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|>>|| No. 20059
>Therefore on some level you have to make assumptions because he has made assumptions about what you know and he needs to tell you, and he is going to be hyperbolic and phrase things back to front that's part of him being an idiot.
Sadly, my crystal ball is on the blink, so I can't really guess what those assumptions might be without projecting my own biases onto him.
>The best test I could suggest is if you asked him do you think would disagree with my statement or do you think he would say. "Yeah, da's wot i men' " and I think it is the latter.
That's quite literally putting words in his mouth.
|>>|| No. 20060
Still, not many people will be ready to believe that a fascist dictator who was responsible for the biggest genocide in history, including the deaths of hundreds of thousands of children just like the ones he played with at Berghof, also had a gentle side.
|>>|| No. 20064
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> But people will still happily buy an Alexa and call you paranoid when you mention them being used to infringe privacy.
One of my friends covered the social side of internet security at uni, and honestly this is the greatest paradox, people insist that they want privacy and not to share their data but seem not to be able to help themselves as soon as something is offered for it, they forget they shouldn't accept candy from strangers.
I remember a few years ago seeing a person just walking around a bar offering a low quality free shot to anyone who gave them their email address as a promotion, and people just fill that shit in without thinking, coz free shot!
|>>|| No. 20066
>I remember a few years ago seeing a person just walking around a bar offering a low quality free shot to anyone who gave them their email address as a promotion, and people just fill that shit in without thinking, coz free shot!
Back in the old days when cigarette marketing wasn't quite the leper of the advertising world yet that it is now, I remember I was at a bar with a few mates one night and two lasses in Lucky Strike branded outfits came in and offered each of us a free ten pack (do those still exist? ) of Lucky Strikes if we agreed to give them our address details, it was something about the possibility of winning big prizes or something. Naturally all of us did, none of us won any prizes, but I distinctly remember an increase in spam mail (the paper kind) in the following weeks. I wasn't normally that free about givin away my address, so the bastards must have sold it to spammers. And probably got more for my data than it cost them to produce a ten pack of Lucky Strikes.
|>>|| No. 20067
> I remember a few years ago seeing a person just walking around a bar offering a low quality free shot to anyone who gave them their email address as a promotion, and people just fill that shit in without thinking, coz free shot!
What if they were giving him fake email addresses?
|>>|| No. 20068
Back in the day, whenever you went to any sort of political meeting or rally, there was always someone enthusiastically collecting signatures for some or other petition. Romanian orphans, Nicaraguan political prisoners, animal cruelty in Spain, you name it, there was always something new to petition against.
You can see where this is going. It turned out that most of those enthusiastic young men were undercover rozzers of some description; those petitions were basically their way of taking the register.
|>>|| No. 20069
The most devilish thing about the current generation of mass surveillance is that the intrusion is pretty intangible until it's too late.
It's hard to justify the need for protection when the harm isn't being felt.
|>>|| No. 20070
>What if they were giving him fake email addresses?
Her, you always send a disarming naive looking girl to do your most devious work.
>fake email addresses?
I assume some of them were. But enough of them probably weren't to be worth their time. It think there was also some token competition that they wanted to contact people to let them know they won which is enough for people to give away their details.
|>>|| No. 20330
The OK hand sign has been added to a list of hate symbols.
The finger-and-thumb gesture - which is also a popular emoji - is being used by some as a "sincere expression of white supremacy", according to the Anti-Defamation League (ADL).
The ADL says the OK symbol has become a "popular trolling tactic" from "right-leaning individuals, who often post photos to social media of themselves posing while making the gesture".
It started out as an online joke on 4Chan - taking an innocent gesture and pretending there was a hidden meaning behind it, hoping to trick the media and left-leaning people into outrage. But the joke was so successful and widespread among the far-right, that many believe the OK sign is changing meaning.
Reality sure is weird.
|>>|| No. 20331
Only if you think that being on the list somehow means it's definitely a hate symbol and nothing else.
|>>|| No. 20332
I mean it started as a joke, but it was a joke successful enough that the people it was a joke about actually took it on.
Also aren't those the same lot who say the sad face frog is a hate symbol? Basically anything that would connect you to 4chan is a thoughtcrime dogwhistle these days really. Wierd considering its where most of Internet culture actually came from.
|>>|| No. 20333
It's not about it being on the list. It's the entire fucking thing. At some point this timeline went well and truly bonkers.
|>>|| No. 20334
> Also aren't those the same lot who say the sad face frog is a hate symbol?
Well it has been linked to the BNP.
|>>|| No. 20335
GET YOUR BRITS OUT
GET YOUR BRITS OUT
GET YOUR BRITS OUT FOR THE LADS (FOR THE LADS)
GET YOUR BRITS OUT FOR THE LADS
|>>|| No. 20337
The alt-right, or whatever you call them internationally, deliberately adopt these things just so they can turn around and claim that it's ridiculous that anyone would think it. Pepe or the "ok" hand symbol or anything.
|>>|| No. 20338
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>Also aren't those the same lot who say the sad face frog is a hate symbol?
If I remember right, the ADL gave a nuanced opinion that it depends on the context even after Hillary Clinton named Pepe as the leader of the Alt-Right. I still don't think 2019 will top 2016 in that sense.
If you read otherlads article the same is true here although it does lead you to a rather fun list all the same:
|>>|| No. 20339
This whole thing has been sensationalised. Their list is only indicators, it's not meant to be definitive. It's saying that the things on the list have been used as hate symbols, not that everyone who uses it does so.
A couple of threads popped up in another place advocating for the adoption of the ADL itself. Just another day on the crazy side of the web, I guess.
|>>|| No. 20340
>The number 737 is a numeric symbol used by Public Enemy Number 1 (PENI), a California-based white supremacist gang present on California's streets and in its prisons. The numbers 737 correspond to the letters P, D, and S on a telephone keypad; the initials PDS stand for Peni Death Squad, another name for the group.
|>>|| No. 20344
>The number 82 is a numeric symbol used by Neue Sturmabteilung, a German neo-Nazi group active throughout central Europe. The numbers 82 correspond both to a second coming of Hitler (H = 8), and the letter S and A on a telephone keypad.
|>>|| No. 20357
I only read the article to see if they'd mention that the kid is making the same gesture.
This whole OK thing is spectacularly insidious, though. Co-opting a harmless gesture just muddies so many waters. Are we laughing off a genuine racially motivated symbol here, or are we getting angry at a perfectly innocent person with only good intentions? Either way, every time it comes up, the debate about race is stirred up a little bit more, with everyone feeling emboldened to either attack or defend on such a ridiculous issue.
I think a psyops agent couldn't have even dreamed of coming up with such a neat and tidy way of driving a further wedge between the American voters. It's gotten so bad now it's just happening naturally.
I wonder if people over here will start seeing it as a racist thing too, because I use the gesture constantly at work, it's just as habitual as a thumbs up.
|>>|| No. 20358
What if he was just resting his hand like that. They talk about a video but it could just as well be an awkward resting position in those gloves on a child's shoulder that got someone fired.
It also remains weird as fuck that Pacha from The Emperor's New Groove became the spiritual leader of the alt-right. I hope the history books remember to include that bit.
|>>|| No. 20359
Sort of a weird tangent, but as a member of the furry community, I'm not at all looking forward to the drama that will ensue when all the people who have commissioned telegram stickers in the Pacha pose or just a general OK symbol start getting called out because of this.
|>>|| No. 20361
Excuse me but I think you'll find I'm the only furfag in this imageboard.
Granted. That said furries tend not to get bent about whatever nonsense 4chan is up to because there's a lot of overlap in terms of general internet culture. Plenty of them manage to be alt right at the same time as gay/trans/etc as all fuck.
|>>|| No. 20362
I swear you pair pick a new occupation, a hobby and a mental illness out of a hat at the beginning of each month and start role-playing each one for the next four weeks.
|>>|| No. 20366
I've thought this too. I mean where's chef lad these days? I'm guessing someone found some real cheflad's blog, copied various entries and adapted them for posts here, then got bored after a while and took on a new role.
|>>|| No. 20368
I'm one of the cheflads, and I've taken a hard turn into a new career, which is why you might not have heard any kitchen stories in a while. I still have one foot in the business as the consultant work I was doing went far better than expected, so now it's a proper business I've gotten a few other lads involved in, so now I'm not really putting in a huge amount of time there. Since the success of the business mostly aligned with my turning 30 and the resultant existential crisis, I decided I wanted to go back to hands on work but didn't want to go back to kitchens, so I've started a new career in an entirely different industry.
My mental illnesses and hobbies remain the same, however.
|>>|| No. 20369
Anyone remember the Cheflad who dropped vague hints about where his restaurant was and offered a free meal to any of us (literally) mad lads who managed to hunt him down and book a table? I was collecting all the clues like a little autistic Sherlock Holmes before he buggered off without a trace.
|>>|| No. 20370
That sounds like something I'd do, though I have no recollection of it. Dont suppose you remember any hints?
|>>|| No. 20371
How do you know it's not one lad who is very varied in his interests?
Actually we know chefs tend to be mentalists, so it's pretty likely he is also one of the resident Fetlife lot. Which is far from mutually exclusive with being a furry, in fact they go hand in hand. There's nothing to stop him playing Warhammer and collecting succulents on top of that. He probably doesn't get much time for it all, but he still squeezes a couple of trips to Gran Canaria in each year, so he must be doing alright.
|>>|| No. 20372
I think it started off as a very broad area and then ended up being narrowed down to being a fairly posh place in Hull. For all I know it was just someone having a laugh with OCD autists like myself.
|>>|| No. 20374
This was somewhere in the 2012-2014 zone that was basically just one big drugs haze for me, btw. So it's possible that along with being a fairly long time ago, I'm also misremembering and/or conflating some things (the Hull restaurant might be something else entirely, for example).
There were also a fair amount of Amsterdamlads, with me being one of them. I remember there were at least two of us in Amsterdam at the same time but by the time the otherlad revealed himself I was already on my way back to blighty.
I've spent altogether way too much of my life on this website.
|>>|| No. 20375
Not me then, I only ever ran places in West Yorkshire, never the east.
I did offer someone a job once but nothing came of it.
|>>|| No. 20376
> He probably doesn't get much time for it all, but he still squeezes a couple of trips to Gran Canaria in each year, so he must be doing alright.
|>>|| No. 20377
I seem to recall is was Leeds or Harrogate, and his name was on the door. One time the doorman (What kind of restaurant has security?) wouldn't let him in because he was looking scruffy, and he had to go full Gordon Ramsey on him.
|>>|| No. 20378
This does sound like me.
Doorman in this context would be more like a host, or maitre'd or even the bloke outside Harvey Nicks wot opens the door for people, rather than a bouncer. I've worked in places like that. I have also worked in a 'gastrobar' that had actual bouncers, but posh ones in suits.
I don't remember being rejected from my own establishment, nor have I ever had my name above the door, at least not in a literal sense, with a big sign or anything. Certainly if you googled my name you would find it linked to certain West Yorkshire establishments. Maybe that's what I meant, or I was just trying to impress everyone here by implying I owned the place.
I was also on a lot of drugs back then though, so it's entirely possible I've either forgotten the doorman story or made it up in a haze of coke after being turned away from a nightclub I had nothing to do with.
It does seem like it was definitely me dropping these clues though, unless there was another Leeds/Yorkshire based chef on here two or three years ago too, but I probably would have noticed that.
|>>|| No. 20379
I do remember the doorman thing. It was the pretentious posh bar/restaurant place, and the bloke was new. He wouldn't let me in, to go to work, and I kicked off. I think I showed him my knives, which probably didn't help, upon reflection.
I was likely off my tits too, so he was doing a good job by keeping people like me out.
|>>|| No. 20380
>I still have one foot in the business as the consultant work
Also known as putting as many black pudding towers into the Greene King menu range as possible.
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