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|>>|| No. 422653
>How did we become so dependent on constant connectivity?
Because it's incredibly useful.
It's entirely churlish to say something like 'well we managed when I was a lad!'. Well yeah, so did I, but back then there were landlines and phone booths everywhere. If the GPO had stopped working for a day back then, people would have been saying exactly the same things, would they not?
Parents are likely concerned about an emergency with their kids as they no longer have a land line. And even if they did and they're out, is it that unreasonable for them to want to know about it even if they don't happen to be in the house? Just because that wasn't a possibility in the 80s, doesn't mean it should't be now. I'm sure there were absolutely a few people who missed saying goodbye to loved ones because they were at the shops when the hospital rang. It makes no sense to me to expect people to shrug that off now, particularly when they're paying a company to keep that service up. Not to mention the obvious, that the mobile networks are typically so reliable in terms of uptime, that I don't recall being out of service for more than half an hour, ever - of course people are going to be annoyed when it's out for an entire day.
It's like being surprised that people are pissed off their power is out for six hours, when people were quite happy to live by candlelight back in the day.
We've relied on phones for many, many decades, the only difference is they're in our pockets now.
|>>|| No. 422654
>but back then there were landlines
I honestly read that as "landmines" the first time.
Fun fact: the word "landline" did not exist in common everyday usage before there were mobile phones. It was only when you needed to distinguish a phone plugged into the wall from a mobile that the word "landline" began being used widely.
> We've relied on phones for many, many decades, the only difference is they're in our pockets now.
|>>|| No. 422655
> many people now feel acute separation anxiety if their phone stops working?
|>>|| No. 422656
>Fun fact: the word "landline" did not exist in common everyday usage before there were mobile phones. It was only when you needed to distinguish a phone plugged into the wall from a mobile that the word "landline" began being used widely.
I don't think anyone here is young enough to be surprised by this fact.
|>>|| No. 422657
I know that I've lived a weird life, but it just seems strange that many people seem to have very limited resiliency. I've seen people affected by the O2 outage who can't seem to figure out how to pass on a message to a friend or get in touch with their customers or just amuse themselves for a few hours. If you literally don't know how to organise your life without your mobile phone, how are you going to cope if there's a genuine crisis?
In the technology industry, we often talk about "brittleness" - systems that are ordinarily very reliable, but prone to catastrophic failure. It seems like western society is becoming much more brittle in general. When things work 98% of the time, you have a backup plan; when they work 99.9% of the time, you might be inclined to round that up to 100%, with potentially disastrous consequences. Our cars are so reliable that we don't know the most basic aspects of how they work or how to maintain them. Our phones contain such a wide range of useful functionality that we're absolutely humped without them. Blackouts are sufficiently rare that most people don't have a box of candles or a decent flashlight in the cupboard under the stairs. A lot of young people rarely if ever use cash.
I remember Charlie Brooker once talking about his fear that he might forget some vital piece of personal information and become an un-person, unable to convince anyone of his identity and so rendered destitute by his inability to access banking or government services. That doesn't seem like an entirely unreasonable fear these days.
|>>|| No. 422658
>t seems like western society is becoming much more brittle in general. When things work 98% of the time, you have a backup plan; when they work 99.9% of the time, you might be inclined to round that up to 100%, with potentially disastrous consequences.
This is only true if everything goes wrong at the same time. If your bank card stops working you can still make your way to the bank to fix it, or probably just transfer money online to another account. If your car breaks you can still call someone to fix it, or look it up on the internet. If your bank card no longer works or your car does and there's nobody left to call, or the internet no longer exists, then I posit you have much bigger problems. It would take an almost complete collapse of society for you to be stripped of all avenues of resources for your technical or mechanical issues.
I also agree that people should be able to fix their own cars, but I don't buy the implication that everyone was able to do so back when it was simpler. Even in my grandads day, working on your own engine was something that people had to deliberately learn, and not everyone did. My other grandad owned cars too but wouldn't know which end of the wrench to hold. It was a hobby still, and I bet that a lot more people now are home mechanics, precisely because they can look it up on YouTube or buy a wrench for £3 on Amazon.
We harbour the sense that "back in a simpler time" we had better survival skills, but you have to go pretty fucking far back for that to be true, and even then only someone on a self sustaining farm is likely to be surviving for very long during the apocalypse.
I have a hunch that more people know intuitively how to farm something or vaguely how to camp or get the meat off a pig than any random person from the 50s. We're exposed to so much more information than they were.
|>>|| No. 422659
>precisely because they can look it up on YouTube or buy a wrench for £3 on Amazon
You make a series of really good points. We have such ridiculous access to information, tools, learning resources that simply didn't exist back in our grandads day.
|>>|| No. 422660
Not to disagree with the rest of your post but
>I bet that a lot more people now are home mechanics, precisely because they can look it up on YouTube or buy a wrench for £3 on Amazon.
the /mph/ lads will be in here shortly to point out that no car built in the past decade can be repaired without expensive specialist tools that are probably not even for sale to the genpop because of computer parts and companies realising they can make more money by charging for licenses to repair and such.
Even if there are more home mechanics now, they can only work on their old clunkers and that with parts nobody's mass producing any more.
|>>|| No. 422661
I'm an /mph/ lad and that's far from true. The ECU is certainly a difficult thing to repair unless you're an electrical engineer or a programmer, but that's a relatively rare problem, and I don't see replacing a failed ECU as any different from replacing a cracked block - I have no way to fabricate a replacement for either.
There's not really specialist tools involved either, unless you're talking about interfacing with the ECU.
These problems certainly exist and I'm not denying I'd rather have a car that's 100% mechanical, but functionally the only difference between servicing a 1980s Range Rover and a 2018 one is that you need to be up on your soldering skills as well as your welding.
The more we see electric cars, the more true your point will become, though. If your Tesla gets a flat tyre, it needs to be taken away on a flatbed truck as jacking the thing up presents too many risks of piercing its batteries.
|>>|| No. 422662
It's 14°C outside and so I am fucking roasting.
What's going on? It's December for fuck's sake.
|>>|| No. 422663
Not to mention the neighbours who have been sitting in their window screaming for a good 2 hours straight.
|>>|| No. 422665
Listen you cunts. I went out drinking yesterday and I had nothing to read on the train, nobody to text because the service was so patchy, and when I got there I had to just hope they were in the pub we'd agreed to or else I was fucked. It was like being back in the dark, bleak times of the mid 2000s. It was grim.
|>>|| No. 422667
I got an email from Habbo Hotel saying that [user] has changed his email to my email address and I need to click a link to confirm this. I obviously haven't clicked it but I'm confused as to why someone would want to use my email. I've never had a Habbo account and my email is quite unique so I doubt it's been entered by mistake.
|>>|| No. 422672
Just got another set of washing machine bearings in the post.
As the repair of my own washing machine was a lasting success earlier this year, I have now taken it upon me to change the bearings on my mum's washing machine as well. It's a Bosch machine that's over 20 years old, but definitely worth saving because they just don't make them like that anymore. You see it when you disassemble a machine like that, everything was designed to last. There isn't a lot of plastic inside of it, most of it is solid stainless steel. Your late model Hotpoint, on the other hand, is pretty much going to be a throwaway item that's probably not even going to last ten years.
So SKF are said to be one of the best manufacturers of bearings. I first got cheap Chinese IBB bearings off eBay (for near enough the same price as the SKF ones), but when they arrived, they looked disappointingly flimsy. I am sending them back today.
For a washing machine, splash resistant bearings are recommended (characterised by the black rubber seal on the side walls as in the picture). Stainless steel bearings are an option but generally aren't necessary, unless the shaft seal of the washing machine drum fails, in which case you've got a whole different problem in itself. To prevent surface corrosion though, it's a good idea to coat them in a bit of all-purpose grease.
|>>|| No. 422685
I couldn't find my TV remote and genuinely considered ordering a replacement on Prime Now instead of bothering to look properly for it.
What the fuck is wrong with me. This is what happens when you own a television.
|>>|| No. 422687
I know, but they don't ever seem to do that Magic Remote shit on LG tellies, which I use a lot.
|>>|| No. 422710
An expired SSL certificate more like. That's what took down 32 million customers. Ericsson distributed an update to all their routers that failed because of the expired certificate and they had to manually back out and re-apply the updates on every router. That's not a software "glitch", its a fuck up.
|>>|| No. 422713
>That's not a software "glitch", its a fuck up.
Yes, probably. But you are not going to hear "Sorry we've fucked up" from many companies.
|>>|| No. 422714
Don't make light of this. The only internet I have access to at the moment is a dongle which went down and it's in those moments that a million obscure questions come to mind. Plus my phone was vibrating all day with repeat texts which knackered the battery so I couldn't listen to anything on the way home.
That may sound like 'first world problems' or whatever our resident antifa lad comes out with but Africa actually has pretty decent phone data infrastructure for obvious reasons. It's more like 21st century problems only it doesn't work because the world has changed over 10-20 years to the point you actually need this stuff.
I wish more would. Politicians and captains of industry too while I'm wishing upon a star. Just quickly owning up when things go wrong and being blunt about it would do wonders if played right.
Basically what I'm saying is we need some kind of dictatorship of the proletariat only with plain speaking Yorkshiremen.
>Soz about t' train delays. When I started plannin it wor already 'alf six at night and ad ta get back for Emmerdale. Won't happen again but not making any promises.
>Az I speak T'34s of are Matt 'av started the process of liquidating Soho in that London ta make way for a Pound Bakery superstore.
Might be a tedious joke but I've got cleaning to be doing which I really can't be arsed starting on.
Soho can proper fuck off though. Too busy, nowt decent, expensive and the tube station is ridiculously overcrowded. I can see how you might like it if you're a complete wanker but it's no local with your mates on Christmas Eve or rundown sticky-carpet club with tons of character to it.
|>>|| No. 422715
When my broadband goes down I get feverish with desire to get it back on. I'm sitting there like refresh, refresh, refresh, refresh. When it comes back on I'm like eh... and go back to using the computer for non-internet things and just googling something occasionally.
|>>|| No. 422716
>Don't make light of this. The only internet I have access to at the moment is a dongle which went down and it's in those moments that a million obscure questions come to mind.
I'm not saying I can't see that it annoys the fuck out of you when the Internet is patchy.
I just had a different problem. I've used up nearly all my phone data for this month because I accidentally had wi-fi disabled and spent about an hour watching youtube videos on it in bed this morning. May have to top up a bit for this month, I think Vodafone charge you £5 for another 500 MB or something.
|>>|| No. 422722
I never understood why people go to poor countries on their holidays.
Perhaps because I hail from one. Seen enough.
They probably don't care.
I felt pretty similar when by chance I happened to enter the old flat I used to live in with my parents as a wee lad. It was equally strange to see that view out of the window again, only you aren't 5 years old anymore but almost 30.
Think I spent about 30 minutes staring out of that window once, lost in thought and observation.
> For me personally I'd rather have tried the dream and failed than always wonder what if.
Good for you. Did you try?
Not trying to offend or to troll, genuine interest.
Had my fair share of angry yells when working at tech support.
Mind you those folks weren't even paying twenty quid per month.
We had a bunch of companies on a VIP plan - very expensive - and it was rather astonishing how decent and understanding they were over the phone.
I'm a bit conflicted here, whilst understanding the complaints if your life depends on Net access then do totally try to find some means to establish a back-up.
People are generally hooked up on convenience; thinking about resilience and all that bollocks evoke uncomfortable thoughts and takes the convenience part out. Thus the inaction.
As far as I'm aware some lads went further even there: a custom ECU firmware is a thing.
|>>|| No. 422724
I cannot begin to describe how bad it's been this past month. Couple days ago I decided to go out and buy porn but it turns out physical pornography is a mythical unicorn these days.
Long story short, the adult store my phone directed me to was a bondage shop. A gay-bondage shop. I walked though the door to burly blokes with Village People moustaches mid-way into a conversation about "guzzling down hot cum loads". There was an uncomfortable moment of me scanning the shelves before I decided to get out of there as this was all getting a bit too Pulp Fiction for me.
It's actually not all that bad these days. EE at least does 2gig for £7 (awkward units to mess with people doing paper top-ups I imagine).
|>>|| No. 422728
I've just discovered that the youtube app has a setting where you can disable HD videos when not connected to a wi-fi network. That's kind of a very sensible feature and I wonder why they didn't set it as default.
|>>|| No. 422729
>I never understood why people go to poor countries on their holidays.
A lot of people say things to me like "ooh, go to <poor country>, you can live like a king for nothing!" So I suppose that's the appeal to a lot of cheap boring brits, getting a pint and a prostitute for 45p must feel exciting to them.
Feels a bit exploitative to me, but I suppose they're still being overcharged by the locals even if it's relatively cheap.
|>>|| No. 422735
> Feels a bit exploitative to me, but I suppose they're still being overcharged by the locals even if it's relatively cheap.
It's all relative. If a cup of coffee is £1.50 at a restaurant in a third world country, then that's a very reasonable price by UK standards, but probably still an hour's average wage in Botswana. So it's something that goes both ways. You get to drink a coffee for almost half the standard UK restaurant price, and they get to collect a tidy profit by selling you that coffee at a price which most locals can't afford that often.
|>>|| No. 422737
My win rate, amongst all video games I've been playing int he last couple of weeks, is less than 1 in 15.
In rocket league, I had a 22 streak of lost games. I can't even remember what the win screen on a lot of games looks like.
|>>|| No. 422744
You might need new glasses, total speculation on my part of course.
But in all seriousness I became much more shite at computer games once my prescription was past its best.
|>>|| No. 422747
>It's all relative.
Yeah, that's why I used the word 'relatively'. That was my entire point.
|>>|| No. 422748
Not him but I think age in general is the killer here.
I've played Counterstrike since I was about fifteen, I know the game inside out now at nearly 30, but just don't have the same reaction times as the teenlads anymore. It's probably a matter of milliseconds but that's significant in competitive play.
|>>|| No. 422749
I know of poor countries where inflation is so amazingly out of control that you end up paying UK prices for a lot of things anyway. Petrol in Brazil (where they actually make the stuff) is actually more expensive at the pump there than it is in the UK. The mind boggles. And don't get me into the price of a cup of coffee but you're looking at about £2 anywhere half-way nice.
Sage for nothing of value to really say.
|>>|| No. 422750
I'm not an economist, but surely if the prices of things are at a level similar to the UK, that should push up the standards of wages etc in that country?
I mean that's the theory economists use for our totally not broken and fucked economic system at home right? So what's going wrong there?
The triumph of the free market.
|>>|| No. 422751
The minimum wage is something like £250/month now, which is twice what it was 10 years ago. Unfortunately almost everything you need to spend money on to live from rent, petrol, food, electricity, etc, are 4+ times more expensive than they were 10 years ago.
It's a messed up economy where you can get massive interest on your savings account due to runaway inflation all while you earn even more because of the currency isn't in free-fall because the government artificially manipulates the exchange rate of the Real to the USD to a massive extent.
Obviously the country that are most blatantly manipulating the official exchange rate vs the real world exchange rate is Venezuela and we all know what's going down there.
|>>|| No. 422755
You often have a twofold price structure in poorer countries. The more touristy parts will charge £1.50 for a coffee, but a coffee bar in the Botswanian polar that only caters to the natives will probably only be able to charge 25p per cup.
Those who work in sectors affected by foreign demands from wealthy countries will have higher than average wages, but you can't just make a whole third world country's economy depend on tourism.
What you also have to take into account is that wealthy nations often dictate terms of trade to the poorer ones from which commodities are sourced. The restaurant owner in Botswana may sell his coffee for £1.50, but a wholesale bag of coffee beans will be sold from Kenya to Britain at global market prices, and while they are a matter of supply and demand, the demand side which is usually wealthy first-world nations tends to wield its influence and gets the upper hand.
In terms of domestic prices in Britain, it's true that inflation tends to create jobs and income. A rise in prices on a company's sale side, usually demand driven, is incentive for that company to produce more goods and allocate resources, maybe even hire more people and pay them more. Also, it will enable the company to spend more money sourcing its supplies, which will also have gone up in price.
Falling prices, on the other hand, mean deflation. As a company, if I know prices are stagnating or even falling for the products I make, then I will be forced to make less of them and pay my employees less, and maybe even have to let some of them go.
In our time, it's not really as simple anymore as saying that inflation is good because it creates jobs. You also can't argue from the demand side anymore as easily by saying give people higher wages and they will spend more and thus drive prices higher. Especially in times of economic uncertainty, people will be much more conservative about their spending. If you give them ten percent more wages, it may result only in a three percent rise in demand for goods and services. But also, people who have more disposable income will not necessarily spend all their money in Britain. They will travel abroad and spend some of it there, or they will buy their consumer electronics directly from China off eBay.
|>>|| No. 422799
These are team games though. If it was a matter of it all being up to me, fair enough, I'm a shit cunt at most things in life.
But whether it's hackers on the other team, being backfilled into games losing 8-0 down, or just general massive skill mismatch, the massive losing streak continues.
|>>|| No. 422811
I'm confident that, what will then be retro, video game streamer for OAPs is a job that will exist in fifty or so years.
|>>|| No. 422812
You've already got quintagenarians on youtube reminiscing about the Commodore 64, so yes, that's definitely going to be the future. OAPs killing time after breakfast playing the original Half Life.
|>>|| No. 422813
People in their thirties already make a living on playing SNES games and such, so you're not wrong.
|>>|| No. 422817
What a magical face that is, I wonder why she pulled it. Is it half way through a sneeze?
|>>|| No. 422819
I got really confused earlier because Politics Live was on at 4PM and I hadn't checked the news since this morning. These MPs are so inconsiderate.
|>>|| No. 422820
Surprising amount of birds tbh.jpg
>We harbour the sense that "back in a simpler time" we had better survival skills, but you have to go pretty fucking far back for that to be true, and even then only someone on a self sustaining farm is likely to be surviving for very long during the apocalypse.
I reckon the Civil War reenactors will do alright and I doubt many people could deal with them while Mars and Earth align. While you fuckers get to realising the internet has ruined your memory I'd be worrying about the real problem our society now faces. Roundheads.
It's a great comfort to know that our generations retirement will basically be like how we lived before we had to get jobs. I'm even a little excited at the idea of playing Civ II and wanking to thoughts of the carers all day.
Dunno if they'll let us on the internet though.
Not a soul predicted she would do that in the thousands of lines of text about this. Pretty impressive when you think about it.
|>>|| No. 422821
If only people realised that taking back control meant giving greater power to the idiots we've got in charge.
Hopefully it's going to cause such a political earthquake that it completely transforms British politics as we know it.
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