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>> No. 13979 Anonymous
13th November 2017
Monday 2:40 pm
13979 Geldof is a twat
>Bob Geldof has said he will return his Freedom of the City of Dublin in protest against the Myanmar leader Aung San Suu Kyi, who also holds the award.

>Mr Geldof said "her association with our city shames us all". Ms Suu Kyi has faced heavy criticism over her failure to address allegations of ethnic cleansing against Myanmar's Rohingya eskimos.

>Reacting to Mr Geldof's announcement, Lord Mayor Micheal Mac Donnacha of Dublin City Council said on Monday: "I find it ironic that he makes this gesture while proudly retaining his title as Knight Commander of the Order of the British Empire, given the shameful record of British imperialism across the globe."

Hahahaha, well quite.
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>> No. 13980 Anonymous
13th November 2017
Monday 2:51 pm
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>>13979
Translation:

>Geldof: Either she needs to sort her shit out or you yours.
>Mayor: And you are lynching negroes!
>> No. 13981 Anonymous
13th November 2017
Monday 5:15 pm
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>>13979
The difference is being a knight is pretty cool and you get to lord your title over everyone. The Freedom of Dublin City is easily traded away for some moral brownie points because it's shit.
>> No. 13992 Anonymous
14th November 2017
Tuesday 9:16 pm
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How many more fucking fundraisers do we need before people can stop starving? What a load of bollocks.
>> No. 13993 Anonymous
15th November 2017
Wednesday 3:45 am
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>>13992

They've been starving since 1984 if they hadn't have bothered they would all be long dead by now. Would seem like the kinder thing to do really.
>> No. 13995 Anonymous
16th November 2017
Thursday 1:39 am
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>>13992
We have more than enough food produced every year that nobody has to go hungry. It's just a question of distribution. As for how to reorganise society so as to facilitate equitable distribution, I can recommend a certain Manifesto.
>> No. 13997 Anonymous
16th November 2017
Thursday 4:14 am
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>>13995

>As for how to reorganise society so as to facilitate equitable distribution, I can recommend a certain Manifesto.

Aw bless your naivety, that's like saying #thoughts and prayer stops mass shootings. You can want what you like, if the capacity is lacking it isn't going to happen. And the means of distribution do not exist, otherwise food would never be allowed to rot it would just be shipped to where there was a demand, no one sets out to make sure that food rots.

The Soviet Union didn't have supply problems because it wasn't ideolically pure enough.
>> No. 13998 Anonymous
16th November 2017
Thursday 5:39 am
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>>13997
>otherwise food would never be allowed to rot it would just be shipped to where there was a demand
This reads like economist-think where 'demand' for a good is only actually demand if you can pay for it.

Letting food rot is cheaper than shipping food across the world to people who lack the cash to pay for the food itself, let alone the transportation and a profit margin. Companies weight higher Q4 profits against stopping food rot all the time, and I've yet to hear of one that decides on paying out of their own pocket to avoid waste.
>> No. 13999 Anonymous
16th November 2017
Thursday 9:42 am
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>>13998

There are currently four serious famines happening in the world - Nigeria, South Sudan, Yemen and Somalia. In each case, the difference between a bad harvest and a catastrophic famine is war. WFP and USAID have literal boatloads of food aid on standby, but they can't it get to where it's needed. The ports are blockaded, the roads are impassable and the logistical infrastructure has been destroyed. Warlords are murdering aid workers, blocking convoys to rival areas and stealing everything that crosses their turf.

America's agricultural surpluses could feed the whole of Africa several times over. They're more than happy to give it away, largely because it legitimises the huge agricultural subsidies that have led to massive over-production. Aid agencies have massive logistical resources. The problem isn't food, it isn't money and it isn't political will - it's trying to deliver massive quantities of food in the middle of a civil war.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-39039255
>> No. 14000 Anonymous
16th November 2017
Thursday 10:00 am
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>>13999
>The ports are blockaded, the roads are impassable and the logistical infrastructure has been destroyed. Warlords are murdering aid workers, blocking convoys to rival areas and stealing everything that crosses their turf.
Hmm if only USAID was, say, an organ of an extremely powerful state with capacity for power projection on an unprecedented scale.
>> No. 14001 Anonymous
16th November 2017
Thursday 10:07 am
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>>14000

US military intervention in a complex multi-party civil conflict? I can't see how that could go wrong.
>> No. 14002 Anonymous
16th November 2017
Thursday 11:44 am
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>>14001

They don't have to militarily intervene. They could just put a couple of 50 cal machine-guns on the front of food trucks. Or deliver it in Chinooks with fuck off miniguns. Or invest a fraction of what they are doing intervening in the Middle East quite happily, but we all know whittle elephant in the room there is.
>> No. 14003 Anonymous
16th November 2017
Thursday 2:04 pm
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>>14002
That would be intervening militarily.
>> No. 14004 Anonymous
16th November 2017
Thursday 3:25 pm
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>>14003

It's not, it's delivering food and shooting cunts who try nick the food.
>> No. 14005 Anonymous
16th November 2017
Thursday 4:22 pm
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>>14004
If aid workers try and deliver food but can't do it without military support, and the government or warlord or whoever controls the territory where the food delivery is taking place refuse permission for the military support to be there, then that would constitute a military invasion.
>> No. 14006 Anonymous
16th November 2017
Thursday 4:59 pm
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>>13998

Whilst your criticism has merit I was simplifying issues in my comment to a level that a person who thinks 'just use communism' is the answer to the problem would understand.
>> No. 14007 Anonymous
16th November 2017
Thursday 7:45 pm
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>>14003
The Berlin airlift wasn't a military intervention, lad.
>> No. 14008 Anonymous
16th November 2017
Thursday 7:46 pm
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>>14006
Nobody said 'just use communism' though.
>> No. 14009 Anonymous
16th November 2017
Thursday 8:21 pm
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>>14007
Freedom of navigation, lad.
>> No. 14010 Anonymous
16th November 2017
Thursday 8:34 pm
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>>14007

That's correct. The aircraft were unarmed and unescorted, and the Americans were not an intervening power but an occupying force.
>> No. 14011 Anonymous
16th November 2017
Thursday 8:54 pm
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>>14010
And of course warlords in Somalia have anti air capability which would render that approach nonviable in this instance.
>> No. 14012 Anonymous
16th November 2017
Thursday 9:05 pm
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Trying to imagine the kind of person who would go to such lengths to insist that, actually, it's impossible for a motivated superpower to deliver food to starving people and man it's a bleak picture.
>> No. 14013 Anonymous
16th November 2017
Thursday 9:38 pm
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>>14011
Sorry, I wasn't aware that you were suggesting delivering food aid to American enclaves in Somalia using personnel who are not armed but somehow still have guns.
>> No. 14014 Anonymous
16th November 2017
Thursday 9:43 pm
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>>14013
I didn't mention guns.
>> No. 14015 Anonymous
16th November 2017
Thursday 9:55 pm
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>>14008
>As for how to reorganise society so as to facilitate equitable distribution, I can recommend a certain Manifesto

I assumed they weren't referring to Mein Kampf.
>> No. 14016 Anonymous
16th November 2017
Thursday 10:31 pm
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>>14014

Airdrops are spectacularly expensive and can make the situation on the ground worse; badly planned airdrops just give warlords another resource to fight over. Food represents only a small part of a humanitarian famine response. Effective famine relief needs to include medical and logistical support.

Airdrops are used when there's no alternative, but they're never more than a sticking plaster. A lasting solution to conflict-related famine always requires negotiation with the warring parties.

http://intercrossblog.icrc.org/blog/what-you-need-to-know-about-humanitarian-airdrops
>> No. 14017 Anonymous
16th November 2017
Thursday 10:45 pm
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>>14016
>Airdrops are spectacularly expensive
And foreign aid makes up a spectacularly small proportion of expenditure in most developed countries.
>> No. 14018 Anonymous
16th November 2017
Thursday 10:55 pm
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>>14014
>They could just put a couple of 50 cal machine-guns on the front of food trucks. Or deliver it in Chinooks with fuck off miniguns.
>> No. 14019 Anonymous
16th November 2017
Thursday 11:02 pm
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>>14018
You do understand that this website isn't just you and me having a back and forth, as thoroughly enjoyable as I'm sure that would be?
>> No. 14020 Anonymous
16th November 2017
Thursday 11:05 pm
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>>14019
Says Mr "I didn't mention guns".
>> No. 14021 Anonymous
16th November 2017
Thursday 11:09 pm
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>>14020
Yes, I didn't. Someone else did. That is the nature of an anonymous imageboard mate.
>> No. 14022 Anonymous
16th November 2017
Thursday 11:18 pm
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>>14021
>Yes, I didn't. Someone else did.
Where did you get the impression that anyone actually cared?
>> No. 14023 Anonymous
17th November 2017
Friday 12:48 am
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>>14022
The repeated responses were an indicator.
>> No. 14024 Anonymous
17th November 2017
Friday 2:32 am
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>>14023
I don't know. I mean, the actual text of said responses seems to suggest a distinct lack of caring about exactly who typed what.
>> No. 14025 Anonymous
17th November 2017
Friday 3:15 am
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>>14024
Well no, the implication of self-contradiction, which is what was posted, actually relies on the total opposite assumption.
>> No. 14026 Anonymous
17th November 2017
Friday 3:32 am
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The poster doth protest too much, methinks
>> No. 14027 Anonymous
17th November 2017
Friday 5:13 pm
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OP here, what the fuck have you lads done to my thread.
>> No. 14028 Anonymous
17th November 2017
Friday 5:40 pm
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>>14027
Attack of the Lads part II: The Threadening.
>> No. 14029 Anonymous
17th November 2017
Friday 6:43 pm
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>>14027
> my thread
It's our thread now.
>> No. 14030 Anonymous
17th November 2017
Friday 8:29 pm
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>>14017
>And foreign aid makes up a spectacularly small proportion of expenditure in most developed countries.

Holy shit, lads! Someone get the United Nations on the phone -better ring up any of those apparently feckless aid experts as well, we've got ourselves a genius solution here.

Please, expand on your "throw money at it" thesis. Let's see your solution to the food insecurity in the Sudan region and maybe if it's so easy you can solve Somalia too. I can actually think of one simplistic solution that could work but I'll see if we arrive at the same conclusion.
>> No. 14031 Anonymous
18th November 2017
Saturday 5:35 am
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>>14002
>They don't have to militarily intervene. They could just put a couple of 50 cal machine-guns on the front of food trucks. Or deliver it in Chinooks with fuck off miniguns.
Here's how that goes. One village come along and happily grab all the rice etc. Then when the aid with the guns has gone, the warlords come along, and chop off the hands of anyone seen getting it (and they take the food). Word gets around, and next time, nobody goes to the food truck, except the militia, who take it straight to the warlords.

You can't just roll in with some food and save the day. The conflict needs resolving.
>> No. 14032 Anonymous
18th November 2017
Saturday 3:05 pm
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>>13999
Drones that airdrop food aid instead of missiles.
>> No. 14033 Anonymous
18th November 2017
Saturday 3:36 pm
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>>14032
Sandwiches made of hair that you can eat and put on head.
>> No. 14034 Anonymous
18th November 2017
Saturday 3:44 pm
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>>14032
See >>14031.
>> No. 14035 Anonymous
18th November 2017
Saturday 4:33 pm
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>>14032
Drones are for dropping bombs, not food.
>> No. 14036 Anonymous
18th November 2017
Saturday 4:46 pm
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>>14035

What about a compromise; drones that drop Pop Rocks?
>> No. 14037 Anonymous
18th November 2017
Saturday 5:15 pm
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>>14033

We'll aid drop ever lasting gobstoppers that was orginally designed for children with very little pocket money

And we'll give exploding candy to the warlords.

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