to his room and came back dressed in full Islamic garb wearing a bandana and scared the shit out of her by following her around the ward. We were up until about 3 am doing this shit.
I will provide some more updates later on. Also, would anyone be interested in a guide on how to get through to housing in the way that I have? I would be very interested in writing one for you guys.
|>>|| No. 24379
That would be good to see, yes please.
Also, what type of accommodation they have found for you too.
Interesting, I am a social work student and have worked closely with NHS mental health teams. I also agree about the how difficult it is getting into psychiatric wards, but every county will be different in that respect I imagine.
|>>|| No. 24380
Well OP is still alive. I am finding this experience more and more bizarre as time goes on. Funnily enough I am actually disappointed to be leaving on Friday, as I am interested in this environment as I studied psychology at A-Level.
So then... What has happened today? Well, the mad burkha wearing guy got sent to "ward 1" which is the intensive care psych unit where they send the uncontrollables. He did what the big Red Indian guy in One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest did and tried to smash his way out of the fire exit which was rather amusing as he was wearing a bin on his head as a disguise as he did so.
Then two guys started fighting over the computer, chasing each other around the ward.
One thing that I have realised is the TRUE state of the NHS and how bad it is. I have pretty much become a fucking honorary member of staff, running around after confused patients and making tea and drinks for those not able to do so, helping less able patients to get their food to their table etc. I'm not doing it to impress, it's just because I am a genuinely altruistic person.
Some fucking nigger has come on to the ward today and thinks he can run the show and has been throwing his weight around. He was the one that started the fight over the computer. He has done himself no favours though, as now pretty much everyone has a dislike for him as he has somehow managed to rub everyone up the wrong way.
On to my housing guide...
I went to the hospital and spoke to some mental health people and told them that I was hearing voices (from outside my head, several of them) and that I was trying to commit suicide by drinking myself senseless on the street trying to induce hypothermia. I sat and acted agitated rocking back and forth, which became quite laborious after a while. I just had to keep stressing that if they let me out I would finish the job.
They offered to place me in an assessment unit, which they said that I really needed. I went there and told the same story and then they placed me on this ward.
Now, when you do this you get allocated a key worker who advocates on your behalf. And BAM as if by magic the housing problem was instantly solved. It seems that if you can get these people to speak on your behalf it carries so much more weight than just yourself presenting at the council.
I am sure I could go in to plenty more detail, but will be happy to answer specific queries if people want to ask me.
One funny thing is that there seem to be plenty of illicit drugs in here, as searching of visitors is lax to say the least.
I am very happy that I have achieved my goal and this will be a story to tell people for many years to come. I almost said a story to tell down the pub, but unfortunately for me, I had a blood test and my liver enzymes were that high off the scale that I was told that if I kept it up for another 6 months I could be dead. So let that be a lesson to you all, as that was only 4 or 5 months of very hard drinking.
I look forward to hearing your questions and seeing your replies.
|>>|| No. 24381
>I'm not doing it to impress, it's just because I am a genuinely altruistic person.
>Some fucking nigger has come on to the ward today...
In all honesty, you seem a bit nuts.
|>>|| No. 24382
What? Nutters can't be bigots? It's like how most high functioning austists are massive racists.
|>>|| No. 24388
Who would like pictures of the ward during daytime hours? I am up late cause the only chance I get to have sane conversation is with the night staff. Plus the ward manager is on nights and she is fit as fuck.
|>>|| No. 24389
Well OP is here for another day on the nutty ward. It's actually pretty chilled out today but we will see what happens later cause the day is still young. Just had a shower and about to have dinner but I have taken some pictures for you guys to see later on.
|>>|| No. 24392
Well I've been let out of the ward for a bit to go and have a fag in peace. Ironically, it was driving me insane in there. There's this nurse that is leaving tomorrow so she is being an absolute bitch. They seem to have a dislike towards me due to the fact that they can't talk down to me because I'm not a mental health patient per se, I'm mainly here for the alcohol detox.
At lunch there was an old lady who was clearly confused and was asking for a drink of water but being ignored. I commented that the staff were lazy bastards and that I would get it for her. I was told to keep my comments to myself to which I replied that they should be getting her a drink and not me. The bitch then told me that she was independent and that the staff are not slaves. I'm not medically qualified at all but she clearly wasn't independent when she is sitting there rocking back and forth talking to herself. She isn't even capable of seating herself for dinner. The whole episode has made me feel quite sad actually it's a fucking shambles.
Anyway, I have had my rant now and smoked a snout in peace so I am going to head back into the maelstrom.
I will post the pics I've taken of the ward later with some more information about the state of the nhs mental health service.
As an aside,last night I asked for a packet of biscuits for us all to have with our tea and they got funny about that and even then brought up bus cut backs. Cut backs over a packet of non brand fucking bourbons and digestive.
|>>|| No. 24393
Well, my mental girlfriend came to see me here. She fucking absolutely loved the place and didn't want to leave after visiting hours. She even said that she felt as though she fitted in here lol.
|>>|| No. 24396
Yeah I was actually thinking about this last night and had some lengthy discussion I think that I may have come to a decision to end things...
Anyway I will give you guys an update on the latest activities later on today...
|>>|| No. 24398
Well it is now dinner time. Went out today for a walk. I will post some of the interesting stuff that has taken place today.
Some woman keeps trying to escape from the ward lol.
|>>|| No. 24405
Read the fucking thread...
Anyway I am getting discharged at one o'clock. Mission complete. They are getting me a cab to the housing and I am getting rehoused. Sweet as...
I will post some stuff from the wifi at the council offices. Pictures and what-not.
|>>|| No. 24406
I think it's clear that yes, he is actually mental. NHS mental units can spot chancers. He will naturally deny it, but one of the things about the insane is that they generally don't realise that they're insane. Someone I knew who used to work in a mental hospital told me about the sort of things people would say to try and get out, and "I lied to get in here" was not uncommon.
|>>|| No. 24407
This. OP seems to be in there far longer than he should be, especially if he is the chancer he claims. People have been sectioned and let out in less time.
Considering OP's general oddness and how often he "laughs out loud", with how long he was kept there (it's already been discussed how limited spaces in these places are), I'm not sure I buy into his psych ward anthropologist routine.
It's probably unwise to encourage this.
|>>|| No. 24408
There is an extraordinary shortage of psych inpatient beds in this country. Every day in every bed is a precious resource. Patients are routinely discharged when they clearly need the bed, simply because someone else needs it more. Either OP is genuinely a fruit loop, or he's making this whole thing up for giggles.
|>>|| No. 24409
The length of time I've been in there?
I was in there for a week... I I'm now in the council offices getting housed. I know insane people claim to be sane but if you read from start to finish its not hard see the story.
|>>|| No. 24411
I generally agree with the thrust of your point mate but a 44 year old experiment done in American mental health institutions can hardly be considered reflective of the modern NHS.
From what I've heard talking to the mental health lot, it's more that they simply don't see much of a practical difference between someone who is desperate enough to lie in order to get themselves sectioned, and someone who is plain old mad.
|>>|| No. 24412
>I generally agree with the thrust of your point mate but a 44 year old experiment done in American mental health institutions can hardly be considered reflective of the modern NHS.
What makes you think methal health has moved on that much in 40 years? obviously neuro science has and generally health care professionals will hide behind standardized self survey questions to make diagnoses to shield from the embarrassment of being 'caught out' (the direct outcome of the Rosenhan experiment).
but neuro-science doesn't tell you why the person with perfectly normal brain activity keeps burning down buildings.
No things are still much in the same spot they were before, diagnosis can only really be performed on 1. those actively seeking a diagnosis or 2. those so deviant from societies norms as to be immediately obvious, There are a lot of people who don't fall into either of those categories that should be diagnosed, and those in 1. that get diagnosed that arguably shouldn't.
|>>|| No. 24413
I'm not reading this trash. Fix it.
It is pretty obvious that you need to get sectioned too.
|>>|| No. 24414
Not him but I agree with just about everything they said - and have had experience working on inpatient wards, to my shame and ultimate discredit. It's a sham, the quack branch of medicine, and hasn't really changed in centuries. Better section me too.
|>>|| No. 24418
>but neuro-science doesn't tell you why the person with perfectly normal brain activity keeps burning down buildings.
I'm reasonably sure it can; and that reason is that they don't actually have perfectly normal brain activity.
|>>|| No. 24420
I studied neuroscience for two years and I don't know what the fuck you're on about.
Normal brain activity? What the hell are you on about?
|>>|| No. 24422
The short answer is yes.
Developmental disorders, and brain damage both result in atypical brain activity.
|>>|| No. 24424
>they don't actually have perfectly normal brain activity
^ That is a meaningless statement. It doesn't even touch on why people "burn down buildings".
>Developmental disorders, and brain damage both result in atypical brain activity.
^ That is too vague to warrant reply.
Overall: in the words of Wolfgang Pauli, you're not even wrong.
|>>|| No. 24425
And everything you said is what I meant when I put "I generally agree". I'm one of those hippies who thinks psychiatry is little more than mere pseudoscience myself, in general.
But again. The staff who work there, like the staff who work in most NHS facilities, tend to be pretty self aware and down to earth about what and why they are doing. They know not everyone inside is mental, but they also know that if you had such a difficult time keeping your shit together that you ended up there, then you might as well be.
|>>|| No. 24426
>Developmental disorders, and brain damage both result in atypical brain activity.
It's called religion m8. Fuck those cloudwogs.
|>>|| No. 24492
Well I've reached my new housing. It's a shitty hostel full of drunks and junkies. Really wise placement by the council considering I've just been I am hospital and completed an alcohol detox.
I've only stayed there for a night so far I've been staying with the girl.
I certainly can't have visitors at this new place as they have a 24 hour manned security desk :( well at least I can't get kicked out cause of visitors any more...
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