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>> No. 4012 Anonymous
14th December 2012
Friday 9:36 am
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Applying for JSA links
Both are a little out of date.
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>> No. 12125 Anonymous
23rd March 2018
Friday 11:57 pm
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Local elections in May, you know.
>> No. 12229 Anonymous
25th April 2018
Wednesday 4:55 pm
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I've been disabled for the last couple of years, something I'm working on resolving, but I sometimes wonder how the DWP even functions.

They just called me, off their own back I didn't call them, to tell me that since fucking October I have been getting £75 a week LESS than I should have been (despite me questioning the amount at the time and informing them I thought it was a mistake) and they're chucking me an arrears payment of over £1200. How does a mistake that glaring go unnoticed for so long and who even noticed that it was wrong? Do they periodically assess claims? Bizarre.
>> No. 12230 Anonymous
25th April 2018
Wednesday 10:29 pm
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My deadbeat dad briefly worked for the DHSS back in the early 70s. Nobody bothered to tell him what his job entailed, he was just shown to a desk with a massive pile of forms on it. After fruitlessly spending all day trying to find out what he was supposed to do with these forms, he just shoved them down the back of the desk and went home. Next day, new pile of forms, same routine. He quit after three weeks, because he had run out of places to hide the forms.

I imagine that little has changed at the DWP, except the pile of forms is now a massive Excel spreadsheet that takes nine minutes to load and crashes whenever you try and scroll right.
>> No. 12231 Anonymous
25th April 2018
Wednesday 11:26 pm
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I've long fantasized that we could sack every single person who works for the DWP, bring in a universal income, and still save money in the long run. Useless cunts the lot of them.

>> No. 12198 Anonymous
22nd April 2018
Sunday 6:35 pm
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Is the Financial independence Retire Early (FIRE) idea a fantasy?
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>> No. 12304 Anonymous
22nd May 2018
Tuesday 10:25 pm
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It's not very profitable, especially if you earn money elsewhere since it's taxable income now.
>> No. 12305 Anonymous
22nd May 2018
Tuesday 10:33 pm
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It's always been taxable income. The ongoing change removes the mortgage interest deductible which, yes, will increase taxable income for many.
>> No. 12306 Anonymous
22nd May 2018
Tuesday 10:34 pm
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Only if you declare it.
>> No. 12307 Anonymous
22nd May 2018
Tuesday 10:59 pm
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Sure, double down on the dickishness by dodging your dues too.
>> No. 12308 Anonymous
23rd May 2018
Wednesday 2:18 pm
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That's lovely alliteration.

>> No. 1795 Anonymous
27th May 2011
Friday 6:32 pm
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ITT: Workplace annoyances.

I'll get the ball rolling - having to bring in pastries on your birthday. I know it's cheaper if people bring their own in on their birthday instead of chipping in every time someone in the office has a birthday, but it's still fucking annoying having to fork out on your birthday.
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>> No. 12277 Anonymous
17th May 2018
Thursday 10:06 pm
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That may have more to do with your town in general being almost always dead.
>> No. 12278 Anonymous
17th May 2018
Thursday 10:07 pm
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Well it should be self evident why. Who's going to eat at a money laundering front in Osset when a fiver's taxi ride will get you to the Brazillian carvery and the majesty of the Westgate run?
>> No. 12279 Anonymous
17th May 2018
Thursday 10:14 pm
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>the majesty of the Westgate run

Have you tried The Jolly Tap in Wakey? It's only £1 a pint on Thursdays.
>> No. 12280 Anonymous
18th May 2018
Friday 2:17 pm
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Brazillian Carvery? Where's that?
>> No. 12281 Anonymous
18th May 2018
Friday 3:50 pm
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> Brazillian carvery

This is wonderful and I'm going to steal it use it to mock those who rave about the knockoff rodizio joints springing up around the UK (although I did go to a fairly decent one in Liverpool once).

>> No. 12215 Anonymous
23rd April 2018
Monday 12:33 pm
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Lads, does an 'informal' interview warrant a suit? Call centre job.
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>> No. 12216 Anonymous
23rd April 2018
Monday 2:21 pm
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If in doubt go in a shirt and tie and some black trousers.
>> No. 12217 Anonymous
23rd April 2018
Monday 5:35 pm
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I do smart shoes, black slacks an untucked button-up shirt. Don't wear a tie just to impress.

Some of the best advice I ever got as a teen was "Don't show up to a job interview wearing something you're doing going to be wearing something similar to every day."
>> No. 12218 Anonymous
23rd April 2018
Monday 5:40 pm
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>"Don't show up to a job interview wearing something you're doing going to be wearing something similar to every day."

It's English, Jim, but not as we know it.
>> No. 12228 Anonymous
25th April 2018
Wednesday 12:48 pm
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>Has anyone really been as far as.....

But even then, Fireman? Police officer? Surgeon?

>> No. 12171 Anonymous
17th April 2018
Tuesday 5:19 pm
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On a works night out a female manager kicked me in the balls twice, lots of witnesses, I work for a very large food chain retailer, Could I sue?
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>> No. 12177 Anonymous
17th April 2018
Tuesday 7:01 pm
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Why did she do it?
>> No. 12179 Anonymous
17th April 2018
Tuesday 8:12 pm
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I'm guessing 'banter'
>> No. 12181 Anonymous
18th April 2018
Wednesday 1:10 am
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You need to report her to the police before HR really. It's assault.
>> No. 12183 Anonymous
18th April 2018
Wednesday 1:55 am
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I'm calling bollocks.
>> No. 12187 Anonymous
18th April 2018
Wednesday 9:29 am
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Stop being a silly fanny, she wants the cock.

>> No. 12159 Anonymous
8th April 2018
Sunday 9:19 pm
12159 Big Softie
Hi guys. I'm pretty unhappy at work. I've been a software developer for 6 months. My team contribution is negligible. I doubt the value of the work, and particularly the value of my work. I'm quite isolated. I stay late most days and take work home for the weekend. It's a big open-plan but I say maybe 3 sentences in a day. I want to ask my manager if I can move onto a different project where I'm able to contribute but it feels inappropriate. I'm not sure if I'm learning anything, and if I am, whether what I'm learning is valuable. I don't want to leave because if I can't hack a job sitting on my ass for 9 hours, what job can I hack. It seems as though people would kill to get into software, so shouldn't I be counting my blessings?

After my whinge, can you tell me about crises and direction changes in your careers?
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>> No. 12166 Anonymous
9th April 2018
Monday 6:50 pm
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Is it a dick move to take a full time permanent job, with the intention to leave after four months? I suspended uni for the year, managed to get a full time job offer this month, but I'm planning on returning to uni in September.
>> No. 12167 Anonymous
9th April 2018
Monday 7:07 pm
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Depends on the job, how easy to replace are you? If the answer is very, don't sweat it.
>> No. 12168 Anonymous
9th April 2018
Monday 7:59 pm
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I recently interviewed for a community health organisation who said they were desperate to staff their temporary role because as soon as they train someone up they leave for a permanent position elsewhere. So I'd say yeah try not to fuck people around if they are doing good work.
>> No. 12169 Anonymous
9th April 2018
Monday 9:30 pm
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I am a software developer of ~10 years.

> It's a big open-plan but I say maybe 3 sentences in a day.

Open plan offices are less sociable than small ones, in my experience: its more difficult to have a conversation with the people in your team when you can hear five other people talking and you have people constantly walking around you.

It can also be hard to get to know people in a big office where everyone seems to be working on something different. You have to make an effort to talk to people, ask them what they are doing, how long they have worked there, how their weekend was, etc.

> I want to ask my manager if I can move onto a different project where I'm able to contribute but it feels inappropriate. I'm not sure if I'm learning anything, and if I am, whether what I'm learning is valuable

Ask your manager to move, and tell them what you feel about not learning anything. Dealing with requests like that is part of their job as your manager. Its not inappropriate.

You could try a different company, too. Work environment and the friendliness of your colleagues vary *alot*.
>> No. 12170 Anonymous
9th April 2018
Monday 9:52 pm
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How big is the company you work for, and the dev team within that?

I've never worked for a big company, but I can imagine hating it. Both jobs I've had in software have been for small companies (10 or so people), and I've found it generally decent. I get on well with everyone, support guys, sales guys etc. It's a whole different culture: basically just get shit done, without too much management bollocks in the way.

>> No. 12145 Anonymous
7th April 2018
Saturday 3:39 pm
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In Jan I had a weird incident when driving, it was like a blackout for <1 seconds but it was enough to be noticable. I may have just fallen asleep.

Anyway I've been referred to the neurological unit about it. I just learnt an 'unexplained' blackout can be liable to having your driving license revoked for 12 months.

This is utterly devastating. I cannot operate without my car, I live 45 miles from work for fucks sake and public transport would take me 3h one way at best and cost a shittonne to boot.

How do I dig myself out of this

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>> No. 12153 Anonymous
7th April 2018
Saturday 5:33 pm
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>Fuck all that 'putting other people at risk' shit, if it happens I'll be sorry then
Well, yeah, if that happens being unable to drive for a year will be the least of your problems.
>> No. 12154 Anonymous
7th April 2018
Saturday 5:59 pm
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Yes, it will, but until then I am able to support myself. After that I will not.
>> No. 12155 Anonymous
7th April 2018
Saturday 6:18 pm
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It's all making sense now.

The rumours on /iq/ about Peter Kay. A thread here about potential brain defects and talk of joining a car pool. There's news articles today about the finale of Peter Kay's Car Share. It's all adding up. Keep your eyes open, lads.

We've been invaded by subliminal advertisers, lads.
>> No. 12156 Anonymous
7th April 2018
Saturday 6:24 pm
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In that case, I hope you like it up the bum.
>> No. 12158 Anonymous
7th April 2018
Saturday 8:47 pm
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My advice blackoutlad is to take a look at yourself and not be another Harry Clarke. He was the fatty binwagon driver that also experienced blackouts due to a medical condition and held it back from his employer to keep his job. You just don't know what's going to happen. I've just been through a central nervous system issue and I know how these changes can affect the quality of life you led before your body or head decided to shit on you, picking up the pieces and adapting afterwards can be right fuckabout. I know it's a depressing mindfuck but I'd never be able to live with the thought that I'd blacked out on the road and wiped out a family or some kids on the way to school. I wish you the best otherlad but sometimes you have to accept the inevitable and live with it amongst support and love. All the best mate and hope you don't go proper mental.

>> No. 12126 Anonymous
4th April 2018
Wednesday 7:55 pm
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Evening, lads.

I've found myself in the position where I'm responsible for recruitment for my department at work. The main problem is that I really despise recruitment consultants and I know that the moment I place an advert on traditional job websites they'll start hounding me. I really cannot underline how much I hate them. Consequently, I want to consider alternative forms of recruiting and I can only think of two off the top of my head:-

• A staff referral scheme. They had this at the place I worked before and I'd have said almost a third of staff in the equivalent department were recruited in this way; a payment of up to £3,000 was made for each person you referred, depending on their skills and experience, and this was a lot cheaper than recruitment consultants.

• Targeting universities. This would be playing the long game as we'd be talking at least 2/3 years of entry level work before they'd be grounded enough to take a trainee position in my department but there's no harm in getting the ball rolling now. I wouldn't be arsed to go to any careers fairs, but I know universities these days are competitive and like to do all they can to improve their graduate employability figures so I could probably place an advert with them and let them do all the running.

Anything else you lads can think of?
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>> No. 12140 Anonymous
4th April 2018
Wednesday 10:49 pm
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> What's wrong with the likes of implementing a staff referral scheme

You run the risk of people dragging in anyone with a pulses in hopes of getting them hired for the bonus, coaching them for phone screens and interviews using insider knowledge. Additionally, it can cause friction if you chose not to hire a referal with whom your existing employee has a good relationship or otherwise thinks highly off.

But then again, a referred candidate likely has a decent idea of what the job involves and is thus more likely to apply for the job because they want that role in particular. Additionally, if suitable candidates are scarce, it gives you an in with people already employed elsewhere who might be tempted to switch jobs.

Overall its a reasonable method to find candidates, but it's certainly not a no-brainer.
>> No. 12141 Anonymous
4th April 2018
Wednesday 11:35 pm
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>people already employed elsewhere who might be tempted to switch jobs
Bear in mind that you'll have to pay a substantial premium for these, which together with the referral fee might eat up any savings you make against the cuntsultant's commission. Certainly if I were the person being referred for a fee, I'd be wanting a similar amount myself as a signing-on bonus, on top of an above-market salary.
>> No. 12143 Anonymous
5th April 2018
Thursday 2:11 am
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I always just put 'NO AGENCIES - no finders fee available' at the bottom. If any agents ring just tell them you already stated no agencies and hang up. It's not that big a deal, and you'll probably not get any contacting you.
>> No. 12144 Anonymous
5th April 2018
Thursday 7:49 pm
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Make it a good place to work, then advertise the fact. Simple.
>> No. 12180 Anonymous
17th April 2018
Tuesday 8:22 pm
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I rang around recruitment consultants yesterday morning. They really are masters of bullshit. Most of them have placed job adverts with almost entirely fictitious descriptions of the company. Some have inflated the salary on offer by over £20,000 despite this being discussed clearly on the phone. It's also apparent that a number of recruitment consultants we don't have fee agreements with have cloned the adverts, so any candidates who send their CVs over to them will be utterly fucked if we don't agree to their terms.

>> No. 12102 Anonymous
6th March 2018
Tuesday 6:45 pm
12102 Looking for jobs outside NHS
So I've worked for the NHS most of my adult life and whenever I've needed a job I've just gone on the NHS jobs website. I'm now considering leaving the NHS and looking for something maybe related but not with the same level of bullshit, I guess.

How do normal people find jobs?
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>> No. 12116 Anonymous
6th March 2018
Tuesday 10:02 pm
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>>12115 It's not the higher pay, and I'm fully aware that the NHS has good pension, good workers rights and more annual leave. To be honest, I work for a trust that's in very bad shape and I'm just getting sick of the sense of hopelessness, being asked to do more with less and short-term political manoeuvres in upper management that just tick a box and do nothing to improve patient care.

I suppose I've been a bit vague in what I'm after. I'd quite like something perhaps in a school or university or GP surgery, so I'm not completely selling out and going fully private healthcare. I've got a fair bit of experience and additional qualifications so I wouldn't be looking at being a staff nurse, I'd want to be looking at having something more independent, I guess. Just with less of the bullshit.

But I'll fully admit, you might be right that I might be just be thinking the grass is greener.
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6th March 2018
Tuesday 11:03 pm
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You'll have to sift through a lot of shitty support worker jobs offering £7.80 an hour, but there are a few interesting vacancies mixed in there.


>we generally aren't the most popular of folk

I don't know why. You do a fucking hard job for nowhere near enough money in a totally broken system. Fair play, I couldn't stick it.
>> No. 12119 Anonymous
7th March 2018
Wednesday 1:54 am
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I should listen to Goblin again.
>> No. 12120 Anonymous
7th March 2018
Wednesday 2:06 am
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Try and get a job in a prison, my mate worked in one for a year after he graduated and he said it's interesting and because you're the gate keeper of the drugs they are very polite.

Or, now bear with me, you could move to Scotland. They have the best performing NHS in Britain and if you're experienced I foresee no issues in securing a job before you flit.
>> No. 12121 Anonymous
7th March 2018
Wednesday 6:56 pm
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Actually, a big part of the price premium is to do with the funding model.

As a member of permanent staff, your post is funded from the trust's operational budget, which means it's subject to the stresses of below-inflation increases (i.e. real-terms cuts), and the resulting pressure on the trust to identify what they do best and find more ways of doing less of it better. If they need an extra nurse but there's no headroom in the operational budget, they can't create the post.

As agency staff are effectively either at-will or for a fixed term, the accountants can do a bit of voodoo and charge them to capital budgets. If they need an extra nurse but don't have the funding to create a post, they can spend money from other budgets on agency and contract staff.

The agencies know that they are providers of last resort, so can gouge to fuck. They also know that if they can poach staff away from payroll, that directly increases demand for their services. That means an agency can effectively take an NHS employee away from and hire them back to the same trust at a premium. In order to be able to attract staff, knowing they aren't offering the same benefits they have to offer significantly higher pay, otherwise nobody would join them.

tl;dr fatcats gonna fat.

>> No. 12053 Anonymous
25th February 2018
Sunday 10:28 pm
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I'm 25 and working in engineering (though not an engineer) and cannot countenance the idea of being paid as shittily as I am now the rest of my life.

How do I train myself up to go into fintech or something like that? Don't really care what it is. Just something with decent money. I'm fucking sick of being a poor cunt.
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>> No. 12059 Anonymous
26th February 2018
Monday 5:11 pm
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That raises more questions than it answers.
>> No. 12060 Anonymous
26th February 2018
Monday 6:52 pm
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>I have two degrees

Look into graduate schemes then, mate. Honestly if we're having to tell you this then I'm not sure you have much hope.


Is it not a dodgy MR2 replica or summat?
>> No. 12072 Anonymous
27th February 2018
Tuesday 8:43 pm
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Definitely a bodykit on a cheap car. The main giveaways being the engine cover/c-pillar area and the wheels.
>> No. 12076 Anonymous
28th February 2018
Wednesday 1:08 am
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It's an MR2 bodykit, I'm 99% sure.
>> No. 12078 Anonymous
28th February 2018
Wednesday 3:30 am
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It's the C pillar that gives it away for me, plus those indicators on the front look like they're off an MX5, far too wide for an F50, and I don't think the rear wing would ever sag like that on the real car as I think it was fibreglass.

>> No. 12012 Anonymous
12th February 2018
Monday 4:36 pm
12012 Employment misery
I've been stuck in the same job nearly six years. I'm pretty good at what I do but the work is unerringly bland without much in the way of deviation. This has inevitably caused me to become complacent but in a way that stymies any satisfaction I once found in a job well done.

Everybody tells me my employer doesn't know my worth but I just can't find myself to apply anywhere else. I'm probably just lazy but it's like I can't muster any motivation or even excitement at the prospect of even sorting my CV out to apply for something new even though it would inevitably be better in pretty much every respect.

Am I depressed? If so, does that make most of the working / lower-middle class workers I know depressed? How can you break the cycle?

Sorry for the spam. Originally posted this in /b/ like a daft sod.
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>> No. 12018 Anonymous
13th February 2018
Tuesday 9:24 pm
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Leave life behind and join the site's sponsor, the Merchant Navy!
>> No. 12019 Anonymous
13th February 2018
Tuesday 9:50 pm
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Or better, go buy some new Nikes and get fit!
>> No. 12037 Anonymous
16th February 2018
Friday 2:14 pm
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I have a good friend who was in there for years. He absolutely loved it, made loads of money, and the way you get time off in huge chunks of the calendar is appealing too.
>> No. 12038 Anonymous
16th February 2018
Friday 2:14 pm
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Is there much bumming? I'm not interested if there's no bumming.
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16th February 2018
Friday 2:18 pm
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There's lots of fucking in general apparently, now that plenty of birds work on the ships too. I'm sure there's more than enough bumming, but it might not be the most popular mode of fucking these days.

>> No. 11978 Anonymous
6th February 2018
Tuesday 11:11 am
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Lads... So how can I get references from Carillion now that it has gone bust? I doubt HR will have it if I honestly tell them that I can't get them anymore.
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>> No. 11988 Anonymous
7th February 2018
Wednesday 4:20 pm
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Just started a new job and they checked all 3 of mine.
>> No. 11994 Anonymous
7th February 2018
Wednesday 7:38 pm
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Well I think it's only really minimum wage jobs they check them for, to make sure you're not going to pilfer the tills or anything.
>> No. 11995 Anonymous
8th February 2018
Thursday 1:39 pm
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It's actually the opposite. Only shite jobs never check it. So can you fuck off if you have nothing useful to add?

>> No. 11996 Anonymous
8th February 2018
Thursday 9:10 pm
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I've been working in the high end of IT for the last fifteen years and I've never once had someone check a reference.
>> No. 11997 Anonymous
8th February 2018
Thursday 9:14 pm
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The other lad's just talking bollocks and in denial that he's in a bullshit job.

>> No. 11944 Anonymous
1st February 2018
Thursday 10:27 am
11944 Ethics and that
Would you take a three figure salary to work at a corporation widely regarded as horrendously unethical?

It's a position you'd love, excel at, and be able to make some changes to a couple of the evil policies, but not all of them. It's a significant step up for you, career wise. You've been headhunted and you have scope to define your own role - the dream basically.

Could you do it? Would you? I'm in this predicament myself. I feel like if I really have to ask then I already know the answer, but I can't pretend I'm not tempted.

I probably shouldn't name the company but yes, it's the one you're thinking of.
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>> No. 11967 Anonymous
1st February 2018
Thursday 8:41 pm
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>> No. 11968 Anonymous
1st February 2018
Thursday 8:47 pm
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What are the ethical struggles that come with being Nicholas Cage?
>> No. 11969 Anonymous
2nd February 2018
Friday 8:41 am
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I could only do it if I were working it into a greater plan. Right now I'm working for an industry that's a grey area, ethically, but I'm saving up specifically to take another related qualification and move into a better field.
>> No. 11970 Anonymous
2nd February 2018
Friday 1:51 pm
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OP this is what is known as an "ethical compromise under capitalism".

We all have to make such compromises in order to live comfortably. On the one hand, working for Nestlé in and of itself is not evil, unless you are head of the African Milk Division as the above poster has said. On the other hand, the fact you would have influence over policy and would have a six figure salary suggests you are skilled enough to easily find similar employment elsewhere, so it doesn't seem like something you don't have a choice in.

In the end only you can decide whether it is something you can do and still live with yourself in the long run.
>> No. 11971 Anonymous
2nd February 2018
Friday 4:17 pm
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There's things you could do to mitigate your ethical concerns.

You could use it as a stepping stone to something more ethical. It's inevitable that making a living somewhere and spending the majority of your time there will draw you into that culture and sap you of the will to try anything else. It will be extremely well paid and comfortable. It will take a tremendous amount of willpower to resist this and not have your values dulled over time.

Also you could maintain an openness about what it is you do for the company, and tell people you trust honestly about the ethical concerns you have. Don't portray the career in a better light for the sake of pride. If you're prepared to take the risk, you could share your views anonymously with relevant activist groups. You could even one day be a whistleblower if the opportunity arises.

>> No. 11940 Anonymous
26th January 2018
Friday 7:46 pm
11940 Actuaries in UK
What’s the deal with actuarial analysts in a country with public healthcare? It appears they focus on secondary insurance markets but I assume you could still work with car/property insurance privately.
Has anyone known a British actuary?

t. would like to live in the UK
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>> No. 11941 Anonymous
26th January 2018
Friday 8:59 pm
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You'd probably find a job in Lloyds (the insurance market, not the bank) in London with those skills. The pensions market uses actuaries a lot. I haven't met one for years though.
>> No. 11942 Anonymous
26th January 2018
Friday 9:27 pm
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An odd question from an actuary, of course there'ss loads of actuarial roles in the UK, just search in London on any job site.
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26th January 2018
Friday 10:03 pm
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I know an actuary. She's exactly as boring as predicted, which I suppose is a sign of a good actuary.

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