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>> No. 27266 Anonymous
28th August 2020
Friday 5:21 pm
27266 Corona thread #3
Right, now that the last corona thread is over 1,700 posts long, maybe it's time for a new one.

How long do you think it will be until we're fully back to normal?
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>> No. 27842 Anonymous
20th September 2020
Sunday 10:08 pm
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Can't really blame them. It is a private company, and unless the terms of the contract specify things like prioritising work, etc, then there is nobody to blame but the central government.

Would be lovely to see what their tender/bidder response was, and what the terms of the contract are.

This is what privatisation gets you lads.
>> No. 27843 Anonymous
20th September 2020
Sunday 10:21 pm
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>>27842
>Can't really blame them. It is a private company, and unless the terms of the contract specify things like prioritising work, etc, then there is nobody to blame but the central government.
Both they and (this) central government are motivated by the same greed.
>> No. 27844 Anonymous
20th September 2020
Sunday 10:25 pm
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>>27842

>This is what privatisation gets you lads.

If they're too dim to draw up a sensible contract, I'm not optimistic about their ability to commission services in-house.
>> No. 27850 Anonymous
21st September 2020
Monday 3:53 am
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>>27844
No one is looking to commission ANYTHING in-house anymore. Even Labour councils in bum-fucking nowhere don't do it. In fact, a few councils started "downsizing" and started a major privatisation work. Not sure if it was directed by central government because councils were begging for money because of Covid, but that's how it turned out.

The juice is all about contracts to the private sector. I work in commissioning, procurement and finance, and I let out, since March, contracts worth £600 million for both central government and local government. I am not even a senior officer. It's all direct awards, variations, such nonsense.

The best part is "Emergency - Covid", because you can bypass EU procurement regulations too.

Sorry lads, I'm too drunk. I hope Boris doesn't get me.
>> No. 27851 Anonymous
21st September 2020
Monday 4:08 am
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>>27850
>The best part is "Emergency - Covid", because you can bypass EU procurement regulations too.

This is it. Next year when the "public inquiries" start, it won't be the number of people who died that is the scandal, it will be the millions that we've pissed away on fake furlough, the millions (!) of fake meals we pissed away on eat-out-to-help-out and other schemes, and how many of the contracts being hurriedly signed right now bypassed all the normal procurement rules.

This will be the scandal of the past six months that will haunt taxpayers for years to come and will cause a change of government.

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>> No. 27669 Anonymous
14th September 2020
Monday 5:11 pm
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‘Hitler youths’ using Instagram to recruit children

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/hitler-youths-using-instagram-to-recruit-children-xfgnglklv
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>> No. 27845 Anonymous
20th September 2020
Sunday 10:39 pm
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>>27819

It's a state of mind as much as anything. I know pensioners who are still youthful and dynamic, and people in their mid-twenties who have basically given up. Being curious and engaged and willing to change your mind is far more important than how many birthdays you've had IMO. Even if you're physically in decline, you can still grow as a person.
>> No. 27846 Anonymous
20th September 2020
Sunday 11:35 pm
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>>27845

Quite. And if you keep pushing yourself to keep doing new and interesting things, then that's not only a sign that you're still switched on, but it can actually slow down your brain's aging process altogether. There have been studies that if given the chance, you can be almost as quick to pick up new things as you were in your younger days. It's called neuroplasticity, and it was once thought that it fades dramatically with age, but if you keep challenging your brain even in middle age, then a lot of that ability can be retained into your 50s or 60s.

What I do struggle with being in my mid-40s are the new currents of public opinion and social acceptance of certain things that have taken hold in the last 15 years or so. I know that just by not being the same generation as all the Millennials or even people that came after them, I'll never quite relate to them. But their views on such things as identity politics or social justice are just something that I can't get my head around. I'm sort of stuck in the late 90s to early 2000s with most of my opinions in that respect. Most people forget that those were liberal times, too, and that the envelope just hadn't been pushed as far as it has today. We weren't homophobes, or racists or sexists. In fact, we thought that people in our parents' generation were. But I guess that always depends on what your vantage point is. My parents seemed to spell the end of all that was good and holy to my grandparents when my mum and dad decided to wear their hair long, listen to hard rock, and join student protests in the late 60s.
>> No. 27847 Anonymous
21st September 2020
Monday 12:05 am
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>>27846

>I'm sort of stuck in the late 90s to early 2000s with most of my opinions in that respect. Most people forget that those were liberal times, too, and that the envelope just hadn't been pushed as far as it has today. We weren't homophobes, or racists or sexists.

There's a lot of try-hard bullshit in lefty politics and always has been, but I think the young people do have a point in this respect - we were a little bit racist and sexist and homophobic back in the early 00s, we just didn't realise it.

To our generation, it's obvious that something like The Black and White Minstrel Show is totally unacceptable, but we grew up with a lot of really iffy stuff on telly. It's natural to feel attacked when people are criticising things that you fondly remember, but if we can't face up to our mistakes then we're no better than previous generations. It'd be quite remarkable if we had just completely solved discrimination and there was no more progress to be made.

There's a vocal minority of twats on Twitter, but mostly young people strike me as thoughtful, sensitive and deeply principled. They've handled lockdown with far more maturity than I would have, they're leading the way on climate change and they're remarkably stoical in the face of inheriting an absolute shit-show.


>> No. 27848 Anonymous
21st September 2020
Monday 1:04 am
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>>27847
>There's a vocal minority of twats on Twitter, but mostly young people strike me as thoughtful, sensitive and deeply principled. They've handled lockdown with far more maturity than I would have, they're leading the way on climate change and they're remarkably stoical in the face of inheriting an absolute shit-show.

You sound like an online journalist m8. What else do the coming generation do that you're on your soapbox about?
>> No. 27849 Anonymous
21st September 2020
Monday 3:34 am
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>>27846
I'm on the same boat (a bit older), but as an non white. Things were much more inclusive then (in your class) - but only because racism was overt (back in the 90s/80s compared to now). I don't know how to explain it. I don't want to say the bourgeois, corporate and media types are stamping out how it was, but it truly feels that way. There was a real understanding, whether you were brown, white or black, we were all fucking proletariats & peasants, and we looked out for each other (at least in London and Bristol). Now, everyone is an individual, and nobody can match the state. Union memberships have crashed since the 30s. Wtf? How?

I hate this shit, and my kids don't understand it when I get too drunk and rant. I'm just the mental old uncle/dad from a "century" ago.

Fuck off.

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>> No. 27223 Anonymous
28th August 2020
Friday 9:27 am
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Push to get staff back to offices amid warning of UK's 'ghost towns'

Workers will be encouraged to return to the office as part of a major media campaign to be launched by the government next week. The television and newspaper messages will promote the government’s aim to reduce the number of employees working from home amid fears that town and city centres are becoming ghost areas as workers stay away.

A report in the Telegraph said the campaign would push the emotional and mental health benefits of mixing with colleagues but also said that ministers would warn that those working from home could be more vulnerable to being sacked.


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/aug/28/media-blitz-to-get-workers-back-to-offices-amid-pandemic

Fuck off. Fuck off. Fuck off. Fuck off. Fuck off.
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>> No. 27712 Anonymous
16th September 2020
Wednesday 3:39 pm
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>>27703
What the fuck? Talk to your union.
>> No. 27714 Anonymous
16th September 2020
Wednesday 6:29 pm
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>>27711
I suspect I'm getting half the story, but I do know that the admin staff still WFH are working an hour a day longer than those going into the office. It'll probably turn out that those in the office are working 5 hours per week less than they're contracted to.
>> No. 27715 Anonymous
16th September 2020
Wednesday 6:59 pm
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>>27714

I would guess it's something to do with people not getting full breaks/lunch hours or what have you due to social distancing in the shared areas of the building.

We were doing that for a while at mine but then some unfathomably small minded tedious bint decided to go on a crusade about how some people were unfairly abusing the ability to have a shorter lunch so they could leave early and then it sort of petered out. There's one of them in every workplace isn't there.
>> No. 27716 Anonymous
16th September 2020
Wednesday 9:16 pm
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>>27703
That's just straight unfair and your employer should be challenged - people WFH are generally putting in far more hours than contracted at the moment.
>> No. 27719 Anonymous
17th September 2020
Thursday 12:27 am
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>>27714
Is this new? Plenty of people were expected to be on their phones or laptops (Phone Guy or not) working on their commute to and fro. It wasn't right then, and it isn't right now.

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>> No. 27658 Anonymous
13th September 2020
Sunday 11:15 am
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So.

(A good day to you Sir!)
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>> No. 27659 Anonymous
13th September 2020
Sunday 11:18 am
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A picture of a headline and a 2 letter word is a shitty start to a thread expecting a proper conversation.
>> No. 27660 Anonymous
13th September 2020
Sunday 11:25 am
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>>27659
So?
>> No. 27661 Anonymous
13th September 2020
Sunday 11:44 am
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>>27660S

It is likely to either die quickly or immediately go off topic because there is not enough information to engage the subject.
>> No. 27663 Anonymous
13th September 2020
Sunday 12:00 pm
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>>27661
Ok lad.

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>> No. 27146 Anonymous
26th August 2020
Wednesday 10:54 pm
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I suppose it's time for a new thread seeing as the previous one is almost at 1,700 posts.

It's been kicking off in America (again) after the police have shot a black man (again). A couple of protesters/rioters have been killed after they were driven by the police towards an alt-right militia, with this planned in advance.
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>> No. 27645 Anonymous
12th September 2020
Saturday 6:59 am
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>>27640

Anyone who has the talent and drive to become an MP could earn more money, do more good in the world and get a lot less shit in a different job. The only real upside is the status of being an MP and the occasional glimpse of fame/notoriety. It takes a very particular sort of person to think "yes, I will take this awful job where everyone hates me".
>> No. 27647 Anonymous
12th September 2020
Saturday 7:31 am
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>>27645
I thought the advantages of being an MP were getting your snout in the trough and making connections that can set you up for life? I've known a few local councillors and many of them are full of their own self importance.
>> No. 27648 Anonymous
12th September 2020
Saturday 8:28 am
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Lad I know from school became a Parish Council member for the Lib Dems at the last election. He's gone from a coke fiend to thinking he's Donald Trump. Had to laugh because he posted on one of the local Facebook pages and threw a fit because nobody knew who he was.
>> No. 27649 Anonymous
12th September 2020
Saturday 8:45 am
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>>27647

There are plenty of jobs where you can stick your snout in the trough without any real risk of being humiliated on Newsnight. Amoral bastards can make a lot more money with a lot less grief in the arms trade or the marketing department of a tobacco company or the shadier end of the financial services industry, but that doesn't offer the ego hit of politics.
>> No. 27650 Anonymous
12th September 2020
Saturday 9:03 am
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>>27648
I used to be in a local Facebook group, Mirfield Matters, and one of the town councillors was a right little brat on there, frequently acting like a petulant child even though he must have been pushing 40. I'm fairly certain he got the role through his mum, who used to be the mayor, and I believe she encouraged him to stand down because he was embarrassing her. The group was changed to private from public because people in the nearby Dewsbury group kept sharing posts taking the piss out of him for doing things like boasting about how he called the police about ungritted roads.

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>> No. 18574 Anonymous
13th March 2019
Wednesday 5:59 pm
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>A passenger says she was left "shaking and upset" when she was told to cover up on a flight.

>Emily O'Connor said cabin crew told her what she was wearing - a crop top and high-waisted trousers - was "inappropriate" and "caused offence".

>She said the manager of the Birmingham to Tenerife flight and staff surrounded her, saying she must put a jacket on.

Phwoar!

Also I'd like to know gs's resident I'll-shag-anything-lad on this.
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>> No. 18943 Anonymous
10th April 2019
Wednesday 6:51 pm
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>>18942
>hasn't had a reply in a day or two
... or twenty-something. I mean, I don't think anyone would have minded had it actually been funny.
>> No. 18944 Anonymous
10th April 2019
Wednesday 6:57 pm
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>>18943
Bickering about it is obviously much better and isn't shitting up the board.
>> No. 18945 Anonymous
10th April 2019
Wednesday 7:26 pm
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>>18944
This is .gs, it's one of our proudest traditions.
>> No. 27626 Anonymous
10th September 2020
Thursday 9:27 pm
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TOO MUCH TEETEE.

https://twitter.com/jeavnne/status/1303648509846061056
>> No. 27627 Anonymous
10th September 2020
Thursday 9:29 pm
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>>27626
I think they just didn't let her in because she is too attractive rather than under-dressed.

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>> No. 15041 Anonymous
10th May 2018
Thursday 5:43 pm
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>Drag queens banned from performing at Free Pride Glasgow event over fears acts will offend trans people

[...]

>The organisation said in a statement that it hopes to create a safe space for all members of the LGBTQIA+ (lesbian, gay, bisexual, trans, queer, intersex, asexual) community, and that while the decision may "disappoint" some people "the needs of the most marginalised groups within our community come first."

[...]

>Free Pride Glasgow said: “It was felt that it [drag performance] would make some of those who were transgender or questioning their gender uncomfortable. It was felt by the group within the Trans/Non Binary Caucus that some drag performance, particularly cis drag, hinges on the social view of gender and making it into a joke, however transgender individuals do not feel as though their gender identity is a joke.”


Life rarely takes the piss out of itself like this. It almost sounds like the plot of a South Park episode.
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>> No. 27619 Anonymous
10th September 2020
Thursday 2:36 pm
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>>27612
The obvious suffix for gender-neutral Spanish (and I presume Portugeuse, which I am less familiar with) is -e. Why @? That's ridiculous.
>> No. 27621 Anonymous
10th September 2020
Thursday 5:06 pm
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>>27608
>maybe we just take people at face value (no pun intended) when they say they're an ethnic minority

Most people would. It's not a black vs. white issue as they try to frame it; it's more to do with the nebulous concept of "wokeness" and there being so much hubris surrounding it. This is a prime example of how much of a liberty you can take with it and how far you can bullshit until someone actually calls you out on it.
>> No. 27622 Anonymous
10th September 2020
Thursday 6:58 pm
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>>27619
In Portuguese you would normally write e.g. Latino(a) or medico(a) instead of Latino/Latina, medico/medica etc. As the @ symbol looks a bit like an 'a' inside of an 'o' it's becoming fairly common (in informal usage, amongst younger people) to use it instead of the o(a) notation: Thus medico(a) becomes simply medic@.
>> No. 27623 Anonymous
10th September 2020
Thursday 7:00 pm
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>>27622

And like I said I do think it's a bit silly but it's a damn sight better than writing fucking 'medicx'.
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10th September 2020
Thursday 7:21 pm
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>>27623
All of which are much less silly than German's "(m/w/d)" thing.

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>> No. 9430 Anonymous
26th January 2016
Tuesday 10:09 pm
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Huddersfield charity shop finally says goodbye to a shutter which lasted 26 years


http://www.examiner.co.uk/news/west-yorkshire-news/huddersfield-charity-shop-finally-says-10780879

That's it. That's literally it. A charity shop has replaced one of its roller shutters after having the same one for 26 years. It's all go in Huddersfield.

I challenge you lads to find a more pointless news story than this.
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>> No. 27546 Anonymous
7th September 2020
Monday 9:07 pm
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>>27544
[panto]Ohhh yes they did![/panto]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-54061948
>> No. 27547 Anonymous
7th September 2020
Monday 9:23 pm
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>>27546
Nobody who has heard of more than two artists did.
>> No. 27548 Anonymous
7th September 2020
Monday 10:07 pm
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>>27547

Next you'll be telling me that Bob Holness didn't play the saxophone solo on Baker Street.
>> No. 27549 Anonymous
7th September 2020
Monday 10:47 pm
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>>27548

No
>> No. 27550 Anonymous
7th September 2020
Monday 11:07 pm
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>>27549

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>> No. 23797 Anonymous
7th April 2020
Tuesday 1:24 am
23797 ITZ 48K - 8 Bit Edition
Bozza dead by next week, bet your house on it.
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>> No. 27141 Anonymous
25th August 2020
Tuesday 6:15 pm
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>>27139
>Unless that is, you're a nut farmer I guess.
So purp will be out of pocket this year then
>> No. 27142 Anonymous
25th August 2020
Tuesday 6:36 pm
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>>27141
Hahahahaha
>> No. 27143 Anonymous
25th August 2020
Tuesday 6:46 pm
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>>27141
That's good - but I think of it more as a sanctuary rather than a farm.
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25th August 2020
Tuesday 7:00 pm
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>>27141
POTY nomination.
>> No. 27145 Anonymous
25th August 2020
Tuesday 7:48 pm
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>>27139

In that case my local Indian can bring their pasanda down from eight fucking quid then can't they, robbing bastards.

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>> No. 26171 Anonymous
28th June 2020
Sunday 8:02 pm
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Millennials throw away 633 meals a year because they don't know how to reheat leftovers

Millennials throw away 633 meals a year because they don't know how to reheat leftovers. Those who took part in the poll said they would rather bin food than re-heat it, admitting good food is going to waste.

Researchers found the amount of food millenials confessed to throwing away adds up to more than 1,700lbs. The poll, conducted by cookware brand Pyrex, found millennials - aged 18 to 34 - waste more than three times as much as people aged above 34 who throw out the equivalent of just 186 plates of a food a year - 225 kilograms or 493 lbs. And the millennial food waste mountain is more than double the average food waste in the UK of 300 plates of food - just over 800 lbs per household.

Almost a quarter of millennials (23%) admitted they do not know how to deal with leftovers. By comparison just six per cent of people aged over 55 said they did not know what to do with leftover food.

A further 18 per cent of millennials said they eat out instead of eating the food they have at home leading to even more waste. Just four per cent of those aged over 55 said the same.

A fifth of millennials (21%) said they create yet more waste because they get bored eating what they already have at home compared to just seven per cent of those aged over 55. One of the other main reasons good food is thrown out is because 38 per cent of people fear they will get sick if they eat it after its 'best by' date.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8468257/Millennials-throw-away-633-meals-year-dont-know-reheat-leftovers-poll-finds.html

Millennials!
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>> No. 27127 Anonymous
24th August 2020
Monday 12:54 pm
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>>27126
The Telegraph is behind a paywall so I can't read it to see whether some 'expert' has actually said they're intimidating.
>> No. 27128 Anonymous
24th August 2020
Monday 1:00 pm
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>>27127
"I can't see what they actually said so I'm going to make up my own version to be shocked at".
>> No. 27129 Anonymous
24th August 2020
Monday 1:05 pm
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>>27128
What?
>> No. 27130 Anonymous
24th August 2020
Monday 1:17 pm
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>>27129
Don't worry, just pretend I said whatever you feel like responding to.
>> No. 27131 Anonymous
24th August 2020
Monday 1:22 pm
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>>27130
Okay? Whatever floats your boat.

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>> No. 26516 Anonymous
27th July 2020
Monday 9:48 am
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...It is important to state that it is not communities that commit crimes but individuals. Those convicted are squarely Henry Long, Albert Bowers and Jessie Cole, not thousands of innocent people who share their heritage. Tarring all Travellers with the brush of these men’s callousness is as unfair as tarring all Catholics for paedophile priests or all eskimos for daft militant wog attacks.

Yet to completely ignore the cultural context of this crime is wrong. Henry Long, the ringleader, was removed from school at the age of 12; he followed his father and grandfather into the thieving “trade”. Albert Bowers left school at 11 and before the trial had already picked up three youth convictions. These young men could not read or write. For years they had not known school or structure. Their education was in petty crime.

Such problems do not solely beset Travellers but they are far more prevalent among Traveller communities. If we want to be a country where all are treated the same, where all live by the same rules and where the state does its best to furnish each with a decent chance in life, we have to end the squeamishness that prevents open talk about Travellers. This squeamishness is down to two fears. First, the fear of retribution. After the verdict on PC Harper’s death it emerged that the judge, Mr Justice Edis, brought the first trial to a temporary halt over an alleged potential plot to intimidate jurors. Extra security measures were brought in. Jurors were referred to by number not name. One juror was dismissed for acting oddly in court, mouthing pleasantries at the defendants. Whether she was motivated by misplaced friendliness or fear of someone up in that public gallery we do not know, but most will not be shocked by revelations of intimidation.

The fear of the bullet, the knife, the burnt-out car; this helps the lawless elements of Traveller culture maintain a certain power, and gives the law-abiding majority of Travellers a terrible name.

The second fear is that of being labelled racist. Since the Equality Act 2010 recognised Gypsy, Roma and Travellers as ethnic minorities, race has been used to shield this culture from due scrutiny. Sensible questions about why those within these groups are more likely to be in prison, more likely to be illiterate or more likely to suffer domestic violence prompt cries of racism. In April a Channel 4 Dispatches programme titled The Truth About Traveller Crime was dubbed “dehumanising” by activists and investigated by Ofcom. Desperate not to offend, the authorities turn a culturally sensitive blind eye.

The fears hush most into silence, and the silence means the stand-off between Travellers and the rest of society continues uneasily. Many feel disquieted to see the mobile homes rolling on to a local beauty spot, a portent too often of littering, mess, anti-social behaviour. Meanwhile those in Traveller communities are hardly “living their best lives”. Travellers die about ten years earlier than the rest of us. They have higher rates of chronic illness. Their suicide rates are six times higher.

You might argue that they choose to live like this, but the babies born into that life don’t. Many are destined to repeat the same pattern: leave school in your early teens, drift into a life of odd jobs and petty crime, never move beyond the circles you were raised in. As long as the culturally sensitive force-field exists around Travellers, these children are abandoned to a fate that should not be tolerated in 21st-century Britain.

It is a scandal that some Gypsy and Traveller children are taken out of school at primary age; that some start work as young as ten; that about 65 per cent of Traveller children are persistently absent from school; that they have the lowest attainment of all ethnic groups throughout their school years and are far more likely to be excluded. Are we to be surprised when they choose crime?
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>> No. 27101 Anonymous
23rd August 2020
Sunday 10:33 pm
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>>27099
I'm not sure we need even more laws to make police a special protected class.
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23rd August 2020
Sunday 10:46 pm
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If you ask me he took one for the team to misdirect black lives matter public opinion into feel sympathy for his fellow filth.

I mean he obviously didn't but the Police PR teams must be as happy as, well, pigs in shit, with this turn of events.
>> No. 27103 Anonymous
23rd August 2020
Sunday 10:52 pm
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>>27099
I think there should be a law against calling proposed legislation SoAndSo's Law. I always feel for the families that propose this kind of thing, I get it they feel helpless and want to do something but it's a futile displacement activity.
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23rd August 2020
Sunday 11:45 pm
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>it's a futile displacement activity.

I don't know, the current government seem like the sort who will legislate based on knee-jerk reactions to recent events if they think it'll be good PR for them.

I can kind of see why she's doing it. There's been a lot of suggestions that the only reason the killers didn't go down for murder is because gypos influenced the jury.
>> No. 27116 Anonymous
24th August 2020
Monday 12:06 pm
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I wonder how such a law would have played out during the recent riots in America, or even the protests in Belarus?

It would be surely better to crackdown on the negative influences involved in the case rather than whitewash all after it.

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>> No. 18914 Anonymous
9th April 2019
Tuesday 5:38 pm
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Department store Debenhams has officially gone into administration after the shop rejected plans by Sports Direct's Mike Asheley to save it.

FTI Consulting has now been appointed as administrators for the chain, whose shops will continue trading for now. Debenhams is expected to close 50 of its 165 stores in the future, but no timescale has been announced yet.


https://www.mirror.co.uk/money/breaking-debenhams-enters-administration-50-14268573

How come it seems like almost every high street shop is either in administration or on the brink of it?
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>> No. 27038 Anonymous
16th August 2020
Sunday 4:48 pm
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>>27036
>White Lesbians

I'm trying to decide if this is a biker gang, a political activist group or an itinerant ethnic minority.

>>27037
I read newspapers. Have you tried doing a crossword on your phone? Beyond grim.
>> No. 27043 Anonymous
18th August 2020
Tuesday 1:06 pm
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>>27021
Not relevant to the conversation but hopefully Mike Ashley is sweating at the moment.
A huge Amazon warehouse is opening just down the road from his Shirebrook sweat shop and Amazon are offering a lot more pay.
Talking to some people who work at Ashleys warehouse nearly the entire staff is looking to revamp hopefully forcing him to offer better pay and shock horror an actual contract
>> No. 27044 Anonymous
18th August 2020
Tuesday 1:08 pm
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>>27043

Revamp = revamp

Dam autocorrect
>> No. 27045 Anonymous
18th August 2020
Tuesday 2:09 pm
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>>27044

You okay mate?
>> No. 27046 Anonymous
18th August 2020
Tuesday 2:16 pm
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>>27043
Amazon is a great company to work for, as long as you're not in one of the warehouses. Your friends might get paid more, but they're about to learn the meaning of "work hard".

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>> No. 27007 Anonymous
13th August 2020
Thursday 12:45 pm
27007 Belarus
In summary:

Current "president" of Belarus has been in since 1994, using fairly brutal oppression to keep his grip on power.

In the most recent election, the results seem obviously falsified. Massive protests in the streets, pretty much all foreign media has been expelled, sites censored, police dropping grenades on protestors.

What do we think, lads? One of the last remaining Soviets finally going to bite it?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-53748748
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>> No. 27026 Anonymous
16th August 2020
Sunday 1:03 am
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The theory is that he would want to put down any kind of "will of the people" revolution on his own doorstep, because it would encourage similar in his own country. I don't think he's in the least bit worried tbh.

Putin will turn up if the revolution involved Dutch/Polish tanks rolling in; while its very much a "will of the people" - and it really seems to be - I don't think he can do anything. What's really striking is that there have been no counter protests (by the mythical 80% who voted for Lukashenko), and when you have literally the workers of the Minsk Tractor Works going on strike, change is coming.
>> No. 27027 Anonymous
16th August 2020
Sunday 1:31 am
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>historically Belarus has resisted any kind of Russian influence

That's a very short history you seem to be working with there. Lukashenko went as far as to discourage even the Belorussian language and the school curriculum teaches Soviet history - even today the Belarusian flag is repressed as far-right symbolism while the official symbols are Soviet imports. To add to this Russian subsidies petrochemicals can still be considered THE economy as Belarus gets cheap oil, refines it and sells it on.

This only started to change after Crimea where it became obvious that having your citizens deeply identify with Russia is a bad idea. Then came the cuts to Russian subsidies which is what really spurred on the recent rapprochement with the West. At least until last week Belarus was serving a purpose for everyone as a middleman under heavy Russian influence but which could broker peace in Ukraine.

But yeah, money's on Russia won't intervene because whatever comes after will still be heavily pro-Russia out to sheer necessity. Putin doesn't need to bail out Lukashenko and at any rate it's unaffordable at the moment. It's a very different situation to what happened in the Ukraine and I'm sure even the protesters are conscious that the new boss will be same as the old boss.
>> No. 27040 Anonymous
16th August 2020
Sunday 10:57 pm
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>>27025

>that Putin is a sort of Scooby Doo Soviet dictator in disguise

No scooby doo stuff involved. If you look at how Putin has altered Russia's constitution and legal frameworks just to benefit himself and enable him to stay in power almost indefinitely, then he's at least not somebody we would lightly call a good democrat.

That said, I think there is plenty of exaggeration going around at the moment. Putin didn't take Crimea for the sake of stealing land from a foreign country, but because it is the headquarters of the Russian Black Sea fleet. The pro-Western, pro-American revolution in Ukraine was a serious threat to Russia's unhindered access to its own naval bases in the area.

Russian politics tends to be crude. If there had been an anti-Western revolution in some Central or South American country where the U.S. has major military bases, then the Americans probably would have used all their clandestine political might to sabotage the revolutionaries. Putin did a quite probably massively rigged referendum to annex the whole Crimea peninsula. Same effect, different means.

But to think that Putin would send troops to Belarus is just nonsense. For what? To what end? This isn't the Soviet Union anymore that sent tanks into Prague in 1968. Putin may be an autocrat, but I am sure he's not stupid enough to come to the aid of a fellow autocrat who could be facing expulsion if there's really going to be a revolution.

At the end of it though, I think a lot of the protest against Lukashenko is secretly instigated by the West. The Americans are probably doing a similar job as they did in Ukraine in 2012-2013 and are heavily supporting the protesters and equipping them both with money and manpower. Except you won't read that in Western newspapers.
>> No. 27041 Anonymous
17th August 2020
Monday 12:41 am
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>>27040

Nobody's calling him a democratic leader, he's an old fashioned oligarch baron plain and simple. Only the charade feudalism of neo-liberalism permits such figures to pretend to be democratically elected.

As such his aims and motivations are largely the same as any other country would be in the same situation. None of them involve getting your hands dirty to prop up a failing dictator, when at the end of the day you can just sub in one of your guys anyway.

>The Americans are probably doing a similar job as they did in Ukraine in 2012-2013 and are heavily supporting the protesters and equipping them both with money and manpower. Except you won't read that in Western newspapers.

No surprises there. They just always drop the ball immediately after the money shot.
>> No. 27042 Anonymous
17th August 2020
Monday 6:46 pm
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The clips of him (Lukashenko) speaking today are quite incredible. Defiant doesn't even come close to it.

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>> No. 26810 Anonymous
5th August 2020
Wednesday 1:54 am
26810 huge explosion in Beirut
Yeah well a load of bags of Ammonium Nitrate stored like this will probably do that.
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>> No. 27010 Anonymous
13th August 2020
Thursday 4:43 pm
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What annoys me is the same confidence of the people who insist nothing unusual is going on. I get that we're mostly all losers around here and that hearing 'open your mind' is catalyst to numbing it, but too many ideas are dismissed as nonsense for what appears to be no genuine reason.
[/spoiler]Yes, i posted the one in /x/[/spoiler]
>> No. 27011 Anonymous
13th August 2020
Thursday 4:44 pm
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>>27010
>/x/
er, /boo/. Showing my roots it seems.
>> No. 27012 Anonymous
13th August 2020
Thursday 5:15 pm
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>>27011
Pretty much the same thing if you see the state of most of the women posted on there.
>> No. 27013 Anonymous
13th August 2020
Thursday 5:22 pm
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>>27010
>but too many ideas are dismissed as nonsense for what appears to be no genuine reason

Can you name one of them? I am sure your "but it could be true!" is my "No because that would require a 100,000 people to keep a secret, most of which wouldn't want to".
>> No. 27014 Anonymous
13th August 2020
Thursday 5:28 pm
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>>27010
>open your mind

Most conspiracy theories (including the one you suggested) are death defyingly stupid - you don't have to be "open minded" to believe or consider them, you mostly need to be a bit dim. That's a genuine reason too.

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