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>> No. 4012 Anonymous
14th December 2012
Friday 9:36 am
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Stickied
Applying for JSA links
http://pastebin.com/5vJCh4HQ
http://www.urban75.com/Action/Jsa/jsa2.html
Both are a little out of date.
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>> No. 14393 Anonymous
13th April 2022
Wednesday 5:38 pm
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>>14389
Be disabled, then they will hound you to see if you are still disabled instead.

It's not simple to live a life on Bennys like it used to be, when you had to write 2 things in your book and that would do for a fortnight.
>> No. 14394 Anonymous
14th April 2022
Thursday 11:24 am
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Are DLA, JSA, HB etc claims managed by seperate counties? I want to explore moving around the country, settling here and there for a year or two, but my benefits were hard won and I don't really want to go through that again.

FYI I have no intention of using false ID - i realise how suspect the question sounds. Let it be said I'm simply trying to break from my sheltered life and experience more of what the UK has to offer.
>> No. 14395 Anonymous
14th April 2022
Thursday 2:43 pm
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>>14394
Surely you're one of the last holdouts on DLA and will be losing it soon anyway.
>> No. 14396 Anonymous
14th April 2022
Thursday 2:46 pm
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>>14395
Ehhh. PIP:DLA is still lingering at 27:13. Looks like the migration stalled with Covid with more people claiming disability overall.

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>> No. 1795 Anonymous
27th May 2011
Friday 6:32 pm
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ITT: Workplace annoyances.

I'll get the ball rolling - having to bring in pastries on your birthday. I know it's cheaper if people bring their own in on their birthday instead of chipping in every time someone in the office has a birthday, but it's still fucking annoying having to fork out on your birthday.
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>> No. 14542 Anonymous
17th July 2022
Sunday 1:20 pm
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You see. Fallen right for the bourgie divide and rule, haven't you, given them exactly what they wanted. Worker arguing with his fellow worker about who works hardest.

I hate that "cuck" is such a loaded 4channer term by now, because it's the prefect description for people of this mindset. They think that if they can get on The Man's good side they will be rewarded, but they're too busy trying to impress him to notice his cock tastes distinctly of their wife's fanny.
>> No. 14543 Anonymous
17th July 2022
Sunday 1:31 pm
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>>14542
If one side isn't pulling their weight then it absolutely is something to get offended about, we know what we're going to do with you lumpenproletariat when the revolution comes.
>> No. 14544 Anonymous
17th July 2022
Sunday 10:22 pm
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One of my coworkers, a lad in his mid-40s, just got divorced in March after twelve years of what he now calls an "unloving and joyless marriage for half of that time". Fair enough. The marriage was childless because his wife was barren turned out to be infertile, and they never got around to adopting a child because of their busy careers and lifestyles.

So he is now living the carefree bachelor life. And that's what's a bit annoying about him, because he is acting like some mid-20s late adolescent party animal. I'm not saying he's insufferable, but it gets kind of demamding because he always asks everybody if they want to "hit the pubs" at the weekend, and he can't shut up about women he finds attractive, and that's not even mentioning his newfound predilection for bawdy jokes.

I guess that's just what a midlife crisis mixed with the relief of leaving a dead marriage behind looks like, and in a way I'm happy for him, and he is good fun on an average day. But he is laying it on a bit thick lately.
>> No. 14545 Anonymous
5th August 2022
Friday 12:31 pm
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Yesterday I popped out to the shops until almost 11, spoke with one client on the phone and spent the rest of the day either watching The Office or playing Football Manager. This morning I've mainly done housework, sent exactly two emails and left a few voicemail with clients. I've just launched Football Manager again and I'm not going to do anything for the rest of the day unless someone gets in touch with me.

I really feel like I should be doing more, but I have no drive whatsoever to do anything.
>> No. 14546 Anonymous
7th August 2022
Sunday 8:39 am
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>>14544

I'd suggest cutting him a bit of slack. Divorce is difficult for the best of us, and if the worst that happens to this lad is that he overcompensates a bit, then he's probably on the more favourable end of the potential psychological effects. It's also possible he's trying to rebuild his social life after the typical stagnation that happens for married men.

If the pestering gets too much you can always gently let him down in a way that doesn't hurt by implying you can't go out on the lash because "can't keep up with him" and his exuberant new self.

If you do really care, as well, it might be worth keeping an eye on how his work is going and whether he's not hiding any bad habits. Right after a massive relationship ending is a very high risk period for addiction and suicide in blokes.

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>> No. 14457 Anonymous
13th June 2022
Monday 12:19 am
14457 Strike action
The news keeps talking about the impending big train strike, and the economic landscape looks like a fertile place to give rise to many more strikes in future. So I'm going to start a thread for assorted strikes now, and assume everything's going to go full 1970s very shortly.

Here's a link saying the government will allow agency workers to replace rail workers if the rail workers will go on strike: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-61773437

I assume the general britfa.gs attitude to union action will be largely positive. But train companies are wankers. The striking workers are already very well-paid, and if the bosses surrender to all their demands (hurray), then that won't mean less money for shareholders; it will just mean higher ticket prices because trains are still a monopoly and they can charge the rest of us whatever they want (booo). So I am less supportive of this strike than I would be of, say, Amazon or Uber or Deliveroo. I'd love to see all the train companies be nationalised, but that wouldn't stop the workers from striking, and they might even strike even more since they would then be the entire rail network.

Are either of you planning any strikes?
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>> No. 14515 Anonymous
24th June 2022
Friday 12:53 am
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Someone like him as Labour leader would be amazing.
>> No. 14516 Anonymous
24th June 2022
Friday 2:46 am
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>>14513

lalala I don't like when reality doesn't match my ideology so I'll just pretend
>> No. 14517 Anonymous
24th June 2022
Friday 3:50 am
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>Neither the decision to withdraw the stock nor the failure to deliver replacement stock has anything to do with the DfT.
Nonsense. It was within DfT's gift to allow them to keep running until the replacements were ready. The 455s on SWR have been refitted and will be running for anything up to a decade.

>455 diagrams are currently being filled by 377s.
... which takes them away from their own services. Lots of services being removed or curtailed from 8 to 4 cars. Which Southern couldn't do without DfT approval.
>> No. 14518 Anonymous
24th June 2022
Friday 3:52 am
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Beeching envisioned a lot of those lightly-used services being replaced with buses. Obviously, that didn't end up happening.

FWIW, general consensus among industry types that want to improve transport is that a simple "reverse Beeching" probably isn't the best way to go in most cases. Lots of places are genuinely too small for a rail connection, and extra stops need to be factored into timetabling through services on a mixed-traffic line. A useful rule of thumb here has come from the Scottish Greens, who suggest that nowhere bigger than 5k should be without.

FWIW, London demonstrates a good case of integrated transport at work, where in the outer boroughs you have bus services that will take you to rail and tube stations. This is something that's lacking in the rest of the country outside of a town's main station having a bus interchange nearby.

If nobody wants to drop a thousand or so new homes near your village, then the very least it should expect is a bus to a nearby station on the line so you might have, say, a 5-10 minute bus connecting into a 10-15 minute train service, instead of an hour-long ride on the bus getting stuck in suburban traffic. Depending on the lay of the land locally, it might be your village that gets the station that people in adjacent villages on the line might travel in to.
>> No. 14519 Anonymous
29th June 2022
Wednesday 11:17 pm
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>British postal workers, train station staff vote to strike

>British postal workers and train station staff have voted in favour of strike action, their trade unions said on Wednesday, as workers across the economy grapple with employers as surging inflation bites. The Unite union said around 2,400 managers across 1,000 Royal Mail (RMG.L) delivery offices had voted to strike in a dispute over job cuts, pay and working conditions, and said it would announce strike dates in the coming days.

>"Our members have had enough," Mike Eatwell, Unite national officer with responsibility for the Royal Mail postal group, said in a statement. "Senior management at Royal Mail has lost the support of their own managers and need to reflect carefully on their next steps. They need to come back to the negotiating table with a set of constructive proposals, otherwise strike action will go ahead causing chaos to letter and parcel deliveries across the UK." Another union representing staff at Royal Mail are also balloting their members for action.

>Further disruption on the railways is set to follow. The TSSA union said on Wednesday its members in train station roles at Avanti West Coast, which operates passenger services including from London Euston to Birmingham, Manchester and Glasgow, had voted overwhelmingly for strike action. "The ballot result at Avanti is only the beginning. Our union is balloting members across almost another dozen train companies and Network Rail," TSSA General Secretary Manuel Cortes said. "If they had any sense they would come to the table and sort this out, so we have a fair settlement for workers."
https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/british-postal-workers-train-station-staff-vote-strike-2022-06-29/

This is the perfect time to promise to send a package only for it to sit on a table for 2 weeks.

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>> No. 14446 Anonymous
9th June 2022
Thursday 4:02 pm
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Have you ever done corporate L&D training that was worth your time? What was it? I'm being pressured to take some but have extremely low bullshit tolerance.

There's something fascinating about corporate memes. I imagine the people that make them only receive approval in the workplace which shapes their view of what is good.
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>> No. 14447 Anonymous
9th June 2022
Thursday 6:31 pm
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What's L&D? I went on a course once for work and that was very useful. However, I didn't do the exam at the end because everyone else had already failed or given up by that point, and also, it might not be L&D.
>> No. 14448 Anonymous
9th June 2022
Thursday 8:27 pm
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I went on a weekend course in sales management at my old job, and it was shite. The lad giving it was just barely out of uni and very noticeably lacked real-life experience. All your studied sales lingo is next to meaningless if your job experience so far has largely been inernships and some entry-level position at a hip new startup whose smartphone app is virtually unknown to people outside your bubble.
>> No. 14455 Anonymous
11th June 2022
Saturday 5:41 pm
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>What's L&D?

Leadership & Development. Generally used to refer to management training, but it's been co-opted to just mean "the training bit of HR".

The only good course I have ever done, is Situational Leadership. Use it every day.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Situational_leadership_theory
>> No. 14456 Anonymous
11th June 2022
Saturday 5:48 pm
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>>14455
What the fuck. It's clearly learning and development.

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>> No. 14315 Anonymous
18th February 2022
Friday 7:20 pm
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I've become extremely disillusioned about work. The main reason is just that it takes up too much time for me to do anything I want to with my life. This old article really struck close to home:

https://www.raptitude.com/2010/07/your-lifestyle-has-already-been-designed/

I've tried several approaches to this problem with similarly dead-end results:

1) I used to think that if I just found meaningful enough work that I wouldn't mind spending a lot of time on it. I'm starting to believe that those jobs are either reserved for tiny elite, or your employer will exploit your innate interest with low pay and overwork.
2) Another idea I had was to get to a very high salary and then cut down my hours to part-time, but it seems "part of the design" to not allow this to happen. Such roles also seem vanishingly rare.
3) The extreme option is just to go completely outside the norm, as in living in a commune or with some sort of religious community where I'm given food and a bed for some work. This seems somewhat precarious, but then, so is working.
4) Another extreme would be to plough the maximum of what I earn into something that will pay back without my constant oversight, but I'm genuinely unsure of what options there are here. Become another buy-to-let hopeful?

I'm tired. I used to be able to force myself to work on the (self-?)delusion that it would all be worth it, and one day I'd have all the freedom and autonomy I wanted. Somehow I'd get to a position where I could live off assets or control my own hours. That now seems largely illusory.

Basically: how do I maintain a living wage but not give 40 hours of my week?

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>> No. 14407 Anonymous
19th April 2022
Tuesday 4:03 pm
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>>14405

I have no idea how much traffic 4chan gets, but it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if activity there were monitored by security agencies. For one, even piddly little real life UK groups have been infiltrated by police, so the actual importance doesn't really seem to have much bearing on whether people are willing to sink time and money into surveillance. For two, 4chan has had a disproportionate cultural effect, to the extent that even my mam knows what a "meme" is in this bizarre nightmare world.
>> No. 14408 Anonymous
19th April 2022
Tuesday 4:29 pm
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>>14405

You know how there are places in your city that the pigs know to patrol round more often because there's likely to be a lot of dodgy sorts hanging about there? 4chan is like that for the internet.

I don't think for a minute it's the hackers on steroids scum of den and villiainy it's always made out to be, but when there have been documented cases of high school shooters and chronic wanking lady-stabbers who posted on there and even hinted at their actions, the authorities are bound to keep tabs on it.

Although, if we're going to indulge our tinfoil hat gut feelings, I reckon it's more likely the spooks are the ones who egged those lads on. We know for a fact the CIA/FBI is batshit enough that it literally funds terrorists just so it can arrest them later, you think the US having their own troll farms to shit up /pol/ and influence the online alt-right zeitgeist is far fetched? Or do you think only Russia and China play that game?
>> No. 14409 Anonymous
20th April 2022
Wednesday 1:38 am
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I spend enough time on 4chan that I have noticed, several times, when large numbers of paid users start appearing. There are a few mentally ill posters, but there aren't enough to fully explain when lots of people suddenly support the Chinese government for no reason, or start repeating pro-Russia talking points in a tone that is just slightly insincere, somehow.

I just said you shouldn't look at /g/ because it's nothing but students and hobbyists, nobody there has an actual technology job, they're all insecure about this and that's why they actively discourage anyone from trying to learn or improve, and the only topics ever discussed are brand wars (no knowledge required), open-source obsessiveness (it's free stuff, exactly as a board of terminally unemployed students and NEETs would rely on), politics (it gets everywhere; it's the kudzu weed of discussion), and programming (a very popular hobby, especially among teenagers). Topics like domain registrars, virtualisation, VMware, Plesk vs cPanel, T568a vs T568b cabling, and database administration are all things that would only be discussed by people who have real jobs, and they are all curiously absent from /g/. I don't care if the people desperately insisting that they're really good with Python are glowies or not. It honestly doesn't matter.
>> No. 14410 Anonymous
20th April 2022
Wednesday 11:33 am
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>>14409
>everyone who disagrees with me on my contrarian anime forum is mentally ill or a paid shill, I can tell because of their tone
Come on, lad.
>> No. 14411 Anonymous
20th April 2022
Wednesday 12:19 pm
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>>14410
That's not what he's saying lad.

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>> No. 14353 Anonymous
25th March 2022
Friday 10:06 pm
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If you were a senior manager how would you boost workplace synergies, comradery and sense of belonging? Say you had to plan quarterly away days, what activities would work?

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>> No. 14368 Anonymous
27th March 2022
Sunday 5:47 pm
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Unionisation & decimation.
>> No. 14369 Anonymous
27th March 2022
Sunday 6:02 pm
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>>14365

>"Give yourself permission to relax."

The only appropriate response to that is a massive fart.
>> No. 14370 Anonymous
29th March 2022
Tuesday 5:33 pm
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One hour wanking sessions every day.
>> No. 14371 Anonymous
29th March 2022
Tuesday 7:27 pm
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>>14370
Unfortunately you've transformed your office into the Children of God cult.
>> No. 14372 Anonymous
29th March 2022
Tuesday 8:06 pm
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Daily Two Minutes Hate with films of rival companies.

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>> No. 14288 Anonymous
31st January 2022
Monday 6:52 pm
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I have an interview next monday for an internal promotion. I'm usually quite good at interviews - if I make it to a face to face interview, I typically get the offer. But this time, I'd say that's not very likely. Most, if not all of the other people I know who are going for this position have more industry experience than me, have worked for the company longer, and in closer proximity to the people conducting the hiring.

I'm definitely qualified enough and have bags of relevant experience outside the company, but I know that industry experience will weigh more heavily in the eyes of those making the decision.

Basically I applied for experience and to be seen to be applying, I have no expectations of getting the job. I don't even really want it, I love the job I have now and the money isn't hugely different. I thought that this would at least mean I'd be relaxed about the whole thing, but the reality is I'm nervous as fuck. I have an entire week to go and I already feel sick. I'm not entirely sure why, but I thought that maybe asking for tips in this very specific scenario might help my nerves.

The role is basically what I already do, but more, and I basically know the interview will be almost identical to the one I did for this job, just longer or more specific. I really don't know why I feel so fucking anxious about it.

Failing that, general interview technique thread?
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>> No. 14290 Anonymous
31st January 2022
Monday 7:01 pm
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In your shoes I usually adopt a "fuck it" mindset. If you don't get it it's not a big loss.
>> No. 14292 Anonymous
31st January 2022
Monday 7:13 pm
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>>14289


You might be right that I'm just not relishing failing at an interview, but honestly if I don't succeed it's really just going to be because other people have more experience, which is hardly something I'll feel bad about. Maybe I just want it more than I'm telling myself. Perhaps this is more of an /emo/ thread than a /job/ one.

>>14290

That's exactly what I expected to do. I have no idea why I started to panic when I actually got the interview confirmation.
>> No. 14293 Anonymous
31st January 2022
Monday 7:37 pm
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I don't have much help to offer but whenever I've done internal interviews, it's always been twice as nerve wracking as an interview at a new place.

I had to have an interview with my two most immediate managers for a promotion last year and I was a wreck. Totally bollocksed it. It messed with my head too much going from the usual relatively informal relationship we have to pretending it was all super serious. Still got the job like, the interview was a formality at most, but still. The whole vibe was just too incredibly awkward.

Anyway best of luck m8.
>> No. 14295 Anonymous
31st January 2022
Monday 8:11 pm
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>>14293

>It messed with my head too much going from the usual relatively informal relationship we have to pretending it was all super serious.

I think this may be it. I work, laugh and joke with these people, they're my peers in all but title, so it'll be fucking weird to have to explain to them why I'm good for a job, when they already know exactly who I am and what I can do.

Also, the most important tool in the interview arsenal is embellishing or lying about experiences on the job, which is much harder to do when the interviewers were there with you.
>> No. 14296 Anonymous
31st January 2022
Monday 8:14 pm
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>>14295

Do it anyway. The more obviously stuff they know you can't have been doing the better.

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>> No. 14229 Anonymous
12th January 2022
Wednesday 2:54 pm
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In late November I applied to a competitive job. It had five stages of selection: the application, a video interview, a couple of work tests, and a final interview.

I made it to the final interview. I wasn't selected, but given my good performance, they passed on my details to another related company. This related company e-mailed me with an invitation to apply and to chat with the department director.

After the chat last Friday, they said that putting my CV in was just to have my "information in the system" and "X will get in touch about some logistics next week".

Well, after uploading my CV and a cover letter over the weekend, letting the research director know, X has indeed got back to me with a boilerplate rejection.

As far as I know, the chat went well, my CV is virtually the same one I used for the role with the original company. One of you lads must have done hiring - what in God's fucking name happened here?
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>> No. 14284 Anonymous
30th January 2022
Sunday 9:51 am
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> "must have a CS degree from a good uni"

This would really get my panties in a bunch if I could still bring myself to care about that kind of peacocking. Sure, good education helps and there's no denying that, but particularly once you deal with people who've been 'round the block a few times it becomes increasingly irrelevant. Most of the folks I work with (myself included) have a university degree of some sort, though only maybe 3/4 have one in CS. That said, there are absolutely brilliant folks who have no "formal education" and learned by doing.

Categorically if someone insists a candidate has a university degree, and even more so if it needs to be from a particular institution, when said candidate has several years of industry experience can go sit on it and swivel.
>> No. 14285 Anonymous
30th January 2022
Sunday 7:08 pm
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>>14284
As someone who did a CS BSc at an ex poly and a postgrad research degree at a "good" Russel group uni (where I was involved with some of the undergrad teaching) I'm not convinced that "good" unis are necessarily any better than lower tier unis when it comes to bachelor's degrees.

In my experience it was actually the opposite. The ex poly was more focused on good teaching than research and hired lecturers who were actually interested in teaching and often had plenty of real world experience outside of academia. The Russell group uni had a great reputation for research and as a result hired career researchers who weren't interested in teaching undergrads, and it showed.

>That said, there are absolutely brilliant folks who have no "formal education" and learned by doing.

Nearly all the best CS people I knew in academia were self-taught amateurs before uni who would have gone on to be those people if they hadn't decided to go to uni
>> No. 14286 Anonymous
30th January 2022
Sunday 11:45 pm
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>>14285
>In my experience it was actually the opposite. The ex poly was more focused on good teaching than research and hired lecturers who were actually interested in teaching and often had plenty of real world experience outside of academia. The Russell group uni had a great reputation for research and as a result hired career researchers who weren't interested in teaching undergrads, and it showed.

This is something I noticed from outside of CS. I'd say that even at postgraduate level my experience with a Russell Group university was staff focused on their own work more than the needs of their students which, let's best honest, is what you associate yourself with a Russell Group for. It certainly bears out in the teaching/research ratio expected between the two types of institutions and as a result the kind of staff they attract. I was studying law so my undergraduate had teachers who either worked part-time as solicitors or were former quangos, the result was something that felt much more hands on and probably in line with what the students wanted.

I'm not denying that what you do get with the more top-tier universities is opportunities, there were no career fairs and people coming down from an ivory tower to lecture at my former polytechnic and the library might've well have not existed outside of it's use for printing. Still, it did change my perspective on what a good school even is which like a workplace is more about the people who make it worth getting out of bed for.
>> No. 14287 Anonymous
31st January 2022
Monday 6:15 pm
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>>14273

OP here. My last post regarding this tedious saga: they were nice enough to get back to me to say they'll "keep me in mind for future opportunities and would love to stay connected".

That they replied at all was a pleasant surprise, but time will tell if anything ever actually comes of it.
>> No. 14294 Anonymous
31st January 2022
Monday 7:41 pm
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>>14286
>as a result the kind of staff they attract
I'm not so sure about that one. The academics at lesser universities would relish the opportunity to spend more time working on their own interests and less time teaching A-level standard material to an overburdened classroom. The problem is they can't afford to because they won't get funding for it since all that goes to the universities with a better infrastructure for research already in place.

It's a chicken and egg problem, but we definitely haven't reached an equilibrium where people are choosing to pursue jobs at a university with lower research expectations so they can focus on teaching -- at least not in the hard sciences. There are certainly academics who value teaching, but in my experience nobody seeks a job as a lecturer so that they can be a teacher.

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>> No. 14243 Anonymous
21st January 2022
Friday 9:38 am
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At what point does leaving a job which pays good money and offers a load of benefits become justifiable, in terms of just being fucking sick of it?

I've been in a pretty typical corporate manager-ish type role now for about a year. The pay is fine, and I was lucky to find something with work-from-home flexibility during the pandemic.

At the same time, the company culture is deeply irritating, the work ranges from stressful to tedious to pointless, and I'm not enjoying life at all outside of building up savings. It's also likely they'll try and drag everyone back to the office once it's viable.

I've also apparently been underperforming (due to what I believe to be a genuine lack of guidance), and my annual pay review was essentially a paycut (a <1% rise with over 3% inflation). Overall, I admit that after I finished a big project in November that I've mentally checked out and have been neglecting things here and there. I just want out.

I have some modest savings and a promising interview lined up, as well as a partner whose willing to cover for me while I'm looking. At the same time, I'm wondering whether it's stupid of me to let go of a well-paid job in this context without another offer in hand?

I've arranged a meeting with my manager for next week to let him know I'm resigning, but could possibly swing this into something else if I am making a silly move. Do you lads think I'm making a mistake? Is there a smarter strategy here?
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>> No. 14244 Anonymous
21st January 2022
Friday 9:52 am
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>Is there a smarter strategy here?
Yes. Getting another offer first, but you know that already.

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>> No. 14217 Anonymous
4th January 2022
Tuesday 4:21 pm
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How do I know when I've reached the right balance between money and effort?
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>> No. 14221 Anonymous
4th January 2022
Tuesday 5:36 pm
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>>14217
That might be the most difficult question in the universe to answer. It's very individual. For me, it's all about what do I first think about when I wake up? Am I already gnashing my teeth about who I might deal with, and thinking strongly of a duvet day? Or am I getting up and at them?

I have considered this a lot recently, and have also reach my limit on what constitutes that balance. I quit my job (without having another one lined up) because I thought the balance was out - I'm quite sure I'll find something else. Time will tell - if I'm queueing up at the foodbank in two months time, I was wrong.
>> No. 14222 Anonymous
4th January 2022
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It really depends on what you want. My mum works two days a week, and it pays her bills and has enough left over for the things she enjoys, and enough of a savings account to retire whenever she feels like it. On the other hand, I have a pilot friend who works as much as he's legally allowed, on about 100 grand a year, but because he lives in a giant house, has two posh cars, and so on, he's actually struggling for cash sometimes - and if he lost his job he'd be fucked. If my mum lost hers, she'd basically not notice.
>> No. 14223 Anonymous
4th January 2022
Tuesday 7:10 pm
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>>14219

>Is there anything wrong with just being comfortable?

Nothing at all, in fact I think knowing when you are is a very valuable lesson in life.

A great deal of people simply don't know when to step off the hedonic treadmill, and that's what causes them their greatest misery in life. I'm reaching the age that I see a lot of younger colleagues pass through my place of work, and it always gives me this weird mixture of amusement and resentment hearing them say things like "Oh yeah I mean I'm not planning on being here forever, I can't imagine working a place like THIS all my life". It occurs to me that they've not yet been through whatever it is that teaches you that lesson, and that it's going to sting when they realise they are going to end up working somewhere very much like this all their life; because ultimately, most jobs are a lot of the same old shit.

Finding somewhere you've got the right balance of elements to remain happy is vitally important, and sometimes that means making less money. One day you realise there's no pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, it just goes on and on and on.
>> No. 14224 Anonymous
4th January 2022
Tuesday 9:05 pm
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The question doesn't work because the two things aren't linear. I have a 'cool' career and as a result I work my arse off and get relatively shit pay for it.

What I've instead found is that as you rise the ranks into management you're increasingly not doing [subject] but back end corporate decision making and reporting. The kind of things that you really don't want to do but have to. That's more work than doing the things you're moderately interested in.
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5th January 2022
Wednesday 11:34 pm
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>>14224
I'm the opposite yet similar. I have a cool "career", but mostly sit on my arse yet get paid significantly more than the SA required amount. I'm not management and really don't want to be because, as you say, you stop doing the job and increasingly start having to do glorified paperwork. (Management should be a transparent shit umbrella, so you see the shit but don't have to deal with it.) I didn't "rise into management", I instead rose the "do the job" side of things, though the two get a little fuzzy at this stage. I'd rather go back to previous work[1], but the money is addictive and it fools me into thinking I'd be a fool to quit.

My opinion for >>14217, it's a balance. Do you have a family, do you have a mortgage, do you have other obligations or aspirations? Have you planned for your retirement financially? Sometimes sacrfices have to be made and needs must, and alternatives matter. If you could live your life and retire happy (this is not a given even if you own your property, c.f. fuel poorness in current pensioners).

So the question of balance is one up to you, with a whole lot of variables attached. And there is no right or wrong answer.

1) I used to work for a family company where I could see the daily take-in. They paid me what they could, I biked to work... I couldn't afford shit. Bit different now.

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>> No. 14037 Anonymous
17th September 2021
Friday 6:22 pm
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I graduated from an Oxbridge uni two years ago with a 2.ii after getting mad depressed and smoking zoots constantly, totally squandering my time there.
Been two years and I'm still zooting away my problems, but I'm now a mid-20s zero-CV NEET and have no idea what to do.

How do I achieve a useful career now that I'm post-uni with no work experience, semi poor grades and getting on a bit compared to the fresh 21y/o grads.

Any ideas? Maybe just some spiritual guidance.

Thanks chaps
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>> No. 14055 Anonymous
19th September 2021
Sunday 4:54 pm
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>>14049

Teaching is definitely a possbility. With an ever-increasing gap on his CV, OP will struggle to land a private-sector job worthy of his formal education, but all is not lost if he's still in his mid-20s.

In the mean time, I would go on the lookout for any job at all that gets you out of the house every day and gets you at least a few hundred quid a month. Two years is a long time to not be doing much of anything. It's not just two years of non-existing job experience, but possible employers will also be skeptical if you can just hit the ground running and get back into an everyday work routine from one day to the next.

There are jobs that can ease you back into a daily routine. You could do part-time work delivering food, or some low-level customer phone support. You don't have to work in a warehouse or supermarket.
>> No. 14056 Anonymous
19th September 2021
Sunday 7:27 pm
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There's a whole world of civil service jobs out there with an application process designed to cut out connections. If I remember right sifters and interviewers don't actually see your job history either because they certainly hired me with a year gap. Apply for HEO and at a push SEO unless you have management experience. Pay is shit but you can get a nice/work life balance in a very secure job that looks good on your CV if you ever want to escape, plus you're not selling rubbish to people all day.

If anything the problem we have is that not enough people apply and of those they seem unable to provide answers to the competencies so posts just go unfilled. I don't think it would be wrong if you asked for advice on competencies if you need it. Saged ticked because I don't know if I should be recruiting arse-pissers.
>> No. 14179 Anonymous
22nd November 2021
Monday 12:17 am
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Here's a BBC News link about finding a job:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/explainers-53685650

My personal favourite part, and by favourite I mean I am enormously angry, is when they ask the recruitment consultant, the woman whose job it is to find you a job, the woman who works for the company that actively stands in the way of you finding a job on any job website, for tips on how to get a job, and she says:
>Corinne Mills suggests drawing on your personal network. Friends, family and acquaintances will collectively know hundreds of people, many of whom will be hiring.
So in other words, nepotism. These companies have fucked the job market so that you need to go to them, and when you go to them, they just say "hope you have a relative who can hire you because I ain't doing shit." Recruitment companies are like landlords; parasites who enrich themselves by making society worse. I despise them.
>> No. 14180 Anonymous
22nd November 2021
Monday 9:42 am
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>>14179
It's much cheaper to have a staff referral scheme than to pay 15-25% of the starting salary to a recruiter.
>> No. 14181 Anonymous
24th November 2021
Wednesday 2:00 am
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>>14056
That doesn't explain how I got my first civil service job. My mate helped me fill out the applications. A few days later, I got a call from him saying he couldn't remember what Uni I went to. I told him, and later that day I was invited to an interview.

Reading your post now - I think he might have told his sifter mate to pick out the application that had my Uni on it.

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>> No. 14145 Anonymous
3rd November 2021
Wednesday 10:21 pm
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How feasible is it to make at least 20k a year working for oneself? What kind of skills or business ideas would prove fruitful? I could probably make close to that as a freelance transcriber working from home, but I'm talking about things that are actually reasonably interesting to do and offer some sort of growth or career progression.

I've been working a barely above minimum wage job after a long spell of NEETdom and it has made me realise how precious my time is. I've gotten used to working a regular 9-5, but I would now rather spend those 8 hours working for myself.
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>> No. 14171 Anonymous
10th November 2021
Wednesday 5:39 pm
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>>14169
I'm not him, but I think you're asking two questions there. Could something be done to tax the elites in a way they can't get out of? Sure; of course it could. Will they allow such a thing to happen? Hahaha, lol, and lmao, in that order.
>> No. 14172 Anonymous
10th November 2021
Wednesday 5:47 pm
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I'm not so sure, I think we are going to start seeing a backlash over the nest few years as governments realise their committent to free market liberalism has let individuals and corporations become definitively more powerful than them.

For now the politicians are happy to take their bribes and back room deals, but when it really starts to threaten national interests or security concerns (and therefore, the political establishment's grip on power) I think the pendulum might start swinging back the other way, with governments trying to re-assert authority instead of being pushed aside.
>> No. 14173 Anonymous
10th November 2021
Wednesday 6:43 pm
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>>14172
>I think we are going to start seeing a backlash over the nest few years as governments realise their committent to free market liberalism has let individuals and corporations become definitively more powerful than them.
I get the feeling that some won't realise that they've been feeding the crocodile and will happily continue to do it.
>> No. 14174 Anonymous
10th November 2021
Wednesday 8:23 pm
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>>14172
I think that's already starting to happen. But I suspect it might already be too late. If nobody in the government showed up to work one day, I doubt most people would notice. If Google or Facebook went down for 24 hours, people would be kicking off within the first ten minutes. And if the people had to choose whose side they were on, I can't be certain that more than 50% of people would side with politicians.

Anyway, while a tax on net worth probably wouldn't go anywhere, negative interest rates are very nearly the same thing and they've been proposed a few times.
>> No. 14175 Anonymous
15th November 2021
Monday 10:48 am
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>>14168

If you're still around, software lad, I stuck a temporary email address at the bottom of this post. I was hoping to ask you how you came about finding this niche and if anything similar might apply in my field off .gs.

Not meaning to e-stalk or take up your time, so no worries if you'd rather not, I just thought I'd give it one bump in /*/ and then leave it.

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>> No. 14119 Anonymous
28th October 2021
Thursday 9:35 am
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Good day all.

I have an upcoming interview via Microsoft Teams, I'm frankly new to the whole world of web interviews so I wanted to see if I could get some advice as to how to conduct myself, what I can expect and more importantly how I can be really prepared. The last time I had an interview of any kind was in 2017 so my head was spun for a little bit getting back into the process of preparing my material for this stuff.

I have a work laptop with Teams already on it (it's not a program that I've used before) and a headset, I guess I'll have to do a test call on it to make sure everything sounds and looks okay.

The actual role knowledge is all on me but if anyone can provide some advice on things I should know, who have done this before, would be greatly appreciated.
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>> No. 14125 Anonymous
28th October 2021
Thursday 2:16 pm
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>>14124
ha, no. I'm not the phantom echoer, that's the two muppets in adjacent cubicles in another building (continent). My audio is peerless.
I suspect the 4 foot separation between speakers and mic helps, as does the carefully arranged anechoic arrangement of crap filling my office.
I have no doubt that Nigel is a poorly endowed prick though.
>> No. 14126 Anonymous
28th October 2021
Thursday 2:21 pm
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>>14125

Either you're causing an echo, or you're causing everyone's audio to be really choppy because of the echo cancellation cutting in and out.

Just buy some headphones, Nige.
>> No. 14127 Anonymous
28th October 2021
Thursday 3:05 pm
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>>14126
I work in a team which includes several engineers who have spent years fighting echo cancellation problems in conferencing systems. If my mic was pissing them off, I would hear about it instantly.
Teams may be wretched in many ways, but on the machines we use, it does echo and background noise cancellation tolerably. That said, my Thinkpad is about to be refreshed by something from Dell, so I imagine it'll all go to crap and I'll have to go back to headsets.
>> No. 14128 Anonymous
28th October 2021
Thursday 3:06 pm
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>>14126
Also, I live on mute, as I'm not a cunt and I often have nothing to say.
>> No. 14129 Anonymous
29th October 2021
Friday 2:19 pm
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>>14121

Thanks for the tips.

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>> No. 14114 Anonymous
25th October 2021
Monday 7:14 pm
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Do you lads keep up with news in your industry at all? I feel like a bit of a dipshit as I've missed huge developments in the NHS and private healthcare/research since COVID-19.

Aside from maybe renewing my FT subscription, is there anything else I can do to keep on top of things?
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>> No. 14115 Anonymous
25th October 2021
Monday 7:58 pm
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What I do is when I'm slacking off at work I go and waste time on the internet. I'm guilty of posting here now that I work from home but in the beforetime I would browse industry websites and various philosophical think pieces about life that I could get away with at work.

I don't see why FT would give you this, do they have a section on it?
>> No. 14116 Anonymous
25th October 2021
Monday 8:43 pm
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My work is very weird, in that it seems to be being run with the explicit aim of making sure nobody ever has to do any work. I come here to complain about the twats who do nothing quite often, but whenever I'm busy, this seems to be a great affront to the corporate philosophy, like I'm not supposed to be doing anything either. Anyway, I have a lot of free time when I'm sitting at a desk doing IT support, and once I've read all the worthwhile stories on the BBC website, I will then migrate to theregister.com, which has news from the IT world. And that's all I really do, industry-wise. They don't want me going to trade shows and things, because then I wouldn't be at work, playing the glorified receptionist and surreptitiously looking at britfa.gs on my phone.

There are probably people on Twitter you could follow who would keep you abreast of NHS developments, but if you're a brain surgeon or something, I think you just have to read real research and you'll know better than me where they keep that stuff.
>> No. 14117 Anonymous
25th October 2021
Monday 9:28 pm
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If there's some kind of professional registration for your workplace, they'll usually have newsletters and what have you. the IBMS send out a magazine every month to registered scientists.

Also your boss probably gets a shitload of junk-mail magazines that are intended to flog new equipment, but they do have useful things in sometimes, so ask him to pass them on to you instead of putting them straight in the bin.

But overall I don't think you need to bother unless you've got designs on being some kind of top manager exec type who makes decisions and all that. Personally I couldn't give a fuck, I just want to get paid.

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