>>13104
Of course he would have died anyway. Just probably not right there, right then, shortly after being hit by a van.

>Theresa May has said the Finsbury Park igloo attack justifies her plan to impose a raft of regulations on the internet.
>The Prime Minister was speaking outside 10 Downing Street after a white van ploughed into eskimo worshippers following prayers at the north London igloo, leaving one dead and 10 injured.
>"This Government will act to stamp out extremist and hateful ideology, both across society and on the internet," she said.
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/finsbury-park-igloo-attack-latest-theresa-may-internet-crackdown-justification-terrorism-web-a7797281.html

For a man with a hammer every problem is a nail I guess. I wonder if Labour will support this or fight it tooth and nail by abstaining on votes or getting mysterious flu-like symptoms that never quite go away.

>>13100
>>13103
Lads we're better than this. It's not about snowdrifts it's about low hanging fruit that everyone is going to repeat ad nauseam like we're living in an Eddie Izzard dystopia.

Before you post think, do you really want to lay awake at night in fear of the midnight knock from beret wearing secret police asking 'have you got flaaaag'?

>>13104
I can't imagine the van helped matters.

>>13110
I think it is better to ban vans.

>>13110
She really has no morals whatsoever. Christ.

>>13110
>getting mysterious flu-like symptoms that never quite go away.

I believe the correct medical term is 'selective diabetes'.

>>13068
They'll have to find him a partner otherwise he won't know which side to stand on, the poor thing.

>>13068
As long as it's not Stephen Mulhern.

>>13068
Dec & Dyer.

Commission a series immediately.

>>13067
They are the wrong way round. The normally always appear with Ant on the left, Dec on the right.

Cannit hack the sesh man

>>13048
If they're that conservative, you have to ask which you think they hate more, the Jews in Israel or the heretic apostates in Iran.

>>13049
Both. I"m not even joking. These people aren't rational. That's why their governments can't just come out as Israeli allies.

>>13044

/boo/

http://www.intrepidreport.com/archives/21394

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20170612-somalia-turns-down-80m-to-cut-ties-with-qatar/#.WT6hCKpOyt4

Why are the Saudis getting so desperate? Something seems off here.

>>13056
I reckon the Sauds are mindful of the accusations flying around about ISIS funding coming from their country, and so they're trying to make Qatar into a scapegoat.

Perhaps there's some connection to OPEC and the oil production cap, but that's straying a little closer to tinfoil hat territory.

>>12447
Local news asking the important questions as usual.

>A Devon football fan scored a massive own goal after he ate a nugget of horse poo in an Exeter street for a £40 bet after being egged on by his pals – leaving his girlfriend refusing to kiss him for a month after.

>Footage shows Exeter City fan Charlie Bamber chomp on the manure while children look on in horror outside a pub in the city. The 23-year-old can be seen retching violently after swallowing a lump of dirt - and later uses an entire tube of toothpaste in an attempt to clean out his mouth.

http://www.devonlive.com/watch-devon-football-fan-eating-horse-poo-for-a-bet-in-exeter-street/story-30253531-detail/story.html

>>12486

I went to a barn party at a farm estate once. It was a big party with probably close to 2,000 people, music and loads of booze. Anyway, there was a manure pit on the estate, which had been carefully cordoned off with a construction fence and a tarp cover over the fence. But somehow, some shitfaced git managed to climb over the fence late at night, and then plunged into the manure pit. They found him at 4 am, fast asleep on the edge of the manure pit, covered in shit.

Also reminds me of that time I was at a friend's little garden party; we were sat in his parents' summerhouse, and at some point I excused myself to go around the corner to have a wee. It was pitch dark outside, and I mistook a goldfish pond for a flower bed, and was going to walk straight across it to wee against a tree. Next thing I knew, I was standing in water up to my waist. Having suffered abounding laughter from my mates, I then took off my wet jeans and decided to pedal home on my bicycle half a mile to get some dry clothes. All the while thinking that I probably looked like a nonce, wearing nothing but a T-shirt and my white undies on a bicycle late at night, and my biggest fear was that I would be stopped by police. Luckily, nothing happened.

>>12585

To be fair lad, that happened to me last week. Although in my case I stepped off a dodgy clapboard bridge. Into a swamp. Thank fuck it had been raining.

>A man has been convicted by a jury of encouraging his girlfriend to have sex with a dog and warned to expect a prison sentence.

>Michael Smith filmed what happened between Gwen Kerr and the bull mastiff Tank, but weeks later showed it to a social worker claiming he was concerned for the grandmother’s welfare.

>He told a jury at Leeds Crown Court in evidence yesterday(thurs) he thought Kerr must be on drugs and only wanted to prove her strange behaviour and was not acting for any sexual gratification when he pressed record on his camcorder.

>Mark McKone prosecuting told the jury in opening that it was the crown’s case Smith had encouraged Kerr to have sex with the dog, filmed it and that was supported by Smith saying at one point “let him take it” and tapping Kerr on the buttocks during the sexual activity.

>Mr McKone said matters came to light when Smith went to Huddersfield social services on May 27 last year and showed a team leader the footage on a camcorder.

http://www.examiner.co.uk/news/man-found-guilty-encouraging-girlfriend-12987657

>>12814
You sound insufferable to be honest. I hope the Filipina nurse that wipes your arse when you're old and demented abuses you and sticks a nine inch dildo up your prolapsed arsehole. Fucking cunt.

>>12821
Looks like I'm not the only one.

I have a guy from The Telegraph here trying to make a documentary on the attack and how it relates to North Korea, does anyone have any believable nonsense I should feed him? I'd feel a little bad about it as he's a nice bloke but it is his job.

>>13034
>I have a guy from The Telegraph here trying to make a documentary on the attack and how it relates to North Korea
No you don't. But thanks for trying.

>>13034
ARE KIM has his prisoner gremlins coding 24/7 on ancient PC's. Like monkeys on Typewriters, trying to get the best hacks.

>>12992
Why do you think Brown was an economically incompetent Chancellor/Prime Minister?

>>12996

For starters, he sold off most of our gold reserves at a historic low price. At the very least, that suggests questionable judgement.

>>13000
Not really. There's no real benefit to be gained from holding on to gold, and it was unarguably a good choice to diversify national assets at the time. The fact that it would have been worth more at a later date says nothing much. If you're able to predict with any degree of accuracy long term changes in value of such a speculative asset you don't just have good judgement, you have precognition.

>>13000
Is that it? You say for starters. In terms of questionable judgement on the part of Chancellors that doesn't even approach the worst examples, and it certainly wasn't responsible for our "worst ever economic crisis".

>>12996
I could go on a long thing but for simplicities sake I'm just going to say PFI was shit and the "will he-won't he?" of the election in 2008 was sheer political ineptitude.

Plus, I mean, the London Underground Public-Private Partnership. Really, I'd rather not de-rail (oops?) the thread into an argument over the 1997-2010 government. I was just playing devil's advocate to stretch out the idea that it's right to say elements of both predictions came true. Every government has instances of incompetence (and thus, can be argued to be incompetent if you so wish.) so it's a pretty easy thing to do.

>>12685
>All but one of his alleged victims recanted
No, the offences timed out. That's not the same thing at all.

>if the British authorities had gotten a hold of him he would have been put on a plane to the US, not Sweden.
Nonsense. The EAW was pretty much the only thing guaranteeing that wouldn't happen. The UK was bound by international law to turn him over to Sweden. They couldn't let him walk, and they couldn't send him anywhere else. Sweden unequivocably had first dibs. Anything else would have caused an international incident.

>If he can make it back to Sweden
... he will be arrested and questioned for the one allegation that remains. They've dropped it for now, but they're entirely entitled to pick it up again at any time until that too times out in 2020.

>>12687
But all but one did recant, didn't they? Simply because the offense timed out doesn't have much (read: any) bearing on that.

>>12689
>But all but one did recant, didn't they?
What is it with people just repeating themselves lately?

>>12691
Different person. This is the nature of an anonymous imageboard, etc., etc.

Turns out then, that at least two people have noticed your "mistake".

>>12693
>Turns out then, that at least two people have noticed your "mistake".
I think you mean "at least two people have made the same mistake".

Pretty tiresome to see well worn attacks on theism posed with such obvious and unmerited self-satisfaction. Congrats, you've made it past the part of your childhood when you didn't question anything. If you're interested in an actual response to the questions you're posing, there exists a wealth of apologetics freely available for your perusal which attempt to address them. If not, don't bother, you're not impressing anybody.

>>12606

I should have said that my degree isn't in European law. As part of my business degree, at some point I developed a tentative interest in European law, so I attended a lecture or two on it towards the end of uni.

The professor's point was much more to shed light on how a country started over, after a period of history as disruptive to its own self as the Third Reich.

We also talked about the new post-Apartheid South African constitution, btw. Again very interestingly, the post-war German constitution served as a blueprint for a number of aspects of the new South African constitution. You even had law professors from German universities helping in the process of writing it. Our professor said he was friends with a law professor from Hamburg (?), who was part of a delegation of seasoned constitutional law experts visiting South Africa numerous times in the early to mid 1990s.

I'm coming to like the idea that we've just replaced religion with a more postmodern sort of civic-religion. Where instead of not believing in the lies you're generally told by society, we come over more to being smugly sceptical of things even as we proceed with the rituals anyway.

I'm not actually clever enough to reiterate it properly, but I still like it as a basic idea, and I don't think I'd be too wide of the mark to say it's essentially down to Christianity outliving it's usefulness to modern capitalism and getting the bullet. The randian superman shall inherit the earth -- BY WINNING THIS WEEK'S EPISODE OF THE GREAT BRITISH BAKE OFF!

Something not mentioned in this thread that I've seen elsewhere is that blasphemy is in the Irish constitution. There's a sort of meme going around which says that the 2009 law was introduced deliberately to be unenforceable, because to remove blasphemy from the constitution would take a referendum.

This is true enough, but it makes the law sound counter-intuitively brilliant, when it's not. The law needs to go, and the referendum needs to happen.

First, it doesn't matter if the law is enforceable or not if people are ignorant of its purpose and choose to self-censor. This is exactly what happened with the Scientology documentaries Going Clear and My Scientology Movie. Neither could find a distributor in Ireland because of fear of prosecution[1].

Second, under the government's 'Programme for Partnership', they pledge towards the end, section 8B on Constitutional Reform,

"We propose that a number of referenda be held. These include referenda on:
...
* The question of amending Article 40.6.1(i) of the Constitution to remove the offence
of blasphemy" [2]

This should be morally binding, more enforceable than a manifesto pledge. Obviously politicians lie and don't always fulfil every promise, but the current govt aren't supposed to be avoiding a referendum, as some people think.

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>>12646
These sorts of laws are tools. You'll sometimes hear them euphemistically referred to as "ways and means". On the one hand, they're there to provide a way of dealing with someone you might not otherwise be able to deal with. For example, if someone's getting a bit rough and a police officer happens to hear them swear, expect that person to be booked for s.5 Public Order Act, left in the cells to cool down and released without charge in the morning. Of course, since the law is there, the temptation exists to use it, as routinely happens in the case of s.5 across the country, where eventually either the CPS drops the charges before trial, or the court adds yet another case to the long list of decisions stating that, due to the nature of the job, front line officers have no business being alarmed or distressed by a bit of language.

Some of our older users may remember the time Iceland was briefly declared a terrorist state in order to freeze assets for a completely unrelated reason. It's the same problem that afflicts things like the Investigatory Powers Act, and should really have been at the heart of the Brexit legislation - once the powers exist, there's no effective check on how they can be used.

>>12581
It's just so odd to see a national paper that has it out for a city. Really weird.

>>12583
It doesn't really help that the man's an insufferable cunt.

There are suggestions that this is a token move to give Ofcom the impression that News Corp properties take things like this seriously, just as they have at Fox News.

>>12481
I heard similar about that Polish fella who was killed last year by a gang of kids in another Southern shithole. They were up to no good and were going to gang up and attack someone regardless.

>>12450
good

>>12542

A post like this, on a month old thread? You seem like quite the refugee yourself, pal.

>>12543

They're not refugees, they're economic migrants.

>>12544

Then what's your cunting excuse, twat?

>>12536
It is surely beyond doubt that they are. There are four Commissions, and the fact that they are supposedly independent doesn't matter. Like many other "independent" bodies, their terms of reference are set by the government, and just like the NHS Pay Review Body, the government have supplied terms favourable to themselves.

>>12532
But would you rather be beyond Breitbart?

>>12537

That, and I am not sure that these commissions will ever be truly "independent". It starts with the question of who gets to pick the members of such a commission. And people who will then end up serving as part of a political commission like that, if they are seasoned political experts, will themselves have had some sort of personal political history, and they will have, or have had some manner of ties to a political party. And thus, they will never be able to make truly independent decisions. It's all smoke and mirrors.

>>12539
This isn't the US. Violations of electoral law and funding rules are rarely punished there because the FEC has three reds and three blues and they end up deadlocked every time.

We're great respecters of the rule of law in this country. Even party loyalists can be persuaded to do the right thing. The best way of locking that down over here is to lay down terms of reference that prevent it. It didn't matter how much the PRB members love the NHS, their terms of reference effectively amount to "justify 1%". It doesn't matter if the members of the Boundary Commissions can see that basing their constituencies on the rolls rather than the census is unfair, their terms of reference are to use the rolls and they'll do as they're told or risk exceeding their remit (and never working in such a position again).

>>12538

I'd rather pretend neither existed frankly. I've no time for echo chambers whether left or right, they're hugboxes for people too emotionally fragile to read a paragraph of anything they disagree with.

>>12518
>saying another world leader is literally worse than Hitler.
As opposed to figuratively worse than Hitler?

>>12519
First day on the Internet, grandad?

>>12520
You don't see why such a vague value judgement statement is weirder to qualify with literally/figuratively, as opposed to saying "literally is Hitler" or something along those lines?

>>12521
It's a shit internet meme. It's not supposed to make sense.

I'm getting really fed up of Syria to be honest.

It's getting like that shit radio station your boring normal colleagues put on at work. The one where you've already heard Human by Rag'n'Bone Man once before morning coffee, and then twice more by your afternoon fag break.

It's just all starting to sound the same.

>>12443

WHILE YOU SLEEP
STANIKEK RISES

(A good day to you Sir!)

>>12444

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUxyg_DFMfM?start=7&end=9

>>12441

Nine times.

Couple of big drops via The Shadow Brokers & Wikileaks:

>Today's revelation exposes hacking attacks on EU states, as well as Latin America, Russia, China, Japan and South East Asia. Among the contents one also finds the hacking configuration for China Mobile, the world's largest mobile telecom company by number of subscribers.

https://medium.com/@shadowbrokerss/dont-forget-your-base-867d304a94b1

>WikiLeaks just dropped the CIA’s secret how-to for infecting Windows

https://arstechnica.co.uk/tech-policy/2017/04/wikileaks-just-dropped-the-cias-secret-how-to-for-infecting-windows/

>>12507
Naturally the timing is entirely coincidental. Someone just happened to finish prepping this batch for release this week.

Something about this picture doesn't seem right, but I can't quite place it.

>>12288
>>12289
Not him, but Obama's FP record is hardly impressive. His greatest achievement is probably deciding not to get too involved in Syria.

>>12293
Cuba? Iran? Paris accord? IS in full retreat?

>>12293

Leaving the door open for Russia and letting Assad free to use chemical weapons against civilians? Not intervening in Syria is possibly his biggest failure. Red line my arse.

>>12484

> letting Assad free to use chemical weapons against civilians

Fake news. Sad!