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>> No. 5761 Anonymous
8th October 2014
Wednesday 9:35 pm
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Evening, Mumsnet lads.

I'm running low on ideas of what to read to my son [7]. We're working our way through the Mr Gum books and if I can't think of something when we're finished my other half will probably subject him to Enid Blyton. We've read The Hobbit and all of Ronald Dahl's books for children but I don't know where to go next, possibly Harry Potter (although I've never read them so I don't know what they're like) or maybe something by Terry Deary as he's obsessed with ancient Egypt. Goosebumps?

I'd be grateful for any tips. Any books you were particularly fond of from your childhood?
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>> No. 6769 Anonymous
8th May 2018
Tuesday 10:11 pm
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>>6759
I'm working with some very hazy recollections of the Artemis Fowl series, but wasn't Domovoi/Butler (and by extent Juliet) heavily implied to be of Balkan-to-Middle-East ish extraction? Y'know, somewhere that used to be part of the Ottoman Empire, full of olive skin and dark hair. Fucking Georgia or Armenia or somewhere. A country with an appropriately violent and tragic backstory to produce someone as gruff as Butler.

Weirdly the only casting I can think of that fulfils my mental image of Butler is Dwayne 'The Rock' Johnson but only because he's meant to be an elite operative mountain with a deeply hidden fudgy heart. I realise I'm shit at casting for ethnicity.

Zero fucking idea on Holly or Artemis either. This film is going to be a fucking $130million disappointment from start to finish.
>> No. 6770 Anonymous
8th May 2018
Tuesday 10:23 pm
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>>6769
>Weirdly the only casting I can think of that fulfils my mental image of Butler is Dwayne 'The Rock' Johnson but only because he's meant to be an elite operative mountain with a deeply hidden fudgy heart. I realise I'm shit at casting for ethnicity

Dave Bautista would fit the bill, off the top of my head.l
>> No. 6771 Anonymous
8th May 2018
Tuesday 10:34 pm
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>>6770
Yes.
>> No. 6772 Anonymous
8th May 2018
Tuesday 11:05 pm
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>>6770

He is also Puerto Rican and can act, fitting both diversity quotas and the basic expectations of an audience. Butler is a nuanced character and Dave used to work for a security firm and was a night club bouncer, he is actually perfect.
>> No. 6773 Anonymous
9th May 2018
Wednesday 12:48 am
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>>6769
I always thought of Butler as Pierluigi Collina.

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>> No. 6711 Anonymous
17th December 2017
Sunday 2:09 pm
6711 Non-fiction adventure, exploration, science biography
After being impressed by the biographies of astronauts Scott Parazynski, Chris Hadfield and Scott Kelly, I'm searching for more biographies of adventurous and high-achieving people.

To narrow that down a bit, I'm especially interested in those who travel to unique or unusual places, and are driven more by science and desire for knowledge rather than military or diplomatic careers (though I can accept those line blurs depending on context).

Historical and contemporary examples welcome.
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>> No. 6721 Anonymous
19th December 2017
Tuesday 8:54 pm
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I am enjoying this very much. Marshall was the US Army's chief
of staff during World War 2 and went on to create the European Recovery Act also known as the Marshall Plan. He is highlighted as one of these very successful people who eschewed promotions and never sought the limelight.
>> No. 6741 Anonymous
12th March 2018
Monday 11:46 am
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This wasn't bad: "Race to Dakar" by Charley Boorman, the rich, obnoxious twat who accompanied Ewan McGregor on his motorbike trip in "Long Way Round". The book chronicles his attempt to run the Dakar Rally with a small support team and a cameraman, with the idea of making a TV series about it later.

I've always enjoyed watching the Rally, but details about the rules, day-to-day life, etc. are hard to come by. The book gives more of an inside perspective that you don't see on Eurosport or the Youtube channel. I was worried that Boorman's cuntishness would ruin it, but this doesn't really come through in the book.
>> No. 6742 Anonymous
13th March 2018
Tuesday 2:58 am
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>>6741

Is Boorman that bad? I enjoyed some of Long Way Round.
>> No. 6743 Anonymous
13th March 2018
Tuesday 4:55 am
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>>6742
Mate, he's rich. That means he's practically Satan.
>> No. 6755 Anonymous
16th April 2018
Monday 9:25 pm
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>>6742

The "rich and obnoxious" part is by his own admission. He actually comes across as pretty chill and interesting.

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>> No. 5456 Anonymous
4th April 2014
Friday 3:02 am
5456 Vurt
This was really good.
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>> No. 6736 Anonymous
20th January 2018
Saturday 1:13 am
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>>6733
A minge maul.
>> No. 6737 Anonymous
20th January 2018
Saturday 10:12 am
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I've been thinking about it some more, and it may actually be a new disguised form of cunt-off:

*That's a very interesting post*
> You're a cunt.

*Thanks lad*
> You too.
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20th January 2018
Saturday 12:06 pm
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>>6737
Damning with faint praise, I think it's called.
>> No. 6740 Anonymous
31st January 2018
Wednesday 9:42 pm
6740 Ian Rankin - Rebus books 15, 16, 17, 17.1, 17.2, 18, 19, 21, 22
Fleshmarket Close 2004)
The Naming of the Dead (2006)
Exit Music (2007)
Standing in Another Man's Grave (2012)
Saints of the Shadow Bible (2013)
The Complaints (2009) - Malcolm Fox
The Impossible Dead (2011) - Malcolm Fox
Even Dogs in the Wild (2015)
Rather Be the Devil (2016)

I finished the remaining Rebus novels, as well as the two Fox ones which took place in the chronicity. Malcolm Fox seems like a pointless character, Siobhan is more interesting but rarely develops in any particular fashion. Fox is particularly annoying as he supposedly sticks to the rules and does things by the book as all the other characters are keen to remind him in conversation except he really doesn't, every now and then he'll go against his orders in the most pointless way and achieve nothing at all by it.
The Naming of the Dead stuck out in particular as of all the books it had the most life to it, Rankin seemed energised by the G8 protests and how much he hates Bono. Exit Music and Even Dogs in the Wild had some particularly melancholy moments which I enjoyed.
As the stories progress into the later books (16+) it seems like someone was teaching Rankin about actual organised crime, so they begin to be a bit convoluted in a dull way all to do with buying property and banking investments. Once or twice this is done well but the rest of the time I wasn't terribly impressed. One case in particular was a retrospective thing about how all the gangsters invested in the land around the Scottish Parliament in the pre-2000 referendum and the fallout from that, then later there's a book where they're investing again in the land for the more recent referendum, but when that fails the next book ignores it.
Some odd things in the chronology; Rebus seems to forget his father was dead in one book, and the biography of Big Ger written at the end of one book has been totally forgotten by everyone involved a few books later when someone else proposes writing one.
I'm amused that the early cases sometimes take weeks and months with years in between, then the more recent ones all seem to happen in a matter of days, something that Rankin started doing presumably when he realised Rebus was about to reach the age of retirement and is now getting very old, but wanting to keep writing more books.
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>> No. 6774 Anonymous
21st May 2018
Monday 10:31 pm
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While I am usually a fan of the memoirs and autobiographies of the users, the junkies, the alcoholics, life's general riff-raff that end up laid up at the lower stratas of society, this one left me not just unfulfilled but also fairly sad that I'd bothered to read it all.

If we can all agree that there is no point in reading (or writing, for that matter) something that you, or at least someone else, can’t learn anything from then we have no choice but to conclude that this is a useless book written by a useless person.

For there is nothing to learn here at all. No musings on the causes, mechanisms, whys, or wherefores of addiction or the visceral drive towards self destruction; about the deepest this book gets (and I paraphrase) is "and then I spent a few years letting gross men I didn't know bundle me into nightclub toilets and give me cocaine before later pulling me onto their laps in taxis while unzipping their fly, but you know how it is, right girls?!?!?".

Even Sarah Hepola's snooze-fest Blackout: Remembering the Things I Drank to Forget or Burroughs Junior's ungainly, lurching memoir Speed have a comparative ocean of insight and a lot less "My dad was distant and my mother hated me and Kurt Cobain died, and here's a vague description of how I did a lot of dumb shit despite being born with a silver spoon in my mouth without even an attempt at self-contemplation about why I might have done so" when compared to this.

tl;dr - A pointless book by a pointless person, even her beauty columns had more to say about life than this and I'm a heterosexual male whose idea of looking after myself is trying to remember to get my hair cut more than once a year.

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>> No. 6686 Anonymous
13th October 2017
Friday 1:47 pm
6686 Cyberpunk
I just finished reading most of William Gibson's work. I love his creativity and scene building, but most of his stories are quite horribly written, and he obviously has issues with women.

Are there any cyberpunk novels with a somewhat more realistic view of human nature? The only other author I know is Neal Stephenson, and his stuff is fedora tier.
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>> No. 6705 Anonymous
27th October 2017
Friday 3:23 am
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>>6699

> I'm not sure why everyone like to suck Gibson's dick for Neuromancer (1984), considering Blade Runner and Tron (1982).
> Gibson didn't innovate anything in particular, he just got lucky and was made into a symbol.

What Gibson really achieved with the sprawl trilogy, far beyond his unrealistic imaginings of cyberspace or his prediction of the Internet of Things was capturing the hearts and minds of an entire subculture of teenage hackers and phreaks. Gibson was able to capture both the thrill of hacking and drive and desire to hack incredibly well, while also fueling the fires of many a teenage fantasy that they could one day be a "cyberspace cowboy" or a "digital samurai" selling their hacking talents to the highest bidder (which, to be fair, most of us actually are).

Essentially the "cyberpunk dystopia" setting was entirely arbitrary and interchangable; other than the silly bit where the AIs merge and become the matrix, Case and Bobby's stories could have been transplanted into any setting with technology advanced enough for Gibson's mumbo jumbo to pass muster and the trilogy would still have had the same success.

>>6701
> Snowcrash a couple of years ago I thought they were just simply bad. Terrible pacing, trite characterisation... just badly written in general.

Did Stephenson ever really write any sincere cyberpunk fiction? Snowcrash was an on-point lampoon of cyberpunk for the most part, with every character, idea and scenario stereotyped and turned up to 11 for (admittedly negligible) comedic effect (Hiro Protagonist? Come on).
>> No. 6722 Anonymous
23rd December 2017
Saturday 7:53 am
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I liked those movies, although the Sprawl novels are much longer and have a lot more details. I might check out Judge Dredd again, it was very similar to Gibson's world but didn't take itself as seriously IIRC.

The '60s novels are not bad. One I enjoyed was "Player Piano" by Kurt Vonnegut. He is not as imaginative as William Gibson, but his characters are a lot better, except for the poor people. You can tell that he was a little too bourgeois to let his imagination run wild, or get into the heads of real poor people. I also enjoyed seeing a novel from over 50 years ago deal with the "robots will steal our jobs" nonsense.
>> No. 6723 Anonymous
23rd December 2017
Saturday 2:54 pm
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>>6701
I enjoyed the first half of Snow Crash. Neuromancer, Altered Carbon, most of the cyberpunk canon just seem a bit gay. I'm interested in Seveneves by Stephenson, if anybody has an opinion to provide.

My favourite sci-fi novel is Ender's Game. I've tried two other Orson Scott Card books from the "Enderverse" and they're utter shite.
>> No. 6724 Anonymous
23rd December 2017
Saturday 5:23 pm
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>>6723
> I enjoyed the first half of Snow Crash. Neuromancer, Altered Carbon

What stopped you from reading the second halves, or were the second halves magically universally shit?
>> No. 6725 Anonymous
24th December 2017
Sunday 8:20 pm
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>>6724

He wouldn't know, would he?

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>> No. 6679 Anonymous
30th September 2017
Saturday 12:26 am
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How can I read faster?
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>> No. 6685 Anonymous
2nd October 2017
Monday 12:45 pm
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Skim the bits with little useful information, read the useful bits more slowly and take copious, well-organised notes. Learn about concepts like the forgetting curve, spaced repetition and chunking.
>> No. 6687 Anonymous
13th October 2017
Friday 1:59 pm
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1. When I start a book, I read the first chapter, and if I'm not hooked by the end of it I skip the whole book.

2. If I'm still reading after the first chapter and get to a boring patch, I read the first sentence of every page until it gets interesting again.

3. If it's clear that the author is padding out his work, or intentionally obfuscating it to hide its meaning from the plebs (Edward Bernays, Daniel Kahneman, etc.), I read the last paragraph of the whole work.

Every so often, I'll pick up a book I skipped before and try it again. As I have gotten older, some books have started making more sense to me while others have lost their appeal.
>> No. 6695 Anonymous
13th October 2017
Friday 8:43 pm
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>>6683
I FOR ONE DO NOT OWN A TELEVSION
>> No. 6696 Anonymous
14th October 2017
Saturday 8:33 pm
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>>6679

TL: DR
>> No. 6697 Anonymous
14th October 2017
Saturday 11:02 pm
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>>6695

FUCKING MARXIST BBC SHIT TAX

TV LICENCE = COMMUNIST POLL TAX

TELL THEM TO FUCK OFF STUPID CUNTS

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>> No. 6624 Anonymous
9th September 2017
Saturday 9:35 pm
6624 GURPS
anyone know where I can get the PDF's? books are quite expensive...
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>> No. 6662 Anonymous
13th September 2017
Wednesday 9:47 pm
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>>6661
Just FYI, all the Anne Fine stuff I could find on undernet and bibliotik is in that mega, except for an audiobook of some sort that I skipped for the sake of my ratio.
>> No. 6663 Anonymous
13th September 2017
Wednesday 10:09 pm
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>>6662 thanks
>> No. 6664 Anonymous
14th September 2017
Thursday 12:05 am
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Is GURPS really any good though? I played a bit of Discworld GURPS back in the day and it didn't wow me. I feel like it'd be easier to design my own system than bother learning a new one, tbh...
>> No. 6665 Anonymous
14th September 2017
Thursday 3:49 pm
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>>6664
Gurps does my nut in for the sheer blandness of it. If you want a system that does nothing to reinforce the individual thematic tone of a setting but gives you a clearly defined set of rules then this is the system for you.

In glorious Soviet regime all other RPG systems are banned as decadent bourgeois opiates of the masses. Praise the Generic Universal Role Playing System of the Soviet People!
>> No. 6666 Anonymous
14th September 2017
Thursday 9:15 pm
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>>6664 For what I want I believe so.

>>6665 if you or anyone else can recommend a role playing system then I'm all ears.

I'll tell you lot what it is and then a recommendation?

its a ww2 style game set in the 80's where Hitler won the war by dropping it on Washington first. it starts as a basic rescue mission and will have a bit of lore that I'm writing for padding out. then it turns into Hitler's mission to Mars and the summoning of Cthulhu by Hitler in exchange for a longer life as he's 85 by '84 but Hitler misunderstood the wrath of the elder gods and the heros end up stopping all of this.
That's the wide arc of this and the problem I had was finding something that fitted with "conventional" weapons pistols, rifles and what not, along with some basic DnD stuff like for example; Arcane strike = experimental rifle that's found.
a lot of this would be home brewed but the struggle is with finding something that works. the Grit mechanic in DnD wasn't appealing so I thought something basic would.

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>> No. 6094 Anonymous
6th August 2015
Thursday 1:10 am
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Here's a cute, English girl talking about Philosophy.
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>> No. 6174 Anonymous
30th September 2015
Wednesday 4:56 pm
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>>6094
I'd love to get Dionysian with her.
>> No. 6175 Anonymous
30th September 2015
Wednesday 5:31 pm
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>>6174
Is this satyre?
>> No. 6176 Anonymous
30th September 2015
Wednesday 6:15 pm
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>>6094
Phwoar I'd Noam her Chomsky IYKWIM
>> No. 6177 Anonymous
1st October 2015
Thursday 12:42 pm
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>>6174
>>6176
I want to fuck her
>> No. 6620 Anonymous
13th July 2017
Thursday 2:42 pm
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Here's a fit asian talking about books

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kthwIPvepNs

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>> No. 6605 Anonymous
25th June 2017
Sunday 12:00 pm
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Morning, lads.

It's my birthday coming up and there's very little I actually want so I thought I'd primarily ask for books (I'm >>/job/11278), although I'm not entirely sure which ones to ask for so I'd be grateful for recommendations please, lads.

Authors I like include, but are not limited to, Bill Bryson, Hunter S Thompson, Philip Pullman, Terry Pratchett, Douglas Adams, Iain Banks, Jon Ronson, Philip K Dick, John Lanchester, George Orwell, Olaf Stapledon, Kurt Vonnegut, Joseph Heller, Aldous Huxley, etc. That sort of thing.

Thanks, lads.
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>> No. 6606 Anonymous
25th June 2017
Sunday 12:41 pm
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>Aldous Huxley, George Orwell


You'd probably like 'We' by Yevgeny Zamyatin. I've never read it but it is very much in that dystopia style, and I've heard good things.
>> No. 6607 Anonymous
25th June 2017
Sunday 12:54 pm
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You could try Paolo Bacigalupi, Hannu Rajaniemi or Vurt. Stanislaw Lem?
'We' isn't a terribly exciting book if you've already read 1984 and BNW, it's more of the same (although it was written first).
>> No. 6608 Anonymous
25th June 2017
Sunday 2:52 pm
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>>6605

Seconding Vurt.

Other ones from here I can remember going through are the Illuminatus! trilogy and possibly also the Red Mars series.

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>> No. 6587 Anonymous
8th April 2017
Saturday 11:01 pm
6587 Immunology
I'm looking for a book about the human immune system, could any of you lads recommend one? I'm a beginner with no formal training what so ever.
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>> No. 6589 Anonymous
9th April 2017
Sunday 3:14 am
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>>6588

Who do I call if I have Djinn problem? Is there a halal equivalent of Ghostbusters?
>> No. 6590 Anonymous
9th April 2017
Sunday 7:23 am
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Immunology is a complex topic. Unless you took A-levels in chemistry and biology fairly recently, you're unlikely to learn much from a typical undergraduate immunology textbook. An introductory course in biology from Coursera or Khan Academy might be a good start; if you're really keen, you could do A-levels or an Access to HE course at your local FE college.
>> No. 6591 Anonymous
9th April 2017
Sunday 10:57 am
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>>6588

Oh do piss off you idiot.
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9th April 2017
Sunday 3:13 pm
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>>6587
Immunology looks fascinating and incredibly complex. As the previous poster pointed out, if you have no formal training you're probably going to be reading gibberish. Hell, I have a Chemistry A-level and a degree in Physics (he wrote smugly) and I doubt I'd get much of what I was reading, at least at the level where I wasn't just repeating things by rote.

If you really want to study immunology, which is a highly admirable ambition, I'd recommend first studying chemistry at an adult education college then seeing what mature student courses are available. From what I understand mature students are sought after since they're genuinely pursuing a dream as opposed to wandering into x subject since they assume uni is what they should do at that age.

Either way I wish you all the best m7.
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13th April 2017
Thursday 3:32 pm
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>>6587
I'd recommend "Biology: The Science of Life" by Robert A. Wallace, if you can find it. It's just a general biology textbook, but well written and a good introduction.

After that, I have no idea. I used this one:
https://www.amazon.com/Immunology-Fifth-Richard-Goldsby/dp/0716749475/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1492093607&sr=8-3

It will be rough going no matter what. You basically have to memorize an alphabet soup of enzymes and ligands. Worse, everything is unintuitively named because it was discovered by accident or for some reason unrelated to its function. For example, the enzyme "XP" is named after the disease it causes, Xeroderma Pigmentosa, rather than its function (DNA repair).

t. used to work in the immunology department at MIT.

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>> No. 6548 Anonymous
9th February 2017
Thursday 9:44 am
6548 Alternative history
About 15 years ago a mate mentioned a series of books in which the Vikings and the Native Americans had the first industrial revolution.

Anyone got an idea what the fuck they are called or who the author was? I don't think it is Alan Smale from what I have read.

I am desperate to read them, because it is really pissing me off that I cannot find them.
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>> No. 6570 Anonymous
11th March 2017
Saturday 7:25 pm
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>>6569
Gina? Vaginas did not discover America. I meant to say China, fucking autocorrect.
>> No. 6571 Anonymous
12th March 2017
Sunday 11:05 am
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>>6569

Except it is utter bollocks. But thank you for trying to help, I do appreciate it.
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13th March 2017
Monday 11:15 pm
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>>6571
Which part of the book did you find to be falsifiable or far fetched?
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15th March 2017
Wednesday 5:39 pm
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>>6573

Well, if I am thinking about the same book, the fact that the thing is utter Chinese propaganda bullshit?
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15th March 2017
Wednesday 7:19 pm
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>>6570
<Insert obligatory joke about Columbus being a massive fanny here.>

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>> No. 6538 Anonymous
17th January 2017
Tuesday 6:00 am
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The Bo Weevil Club Book: Memoir of a Nerd Child

http://amycat1010.blogspot.ca/2016/12/the-bo-weevil-club-book.html
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>> No. 6539 Anonymous
17th January 2017
Tuesday 1:05 pm
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You're an odd woman.
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17th January 2017
Tuesday 2:06 pm
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I hope you're well Emily.

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>> No. 6528 Anonymous
18th November 2016
Friday 8:31 pm
6528 Audiobooks
This past year I have been listening to audiobooks on my walks and find the experience to be quite enjoyable. However whilst there is no end of recommendations for written works I feel as if there should be a distinction between a good book and a good audio book due to how written work translates into the spoken word and the narrators delivery.

That may or may not sound strange to you but I was hoping we could have an audiobook recommendation thread. Tell us about the works you have enjoyed and why so we can all go for contemplative walks or listen to something on our commute beyond the same songs day-in day-out.

I would like to start by recommending a classic or rather Classic American Short Stories as narrated by William Roberts. It is of course a collection of short stories from authors such as Twain and Bierce that whilst working on a range of themes and styles I feel all work perfectly as something you would hear by a camp-fire.
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>> No. 6530 Anonymous
18th November 2016
Friday 9:03 pm
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I've been spending the past few months listening through the works of Robert A. Heinlein.

It's definitely worth trying at least a few, even if you don't think that science fiction from the 50s and 60s is your cup of tea.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Oshl5XsmxU
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18th November 2016
Friday 9:18 pm
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I've been enjoying Lincoln by Gore Vidal recently. Also, I've been told The Things They Carried, narrated by Brian Cranston, is a good listen.
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20th November 2016
Sunday 5:06 pm
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This talk of science fiction reminded me that I've had Flowers for Algernon on my reading list for some time. There is a torrent floating online for it.

The first person reporting writing style lends itself well to audiobook format and it works well as a story too. By and large what happens has been spoiled by references in pop-culture but its still enjoyable and on some level I relate to the main character because we've all been the dippy lad at work in our teens.

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>> No. 6516 Anonymous
11th November 2016
Friday 12:39 am
6516 Journaling
Does anyone here keep a diary or written journal?

As I approach a quarter of a century I start to think more and more that one day I may appreciate having some recollections of my youth. I'm interested as to what techniques or practice anyone here brings to their own personal log, whether written or digital.

Any tips for keeping it up, or discussion on what kind of details you find important to include and those you don't bother with. Tell me about your journals.
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>> No. 6522 Anonymous
12th November 2016
Saturday 6:32 pm
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I used to write in journals daily for a couple of years but then binned the lot after re reading years later.

Like most people that grow up and realise that they were a clueless naive stupid fucker, I didn't want writings to remind me that I was a clueless naive stupid fucker.
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12th November 2016
Saturday 6:47 pm
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I kept a diary of all my nightly dreams for six months when I was 17. Sadly long since left at the parental house and chucked out. You had to write the dream down fast before it disappears or was forgotten and I remember doing that straight away every morning. It was an interesting discipline to try.
>> No. 6524 Anonymous
12th November 2016
Saturday 8:42 pm
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>>6521

Taking notes, self-improvement in general, life as a whole?
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12th November 2016
Saturday 8:54 pm
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>>6524

Pretty much.
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13th November 2016
Sunday 8:14 pm
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>>6520
That sounds exactly like my current notebook. There's more shopping lists and WiFi passwords in it than there are memories, so perhaps I'll carry on using it as such. Summarising books you've read sounds tedious to me, but perhaps I should try to reflect on what I read more; I eat my way through fiction and treat books as more of an escape than any way to challenge myself though, so perhaps it's not really translatable.

>>6522
I'm writing them in the knowledge that I'll grow up and find myself naive and pretentious. I'm alright with it, though it is rather cringe-inducing to read how I wrote even 5 years ago. But that's life, mate.

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>> No. 6463 Anonymous
31st August 2016
Wednesday 8:26 pm
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Does anyone know of a good book concerning the translation and interpretation of the Quran in simple English? I would really appreciate it.
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>> No. 6505 Anonymous
25th September 2016
Sunday 5:10 am
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>>6502

The bible became codified at the Council of Nicaea in 325 AD.

So no, only the interpretation and 'translation' has been changed (parts conveniently ignored and amended to reinforce an interpretation). Weirdly the Torah didn't become codified until the 11th century which makes the Christian account more accurate. The dead sea scrolls are far enough away from either in their content to undermine any concept of divine truth contained within though.
>> No. 6506 Anonymous
25th September 2016
Sunday 1:19 pm
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>>6500
The proper way to respond to them is to point out that God also hates figs.
>> No. 6507 Anonymous
25th September 2016
Sunday 5:03 pm
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>>6505
No. The Da Vinci Code is not historically accurate. The Council Of Nicea did not decide which books would go in the Bible, that was decided a century before by a document called the Muratorian Canon. A fragment of it was found and it had a list of books very similar to the New Testament. Furthermore, a search of what the Church men were saying in the second and third century show that they did not mention any extra books that were then removed by the Council.

>>6502
Purely from a historical perspective, the Quran is the most valid Abrahamic religious text because it was created late enough to have sources from other societies such as the Byzantine and Persian empire comment on it. It was written within one century whereas the Bible is a mish mash of books spanning over five centuries. A lack of independent scrutiny from other civilisations also make the Bible particularly iffy compared to the Quran as we didn't get the account of the Israelites from the Assyrians for example. This is in stark contrast to Islam which faced the wrath of Saint John of Damascus pretty early on.

http://orthodoxinfo.com/general/stjohn_islam.aspx

Furthermore, the archaeological evidence from the various sites mentioned in the Bible do not add up to the historical account. To be fair though, the Quran mentions flying horses and genies and men who were 12 feet tall, so perhaps it's all hogwash.

To GCHQlad: I have a passing interest in theology, this does not make me a radical nor does this deserve being logged
>> No. 6508 Anonymous
25th September 2016
Sunday 7:47 pm
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>>6507
>The Council Of Nicea did not decide which books would go in the Bible, that was decided a century before by a document called the Muratorian Canon

I stand corrected, I wouldn't touch the 'Da Vinci Code', my source is various public educational institutions which evidently have been telling everyone the wrong thing (it seems to be a common enough misconception the Wikipedia page even mentions it).
>> No. 6509 Anonymous
25th September 2016
Sunday 9:02 pm
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>>6507
>this does not make me a radical nor does this deserve being logged

If you've done nothing wrong, you've nothing to fear lad. I'll mark the file for you.

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