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>> No. 95183 Anonymous
9th January 2022
Sunday 6:18 pm
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https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/welcome-to-the-end-of-democracy

https://archive.is/XuZTt

tl;dr rich getting richer, poor getting poorer, middle class is getting eroded, minimal hope for young generations unless they stand to inherit wealth

Is there a way out?
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>> No. 95206 Anonymous
11th January 2022
Tuesday 8:53 pm
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>>95204

>Trotsky went around insisting the USSR was capitalist. Granted, Stalin evidentially didn't like that one bit.

As far as I can tell, nobody really liked Are Leon all that much. Not sure what the beef was mind you, because I'm not enough of a nerd to have read up on him yet.

>Lenin also argued positively for state capitalism in the earlier part of the USSR's existence.

I think Lenin was more towards that OG Marxist type of sentiment that communism has to come about as the inevitable end-point transformation of capitalism itself, or else it will fail. I tend to agree with that. The trouble with most communist countries throughout history is that they forced it in too soon, when those countries were barely industrialised before it.
>> No. 95207 Anonymous
11th January 2022
Tuesday 9:07 pm
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>>95206
Stalin believed in "socialism in one country": if you can achieve glorious communism in your own country, all the other countries will follow suit when they see how good it is, so you don't need to go interfering in their business until then.

Trotsky preferred "permanent revolution": seize every opportunity to bring every country closer to communism, so that they eventually all become communist around the same time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism_in_one_country
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permanent_revolution

So yes, Trotsky sounds like he had the potential to have been even more of a madman than Stalin was, crazy though that seems.
>> No. 95208 Anonymous
13th January 2022
Thursday 7:27 am
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>>95201

>it pivoted to state capitalism
>an extremely authoritarian capitalist state.
>China isn't communist. It is ex-communist.

State capitalism isn't a real thing though, it's a distraction. Capitalism is private ownership, communism is public ownership. State capitalism means the state (the public) in control of the capital. Essentially, when communism becomes authoritarian, call it 'state capitalism' so it doesn't look bad. As we did with that German politician from the 30s and 40s.

>>95196

The randy Scandi socialism thing is a bit of a myth, in part they're currently more free market than the USA. They did have a very socialist period in the 70s or 80s.

Some of these things are cultural and the overlap is weird. Sweden's response to COVID is more like that of a red-state, but people in Sweden are more compliant and trusting of their government as they're more collective culturally.
>> No. 95226 Anonymous
14th January 2022
Friday 6:41 pm
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Somewhat ironic that this article was posted on the same week that a consortium of doctors and academics decided to try to take down Joe Rogan.
>> No. 95227 Anonymous
14th January 2022
Friday 7:01 pm
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>>95208

>No no no, you see, words mean what they mean when I like what they mean, if nit then they don't.

Ah, well then that settles the issue.

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>> No. 84342 Anonymous
14th July 2018
Saturday 11:29 pm
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In a string of texts Griffiths called himself “Daddy”, promised money if he received racy images and described perverted and rough sex he claimed to have had with other women.

The shamed Tory wrote:

• “I’m going to need something filthy to put a smile on my face. I want to see you both naked.”

• “Take off the bra and panties… you’ve got Daddy in such a frenzy.”

• “I’m going to bring you to London and do whatever I want to you.”

• “I’m thinking maybe we need a flat for Daddy’s girls. I’m taken by you both. You girls are spectacular.”

Many more messages go into shocking detail about his liking for certain sexual acts and are too disgusting to print in full.


https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/married-tory-minister-andrew-griffiths-12919581
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>> No. 86736 Anonymous
10th September 2019
Tuesday 5:37 pm
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>>86735

It all reaks to me of someone trying to make a quick buck by selling out to the papers. They probably could have networked their way into something quite lucrative if they had keeped their mouth shut. Instead they've probably got themselves blacked balled from the biggest opportunity of their life and any others where discretion is expected, but they are probably too stupid to realise it.
>> No. 86748 Anonymous
10th September 2019
Tuesday 7:10 pm
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>>86736
Reeks, not reaks. Wreak is a word but not the same one.
>> No. 95020 Anonymous
10th December 2021
Friday 6:55 pm
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Ex-Tory minister Andrew Griffiths found to have raped wife

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-stoke-staffordshire-59611761
>> No. 95021 Anonymous
10th December 2021
Friday 7:47 pm
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>>95020
>Judge Williscroft made a number of findings of fact - on the balance of probability - about the way Mr Griffiths had treated Ms Griffiths. The judge said Ms Griffiths had "proved in her oral evidence to me" that Mr Griffiths "did rape her when sexual intercourse took place".
>Mr Griffiths said no assault had taken place but Judge Williscroft said she "preferred" Ms Griffiths's account.

I feel odd defending him as he's obviously a wrong'un but, you fucking what. So a family law judge can just label you a rapist on a he-said she-said with no criminal trial involved and then it can be plastered in all the bloody newspapers despite that being as good as guilty in everyone eyes.

Surely something is amiss with this.
>> No. 95022 Anonymous
10th December 2021
Friday 7:58 pm
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>>95021
Why would a woman who has been publicly humiliated by her ex-husband's indiscretions lie to a family court during a hearing to do with the custody of their children?

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>> No. 95013 Anonymous
8th December 2021
Wednesday 4:39 pm
95013 Olaf Scholz Sworn In as Chancellor
This man is now Chancellor of Germany, and there's no telling if it will be awesome.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/dec/08/olaf-scholz-elected-succeed-angela-merkel-german-chancellor
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>> No. 95014 Anonymous
8th December 2021
Wednesday 5:02 pm
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>>95013
It's Germany, "awesome" is outside their emotional range.
>> No. 95017 Anonymous
8th December 2021
Wednesday 5:45 pm
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>>95014

Scholz is from Hamburg, which makes him a German Northerner. They tend to keep to themselves more, and aren't known for emotional outbursts. Bavarians and Swabians down in the south are much more lively folk, by contrast.
>> No. 95018 Anonymous
8th December 2021
Wednesday 6:22 pm
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>>95017
Merkel was also a Northerner. Mecklenburg state, IIRC.

I've heard some funny stories about Swabians. The "sausage incident" at a Mercedes shareholder event was possibly the most Swabian thing to happen outside the area.
>> No. 95019 Anonymous
8th December 2021
Wednesday 7:35 pm
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>>95018

Merkel was also born in Hamburg, interestingly enough. Her father was a Protestant pastor who then emigrated to East Germany with the whole family in the 1950s. Which was a bit of an odd thing to do. Only a handful of West German citizens every year chose to move to communist East Germany. For obvious reasons.

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>> No. 94963 Anonymous
6th December 2021
Monday 8:14 am
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The criminal drug trade is run by dangerous people whose evil has no limits... I won't stand by while evil gangs exploit our children, writes Home Secretary PRITI PATEL

Today, the Government is publishing a ten-year drugs strategy. Our focus is on reducing crime, saving lives, and sending a clear message to the criminals – if you peddle these substances across our community, we will come after you with the full force of the law.

By breaking the cycle of crime, we will support treatment and recovery for drug addicts. We will work in schools on prevention to intervene early, and support young people and families who are vulnerable and in need of help. And, when drug misusers are sentenced, they will be referred into treatment, as will prisoners after their release.

As we work to cut and reduce the demand for drugs, we will impose tougher sanctions for those who break the law. This means tougher penalties for those so-called ‘recreational’ users, such as students who ignorantly take drugs with no thought to the criminality they are supporting and those they are exploiting. Their actions are directly leading to an increase in violent crime and people dying – but they pay no price.

That will change. We will bring down the harshest possible legal sanctions and consequences for these users, including criminal sanctions, fines, curfews, compulsory drug- awareness courses and the removal of their passports.

It is a fact that certain people are more likely to fall into the drugs trap than others. It is a sad truth that misuse is rife among those who are homeless, and it is also more frequent in northern cities, seaside towns and central London boroughs. It is in everyone’s interests that we beat the problem.


https://www.Please don't ban me.co.uk/debate/article-10278595/Home-Secretary-PRITI-PATEL-wont-stand-evil-criminal-drug-gangs-exploit-children.html

Hide your passports, lads. Priti is coming for them.
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>> No. 95009 Anonymous
8th December 2021
Wednesday 7:45 am
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>>95008
It's the will of the people.
>> No. 95010 Anonymous
8th December 2021
Wednesday 11:56 am
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>>95007
As the world's most naive man, I'm unreasonably confident that if people actually stopped and thought about the capital punishment, we could swing this.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I have a meeting with a solicitor regarding my purchase of London bridge.
>> No. 95011 Anonymous
8th December 2021
Wednesday 12:14 pm
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Considering how popular it is amongst Tory voters it's a surprise more of their MPs aren't explicitly in favour of it.

I bet if we started targeting the right backbenchers we could make some real traction with this.
>> No. 95015 Anonymous
8th December 2021
Wednesday 5:10 pm
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>>95012
.gs is not your personal army, teenlad.
>> No. 95016 Anonymous
8th December 2021
Wednesday 5:45 pm
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>>95012
One of our politest posters is a dog botherer furry, so no,I won't.

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>> No. 90534 Anonymous
28th September 2020
Monday 5:17 pm
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How the turntables.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-54329384
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>> No. 94943 Anonymous
25th October 2021
Monday 10:03 am
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>>94942

I don't really know how else to read this, honestly.

It seems more likely here that she's actually just gay, and The Metro have shockingly got that wrong and labelled her as bi. The tweet makes a thousand times more sense if she's a full lezzer.
>> No. 94944 Anonymous
25th October 2021
Monday 10:06 am
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>>94943>>94943

That makes sense. And I really can't be bothered to dig any further into the six-year-old drama over the sexuality of some-woman-who-was-on-bake-off-once.
Why are we talking about this? Don't answer that.
>> No. 94945 Anonymous
25th October 2021
Monday 10:29 am
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>>94944
>Don't answer that.
Soz. We can talk about Labour again now.
>> No. 94947 Anonymous
4th November 2021
Thursday 4:29 pm
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She's been handed a suspended sentence and she's likely to appeal so she can't be recalled yet.

https://news.sky.com/story/claudia-webbe-mp-handed-suspended-sentence-after-threatening-partners-female-friend-with-acid-12458966
>> No. 94948 Anonymous
4th November 2021
Thursday 4:46 pm
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>>94947
They're redoing the vote on Owen Paterson, so maybe they'll try it for Claudia Webbe as well. Although I can fully see the Conservatives voting to keep her in, just for the bants.

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>> No. 83551 Anonymous
5th October 2017
Thursday 9:16 pm
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>Sir Edward Heath 'would have been questioned' over abuse claims
>Sir Edward Heath would have been questioned over sex abuse claims if he was alive when they came to light, police have said. Wiltshire Police launched Operation Conifer in 2015 when the former PM was accused of historical child sex abuse.

>The Conservative politician would have been interviewed under caution over seven claims, including the alleged rape of an 11-year-old, they said. No inference of guilt should be drawn from this, police stressed. The allegations include one of rape of a male under 16, three of indecent assault on a male under 16, four of indecent assault on a male under 14, and two of indecent assault on a male over 16.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-41503143

How in Gods name is this still going on? Operation Conifer has so far burnt through £1.5 million without a shred of evidence and the press are still going along with it instead of calling for Mike Veale to be sacked and possibly tarred and feathered.

I seem to remember a mythical time when if someone talked about satanic rituals they would be laughed at.
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>> No. 83765 Anonymous
10th December 2017
Sunday 8:19 pm
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>>83764
Jesus christ is that a vogon?
>> No. 83766 Anonymous
10th December 2017
Sunday 8:34 pm
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>>83765
It would appear to be a bump to a two-month old thread. Which, I suppose, is on par with the poetry.
>> No. 94881 Anonymous
19th October 2021
Tuesday 9:11 pm
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It looks like this is the only thread you've ever had about allegations of MPs being kiddy-fiddlers. I guess that's fine, since all those allegations were proven to be absolutely, demonstrably false. BUT...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-58932593

>Police investigations into allegations of child abuse against a former MP were marred by "a series of failings", a report has found.
>The Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse (IICSA) said Leicestershire Police officers "shut down" investigations into Lord Janner "without pursuing all inquiries".

>Professor Alexis Jay, chairman of the inquiry, said police and prosecutors "appeared reluctant to fully investigate" claims against Lord Janner despite "numerous serious allegations".

>"On multiple occasions police put too little emphasis on looking for supporting evidence and shut down investigations without pursuing all outstanding inquiries," she said.

>"This inquiry has brought up themes we are now extremely familiar with, such as deference to powerful individuals, the barriers to reporting faced by children and the need for institutions to have clear policies and procedures setting out how to respond to allegations of child sexual abuse."

So even though the feds did describe that barmy guy's claims as "credible" when he said MPs were all evil sex-cult paedos, they didn't actually try very hard at all to investigate the claims. Again, it must be tough to be an MP. Everyone thinks you're a Satanic pederast and child-molester, simply because you have a job which would hypothetically allow you to be one with impunity and absolutely get away with it if you hypothetically decided to do such a thing. I wonder if this news will lead to more allegations against MPs who are still alive, or if everyone has just decided none of these things could ever possibly have happened.
>> No. 94882 Anonymous
19th October 2021
Tuesday 9:23 pm
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>>94881
Maybe we could start our own Satanic Panic/Qanon/Paedo Hysteria thing about the Tories.
>> No. 94883 Anonymous
19th October 2021
Tuesday 9:43 pm
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>>94882
I'm not really one for encouraging crazy people but I certainly wouldn't shed a tear for at least half the Tory MPs if someone merked them.

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>> No. 93958 Anonymous
16th June 2021
Wednesday 4:44 am
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>Tommy Robinson has been accused of misusing supporters’ money, as he declares himself bankrupt despite receiving hundreds of thousands of pounds in donations and funding, The Independent can reveal.

>The Independent has seen financial documents indicating the huge scale of funding given to Robinson since announcing “going independent” in 2018. In little over two months, he received almost £425,000 in donations from his supporters, documents suggest. He is also believed to have raised a significantly larger amount after being jailed for contempt of court in May 2018, though an American group called Middle East Forum said it had funded his defence.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/tommy-robinson-cocaine-donations-prison-b1787467.html

>“Tommy is a liar. The way he treated me, a lot of it, was just a front. It was an act to grow and make a lot of money. I thought he cared about saving Britain, saving young girls from being raped in Rotherham, but it was about making money."

https://www.joe.co.uk/politics/caolan-robertson-tommy-robinson-edl-byline-tv-266122

Do you believe most people in the public domain actually believe what they say or knowing spout bollocks and mislead people because it's very lucrative for them? It seems to happen right across the political spectrum.
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>> No. 94122 Anonymous
18th June 2021
Friday 6:28 pm
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>>94121
Because sometimes their leftiness angers me, so I assume it must be trolling. Surely people can't be that lefty.
>> No. 94123 Anonymous
18th June 2021
Friday 6:32 pm
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>>94122

Would you say you've been triggered?
>> No. 94124 Anonymous
18th June 2021
Friday 7:29 pm
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>>94122
There's no truth here, only fact.
>> No. 94126 Anonymous
18th June 2021
Friday 9:34 pm
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>>94123
Yes. I almost posted on /emo about it.
>> No. 94851 Anonymous
14th October 2021
Thursday 6:55 am
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>Tommy Robinson has been given a five-year stalking protection order after he shouted abuse outside the home of a journalist and threatened to repeatedly return to her address. The founder of the English Defence League, whose real name is Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, went to the property of the Independent’s home affairs correspondent Lizzie Dearden and her boyfriend, Samuel Partridge, in January of this year.

>The deputy chief magistrate Tan Ikram said Robinson’s behaviour “crossed the line between mere harassment and stalking” at a hearing on Wednesday. The court previously heard Robinson had hired a private investigator to find information out about Dearden after a request for comment she made, through his solicitors, on a story alleging that he misused money donated by his supporters. Ikram said that after obtaining Dearden’s address, Robinson had arrived around 10pm, calling for her to come to the door and shouting claims that Partridge was a paedophile.

>The magistrate “wholly rejected” that Robinson had attended the address to “exercise his right to reply” to the article, saying that he had been there to intimidate her and adding there was “not a shred of evidence” that the claims about Partridge were true. “The complainant refused to come out or engage with the defendant,” he said. The defendant reacted by saying that he would come back to her address ‘every night’. In my judgment, that crosses the line in this case between mere harassment and acts associated with stalking in that he threatened to repeatedly return to her home address. The defendant was arrested before he could carry out his threat. I find that the intention of the defendant turning up at a journalist’s house at past 10pm was clear: to intimidate her.”

>Ikram also rejected Robinson’s claim he had been “calm” throughout the incident, saying that it contradicted other undisputed witness accounts from neighbours.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/oct/13/tommy-robinson-gets-five-year-stalking-ban-after-harassing-journalist

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>> No. 94843 Anonymous
10th October 2021
Sunday 12:40 am
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Austria's Chancellor Sebastian Kurz has stepped down, after pressure triggered by a corruption scandal.

He has proposed Foreign Minister Alexander Schallenberg as his replacement.

Mr Kurz and nine others were placed under investigation after raids at a number of locations linked to his conservative ÖVP People's Party.

He denies claims he used government money to ensure positive coverage in a tabloid newspaper.

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>> No. 94826 Anonymous
4th October 2021
Monday 10:00 pm
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Five people have been arrested after former Tory party leader Sir Iain Duncan Smith was allegedly assaulted by being hit on the head with a traffic cone. The senior MP was pursued by chants of “Tory scum” on his way to a Brexit talk on the fringes of the Conservative Party conference in Manchester on Monday.

Sir Iain was walking to the Mercure Manchester Piccadilly Hotel where he was involved in a talk with Brexit minister Lord Frost. The Spectator magazine quoted Sir Iain as saying: “For half a second I was about to go up and punch them, I went forward and they all backed off – I nearly knocked them out, lost my rag. I can’t tell you very much other than they just followed us, used abusive language, attacked us and used a cone. They were shouting all along and then they smashed the cone on the back of my head and so I turned and grabbed the cone and looked at them and I took a pace towards them and they backed off. I threw the cone on the ground, said ‘pathetic’ and turned and walked off.”


https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/iain-duncan-smith-david-frost-brexit-conservative-party-gmp-b958755.html

This man is going to lose his rag, knock you the fuck out and it's going to be fucking awesome.
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>> No. 94829 Anonymous
4th October 2021
Monday 10:32 pm
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This never would've happened if they hadn't scrapped the cones hotline.
>> No. 94830 Anonymous
4th October 2021
Monday 11:08 pm
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Fair play to the Tory scum.
>> No. 94831 Anonymous
4th October 2021
Monday 11:58 pm
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Three words: small dick energy.

Four more: utterly microscopic dick energy.
>> No. 94833 Anonymous
5th October 2021
Tuesday 12:01 pm
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>>94831

Straight from rudgwicksteamshow.co.uk, I see.
>> No. 94834 Anonymous
5th October 2021
Tuesday 12:54 pm
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>>94831
ayy n1m8 ids wont no wot him im

I enjoyed his door being graffitied, that was nice.

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>> No. 94470 Anonymous
7th September 2021
Tuesday 8:02 pm
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This man isn't going to be the next Chancellor of Germany, and Election Day will be armageddon a bit shit for the Conservatives.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-58472507
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30th September 2021
Thursday 3:51 pm
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>>94733
If you know anything about flags, you can guess the Pan African colours of red/green/black, and then if you know anything about Kenya you'll remember it's got a big fuck off shield with white bits.

Personally I like it that the people naming these things are expecting a little bit of awareness from people.
>> No. 94775 Anonymous
30th September 2021
Thursday 7:30 pm
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>>94766

CDU/CSU + FDP for the Baden-Württemberg / Saxony-Anhalt fetishists.
>> No. 94776 Anonymous
30th September 2021
Thursday 7:51 pm
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>>94768

>Personally I like it that the people naming these things are expecting a little bit of awareness from people.

The woke lot would probably lose their shit here in Britain if we did a Tory, Lib Dem and Greens coalition government and called it Jamaica. Cultural appropriation, and that.

From my visits to Germany in the Before times, I can say that people are still a bit more carefree (ignorant?) and less steeped in wokeness than here in Britain. I wouldn't say you'll be shocked what still goes in Germany, but it's something you will definitely notice.
>> No. 94777 Anonymous
30th September 2021
Thursday 7:57 pm
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>>94776

>if we did a Tory, Lib Dem and Greens coalition government

EDIT: Of course that would be blue, yellow and green in our case, but you probably get my point. Ours would probably be called a Brazil or Rwanda coalition.
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30th September 2021
Thursday 8:49 pm
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>>94777
When you put it that way, we've previously had Nassau and Liechtenstein coalitions. Some people might think Ukraine, but they'd be wrong.

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>> No. 91877 Anonymous
27th December 2020
Sunday 6:56 pm
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>LIZ TRUSS: Equality should be for everyone - not just for the woke warrior's favoured few

>Growing up in Leeds in the 1980s and 1990s, I was struck by the lip service paid by politicians to equality while, in the real world, children from disadvantaged backgrounds were being let down. At my comprehensive school, we had lessons in racism and sexism, but there was too little effort ensuring everyone had a grasp of maths and English.

>Leeds City Council – run by Labour and where Jeremy Corbyn’s former campaign chief Jon Trickett cut his teeth as leader – opposed the introduction of school league tables and anything else that might help children from poor families do better in class. Leeds was not alone. Many other councils considered high standards in schools to be secondary to their political projects – or even worse, they treated such efforts to raise children’s horizons as elitist. And since then, I have witnessed the spread of misguided, wrong-headed, and ultimately destructive ideas, which, sadly, have become steadily more prevalent in many aspects of British life.

>Take, for example, Labour-run Birmingham City Council. It recently announced plans to give six new streets names such as Diversity Grove, Respect Way and Humanity Close. Do councillors really think that names alone pave the way to real change? Too many people have jumped on this woke bandwagon and lost sight of what most people want: a life in which they can live happily in a secure home, work in a good job and send their children to a decent school. Rather than engage with these priorities, the Left has been swept up by a warped ideology and all its bizarre obsessions. As a result, there is a misguided emphasis on policing our vocabulary so as not to offend, rather than policing our streets. And the woke brigade is angrier about the ‘sins’ of historical figures rather than trying to make a better life for those who live today.

>Their answers are to introduce quotas, diversity agendas and so-called ‘unconscious bias’ training. But these crudely treat people as part of groups rather than as individuals. What’s more, those who do not fit in their cultural box-ticking – for example the white working class – are, in effect, written off. And despite their stated intention to improve society, I am convinced that these dehumanising, disempowering and dysfunctional ideas do nothing in practice to make life fairer. Those behind this pernicious woke culture see everything in terms of societal power structures. To these zombies, truth and morality are merely relative.

>The great irony is that with this moral blindness, the Left has allowed insidious practices to threaten equality. For example, it has failed to defend the single-sex spaces that were won by the hard work of women over generations. It has allowed the spread of antisemitism. It has allowed the appalling grooming of young girls for sex by elder men in towns such as Rotherham. It is vital that things change. The way forward is to ignore the Left’s empty gesture politics and give people more control over their lives. Compared with very many other countries, we can be proud about how far society has developed. Britain is more colour-blind and less sexist than ever. That said, we cannot be complacent. Families, especially those living beyond the South East, face serious hardships. Equality should be for everyone, not just for those groups that the Left deems fashionably worthy of such attention.

>What we don’t need is the type of patronising feminism symbolised by Harriet Harman’s notorious ‘pink bus’, which was driven around the country during the 2015 General Election campaign. It often repelled the female voters it was meant to woo. Let us not listen to a party that claims to champion women but which has never elected a female leader. The reason the Tory Party has had two female leaders and now has the largest ever number of people from ethnic-minority backgrounds in Cabinet is not because of positive discrimination, but down to positive empowerment.

>This Government was elected to level up the country – to fix the scourge of geographic inequality and ensure equal opportunity for all. This will not be achieved through identity politics, virtue-signalling or any other kind of right-on posturing. It can only be done if politicians are in touch with the real issues people face in their daily lives. This is a task already under way in government. The Treasury has made it crystal clear that it will assess all future big spending projects in order to guarantee that Ministers spread investment across Britain as part of our policy to level up the whole country.
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>> No. 94567 Anonymous
16th September 2021
Thursday 1:56 pm
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Personally I'm very sanguine about noted rational person Dominic Raab being made Justice Minister a day after Borison Johnson proundly joked that the UK is becoming the "Saudi Arabia of penal policy", to an audience of Tory donors.
>> No. 94568 Anonymous
16th September 2021
Thursday 6:40 pm
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>>91877
The right has always strove to create caricatures of what a "leftist" is like and by and large it works.
There is a minority on the left who do stupid things and make stupid choices but the public has by and large been successfully convinced that these people are the mainstream left.
Liz complains that the left are crudely treating people as groups, doing so crudely treating the left as a group.
>> No. 94569 Anonymous
16th September 2021
Thursday 10:07 pm
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>>94564
>This happens repeatedly with anyone that tries to bring up the issue of class too close to the centers of power

ARE Liz done it in the OP.

>>94568
>There is a minority on the left who do stupid things and make stupid choices

I think you're being a bit disingenuous here. It's a sizeable minority at minimum within political parties (or embracing extremism) that you wouldn't want to be cornered in a pub by and when you have a minority of very determined people in power there's no limit to doing stupid things and making stupid choices.

Call it the decline of mass politics if you want. One that I think everyone accepts has been especially traumatic to the left following deindustrialisation.
>> No. 94573 Anonymous
17th September 2021
Friday 8:02 am
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>>94569
>ARE Liz done it in the OP.

She gets tantalisingly close, but carefully skirts the issue. If you pay attention, it's the same old social mobility rhetoric that doesn't recognise any real economic inequalities. Children from disadvantaged backgrounds were being let down, yes, but why? Generations of inequality exacerbated by neoliberal economics? Increasingly precarious work for their parents? Completely different league tables for schools? No, they were just focusing too much on racism and sexism, and didn't have enough lessons in maths and English.

She mentions geographic inequality, but what does that mean if you don't recognise some regions have less money than others? She explicitly says equal opportunity, rather than equality of outcome. She also makes the point to repeat the smear of antisemitism about the only recent version of the left to recognise class, Corbyn's Labour.

This is just posturing against the "woke" enemy that the right themselves have constructed, trying to assuage a working class with vague niceties and score a few points without actually mentioning anything concrete.
>> No. 94574 Anonymous
17th September 2021
Friday 8:06 am
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>>94569
>Call it the decline of mass politics if you want. One that I think everyone accepts has been especially traumatic to the left following deindustrialisation.

Sorry mate, but have you been asleep the past few decades? Deindustrialisation could have been handled multiple ways, but we chose to outdo Reagan on Reaganomics and utterly destroyed our trade unions. This has broken the back of the organisations which the left was centred around. It was a power grab for the right, a pattern that repeated itself throughout the 20th and 19th centuries as soon as "mass politics" threatened to gain any relevance at all.

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>> No. 90255 Anonymous
14th August 2020
Friday 3:38 pm
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This guy is a useless penis.

How the fuck does he survive in post?

Is it because he knows where all of Boris' bodies are buried?
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>> No. 94555 Anonymous
15th September 2021
Wednesday 1:55 pm
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>>90255
ABOUT FUCKING TIME
>> No. 94556 Anonymous
15th September 2021
Wednesday 2:08 pm
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Al Gore's office, circa 2006.
>> No. 94557 Anonymous
15th September 2021
Wednesday 2:20 pm
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>>94556
Oh thats incredible. A Mac Pro with 3x30" screens - I used to have exactly the same setup.
>> No. 94558 Anonymous
15th September 2021
Wednesday 3:15 pm
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>>94557
That must have cost forty billion pounds at the time.
>> No. 94559 Anonymous
15th September 2021
Wednesday 6:28 pm
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Good riddance to this utter fucking cunt. Not only is he a pillock, he's a class traitor. Despise this little creep.

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>> No. 94514 Anonymous
13th September 2021
Monday 6:55 pm
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This woman is going to stay PM of Norway tonight as part of a strong and stable government. It's going to stop me losing a significant amount of money on the Norwegian oil and gas industry.

>Norwegians will vote on Sept. 12-13 to pick a parliament and government for the next four years, with opinion polls showing the centre-left opposition is poised to win power after eight years of Conservative-led rule. Exit polls and forecasts based on early votes will be published on Monday at 1900 GMT, and most ballots will be counted within three to four hours.

>Petroleum policy presents perhaps the biggest challenge for the next prime minister, and the future of Norway's largest industry has been front and centre of the campaign. Citing concerns over climate change, several small parties - the Socialist Left, the Liberals, the Greens and the Reds - seek to halt oil and gas exploration, which brings in almost half the country's export revenues.

>On the right, the Conservatives are dependent on the eco-friendly Liberals, who aim to halt exploration for any new reserves. Solberg is unlikely to accept that goal if she wins, but must find ways to satisfy her party's junior partner. If Labour wins, it faces a similar demand from the Socialist Left to stop drilling for new reserves. But Stoere's own party is wary of the job losses that could follow, and its other likely partner, the Centre Party, favours continued drilling.

>The strongest anti-oil stance is taken by the Green Party, which wants to immediately halt exploration and to end all oil and gas output in Norway by 2035. Stoere says he will reject the Greens' attempt at setting ultimatums.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/whats-stake-norways-election-2021-09-12/

I'm holding you personally responsible for whatever happens, Ecolad.
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>> No. 94540 Anonymous
14th September 2021
Tuesday 5:11 pm
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Obviously compared to your average 12-year-old Afghan girl right now, I'm absolutely crushing it. But my life has taken a hopefully temporary turn for the /emo/ and I was comparing myself to how I assume most of you live.
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14th September 2021
Tuesday 5:16 pm
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>>94537
Look on the bright side, lad. When your posho parents snuff it you'll be rich.
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14th September 2021
Tuesday 5:37 pm
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>>94535
You're not doing well, lad. I wouldn't call myself as doing well because I went to public sector in London instead of earning 3-4x times the money in the private sector, but I still have about 30k net worth.

How did you manage to not save buckets of money when it was literally illegal to go outside?

>>94538
>the only extra requirement is sticktuitiveness.

I think this is something sorely underrated in our society. I wouldn't say I'm particularly bright, I'm just a weirdo who has a bit of self-discipline but that discipline has made a world of difference compared to my peers.
>> No. 94543 Anonymous
14th September 2021
Tuesday 6:17 pm
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>How did you manage to not save buckets of money when it was literally illegal to go outside?

I only landed this job in January, so virtually the entire 6k I mention has come from that.

Before that, I was buried in an overdraft and small loan taken to pay for paying for accommodation while studying for a postgraduate qualification in another country. Prior to that again, I was an NHSlad on a relatively mediocre payband, saving for the said move.

Basically, I've doubled down on my career and future earnings over current savings at every point of my young adult life, and I also didn't get any transfer of wealth from my parents (not implying you did, but it's a factor here). The result is that I've doubled my salary twice and have set myself up well for the future, but should probably stick around and just earn cash for the time being.
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14th September 2021
Tuesday 7:09 pm
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>How did you manage to not save buckets of money when it was literally illegal to go outside?

Big telly.

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7th September 2021
Tuesday 2:24 pm
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Boris Johnson outlines new 1.25% health and social care tax to pay for reforms

A new health and social care tax will be introduced across the UK to pay for reforms to the care sector and NHS funding in England, the PM has said.

Boris Johnson said it would raise £36bn for frontline services in the next three years and be the "biggest catch-up programme in the NHS' history". He accepted the tax broke a manifesto pledge, but said the "global pandemic was in no one's manifesto".

The tax will begin as a 1.25% rise in National Insurance (NI) from April 2022 paid by both employers and workers, and will then become a separate tax on earned income from 2023 - calculated in the same way as NI and appearing on an employee's payslip. Income from share dividends - earned by those who own shares in companies - will also see a 1.25% tax increase.

The UK-wide tax will be focused on funding health and social care in England, but Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland will receive an additional £2.2bn to spend on their services. Mr Johnson said the proceeds from these rises would lead to £12bn a year going into catching up on the backlog in the NHS created by Covid, increasing hospital capacity for nine million more appointments, scans and operations.

The money will also go towards changes to the social care system, where a cap will be introduced on care costs from October 2023 of £86,000 over a person's lifetime. All people with assets worth less than £20,000 will then have their care fully covered by the state, and those who have between £20,000 and £100,000 in assets will see their care costs subsidised.


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>> No. 94509 Anonymous
11th September 2021
Saturday 12:41 am
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I had Mrs Dickinson, similar height but solid features, bit of a hard Essex accent which was a turn on for us southern as fuck fairylads. There was an actually fit trainee teacher and I can't remember her name, so I don't know what to make of that.

When all's said an done, I'd probably be willing to go up to Joan Collins level of tarted up but saggy as owt. Nina Hartley will probably get me going for the next couple of decades. Is that bad?
>> No. 94510 Anonymous
11th September 2021
Saturday 3:42 pm
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Here we have it.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1015736/Build_Back_Better-_Our_Plan_for_Health_and_Social_Care.pdf

Only 'personal care' costs are capped, meaning the 'hotel style' costs are excluded from the cap.

This means it's likely only around £400 of the average weekly care costs of £680 would count towards the cap, so you are talking being in care for over four years before you'd reach the cap.

If you're self funding and paying £1,000 a week for care then it's still only the £400 a week or so local authority rate that counts towards the cap, meaning you'd actually pay over £200k before you reached it in four years.

The average person in care is there for 30 months, at a cost of around £82,000.

https://www.independentage.org/news-media/press-releases/cost-of-average-length-of-stay-a-residential-care-home-equivalent-to-26
>> No. 94511 Anonymous
11th September 2021
Saturday 4:45 pm
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>>94510
>The average person in care is there for 30 months, at a cost of around £82,000.

This has got to be the shittest bit of getting old.
>> No. 94512 Anonymous
11th September 2021
Saturday 4:46 pm
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>>94510
The purpose of this is to build on the fact that your live-in home doesn't count towards your assets - so presumably the 'hotel style' costs (which isn't referenced in the document?) don't apply for the target. It's for the care worker to pop in and do whatever that woman did who used to visit my nan (sponge baths? tea? etc.)

I could be wrong but I feel like you're reaching too much on this. What you need to do is plough for longer and deeper into how I pay enough tax.

>The average person in care is there for 30 months, at a cost of around £82,000.

I think that's the wrong way to look at it. The 'average person' likely won't need most medical treatment on offer but we still have an NHS paying for it. Go ahead, go into your nearest hospital and ask if you can play with the defibrillator - they told me to piss off. Fat chance I'll ever get a go on those new hospital beds I'm going to have to pay for while we're at it.
>> No. 94513 Anonymous
11th September 2021
Saturday 9:29 pm
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>>94512
>The purpose of this is to build on the fact that your live-in home doesn't count towards your assets - so presumably the 'hotel style' costs (which isn't referenced in the document?) don't apply for the target. It's for the care worker to pop in and do whatever that woman did who used to visit my nan (sponge baths? tea? etc.)

I think you've got the wrong end of the stick. People who are worried about having nothing to pass on to their kids because their wealth has been used to pay for care fees are those who have to go and live in a residential home, not those who can manage with domiciliary care that is partially met through attendance allowance.

Point 37a of the document states that the cap is on personal care costs and covered further in point 38.

From October 2023, the Government will introduce a new £86,000 cap on the amount
anyone in England will need to spend on their personal care over their lifetime. This
will be a seismic change in the way we pay for care and will deliver a core
recommendation of the independent Dilnot Commission. It will be implemented using
legislation already in place under the 2014 Care Act, which introduces the independent
Dilnot Commission’s social care charging reform. As a result of this new cap, people
will no longer face unpredictable or unlimited care costs.


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