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>> No. 4575 Anonymous
31st July 2018
Tuesday 7:00 pm
4575 Low test
The other day a friend suggested I had a testosterone deficiency due to how "soft" I am physically. I looked it up online and it struck a chord. I'm overweight, with fairly pronounced breasts and love handles. Even when I was underweight, my breasts and love handles were always disproportionately large. I've also been comparing myself with other fat men, and my breasts are perkier and more female looking than typical man boobs. So I'm going to go to my doctor and ask for a testosterone test.

Have any of you lot had any success with getting treatment for low testosterone?
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>> No. 4593 Anonymous
4th August 2018
Saturday 8:54 pm
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I don't know about being influenced by Red Pill shite, but the symptoms of low T are about as broad and vague as those for gluten intolerance, which is why it's understandably easy for people to believe they've got it.
>> No. 4594 Anonymous
5th August 2018
Sunday 12:35 am
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>> No. 4598 Anonymous
5th August 2018
Sunday 11:24 am
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Isn't testosterone basically poison? It lowers life expectancy and makes your hair fall out. You might be better off without it.
>> No. 4599 Anonymous
5th August 2018
Sunday 11:40 am
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All in balance with your other hormones. Women have much lower testosterone, but they have other womanly hormones doing womanly things instead. You do supposedly live longer without testosterone but it has plenty of adverse effects on an otherwise healthy male not to have it.

Basically, there's "low testosterone" like in slim effeminate dudes like me- I might not be a muscular 'ard lad but I'm sure to have a full head of hair well into my 60s. And then there's low testosterone like in OP's case where it pretty much deforms you, he should have a much higher amount than he has so he's starting to look like a 1700s opera boy.
>> No. 4600 Anonymous
5th August 2018
Sunday 2:23 pm
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You're thinking of DHT, one of the byproducts of testosterone. Men who take an interest in their hormones generally try to inhibit production of DHT to stop hair loss among other things.

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>> No. 4595 Anonymous
5th August 2018
Sunday 12:59 am
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How to increase weight in an exercise? Just add 5 pounds when you manage to do all the reps?
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>> No. 4596 Anonymous
5th August 2018
Sunday 1:06 am
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u wot
>> No. 4597 Anonymous
5th August 2018
Sunday 1:19 am
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Well...yeah. I'll usually add 10 but honestly 5 is probably more sensible. I like to do reps to failure though so I have a very good sense of my capabilities as it is. I can often tell half way though my first set that I'm going to find it too easy.

>> No. 4568 Anonymous
17th July 2018
Tuesday 4:29 am
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Do you look at pictures of pretty girls before working out to motivate yourself?

(A good day to you Sir!)
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>> No. 4570 Anonymous
17th July 2018
Tuesday 9:24 am
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Cardio is far easier when you've got a good piece of music to keep in time with. Fast, aggressive hip hop seems to keep me going.
>> No. 4571 Anonymous
17th July 2018
Tuesday 10:54 am
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Not really, but I've noticed I seem to push harder when there's a particularly fit woman in my eyeline at the gym. I suppose it makes sense on a base animalistic level, but it's still odd, isn't it?
>> No. 4572 Anonymous
17th July 2018
Tuesday 11:26 am
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is it? I'm not sure why you exercise but for me part of it is to stand a better chance of shagging beautiful women, so being reminded of the end goal is inspiration to keep me going.
>> No. 4573 Anonymous
17th July 2018
Tuesday 2:30 pm
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>> No. 4574 Anonymous
17th July 2018
Tuesday 2:49 pm
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A picture of Ryan Newman when she was 14. I wonder if you're the same OP who was banned twice for posting pictures of that 12-year-old child model on /fit/ (and cross-posting).

>> No. 4540 Anonymous
23rd June 2018
Saturday 9:48 pm
4540 working in the sun
I'm about to have to spend a few days working like a bastard in the sun. Last year, doing the same job, I gave myself quite annoying heatstroke - stopped sweating, started shivering, brain went a bit squiffy and had very annoying muscle cramps the following nights. This happened both days we baled.
So, this year, I'll be drinking much more, but other than that, I can't really see how to make things much better. I can't sanely take breaks or sit under air-con. (Chasing a tractor, making hay while the sun shines, so a lot of throwing bales around, and generally jogging along, doing manual stuff, fixing things that break). I plan to start earlier in the day this time, but that involves getting the other person to get their arse in gear. It's not a given.
So - any hints on avoiding the pain that is heat stroke / heat exhaustion? I'm easily fit enough to do what needs doing, but the heat is a fucker.
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>> No. 4548 Anonymous
1st July 2018
Sunday 10:16 pm
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Keep us posted, Skeptam8.
>> No. 4549 Anonymous
1st July 2018
Sunday 10:35 pm
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I recommend High5 zero tabs, they make water 'more water' . Water is a fucking bastard to carry (1L = 1Kg) and I find the electrolyte tabs make up for more water carried without.
>> No. 4550 Anonymous
1st July 2018
Sunday 11:04 pm
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Evans Cycles are selling the Powerbar versions of these for less than a quid a tube at the moment. Certainly worth it.
>> No. 4551 Anonymous
1st July 2018
Sunday 11:16 pm
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Just looked, out of stock.
>> No. 4552 Anonymous
2nd July 2018
Monday 12:36 am
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Ah, sorry.

Not surprising, I bought about 8 tubes when I saw the price.

>> No. 4538 Anonymous
22nd June 2018
Friday 12:29 pm
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I'm not sure whether to post this here or in emo, because I feel on the brink of just giving up. I don't know how to go on, I'm trying the services but they don't care. I'm desperate.

I am a 26 year old male, I am 10.7st and 5'10. I suffer from extreme health anxiety. It's usually an obsession with cancer. The past 3-4 months I have had a pain in my left hand side, To the left of my belly button.(or 'my' right, looking down). It's a sharp pain, feels quite pinpoint (literally the edge of my belly button moving outwards), but is difficult to recreate by pushing down on the area. I've found it a few times but it's not easy. It seems to come and go, and can sometimes feel more generalised in the area. As if it's spreading outwards. Simply put I am terrified to the point of non function that it is some sort of cancer.

I have no noticeable weight loss, I have not lost my appetite. I have not thrown up. No blood in stool. There is no history of stomach cancer in my family. However I do have Ibs and have been gassy for a while. Stool can be soft/pat like, or sort of rough and jagged. I've been to 3 doctors. All of which looked at my history and rolled their eyes. They all did a feel of the area and said there was nothing abnormal. The last Dr (yesterday) gave me laxitives because she said my colon was very full. But I've had this issue for months, I doubt it has always been.

Mental health is a real issue for me and I have been referred in Jan, but no reply as of yet.

The pain is not getting better. It seemed to dissappear for about a week or 2,but its come back as bas as ever.

I feel so unbelievably unhappy with my life I am worried. I can't sustain this life of worry and depression. I leave my desk at work and cry, I am looking for re assurance. I am begging for it in fact.
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>> No. 4539 Anonymous
22nd June 2018
Friday 6:04 pm
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I'd suggest getting in touch with Anxiety UK. They have a telephone advice line and offer a range of reduced-cost therapy services.


The evidence suggests that good self-help books can be almost as effective as face-to-face therapy. Most local libraries now have a Books on Prescription section, with a selection of self-help books recommended by health professionals. The recommended book for health anxiety is Overcoming Health Anxiety by Rob Wilson and David Veale.


If you're feeling really down, I'd encourage you to call The Samaritans on 116 123. Calls are free on any network and they're available 24/7. You don't have to be suicidal to call - they're ready to listen to whatever you have to say.

>> No. 3653 Anonymous
16th December 2015
Wednesday 5:26 am
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I've just pissed the bed. Proper pissed the bed. I've left my other half, still fast asleep, in pissed soaked sheets while I've slunk off to the living room, wrapped in a blanket and shame.

I didn't drink a great deal yesterday and I went for a wee before going to bed, so I'm not sure what else I can do. I had a dream which I think tied in with me pissing, but I woke up after the event and too late to do anything about it. I've pissed in my sleep before, but it's too infrequent to worry about and is usually such a little dribble that I could lie to myself and say it was spunk; this is the first time I've blasted the bed, and all of my bedclothes, with loads of piss.
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>> No. 3932 Anonymous
20th October 2016
Thursday 6:11 pm
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Best make an appointment at the GP then, hadn't you.
>> No. 3933 Anonymous
20th October 2016
Thursday 7:05 pm
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I pissed in a mates living room earlier this year. I'd been drinking a lot, I was asleep on the sofa and another friend on the floor. I got up in the dark, he asked what I was doing, and apparently I said "not pissing in the river." He thought I was joking, but then I really did start to piss, so he was shouting that I should stop it, and I kept saying "I'm not even pissing," then he shouted our mutual friend and I woke up mid-stream. I tried to do the same thing a couple of months later and found out why you don't wake up sleepwalkers. I started throwing punches at him, don't remember that though (cos I was asleep, obviously) and it turned into a full fight. So I just woke up in the middle of a fight.

Still got the better of him though.

Also, about ten years ago I did it at an ex-girlfriends house, again after a lot of alcohol that evening, but unique to this incident, it was all over he dads clothes which were drying on a clothes horse. He wasn't happy.
>> No. 3935 Anonymous
20th October 2016
Thursday 7:16 pm
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Jokes aside though, the real question you should be asking is why you didn't *at the very least* piss on her tits. I understand that you were asleep, so a proper arse-pissing would be a tricky manoeuvre - but come on.
>> No. 4536 Anonymous
20th June 2018
Wednesday 3:50 am
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It's happened again, the first time in about 20 months.

On this occasion I can't recall what I was dreaming about, so it's not the scenario of what's happened previously where I've pissed in a dream and it's actually happened in real life and I don't think it was preceded by a wet dream either.

I think it's because I didn't go for a wee immediately before going to sleep. Fortunately it was a relatively small trickle, but enough to dampen my bed clothes and the bedsheets a little, as I needed a monster piss when I woke up.
>> No. 4537 Anonymous
20th June 2018
Wednesday 10:03 am
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Is the Mrs into water sports after all that?

>> No. 4514 Anonymous
7th June 2018
Thursday 9:59 pm
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I often get a strong feeling of tightness in the throat after a long day. It's unpleasant and makes it difficult to breathe deeply.

Is there a particular cause for this, or is it just stress and fatigue? Can I somehow minimise it?
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>> No. 4518 Anonymous
8th June 2018
Friday 9:20 am
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Are you sure it's not fruit related? I have a mild allergy to uncooked apples / peaches / nectarines which gives me a sort of weird twinge in the throat.
>> No. 4519 Anonymous
8th June 2018
Friday 10:14 am
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Sounds a lot like asthma to me, OP.
>> No. 4520 Anonymous
8th June 2018
Friday 8:10 pm
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Lifelong asthmatic (diagnosed at nine) and self-inflicted (in late 20s/early 30s) leisure injury inflicted generalized anxiety / panic disorder sufferer here.

Telling the difference between an asthma attack and generalized anxiety is difficult at the best of times; nevermind differentiating between a full blow panic attack and a cardiac event.

One thing I've learned is that if I get up and go for a short walk and do something utterly distracting like phone my totally batty mum who'll fill be ear with who did what with her dustbins like it's a some bin men version of game of thrones makes the symptoms go away then it's likely just anxiety. If that doesn't help it's asthma. This was all stuff I learned while doing CBT to be able to differentiate between "I'm having a panic attack / I'm dying panic more".

Now that I'm fully diagnosed and all I just take a puff on my inhaler, pop a 0.25mg clonazepam wafer under my tongue and play a mobile game until whatever goes away (usually pretty quickly).

Anyway I hope that helps some, despite being a git garbled (I'm currently in the grips of some fever other in the 100-102oF range. I think I'm going to eat some paracetamol and go back to bed. Fuck this.)
>> No. 4521 Anonymous
8th June 2018
Friday 9:36 pm
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Are you sure is not gastric reflux? I had it, and it was a real bitch. Cut down on greasy takeaways and get some Gaviscon
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9th June 2018
Saturday 6:11 pm
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Certain. It's never been a problem for me. I eat clean and my digestion is pretty good -- I've only had heartburn a handful of times in my life.


I try to eat at least one piece of fruit (generally an apple) per day. Thinking back to when I didn't (low carb etc.), I still had similar symptoms -- no noticeable difference. I don't have any allergies I know of.


This is a good shout. My siblings were diagnosed with asthma as kids, and while I did experience some throat/chest tightness, for whatever reason I coped and was never given an inhaler. They also had allergies, where I didn't seem to get the symptoms -- maybe I adapted to dog fur, pollen, whatever.

One thing I did get, though, were persistent throat infections throughout my childhood. It's sometimes hard to tell whether they're inflamed or not, but it's certainly easy to imagine there's a kind of persistent immune reaction going on around my tonsils. As an aside, the infections were something of a blessing as I became obsessed with oral hygiene since. I gargle mouthwash and water once per day. I could experiment with using saltwater or plain water rather than mouthwash... Or I could buy a waterpick and give my tonsils a blast each day.

The most noticeable factor is definitely fatigue and tension. The feeling simply isn't there when I'm well rested. I'm thinking this may a stress and general inflammation type thing -- I think I'll try introducing regular breathing exercises and try to get more kip.
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>> No. 4513 Anonymous
30th May 2018
Wednesday 11:58 pm
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>squat, deadlift, row, bench, curl, OHP, calves
>one set 20 reps each
>2-3 times a week

simple and works

(A good day to you Sir!)

>> No. 4503 Anonymous
28th May 2018
Monday 10:01 pm
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>> No. 4507 Anonymous
29th May 2018
Tuesday 11:43 am
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Or if you do, have a spotter who is actually capable of lifting the weight off you, unlike that one scrawny kid in that video.

Still, this is tame compared to some of the videos I've seen - not a single anal prolapse or knees snapping and bending the wrong way.
>> No. 4508 Anonymous
29th May 2018
Tuesday 11:47 am
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That's exactly what I was hoping for and was thoroughly disappointed. Up your game OP, I could have seen this just by scrolling numbly through Facebook.
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29th May 2018
Tuesday 6:53 pm
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What do you know? There's a website that'll do that for you, because of course there would be.

>> No. 4511 Anonymous
29th May 2018
Tuesday 7:16 pm
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30th May 2018
Wednesday 7:31 pm
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>> No. 4483 Anonymous
8th April 2018
Sunday 11:30 am
4483 Going barefoot - Some thoughts from an armchair anthropologist
This thread isn't meant to be an argument for or against barefoot running or walking, or whatever associated footwear is best.There are already a million and one youtuibe videos, forums posts, blogs etc. all covering the exact same arguments.
I made this thread because of a shower thought I had that I wanted to write down somewhere.

So the preamble; giving people padded heels generally fucks up their posture. You can slouch, your bum sticks out, your shoulders hunch up, you walk by swinging your legs and your head bobs up and down. It's awful and if you start walking like that it takes a lot of effort to retrain yourself to walk upright with a good posture.
When you walk or run barefoot, (or in minimalist shoes which meet all the criteria, and very few truly do), it's nearly impossible to walk with bad posture (at least for any significant distance). You have to forefoot strike, which forces you to walk upright, shoulders back, and you have to use your whole body which means moving your hips and core muscles.
So then, people ask if barefoot is so amazing, why did people ever start to wear modern-style shoes to begin with?
The reasoning that pretty much everyone always makes is along the lines of "it's more comfortable" or "you can run faster and not hurt as much" or things along those lines.
The arguments never quite add up, and this adds fuel to the arguments and cunt-offs that surround the subject.


Finally this leads to the point of this thread. I am a convert to minimalist running and walking, but my argument is nevertheless against it. And as far as I can remember, it's a reason that I haven't seen anywhere else.
The reason that our ancestors started wearing shoes with heels, and partly why people still do today, has little to do with comfort or fashion or sporting performance, even though these are the conscious reasons that everyone believes in.
The real reason:
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>> No. 4486 Anonymous
8th April 2018
Sunday 1:47 pm
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I think our environment has become a lot tamer since the shoe was originally invented in a way that you don't give credit. I go mountaineering and if you attempted some of the stuff I've done barefooted your foot would either get cut off or fall off. To me the necessity of shoes feels self-evident from what I expect of them.

I would have presumed the increased thickness of the heel would have come from a pure mechanical position. either based on that that is the area that would wear down quickest so making it thicker would mean you could go longer without replacing shoes or that if you step on something you put your full weight on your heel so if you don't want things going through the shoe and into your foot you need to make it thicker.
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8th April 2018
Sunday 2:03 pm
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I'm not a shoe historian or whatever but I can imagine the first shoe a hunter-gatherer wanting would just be a leather wrap, essentially - offering a bit of protection but still the 'feel' of the land, which would have been useful.

Thus something like those weird Vibrams would probably be pretty close.

My theory on prominent heels is because they'd have been useful for horseback riding, to keep your feet in stirrups - so a relatively modern invention, but a practical one at first. The fact they make you look taller and the shoes last longer probably helped make them the status quo, rather than people wanting that 16th century shwagga.
>> No. 4489 Anonymous
8th April 2018
Sunday 2:06 pm
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It's amazing how hard wearing your feet get if you let them - I've worked on my feet for most of my life, in shite, tough boots, so my feet are hard as fuck on the bottom. I actually can stand on glass without it piercing my foot, so I can only imagine what someone who goes barefoot running or indeed the tribal folk who have never worn shoes must be able to handle.
>> No. 4490 Anonymous
12th April 2018
Thursday 10:32 pm
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Heh, I've got a pair of those pictured (I use them as slippers). If you can stomach wearing five-fingers in public they might serve, but as comfortable as they are they do look like you wrapped your feet in rags. The "Icon" version, on the other hand, is comparatively stealthy. They look like trainers at the front (give or take being thin material, so if you wiggle your toes you can see it). I've worn the latter in public and have not yet drawn any comments from friends and colleagues.
>> No. 4491 Anonymous
13th April 2018
Friday 8:04 am
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I use them for the gym mostly because it's nice to have something I can actually fold away into my bag.

I don't really mind how they look, I have the all black ones so they sort of blend in. They're fucking expensive, mind.

>> No. 4443 Anonymous
3rd January 2018
Wednesday 9:32 pm
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>squat twice a week
>3x20 with 1 min rest between sets
>about 50% 1RM
>massive pump and breathlessness

Will this make my legs grow + get fit?
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>> No. 4446 Anonymous
4th January 2018
Thursday 12:26 am
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>squat-heavy exercise regimens are promoted by bumders

You can tell by the mirror gazers at your average gym weights section that most of it is taken up by bumders. It is one of their conspiracies to try and make you join I think.
>> No. 4473 Anonymous
19th March 2018
Monday 8:31 pm
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>> No. 4474 Anonymous
19th March 2018
Monday 9:48 pm
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A lot of threads on /fat/ seem to start with "I'm doing x, will it help y?" and I'm left wondering where x came from in the first place.

The short answer is yes, OP, doing frequent challenging leg exercises will probably make your lower body muscles grow. Is it the ideal way to do it? I don't know, but if you do it consistently over a long period of time you're likely to get bigger legs.

Interestingly Stan Efferding talks about doing 20 rep sets for other reasons. Something about the hormone response, or cellular response, or oxygen debt from the extreme demands of getting to that 20th rep... I'll have to look it up.
>> No. 4475 Anonymous
19th March 2018
Monday 9:51 pm
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Hilarious, but I'm sure his are would look normal again if he cut some weight and started doing some variation.
>> No. 4476 Anonymous
20th March 2018
Tuesday 2:25 am
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They are the weirdest legs I have ever seen.

>> No. 4414 Anonymous
24th December 2017
Sunday 1:50 pm
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I've been doing nowt but moderate weights for the past six months and tried a bit of cardio again today and Jesus Christ lads don't ever stop doing cardio
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>> No. 4455 Anonymous
4th January 2018
Thursday 6:57 pm
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I had a hat but I turned it into a makeshift balaclava, which I suppose could be a way of getting another hat.
>> No. 4456 Anonymous
5th January 2018
Friday 8:47 pm
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If you come into possession of any money, I highly recommend exchanging it for a couple of Buffs® (or the dirt cheap unbranded ones you can get off Ebay or shops like trespass.)
You can squash them down to nothing in a back pocket, and you've got a hat or scarf whenever you need one.
>> No. 4457 Anonymous
6th January 2018
Saturday 11:56 am
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>Would earplugs work do you think?

Not him but I find headphones help so yeah. Earmuffs also work and that is one of the reasons they exist.

What is happening is cold air is getting into your ear canal which is covered with sensitive nerve endings and lacks anything in the way of protection from the cold. Combined this leads to a brain-freeze in the ear.
>> No. 4458 Anonymous
6th January 2018
Saturday 2:14 pm
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My problem with running outside is the first twenty minutes. I can do it on a machine, I can establish a nice rhythm, get over that first wheezing bit, and then I'm good for a long time - outside in the cold, it seems to take a lot longer and there is more chance I would give up early on a run.
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4th March 2018
Sunday 11:39 pm
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Well, since posting in this thread 7 weeks ago about getting back on the cardio, I have religiously walked at least 140k steps a week, cut slightly back on the alcohol, logged all my calories eaten and have lost 8 kilos.

>> No. 4470 Anonymous
28th February 2018
Wednesday 3:07 pm
4470 Yoga teacher training
Any thoughts or experiences of yoga teacher training? I'm thinking of doing it as a way of improving my own practice rather than wanting to teach and I've heard it's good for that.
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>> No. 4471 Anonymous
28th February 2018
Wednesday 10:01 pm
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Yes I know some people who have done it and they all did it for that reason - it’s quite hard to make a living at it I understand, so many people give it away for free so as long as that’s what you have in mind I would definitely do it.

>> No. 4464 Anonymous
14th February 2018
Wednesday 6:00 pm
4464 turbo trainers
Do any of you have any experience using turbo trainers?

What are they like?
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>> No. 4465 Anonymous
14th February 2018
Wednesday 6:12 pm
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They're pretty good if you're serious about cycling, though I always think it's better to just get out there on the road. The issue for me was that it was just a bit boring to pedal in front of the telly and that. I'd either rather be at a gym or out in the real world.

Don't get an air resistance one, whatever you do. Fluid or magnetic is what you want. Also keep in mind that you WILL need some sort of fan pointing at you while you're doing it, you'll get incredibly hot very quickly.
>> No. 4466 Anonymous
14th February 2018
Wednesday 6:23 pm
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I used them for years when I was training seriously. They work very well if they're set up properly. They don't feel like real riding, but they're close enough. It's boring as fuck, but it's not too bad if you listen to podcasts or whatever. I made a little desk that clipped onto my handlebars so I could catch up on my reading.

If you use slick tyres, a magnetic or fluid trainer and a concrete floor, they're reasonably quiet. Treaded tyres, a fan-based trainer or a hollow wooden floor will make a right old racket. I preferred the units with continually-variable resistance like the CycleOps Magneto - the ones with a resistance adjustment lever are a bit fiddly for interval training.

You'll probably want to do your turbo sessions in an unheated garage or shed, otherwise you'll boil your arse off. You don't get the cooling effect of the wind on a turbo, so you get hot quickly. You might still want to set up a fan if you tend to run hot. If you sweat heavily you'll want to drape a towel over your frame, otherwise your sweat will rot your paintwork.
>> No. 4467 Anonymous
15th February 2018
Thursday 6:04 pm
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Thanks for the tip. It's for when the weather is poo outside.

Wow I had no idea the sweat would be such a problem.
>> No. 4468 Anonymous
15th February 2018
Thursday 6:16 pm
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I can recommend using TrainerRoad. You'd either need a power meter or a cadence and speed sensor. TrainerRoad have a decent blog and podcast.
>> No. 4469 Anonymous
15th February 2018
Thursday 6:19 pm
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Turbo manufacturers make these thong contraptions to protect your bike, but most people just use an old towel.

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