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>> No. 4165 Anonymous
4th May 2018
Friday 8:27 pm
4165 Upcoming MOT test changes
Some changes to the MOT test are happening this month.
Reporting of defects is changing from Fail/Advisory, to Major/Minor/advisory, as well as changes to the format of the certificate.

There have also been a few new items added to the test, including:
>checking if brake pads or discs are missing
I'm rather amused by the implication that I could have got a car with worn out pads to pass an MOT simply by removing them altogether.
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>> No. 4166 Anonymous
4th May 2018
Friday 8:43 pm
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They're coming down hard on diesels, actually checking for blanked EGR valves and missing DPF's now, and I believe making it harder to pass the emissions tests too.

Probably for the best, but there'll be a load of well looked after trucks failing now.
>> No. 4167 Anonymous
5th May 2018
Saturday 2:53 am
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It's not exactly difficult to install an EGR/DPF just for the test and remove it afterwards, though, is it? From my knowledge it's all on the exhaust side of things which isn't difficult to modify.
>> No. 4168 Anonymous
5th May 2018
Saturday 11:33 am
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It's not particularly, but a lot of chaps will have to buy EGR valves they removed years ago. Anyway it's the emissions that will do a lot of them in. I'm thinking about buying something old enough to be exempt, now.
>> No. 4169 Anonymous
6th May 2018
Sunday 12:33 pm
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>M.C. Peeples

That name sounds like a 90s dance act or techno DJ.
>> No. 4170 Anonymous
9th May 2018
Wednesday 1:38 pm
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Consider a Rover 75 Tourer. Dirt cheap, 600 miles to a tank and full of toys.

>> No. 4155 Anonymous
25th April 2018
Wednesday 9:38 pm
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I was speeding while overtaking a coach on a duel carriageway. Going past a junction, a police car started up it's sirens. I slowed down instantly, and was also approaching a roundabout. I looked in my mirrors but I couldn't see them heading my way, so I carried on going and took my intended exit. They made no attempt to follow me or pull me over as far as I can tell.

It's clear I've done wrong by speeding, but I wasn't sure how to tell if they wanted to flag me down, or the coach (which was also speeding). It is possible that the siren was unrelated (there's a big public event today), that it was used as a warning, or that they already got my details (though it all happened very quickly).

That's all happened now. How should I handle it in the present moment?

Arrows unrelated, but yellow car would be the police car.
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>> No. 4160 Anonymous
25th April 2018
Wednesday 10:51 pm
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Thanks lads. I'll put it out of my mind.
>> No. 4161 Anonymous
26th April 2018
Thursday 12:06 am
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>They can't just eyeball your speed
Yes, they can. The only rule is that away from a motorway, the opinion of one officer alone is not enough.
>> No. 4162 Anonymous
26th April 2018
Thursday 6:44 am
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If you ever see little white squares or circles painted on the road in places, apparently they're to give a reference point to help police calculate speed from video footage.
>> No. 4163 Anonymous
26th April 2018
Thursday 1:14 pm
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Only for helicopters, as I recall.
>> No. 4164 Anonymous
26th April 2018
Thursday 1:25 pm
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If the distance is known, they can be used on the in-car systems to corroborate the reading or if they're unable to keep a constant distance. Or, on a motorway, by an officer in forming his expert opinion.

>> No. 4139 Anonymous
19th April 2018
Thursday 12:28 am
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I bought a bargain barge about this time last year and just managed to bluff it through an mot again. Trouble is I think the automatic gearbox wants to pack up. Symptoms started last year.

When you pedal to the metal from speed or a standstill the box will kickdown into a lower gear and the engine revs up but none of that power is transfered to the wheels, even seeming to be actively braking momentum when trying to accelerate from speed.

All forward gears work fine without problem as long as I'm just wafting around but I'm no granddad and not having the ability to power through an overtake is a bit of a pisstake seeing as I'm paying over the odds to run a 3 odd litre straight 6.

The ATF was burnt and dark, that's all now fresh as well as a new filter, problem persists. Is a rebuild in order?
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>> No. 4150 Anonymous
21st April 2018
Saturday 2:04 am
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No, sadly.
>> No. 4151 Anonymous
21st April 2018
Saturday 10:08 am
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Must be a beemer though, can't think of another 3L straight 6 with a ZF.
>> No. 4152 Anonymous
21st April 2018
Saturday 11:40 am
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> 3 odd litre straight 6.
Not 3L. So old Jags?
>> No. 4153 Anonymous
21st April 2018
Saturday 12:31 pm
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Ah yes, an old XJ of some sort. I'd guess XJ6 since he said 'barge'.
>> No. 4154 Anonymous
23rd April 2018
Monday 4:01 am
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It's an old XJ40 (XJ6)

Thinking about scrapping it now. I have serious adulting to do unfortunately.

>> No. 4126 Anonymous
31st March 2018
Saturday 5:46 pm
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Any convertiblelads on here?

I've got an S-reg MGF 1.8 MPI. Love it to bits. Photo not mine, but my car looks very similar.

Unbeatable value for money, a specimen in good nick will run you no more than £1,500 at the moment. Now is the time to buy one, as prices can only rise in the next few years.

And parts can be had for a song, as many people are breaking theirs right now. They're quite easy to work on, unlike most modern cars, because even in the mid-90s, they weren't state of the art technology. They were developed by Rover on a shoestring budget, meaning you have many Rover and Austin stock parts in them that weren't latest generation.

Provided you've really got a car that's been well taken care of, they drive like a dream. The mid-engine layout makes tight cornering loads of fun. The 120hp, 1.8-litre Rover K series MPI engine can feel a little doughy above 3500 rpm, but gives you enough thrust to zip up and down curvy country lanes, which are definitely the car's natural habitat. Although they have a top speed of 120 mph, you won't be comfortable at much more than 70 mph.

One mod that really made a difference was throwing out the factory 48mm plastic throttle body and installing the 52mm aluminium throttle body that later MG TFs had as standard. It didn't turn it into a race car, but the engine definitely feels much more alive and responsive.
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>> No. 4133 Anonymous
31st March 2018
Saturday 10:13 pm
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No, but I'm the proud owner of an '08 plate Mazda 2.

I love it to bits, despite the rattles. Mazda really know how to make a car that goes round corners.
>> No. 4134 Anonymous
31st March 2018
Saturday 10:30 pm
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One of my friends had an RX7 for a while, with a rotary engine.

Interesting car. He let me drive it once. I was surprised how smoothly a rotary engine handles.
>> No. 4135 Anonymous
31st March 2018
Saturday 10:34 pm
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I used to have a 323f, Which was a fine car. Nothing overly special, but being Japanese it was well built and never had any major mechanical problems.
>> No. 4137 Anonymous
31st March 2018
Saturday 11:30 pm
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I had an RX8 for a while, loved it, but they're proper money sinks. Not as expensive as keeping an old Porsche or something, but basically any engine trouble means you need to rebuild the thing, and the apex seals eventually go. I spent about two grand on the car then another three on the rebuild and various other stuff within the year. Again, not huge money, but expect to spend it again in 60k miles even if you look after it.

I'd not recommend owning an RX7 or 8 unless you're really, truly psychologically prepared to have to pay a niche specialist to look after your car. I'd say it's not even practical to own one unless you live within towing distance of a rotary garage.

They don't actually break as much as people say they do, but when they do, they really do.

Use a fuck load of oil too, by design. I'm very glad I had one, but I'm also very glad I didn't have to rely on it to take me to work.

RX7s are even better and they're mad little bastards. I do love a rotary, revving up to 12k is something very special in a car.
>> No. 4138 Anonymous
31st March 2018
Saturday 11:53 pm
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I used to have a VW Golf IV cabriolet. Decent car, the Germans know their stuff when it comes to build quality. Not something that exuded a lot of style, but a dependable convertible by all means.

But an older chap crashed into it with his Land Rover at an intersection and it was a complete writeoff. I was going to get another convertible of some kind, but then I ended up buying a Ford Focus instead. Still miss having an open-top car. I can definitely recommend owning one at some point in your life.

>> No. 4072 Anonymous
17th February 2018
Saturday 4:07 pm
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I'm a learner motorcyclist with a displayed L plate and sticker. I just went for a short spin to post a letter, and even on a round trip lasting less than 10 minutes I got a bit of negative attention.

I admit that I'm generally touching only around 20mph around residential roads and I'm slow to change gear/a bit jerky with the clutch, as I'm still getting a feel for how to ride, but the hostility still surprised me.

An example, a young guy in a BMW was pulling out of a driveway and his car was hanging out halfway in the road. I'm about a hundred yards away, so I pull in the clutch, change down and slow down to let him out. He pulls out all the way but is shaking his head at me as he does so.

Though moments later I did get a thank you wave for letting a car pass the opposite way down a narrow street.

I don't get it. Is this sort of hostility standard on the roads? Maybe towards learners or bikes? Did I miss something, or is it always just chance whether you encounter bad attitudes?
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>> No. 4100 Anonymous
18th March 2018
Sunday 1:17 am
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Britfa.gs is my only audience at the moment so I'm happy to hear that. I'm also ashamed for you.
>> No. 4101 Anonymous
19th March 2018
Monday 5:41 pm
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>> No. 4102 Anonymous
19th March 2018
Monday 8:03 pm
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I'm ashamed to say this guy actually handled it a lot more calmly than I did. Then again, he managed to catch up with the person who did it and have a talk, while I was sort of just yelling like a mad cunt as they ran off.
>> No. 4103 Anonymous
21st March 2018
Wednesday 9:36 am
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Should have chased them down, tied a rope around their necks and dragged them through the town at 40 miles an hour.
It's tough but the only way they'll learn.
>> No. 4125 Anonymous
31st March 2018
Saturday 1:00 am
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A bit drastic, but like you said, they have to learn somehow.

>> No. 4104 Anonymous
25th March 2018
Sunday 7:03 am
4104 F1 2018
These halo things look really bad.
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>> No. 4120 Anonymous
25th March 2018
Sunday 4:42 pm
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"UCI illegal" has become a sort of marketing tactic for high end bikes aimed at the dentist prosumer market.
>> No. 4121 Anonymous
25th March 2018
Sunday 4:54 pm
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I was just thinking it may make more sense to have a person laying flat. In fact, is there a motorcycle design of this type? The obvious element of danger is increased, but on the other hand, you would feel like a superhero.
>> No. 4122 Anonymous
25th March 2018
Sunday 5:11 pm
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Watch the helmet camera video and you'll see that an F1 driver is almost always looking sideways to the next corner entry, apex or exit. Putting the bar smack in the middle is actually the least obtrusive place from the driver's perspective.


They tested bubble windscreens, but it distorted the view and gave everyone motion sickness. A bubble screen offers much less protection, because polycarbonate is far weaker than carbon fiber.


The head-first position is an eccentric effort by Graeme Obree; the vast majority of properly quick bikes have a recumbent rather than prone position. The absolutely fastest position is to sit backwards and pedal the rear wheel (it allows for a more streamlined fairing design), but it's not particularly practical for racing. I've owned a couple of lowracer recumbents and they're a joy to ride - as comfortable as an old armchair, but faster than the most hardcore TT bike.
>> No. 4123 Anonymous
25th March 2018
Sunday 5:13 pm
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Surely your neck aches from holding your head up to see forward?
>> No. 4124 Anonymous
25th March 2018
Sunday 5:29 pm
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An adjustable headrest is available if you need it. With the right seat angle, your head balances quite comfortably without any support. The seating position of a lowracer recumbent is remarkably similar to that of an F1 car - it's the best compromise between ergonomics and aerodynamics.


>> No. 4093 Anonymous
10th March 2018
Saturday 4:56 pm
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What is this?
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>> No. 4094 Anonymous
10th March 2018
Saturday 5:04 pm
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As asphalt laying machine.

>> No. 4096 Anonymous
10th March 2018
Saturday 5:40 pm
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Looks to me like a road resurfacing machine - that might be the scraper bit that goes ahead of the actual asphalt laying bit - those usually have a big hopper thing at the back where all the asphalt is poured. So I think >>4094 is almost right. At the front might be some big wire wheels that spin and scrape off the top layer of the old asphalt and prepare the service as a key for the new asphalt on top.

I am always wildly impressed by those bits of kit, whichever end of the machine it is - when you get the whole "train" of them working and resurfacing, they cover a lot of ground very quickly and leave nothing but perfect road in their wake. Looks like a shitty job to do, but I imagine like most road construction jobs they are paid well. Statistically, working on road works is pretty fucking dangerous.

>> No. 4043 Anonymous
9th February 2018
Friday 10:18 pm
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Is it a good idea to buy a fixer-upper if you know fuck all about cars?

I've seen a Porsche 944 for sale that's a category N write-off that I'm considering going for. On the one hand, I'd have no real idea what I'm doing and I'm not a very handy person. I have, however, watched Wheeler Dealers and that's the extent my knowledge goes.


Would a course in car maintenance at night college be a good idea first?
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>> No. 4068 Anonymous
10th February 2018
Saturday 3:42 pm
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Serves you right for plasti-dipping your car, you walloper.
>> No. 4069 Anonymous
10th February 2018
Saturday 6:03 pm
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I bought it like that, I swear. And I wish it was plastidip - the black is literally the paint you use to coat stoves with. I know this because there was still a can of it rattling around in the boot when I took it home.

Apparently some bloke had bought it to try and turn it into a 'mad drift nugget' as the kids say, but he got bored and traded it into a combined MX5/Porsche specialist dealer. I was there buying something or other for the Boxster I had at the time, and saw that in the corner, I remarked on the brutally awful paint job and the dealer told me the story and said I could have it for 500 quid.

It was still down as red on the logbook when I got it too, it was a conviction on wheels that thing.
>> No. 4070 Anonymous
10th February 2018
Saturday 7:54 pm
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You're trying to convince people the MX-5 isn't a womens car, and you pick the video of the car with the marple dash and the dildo-esque gearknob.
Just kidding, it's my dream car and I'm getting one as soon as I have the money and the space. I'm also bisexual and have a large collection of silicone sculptures so maybe I'm biased though.
>> No. 4071 Anonymous
10th February 2018
Saturday 8:21 pm
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>silicone sculptures

Any dragon shaped?
>> No. 4084 Anonymous
24th February 2018
Saturday 9:10 pm
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>I've seen a Porsche 944 for sale that's a category N write-off that I'm considering going for. On the one hand, I'd have no real idea what I'm doing and I'm not a very handy person.

While a 944 should be fairly easy to fix up compared to the modern-day computers on wheels that cars have become, if you're not handy with mechanical repairs, and, crucially, have no place to do them, then it's best to just let it be.

If we're really talking restoration and not just doing the odd brake or wishbone job, then you will just be out of your depth, and no car maintenance course will teach you everything you will need to know in any kind of acceptable amount of time. Realistically, you would almost have to train to be a mechanic entirely.

I do all my own repairs, but while I may not be a trained mechanic, I've got over 20 years hands-on experience in doing so, and know certain things about my cars better than any mechanic ever will. But again, 20 years of practical experience.

Also, people think they can get an expensive car on the cheap if they buy a run-down bucket, but that's only where problems will begin for you. You are going to have to think about how you will source all the parts (if Porsche themselves should still have new parts for a 25-year-old 944, you will probably pay through the nose to them, expect to pay hundreds to thousands on the usual wear-and-tear parts), you will have to be able to judge if used parts that you will buy are still in useable condition, and all the small and big jobs that come with getting a car back in good nick. At the end of it, as an unskilled layman, you are looking at about the same amount of money that you would have to spend on a car of the same type in good condition.

Unless you are positive you know how to remove a transmission from under a car or how to change a timing belt or the valves inside a cylinder head, it's not worth bothering about. Because any number of jobs like that will be waiting for you if the car is really classed as a writeoff.

Sorry. But this kind of job just isn't for you, OP.

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>> No. 3992 Anonymous
20th January 2018
Saturday 11:07 pm
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What's the best way to go about finding cheap insurance? I'm a new driver but I'm in my late 20s so I thought I could get insured fairly cheaply, but that hasn't been the case. My dad tried to add me as a second driver on his old 1.6l saloon, but the insurance company he's with said they couldn't approve it because the engine size was too big for a new driver. I tried various instant quote websites, and the average price was around £2000 a year for 3rd party insurance. I tried the same websites using a shitbox 1.0l Micra as an example, and received quotes of around £1200-£1500 a year for 3rd party insurance. Paying that much for insurance when your car is only worth about £800 seems insane to me.

So how exactly would one go about getting the best insurance deal? Do you get better deals speaking to people over the phone? Do you go through an insurance broker?
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>> No. 4038 Anonymous
5th February 2018
Monday 3:52 am
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Well, they've got to give you a reason for not paying out a claim or voiding your cover, don't they? And to do that they usually have to have some evidence in case you dispute it, no?
>> No. 4039 Anonymous
5th February 2018
Monday 11:37 am
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Their reason is that they think the insured wasn't honest, and if you wanted to dispute it then it would be for you to prove it.
>> No. 4040 Anonymous
5th February 2018
Monday 6:40 pm
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They don't need much evidence, this isn't a court of law.
>> No. 4041 Anonymous
5th February 2018
Monday 6:50 pm
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Presumably that's where it'd end up if they started making shit up to deny claims.
>> No. 4042 Anonymous
5th February 2018
Monday 7:24 pm
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They aren't making shit up to deny claims. They're holding you to the terms of the policy, which you read in full before agreeing to take it out, right?

>> No. 3953 Anonymous
2nd November 2017
Thursday 9:57 am
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Can I fix this with touch up paint?
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>> No. 3987 Anonymous
28th December 2017
Thursday 7:55 pm
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Someone I work with has recently got a Mercedes A Class on finance. They said it was actually cheaper than getting something like a Ford Focus because depreciation is factored into the repayment levels.
>> No. 3988 Anonymous
28th December 2017
Thursday 8:47 pm
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That's true. You're making a loss on almost any car you buy - even classics. It's smarter than many realise to never own a car.
>> No. 3989 Anonymous
29th December 2017
Friday 1:16 pm
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That's true if you see a car as solely a financial investment.

If I buy a classic car, it'll be for the enjoyment of the car, not a potential future profit.
>> No. 3990 Anonymous
29th December 2017
Friday 1:28 pm
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Agreed, I've owned a number of classics and I think it's a bit of a shame some of these machines are kept in storage and never actually driven. It does sort of defeat the point for me.

Nevertheless it's certainly possible to turn a profit on a classic, but only really ones that enthusiasts can stomach being restored. A Dino with non-original parts is simply a money sink, whereas you can buy an old farm Defender, refurbish it and change the engine and still make twenty grands profit.

Sage for just wanting to talk about my Defender project
>> No. 3991 Anonymous
29th December 2017
Friday 4:00 pm
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>Sage for just wanting to talk about my Defender project

Not the other poster, but I'd say go ahead and make a thread. I've had cravings on reading about mechanics and restoration projects since I've just started my own project fixing up a well-loved 125cc motorbike and making it look pretty for a new learner (the new learner being myself).

>> No. 3975 Anonymous
10th November 2017
Friday 11:44 am
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What's the best way to defrost a windscreen?

Some say warm water can damage glass, others say modern glass is tougher.

I sometimes use de-icer but it's not very effective. As someone else puts it:

'while the ice initially melts, very soon the volatile liquid evaporates leaving water and, as any schoolchild will tell you, evaporation causes cooling.

So what you get is a short time of melted ice followed by a screen, which is even colder than when you first began, quickly freezing up again!'

Is there a way of predicting if the windscreen will be frozen the next morning? That way I can put the ice blanket up. Is it below 4°c with a clear sky?
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>> No. 3981 Anonymous
10th November 2017
Friday 4:13 pm
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What if you sprayed de-icer on the windscreen the night before?
>> No. 3982 Anonymous
10th November 2017
Friday 4:33 pm
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My advice is get one of these scrapers which have a long handle.
It actually makes a huge difference for me in being able to clear my windscreen quickly, just thanks to being able to use 2 hands and get a little weight behind it.
>> No. 3983 Anonymous
10th November 2017
Friday 5:34 pm
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Use pre-icer.
>> No. 3984 Anonymous
10th November 2017
Friday 6:22 pm
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I just put the ice blanket on regardless; it might take 20 seconds to remove if you didn't need it but it saves untold minutes when it is needed.
>> No. 3985 Anonymous
11th November 2017
Saturday 5:41 am
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A guy I went to work with used to put clingfilm on the windscreen at night to which the frost would adhere, then just pull it off in the morning before he left for work.

I just used a scraper and de-icer. It doesn't take long. Hot water is useless, it will just cool and freeze to the windscreen.

>> No. 3952 Anonymous
23rd September 2017
Saturday 11:25 am
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Greetings friends.

Brit/o/ is having another meet this year, probably either the last or at least the last big one of the year as the season comes to a close. We will be returning to Shakespeare County Raceway in Warwickshire for a piss up, a bit of drag race spectating and a couple of grudge matches on the strip.

SEE! wild starlets battle ancient Brits
HEAR! the whine of a tired 4A-GE
RECOIL! from ugly Japanese cars
FEEL! the deception as you notice le bulge

We have a pretty diverse group including blacks and grills and attendees will run the gamut from know-nothing pleb to mechanical masters so everyone is welcome.

We usually keep in touch on Slack, an idea so good Nightwave took it (before the admins power tripped and shut down their own chat, which happened before they all drowned RIP)

If you want to join the Slack, post an email here (it must be valid but can be a 10minutemail hobby)

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>> No. 3945 Anonymous
13th September 2017
Wednesday 8:48 pm
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Evening lads.

Is it a bad idea to buy a diesel car? I'm looking to get a big boring family car, most likely a Citroen Picasso, and the overwhelming majority of them are diesels. I know the government announced plans to ban the sale of diesel and electric cars from 2040, with the aim that there are no petrol or diesel cars on the road by 2050, and that diesel cars have been having a lot of bad press recently but I'm wary of getting carried away and it still seems a long way away so I'm on the fence.

Thanks, lads.
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>> No. 3947 Anonymous
13th September 2017
Wednesday 10:22 pm
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I bought a petrol thinking the same thing, but I do regret it now, at least in terms of fuel costs. My mates diesel Golf does about 60 mpg and it's not depressing to drive. I wouldn't worry about what might happen in the future.
>> No. 3948 Anonymous
13th September 2017
Wednesday 10:57 pm
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Recently bought a diesel van, as it's what I want/need now, and may be useful if there's a scrappage scheme at some point.

I think that the 'no ICE from 2040' is merely 'everything new must be at least hybrid', rather than 'everything must be electric'. I'd be surprised if that date isn't comfortably beaten, as a feeble hybrid system is pretty cheap and pretty useful in gaming MPG numbers (and sometimes may even be useful)
>> No. 3949 Anonymous
13th September 2017
Wednesday 11:43 pm
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Agreed, I think that most people will have "feeble" hybrids. There is too much vested infrastructure around to phase it all out too quickly.
>> No. 3950 Anonymous
14th September 2017
Thursday 1:15 am
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I have a twelve year old diesel Renault. Does 66mpg. Can't complain.
>> No. 3951 Anonymous
14th September 2017
Thursday 2:14 pm
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Over the lifespan of a second-hand Picasso, the only thing you've really got to worry about is road tax and fuel duty. There's a possibility that tax hikes could be used to push diesel drivers towards petrol cars. It's unlikely to be totally punitive, but you might find that your cost of ownership goes up, with a commensurate increase in depreciation. I certainly wouldn't buy a brand new diesel, but a five-year-old one would probably be a reasonably sensible purchase.


Zero-emissions zones will make plug-in hybrids a much more attractive option. Dozens of European cities plan on either banning internal combustion completely in the city centre, or introducing a punitive congestion charge. Manufacturers are planning for this with a selective hybrid system, allowing drivers to enter and leave the ZEZ in pure electric mode. Once you've fitted the essential gubbins of a hybrid system, it isn't that much more expensive to add a charging socket and bump the range up to 30 or 40 miles. That kind of range will allow a majority of drivers to make the majority of their journeys on electric power alone.

>> No. 3926 Anonymous
30th August 2017
Wednesday 10:46 pm
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Lads, I'm 24 years old, fresh out of uni working two jobs, how much is it gonna cost me to learn to drive realistically?
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>> No. 3939 Anonymous
1st September 2017
Friday 1:52 am
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This. If you're unsupervised on a provisional, you're driving otherwise. You will also be dead easy for the rozzers to spot unless you're also committing insurance fraud.
>> No. 3940 Anonymous
1st September 2017
Friday 2:15 am
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I did it loads as a kid but there were fewer automated cameras.
>> No. 3941 Anonymous
1st September 2017
Friday 2:16 am
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>A bike is simple, lad.

Motorbikes are far more difficult than cars. There's no traction control, no ABS, two separate brakes and a hand-operated clutch. If you lock the front wheel, you're pretty much guaranteed to crash hard. You have to constantly scan for road hazards that could put you on your arse - a diesel spill, a pothole, a wet road marking or manhole cover, bits of debris. In addition to the standard on-road test bikers have to take an additional bike handling test on a closed course.

If you do cock it up, you don't have a seat belt or air bags to help you. Your only crumple zone is a polystyrene hat. When things go wrong on a bike, they go very wrong very quickly.
>> No. 3943 Anonymous
1st September 2017
Friday 2:37 am
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Thanks lad(s). I was interested in serious responses but also half taking the mick out of OPs idiosyncratic posting style.

I will admit that leaving driving until this late is a pain because getting large blocks of time / days off to commit to intensive courses (I could do an hour or two a day for however long but that's about the limit) is difficult. Also theoretically I could get my wife to sit in the passenger seat while I potter around at 30mph and get road raged at in the Fiat I bought her. That's a good idea thanks for bringing that up.
>> No. 3944 Anonymous
1st September 2017
Friday 4:27 pm
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Mate... It's a bike...

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