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>> No. 12708 Anonymous
22nd May 2017
Monday 11:46 pm
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This doesn't look good.
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>> No. 12709 Anonymous
23rd May 2017
Tuesday 12:01 am
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>>12708
While not as bad as some I've seen, the "is everyone okay ps can has pix plz" is still fucking cringeworthy, and the people who do it should have some serious words with themselves.

https://twitter.com/JoeAaronGregory/status/866784565821677569
>> No. 12710 Anonymous
23rd May 2017
Tuesday 12:01 am
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Would've been full of littleuns with it being an Ariana Grande concert
>> No. 12711 Anonymous
23rd May 2017
Tuesday 12:04 am
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>>12710
Unlikely. They were all paedos in their late 20s.
>> No. 12712 Anonymous
23rd May 2017
Tuesday 12:17 am
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Some drama kicking off on social media about how people are being censored because the sites keep deleting their photos of carnage at the Manchester Arena taken from an army training exercise a couple of years ago involving dummies and volunteers.

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>> No. 12610 Anonymous
12th May 2017
Friday 6:34 pm
12610 Shittypants
The NHS appears to have been the victim of a ransomware attack, which has hit many organisations worldwide.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-39899646
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-39901382

Apart from the immediate effects, I suppose that this is also going to jumped on by May to push certain mandates in her election campaign.
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>> No. 12700 Anonymous
21st May 2017
Sunday 9:22 pm
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>>12699
The curve will be a little crazy, because in general the quality has improved over time. In general, the older the disc, the poorer the quality probably was, which means the sooner it will have failed. I have discs from around 10 years ago that have fared noticeably better than those from around 15 years ago did when they were the same age.

There are apparently "archival grade" discs around, which claim a life on the order of centuries, though given the technology hasn't been around that long it's difficult to tell whether or not they've lived up to it.
>> No. 12703 Anonymous
21st May 2017
Sunday 10:18 pm
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>>12700

The problem is that any electronic data storage technology is eventually bound to fail. Books can be well over 1200 years old and still in remarkable condition, because a book is just about the most low-tech data carrying device you can think of. Even modern thumb or SSD drives, which have the benefit of no mechanical parts like conventional hard disks, contain a greater number of microelectronic parts such as capacitors and the like. All these have a technically possible lifespan, and they will begin to fail at the end of that, if not much sooner. It's too early to tell yet how USB thumb drives and SSDs will fare long-term (USB drives have really only been around for just over 15 years), but again, they are bound to run into technical lifespan limitations at some point.

On an unrelated side note, this is also one aspect of why some people believe that interstellar travel will never happen by means of conventional propulsion. Because even if we successfully assemble and launch a generation spaceship, there are simply no manufacturing processes known today that can guarantee a lifespan of daily-use electronics on the scale of hundreds of thousands of years that it would probably take just to get to the nearest couple of other stars in the Milky Way. You would have to have production facilities on board to continuously produce new spare parts. And the machines that would produce them would also deteriorate over time and need new parts themselves. And so on.
>> No. 12704 Anonymous
21st May 2017
Sunday 11:17 pm
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>>12703
Long-term storage in general is something we still haven't cracked after 100,000 years of existence. The best-preserved artefacts from ancient history are not those that have been consciously preserved but those that got buried.

The other great parallel in technarchaeology is that, just as we have ancient writing that we are no longer able to decode, we also have ancient formats that we are no longer able to read. The BBC's Domesday Project was issued on a proprietary laserdisc format which nobody else took up (it was almost a decade before LD-ROM emerged). There are thought to be only around a dozen of the players left in serviceable condition.
>> No. 12705 Anonymous
21st May 2017
Sunday 11:25 pm
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>>12703
>Books can be well over 1200 years old and still in remarkable condition, because a book is just about the most low-tech data carrying device you can think of

YOU SURE ABOUT THAT M8?

>Tell Ea-nasir: Nanni sends the following message:

>When you came, you said to me as follows : “I will give Gimil-Sin (when he comes) fine quality copper ingots.” You left then but you did not do what you promised me. You put ingots which were not good before my messenger (Sit-Sin) and said: “If you want to take them, take them; if you do not want to take them, go away!”

>What do you take me for, that you treat somebody like me with such contempt? I have sent as messengers gentlemen like ourselves to collect the bag with my money (deposited with you) but you have treated me with contempt by sending them back to me empty-handed several times, and that through enemy territory. Is there anyone among the merchants who trade with Telmun who has treated me in this way? You alone treat my messenger with contempt! On account of that one (trifling) mina of silver which I owe(?) you, you feel free to speak in such a way, while I have given to the palace on your behalf 1,080 pounds of copper, and umi-abum has likewise given 1,080 pounds of copper, apart from what we both have had written on a sealed tablet to be kept in the temple of Samas.

>How have you treated me for that copper? You have withheld my money bag from me in enemy territory; it is now up to you to restore (my money) to me in full.

>Take cognizance that (from now on) I will not accept here any copper from you that is not of fine quality. I shall (from now on) select and take the ingots individually in my own yard, and I shall exercise against you my right of rejection because you have treated me with contempt.
>> No. 12707 Anonymous
21st May 2017
Sunday 11:37 pm
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>>12705
Not a book.

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>> No. 12648 Anonymous
19th May 2017
Friday 7:13 pm
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http://news.met.police.uk/news/statement-on-julian-assange-242877

>Whilst Mr Assange was wanted on a European Arrest Warrant (EAW) for an extremely serious offence, the MPS response reflected the serious nature of that crime. Now that the situation has changed and the Swedish authorities have discontinued their investigation into that matter, Mr Assange remains wanted for a much less serious offence. The MPS will provide a level of resourcing which is proportionate to that offence.

>The MPS will not comment further on the operational plan.

>The priority for the MPS must continue to be arresting those who are currently wanted in the Capital in connection with serious violent or sexual offences for the protection of Londoners.
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>> No. 12687 Anonymous
21st May 2017
Sunday 2:20 pm
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>>12685
>All but one of his alleged victims recanted
No, the offences timed out. That's not the same thing at all.

>if the British authorities had gotten a hold of him he would have been put on a plane to the US, not Sweden.
Nonsense. The EAW was pretty much the only thing guaranteeing that wouldn't happen. The UK was bound by international law to turn him over to Sweden. They couldn't let him walk, and they couldn't send him anywhere else. Sweden unequivocably had first dibs. Anything else would have caused an international incident.

>If he can make it back to Sweden
... he will be arrested and questioned for the one allegation that remains. They've dropped it for now, but they're entirely entitled to pick it up again at any time until that too times out in 2020.
>> No. 12689 Anonymous
21st May 2017
Sunday 2:24 pm
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>>12687
But all but one did recant, didn't they? Simply because the offense timed out doesn't have much (read: any) bearing on that.
>> No. 12691 Anonymous
21st May 2017
Sunday 2:32 pm
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>>12689
>But all but one did recant, didn't they?
What is it with people just repeating themselves lately?
>> No. 12693 Anonymous
21st May 2017
Sunday 2:42 pm
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>>12691
Different person. This is the nature of an anonymous imageboard, etc., etc.

Turns out then, that at least two people have noticed your "mistake".
>> No. 12695 Anonymous
21st May 2017
Sunday 2:57 pm
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>>12693
>Turns out then, that at least two people have noticed your "mistake".
I think you mean "at least two people have made the same mistake".

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>> No. 12547 Anonymous
7th May 2017
Sunday 1:40 pm
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http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/garda-launch-blasphemy-probe-into-stephen-fry-comments-on-the-meaning-of-life-35684262.html

>Under the Defamation Act 2009 a person who publishes or utters blasphemous material "shall be guilty of an offence". They are be liable upon conviction on indictment to a fine not exceeding €25,000.

>The specific complaint relates to an interview conducted on 'The Meaning of Life' with Mr Fry. During the show the comedian and writer was questioned about what he might say to God at the pearly gates.

>Mr Fry replied: "How dare you create a world in which there is such misery? It’s not our fault? It’s not right. It’s utterly, utterly evil. Why should I respect a capricious, mean-minded, stupid god who creates a world which is so full of injustice and pain?"

>He went on to say that if he was met by the Greek gods he would accept them quicker because, "they didn’t present themselves as being all seeing, all wise, all beneficent."

>He added: "Because the god who created this universe, if it was created by god, is quite clearly a maniac, an utter maniac, totally selfish.

>"We have to spend our lives on our knees thanking him. What kind of god would do that?"
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>> No. 12607 Anonymous
10th May 2017
Wednesday 3:21 pm
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Pretty tiresome to see well worn attacks on theism posed with such obvious and unmerited self-satisfaction. Congrats, you've made it past the part of your childhood when you didn't question anything. If you're interested in an actual response to the questions you're posing, there exists a wealth of apologetics freely available for your perusal which attempt to address them. If not, don't bother, you're not impressing anybody.
>> No. 12608 Anonymous
10th May 2017
Wednesday 3:42 pm
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>>12606

I should have said that my degree isn't in European law. As part of my business degree, at some point I developed a tentative interest in European law, so I attended a lecture or two on it towards the end of uni.

The professor's point was much more to shed light on how a country started over, after a period of history as disruptive to its own self as the Third Reich.

We also talked about the new post-Apartheid South African constitution, btw. Again very interestingly, the post-war German constitution served as a blueprint for a number of aspects of the new South African constitution. You even had law professors from German universities helping in the process of writing it. Our professor said he was friends with a law professor from Hamburg (?), who was part of a delegation of seasoned constitutional law experts visiting South Africa numerous times in the early to mid 1990s.
>> No. 12645 Anonymous
14th May 2017
Sunday 2:32 pm
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I'm coming to like the idea that we've just replaced religion with a more postmodern sort of civic-religion. Where instead of not believing in the lies you're generally told by society, we come over more to being smugly sceptical of things even as we proceed with the rituals anyway.

I'm not actually clever enough to reiterate it properly, but I still like it as a basic idea, and I don't think I'd be too wide of the mark to say it's essentially down to Christianity outliving it's usefulness to modern capitalism and getting the bullet. The randian superman shall inherit the earth -- BY WINNING THIS WEEK'S EPISODE OF THE GREAT BRITISH BAKE OFF!
>> No. 12646 Anonymous
17th May 2017
Wednesday 12:19 am
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Something not mentioned in this thread that I've seen elsewhere is that blasphemy is in the Irish constitution. There's a sort of meme going around which says that the 2009 law was introduced deliberately to be unenforceable, because to remove blasphemy from the constitution would take a referendum.

This is true enough, but it makes the law sound counter-intuitively brilliant, when it's not. The law needs to go, and the referendum needs to happen.

First, it doesn't matter if the law is enforceable or not if people are ignorant of its purpose and choose to self-censor. This is exactly what happened with the Scientology documentaries Going Clear and My Scientology Movie. Neither could find a distributor in Ireland because of fear of prosecution[1].

Second, under the government's 'Programme for Partnership', they pledge towards the end, section 8B on Constitutional Reform,

"We propose that a number of referenda be held. These include referenda on:
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* The question of amending Article 40.6.1(i) of the Constitution to remove the offence
of blasphemy" [2]

This should be morally binding, more enforceable than a manifesto pledge. Obviously politicians lie and don't always fulfil every promise, but the current govt aren't supposed to be avoiding a referendum, as some people think.

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>> No. 12647 Anonymous
17th May 2017
Wednesday 12:51 am
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>>12646
These sorts of laws are tools. You'll sometimes hear them euphemistically referred to as "ways and means". On the one hand, they're there to provide a way of dealing with someone you might not otherwise be able to deal with. For example, if someone's getting a bit rough and a police officer happens to hear them swear, expect that person to be booked for s.5 Public Order Act, left in the cells to cool down and released without charge in the morning. Of course, since the law is there, the temptation exists to use it, as routinely happens in the case of s.5 across the country, where eventually either the CPS drops the charges before trial, or the court adds yet another case to the long list of decisions stating that, due to the nature of the job, front line officers have no business being alarmed or distressed by a bit of language.

Some of our older users may remember the time Iceland was briefly declared a terrorist state in order to freeze assets for a completely unrelated reason. It's the same problem that afflicts things like the Investigatory Powers Act, and should really have been at the heart of the Brexit legislation - once the powers exist, there's no effective check on how they can be used.

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>> No. 9430 Anonymous
26th January 2016
Tuesday 10:09 pm
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Huddersfield charity shop finally says goodbye to a shutter which lasted 26 years


http://www.examiner.co.uk/news/west-yorkshire-news/huddersfield-charity-shop-finally-says-10780879

That's it. That's literally it. A charity shop has replaced one of its roller shutters after having the same one for 26 years. It's all go in Huddersfield.

I challenge you lads to find a more pointless news story than this.
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>> No. 12447 Anonymous
2nd April 2017
Sunday 7:26 pm
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Is Aldi or Lidl quicker at scanning shopping? We put it to the test

In Aldi, it took a mere 50 seconds to scan the items and 1 minute 38 seconds for the full transaction. That also allowed for a credit card machine issue, which required Henry to enter his card into the machine for a second time.

As for Lidl, it would have taken roughly only 35 seconds to scan the items, but the full transaction took five minutes and 19 seconds due to a barcode missing from one of the items.


http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/is-aldi-or-lidl-quicker-at-scanning-shopping-we-put-it-to-the-test/story-30242990-detail/story.html
>> No. 12449 Anonymous
2nd April 2017
Sunday 7:48 pm
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>>12447
Local news asking the important questions as usual.
>> No. 12486 Anonymous
6th April 2017
Thursday 2:55 pm
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>A Devon football fan scored a massive own goal after he ate a nugget of horse poo in an Exeter street for a £40 bet after being egged on by his pals – leaving his girlfriend refusing to kiss him for a month after.

>Footage shows Exeter City fan Charlie Bamber chomp on the manure while children look on in horror outside a pub in the city. The 23-year-old can be seen retching violently after swallowing a lump of dirt - and later uses an entire tube of toothpaste in an attempt to clean out his mouth.

http://www.devonlive.com/watch-devon-football-fan-eating-horse-poo-for-a-bet-in-exeter-street/story-30253531-detail/story.html
>> No. 12585 Anonymous
9th May 2017
Tuesday 12:21 pm
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>>12486

I went to a barn party at a farm estate once. It was a big party with probably close to 2,000 people, music and loads of booze. Anyway, there was a manure pit on the estate, which had been carefully cordoned off with a construction fence and a tarp cover over the fence. But somehow, some shitfaced git managed to climb over the fence late at night, and then plunged into the manure pit. They found him at 4 am, fast asleep on the edge of the manure pit, covered in shit.

Also reminds me of that time I was at a friend's little garden party; we were sat in his parents' summerhouse, and at some point I excused myself to go around the corner to have a wee. It was pitch dark outside, and I mistook a goldfish pond for a flower bed, and was going to walk straight across it to wee against a tree. Next thing I knew, I was standing in water up to my waist. Having suffered abounding laughter from my mates, I then took off my wet jeans and decided to pedal home on my bicycle half a mile to get some dry clothes. All the while thinking that I probably looked like a nonce, wearing nothing but a T-shirt and my white undies on a bicycle late at night, and my biggest fear was that I would be stopped by police. Luckily, nothing happened.
>> No. 12609 Anonymous
10th May 2017
Wednesday 5:42 pm
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>>12585

To be fair lad, that happened to me last week. Although in my case I stepped off a dodgy clapboard bridge. Into a swamp. Thank fuck it had been raining.

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>> No. 12581 Anonymous
9th May 2017
Tuesday 11:23 am
12581 Kelvin Mackenzie to leave The Sun after Ross Barkley column
Sun sees sense shocker.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-39854061

Of course, given how it came about, I get the feeling they still won't be buying it in Liverpool.
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>> No. 12583 Anonymous
9th May 2017
Tuesday 11:27 am
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>>12581
It's just so odd to see a national paper that has it out for a city. Really weird.
>> No. 12584 Anonymous
9th May 2017
Tuesday 12:02 pm
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>>12583
It doesn't really help that the man's an insufferable cunt.

There are suggestions that this is a token move to give Ofcom the impression that News Corp properties take things like this seriously, just as they have at Fox News.

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>> No. 12450 Anonymous
2nd April 2017
Sunday 10:07 pm
12450 Which one of you bigots done this||?
>Croydon 'hate crime'

>The boy was with two friends late on Friday night at a bus stop in Croydon when he was approached by a group of about eight people, who demanded to know where he was from. After saying he was seeking asylum, the gang chased and attacked him.

>The teenager, a Kurdish Iranian aged 17, was left unconscious after receiving repeated blows to the head. On Sunday he was said to be in a serious but stable condition in hospital. The other two youths suffered minor injuries.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/apr/01/asylum-seeker-fights-for-life-after-hate-attack-in-london

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-39470487
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>> No. 12483 Anonymous
5th April 2017
Wednesday 2:02 pm
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>>12481
I heard similar about that Polish fella who was killed last year by a gang of kids in another Southern shithole. They were up to no good and were going to gang up and attack someone regardless.
>> No. 12542 Anonymous
7th May 2017
Sunday 1:22 am
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>>12450
good
>> No. 12543 Anonymous
7th May 2017
Sunday 1:30 am
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>>12542

A post like this, on a month old thread? You seem like quite the refugee yourself, pal.
>> No. 12544 Anonymous
7th May 2017
Sunday 1:44 am
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>>12543

They're not refugees, they're economic migrants.
>> No. 12545 Anonymous
7th May 2017
Sunday 4:29 am
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>>12544

Then what's your cunting excuse, twat?

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>> No. 12524 Anonymous
17th April 2017
Monday 1:48 pm
12524 Tukey Votes to Establish Presidial System
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-39618614

>What's in the new constitution?

> The president will have a five-year tenure, for a maximum of two terms
> The president will be able to directly appoint top public officials, including ministers and one or several vice-presidents
> The job of prime minister will be scrapped
> The president will have power to intervene in the judiciary, which Mr Erdogan has accused of being influenced by Fethullah Gulen, the Pennsylvania-based preacher he blames for the failed coup in July
> The president will decide whether or not impose a state of emergency
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>> No. 12537 Anonymous
18th April 2017
Tuesday 2:38 pm
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>>12536
It is surely beyond doubt that they are. There are four Commissions, and the fact that they are supposedly independent doesn't matter. Like many other "independent" bodies, their terms of reference are set by the government, and just like the NHS Pay Review Body, the government have supplied terms favourable to themselves.
>> No. 12538 Anonymous
18th April 2017
Tuesday 2:46 pm
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>>12532
But would you rather be beyond Breitbart?
>> No. 12539 Anonymous
18th April 2017
Tuesday 2:47 pm
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>>12537

That, and I am not sure that these commissions will ever be truly "independent". It starts with the question of who gets to pick the members of such a commission. And people who will then end up serving as part of a political commission like that, if they are seasoned political experts, will themselves have had some sort of personal political history, and they will have, or have had some manner of ties to a political party. And thus, they will never be able to make truly independent decisions. It's all smoke and mirrors.
>> No. 12540 Anonymous
18th April 2017
Tuesday 3:12 pm
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>>12539
This isn't the US. Violations of electoral law and funding rules are rarely punished there because the FEC has three reds and three blues and they end up deadlocked every time.

We're great respecters of the rule of law in this country. Even party loyalists can be persuaded to do the right thing. The best way of locking that down over here is to lay down terms of reference that prevent it. It didn't matter how much the PRB members love the NHS, their terms of reference effectively amount to "justify 1%". It doesn't matter if the members of the Boundary Commissions can see that basing their constituencies on the rolls rather than the census is unfair, their terms of reference are to use the rolls and they'll do as they're told or risk exceeding their remit (and never working in such a position again).
>> No. 12541 Anonymous
18th April 2017
Tuesday 6:21 pm
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>>12538

I'd rather pretend neither existed frankly. I've no time for echo chambers whether left or right, they're hugboxes for people too emotionally fragile to read a paragraph of anything they disagree with.

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>> No. 12487 Anonymous
7th April 2017
Friday 10:36 am
12487 US Bombs Assad
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/06/trump-syria-missiles-assad-chemical-weapons

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2017/apr/07/us-syria-response-donald-trump-assad-pentagon-live

>The US military has launched a cruise missile attack on a Syrian airfield in response to the Assad regime’s use of chemical weapons this week, marking the first time the US has become a direct combatant against the Syrian regime.

>Though Trump lacked congressional and international authorisation for the strike, prominent US politicians immediately gave him political cover.

>For years, defense analysts have warned the US against attacking Assad without a plan for what it seeks to achieve or what a post-Assad Syria might look like.

And the Russian's are none too happy.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/us-russia-air-strikes-syria-suspend-agreement-memorandum-direct-conflict-military-donald-trump-putin-a7671631.html

>Under the memorandum, signed after Russia launched an air campaign in Syria in September 2015, Russia and the US had exchanged information about their flights to avoid incidents in the crowded skies over Syria — where Russia has several dozen warplanes and batteries of air-defense missiles.
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>> No. 12519 Anonymous
12th April 2017
Wednesday 4:48 pm
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>>12518
>saying another world leader is literally worse than Hitler.
As opposed to figuratively worse than Hitler?
>> No. 12520 Anonymous
12th April 2017
Wednesday 5:03 pm
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>>12519
First day on the Internet, grandad?
>> No. 12521 Anonymous
12th April 2017
Wednesday 5:06 pm
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>>12520
You don't see why such a vague value judgement statement is weirder to qualify with literally/figuratively, as opposed to saying "literally is Hitler" or something along those lines?
>> No. 12522 Anonymous
12th April 2017
Wednesday 5:22 pm
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>>12521
It's a shit internet meme. It's not supposed to make sense.
>> No. 12523 Anonymous
12th April 2017
Wednesday 7:07 pm
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I'm getting really fed up of Syria to be honest.

It's getting like that shit radio station your boring normal colleagues put on at work. The one where you've already heard Human by Rag'n'Bone Man once before morning coffee, and then twice more by your afternoon fag break.

It's just all starting to sound the same.

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>> No. 12369 Anonymous
7th March 2017
Tuesday 1:32 pm
12369 VAULT 7 RELEASED
This is it lads, Teacon 1. I repeat, Teacon 1.

https://wikileaks.org/ciav7p1/
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>> No. 12444 Anonymous
12th March 2017
Sunday 3:24 am
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>>12443

WHILE YOU SLEEP
STANIKEK RISES

(A good day to you Sir!)
>> No. 12445 Anonymous
12th March 2017
Sunday 3:52 am
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>>12444

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUxyg_DFMfM?start=7&end=9
>> No. 12446 Anonymous
22nd March 2017
Wednesday 11:38 am
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Nine times.
>> No. 12507 Anonymous
8th April 2017
Saturday 9:47 pm
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Couple of big drops via The Shadow Brokers & Wikileaks:

>Today's revelation exposes hacking attacks on EU states, as well as Latin America, Russia, China, Japan and South East Asia. Among the contents one also finds the hacking configuration for China Mobile, the world's largest mobile telecom company by number of subscribers.

https://medium.com/@shadowbrokerss/dont-forget-your-base-867d304a94b1

>WikiLeaks just dropped the CIA’s secret how-to for infecting Windows

https://arstechnica.co.uk/tech-policy/2017/04/wikileaks-just-dropped-the-cias-secret-how-to-for-infecting-windows/
>> No. 12508 Anonymous
8th April 2017
Saturday 10:16 pm
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Naturally the timing is entirely coincidental. Someone just happened to finish prepping this batch for release this week.

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>> No. 11981 Anonymous
23rd January 2017
Monday 12:37 pm
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/22/donald-trump-kellyanne-conway-inauguration-alternative-facts

>Trump’s press secretary, Sean Spicer, used his first White House briefing to shout at journalists about what he incorrectly termed “deliberately false reporting” on Trump’s inauguration, declaring: “We’re going to hold the press accountable.”

>“This was the largest audience ever to witness an inauguration, period,” said Spicer, in one of several statements contradicted by photographs and transit data. “These attempts to lessen the enthusiasm of the inauguration are shameful and wrong.”

>Kellyanne Conway, a senior White House aide, told NBC’s Meet the Press on Sunday Spicer had merely been offering “alternative facts”, a phrase that was received with widespread astonishment.


Alternative facts, eh?

The buses don't run where those people live.
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>> No. 12292 Anonymous
12th February 2017
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12th February 2017
Sunday 4:28 pm
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Not him, but Obama's FP record is hardly impressive. His greatest achievement is probably deciding not to get too involved in Syria.
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12th February 2017
Sunday 4:43 pm
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Cuba? Iran? Paris accord? IS in full retreat?
>> No. 12484 Anonymous
5th April 2017
Wednesday 2:09 pm
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Leaving the door open for Russia and letting Assad free to use chemical weapons against civilians? Not intervening in Syria is possibly his biggest failure. Red line my arse.
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5th April 2017
Wednesday 2:21 pm
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> letting Assad free to use chemical weapons against civilians

Fake news. Sad!

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>> No. 12295 Anonymous
17th February 2017
Friday 3:12 pm
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As a part of my general interest in current affairs, I dig around a lot on the subject of human rights and violence, including torture and so on.

Obviously some things are more difficult to read than others, but today I just didn't feel like I had the emotional capacity to go through a particular report.

I know it sounds fluffy as I'm not there to experience it myself, but truth be told I've been getting 'burn-out' more often lately.

Do any of you lads find you have to set some sensible limits on the media you expose yourself to? Any practical advice on how to avoid this sort of burn-out when reading about serious or distressing topics?
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>> No. 12362 Anonymous
2nd March 2017
Thursday 1:14 am
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>And then when subsidies dry up, quite often it results in a near complete withdrawal of private capital. Just take the case of the Nokia plant in Hungary. It was heavily subsidised by the Hungarian government with tax incentives and whatnot, but as soon as those began to run out, Nokia upped sticks and left.
See, that just seems a further argument in favour of regulating capital flows.
>Most of them are now owned and operated by multinational industrial and investment conglomerates who, if at all, would not go quietly.
That's one of the problems. I mean, I tend to be hopeless about the future. We've handed too much power away to those who'd do us ill.

I believe New Zealand was the most socialist of western countries under Muldoon. The comparison of government spending and nationalisation seems an odd one though, since Sweden had functioning social democracy (where private ownership was sufficiently docile, rendering nationalisation unnecessary.) and Growth was also higher during the Breton-Woods period in nearly all countries, which leaves me with some impression that the level of regulation is something of a sidenote. (Especially when you factor that to find one who hasn't bowed to neoliberalism in one form or another, you're looking essentially at one country - North Korea.)

>And just how are you going to make labour scarcer?
Primarily with the aim of full employment being put high up on the policy proposal list. That might also include restrictions on immigration.
>Disregarding for a moment that in our globalised world
Ah, see, the primary purpose of the suggestion is to Disregard our globalised world and bring the whole thing under much stronger democratic and domestic control. Not total isolationism, just a much more managed system. Then you force domestic investment and (as a first world country, anyway) can more or less ignore foreign investment.

Fundamentally changing the nature of the global economy would be the aim. You'd almost certainly need to agree such a thing multilaterally. The fact it's impossible is accepted a-priori and used as a reason for me to become increasingly misanthropic and wish for an increasingly unstable world. I increasingly feel that there's nothing to lose.
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2nd March 2017
Thursday 11:27 am
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>See, that just seems a further argument in favour of regulating capital flows.

Maybe to you. But in reality, you are simply not going to succeed at that. And just what was the Hungarian government supposed to do when Nokia withdrew after the subsidies ran out? Seize Nokia's assets? And would any foreign investor ever have invested in Hungaria again after that?

>I mean, I tend to be hopeless about the future. We've handed too much power away to those who'd do us ill.

Governments and countries around the globe are up to their necks in debt, slow growth and sluggish tax revenue. The last thing they will do at this point is renationalise industries that are worth trillions in assets alone, and buy out their private owners.

>The comparison of government spending and nationalisation seems an odd one though

Not at all. They're two sides of the same coin, and that is the degree of a government's involvement in its country's economic affairs. Whether the government then spends money through its fully owned industries or does so directly is in the end not really relevant.

>Disregard our globalised world and bring the whole thing under much stronger democratic and domestic control
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>> No. 12364 Anonymous
2nd March 2017
Thursday 2:32 pm
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>But in reality, you are simply not going to succeed at that.
Well yeah, as I say: That's accepted in advance. (Indeed if you want my entire political attitude nowadays in a sentence, it's "Things can only get worse, but let's look at how they could be better.")
>And just what was the Hungarian government supposed to do when Nokia withdrew after the subsidies ran out?
Taking over assets would be one option. Setting different terms for market access in advance would be another. Finally, the importance of foreign investment is downplayed, because domestic investors can always be nudged towards domestic investment. (Admittedly, I suspect Hungary isn't in quite so powerful a position in that regard.)
>Governments and countries around the globe are up to their necks in debt, slow growth and sluggish tax revenue
Hence the preference for fiscal repression. Debt plunged from WW2 until the early 70s because of the way we strung up the financial sector.
>and that is the degree of a government's involvement in its country's economic affairs
This seems the kind of thinking that would make the NHS fungible with single-payer healthcare + privately owned hospitals.
>Also, don't forget that globalisation, for all its negative effects on mature post-industrial societies such as ours, has brought prosperity to many people in developing countries.
I feel many of those benefits could still be delivered. Remember that the preference isn't for zero trade, but for balanced trade. Strictly speaking we could leave phone manufacturing to China, so long as we build something else here to maintain balance within a reasonable period. (i.e. say 5 years, and in that 5 years even if we've a huge trade deficit with China, maybe we've got a huge surplus with the US, so we're balanced, and maybe China's also running an equivalent with Russia)
>people will just laugh at those silly Brits thinking they have weight to throw around by wanting to make labour scarcer in their country
I did note that the whole thing has to be set up multilaterally. I mean, step 1 is the capital-control system, and if we can't all agree to that a-la Breton Woods then we're done at the first hurdle. (We can't.)
>strikes and misery of the 1970s?
Always drawn to an excuse to post this: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/3337143/Remember-1976-Britains-best-ever-year.html
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>> No. 12367 Anonymous
2nd March 2017
Thursday 6:14 pm
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One thing I will give you is that the global financial sector has got completely out of control. It is just a bloated cancer growth of markets and economies which contributes nearly nothing to real sector growth, and whose volatility and valuation bubbles in 2007/08 plunged us into the greatest real sector crisis since the 1930s. And a sizeable chunk of industrial output and profit is now siphoned off solely as interest for the mind-bogglingly vast financial assets that circle the globe always looking for the highest return on investment.

One reason why labour market conditions are so unfavourable for those who actually do the work within a company is the insatiable demands of the global financial caste. And lax and quantitative easing-focused monetary policy of central banks around the globe has only exacerbated the deluge of money desperately looking for profit. And major corporations now have all these additional hungry mouths to feed besides having to generate profit just to stay in business and be able to pay their employees. While smaller businesses are increasingly struggling to get loans approved at all.

How do we solve the problem of financial markets drowning in this liquidity that does more harm than good? Well, one way it is going to correct itself is that come the next financial market wide crash, much of that money will simply vanish into thin air again. But then we will have to deal with the next nightmare - commercial banks going tits up, blown central bank loans in the trillions, and zero-interest rates, which will leave no wiggle room for lowering, which was usually one of the key measures undertaken by central banks following a downturn to give the real sector a shot in the arm. If you're already at 0.25 percent, going down to zero will have next to no effect at all. Especially not if you've still got the financial sector in the loop.

We're fucked. Plain and simple. If you thought 2007/08 was bad, you better head for the hills before the current financial bubble starts bursting. If the 2008/08 financial crisis was a mega tsunami, then the next crisis is going to be the Chicxulub asteroid.
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5th March 2017
Sunday 5:00 am
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Yer wot yer student yer like money jobs and stuff. Loads of poor people and that.

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>> No. 11999 Anonymous
24th January 2017
Tuesday 9:53 am
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The enemies of the people Supreme Court have spoken. Article 50 requires an Act of Parliament, but Sewel is not enforceable so the devolved bodies can't veto it.

I'm calling it now. One-line bill imminent and Corbyn will three-line it.
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>> No. 12093 Anonymous
27th January 2017
Friday 7:07 pm
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Aren't amendments going to be debated?
>> No. 12094 Anonymous
27th January 2017
Friday 7:19 pm
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For some value of "debate". The government will no doubt try to get that strictly limited. The sitting is apparently slated to go past midnight, but with upwards of 50 amendments threatened by the SNP alone, the full day sitting, starting after prayers at 11am, works out to a little over 15 minutes each, which is just about long enough for a division.
>> No. 12095 Anonymous
27th January 2017
Friday 7:55 pm
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Why do you hate life?
>> No. 12233 Anonymous
5th February 2017
Sunday 3:43 am
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By 2018 - Geert Wilders and MLP to win.EU to collapse, Germany implodes. US, Russia and UK turn ISIS into jam.
>> No. 12234 Anonymous
5th February 2017
Sunday 10:32 am
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[citation needed]

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>> No. 12096 Anonymous
28th January 2017
Saturday 11:54 am
12096 Mikhail Gorbachev: 'It All Looks as if the World Is Preparing for War'
Nice knowing you, otherlads.

http://time.com/4645442/gorbachev-putin-trump/

>More troops, tanks and armored personnel carriers are being brought to Europe. NATO and Russian forces and weapons that used to be deployed at a distance are now placed closer to each other, as if to shoot point-blank.

>While state budgets are struggling to fund people’s essential social needs, military spending is growing. Money is easily found for sophisticated weapons whose destructive power is comparable to that of the weapons of mass destruction; for submarines whose single salvo is capable of devastating half a continent; for missile defense systems that undermine strategic stability.

>Politicians and military leaders sound increasingly belligerent and defense doctrines more dangerous. Commentators and TV personalities are joining the bellicose chorus. It all looks as if the world is preparing for war.
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29th January 2017
Sunday 11:46 am
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Happy new yea, Glorious People's Ministry of Propagandalad.
>> No. 12155 Anonymous
29th January 2017
Sunday 4:07 pm
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My argument is that you're unable to write a coherent post, which you have just demonstrated for a second time. How that reflects on your ability to think in general I'll not extrapolate on.
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29th January 2017
Sunday 4:50 pm
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Thanks. Please enjoy this medley of patriotic songs.


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29th January 2017
Sunday 9:21 pm
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>> No. 12162 Anonymous
30th January 2017
Monday 12:40 pm
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What. the fuck. is this.

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