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>> No. 84217 Anonymous
1st May 2018
Tuesday 5:24 pm
84217 Local Elections 2018
A vote for Labour is a vote for hepatitis.
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>> No. 84218 Anonymous
1st May 2018
Tuesday 5:30 pm
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>Conservatives
>Kamran Razzaq

Huh
>> No. 84219 Anonymous
1st May 2018
Tuesday 5:34 pm
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>>84217
First they take away our disability benefits, now those Tory cunts want to take away our hepatitis too.
>> No. 84220 Anonymous
1st May 2018
Tuesday 5:34 pm
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Jesus.
>> No. 84221 Anonymous
1st May 2018
Tuesday 5:45 pm
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>>84218
>VOTERS will no doubt be forgiven for feeling slightly confused at this year's local election in Wordsley where the Labour candidate is a former Tory and the Conservative hopeful previously jumped ship from the Labour Party!

>Labour's Kevin Billingham devoted 38 years to the Conservative Party before defecting in 2014 - while Tory candidate Kamran Razzaq was formerly a Labour supporter.

http://www.stourbridgenews.co.uk/news/14322321.Political_defectors_to_go_head_to_head_in_local_election_in_Wordsley/

That's from two years ago.

My experience of local councillors is that they'll wear whichever rosette they think gives them the best chance of getting elected or they'll have fallen out with other local members of the party.
>> No. 84222 Anonymous
1st May 2018
Tuesday 7:10 pm
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I knew sharing that needle with Wes Streeting was a mistake.
>> No. 84224 Anonymous
3rd May 2018
Thursday 5:56 pm
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Just voted and I was absolutely spoiled for choice.

• The Tory candidate - a former UKIP councillor who was sacked from his job for being racist.

• The Labour candidate - doesn't live in the area and has no local ties whatsoever. He has tried standing as an MP and councillor for Labour in various parts of the country so is clearly trying to use the position as a stepping stone. Also, the only part of the ward he's canvassed is the council estate.

• The Lib Dem candidate - used to be the Labour councillor until he fell out with the party. He tried standing as an independent last time around but didn't get anywhere so he's seeing if he has any luck with a yellow rosette.

I don't even have a Green or Yorkshire Party candidate to piss my vote away on.
>> No. 84225 Anonymous
3rd May 2018
Thursday 6:17 pm
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>>84224

I spoiled my ballot with a big cock and balls.
>> No. 84226 Anonymous
3rd May 2018
Thursday 6:49 pm
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>>84225
As always, if in doubt vote cock.
>> No. 84231 Anonymous
3rd May 2018
Thursday 9:41 pm
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>>84222
On the one hand, I understand your frustrations, and on the other, I'm like, you fucking stand if you think you could do a better job than the assorted racists and careerists. Standing in a local election is free and really not difficult at all.
>> No. 84232 Anonymous
3rd May 2018
Thursday 9:53 pm
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>>84231
Why would anyone in their right mind want to be a councillor? Only cunts want to be councillors.
>> No. 84233 Anonymous
3rd May 2018
Thursday 10:01 pm
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>>84231
The basic salary for a councillor is around £10-15k depending on where you are, and if you expect to keep your seat it'll have to be as good as a full-time job.
>> No. 84234 Anonymous
3rd May 2018
Thursday 11:49 pm
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The early results are in and the Tories are doing much better in the North East than I ever expected they would.
>> No. 84235 Anonymous
4th May 2018
Friday 12:00 am
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UKIP apparently taking a battering, just like last year.

Also, it could just be the small sample size at this early stage, but Labour have lost 8 seats to the Tories.
>> No. 84236 Anonymous
4th May 2018
Friday 4:31 am
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>>84232
If so then there shouldn't be any complaining there are only cunts on the ballot.
>> No. 84237 Anonymous
4th May 2018
Friday 6:50 am
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>>84224 here again.

The Tory racist won.
>> No. 84238 Anonymous
4th May 2018
Friday 7:16 am
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>>84235
>Also, it could just be the small sample size at this early stage, but Labour have lost 8 seats to the Tories.

I read an analysis which said, so far, there has been a swing to the Tories outside of London.
>> No. 84239 Anonymous
4th May 2018
Friday 10:34 am
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Have heard a rumour, which I can't confirm, that one fine young lady was elected as a Labour councillor and then immediately left the party group citing anti-Semitism.

Entirely possible this is just internet nonsense, but hilarious if true. Use the party machinery to get elected then give them a massive fuck you once you're over the line.
>> No. 84240 Anonymous
4th May 2018
Friday 3:02 pm
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So was this the most boring election of and kind ever?
>> No. 84241 Anonymous
4th May 2018
Friday 3:31 pm
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>>84240
Remember those PCC elections with 10% turnout and empty ballot boxes?
>> No. 84242 Anonymous
4th May 2018
Friday 3:37 pm
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>>84241
Not really, but Wikipedia says they happened so someone does. Just you, I suppose?

Although I would argue that the pathetic turnout and what the PCCs represent makes it more interesting than these local elections that changed basically nothing. Obviously you can read something into that too, but I pity the bods who stayed up all night for it.
>> No. 84243 Anonymous
4th May 2018
Friday 3:46 pm
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>>84242
We had a UKIP implosion and an actual LibDem surge. I wouldn't say that nothing changed.
>> No. 84244 Anonymous
4th May 2018
Friday 4:48 pm
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>>84243
We're back to a two-party system, which means that Labour supporters will be completely sufferable if you vote for anyone else.
>> No. 84245 Anonymous
4th May 2018
Friday 5:08 pm
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>>84217
Hepatitislad came second, behind Labour and ahead of the Green candidate.
>> No. 84246 Anonymous
4th May 2018
Friday 11:33 pm
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So despite Labour making gains, and the Conservatives making losses, Labour lost because they didn't win enough?
>> No. 84247 Anonymous
5th May 2018
Saturday 12:10 am
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>>84246
The Conservatives' net losses were 31. They lost 28 seats in Richmond alone and there's no Labour to be found there. Take the Liberal Democrats out of the equation and the Tories end up making more net gains than Labour. That's not supposed to happen to the government in an off year.
>> No. 84248 Anonymous
5th May 2018
Saturday 12:47 am
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>>84246

Yes. Historically, even weak opposition parties do well at local elections.

Blair won the biggest landslide in British electoral history at the 1997 general election. The Tories gained 256 councillors in 1998, 1,344 in 1999 and 256 in 2000. They took an absolute drubbing in the 2001 general election, gaining only one seat. The pattern of gains in the locals continued - 121 in 2001, 238 in 2002, 566 in 2003, 288 in 2004, followed by a marginally less humiliating defeat in the 2005 general election.

In the four locals Cameron fought as opposition leader, he gained a total of 1,748 councillors. In the two locals Blair fought before the 1997 landslide, he gained 2,275 councillors. Miliband gained 2,295 councillors over four years and still fucked it at the general election. Even Michael Foot managed a net gain of 755 across his three local elections.

Gaining 59 councillors and winning 35% of the popular vote is a dismal performance for an opposition leader by any standard. For a leader whose election strategy is based on grassroots campaigning on a local level, it's an abject failure.

I absolutely loathe the May government, which is why I'm all the more frustrated by the sad joke of an opposition that is Corbyn's Labour party. I cannot ever remember a more pitiful and ineffectual pair of party leaders. May is leading a fragmented party that is rife with infighting and scandal, but Corbyn still can't land a convincing blow at the polls. I barely have the will to be angry any more, I'm just desperately sad.
>> No. 84249 Anonymous
5th May 2018
Saturday 12:55 am
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>>84246
Yes, it was an extremely disappointing night for Labour.

I can see why a conceited Labourite would think that up = good and down = bad irrelevant of everything else, but to anyone with an ounce of sense they'd recognise that's simplistic nonsense.
>> No. 84250 Anonymous
5th May 2018
Saturday 10:14 am
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>>84248
>For a leader whose election strategy is based on grassroots campaigning on a local level, it's an abject failure.

If I remember correctly, Corbyn's schtick was that he wouldn't be able to woo many Tory voters but he'd be able to convert enough non-voters into Labour voters to outweigh this. The evidence clearly suggests this isn't happening.

The issue is Jeremy Corbyn. His policies are actually popular, but people simply won't vote for him. He's Marmite and last year's result was the high watermark. He won't get a better opportunity than Theresa May running an utterly disastrous election campaign and he couldn't do it even when he resorted to offering people loads of free shit. He has too much baggage. He's too much of a ditherer. There are too many reasons people will never vote for him, too many red lines crossed.

If Labour want to be in power than they need to get rid of Jeremy Corbyn and replace him with someone with broader appeal.
>> No. 84251 Anonymous
5th May 2018
Saturday 1:45 pm
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>>84250

>If I remember correctly, Corbyn's schtick was that he wouldn't be able to woo many Tory voters but he'd be able to convert enough non-voters into Labour voters to outweigh this. The evidence clearly suggests this isn't happening.

That was part of the strategy. It's clearly a bad idea, because you have to convince twice as many people. Persuading a Tory voter to switch gains you one vote and costs your opponent one vote; mobilising a non-voter only gains you one vote.

Another key claim was "the media is biased against Jeremy, but that doesn't matter because we've got hundreds of thousands of members and can mobilise a huge grassroots campaign". If that strategy is going to work, it should work best at the local elections, which are most acutely about local people, local issues and local campaigning. It clearly hasn't worked - Jezza has made a net loss of 323 councillors over three local elections.

Corbyn has clearly demonstrated that he's unable to direct a campaign or shape the political conversation. Any hope he might have of winning a general election is based on nothing more than wishful thinking. If Labour can't reform their selection process and appoint a leader that can actually lead, then I think we're in a hopeless position. A lot of people are talking about a new centrist party, but there's just too much inertia in a FPTP system.
>> No. 84253 Anonymous
5th May 2018
Saturday 3:02 pm
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>>84251
>the media is biased against Jeremy, but that doesn't matter because we've got hundreds of thousands of members and can mobilise a huge grassroots campaign

The Owen Jones effect.

Owen Jones visited Kensington
Tory HOLD

Owen Jones visited Westminster
Tory HOLD

Owen Jones visited Wandsworth
Tory HOLD

Owen Jones visited Barnet
Tory GAIN

Owen Jones did not visit Plymouth
Labour GAIN

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/05/local-election-analysis-owen-joness-success-rate/
>> No. 84254 Anonymous
5th May 2018
Saturday 3:20 pm
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>>84250
>If I remember correctly, Corbyn's schtick was that he wouldn't be able to woo many Tory voters but he'd be able to convert enough non-voters into Labour voters to outweigh this. The evidence clearly suggests this isn't happening.

This is impossible. He needs to win Conservative votes.
>> No. 84258 Anonymous
5th May 2018
Saturday 5:20 pm
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>>84254
Corbyn doesn't want the support of people who've previously voted Tory; they're not pure enough for him.
>> No. 84259 Anonymous
5th May 2018
Saturday 5:38 pm
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>>84254
Quite. They can be happy with their performance in the big smoke, but ultimately they're not going to win a general election by running up the score in London.
>> No. 84260 Anonymous
5th May 2018
Saturday 6:10 pm
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>>84258
Stop this terrible meme right now.
>> No. 84261 Anonymous
5th May 2018
Saturday 6:17 pm
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>>84260
How's it a meme? Corbyn's made it quite clear he won't compromise slightly on his ideological principles and that he has no interest whatsoever in trying to court so-called centrists as he believes non-voters are an untapped mine full of Trots. You've even got young Trots like Laura Pidcock saying she could never be friends with a Tory.
>> No. 84263 Anonymous
5th May 2018
Saturday 8:10 pm
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>>84261

That's not the same as viewing Tory voters as some kind of political untermensch, he just believes he's correct and that compromising would endanger the policies he feels are too beneficial for the country to lose. Laura Piddock made those comments about Tory MPs, not Tory voters, which is fair enough given the distain for the people of this nation that runs through every Conservatve policy like a great, stinky, skid-mark. Also you've started saying "Trots" which means I remember you from when you were throwing embarrassing fits and calling him "Dear Leader", like it was the only non-thinning joke in existence, as such I'm going stop before you give me a headache.
>> No. 84264 Anonymous
5th May 2018
Saturday 8:57 pm
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>>84263
>he just believes he's correct and that compromising would endanger the policies he feels are too beneficial for the country to lose

I suppose it's a moot point really as he's never going to be in power. It's less the policies people take umbrage with and more Corbyn himself that too many people find off-putting.
>> No. 84265 Anonymous
5th May 2018
Saturday 10:27 pm
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>>84264
>It's less the policies people take umbrage with and more Corbyn himself that too many people find off-putting.
They said the same about Thatcher.
>> No. 84266 Anonymous
5th May 2018
Saturday 11:17 pm
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>>84265
Thatcher had vote-splitting in the opposition to keep her in.

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