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|>>|| No. 21041
Lads are you worried about the coronavirus?
I've purposely not read up about it. Mainly because the SARS, Swine Flu, Bird Flu and Ebola threat was over-hyped by the media. Prediction wise, I think after several months it will be contained and everyone will eventually forget about it.
What do you think?
|>>|| No. 23441
I wouldn't put Monbiot in the same league as Toynbee or Jones. Monbiot's flaw is that he has specialist knowledge in one particular area and uses to act like an authority about subject matters he's clearly out of his depth with whereas Toynbee and Jones are completely clueless on just about everything.
|>>|| No. 23442
>>23440 If this episode convinces some of those bastards that being community spirited is more about helping out, and less about being a moaning soul-draining cunt, then that will be a blessing.
|>>|| No. 23443
The problem with these superhero imitators is that they don't have a nemesis. Stockport Spiderman would be much more interesting if he was followed around by a bloke wearing a Green mask that threw cans at him and smeared shit on peoples cars.
|>>|| No. 23444
That just sounds like Stockport needs more tramps, which I'm sure can't be true.
|>>|| No. 23447
>Coronavirus: Goats take over empty streets of seaside town
>A herd of goats has taken over a deserted town centre, eating hedges and flowers from gardens. Usually, the wild herd of about 122 Kashmiri goats venture from the Great Orme into Llandudno during bad weather. But town councillor Carol Marubbi believes the lack of people around because of coronavirus has drawn them down.
>"They are curious, goats are, and I think they are wondering what's going on like everybody else," she said. The goats - some of which have recently had kids - have been spotted nibbling flowers. She said everyone in Llandudno was "very proud" of the animals and they had been providing "free entertainment" to people from their windows.
>"There are very few visitors on the top [of the Orme], so they have come down in their droves," she said. "There isn't anyone else around so they probably decided they may as well take over."
The animals sense our weakness.
I was actually thinking the other day that supermarket lorry drivers and the like probably do deserve a pat on the back. Then again, they've probably been making considerable overtime on the panic buyers.
Not with a cheer mind you, it's not very British.
|>>|| No. 23448
I didn't request reassignment to a frontline job because I want to help you lot, but because I want to die from coronavirus. Fuck off.
|>>|| No. 23449
I love how the original has been bastardised so much by people shouting "what about me?"
You think you've covered everything and then someone shouts "don't forget about us at Pets At Home, we're proud key workers too!" so you have to hastily paste their logo in.
|>>|| No. 23451
Even then there's loads of shit people would never think of. The company that makes Citadel paints (the Warhammer ones) for example, has switched to making hand sanitiser, let's have a clap for the poor sods still being forced into the factory.
|>>|| No. 23452
No, seriously. Nobody deserves applause just for doing their fucking jobs. Frontline NHS staff, maybe. Nobody else. If anything the people who get to carry on as normal are the lucky ones.
|>>|| No. 23453
Are we even facing hand sanitiser shortages? I keep reading about shitloads of companies switching production but I only seem to read that it's PPE and ventilators we desperately need.
|>>|| No. 23454
The only places I've seen it recently are small shops who have raised the price to £10 for a travel size bottle.
|>>|| No. 23456
We're a bit short on hand sanitiser. So many people are making it because it's utterly trivial to make - mix isopropyl alcohol, water and propylene glycol, stick it in a bottle and you've got hand sanitiser. The real constraint is the supply of IPA, but it's fairly easy for chemical suppliers to ramp up production and you can substitute ethanol at a pinch.
The supply of N95 respirators is bottlenecked by the supply of meltblown polypropylene fabric, which is the necessary filter media - nothing else is sufficiently breathable while still fine enough to filter aerosols. Meltblown PP requires expensive and specialised machinery with a normal lead-time of >6 months.
Existing ventilator suppliers just don't have the production capacity, even if their component suppliers give them first dibs on everything. We want ventilators, but so does every other fucker, so they're like golddust on the global market. We're asking all and sundry to have a crack at it, but I'm not massively confident that most of the prospective suppliers will be able to deliver useable machines in time for them to be useful, with the exception of the Mercedes F1 CPAP machines.
|>>|| No. 23457
Why will it reportedly take up to 1 year or beyond to develop a vaccine?
As I understand it, you need a dead or inactivated form of the virus which you inject into patients. Given that the virus has been isolated and sequenced, what's the issue?
Or is it the timeline for accreditation and clinical trials causing delay?
|>>|| No. 23458
We need to test it, because a lot of novel vaccines either don't work or cause more harm than good. We're doing that as quickly as we can for multiple candidate vaccines, but it can't happen overnight. Nearly 90% of new vaccines fail at some stage of clinical testing and we have never successfully developed a vaccine for any species of coronavirus, so we might need a few goes at it. Once we've developed a vaccine that works and is reasonably safe, we need to produce and distribute billions of doses, which is an enormous logistical task.
A normal development timescale for a new drug or vaccine would be more than five years, so 12 months really is a rush job.
|>>|| No. 23459
I have discovered the solution to all the horny people: bring back glory holes. If they're properly sanitised and protection is used correctly, everyone can get laid without exposing themselves to the virus.
|>>|| No. 23460
It's no good making a vaccine that works, give it to everyone and find out a year later it causes sterilisation for an extreme example.
|>>|| No. 23465
Your understanding is drastically oversimplified to put it bluntly. It's thereabouts that simple for some things, for example it's a fortunate happenstance that cowpox gives you immunity to smallpox. The way the body's immune response works to other diseases isn't quite as co-operative.
The flu vaccine is a cocktail of possible strains that try to predict which this year's will be, and it does give you symptoms while your body reacts to it. Ebola was a particularly tricky one, because ensuring an effective immunity could have been about as deadly as the real thing.
|>>|| No. 23466
It's a mixture of low intellect and the adulation from hordes of frothing underage gash going to your head. Sooner or later your inflated sense of importance will come crashing down into reality and not everyone can handle this.
|>>|| No. 23467
I mean he's probably got the timescale a bit off but he's surely not wrong.
|>>|| No. 23469
The problem is that you also have to be sure that a vaccine which may actually prevent the virus from doing much damage in your body isn't going to have unforeseen side effects. Depending on how many people of the global population will already have been infected by the time your Covid-19 vaccine becomes available, it is still going to have to be safe to use on two to three billion people without leading to catastrophic side effects in even a tiny minority of patients. Even if only 0.1 percent of your patients develop severe adverse reactions to your vaccine, which is an acceptable number for a lot of approved pharmaceutical drugs, that is still up to three million people. So that even if you already have an effective drug in theory, the steps from first creating it to getting it approved and then making it widely available to patients can take five years or more. You're really bending the boundaries of ethics standards if you try to sidestep that process just to deliver your vaccine quicker. Even predictions that a vaccine will exist by next year are fraught with great risks that you are taking on that way.
|>>|| No. 23470
Deaths up 563 since Tuesday to 2,352. That's about 24% of the overall death toll. Welp.
|>>|| No. 23471
Please keep us posted. The running total of decaying corpses is hard to come by anywhere else.
|>>|| No. 23472
Yeah, we might as well just delete the entire thread because we can read about it elsewhere.
|>>|| No. 23474
I've no objection to the rest of your banal coronavirus wittering, but I draw the line at reproducing without comment the permanent national news headline. If you two can complain about posting Daily Mail links and reposting Reddit content I can complain about this.
|>>|| No. 23476
Are you of the belief I didn't imagine this exact reply when typing my previous one? You're not defending yourself from the accusation of banality very well.
Let's not argue. It's not how we should spend our final few weeks.
|>>|| No. 23480
>A woman has been fined for breaching coronavirus restrictions after she refused to tell police who she was and why she was at a railway station.
>Marie Dinou, 41, from York, was arrested at Newcastle Central Station at 08:00 GMT on Saturday.
>North Tyneside Magistrates' Court imposed a £660 fine under the Coronavirus Act 2020 on Monday.
>Dinou, who did not enter a plea, was also ordered to pay a victim surcharge of £66 and costs of £85.
|>>|| No. 23481
I'm disappointed that we didn't get any decent April Fools jokes today. You would think now would be a good time for a little humour.
>the adulation from hordes of frothing underage gash
Maybe 15 years ago. Unless we've got another Ian Watkins on our hands.
|>>|| No. 23482
>Deaths up 563 since Tuesday to 2,352. That's about 24% of the overall death toll.
For reference and comparison, the normal UK death rate in the days before covid-19 was about 1,600 people per day. So we'd be on thereabouts 150,000 since January if we weren't in the middle of the most deadly pandemic since Spanish flu. I am posting these figures without comment.
Today, what I wanted to post about is this. Can we launch a campaign to have the Daily Mail shut down until the end of this? They really are a fucking threat to national security at this point, their scaremongering and outrage-baiting is really inappropriate. I read another article by them today about testing capacity, and it mentioned about how hundreds of thousands of "testing kits" are sat unused, and how one UK firm is selling "testing kits" to foreign countries.
Testing kits are just a swab and a request form in a plastic bag. The issue is lab capacity, which as I've mentioned before, is very bluntly and directly a matter of having big enough machines to take all the swabs. They're just about starting to ramp it up by sourcing more machines, but they should have been doing that months ago (and hell, if it wasn't for the Tories we might have already had them.) Even so, the bottom line is that in normal times these machines only see very light use because clinical virology is a tiny, tiny niche of the everyday workload of an NHS pathology lab.
Then we have the issue of ragents- People are asking why Germany has so much testing, and the answer is really very simple. Germany is the reagents, and they're largely the machines too. More than half the gear in my lab is sourced from German companies like Starstedt or Bruker. Their chemical industry is and always has been peerless, as people might remember from famous historical events in which the Germans turned to the chemical industry for a solution. The Mail of all people should know about that.
Sage ticked as fuck.
|>>|| No. 23485
April Fool's is never funny and literally nothing is made less funny because we're all about to die.
I just read your article. That's definitely funny. Lighten up, gramps.
|>>|| No. 23487
Yes, absolutely. If the POTUS is full of absolute shite, chatting pure breeze on the daily I don't see why muggins here should tell the truth. In reality I'm far too lazy to be publicising news, fake or real but fake news is definitely funny when it alarms the gullible.
|>>|| No. 23488
So you think it's funny to add fuel to the fire when there's already no shortage of fake news about the virus?
There can be pretty funny April fools jokes. This isn't one of them.
|>>|| No. 23491
>The London-listed company used the announcement to trumpet the positive aspects of its tobacco empire, saying that “new, fast-growing tobacco plant technology” put it ahead of others trying to develop a vaccine.
>“Tobacco plants offer the potential for faster and safer vaccine development compared with conventional methods,” the company said.
I'm not a biotech expert, mind, but this just sounds completely made up.
But if it's not - I've been off fags for almost a decade, but sod it, if it keeps off the virus, I'll go and buy a pack tonight.
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