Barbara Webster, prosecuting, said: “He did not like performing the act and said sorry to the chickens after.”

The court heard a total of 15 chickens died as a result of Waters’ abuse.

He also admitted having intercourse with his pet dog over a four month period, but said the dog "did not like it and growled and bit him".


https://www.lancs.live/news/lancashire-news/farmyard-attacker-jailed-after-having-19316783

Some choice quotes in this story. I tried not to laugh but.

>A police officer who scanned a seven pence barcode for carrots instead of the £9.95 barcode for Krispy Kreme donuts that he was buying for colleagues has said it was an honest mistake.

>Pc Simon Read told a misconduct hearing that he did not realise he scanned the carrot barcode twice at the self-service tills at a Tesco Extra in Wisbech, Cambridgeshire, on February 10 this year. He accepted that he failed to scan the barcode for the box of 12 donuts while purchasing four items at around 11.30am – the donuts, carrots, a sandwich and a drink – but said this was not done on purpose.

>The Cambridgeshire Police officer, who joined the force in January of this year, said he was buying the sweet treats for colleagues as a “cake fine”. Pc Read said he was buying the carrots for his sergeant who was on a diet, and he thought it “would be funny” for them to be in a Krispy Kreme paper bag. He said he stuck the carrots barcode onto the donut tray, as it would have spoiled the joke if he stuck it on the paper bag.

https://www.expressandstar.com/news/uk-news/2020/11/25/police-officer-says-scanning-carrot-barcode-instead-of-donuts-honest-mistake/

>>28940

Broken Britain.

>>28940

Throw the fucking book at him. The little laminated one they have by the till for scanning bakery items.

>>28940

I feel police behaving badly warrants a higher level of deserved attention than the usual local news bollocks, this story is too good for this thread.

>>67530

Appropriate for Labour then.

>>67530
Uncanny.

Would still make the sex to and/or with both of them.

They've cancelled some of her fines. The magna carta works!

https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/local-news/kirklees-council-u-turn-plan-19345674

>>67536

How much does a hairdresser's make? I imagine it's a fair bit as they all seem to charge £40+ per haircut. I suppose she must have enough overhead to actually pay the 17k and this is an elaborate marketing scheme, otherwise her business partners/employees/parents/friends would have rugby tackled her to the ground and stuck a sock in her mouth by now.

>>13965
Only ypipo can be racist.

https://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/stories/2020-11-25/cargill-the-company-feeding-the-world-by-helping-destroy-the-planet
Here's an article about McDonald's chicken that actually matters.

>>13965
It's because we're racist and dismiss their complaints as whining. There is a deep culture surrounding pasta in Italy. There are rules about which shapes go with which sauces and which ingredients. Spaghetti bolognese particularly annoys them, because what's usually served up is napolitana, and neither are supposed to go with spaghetti.

>>13965

>Nobody's ever gotten in trouble for making a carbonara while being English

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/newsbeat-55086977
Another article about fast food chicken but it doesn't mention idpol so it's not funny to argue about.

>>12595
>Alexa
You would let Ronald McDonald rape your family and your only intervention would be to Instagram it.

>>12600

I think people just need to stop lying to themselves about perceived levels of privacy.

>>12601
It might help if companies stopped lying to everyone else about the supposed need for, or even the very fact of, data harvesting.

>>12602
Hush now and let me install this smart meter.

>>12599

I'm not saying there's anything inherently wrong with using algorithms to discover stuff, but I want to highlight how important it is to be aware that algorithms aren't perfect, or even necessarily better than browsing a curated selection like a music shop, or even discovering stuff through local scenes.

No library of music is perfect, and algorithms are designed with specific purposes in mind. I think people should use it with awareness of it's limitations.

*clutches
I'm going to bed.

>>24577
>I guess that's what you get at this price point

Exactly - and it this price point, any wheel is better than using none. I think you have to start getting into the £500++ level before you start to get things that actually feel like a proper car, these are just miles and miles better than using a joystick. I haven't seen a single gearstick anywhere on any simulator that looks or feels like those in a car, so flappy paddles it is.

I didn't go to bed I ordered a "Used - Very Good" T150 from Amazon for £86. It was listed as £120, but at checkout, which I was only looking at to see when the delivery would be, it had a £34 "warehouse discount", which I never knew was a thing because I only use it to watch films really. There was another one left if anyone's interested/their inhibitions are lowered because it's late.

>>24576

Also, if you do have a Costco membership, you can get a tenner off any online order over £100 with the code DEALS10.

My T150 arrived! The previous owner had managed to half demolish the USB connector in such a way that it was too squished together to fit in a socket, but after some prying it just about squeezes its way in. I really don't know how they did that, I don't think I've ever seen someone do that before. All in all though while it's clear I can't drive and my desk is being shaken apart by the minute, I am enjoying it. I think I'll hold off jumping into a public ACC lobby until I can reliably take T1 at... well anywhere. Also the USB is running through the connector on my Logitech keyboard, because it's the most solid one around and it didn't feel at all good jamming it in and yanking it out of my mobo ports, anyway I just like that chimeric combo of brands and hardware so I thought I'd mention it. The force feedback is also highlighting what a thin-wristed little wimp I am.

>>13924

Doesn't it depend if you're referencing the province, or the food? And I think at one point he was saying sichuan, not sechsezswean which I can't spell, apparently.

I've no idea but he was very try-hard about the language I feel. You always get that with these travel vlog types. Half of the food looked disgusting and he was just showing off. Only that first noodle dish looked genuinely appetising instead of some weird "look how worldly I am, I'll eat intestines that still taste of shit" flex. Prick.

>>13925
>I've no idea but he was very try-hard about the language I feel

Well, he has lived in China for seven years, so I'm not surprised he speaks the language somewhat.

>>13926

But he speaks it in the same way Hyacinth Bucket speaks french.

Finely shred and boil a head cabbage, leave to drain.

In a separate pan, fry a large diced onion, 3 large cloves of diced garlic, and 6 rashers of smoked bacon in plenty of butter until the bacon's crispy.

Add 1 teaspoon each of rosemary, thyme and oregano to the bacon and onion, stir well.

Introduce the drained cabbage to the bacon and onion, keep stirring and frying until the cabbage starts to change colour and is well mixed with the other ingredients.

Place in an oven dish, top with a creamy cheese sauce with a hint of dijon mustard (don't mix, just a decent layer), then proceed with how you would make a potato gratin.

You can deglaze the pan with a sweet white wine to add to the cabbage mixture before introducing the sauce and/or swap the trio of herbs for a shredded fennel, which is fried alongside the bacon, onions and garlic at that stage, and 1 tablespoon of tarragon.

>>28936

>There's no such thing as "routine brain surgery"

"Routine" from the perspective of doctors, obviously. If brain surgery is all you do, then fiddling around inside a person's brain is presumably just another day's work.

>>28935
How do you find obscure-as-fuck stuff like this? It has 30 views.

>>28942
He uploaded it.

>>28942

Sort by upload date or filter by date. Also:

https://millionshort.com/

>>28944
I searched for "britfa.gs" on that site and this was the second result:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-50545658

Doesn't seem very accurate

>>440326
Povvo.

>>440327
You've got to build up your resilience levels.

>>440327
"sneed"

(A good day to you Sir!)

>>440318

I've never understood people who will opt to vomit into a sink, over the toilet, that is the real mental povvo in our society.

>>440331
Sometimes the toilet's too far away, as I found out when I had norovirus. After the first bout, I don't think I left the area of the bathroom for the next 3 days.

>>13637
Absolutely, but conversely it's pretty pants as a method of authenticating to a bunch of completely unconnected websites. I see the appeal to end users; everyone's logged into their primary gmail all the time anyway why bother remembering passwords when you can just click "continue with Google" and the job's a good 'un? The problems, of course, come when you lose access to that google/facebook/twitter account (or whoever else is providing OAUTH services now) and suddenly you're locked out of a whole range of stuff.

Then again we face a similar problem with sites that use your email address as either a login ID or as a password reset mechanism; a decent authentication system should provide you with multiple methods of access including [login,email],pass [login,email], Authenticator app token, and [login,email], Yubikey (or similar).

Ideally I'd like to see email addresses (and, god help us, mobile phones) removed entirely from authentication systems but it'll never happen as the average user doesn't want to install KeePassXC, buy a YubiKey, and install an authenticator app on their phone.

Big, fat, smelly Whinge well and truly ticked not just for the whinge itself but because this isn't even /g/.

Firstly thanks for all the OpSec advice. I don't think this is a practice I'll be engaging in again.



>>13622

>Get ahold of your attitude OP. Start taking responcibility for your mistakes, stop stiring shit. Most certainly your boss is a cunt - that's none of your business and doesn't excuse your behaviour.

That you boss? Anyway, absolutely my fault, it was both poor form and poor OpSec. I've acknowledged that in the post. Though as regards poor form, my only regret is that I didn't get to package it all up with a focus on the real tangible issues that he (you) could learn from and fix. I said, and meant, everything I said.

>With this account to go on, it sounds like you're the kind of workplace bully with an infectious negative attitude that draws others into poor worldviews and practices. You seem overly concerned with contending social status' of and with work colleagues.

My mentor had been sexually harassed for a decade by one of the partners. That's not really conducive to the morale. The first day I worked, my colleague went over to the window at lunch and visibly relaxed when he saw the boss walking off. The partners were mocked roundly by everyone, it was really a horrible place and I certainly acted out because of it, I wasn't alone. I'll not shirk my share of the responsibility, but they should take theirs.

>I imagine the smiles you get from these workplace 'friends' are really false camaraderie, self-defence and influence mitigation - they'd rather be away of your crosshair than under it, at the less severe cost of their wellbeing.

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>>13643
You been searching for jobs then I take it?

>>13643
On the upside, when the question comes up at interview "why did you leave your last job?" you can answer "my boss was a sex pest and he fired me for helping his victims speak up".

>>13645
Troublemaking little upstart trying to speak truth to power? Instant reject. Such is the way of human resources.

My mate with ADHD says I'm the clearest cut case he's ever seen for an undiagnosed adult. We'll be talking on Discord and I'll be replying "uh huh, yip." and he'll prompt me on if I had done whatever I'd paused the game to do and I'll come out with something like "Sorry, I was watching a documentary on Ant colonies on YT, give me a second"

He says he knows when I've "slipped away" by the tone of my replies. He takes ritalin and he does forget to eat quite a lot.

OP here, I'll ring the GP tomorrow. I don't think I'll go all in on attempting to blag a diagnosis for ADHD, even though the idea of forgetting to eat does sound quite nice.

Again, I could just be thick, but day in, day out I have all these thoughts shooting around inside my head and I just end up distracted. Whether I distract myself purposefully or I just end up slip-sliding from one idea to another it's all the same outcome. I've tried "unplugging" before and it doesn't really help. I can quite readily lie in bed looking out of the window with just my own brain for company and only get up when the shame of it becomes too much or a parcel needs signing for. I hope none of this sounds like I'm trying to paint myself as some kind of frustrated genius, because many of these thoughts are "what basic admin needs doing?" and "what should I have for lunch?". I just want to get up in the morning and do what I need to do.

>>30209
>I don't think I'll go all in on attempting to blag a diagnosis for ADHD
> I have all these thoughts shooting around inside my head and I just end up distracted. Whether I distract myself purposefully or I just end up slip-sliding from one idea to another it's all the same outcome.
It's not blagging if you have the condition m8

>>30206

In my experience that applies to Concerta, but not Xenidate. There's no "high" with the latter, and never any feeling to up the dose with either during 8 years of use.

I have a diagnosis of ADHD - "swirling malestrom" sounds very familiar. I'm not sure why your GP would be eager to steer you down a depression treatment pathway. My GP gave me a 60-second questionnaire to fill out, I handed it back, he said "well you dont have depression" and that was that.

The prescribed medication doesn't work for me - I tried Concerta, Ritalin, and Strattera, but for some reason the only noticeable effect was killing my erections.

>>91742
Now you can get tranny action on the web: http://websdr.ewi.utwente.nl:8901/

>>91741
>Cutting down those trees is carbon-negative, because they're being replaced with a far greater number of faster-growing trees that sequester more carbon. Even if we weren't building a big electrically-powered railway that will prevent millions of tonnes of CO2 emissions, cutting down those trees and replacing them is good for the climate.
Are you lying or just thick? Those trees won't sequester anything like that much carbon in time, particularly if they just die and get replaced every year because that's cheaper than watering -
https://www.independent.co.uk/environment/hs2-trees-dead-drought-water-woodland-environment-a8925501.html
although at the time of writing they haven't actually even been replaced. Not to mention the equal threat of biodiversity loss which just planting a load of saplings can't replace.
Nothing else in your post warrants a response.

>>91746

“The summer of 2018 was the hottest on record in England, with an average of just 35.4mm of rain falling in June, half the usual amount.

“We estimate it would have cost around £2m to water the trees during the drought, so replacing these plants is a much more cost-effective solution, as well as a more ethical use of resources during unprecedented conditions at the height of summer.”

Jog on m8.

>>91746
Biodiversity? In England? Didn't the sheep-farmers kill everything already? England is just a massive park.

>>91747
Weird, almost as though what they're doing doesn't work.

>>67514

We're both citing the same study.

>>67516
But which one is correct? There's only one way to find out...

>>67516
The one in >>67488 is a lot older.

>>67518
Why has soldiers going mental gone up in six years when we haven't even done a war in this time? Do we need to keep blowing up brown people to keep them sane?

>>67519
>Do we need to keep blowing up brown people to keep them sane?
U DONT SUPPORT ARE TROOPS IF YOU DONT SUPPORT BOMBING BROWN PEOPLE. SIMPLE AS!

>>41743

Can you really call yourself a "thinking man" if you watch the news on CBBC?

>>41744

How else would you know wot the yoof are thinking? By hanging around them like Adam Buxton?

>>41744
I was young and she's still fit and presumably quite clever.

This is weird.

https://twitter.com/ellie_crisell

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0ehzkevyPs

I think it depends on the vagina. The same way not ever pair of breast or legs turns me on. In general I am about the total composition. Face i think over rides all other body traits for me. It is the window of emotional expression and personality and those are stronger factors than how a vagina looks.

I don't think I would ever see a vagina and think wow look at that vagina I want her. But then social rules are set up in a way that that doesn't happen maybe there is a woman out there with a perfect one that I would fall in love with just by the look of it I don't know..

>>67502
>because they'd keep bringing it up unprompted
That's unfair, I've rarely seen that. Lassmates who lurk here seem content to lurk here.

>>67505
We're talking years and years ago here. I have trouble distinguishing between what was posted here 10 years ago and what was posted 10 weeks ago. It might have been why they created /bint/, who knows? My find is too fuzzy to remember.

Oh and there was also that fat lass that pissed in a shower on pictures of Are Si but that might have been Britchan.

>>67507

That was here but I am 90% certain it was something posted by her dom and she had no idea what any of this was. Assuming my guess work of who posted it is correct.

My favourite canned fish is the smoked sprats they sell in Eastern Euro skleps.

I wish you could find them in regular supermarkets.

>>13941
>>13942
So I just pour the can out on some toast and then put it under a grill? I'm having misgivings given the sauce, surely it goes in a pot and is heated?

>>13942
>>13944
How do I avoid it stinking up to the house when I cook or do I just bake everything in bags and oiled paper?

>>13947
Tuna is pricey and the canning process breaks down the omega-3.

>>13950
I'm not sure how I'd feel about eating fish regularly caught from the Baltic. Isn't it still horribly polluted?

>>13951

If your fish stinks up the house, you have bought bad fish.

I just put cold mackerel on hot toast, I do not have the time nor inclination to do otherwise. There's not enough sauce in one of those tins to justify using a pan, just stick it under the grill if you must.

>>13951

The kippers I like come in oil, you obviously shake the oil off a bit or drain the liquid from the can before you put them on your toast. If you've got the ones that come in tomato sauce I don't know what to tell you, it's never occurred to me that anyone buys them. I thought they were just filler they use to pad out the shelves.

Presumably just whack the can in some hot water for a bit so they're already warm when you open them?

>>13942

The same company that does those cream sauce herrings also have their take on the matjes herring, albeit very salty, and my goodness do they taste like prepared, salted anchovies. You can cook with them the same way, they just need chopping up a bit, and are far more cost effective if that's any concern.

Anchovies as bought at a deli counter in oil w/ flavouring like dill and lemon are delicious though and a completely different experience to the salted, tinned ones.

>>67392
Lol they're interdimensional beings made of energy traveling in intelligent plasma ships, you absolute rub. Miss me with this hybrid shit.

>>67393
Lol no, they're definitely hybrid with brand loyalty.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaYfsxbiKsM

>>67409
Is that Michael Gove? He looks different without his glasses.

Have cheeky eskimos given up? It seems like they can't be arsed trying to blow people up or run them over in a lorry anymore.

>>26435

Temporary ceasefire due to corona. Not even joking.

>>26434

It's funny when someone is too stupid to even realise that they're being mocked. Are you actually Shamima by any chance?

>>26435

There are no public gatherings, limited crowds in cities and shopping centres, and low passenger loads on public transport. Fewer travellers through airports make it even harder to hide in plain sight than it already was, it's just not worth the effort right now.

>Shamima Begum, who left Britain as a schoolgirl to join Islamic State in Syria, remains a serious threat to national security and should be deprived of her UK citizenship, the supreme court has been told.

>Extracts of MI5 assessments of the dangers posed by the return of those who joined Isis were read out at the start of a two-day hearing challenging the decision to revoke Begum’s citizenship and refuse her leave to enter the UK.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/nov/23/shamima-begum-still-national-security-threat-supreme-court

>>67457
>SHE ALREADY MENTIONED THAT SHE HOPES I DON'T REACT LIKE THAT AT SEEING CLITORIS IN REAL LIFE

If you're more of a bumder encourage her to visit r/GrowYourClit. The bigger the clit, the more it's like a dick.

>>67465
>R/GROWYOURCLIT
Good god.

>>67466
Why grow your clitoris?

[/I]Two reasons seem to be of greatest interest: to make it easier to find by the owner or partner and to make it easier to stimulate. Some want to orgasm quicker, some want stronger orgasms, and a few just want to be able to orgasm. Finding that tiny sensitive organ can be a serious matter because about half range from rice grain to small pea size – most of the remainder are no larger than a corn kernel (about ¼ inch). Many women have never seen their clits because they are simply too small and buried under or in other tissue – another reason to enlarge your clit. A few want a “mini-penis” that can be stroked similarly to an intact penis. The good news is you can grow a much larger clitoris and you can do it reasonably quickly.[/I]

>>67457
Yes, that's probably it. I'm in my late 20s but If I shave clean I'll get ID'd for energy drinks.

>>67468
Weird to read this after all the discussion on clits. Was thinking you have to present your vag at the bar.

>>30189
> Then again I consider casual sex unfulfilling and recognize that "catching feelings" is a universal recipe for chaos whenever one-side is getting more action. I'm sure you'd feel mighty funny if you're Mrs brought home the Uzbekistan football team.

For what it's worth I'm not the lad suggesting an open relationship as a solution in this thread, I'm merely questioning your, what to me seems like, naivety about people in general.

Coming at my question in >>30188 purely from the perspective of a single person I consider it incredibly naive to assume that anyone that is having casual sex with you isn't also having casual sex with other people (and I also don't see how, unless you don't have sex until after the 10th date and you've met her parents, you can consider the first few times you have sex with someone to be anything other than casual).

In my experience sex comes first, and if you keep on seeing each other you eventually have to make a decision if you're exclusive / moving towards an exclusive relationship or not. The question of "are you seeing anyone else" will inevitably come from one party or the other within a few weeks of seeing each other regularly and that's generally the sign that that party is starting to like you for reasons beyond looks/physicality/sex.

With all that said, however, I often find myself lamenting on this site that I might simply have spent my life around very much the wrong kind of person and/or on the wrong side of many a track.

Such is life. Sage.

>>30190
There's a difference between casual sex and seeing someone but you won't spell out seeing someone until your months into it. My experience is you will either go on a few dates before sex or be exclusively "casual" for about 5 minutes before its implied that you're seeing each other. I don't know how you could be missing the seeing phase unless you're jumping into things.

I'm a good boy who buys a lass flowers a couple weeks into it though, so by accident I've probably been making clear my intentions.

>With all that said, however, I often find myself lamenting on this site that I might simply have spent my life around very much the wrong kind of person and/or on the wrong side of many a track.

For my part I seem to exclusively shag professional women who make more than me so we're probably different types. I'm Posh Spice to your Ginger.

>>30190
>The question of "are you seeing anyone else" will inevitably come from one party or the other within a few weeks of seeing each other

Um, lad - that should be on the first couple of dates/hours, not weeks; depends how old you are I guess. If you're in your thirties, probably whether they want to get married, have kids, or not, all that stuff is fair game.

>>30192

It's one of those things where I feel like it's rude to ask directly, but you're definitely expected to interrogate each other as to what your "situation" is by the first date. Do you live alone, with a house share, at home, are you recently separated or long term single, shagging around or just testing the waters, and so on. Or, if you're on the apps, you're meant to do it in the fortnight of idle banter and the the first physical date is just to double check in-person compatibility.

I know a couple of lasses who are perennially single and I keep trying to tell them, it's more than likely because they just won't fucking sleep with a bloke until they're convinced it's a long term thing. I can't explain enough that good sex is a requirement on any right thinking bloke's checklist, and if he has to commit before he even finds out if you're a cowgirl or a dead fish, he's going to look elsewhere.

They say men are clueless but honestly some of my female friends are the most autistic motherfuckers I know when it comes to navigating those stages between single and long term couple.

>>30191
> There's a difference between casual sex and seeing someone but you won't spell out seeing someone until your months into it. My experience is you will either go on a few dates before sex or be exclusively "casual" for about 5 minutes before its implied that you're seeing each other. I don't know how you could be missing the seeing phase unless you're jumping into things.

If I've not had sex by the end of date 3 I give things up as a lost cause. I usually expect to be up to my nuts in guts within about 4-5 hours of actually meeting a girl physically for the first time. That probably is considered "jumping in" but even in the times where's I've struck out and not hit the bedroom by the end of date three I've never actually had the "are you having sex with / seeing anyone else" talk with anyone. That conversation tends to only come up after a few weeks of regularly seeing someone.

Maybe it's implied that if you're on a date then you're 100% fucking single and celibate and I'm just that unlucky cunt who got burned by a bunch of manipulative bitches and now I'm all bitter and assume that everyone's sucking 37 dicks in every given week. In a row? .

> There's a difference between casual sex and seeing someone but you won't spell out seeing someone until your months into it.

I'm probably being autistic now, but do you, at some point, just stop responding to the 2am texts from the girls in your Little Black Book and slowly morph into monogamy? Is there a certain point where you feel like "this is becoming a relationship" and decide to set your Relationship Status on Facebook. Is it the fact that I don't use face book and don't have a public Relationship Status to set that's causing me all this grief? Christ, if that's the case I really am doomed.

>>30193
> I know a couple of lasses who are perennially single and I keep trying to tell them, it's more than likely because they just won't fucking sleep with a bloke until they're convinced it's a long term thing. I can't explain enough that good sex is a requirement on any right thinking bloke's checklist, and if he has to commit before he even finds out if you're a cowgirl or a dead fish, he's going to look elsewhere.

I've had to tell lasses this myself. She said she wouldn't have sex with a guy until she was in a long term relationship with and I had to tell her that no bloke is going to get into a long term relationship unless they've had sex with her and know they're compatible. That said, I've known this lass shag a bloke she'd barely met just because she was on holiday and knew she'd never see him again and there were no expectations, so it's double standards in any case.

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>>439585

There's a lot that could be said here. In general I don't measure a large group of people, or an organisation of some kind, by the worst representation of the group. I'm aware that the first things that pop into the mind of many secularists when they hear the word Catholic, is financial corruption, and child rape, but It's not really something that I think about or have experienced. I've been a member of a handful of churches throughout my life, and it just hasn't been relevant to me or anyone I know for that matter.

When I hear and read about these crimes, it disgusts me, the same way I felt disgusted to find out about how China's Xi Jinping has overseen the authoritarian takeover of Hong Kong's laws, and the enslavement of over one million Uyghurs. There's nothing I can really do about these large structures tilting into corruption though, except talking honestly about them when people ask me, and being careful about where I distribute my finances. I haven't given money to the Catholic church for a long time, aside from donating to the soup kitchen, the food bank, and educational Catholic organisations like the Latin Mass Society. Starved from money, which the church is currently experiencing, the upper echelons will either collapse into irrelevance, or be forced to do something about the problems. Pope Francis, as much as I disagree with him in many ways, has moved in strides in this area, and for this very reason. There's a lot of information I'm omitting for the sake of brevity here, this has regularly been a topic of conversation among Catholics within my social circles for quite some time as I'm sure you can imagine. If you'd like to dip your toe into the water, your might be interested in 'Letter to a Suffering Church' by Bishop Robert Barron.

This brings me to the term traditional Catholic, avoiding theological jargon, the simplest way I can put it is like this. The traditional way of practicing the religion has been around for over a millennium and a half (more or less), largely unchanged. The Catholic church has tried to change the tradition considerably since around the 1960s, attempting to make it more progressive and approachable to the wider public. The original way of practicing the faith forces people to learn the Latin, learn the tradition, and actually practice the faith in what I would argue, is the correct way. The newer version turns the priest into the focal point, and well, I could list problems I see with it all day, but I'll just start ranting. I remember in the 80s there were a lot of guitars and pizza in these churches. Felt like more of a social club then a place of worship. Naturally attendance numbers for churches that practice the traditional way seem consistent, even rising slightly in popularity, but the newer way of practicing the mass, has seen dramatic loss of attendance over the decades. In another century I doubt the new version will even exist.

>>439599 You'll have to forgive my bad wording It's getting late and I'm pretty tired.

>>439599
What do you think about the vow of abstinence clergymen have to take? I have a few friends who considered becoming priests but knew it just wouldn't be possible for them with that expectation, and they feel the church would experience a huge revival if priests were allowed to become family men.

Hail Glycon.

I'm reading the Bhagavad Gita and I''ve been enjoying it so far. It's full of useful advice and interesting insights on how to conduct yourself in life, presented straightforwardly as a dialogue between a warrior and an avatar of the godhead. I tried reading the Bible but it didn't come across anywhere near as cogent; it was basically a load of fanciful gobbledegook.