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>> No. 418316 Anonymous
2nd July 2018
Monday 9:50 pm
418316 Official Trump visit Thread
So The Tangerine Tyrant is gracing us with his presence, on the 13th of July. Friday the 13th in fact.

Coordinated mass protests are predicted and the met has drafted in reinforcements to "balance" free speech and security.

There's the admirable "Show your rump to trump", the coordinated mooning will if nothing offend POTUS, who is a self-confessed "germa-phobe".

Then there's the venerable "giant Trump Baby balloon". Though are Sadiq has forbidden its flying. Watch this space.

https://abcnews.go.com/International/activists-plan-giant-trump-baby-balloon-protest-uk/story?id=56195667

Buckle up, it's going to be one helluva ride.
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>> No. 418317 Anonymous
2nd July 2018
Monday 9:52 pm
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Let's see if he can handle the #BANTZ
>> No. 418318 Anonymous
2nd July 2018
Monday 10:03 pm
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>>418316
I will be marking the occasion by being self-obsessed, smothering myself in fake tan, making inappropriate and contradictory comments, and grabbing my female coworkers by their pussies.

Though if by some miracle I manage to shake his hand, I shall make sure to swipe it through my arse crack first.
>> No. 418319 Anonymous
2nd July 2018
Monday 10:11 pm
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I think its more likely to just be a bit embarrassing.
>> No. 418320 Anonymous
2nd July 2018
Monday 10:26 pm
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>>418319
This. It'd be far more effective to simply ignore his visit. Then again, most protestors seem to be doing it for pure vanity.
>> No. 418321 Anonymous
2nd July 2018
Monday 10:35 pm
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>>418316

Why? What will this do other than further the negative stereotypes about us?

Besides, Trump isn't even particularily disliked anymore.
>> No. 418322 Anonymous
2nd July 2018
Monday 10:43 pm
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>>418320
Couldn't agree more.
>> No. 418324 Anonymous
2nd July 2018
Monday 10:48 pm
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>>418320

That's so true. From everything we know about the nature of the man, it'd be absolutely devastating for him to be met with empty streets and tumbleweeds.
>> No. 418325 Anonymous
2nd July 2018
Monday 10:56 pm
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I don't understand why showing your arse to a germaphobe would upset them, outside of the presumed unpleasantness of seeing lots of arses. Unless someone manages to launch a liquid projectile shit at him, I think he'll just call them some names and not be the least bit bothered.
>> No. 418326 Anonymous
2nd July 2018
Monday 10:59 pm
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>>418321
>Why? What will this do other than further the negative stereotypes about us?

Demonstrate that his presence is not wanted. As opposed to assuming we are entirely tacit though our inaction.

>Trump isn't even particularily disliked anymore.

Fake news
>> No. 418327 Anonymous
2nd July 2018
Monday 11:04 pm
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>>418320
> It'd be far more effective to simply ignore his visit.
How could that possibly be true?
Ignoring is easily confused with silent approval. Boos and jeers aren't.
>> No. 418328 Anonymous
2nd July 2018
Monday 11:07 pm
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>>418327

Trump is a textbook narcissist. He'll enjoy crowds of people getting worked up about him regardless if it's positive or negative.
>> No. 418329 Anonymous
2nd July 2018
Monday 11:32 pm
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>>418328

Then you need to turn him in on himself. Calmly standing there with signs like "You are the worst President" I think would probably get under his skin, screaming and shouting would feed him.
>> No. 418330 Anonymous
3rd July 2018
Tuesday 12:10 am
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>>418328
Ignoring him will piss him off much more. Whatever happens during his visit, he will claim that thousands of us came out to see him.
>> No. 418332 Anonymous
3rd July 2018
Tuesday 5:22 am
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Wasn't Trump already effectively deterred from visiting in the past by threat of demonstrations?

It would seem the OP is right, kicking up a fuss is the better course of action, regardless of whether it affects Trump personally. It expresses disapproval to our own government, which is the one we actually have the greatest degree of influence over.
>> No. 418333 Anonymous
3rd July 2018
Tuesday 5:43 am
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>>418332

>Wasn't Trump already effectively deterred from visiting in the past by threat of demonstrations?

I don't believe so. I can't find any reference to this, at least.

You're right though - we should be protesting our own government. We already got him knocked down from an official state visit.
>> No. 418334 Anonymous
3rd July 2018
Tuesday 6:07 am
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>>418333
How hard did you look?


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/11/donald-trump-state-visit-delayed-president-told-pm-will-not/
>> No. 418335 Anonymous
3rd July 2018
Tuesday 6:49 am
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>>418334
>The American President is said to have told Theresa May he does not want to come if people do not welcome his visit.

Something that could have also been achieved by ignoring him, then. That would have also made him feel unwelcome. Trump has largely waited for the furore to die down following his comments about the London Bridge/Borough Market daft militant wog attack last year.

Anyway, people want to protest about Trump because it's fashionable. They want to go out and protest largely so they can let people know they're protesting and to take selfies of them doing so. They didn't protest about the Saudi state visit because it wasn't cool to do so and they'd earn few brownie points for it. Protesting Trump is a bandwagon they want to jump on.
>> No. 418336 Anonymous
3rd July 2018
Tuesday 6:51 am
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>>418334

But he is coming despite very public plans to protest him.
>> No. 418340 Anonymous
3rd July 2018
Tuesday 9:24 am
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Because Trump is a narcissist, he literally cannot perceive criticism of him. Calling him a massive bell end would just sounding like garbled gibberish to him. That's why he forces his staff to say nice things to him in meetings, because he can't properly perceive anything that doesn't congratulate him.
>> No. 418341 Anonymous
3rd July 2018
Tuesday 9:30 am
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>>418336

But if you read the thread you'll notice there is already a psy-ops campaign to convince those inclined to demonstrate not to show up. Because not showing up apparently sends a clear message as opposed to being assumed to be silent consent like it has every time in the past.
>> No. 418343 Anonymous
3rd July 2018
Tuesday 10:58 am
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>>418341
I don't think people shouldn't demonstrate, paranoia lad, I just think getting your bum out is a bit silly. One of the biggest criticisms of Trump is that he doesn't appear to take anything seriously, so we should moon him? It doesn't make sense to me.
>> No. 418344 Anonymous
3rd July 2018
Tuesday 12:01 pm
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It's fucking embarrassing.
>> No. 418348 Anonymous
3rd July 2018
Tuesday 4:27 pm
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>>418343

I can already see Trump's tweets...

"England (sic) has become a nation of mooners. So sad."

"People mooning the U.S. President while immigrants take their jobs and rape their women. Disgusting."
>> No. 418349 Anonymous
3rd July 2018
Tuesday 5:08 pm
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>>418348

Yeah, he'll throw in a couple of "disgustings" and "shamefuls" too, but he won't actually care. Has no one noticed that yet? Just simply doesn't give a monkeys.

I think the slightly twee "hehe, rump" thing put me off too. Obviously they called it that because it rhymes, but if I properly hate someone, I want them to have to look deep into my Thai birthday suprise and never, ever forget it.
>> No. 418350 Anonymous
3rd July 2018
Tuesday 5:12 pm
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>>418341
> if you read the thread you'll notice there is already a psy-ops campaign to convince those inclined to demonstrate not to show up

WAKE. UP. SHEEPLE.
>> No. 418351 Anonymous
3rd July 2018
Tuesday 5:25 pm
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>>418350

Psy Ops telling people not to demonstrate. Shameful.
>> No. 418352 Anonymous
3rd July 2018
Tuesday 5:43 pm
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>>418351
How influential do you imagine Britfa.gs is? I know we used to be one of the top Google results for a certain beefy phrase, but people calling your protest ideas vacuous on here isn't going to result in thousands of people deciding not to do it.
>> No. 418353 Anonymous
3rd July 2018
Tuesday 5:44 pm
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Is there anything happening for us who want to show our support for him?
>> No. 418354 Anonymous
3rd July 2018
Tuesday 6:42 pm
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Christ this is embarrassing. Shall we have a large, dignified protest? Perhaps one with an echoing silence that would perfectly display how little we think of this childish, petulant, offensive, incompetent boor? No, let's call up the Rentamobs and show the world that when Brits make a point we like to do it like toddlers. Am I the only one who sees the irony in this?

I have been to two protests in my life. Both were well-behaved and somewhat successful, since we were, ya know, trying to raise awareness of issues that local politicians could actually do something about. And on both occasions I saw the same twat wearing a rubber pig mask calling himself 'Hardcastle' who had nothing to do with either and who just liked going along to any demo he could find if it gave him an excuse to yell at policemen and be all revolutionary innit. And also presumably to dribble on about it to his mates afterwards as a proud Anti-Whatever Warrior.
As stated above the perfect form of protest would be for nobody to show up. Trump is exactly the sort of person who thinks that if he's riling people up in large numbers then he must be doing something right and he won't distinguish between positive and negative responses; that kind of ego cares only for more, louder, more strident attention. Alternatively a large crowd standing in complete silence would definitely unsettle him and make a point far louder than screaming 'FUCK DRUMPF' while pointing buttcracks at the watching world.

What we'll get instead is the usual bunch of paranoid drugged-up shouty refuseniks and obese shrieking acrobat harpies with badly dyed-hair. It will be humiliating for exactly the wrong people and won't change a fucking thing. Except of course, it will give these sorts of idiots the warm, comforting glow of Doing The Right Thing. I don't seem to recall them out in force when America's last president was committing extra-judicial killings on an industrial scale across the Middle East.

But what do I know, I'm just a junior officer in the YMCA's Psy-Op Division, carefully monitoring the hive of organised sedition that is .gs.
>> No. 418355 Anonymous
3rd July 2018
Tuesday 7:02 pm
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>>418352

Maybe we should go to the protests waving a banner with the letters ".gs/b/" on it.

So here is your challenge: Attend the protests, with a banner with ".gs/b/" on it, and then try to make it into the mainstream media's photo coverage of the event.

Make sure that it reads ".gs/b/" and not just "/b/". The paedos good people of 4chan can make their own banner.
>> No. 418356 Anonymous
3rd July 2018
Tuesday 7:09 pm
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>>418355
Just leave out the /b/ entirely. If we need a slash in there, use /IQ/ or /SHED/ instead.
>> No. 418361 Anonymous
3rd July 2018
Tuesday 8:43 pm
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>>418356

Still too on the nose.

I'll only be happy if I see a real deep cut britfa reference. "BAN TRUMP FROM THE CHIP SHOP" "ORANGE DONNY FELT MY MUSCLES" "JUSTICE FOR TEACOCK", that sort of thing.
>> No. 418362 Anonymous
3rd July 2018
Tuesday 8:45 pm
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>>418361
Aren't those all Britchan references?
>> No. 418363 Anonymous
3rd July 2018
Tuesday 9:08 pm
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>>418362
Not the first one I don't think. It was about a mod exiled from here.
>> No. 418364 Anonymous
3rd July 2018
Tuesday 9:14 pm
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>>418362

Now that I think about it Teacock might be, but Chipshop is from here, and are Aki is either from here, or simply so transcendent that it doesn't matter.

I'm fully supportive of a "don't let anyone dull your sparkle" sign, or maybe something to do with axe grinding. Or just half past two.
>> No. 418365 Anonymous
3rd July 2018
Tuesday 9:46 pm
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>>418351

Psy ops, or the genuine opinion that a reasonable, peaceful demonstration against an unreasonable, violent man is not a good option?

Either shoot him or stay at home ffs.
>> No. 418366 Anonymous
3rd July 2018
Tuesday 10:03 pm
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>>418361

How about this whole site's motto...

>"annoyingly elitist, reassuringly expansive"

I was going to say it's a good description both of this site and of Trump, but now that I think about it, in the case of Trump, being a big mouthed senile cunt with shedloads of money doesn't automatically make you elitist. However annoying you may be.
>> No. 418367 Anonymous
3rd July 2018
Tuesday 10:51 pm
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>>418361
Didn't ARE MOATY rob a chippy?
>> No. 418368 Anonymous
3rd July 2018
Tuesday 11:13 pm
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>>418366

>I was going to say it's a good description both of this site and of Trump

...and ARE STELLA of course.
>> No. 418369 Anonymous
3rd July 2018
Tuesday 11:16 pm
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>>418366
>reassuringly expansive

Provided you want to talk about coding, being a chef or hate on womenfolk.
>> No. 418371 Anonymous
3rd July 2018
Tuesday 11:29 pm
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>>418369

What if I am a coding whale poacher chef?
>> No. 418373 Anonymous
4th July 2018
Wednesday 1:42 am
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>>418369
And your experience as an alcoholic or maybe who your guilty crush is.
>> No. 418376 Anonymous
4th July 2018
Wednesday 1:03 pm
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>>418371>>418373
I felt all flushed with fever embarrassed by the crowd.
I felt he found my letters and read each one out loud.
I prayed that he would finish but he just kept right on.
Strumming my pain with his fingers
singing my life with his words
killing me softly with his song
killing me softly with his song telling my whole life
with his words killing me softly
with his song.
>> No. 418386 Anonymous
5th July 2018
Thursday 1:34 am
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>>418373
Or that time a bunch of reprobates on an internet messageboard egged you on into shagging your auntie.
>> No. 418387 Anonymous
5th July 2018
Thursday 1:38 am
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>>418386


>egged you on into shagging your auntie.

You see far worse on .gs.
>> No. 418388 Anonymous
5th July 2018
Thursday 1:42 am
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>>418387
I...whuh...you mean we've done worse than actual incest?
>> No. 418389 Anonymous
5th July 2018
Thursday 2:14 am
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>>418388
There was that lad with the phone ...
>> No. 418390 Anonymous
5th July 2018
Thursday 2:50 am
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>>418388

I'm sure we had an Auntiefucker around here 2-3 years ago or so.
>> No. 418392 Anonymous
5th July 2018
Thursday 8:37 am
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>>418390
It was longer than that lad.
>> No. 418403 Anonymous
5th July 2018
Thursday 1:35 pm
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>A giant balloon dubbed "Trump baby" has been given the green light to fly near parliament during the president's UK visit.

>London mayor Sadiq Khan's Greater London Authority has approved a request for the flight after thousands signed a petition and a crowdfunding campaign raised more than £16,000 to get the six-metre inflatable off the ground.

https://news.sky.com/story/trump-angry-baby-blimp-gets-green-light-to-fly-
over-london-during-presidents-visit-11426665
>> No. 418404 Anonymous
5th July 2018
Thursday 1:41 pm
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>>418403

That's just going to be Twitter gold when Trump finds out and tweets about it.
>> No. 418407 Anonymous
5th July 2018
Thursday 2:26 pm
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>>418403

How long before one of our lot shoots it down?
>> No. 418410 Anonymous
5th July 2018
Thursday 2:53 pm
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>>418407

You mean somebody from .gs?
>> No. 418411 Anonymous
5th July 2018
Thursday 2:54 pm
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>>418407

I'm predicting US secret service will shoot it down, and will spark a national controversy just as insane as the current presidency.
>> No. 418413 Anonymous
5th July 2018
Thursday 3:13 pm
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>>418411 

They have a permit from the Mayor of London, and the U.S. Secret Service has no jurisdiction in the UK. All it is allowed to do is avert immediate threats to the safety or well being of the President. Its powers while they are here in Britain do not go beyond a citizen's arrest.
>> No. 418414 Anonymous
5th July 2018
Thursday 3:23 pm
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>>418413

They'll still shoot it and plant some crack on it mate. They're Americans.
>> No. 418419 Anonymous
5th July 2018
Thursday 8:13 pm
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>>418316
And this is why I can't feel sad anytime the grooming gangs routinely violate the local Chavette slags. Britain needs someone like Trump or Enoch Powell.
>> No. 418420 Anonymous
5th July 2018
Thursday 8:15 pm
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>>418419

What, so a different set of people can be oppressed?
>> No. 418424 Anonymous
5th July 2018
Thursday 9:14 pm
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>>418419

Well trolled, lad.
>> No. 418440 Anonymous
6th July 2018
Friday 10:42 am
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>>418424

Why would he be trolling? He's right.
>> No. 418450 Anonymous
6th July 2018
Friday 1:39 pm
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>>418440

Is he? You don't need rivers of blood to correct police handling of situations it shouldn't be that hard of concept for the police to grasp the idea of applying the law as it currently exists.

The most bewildering thing to me is that they don't in these situations.
>> No. 418451 Anonymous
6th July 2018
Friday 1:58 pm
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>>418450
Do you know anything about Enoch Powell other than his name and 'rivers of blood sounds scary'?
>> No. 418452 Anonymous
6th July 2018
Friday 2:07 pm
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>>418451

We know that what he foresaw did not happen.
>> No. 418454 Anonymous
6th July 2018
Friday 2:53 pm
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>>418451

Yes I do. Do you have a point?
>> No. 418459 Anonymous
6th July 2018
Friday 4:09 pm
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>>418452

I've got a pair of glasses here for you, mate.

>>418451

I hate that that speech got the name that it did. Lefty propaganda wins again "but he wants rivers of blood, running in the streets no doubt". Commie bastards, Thatcher should have had them all deported to France.
>> No. 418461 Anonymous
6th July 2018
Friday 5:15 pm
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Owen Jones has endorsed it.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jul/06/trump-baby-blimp-snowflake-right-london

That's the kiss of death, then. It'll probably burst, fly away after the tethers snap, kill an elderly person or something like that.
>> No. 418466 Anonymous
6th July 2018
Friday 5:43 pm
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Is it time to get into a cunt off about Enoch Powell?

Incidentally, here's his infamous speech in full:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b09z08w3

Which he made in reaction to the race relations bill. Powell was kicked out of the Tory cabinet following this speech.
>> No. 418470 Anonymous
6th July 2018
Friday 6:04 pm
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>>418466

We all have access to Wikipedia, lad.
>> No. 418474 Anonymous
6th July 2018
Friday 6:47 pm
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>>418459

>I hate that that speech got the name that it did. Lefty propaganda wins again "but he wants rivers of blood, running in the streets no doubt".

"As I look ahead, I am filled with foreboding; like the Roman, I seem to see the River Tiber foaming with much blood" -from the rivers of blood speech.

Yes it was a total misrepresentation it should be called "the preexisting river filled with blood speech" calling it the rivers of blood speech is a totally inappropriate.
>> No. 418476 Anonymous
6th July 2018
Friday 7:07 pm
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>>418474
It didn't help that having developed a solid argument he proceeded to jump off the deep end around two-thirds of the way through, and despite being one of the foremost classicists of his time he got the reference completely wrong.
>> No. 418481 Anonymous
6th July 2018
Friday 8:04 pm
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>>418316
Cleverly scheduled for the day before the World Cup final. Not so cleverly arranged to visit Scotland. I can see the football chant already.

HEEEEY HEY DONALD
I WANNA KNOOOW
WHY YOU'RE SUCH A CUNT
>> No. 418484 Anonymous
6th July 2018
Friday 9:55 pm
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>>418474

> "As I look ahead, I am filled with foreboding; like the Roman, I seem to see the River Tiber foaming with much blood" -from the rivers of blood speech.

> Yes it was a total misrepresentation

The misinterpretation is all yours, Are Enoch was just being metaphorical, lad. What he really meant was "like the man in Rotherham, I seem to see the River Dearne foaming with much blood of deflowered virgins raped by organized gangs of immigrants that you lefty wankers are letting in".

I'm not saying I'm happy that he was right. I too wish we could all live together in peace and harmony but we can't, because the world is made up of two kinds of people; cunts and mugs. Old Enoch might have been a cunt but it's a damn sight better than being a mug.
>> No. 418486 Anonymous
6th July 2018
Friday 10:10 pm
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>>418484
Back to the other /pol/, lad.
>> No. 418487 Anonymous
6th July 2018
Friday 10:15 pm
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>>418486
> Back to the other /pol/, lad.

We're not even on /pol/, here, you total smeghead.
>> No. 418488 Anonymous
6th July 2018
Friday 10:22 pm
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>>418487

Nobody said we were, you illiterate muppet.
>> No. 418490 Anonymous
6th July 2018
Friday 10:28 pm
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>>418488

> Back to the other /pol/
> the other /pol/

This implies that we are on a /pol/ to begin with. What I think you were trying, in your simian way, smashing your keyboard with your ape like fists, was "Get back to /pol/ on the other place, lad.", but never mind, lad. Some of us have to be mugs, I guess.

Anyway, as you can't even form a sentence correctly I hereby veto any opinion you have on anything else.

There would be little point in going to /pol/ on the other place anyway, because even if I did want to discuss Enoch Powell with a bunch of ignorant yanks and fourteen year old idiots shitposting in between rounds of whatever online video game is flavour of the week, I wouldn't do it there.
>> No. 418491 Anonymous
6th July 2018
Friday 10:41 pm
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>>418490
>This implies that we are on a /pol/ to begin with.
No, it implies that your dreck is so devoid of substance that it falls below the already low standards of our /pol/.
>> No. 418493 Anonymous
6th July 2018
Friday 10:50 pm
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>>418481

No, there is only one true Scotsman taunt for the clothesless Emperor comes a calling.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6qoQ7UvEBk
>> No. 418494 Anonymous
6th July 2018
Friday 10:52 pm
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>>418486
>>418488
>>418487
>>418490
>>418491

ITT: a thread about the world's biggest cunt turns into an entirely predictable .gs cunt off.
>> No. 418496 Anonymous
6th July 2018
Friday 10:57 pm
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>>418493

That clip looks like a paedo's wet dream.
>> No. 418505 Anonymous
7th July 2018
Saturday 12:01 am
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>>418484
>> No. 418512 Anonymous
7th July 2018
Saturday 1:40 am
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>>418505

I might just be a top lad*, but can you explain exactly which goalposts I'm moving and how?

* Now let's see who remembers that one
>> No. 418513 Anonymous
7th July 2018
Saturday 1:41 am
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>>418512

Nice, it even got a word filter in the end I see.
>> No. 418515 Anonymous
7th July 2018
Saturday 2:09 am
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>>418392

Really? How long ago was it? .gs years blend into one giant timesink of a year.
>> No. 418519 Anonymous
7th July 2018
Saturday 6:37 am
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Counter protestors have raised £26,000 for a giant inflatable baby Sadiq Khan.

https://www.crowdfunder.co.uk/giant-sadiq-khan-baby-balloon-to-fly-over-london/
>> No. 418521 Anonymous
7th July 2018
Saturday 6:44 am
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>>418519
I'm pretty sure that this is somewhere in the book of revelations.
>> No. 418530 Anonymous
7th July 2018
Saturday 10:19 am
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>>418505
I'll summarize.

"It shouldn't be called the rivers of blood speech, that's just left wing propaganda"

Quote from the speech where he describes a river filled with blood

"Oh you don't understand that's just a metaphor"


Seems to me the name rivers of blood is a perfectly reasonable title and not left wing propaganda. And that my understanding of the metaphor is entirely irrelevant to that point.
>> No. 418531 Anonymous
7th July 2018
Saturday 10:25 am
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>>418530

It was spelt wrong though, he really meant "rivers of blud".
>> No. 418539 Anonymous
7th July 2018
Saturday 2:15 pm
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>>418530
> Seems to me the name rivers of blood is a perfectly reasonable title and not left wing propaganda.

Then you're a fucking idiot. There's no other way to say it. Calling a speech "Rivers of blood" gives the impressionable 90% who will never read it the convenient impression that it was an impassioned call to violence, when in fact the words "river Tiber" and "blood" were merely part of a throw-away reference at the end of the speech that had almost no impact at all on its overall message or content. A man of Enoch's education probably thought it added weight and gravitas to his words, while the average spanner who wouldn't have known the Tiber from his Khyber Pass cack-handledly calculated "conservative" + "rivers of blood" + "the word 'negro'" = "racist nazi brown shirt, boooooo".

And that, sir, is your basic definition of propaganda. The fact you are here and it is now and you are still under the its spell all these years later, despite posting on an internet full of academic explanations of why / how the name "rivers of blood" was used to deconstruct and ridicule ideas that were actually legitimate concerns only goes to show us all how powerful such propaganda is and that all Freuds should be put to the sword .

Anyway if you'll excuse me I've got to go and finish shaving my head in my limited edition Jimmy Saville shaving mirror and polishing my granddad's Dr Martins so I can kick some laplander heads in when England lose in a couple of hours.

>>418531

Possibly the best name for a grime track never recorded, "they tell me the Thames is just white folks and mud but all I can see is just rivers of blud [base drops] / Got yats in my yacht while I'm smoking my blunt / an all I can see is just rivers of blud"......
>> No. 418543 Anonymous
7th July 2018
Saturday 3:25 pm
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>>418539

>WHY IS IT CALLED RIVERS OF BLOOD/THE ST CRISPINS DAY/ I HAVE A DREAM/NEVER HAS SO MUCH BEEN OWED BY SO MANY TO SO FEW SPEECH! IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH A RIVER OF BLOOD/ST CRISPIN/SLEEP/OWING PEOPLE THING IT IS JUST A REMEMABLE LINE FROM THE SPEECH NAMING IT THAT IS A DELIBERATE TACTIC TO MISLEAD THE SHEEPLE, YOU ARE SO STUPID FOR NOT KNOWING THAT!

I see. Firstly I doubt Powell or anyone of the same inclination ever had an issue, with that name for the speech otherwise he would have never used that imagery, clearly it was his intention to portray unchecked immigration as having horrific consequences i.e. rivers of blood, and secondly I have never misunderstood what the intent of the metaphor was, nor do most people who talk negatively about it, they and I, aren't spooked by the idea rivers of blood like what he is suggesting is a violent solution but disagree with the philosophy contained within you long term Dunning–Kruger sufferer.
If you have an issue with the title you should have taken it up with Powell at the time, because no one gives a shit now on either side of the fence apart from you since you got your infowars tinfoil hat and supplements in the post and decided it is a conspiracy 50 years after the fact.
>> No. 418544 Anonymous
7th July 2018
Saturday 5:05 pm
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>>418543

> you long term Dunning–Kruger sufferer

The irony here is palpable. I understand it's match day and you're probably 8 tins down but come back tomorrow when you're sober and try to 1) not use 4chan style "meme quoting" 2) make proper use of paragraphs and punctuation. Now go have a nap. There's a good lad.
>> No. 418545 Anonymous
7th July 2018
Saturday 5:38 pm
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>>418543

> Firstly I doubt Powell or anyone of the same inclination ever had an issue, with that name for the speech otherwise he would have never used that imagery

Then, again, you're a total idiot. Just because you make one reference doesn't mean you expect for your speech to be referred to by it any more than you would expect it to be referred to be any other aspect or part of the speech. Why wasn't it referred to as the "I spoke to a member of my constituancy speech"? Well, because that doesn't scare the mugs.

> and secondly I have never misunderstood what the intent of the metaphor was, nor do most people who talk negatively about it, they and I, aren't spooked by the idea rivers of blood like what he is suggesting is a violent solution but disagree with the philosophy contained within [SIC]

What a glorious snippet of a long and powerful run-on sentence that is!

> they and I, aren't spooked by the idea rivers of blood like what he is suggesting is a violent solution but disagree with the philosophy contained within

This part is almost parsable. We disagree. You think that he was suggesting "rivers of blood" as a violent solution. I think that that is what the popular use of that name was meant to make people think, and that what he actually would have preferred was a much more sensible solution; only that no one was doing anything to help bring that about. His reference to the river Tiber was more of a warning of what could come to pass (and has come to pass) if more sensible immigration policy was not put in place (which it wasn't, and hasn't been).

> If you have an issue with the title you should have taken it up with Powell at the time

You honestly think that Powell got to decide on the popular name given by the media to his speech, and yet I'm the one who suffers from the Dunning–Kruger effect? Christ on a bike, lad.

> decided it is a conspiracy 50 years after the fact.

You honestly manage to conflate propaganda and conspiracy, and yet I'm the one who suffers from the Dunning–Kruger effect? Two Christs on the same bike, lad.

Have a word.
>> No. 418546 Anonymous
7th July 2018
Saturday 5:45 pm
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>> No. 418547 Anonymous
7th July 2018
Saturday 6:11 pm
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>>418545
>Why wasn't it referred to as the "I spoke to a member of my constituancy speech"?
That wouldn't distinguish it from the dozen or so such things that happen during almost every sitting in Parliament.
>> No. 418548 Anonymous
7th July 2018
Saturday 6:24 pm
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>>418547

I'll give you that, but the speech was utterly full of differentiating remarks and anecdotes, not to mention imagery. A more conservative media could easily have branded it the "Great betrayal" speech, for example.
>> No. 418550 Anonymous
7th July 2018
Saturday 7:33 pm
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>>418545

>You honestly manage to conflate propaganda and conspiracy, and yet I'm the one who suffers from the Dunning–Kruger effect? Two Christs on the same bike, lad.

We call believing something must be a piece of political propaganda with no evidence a conspiracy theory.
>> No. 418551 Anonymous
7th July 2018
Saturday 8:50 pm
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>>418545
>His reference to the river Tiber was more of a warning of what could come to pass (and has come to pass) if more sensible immigration policy was not put in place
His reference to the river Tiber was a quote from the Aeneid, referring to a prophesy that the Trojan immigrant Aeneas would see violence and war before peace and prosperity in what would become Rome. It's the complete opposite of what Powell was trying to use it to express.
>> No. 418552 Anonymous
8th July 2018
Sunday 1:04 am
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>>418316


HEY GUYS, HOW DO I GET LEFTY WING VIRTUE SIGNALS, NO BEHEADED WOMAN BALLOON WHEN I ARRIVE, IS IT BECAUSE I'M BROWN

AAGH i SEE YOU ARE IGNORANT, LIKE pale demons from beyond the ice STUPID, LIKE WOMEN.
>> No. 418556 Anonymous
8th July 2018
Sunday 3:08 am
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>>418552
Have you gone and had a stroke, you delerious twat?
>> No. 418557 Anonymous
8th July 2018
Sunday 4:06 am
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>>418556

I think this is Trump shill Whataboutism.
>> No. 418558 Anonymous
8th July 2018
Sunday 4:35 am
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>>418550
> We call believing something must be a piece of political propaganda with no evidence a conspiracy theory.


No, we don't. That's not what a conspiracy is you total fucking automated lunar cooking appliance. It might be a bit nutty, or even a bit thick, but it has absolutely fuck all to do with conspiracy. Christ, you really are as thick as dogshit in Doncaster.
>> No. 418559 Anonymous
8th July 2018
Sunday 4:38 am
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>>418551

Interesting. I assume that this was what was being referred to in >>418476 ?

Would it be utterly naive of me to suggest that it throws doubt on what he actually was trying to express?
>> No. 418560 Anonymous
8th July 2018
Sunday 4:41 am
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>>418552
Don't be silly, the radical left are far too scared to protest people that aren't white. Accusations of dolphin rape, no matter how febrile, could shatter their self-perception of inarguable moral superiority. Presumably that's why they can never bring themselves to march against, oh I don't know, Female Genital Mutilation.
>> No. 418561 Anonymous
8th July 2018
Sunday 5:27 am
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>>418558

Thats just what a left wing shill WOULD say.
>> No. 418562 Anonymous
8th July 2018
Sunday 7:27 am
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>>418561
That's just what a right wing shill WOULD say.
>> No. 418563 Anonymous
8th July 2018
Sunday 10:31 am
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>>418562

I know you are, but what am I?
>> No. 418564 Anonymous
8th July 2018
Sunday 10:53 am
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>>418559l

Other lad was being deliberately slightly misleading with the way he explained the story. When Virgil wrote the text he was very deliberate in the challenges that they over come to found Rome. Enemies of the Romans had defeated in real life litter the encounters and they are rejected because their cultures are not the Romans way, the Romans are not a group that yield to others values they set the terms and their culture of laws, religion and not being afraid to fight for it is drilled in as being sacred they are uncompromising in their values.


That is what Powell probably intended in the speech. To express the need to hold on to the idea of keeping Britain British.
>> No. 418565 Anonymous
8th July 2018
Sunday 11:17 am
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>>418564
Apart from when they suddenly change to Christianity.
>> No. 418569 Anonymous
8th July 2018
Sunday 1:26 pm
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>>418565

That was hundreds of years later. And it wasn't that sudden, the romans had a culture of belief that might makes right and victory shows that the gods are in your favour, so when Constantine started winning whilst proclaiming his Christianity, the Romans considered it was a sign that was the correct belief, in many ways it is one of the smallest social shifts to happen to the romans. Especially when you consider that within 10 years of Virgil’s writing during the Roman Republic that had lasted for 500 year a man called Caser would get stabbed in the senate and a young man called Gaius Octavius Thurinus would become known simply as Augustus.
>> No. 418571 Anonymous
8th July 2018
Sunday 3:53 pm
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>>418564

Thanks lad. That's food for thought for me because while I obviously abhor the idea of the "there's gonna be a race war lads" interpretation of the phrase "Rivers of Blood", I was also largely brought up to abhor the "keep Britain British" train of thought (and to follow more of a "live and let live" philosophy) but when abroad to follow the dictum "when in Rome do as the Romans", which this obviously links back too.

Sage for confused half-nonsense posting, but thank you for your post lad.
>> No. 418573 Anonymous
8th July 2018
Sunday 5:20 pm
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>>418571
There is a hint of the race war narrative in the original at the point where Powell quoted it, but the key aspect is that it is not specific as to whose blood it is. One can assume that as this is given as a warning to Aeneas, who is an outsider, that it's not native Lavinian blood. Remember that the Aeneid is sort of an origin story for Rome (Aeneas is an ancestor of Romulus and Remus), so at the time of its setting there are no Romans yet.

General consensus among actual classicists, as opposed to us pseudo-intellectual pretenders on the internet, is that Powell's characterisation is either misleading or wildly misapprehended.
>> No. 418655 Anonymous
13th July 2018
Friday 7:34 pm
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Disappointing lack of rumps but overall a good turnout.
>> No. 418658 Anonymous
13th July 2018
Friday 8:14 pm
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>>418655

Like >>418335 and others said, this is definitely a protest solely for the cause of making yourself look/feel superior. Look how clever our signs are, look how funny we are, look how righteous we are.

I'm all for protest and Trump is obviously a fuckwit, but having a 'wittiest placard' parade feels just as self serving as his twitter feed.

Apparently the giant baby thing made him feel unwelcome, so at least there's that.
>> No. 418659 Anonymous
13th July 2018
Friday 8:29 pm
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That Trump balloon looks utterly pathetic. I'm starting to suspect that it cost about £200 and someone has pocketed the rest of the donations.
>> No. 418660 Anonymous
13th July 2018
Friday 8:33 pm
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>>418655
>overall a good turnout

Wasn't the prediction for thousands to turn up?
>> No. 418661 Anonymous
13th July 2018
Friday 8:35 pm
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It's the most pathetic protest I can remember.
>> No. 418662 Anonymous
13th July 2018
Friday 8:36 pm
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>>418661
Typical crusty rent-a-mob.
>> No. 418663 Anonymous
13th July 2018
Friday 8:42 pm
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>>418659

I don't know if it's deliberate depending on which paper each photo is destined for, or just a consequence of telephoto vs wide lens, but different images have made it look either much smaller or bigger than it really is.

It's apparently 19 foot tall.
>> No. 418664 Anonymous
13th July 2018
Friday 8:43 pm
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>>418660
Good to see the zombie pride movement is making good progress.
>> No. 418665 Anonymous
13th July 2018
Friday 8:55 pm
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>>418660
And they did. What's your point?
>> No. 418667 Anonymous
13th July 2018
Friday 9:00 pm
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>>418659

There were smaller replicas doing the rounds too, mate.
>> No. 418670 Anonymous
13th July 2018
Friday 9:12 pm
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>>418667
Small... Far away.
Small... Far away.
>> No. 418671 Anonymous
13th July 2018
Friday 9:13 pm
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>>418660

Christ. Can't wait to see this in foreigns papers with the caption 'Ordinary Brits out in force against Trump'. If the Tangerine Tyrant saw this himself you can bet he'd be even more confident than ever that he's on the right track.
>> No. 418673 Anonymous
13th July 2018
Friday 9:17 pm
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>>418665
That you and your filthy pals wasted everyones time (including those of the police) on your nonsense that was never intended to do anything but aggravate Britain's diplomatic relations.
>> No. 418674 Anonymous
13th July 2018
Friday 9:24 pm
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>>418660

That photo is fucikng disgusting. What are those things?
>> No. 418675 Anonymous
13th July 2018
Friday 9:27 pm
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>>418673

>including those of the police

Do you suppose the police wouldn't have been knocking about for a presidential visit otherwise?
>> No. 418678 Anonymous
13th July 2018
Friday 9:39 pm
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>>418675
Considering they have been mobilised in numbers not seen since the 2011 London riots, yes. Do you somehow think that protests don't impact police numbers?
>> No. 418679 Anonymous
13th July 2018
Friday 10:08 pm
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>>418678

I thought nobody showed up?
>> No. 418680 Anonymous
13th July 2018
Friday 10:40 pm
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>>418671
You frightened of the big scary drag queens lad?

You realise these people are out in all their finery precisely because Trump represents the kind of Christian-value fascism that considers them abominations?
>> No. 418681 Anonymous
13th July 2018
Friday 10:44 pm
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>>418680
Because they are.
>> No. 418682 Anonymous
13th July 2018
Friday 10:49 pm
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>>418681

How does it feel to be so embarrassingly outdated?
>> No. 418683 Anonymous
13th July 2018
Friday 10:54 pm
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>>418680
>you frightened?

Seriously, lad?

Dolling yourself up as a drag queen is a madcap, gender-bendery lark. They look ridiculous. This protest revolved around a depiction of Trump as someone childish and screaming for attention. Is it really a good idea to make yourself look as laughable and infantile as possible while making this parody?

If I want to make a serious point in a protest I'll dress seriously, not so everyone will instead be gawping at my 3AM Sunday Best. This doesn't do much to challenge the criticism that the protesters are just a bunch of vain, empty-headed rentamobs hoping to get instagram likes for being right-on and [i]fabulous.
>> No. 418684 Anonymous
13th July 2018
Friday 11:00 pm
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>>418683
What does enforcing a dress code have to do with opposing bigotry and hatred? Why would anyone care what someone who wanted them to be discriminated against and to live in fear (or worse) for who they are care at all about what that person thought of their outfit?
>> No. 418685 Anonymous
13th July 2018
Friday 11:07 pm
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>>418684
Somewhat autistic really.

'Well I for one don't think I look silly! So the millions of people I hope will watch my protest will in no way take me less seriously!'

Look, I'm sure you ended up in a few photos and enjoyed a few drinks while doing nothing that will affect Trump or his actions or his perceptions in any way whatsoever. You got what you wanted. Mission accomplished, report back to base.
>> No. 418686 Anonymous
13th July 2018
Friday 11:22 pm
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>>418685

The reason they protested is because Trump and his ilk don't want people to be able to dress in drag or be trans or even be gay because they think it's an abomination or whatever you want to call it, so dressing like that is part of the protest, you numpty.

I honestly can't believe I've had to explain that to you.
>> No. 418687 Anonymous
13th July 2018
Friday 11:35 pm
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>>418686
When has Trump ever said anything derogatory about drag queens then, you bigger numpty?
>> No. 418688 Anonymous
13th July 2018
Friday 11:38 pm
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>>418682
You weirdos are the odd ones out mate.
>> No. 418689 Anonymous
14th July 2018
Saturday 12:15 am
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>>418685
You're still not getting it. It's a puzzle that solves itself. Anyone who would tell someone else what to wear is a person whose opinion of what people wear doesn't matter and couldn't ever matter. It's that simple.
>> No. 418690 Anonymous
14th July 2018
Saturday 12:25 am
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>> No. 418691 Anonymous
14th July 2018
Saturday 12:27 am
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>>418687

Yeah, being against Mexicans and Musulmanics roonin your country doesn't automatically mean you want to send the gays to the gas chambers.

What really makes me wonder is why there aren't more gay racists. It would be in their interests to keep eskimos and other migrants from 3rd world countries out because they tend to be deeply homophobic and their medieval ideologies don't really mix well with our progressive and wonderfully tolerant society.
>> No. 418692 Anonymous
14th July 2018
Saturday 12:30 am
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>>418691
Cultural Marxism, innit. I wonder who could be pulling the strings in the background?
>> No. 418693 Anonymous
14th July 2018
Saturday 12:32 am
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>>418683

Have you ever heard of the gay charity Stonewall? They're named after the Stonewall Inn, a Mafia-owned gay bar in New York that became the epicentre of the first substantial protests for gay rights. The bar had been regularly and violently raided by the police, but on the 28th of June 1969, the patrons fought back. The police cleared the bar with batons, then barricaded themselves inside.

A crowd of hundreds gathered - gays, lesbians, drag queens, street kids and miscallaneous outcasts, all fighting back against the police force that had abused them time and time again. By all accounts, it was the drag queens who fought the hardest. One group formed an impromptu chorus line, dancing the can-can and singing "we are the Stonewall girls, we wear our hair in curls, we wear no underwear, we show our pubic hair".

Rioting and protests continued for several days; within a week, a group of activists formed the Gay Liberation Front, the first organisation in the world for openly gay people to fight openly for their rights. Within months, branches of the Gay Liberation Front had opened across America and Europe. A year to the day after the Stonewall riots, the first ever gay pride marches were organised in Chicago, Los Angeles and San Francisco.

We will never forget the Stonewall girls. Every LGBT person in the western world owes a debt of gratitude to the sissies and queens who landed the first blow in the fight for equality. The drag queens fought for us, so we will fight for them. If you have a problem with them, then we have a problem with you. We are not asking for your approval - we are demanding our rights.

Trump has made numerous overtly homophobic statements. His cabinet is filled with overtly homophobic staff. He has supported homophobic policies. If the queens want to protest his visit to Britain, then they have my full support.
>> No. 418694 Anonymous
14th July 2018
Saturday 2:04 am
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>>418693
Brings a tear to me japs eye.
>> No. 418697 Anonymous
14th July 2018
Saturday 7:24 am
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Not even Brenda is immune from Trump. 15 minutes late to meet her then he walks off ahead of her to inspect the troops.
>> No. 418698 Anonymous
14th July 2018
Saturday 8:12 am
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>>418682
There is a difference between being gay and dressing yourself up as a sexual deviant at 10am while also being gay.
>> No. 418700 Anonymous
14th July 2018
Saturday 9:46 am
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>>418698

If you're always a sexual deviant even even you're not doing sexually deviant things, and when you're not you're dressed like everyone else, then that means that that's what a sexual deviant is dressed like which means everyone is always dressed like a sexual deviant.
>> No. 418701 Anonymous
14th July 2018
Saturday 10:25 am
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>>418698
'Deviant' is a social construct, an othering term. Pride marches are, in part, to show people of diverse sexualities and genders that they aren't alone. Hence, if loads of people are being deviants then logically they can't possibly be considered deviants.
>> No. 418703 Anonymous
14th July 2018
Saturday 10:27 am
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>>418698


You still don't get it do you? LGBT isn't about 'changing peoples minds', gay people couldn't give less of a fuck what middle american christians think of them at this point.

You are one of the people they are setting out to piss off, and it's working perfectly. You're being trolled by the gays.
>> No. 418705 Anonymous
14th July 2018
Saturday 10:52 am
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>>418701
>Pride marches are, in part, to show people of diverse sexualities and genders that they aren't alone.

As a bi-lad Pride does more harm than good. It's brilliant at perpetuating the image that people who aren't straight are freaks and oddballs.
>> No. 418706 Anonymous
14th July 2018
Saturday 11:08 am
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>>418703
Stop fucking crying if its intentional then.
>> No. 418707 Anonymous
14th July 2018
Saturday 11:22 am
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>>418705
Pretty much this
>> No. 418711 Anonymous
14th July 2018
Saturday 1:42 pm
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>>418705
You're probably also the bi-lad who thinks that a song that portrays bisexuality as 'being straight and having gay sex as a kink' isn't harmful so your opinions are pretty bunkum anyway.

It's apparently really important to you that you know your place as a well-behaved bisexual who can pass as straight when necessary and keep your disgusting same-sex perversions behind closed doors where it belongs.
>> No. 418712 Anonymous
14th July 2018
Saturday 1:51 pm
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>>418711
>It's apparently really important to you that you know your place as a well-behaved bisexual who can pass as straight when necessary and keep your disgusting same-sex perversions behind closed doors where it belongs

I'm a person who happens to be bisexual, rather than letting my sexuality define me.

There is a huge world of difference between unashamedly having a sexual preference for other men and walking around in public in bondage gear whilst being adorned with several plastic cocks. I have a bit of a thing for rimming but I have no desire whatsoever to wander around in public decorated with an array of puckering arseholes.
>> No. 418714 Anonymous
14th July 2018
Saturday 2:19 pm
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>>418712
>I'm a person who happens to be bisexual, rather than letting my sexuality define me.

I am a person who happens to be black, rather than letting my blackness define me.

Unfortunately, other people will define me by my blackness whether I ever decide to "play the race card" or not. I can either kid myself that they don't and sit there agreeing with the "He's alright, but why can't he shave his hair off, it'd look so much more professional" crowd doing tricks for them in the hope of winning their approval.

Or....

I can tell them to go fuck themselves and do whatever I was going to do anyway.
>> No. 418716 Anonymous
14th July 2018
Saturday 2:58 pm
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>>418712
It doesn't matter whether or not you choose to express your own sexuality in a different fashion, you should be expressing solidarity with your community, not divisively pouring scorn on it. Because you know damn well they will come for you next.
>> No. 418721 Anonymous
14th July 2018
Saturday 4:38 pm
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>>418716
They're not 'his community' though, they're just other people who happen to be bisexual.

Who is 'they' anyway?

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