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>> No. 4012 Anonymous
14th December 2012
Friday 9:36 am
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Stickied
Applying for JSA links
http://pastebin.com/5vJCh4HQ
http://www.urban75.com/Action/Jsa/jsa2.html
Both are a little out of date.
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>> No. 12229 Anonymous
25th April 2018
Wednesday 4:55 pm
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>>4012
I've been disabled for the last couple of years, something I'm working on resolving, but I sometimes wonder how the DWP even functions.

They just called me, off their own back I didn't call them, to tell me that since fucking October I have been getting £75 a week LESS than I should have been (despite me questioning the amount at the time and informing them I thought it was a mistake) and they're chucking me an arrears payment of over £1200. How does a mistake that glaring go unnoticed for so long and who even noticed that it was wrong? Do they periodically assess claims? Bizarre.
>> No. 12230 Anonymous
25th April 2018
Wednesday 10:29 pm
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>>12229

My deadbeat dad briefly worked for the DHSS back in the early 70s. Nobody bothered to tell him what his job entailed, he was just shown to a desk with a massive pile of forms on it. After fruitlessly spending all day trying to find out what he was supposed to do with these forms, he just shoved them down the back of the desk and went home. Next day, new pile of forms, same routine. He quit after three weeks, because he had run out of places to hide the forms.

I imagine that little has changed at the DWP, except the pile of forms is now a massive Excel spreadsheet that takes nine minutes to load and crashes whenever you try and scroll right.
>> No. 12231 Anonymous
25th April 2018
Wednesday 11:26 pm
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>>12229

I've long fantasized that we could sack every single person who works for the DWP, bring in a universal income, and still save money in the long run. Useless cunts the lot of them.
>> No. 12516 Anonymous
9th August 2018
Thursday 12:44 am
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>>12231
Unfortunately that would require the admin costs to be 110x higher than they currently are.

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>> No. 1795 Anonymous
27th May 2011
Friday 6:32 pm
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ITT: Workplace annoyances.

I'll get the ball rolling - having to bring in pastries on your birthday. I know it's cheaper if people bring their own in on their birthday instead of chipping in every time someone in the office has a birthday, but it's still fucking annoying having to fork out on your birthday.
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>> No. 12717 Anonymous
15th November 2018
Thursday 7:03 am
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The administration team at work are petrified of thinking for themselves. I had one of them approach me yesterday because they'd noticed an issue with something submitted to them. It turned out there were five separate issues with it and they came over five different times because it didn't occur to them once to review the entire thing to see if there was anything else wrong with it; every time they spotted an issue they just rushed over. I tried asking them a few basic things about each one and it was clear they hadn't even thought of doing even a bit of rudimentary digging around to see if there was background information which would mean the things they'd raised weren't even a problem. They have to be spoonfed absolutely everything.

It's an open plan office and some of the inane things they come out with are absolutely shocking. Several of them couldn't name where Sydney is and actually thought Australia was a state in the USA. I just can't comprehend what it would be like to be in my twenties and have no ambition to do anything more than administration, having the same mindless conversations every weekday for the next forty years or so.
>> No. 12718 Anonymous
15th November 2018
Thursday 6:43 pm
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>>12717
These are the people who watch Love Island.
>> No. 12719 Anonymous
15th November 2018
Thursday 7:04 pm
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>>12718
I don't know if it's because I was too young to be fully aware of this beforehand, but it seems that ever since Jade Goody went on Big Brother people revel in their ignorance and boast about how they don't know things as if it's something to be proud of.
>> No. 12720 Anonymous
15th November 2018
Thursday 7:46 pm
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>>12668

Funny how far not being a knob will get you in the workplace.

We've one woman at our place who insists that when she leaves she doesn't want a collection or a do. She says she doesn't want a fuss. The reality of it is she knows no fucker would come out for it because she's a horrible cunt, and doesn't want the embarrassment.
>> No. 12721 Anonymous
15th November 2018
Thursday 10:28 pm
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>>12717
Every supervisor in retail is the same.
Whenever they go for their training they get a lobotomy and lose their common sense.

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>> No. 12669 Anonymous
8th November 2018
Thursday 3:20 am
12669 Hello
Are call centre jobs as bad as people say?
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>> No. 12711 Anonymous
13th November 2018
Tuesday 11:05 am
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>>12681
> Generally I've found inbound (tech support, customer service, etc) is always more pleasant than outbound
Also agreed, my experience as well.
>> No. 12713 Anonymous
14th November 2018
Wednesday 2:35 pm
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>>12710
>the thickest of the cunts who couldn't even pretend not to be a brain-dead sausage material calling at 04:00 in the morning to yell shit at you.
I worked for an insurance middleman who were not Gocompare and had someone call us, evidently pissed out of his head, whining at us about the Gocompare man. I didn't get to hear the call but apparently it was hilarious. The best part is that even though the handler could tell it was a joke, because he mentioned blowing up the office we had to refer it to the police, so he almost certainly got a visit.
>> No. 12714 Anonymous
14th November 2018
Wednesday 5:12 pm
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>>12713
Oi, oi, oi. Had that stuff happen to me too, some tryhards threatening to blow up everything.
The funniest part was when one of our engineers did actually visit the wannabe terrоrist. Turned out to be some kind of fat neck-beard poor sod in his early thirties, living with his ma. You couldn't make up this shit.
>> No. 12715 Anonymous
14th November 2018
Wednesday 8:40 pm
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>>12714

>Turned out to be some kind of fat neck-beard poor sod in his early thirties, living with his ma.

You say that as if that's not a perfect description of a potential domestic terrorist.
>> No. 12716 Anonymous
14th November 2018
Wednesday 9:22 pm
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>>12714
>Turned out to be some kind of fat neck-beard poor sod in his early thirties, living with his ma.

You say that as if that's not a perfect description of any .gs regular.

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>> No. 12706 Anonymous
12th November 2018
Monday 6:44 am
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Morning lads, I have an issue that I think everyone has faced at some point involving new job anxiety. I think typing this out will ease my worry in itself but if you had any sage wisdom it would be most appreciated.

My new role is seemingly perfect, professional and I feel very lucky to have gotten it. I've also moved to a new city where I don't know anyone so it's a big step. The problem is that I worry I will either be fired or end up not making any friends at work. That would be heartbreaking and at 30 I feel less able to afford messing this up when I'm trying to put my life in order.

This isn't without some basis. I'm coming back into work after a long period hiding in academia and before that I struggled to hold down a job much less make workplace friends (I’m a little shy/awkward). University fixed that in more ways than one from building my self-confidence and people skills to simply getting me out of the call centre/data entry hell. Of course, I must acknowledge that university life is also very different to the real world so I don’t know how much my luck will have changed.

Anyway, I’m sure this is all very tedious to read but you can understand my cause for concern. How do I fit in and achieve job security? Would baking some cookies at the end of the week for everyone send the wrong signals as the rational part of my brain suggests?
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>> No. 12707 Anonymous
12th November 2018
Monday 7:00 am
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This'll sound daft, but talk back to people when they talk to you. If someone asks about your weekend then ask how theirs was.
>> No. 12708 Anonymous
12th November 2018
Monday 7:23 am
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>How do I fit in and achieve job security?

You're the new lad. You're not the first new lad and you won't be the last. Everyone is expecting that it'll take you a while to settle in to the job, learn the ropes and get to know everyone. Nobody is expecting you to be a total whizzkid or to be the life and soul of the party; trying to be either will just alienate people.

Be polite, be friendly, show willing and try to avoid any properly massive fuck-ups. If you can manage that, you'll be fine.

If you don't make any friends at work, that's no great tragedy. They might not be the kind of people you want to spend your free time with and there are plenty of other ways to meet people. If the job doesn't go as well as you hoped, that's no great tragedy either. Unemployment is at a record low and there are plenty of decent jobs for qualified people like yourself. As long as you don't literally burn the office down or bankrupt the company, you'll get a decent enough reference.
>> No. 12709 Anonymous
12th November 2018
Monday 10:10 pm
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> at 30 I feel less able to afford messing this up when I'm trying to put my life in order.

Logic dictates that you do not need to feel this way. You can afford to fail.
>> No. 12712 Anonymous
13th November 2018
Tuesday 11:29 am
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I've recently changed jobs too. I don't feel exactly comfortable as I tend to feel that I was taken because of no other candidates. I have to note that I don't have much evidence for that so maybe it's just a self-doubt. But maybe not.

I'm also not the most personable lad and a bit awkward and I really wish I could just carry it being aloof and not feeling uncomfortable. For some reason awkwardness usually takes over and I try too hard to appear 'normal'. The outcome is of course anything but that; about a year ago some other lad asked me if I could to not do that, in almost exact words 'you look like a tryhard, don't, you are okay'.

Sage for /emo/ bollocks.

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>> No. 12682 Anonymous
9th November 2018
Friday 12:47 am
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I'm 26, have been working full time for two years and already feel as though I'll be stuck in this career forever and have no idea how I could ever leave it, I want to find something else to do because I never chose this line of work, it was just the only job offer I got out of university, and the idea of changing what I'm doing altogether seems insurmountable. Who would hire me? Why? I don't get how I'm supposed to get anything off the ground.

No I don't know what I want to do. How the hell would I, I haven't done it before.
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>> No. 12700 Anonymous
9th November 2018
Friday 6:11 pm
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What's even going on? What are we getting angry about?
>> No. 12701 Anonymous
9th November 2018
Friday 6:14 pm
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>>12700

A mod is getting angry because he thinks /lab/paedo's tactics have been taken to a new level by the "Alt Right" who are now making apparently genuine threads that are actually just subtle methods to convert us to right-wing thinking, and that once they find their foothold in here they'll be all over us like "flies on shit".

Personally I think he needs to eat 2mg of Risperdal and sit in a darkened room with no internet for a bit.
>> No. 12702 Anonymous
9th November 2018
Friday 6:18 pm
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>>12701

He's not a mod.
>> No. 12703 Anonymous
9th November 2018
Friday 8:32 pm
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>>12702

My apologies.

Someone acting rather proprietorially towards the board is getting angry...
>> No. 12704 Anonymous
9th November 2018
Friday 8:40 pm
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>>12703
He's not getting angry.

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>> No. 12618 Anonymous
23rd September 2018
Sunday 9:19 pm
12618 Contracting
Where I work we have a lot of contractors. They do they same work as permanent staff, presumably being paid a lot more, and they stay up to two years, which I suspect is longer than the average tenure for a permie. I have also seen a lot of them that are much worse at their jobs than the average permanent staff (and they don't get fired)

It seems like that in a place full of contractors, being a permie is a shit place to be: more responsibility and less pay. Senior management recognise that contractors are costing them a lot (they mention it during all-hands meetings), but seem to have no plan to increase benefits for permies to try and encourage them to stay. It is very hard to hire good permanent people.

As a result of this, lots of permanent people are leaving to become contractors. I am thinking of joining them.

Does anyone have experience with such situations?
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>> No. 12619 Anonymous
23rd September 2018
Sunday 9:38 pm
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Beware of IR35. If HMRC think that you're just pretending to be self-employed for tax purposes, they will fuck your shit up.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IR35

As a contractor, you have no statutory employment rights. You might be paid more, but you have no entitlement to sick pay or holiday pay and your contract can be terminated with no notice. If your client decides to fuck you over, you have no recourse to an employment tribunal.

Becoming a contractor can be advantageous, but there are risks and downsides.
>> No. 12621 Anonymous
23rd September 2018
Sunday 9:47 pm
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>>12618
A good part of this is to do with budgets. Permanent staff have to pay for themselves, whereas contractors can be considered a capital expense. The two are handled through different channels by different business functions with differing levels of baggage (HR vs purchasing). One of the reasons I left a previous job was that I was underworked and underpaid, and my employers found excuses instead of doing anything about it, but somehow still managed to hire a contractor at a not-insubstantial day rate to do things I could have been doing.
>> No. 12622 Anonymous
23rd September 2018
Sunday 10:44 pm
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It depends on your industry. In cheffladding, self-employed is the way to go, as there is ALWAYS work for you, multiple extremely established agencies who you know are dependable, and due to the nature of the job you can pretty much wander into a new workplace or environment every other day and still know what you're doing. It would basically be impossible for a semi-skilled chef near a large urban area to run out of work.

Your industry might be very different. As already said, you're looking after yourself from then on out, and it's hard to quantify just how useful holidays and sick pay can end up being. If the extra money you'd be getting as a contractor isn't much more than, say, six weeks extra pay, then a holiday off work and a bit of illness could see that extra money wiped out anyway.

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>> No. 12568 Anonymous
3rd September 2018
Monday 3:09 pm
12568 Can somebody translate this?
Can somebody translate this sentence in plain English? It's the answer that I got after a job interview. I aced the technical part, but I struggled a bit with the chatting with the bosses.


"We felt you were very personable, however we did not feel that you are the right cultural fit for the organisation at this time."

Thanks, lads. Now I am going to get plastered. I really wanted that job.
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>> No. 12611 Anonymous
18th September 2018
Tuesday 1:21 pm
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>>12609

This >>12610
IE, wear a ballgag and leather cuffs at the interview, works every time.
>> No. 12612 Anonymous
18th September 2018
Tuesday 1:25 pm
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>>12580
Your analogy still essentially likens HR personnel to a U-bend, so ultimately it seems like we agree.
>> No. 12613 Anonymous
18th September 2018
Tuesday 5:42 pm
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>>12610

I know, Amazon corporate culture is total shit. The job is marginally better because it is in tech support and not one of those slaves in picking/packing. I do not expect to stay long there, just about ten months to improve my CV. At least I am childless and alone, so I can devote myself fully to the workplace. The interviewer is going to appreciate it.
>> No. 12614 Anonymous
18th September 2018
Tuesday 6:02 pm
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>>12613
Tell them that you've licensed your intellectual property to an offshore company through which you'll have to be paid.
>> No. 12617 Anonymous
19th September 2018
Wednesday 5:22 pm
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>>12573
It could well be a cop out or template response, but it could be this exactly. You may all be on the spectrum IT nerds, but there are still people with different preferences and roles to play.

For example, having one person obsessed with process can be beneficial in keeping the rest of the team from cutting corners and building tech debt; have too many of those and they start downward spiral of process over progress. When that person quits, they may want another one.

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>> No. 12581 Anonymous
5th September 2018
Wednesday 11:17 am
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What are some things that you can get qualified for relatively quickly that would get you a job paying more than the minimum wage? The first thing that springs to mind is an SIA (security guard) licence course.

My definition of relatively quickly is fairly loose so feel free to suggest anything from one week to half a year, the higher resulting pay the better.
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>> No. 12593 Anonymous
6th September 2018
Thursday 2:19 pm
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>>12591

>It seems like it'd be a much more stressful job on our cramped roads.

I know what you mean, but at the end of the day, you can't control the traffic, so if someones having a go at you for being late, all you have to do is show them the congestion report from the M25.

I think what appeals to me about the job, other than the fact I find driving inherently relaxing, even on a deadline, is that you can only legally work so many hours in a day. Some of the jobs I've had, I'd have killed to be able to point at my tachometer and sit down in a corner for four hours. Plus I've never seen anyone cut up an HGV on the motorway.
>> No. 12595 Anonymous
6th September 2018
Thursday 3:22 pm
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>>12592
Isn't the military a bit funny about that? Also has laser eye surgery gotten safer over the last couple of decades, I seem to vaguely recall reading some horror stories about it as a kid.
>> No. 12597 Anonymous
6th September 2018
Thursday 6:56 pm
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>>12587

>I looked into the military but my shitty eyesight disqualifies me.

There's no barrier to entry on any eyesight issues that can be corrected with glasses/contacts, in any branch of the british military. There might be some restrictions for obvious things like being a fighter pilot, but other than that, you should get in.

Unless you're legally blind, but I feel like you would have mentioned that already.
>> No. 12598 Anonymous
6th September 2018
Thursday 7:45 pm
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>>12597
Even if he is, he could always go and work for the MoD's procurement division.
>> No. 12599 Anonymous
6th September 2018
Thursday 9:11 pm
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>>12597
Pretty sure all the branches set a limit of -6.50 on people who need to wear glasses.

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>> No. 12500 Anonymous
8th August 2018
Wednesday 12:21 am
12500 Probation
My contract states that during the 6 month probation period my employer can give me a week's notice. Under a different clause, it's stated that I must give a month's notice - regardless of whether I'm on probation or not.

At my previous place, during probation, it was a week each. Is this imbalance (my month's notice to my employer's week) unusual?
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>> No. 12517 Anonymous
9th August 2018
Thursday 2:30 am
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>>12513

Nah, just book your holiday. You don't owe them anything and you're playing by the rules. I doubt anyone will even notice what you've done, particularly if they don't know the timeline of this other offer.

Mind you if all you're doing is essentially transferring to another department, why do you think your manager wouldn't find out about it? And why would you need a notice period to get a different job with the same company?
>> No. 12518 Anonymous
9th August 2018
Thursday 6:55 pm
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>>12511

And any of that stops you from just not turning up how, exactly?

Or, if you think they're going to sue you over contract law and you were mug enough to sign a contract specifying a three month notice period, turning up and putting your feet on the desk and farting like a complete cunt every minute or so while playing angry birds on your phone, taking half hour fag breaks every 15 minutes and a three hour lunch every day, from which you come back smelling of cheap whores' perfume and stale Stella? They'll soon ask you to just stop coming in.
>> No. 12522 Anonymous
11th August 2018
Saturday 1:57 pm
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>>12517
You still need to work notice periods even transferring between departments. I know this, as that's how I transferred into this job. I also know exactly who will be interviewing me, and how sodding lazy they are about actually pursuing references. Typing it all out made me realise that if I did try to leave them in the lurch it would just be an attempt at cheap revenge, which might not stand me in the best stead for ever going back at a later date. I think I will still book the holiday, but make up some shit about my parents taking me to Italy for a long-overdue summer break (which, actually, they have offered to do) and act like I'm sorry I'm leaving. Y'know, if I get the job. I really need to get the job. I haven't spoken to anyone else about it in an effort to keep it hush so you two are getting all my pent-up mulling over on the situation, sorry. Thanks.
>> No. 12558 Anonymous
16th August 2018
Thursday 6:22 pm
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>>12522
An update, for anyone who cares: my current role have just offered me a potential change of contract, offering more hours and more responsibility. Someone has fucking snitched on me, I know it.

Bugger and blast it all.
>> No. 12559 Anonymous
16th August 2018
Thursday 6:24 pm
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>>12558
Could be worse.
My last employer let me work my full months notice with barely a word to me, then offered me a raise on my very last day.

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>> No. 12447 Anonymous
1st August 2018
Wednesday 8:20 pm
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I get really bored when I'm not at work.

Anyone else?
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>> No. 12468 Anonymous
4th August 2018
Saturday 12:56 pm
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>>12467
I'm not heavily into programming so can you tell me, for example, why you've referenced Python and Perl in the same context - by which I mean, you've used two languages to do the same thing, so why is that? Can you not do everything in one language? Why do you need both?
>> No. 12470 Anonymous
4th August 2018
Saturday 1:34 pm
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>>12468

Programming languages are designed for different purposes, have different design philosophies and have particular strengths and weaknesses. A large proportion of programming involves working on existing code rather than writing stuff from scratch, so you need to know a variety of different languages. If you're working with a team that prefers Perl, you need to know Perl; if you're working on a project that was written in Python, you need to know Python.

Python and Perl are both scripting languages, meaning that they're relatively easy to write but not particularly efficient in terms of processor power. They're generally used for small bits of "glue code" that join together different systems. Python is a relatively modern language and has a reputation for being very clear and easy to read. Perl is a more terse language, which allows expert users to write useful one-line programs but makes it harder to read.

If you're writing a program that needs to be as fast as possible (e.g. a computer game or an operating system), you need to use a low-level language like C or Rust. These languages are designed to closely match the hardware of the computer, so they're easy for the computer to process but harder for a human to understand. Languages like Java and Go split the difference - they're much faster than Python, but easier to write than C.

If you're writing a web application, you have to use Javascript (or a language that can be translated to Javascript) because that's the only programming language that web browsers understand. If you're writing an iPhone app, you have to use Objective C or Swift.

Fortunately, most programming languages use fairly similar concepts, so it's not very difficult for an experienced programmer to pick up a new language. The specific syntax of a programming language is relatively simple compared to the underlying abstract concepts. The core challenge of programming is figuring out how to break down a complex task into lots of small, precise, repeatable tasks; everything else is really just admin.
>> No. 12471 Anonymous
4th August 2018
Saturday 2:12 pm
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>>12470
None of that explains why the poster used both Python and Perl for the same thing.
>> No. 12472 Anonymous
4th August 2018
Saturday 2:57 pm
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>>12468
Mostly because the interpreters were available on that machine and it's relatively easy to add more modules without root access if I need them.

The second reason is that I didn't know how to bootstrap pip (Python's package manager), how to install modules into my home directory and if the modules I needed were even available. Quite contrary with Perl.

The third reason is that I'm not really a programmer and don't know both languages even mildly decently.
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5th August 2018
Sunday 12:44 am
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>>12470

Not you again longstorylad

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>> No. 11860 Anonymous
10th January 2018
Wednesday 11:38 pm
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Lads, I want to start a real career and I'd like to ask for your help.

I've been working as a private Mathematics tutor for nigh on five years now and I'm in a rut. Due to a combination of immaturity and personal issues whose details I won't bore you with I underperformed at uni and walked away from Manchester with a third in Physics. Not brilliant, but my own fault. I stumbled into the tutoring lark while looking for jobs but once I'd found I could make a comfortable living doing it little has changed in my life. I've been happy enough cruising through my twenties with my own place, girlfriends, , plenty of free time, all that good jazz, but something terrible has happened.

A few days ago I woke up and realised I'm hurtling towards 30 without any kind of solid career and little idea on how to retrain and at what level. As much as I enjoy being a tutor there isn't much in the way of progression and it's something I now feel I'd be happier doing to stay active when I'm retired. My friends have developed this alarming habit of getting married, one git actually has children as well, and I'm getting more left behind every day. I'm at the stage where people I know are always getting promoted or discussing mortgage and when I'm asked what I'm doing I start to wince at hearing myself repeat the same story.

Despite my third I'm not a complete thicko. I'm very good at Maths, as is expected of me, and I can write basic programs in quite a few languages, mostly C++, Java and Python. But my CV is all but empty spare for my tutoring and a clutch of very good A-levels which I'm sure count for fuck all. I have no references, no internships, essentially no indication that I can do much at all. I've been forbidden from entering teaching proper, not that I'd fancy doing it anyway, so for any other line of work I look like a blank slate.

Beggars can't be choosers and I'm not fussy about what area of IT I'd train for but would prefer something neither crushingly dull or likely to be automated within a few years. If I had the freedom to choose it would be something like data analysis, since I actually enjoy identifying statistical trends and building models based on them. What areas would you recommend and what qualifications are worth pursuing/ignoring?

Apologies if this is all a bit vague. Any guidance you could give me would be greatly appreciated.
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>> No. 12469 Anonymous
4th August 2018
Saturday 1:01 pm
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>>12390

An MSc probably won't pay off, because it's an expensive course and it's not massively more valuable to employers than a BSc. Your physics degree already demonstrates that you can deal with complex abstractions, which is the key aptitude across the IT industry.

Broadly speaking, good employers are more concerned with practical experience than formal qualifications. Being able to say "I did x, y and z at my last job" counts for more than "I learned x, y and z in a classroom". The kind of people you want to work for are capable of sussing out your real level of competence at interview. They also know that it's possible to bullshit your way through an academic qualification even if your practical skills are weak or nonexistent. It's a known problem that many Computing graduates are completely incapable of actually writing code [1]. Companies that really care about qualifications tend to be more bureaucratic and have non-technical managers, neither of which is good for workplace morale or your promotion prospects.

There are also a range of industry certifications that are much less costly than a Masters and highly respected - in the case of security, the CISSP and the CCIE Security Track. There are also some much less respected certifications that might impress a non-technical manager but are mickey mouse to the nth degree, so tread carefully.

[1] https://blog.codinghorror.com/why-cant-programmers-program/

>>12466

Avoid recruiters like the plague. Everyone in the industry despises them. They're cynical opportunists who are just trying to scam employers out of a referral fee by spamming them with hundreds of candidates. Try to learn some stuff off your own back, apply for real vacancies and network as much as possible - if you live near a city of any real size, there should be plenty of IT meetups and networking events.
>> No. 12473 Anonymous
4th August 2018
Saturday 7:09 pm
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>>12469

Yeah, thanks, I already knew about that. The problem is that 99% of the job offers that I see online are from recruiters/agencies. I will try to look for some meetups, that's a good idea.
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4th August 2018
Saturday 8:52 pm
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>>12473
Ask around for recommendations when it comes to recruiters. People in your area will typically know who are the ones that know their stuff and who to avoid. I got my current job through a recruiter that was recommended to me, and the process was surprisingly light on bullshit.

Absolutely never approach an agency through the front door though. Get a name and contact that person directly.
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4th August 2018
Saturday 9:04 pm
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>>12474

Sound advice, but easier said than done. I do not know anyone in the area apart from my former teacher, but he's a complete idiot more interested in box ticking than in actually teaching.
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4th August 2018
Saturday 10:19 pm
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>>12469
I agree with your advice on qualifications, particularly in information security; experience is far more important than any certificate. Another good way people get started in security is to actually work in an operations or support department of IT - those are are very good places to start "at the bottom" and work your way up in.

I don't agree so much with your recruiter advice though - you're definitely right that most of them are wankers, but they're still a necessary evil. Even if you start by looking directly at the various job-sites, nearly everything is done through a recruiter, very few companies actually recruit direct (civil/public servants excepted).

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>> No. 12358 Anonymous
10th June 2018
Sunday 6:40 pm
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Have any of you lad/lassm8s held a regular job while being a spare time military reserve?

I'm learning nothing new in my bland corporate job, so I'm thinking of trying for something like communications in the RAF.

Tell me why this idea is silly/great.
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>> No. 12366 Anonymous
11th June 2018
Monday 7:28 pm
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OP here. The more I search this idea, the more appealing it becomes. I was also looking for paid work to do in my off-time.

I imagine that most companies aren't particularly thrilled to hear you'll be signing up. How can I break this to them gently and not lose my bland corporate job?
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11th June 2018
Monday 7:35 pm
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>>12366
I think thats the easy part actually - most employers will be pleased you're doing something like this out of work, even with the attendant risks. Also, I think its totally illegal for them to try and get rid of you while you're a reservist.
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11th June 2018
Monday 7:51 pm
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>>12366

You'll need to check your contract of employment - some contracts have a clause restricting your right to work elsewhere. The MoD will inform your employer that you've signed up, so you do need to tell them.

If you do get deployed, your employer is legally obliged to keep your job open for you, but they don't have to keep paying your salary while you're away. The MoD will pay most of the costs of recruiting and training a temporary replacement, so they won't be significantly out of pocket unless you're genuinely irreplaceable.

All reservist units have an Employer Support Officer who can advise you on how to talk to your employer about enlisting. Serving as a reservist can be sold to your employer in positive terms - you'll gain teamwork and leadership skills, you're doing your bit for the country etc.

It's also worth checking to see if your employer has signed the Armed Forces Covenant.

https://www.gov.uk/employee-reservist/financial-support-for-employers

https://www.armedforcescovenant.gov.uk/get-involved/who-has-signed-the-covenant/
>> No. 12444 Anonymous
1st August 2018
Wednesday 6:51 pm
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It’s alright, more work than you might want and it can get repetitive but then you’re also being paid to have a laugh with your mates. Best bet is to pop in for a few evenings and do a weekend, see how you feel about it.

>communications in the RAF

I thought you wanted to be involved with the military?

>>12359
>but you could easily get called up into a war zone

Keep this a secret from wives and employers but you can easily say no. It’s not like the American national guard, you volunteer.

Only time you'll be at risk of being 'called up' is if Ivan’s dropping little buckets of sunshine all over the midlands but the internet will probably be down anyway.
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1st August 2018
Wednesday 7:34 pm
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>>12444

>Keep this a secret from wives and employers but you can easily say no. It’s not like the American national guard, you volunteer.

Check your contract m8. Historically they have asked for volunteers, but the Army 2020 Refine made it clear that the intention is to draw more heavily on the Army Reserve to allow for a substantial reduction in the number of regulars. Mandatory mobilisation did happen in the early years of Herrick and is far more likely in future.

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>> No. 12435 Anonymous
29th July 2018
Sunday 1:27 pm
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Have any of you managed to work at a nightclub and yet maintain an existence fit for a human being? I've not been at it long, but my weight has yo-yo'd (probably have a diagnosable binge eating disorder now) and while I get a bit of a buzz from the long hours of exhausting work, I now feel like a zombie most of the time.
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>> No. 12441 Anonymous
29th July 2018
Sunday 6:55 pm
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>>12440

Sorry mate, they're not really designed to block out noise as much as a comfortable pair of headphones to sleep with.

If an in-ear type earphone isn't cancelling out the noise, then it's difficult to know what to recommend. It's probably similar to what you've got already, but maybe: https://www.flareaudio.com/collections/isolate
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29th July 2018
Sunday 9:28 pm
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>>12440

In-ear headphones have less sound-blocking power than ear plugs, because there needs to be a channel for the sound to reach your eardrum.

Ideally you'd get a pair of custom-fit earplugs, but they're rather expensive. I have a pair of ACS custom plugs that I'm very happy with; they offer plugs specifically designed for sleeping for £79.

https://acscustom.com/uk/products/hearing-protection/other/sleepsound

If you're using normal foam earplugs, the ability of the plugs to block sound is hugely dependent on finding a pair that fits you well. I'd suggest buying a selection pack of different styles, which will help you find the best compromise between noise blocking and comfort. This assortment includes 11 pairs for £3.49. Once you've found a good fit, you can buy them by the box for very little.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Disposable-Variety-3M-Honeywell-Moldex/dp/B00B1STC2C

It might be possible to double up with earplugs and ear defenders if you sleep on your back and don't move much during sleep. The least bulky option is the Peltor Optime I, which is available with either a normal headband or a behind-the-neck band. The combination provides an astounding level of noise reduction, equivalent to being profoundly deaf.

https://www.arco.co.uk/products/247100
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>> No. 12443 Anonymous
30th July 2018
Monday 12:33 am
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I used to work in a nightclub. Horrible job.
>> No. 12462 Anonymous
2nd August 2018
Thursday 2:49 pm
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>>12440
Don't work nights if you can - it's terrible for your health.

https://www.theguardian.com/sustainable-business/2015/oct/28/night-shift-three-million-workers-health-risks-obesity-cancer-diabetes
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2nd August 2018
Thursday 5:07 pm
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>>12462
I loved the first little exchange in the comments. Tom fucking Jones.

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>> No. 12418 Anonymous
16th July 2018
Monday 5:05 pm
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Hi Lads, cadet from the travel-working thread here - I think the MN might be an interesting topic to discuss, especially as some other lads have questions.

I can only speak from the perspective of someone starting a cadetship, so can't contribute much, other than my agreement at the poster saying that it seems to be a good way out for someone without qualifications but a willingness to do the graft.
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>> No. 12422 Anonymous
16th July 2018
Monday 9:19 pm
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I finished my cadetship nine years ago. I would've recommended it to anyone around then, but it can be a tough job market these days. If you're going to do a cadetship, I'd recommend the engineering route over deck, and if you're going to do a deck cadetship, try to get sponsored on an oil, gas, or chemical tanker, or some kind of DP ship like supply ships. Having specialised tickets from those ships will make it MUCH easier to get and keep a better paid job. Straight cargo is not recommended. Standby is okay, the pay is actually pretty good, but it can be a dead end career.
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17th July 2018
Tuesday 9:06 pm
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>>12422

Got any stories about cruise work? I've heard it can be low pay and the 4months on, 2 off ratio can become a bit gruelling. I wonder if the amenities really make up for it.
>> No. 12431 Anonymous
18th July 2018
Wednesday 1:48 am
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>>12430

I've never worked on cruise ships but you're right. They don't sound like my cup of tea but I've heard they can be a good laugh. Tiny cabins, low pay, putting up with guests, long trips, and from what I hear surprisingly unprofessional. Plus junior bridge officers are basically just radar operators. You won't have many duties, so there's lots you won't learn. If you get a job on a standby boat, you'll be in charge of a bridge watch (not understudying) and you'll be doing the chart work and you'll be doing the safety checks, so you'll learn a lot faster.

If you work on a cruise ship, you'll have the opportunity to get pissed up and you'll meet some top international strange. So it's your choice.
>> No. 12433 Anonymous
19th July 2018
Thursday 4:56 pm
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>>12431
I recall reading from a former cruise line employee that the underlings always have their own semi-official bar buried deep in the bowels of the ship that as a passenger you will never, ever be allowed to enter and it's basically a crazed, gin-soaked, all-hours bacchanalia. He evinced surprised that anyone was ever sober enough to do their job.
>> No. 12434 Anonymous
19th July 2018
Thursday 8:12 pm
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>>12433

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