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>> No. 420040 Anonymous
7th September 2018
Friday 8:48 pm
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Time for a new weekend thread.

How goes it, lads?
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>> No. 420041 Anonymous
7th September 2018
Friday 9:13 pm
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Quiet night in for me tonight. Have to go help a friend collect a fridge tomorrow morning that he bought on gumtree. It's one of those American type giant fridge-freezer combos with two doors. You could probably stash one or two bodies in it and nobody would ever know. So we're going there tomorrow morning to pick it up from the lad who is selling his used one.
>> No. 420042 Anonymous
7th September 2018
Friday 9:19 pm
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Van blew up on way home from a long day at work, just been AA'd home with a hole in the radiator. Vet's been, massive bill inbound for horse with new long term diagnosis. Thousand jobs lined up for the weekend. Whinge thoroughly ticked.
>> No. 420043 Anonymous
7th September 2018
Friday 9:39 pm
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>>420041
>we're going there tomorrow morning to pick it up from the lad who is selling his used one.

He's probably pissed in the water filter or ice cube mechanism.
>> No. 420044 Anonymous
7th September 2018
Friday 10:22 pm
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>>420043

It's apparently good as new. My friend said something that the seller has only had it for about a year and really didn't use it much because he was out of the country work wise a lot. And now apparently he's moving to France and naturally doesn't want to burden himself with getting a fridge the size of a compact car across to France. I don't know, my friend has the details.
>> No. 420045 Anonymous
7th September 2018
Friday 10:43 pm
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I'm coding a little doodad I can show to a prospective employer on Monday morning so it's a quiet weekend in for me too. I had a nice session at the gym tonight too since I was the only person there for the last hour and they let me control the sound system. For a brief while instead of light, radio-friendly electronica I got to listen to Pantera and Death Grips - feel free to tell me how awful my taste in music is.

Otherwise I'm a bit lonely and short of cash. Same as half the people in the world I suppose.
>> No. 420046 Anonymous
7th September 2018
Friday 11:19 pm
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>>420045

>I had a nice session at the gym tonight too since I was the only person there for the last hour and they let me control the sound system. For a brief while instead of light, radio-friendly electronica I got to listen to Pantera and Death Grips

At my gym, it really depends. During the day, where it's mostly housewives and single mums frequenting the place, they play 90s boy band music and other stuff from that era. Their daytime staff mainly consists of two male middle aged fitness instructors who also run the place, and three late 20s to early 30something women. Then in the evening, their staff tends to be annoyingly young, early 20s unilads and lasses. That kind of thing. And with that, depending on whose shift it is that night, you either get obscure guitar rock indie music (and obscure not in a good way), or some really weird electronic-dance-techno.

So I basically just keep my headphones on during my exercise and listen to my own playlists.
>> No. 420047 Anonymous
7th September 2018
Friday 11:36 pm
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>>420046

The staff at mine are quite nice in that they always tailor the music to whoever's there instead of just subjecting people to their own fancy. You can tell if there are women in the gym because it'll be the soft-techno-with-vocals stuff I mentioned before. If there are older gentlemen around it'll be classic dadrock and some more musical metal, both of which I'm very amenable to. It's evident when uni-age lifters are the only patrons because they play nu-metal. I don't really mind that either since nu-metal is now old-metal and hence they only know the handful of songs that were actually decent. And they mix in some metalcore and whatnot here and there, it does make a better atmosphere for lifting. The millionaire commies of RATM are always welcome.

In an odd way tonight reminded me of a metal nightclub I used to frequent as a teenlad, occasionally it would be so empty me and the m8s could just request whatever the hell we wanted no matter the obscurity. It's not every day you get a whole gym echoing with Strapping Young Lad.
>> No. 420048 Anonymous
8th September 2018
Saturday 12:15 am
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>>420047
>I don't really mind that either since nu-metal is now old-metal and hence they only know the handful of songs that were actually decent

I don't know about that. They seem to listen to bands from that era that people at the time wouldn't be seen dead listening to, like Good Charlotte. Is history being rewritten to make it seem like people actually liked them?
>> No. 420049 Anonymous
8th September 2018
Saturday 12:27 am
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Just had a look around the folders that Firefox uses to store browser history information on your hard drive. And that has really reached an impressive extent with Firefox updates the last few years. It used to be that you only had a handful of single flat files called cookies.sqlite or places.sqlite. But now, there are nearly a dozen different folders and subfolders to delete if you want to sanitise your browser, plus close to a dozen tracking files.

Just deleting your history within Firefox is not a safe way to get rid of your sensitive browser history data. On my laptop here, I use a wipe programme where I can manually select files and folders that I want wiped, to make sure they aren't just deleted for explorer access but physically overwritten.
>> No. 420051 Anonymous
8th September 2018
Saturday 2:17 am
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>>420049
Who are you trying to hide your porn habits from? The government already know (by way of your ISP) and unless your partner happens to work for them they're not going to be able to get past straight wiping, even if they did get access to your account, since you've created them a separate account because OPSEC 101.

Also, if you're on an SSD then "physically overwritten" doesn't even work as you'd expect it to anyway.

Tip to SSD users: if you're going to partition it, get your sizing right, because shrinking a partition on an SSD can turn into a world of hurt.
>> No. 420053 Anonymous
8th September 2018
Saturday 12:47 pm
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>>420051

This is for my old 11'' laptop which still has a conventional hard disk drive. I still go places with it, and it's usually what I take on holidays with me (I don't like tablets, because as soon as I do anything more than surf the web, it really annoys me to have no physical keyboard). So I have an interest in sanitising my laptop so that if it does get lost or somebody nicks it, they don't get to see what places I have visited on the Internet.

I have been thinking about getting an SSD for the laptop, because that might speed it up a little. Although it's full HD certified, it sometimes seems out of its depth juggling ripped Blu-ray movies with other tasks running in the background.

You are right though that wiping on SSDs is a whole different kettle of fish. Depending on the firmware's wear levelling algorithm, there is no guarantee at all that overwriting a deleted file will really remove all traces of it. Because the SSD will scatter any write commands it receives from the operating system all about the SSD's memory cells, as the general concept of wear levelling means that it tries to wear out all memory cells on it evenly.

One thing you can still do is delete files from the recycle bin and then wipe the free disk space on your system partition. This will again not overwrite 100 percent of your free disk space, as the operating system still needs a margin of free memory on your disk to function. But the chances are pretty high that that will destroy your deleted files for good.
>> No. 420054 Anonymous
8th September 2018
Saturday 1:16 pm
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Those mountains are all over the fucking place.
>> No. 420056 Anonymous
8th September 2018
Saturday 1:44 pm
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I had been drinking for the whole evening/night until about 02:00. Woke up in the morning, yet again with that strange 'What I am? Why I am? Why? For what?' feeling.

It accompanies me for the every single wake up after a long drinking night. I've never figured out an answer to it.

It was raining in the morning. That only amplified the overall atmosphere of incompleteness, melancholy and suspense.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kilHObJfFqA
>> No. 420057 Anonymous
8th September 2018
Saturday 1:54 pm
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>>420053

>so that if it does get lost or somebody nicks it, they don't get to see what places I have visited on the Internet.

Encryption would surely be a better move than this deleting ritual you're currently involved in?
>> No. 420058 Anonymous
8th September 2018
Saturday 2:23 pm
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>>420057
It's best not to use persistent encryption in the UK because if you lose the keys/forget the passphrase then you can go to prison for years.
>> No. 420059 Anonymous
8th September 2018
Saturday 2:28 pm
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Wow, so the old couple next door have got the grand kids round and the walls are very, very thin. I know this because said kids are massively fond of a really, shockingly repetitive, acoustic pop song. Then again, anything would get repetitive after two dozen back-to-back listens.

Sounds like the chorus is "who we are, who we are, who we are", then something about beauty queens and magazines, if anyone's interested.

I might kill myself.
>> No. 420060 Anonymous
8th September 2018
Saturday 2:38 pm
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>>420059

>I might kill myself.

Try this instead.


>> No. 420061 Anonymous
8th September 2018
Saturday 2:48 pm
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I just got awarded a fantastic contract, the biggest and most interesting I've had since I went self-employed.

So I'm off into The City to treat myself to a new (or preowned) watch, quite possibly a Rolex Master II GMT, if anyone happens to have a nice example on the books. We'll see.

Anyway, I'm wearing trackies and a hoodie so I'm hoping to be snubbed by the salespeople and pull a Pretty Woman on them. I might even lay my northern accent on thicker than usual.
>> No. 420062 Anonymous
8th September 2018
Saturday 2:57 pm
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>>420058

As much as I hate to admit it, but it's really best to keep your hard drive unencrypted when you are passing through border security in a foreign country. You will inevitably raise flags if they search your laptop or other device and it's encrypted and you refuse to provide the key/password.

To stay under the radar, it is therefore better to just make sure than when you are travelling, there is nothing incriminating on your laptop. Hence my opinion that wiping sensitive files (on conventional HDDs) is better than encrypting the entire volume.

But you have to be careful how far you take it. I've read recently that it now also raises flags with U.S. border protection if they see you with either a laptop or tablet that has been completely reinstalled just before you went on your trip, or an all new device with nothing on it, like a smartphone. They will assume that you are trying to hide information from them that way. So in summary, it's really best to travel with a laptop or device that has seen some use, but from which you have carefully deleted any and all data that you don't want in the hands of a foreign government.

I've got a friend who travels to the U.S. job wise about every two months (he works for a major British company), and guidelines at his company require that sensitive data and company secrets are permanently deleted from a laptop's hard drive before passing through U.S. border security. Once in the country, the data can then be downloaded again via an encrypted connection off the company's servers here in the UK. This is based on the suspicion that the U.S. government cannot be trusted not to pass vital business secrets on to U.S. competitors. Apparently, the risk of somebody hacking their UK based download servers is seen as less serious than the risk of U.S. border protection seizing company secrets and passing them on.
>> No. 420063 Anonymous
8th September 2018
Saturday 3:24 pm
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>>420053
>So I have an interest in sanitising my laptop so that if it does get lost or somebody nicks it, they don't get to see what places I have visited on the Internet.
I think you might need to rethink your threat model there. Unless you're some kind of high-value target, the best value someone's going to get from nicking your laptop is selling it on, and they almost certainly won't care about your internet history.
>> No. 420064 Anonymous
8th September 2018
Saturday 3:25 pm
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>>420060
Those fucking sharks.
>> No. 420065 Anonymous
8th September 2018
Saturday 3:48 pm
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>>420061
Congratulations lad.
>> No. 420066 Anonymous
8th September 2018
Saturday 4:00 pm
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>>420061
>I might even lay my northern accent on thicker than usual

I've noticed that my accent ends up broader whenever I'm in London; everything that's been softened by moving town about five years ago suddenly comes flooding back the moment I leave King's Cross.
>> No. 420067 Anonymous
8th September 2018
Saturday 4:13 pm
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>>420066
Oh God I have this. I'm from the Midlands and although my accent is mostly RP due to upbringing when I'm in London the regional part gets amplified by a thousand. It's somehow nice sounding a bit rougher around the edges.

Meanwhile in America I basically turn into Colin Firth.
>> No. 420068 Anonymous
8th September 2018
Saturday 4:15 pm
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>>420064

Alright, how about a palate cleanser?


>> No. 420069 Anonymous
8th September 2018
Saturday 4:16 pm
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>>420066

I think people just notice it more. In the north west, everyone thinks I sound posh; down south, people make jokes about me nicking hub caps.
>> No. 420070 Anonymous
8th September 2018
Saturday 5:04 pm
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>>420067

>Meanwhile in America I basically turn into Colin Firth.

I like the perplexed look on the faces of Murrikins when I let loose in my Norf London accent and they understand zip. One thing people got a kick out of when I was over there was a fake, exaggerated upper class accent that I put on for them. They said it sounded "right out of a Charles Dickens play". Oh well.

I was born and raised in North London, but living in Nottingham now, I have adopted a more nondescript accent in everyday life. With a typical middle management desk job, a heavy North London accent would be kind of a hindrance.
>> No. 420071 Anonymous
8th September 2018
Saturday 5:23 pm
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>>420066>>420067

I'm the same. I never had a particularly broad accent (I'm from Newcastle) but it was certainly identifiable, and when I moved to Leeds I found myself toning it down as the Yorkshirefolk - and more commonly the posh southerners that all got in to LCM with me - wouldn't understand me sometimes. Now people are usually surprised when I say I'm a geordie, apparently I just have a fairly neutral but vaguely northern accent.

But you're right, once I get into London, something happens, it just comes back out, the proper geordie twang I haven't spoken in since I was about 13.

I honestly think it's the inbuilt, genetic, northern prejudice against southerners. We put on our best, broadest twang, just to make sure those London bastards know that we're invading their city. I don't actually have any sort of problem with southern people, I think it's just instinctual.
>> No. 420072 Anonymous
8th September 2018
Saturday 5:32 pm
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>>420065

Cheers lad.

Only downside is, I'm going to be too busy to fuck about on the internet for a while, so expect there to be a huge drop in posting rates to not notice my absence.
>> No. 420073 Anonymous
8th September 2018
Saturday 5:45 pm
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>>420070
Hey me too. Let's meet up. Norf London Notts Ex-Pats!
>> No. 420074 Anonymous
8th September 2018
Saturday 6:10 pm
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What's the best way to learn to draw properly?

I never really enjoyed art at school but I've always been a bit of a doodler and I think I'd like to have a crack of either turning it into a hobby or just see what I can do to try and improve at it. I'm guessing either an art class, books or something online like YouTube. It's only really drawing I'd like to improve at; I had a go at sketching a giraffe this afternoon and you can probably tell from the half-arsed colouring that I don't have the patience for painting

>>420071
>when I moved to Leeds

It took me about three years of working in Leeds before I started saying things like "it wa" and "not a right lot". It I ever start calling people love or using us instead of we/our then I'll go and off myself.
>> No. 420075 Anonymous
8th September 2018
Saturday 6:13 pm
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5axAu3Nxogg

(warning: listening to them will do your fuckin head in)
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8th September 2018
Saturday 6:17 pm
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>>420075
>(warning: listening to them will do your fuckin head in)

Like a sixth sense, I could tell that just from the thumbnail.
>> No. 420077 Anonymous
8th September 2018
Saturday 6:23 pm
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>>420076

Yeah.

Teenage girls can be annoying.

Who knew.
>> No. 420078 Anonymous
8th September 2018
Saturday 6:55 pm
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>>420061

What I don't understand is expensive watches. Half past four is half past four whether it's on a 5.99 Home Bargains kitchen clock or a 10K Rolex.
>> No. 420079 Anonymous
8th September 2018
Saturday 7:01 pm
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>>420075
The best attempt at an accent is Jesy from Little Mix speaking Jamaican.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOJNk7YiE7c
>> No. 420081 Anonymous
8th September 2018
Saturday 7:23 pm
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>>420078
Half past four will soon be quarter to five on the Home Bargains job though. Not him but as a male who is too inhibited to wear jewelery I am rather fond of poncy watches as a discreet kind of flashiness.
>> No. 420082 Anonymous
8th September 2018
Saturday 8:14 pm
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>>420081
> I am rather fond of poncy watches as a discreet kind of flashiness

Discretion is key. I've worked with a number of businessmen with expensive watches that aren't ostentatious and don't really try to draw attention to them. On the other hand, I went to uni with a Tory boy who had a ridiculously oversized TAG watch worth several grand and he'd regularly do things like telling any girl who rejected him that the watch was worth more than she was and he could own her if he really wanted to.
>> No. 420083 Anonymous
8th September 2018
Saturday 8:20 pm
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>>420081
Mechanical watches are inherently inaccurate whether they're sold by Home Bargains or by Rolex. It's entirely expected a mechanical Rolex will be out by minutes after a couple of months.
>> No. 420084 Anonymous
8th September 2018
Saturday 8:34 pm
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>>420078

I've been a fan of watches in general for years, specifically automatic ones. The fact that they're such complex pieces of machinery really appeals to me, and the attention to detail in a top-flight watch makes me very happy. I'd be the first to admit there's no real use for a watch that pricey - most people won't even notice your watch let alone the brand or heritage - apart from it being an enjoyable thing to own.

Functionally, my phone's clock will always be more accurate than any watch I ever buy, and the logical watch to own would be one that is update via radio with an atomic clock. But that's not really the point. It's the one and only piece of jewellery I'll ever wear, so I might as well have nice ones.

The honest truth about Rolex and Omega etc is that they're expensive because they're expensive, that's undeniably part of the charm. Most of the watches in my collection are, in the watch world, very cheap - probably my favourite watch in the world is my Seiko Monster. It's accurate enough and genuinely better made than some of the stuff Rolex were spitting out in the 90s, and cost me £150.

A lot of watch collectors obsess about the accurate timekeeping on their watches, to the extent that they use an app that records the watch ticking away over a certain amount of time, to see if it's slow or fast - and the more expensive the (automatic) watch, the more accurate that will be. It's a genuine concern for people using divers watches to actually, you know, dive, but for most it's just another thing to be nerdy about.

If you want to know why I personally want to drop 7 grand on a Rolex (that's how much the GMT will cost me) It's partly because I just really like watches and enjoy looking at them during my day, partly because I saw the father figures in my life get 'nice watches' for certain milestones in their careers, so that's stuck with me, and partly because ten years ago when I was stuck in some horrible kitchen somewhere, with some arsehole manager shouting at me because I was wearing my little black plastic casio on the line, despite it being rather handy for keeping track of timings since his oven was fucked and wouldn't time itself. And I remember thinking then, some day I'll have a job where it's not a big drama when I wear a fucking watch to work.

TL;DR - veblen goods
>> No. 420085 Anonymous
8th September 2018
Saturday 8:58 pm
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>>420074

Either Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain by Betty Edwards or Keys to Drawing by Bert Dodson.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Drawing-Right-Brain-Betty-Edwards/dp/1585429201/

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Keys-Drawing-Bert-Dodson/dp/0891343377/

https://libgen.pw/item/detail/id/5a1f055d3a044650f50fbabb

https://libgen.pw/item/detail/id/5a1f04db3a044650f506ec33

>>420082

Patek Philippe being the obvious example - they're some of the most expensive watches on the new market, but most people would have no idea.

>>420083

George Daniels built several mechanical watches that could keep better time than a quartz watch. No watch will beat your phone at timekeeping (the internal clock is disciplined to an atomic clock via GPS), but that's not really the point.
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8th September 2018
Saturday 9:04 pm
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>>420081

>I am rather fond of poncy watches as a discreet kind of flashiness

Thanks for the answer lad. I'd be more concerned about all those doctors on scooters that perform instant surgery on the road like.
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8th September 2018
Saturday 9:08 pm
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>>420084
But you have to perform maintenance on your phone every single day or it will stop telling the time.
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8th September 2018
Saturday 9:11 pm
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>>420084

Well put lad, thanks for the 'time' you put into my question

I live in Calderdale, I wouldn't question a mountain bike at 4k

It's all about the fun and joy it brings :)
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8th September 2018
Saturday 9:27 pm
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>>420088

You still have to 'charge' a mechanical watch, you just happen to do it by wearing it.
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8th September 2018
Saturday 9:37 pm
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>>420090

>I live in Calderdale, I wouldn't question a mountain bike at 4k

True enough. I've certainly spent more on mountain and road bikes (and so, so much more on cars, cameras, and music gear, come to think of it) than I ever will on watches. They're certainly the lowest priority on the list of crap I spend my money on - which is daft really, as many of the legendary brands hold their value very well. I'd be the first to admit they're hardly functional. At least you could still get to work or the shops on your Saracen.

If I ever have kids, I'll call it an heirloom.
>> No. 420093 Anonymous
8th September 2018
Saturday 10:09 pm
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Where the heck are you getting this cash? I'll shift you gear if that's what's going on, just give me a cut. You can gawp at watches all day and I'll run product, no bother.
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8th September 2018
Saturday 10:33 pm
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>>420093

Hard work and graft with a little bit of desire, usually. Something that socialists don't understand. You have to put in the hard Yakka. Want a fucking expensive mountain bike? Fucking graft it lad.
>> No. 420095 Anonymous
8th September 2018
Saturday 11:03 pm
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>>420094
I meant what kind of area do you work in, what qualifications have you got. But it's good to know you can be a bit of a dickhead and still make loadsa' money, stupid cunt.
>> No. 420096 Anonymous
8th September 2018
Saturday 11:03 pm
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I've never really seen the point of uber expensive watches either, tbh.

Yes, you probably don't want to be seen wearing a £10 watch from the centre aisle at Lidl. But you really don't have to spend a fortune to have a decent and visually appealing watch.

I have worn various Swatch Irony watches over the last 20 years, and they are very nice, stainless steel cased dependable quartz watches, some of them are even automatic with a mechanical movement. They can be had for around £85 to £160 depending on the model.

You snoblads may snort with derision and say that's still a cheaply made watch. But at least I don't have to worry about scratching it or somebody nicking it off me. And every three years or so, I buy a new one if they have a model that looks nice. They do make quite stylish watches.
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8th September 2018
Saturday 11:10 pm
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>>420096
I'd like to buy a nice simple Swiss Wenger watch, but I'm too concerned that people will keep trying to talk to me about Arsenal.
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8th September 2018
Saturday 11:31 pm
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>>420097

Those are nice watches also.

I guess with me it's just habit. I've had Swatch watches for as long as I can remember. Just went from one to the next every few years or so. I just like their general style. Their cheaper, standard watches in a plastic case and with plastic or vinyl straps look pretty shit (then again, they're only £45), but the stainless-steel Irony range, and preferably also with a stainless steel strap, really offers great value.
>> No. 420099 Anonymous
8th September 2018
Saturday 11:38 pm
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>>420049

You should write up a list of those file and folders so the rest of us can script cronjobs to wipe them, or whatever.

>>420053

Also consider running your browser in firejail (Linux) or Sandboxie (Windows). That way once your browsing session is done your whole profile is automatically wiped out. Obviously incognito mode etc helps too.

>>420062

Best practice is to have a "dadtop" image that you install and go through border controls with, then buy a new hdd, reimage that and download your working files from whatever company/cloud server you have them on. Once you're on your way home drop the new hdd into a river/canal/sewer (after a good wiping and a good proper battering, of course), pop your dadtop hdd back in, browse facebook for a bit then go home.

>>420070

Having grown up in North London myself I have no idea what "a heavy North London accent" would sound like; unless you mean some patois from somewhere ghastly like Willesden?
>> No. 420100 Anonymous
8th September 2018
Saturday 11:53 pm
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Watching "Glam Rock at the BBC" on BBC Four at the moment. Way before my time, but the very theatrical style of Glam Rock is really kind of amazing.

Oh... nice... "Starman" by David Bowie just came on...
>> No. 420101 Anonymous
8th September 2018
Saturday 11:53 pm
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>>420075
I dunno they aren't particularly annoying. Granted I can't take more than two minutes of that video, but I was laughing with them a few times, and they seem fun enough that I probably would have enjoyed having them as mates as a teenager.

Maybe you actually have to be from North London to think that though. Was it their accents doing your head in?
>> No. 420104 Anonymous
9th September 2018
Sunday 12:49 am
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>>420096

Most "proper" watch enthusiasts love watches, full stop. The only thing a watch nerd might turn his nose up at is something like a MVMT or Vincero or Micheal Kors watch, as they're bargain basement quartz movements and Chinese everything else, sold for hundreds. Probably every collector in the world loves the Seiko SKX, and that's cheaper than some of those swatches you mentioned.

There might well be snobs who think a cheap watch means one under two grand, but they're morons.
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9th September 2018
Sunday 1:25 am
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>>420093

I got a job as a dishwasher when I was about 20, because my mate worked there. Taught myself how to chop vegetables at home and then begged the head chef to let me work in the kitchen.

Then I turned out to be really quite good at it, got promoted a couple of times, bombarded the area chef with recipe ideas (this was encouraged by the company), learned everything I could about stock, profits, managing people etc, then begged the ops manager for my own restaurant to run despite only having been a sous chef for about 4 months.

Got given a site mostly as a token gesture, that was slated for closure in half a year, applied my apparent knack for profiteering and made the place worth keeping open again. Ran that place for a year longer than it was supposed to be open, got the area chef position off the back of that when the former area chef was promoted to executive. Did that for a while, until I suggested I'd be more useful as a country wide relief chef, whilst also assisting the exec (who loved me at this point) and focused on turning poor performing sites around while he focused on menus. Did that until the exec left and I just did both of those jobs for a bit, also dipping my toe into other brands owned by the company to dig them out a bit too.

Left there eventually as the overarching company was ruining the chain - still are. Did a few normal Head Chef jobs after that, as I felt I had more to learn on the independent side. Then I found a similar chain and started as executive there. It was mostly designing menus and that. It was running smoothly so I found I got bored.

Ran a couple more restaurants, in more traditional "shouting at Romanians" Ramsey type situations. Then I did some agency work, sold as a head/exec with a proven track record of bringing restaurants back from the dead. I was getting rather good hourly pay for doing that, and eventually realised I could start my own consultancy and get paid about five times more, so I did, and now I get paid to tell new and old restaurateurs alike what they're doing wrong, for money. Next step will be opening my own place(s), both as a legitimate venture and also a test bed and proving ground for more esoteric ideas I'd like to bring to people in the consultancy.

TL;DR: A bit of graft, a bit of skill, a bit of self starterism, and probably more than a bit of luck.

I think most success stories follow the same formula. My only advice would be to find something you're good at and make it work. I didn't want to be peeling fucking carrots forever so I identified my skills and worked on them until I offered someone nobody else in that kitchen could. I never wanted any of this, not really, but I realised I had to make the most of the hand I'd been dealt.
>> No. 420109 Anonymous
9th September 2018
Sunday 2:00 am
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>>420108

I really get the impression that in 10 years time you'll be a stonkingly-rich restaurant business mogul who'll be appearing in glossy newspaper magazine interviews.

I'll be combing those interviews for any subtle .gs references, of course. You could maybe chuck in that some lad at one of your gigs had the nickname Crabkiller.
>> No. 420110 Anonymous
9th September 2018
Sunday 2:25 am
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>>420109

I appreciate the sentiment, thanks m8.

I don't know if I would go so far as to agree. It's one thing to tell other people how to spend their money, quite another when it's yours/your investors dosh you're playing with. It might be more likely you'll find me in the papers, after I've hanged myself by my apron strings.

At one point a TV company was sniffing around the owner at one of the more fancy independents I worked at. It fell through, but I put a lot of thought into how I could work in .gs references if I had ended up on telly. This site has done a lot to keep me sane over the years, It'd only be fair.

Honestly, a great name for a gastropub, or indeed a national restaurant enterprise, would be the "British Food Association", or britfa for short. Too on the nose?
>> No. 420111 Anonymous
9th September 2018
Sunday 3:27 am
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>>420108
>begged the ops manager for my own restaurant to run
Never stand still,
>learned everything I could about stock, profits, managing people etc
never let anyone know how hard you work,
>bombarded the area chef with recipe ideas
get your work noticed,
>I suggested I'd be more useful as a country wide relief chef
carve out a niche for yourself.
>> No. 420112 Anonymous
9th September 2018
Sunday 3:52 am
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>>420111

I also have a really good handshake.
>> No. 420113 Anonymous
9th September 2018
Sunday 3:54 am
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>>420110
You could say you were an authority on British food, though Companies House might object if you tried to name it British Food Authority.
>> No. 420114 Anonymous
9th September 2018
Sunday 3:58 am
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>>420110

> I put a lot of thought into how I could work in .gs references if I had ended up on telly

No combination of the words pie, master, beefy, or loads came to mind?
>> No. 420115 Anonymous
9th September 2018
Sunday 3:58 am
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>>420113

I did wonder if I'd get away with it - I don't know if there's a legal definition of 'authority' or 'association', or if it'd be fine in the context of a name for a restaurant/chain. I'd expect Brita to tell me I couldn't use britfa either.

Of course the biggest hurdle would be getting the naming rights off marple. I'd have to give him free vegetables and red wine for life.

I'll sack it all off and launch a pie shop called ladmate's.
>> No. 420117 Anonymous
9th September 2018
Sunday 4:02 am
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>>420114


I was going to tell them I was a shed enthusiast, for sure. I also wondered if saying 'u wot m8' all the time would translate. Looking directly at the camera and referring to the demiglace as a 'big, beefy load' might have worked, mind. I'd have been the male N-igella. (fucking wordfilters, man)
>> No. 420119 Anonymous
9th September 2018
Sunday 4:10 am
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>>420117

"We make sure our pies are positively filled with great loads of beefiness; these are real pies. The type your grandpa would have had for lunch in his shed."

There, sign me up as executive producer. I'll have us all up in court for thinly veiled obscenity by the end of the week or your beefy load back.
>> No. 420120 Anonymous
9th September 2018
Sunday 4:14 am
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>>420119

We'd also have to hire someone with a specific name.

"Chef, I can't find the beetroot"

"How can't you fucking see it? It's marple, Aki!"
>> No. 420121 Anonymous
9th September 2018
Sunday 4:34 am
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>>420115
IIRC, it's not the "authority" they'd object to, but the "British".
>> No. 420122 Anonymous
9th September 2018
Sunday 4:48 am
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>>420121

There's a restaurant group called "George's Great British Kitchen", though admittedly the signage just says "George's". Or am I missing the point?
>> No. 420123 Anonymous
9th September 2018
Sunday 4:59 am
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>>420122
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/incorporation-and-names/annex-a-sensitive-words-and-expressions-or-words-that-could-imply-a-connection-with-government
Point 18, though by the looks of things you'd be fine if you stuck "The" before it so it's not the first word in the name.

According to the other annexes, they may take issue with "Association" or "Agency", but apparently "Authority" looks okay. Go bureaucracy!
>> No. 420124 Anonymous
9th September 2018
Sunday 6:57 am
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>>420122

It would be boastful if it said "George's Great Kitchen".
>> No. 420125 Anonymous
9th September 2018
Sunday 7:45 am
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>>420108
>Then I found a similar chain and started as executive there. It was mostly designing menus and that.

What is your view on the black pudding tower?
>> No. 420126 Anonymous
9th September 2018
Sunday 11:17 am
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>>420108

Somebody from my school went down a similar career path. He was a pizza delivery boy in year 12 while studying for his A levels. We then all belittled him because instead of seeking any kind of formal training after school or going to uni, he just stayed with that pizza place. What nobody expected was that a few years later, he was the co owner, and from that, he worked his way up and was at some point in a position to start his own small restaurant chain. If what I've heard is true, he now has a personal fortune of a few million quid and resides in a huge house in the Essex countryside.

Compare that to a few of my mates, who struggled to find full time employment at all with their sociology or biology degrees after uni.
>> No. 420129 Anonymous
9th September 2018
Sunday 4:03 pm
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>>420117
What does n-i-g wordfilter to? I don't habitually fill my posts with racial slurs so I'm unfamiliar with that one.

Also audible mirth at 'marple Aki'
>> No. 420130 Anonymous
9th September 2018
Sunday 4:12 pm
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>>420129
Automatic one hour ban.

I was quoting someone.
>> No. 420131 Anonymous
9th September 2018
Sunday 5:01 pm
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>>420125

It's a cynical indictment of the British working class. It looks like it was invented by a frenchman for the purposes of satire, but is really just what someone sadly concluded the dreck that visits Farmhouse Inns would enjoy.

Other 'Pubs with grub' on that sort of level, like Hungry Horse (same company), Ember inns, Sizzling, you know the ones - they all make sure you've got enough black pudding, beans, and chips on offer. For whatever reason, it's an unspoken fact in the industry that chavs love black pudding. The tower itself looks fucking disgusting, if you ask me, but it's better than the Hungry Horse doughnut burger, another cynical marketing ploy that is (was?) far more popular than it should have been.

That end of the market is frankly a bit horrifying. I only worked in it tangentially, but it was enough.
>> No. 420132 Anonymous
9th September 2018
Sunday 5:03 pm
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>>420129

I think 'nig' is fine, it's n-igel that gets filtered.

I think I set the marple filter, shot myself in the foot there.
>> No. 420133 Anonymous
9th September 2018
Sunday 5:04 pm
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I went to school with a lad who dropped out in year 10 to take up a job unloading deliveries of nuts. We all took the piss out of him for pissing his life chances away, joking that he'd be paid in nuts instead of actual money. He wasn't paid in nuts. What he was doing was grafting away. Whilst we were dicking around in school he was busy unloading those nuts and he was earning cold, hard cash for it. He spunked it away on drugs and beer. Last I heard he was living in a poky little council house on some sink estate with more kids than teeth, looking more like someone in their fifties than someone who's just turned thirty.

>>420129
Is it to do with Mr Saville and what happens if you type Are Nige's full name? Bloody nig-nogs.
>> No. 420142 Anonymous
9th September 2018
Sunday 10:16 pm
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>>420133

I think there's a fair bit of survivor bias when it comes to people who have dropped out of the education system, either in school or at uni or even from their vocational training.

You hear some spectacular success stories of people who became self-made millionaires despite failing school or uni, and who somehow found their true calling only after dropping out, and some of them like Bill Gates are even among the world's richest people today. I think what you don't hear much about is how the average Joe fares when they drop out. Not finishing school or uni is a dark spot on your CV that you will always have to answer for. No matter which career path you will then take, you will always have to fight the impression that you haven't got the staying power to see something through till the end. And you will certainly have trouble finding even low-level work in the field that you were training for.

I know somebody who attempted a degree in computer science because for as long as he could remember, computers were his thing. And he had good marks in it throughout school. But somehow, he just didn't adapt well to university life and decided to quit when he began to fail more and more exams. He still wanted to do something in the field despite failing uni, and I guess he was able to freelance for a while, but at a very low level, and it was usually just coding jobs. He was always told that they preferred to hire people who had finished uni full time for the big, lucrative jobs. So at some point, he then opened up his own one-man PC repair service, even rented a little shop for it. I understand he now just about gets by, but there really isn't much net profit to be made that way. It pays the shop rent and puts food on his table, but his take-home is a fraction of what senior employees with a finished computer science degree can hope to make.
>> No. 420145 Anonymous
9th September 2018
Sunday 10:28 pm
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>>420142
How do you come to fail the exams? "Failing" the coursework is par for the course among the terminally lazy but how does someone with two brain cells to rub together fail the exams? Especially as you say he knew enough to do some paid coding work. I don't get it.
>> No. 420146 Anonymous
9th September 2018
Sunday 10:36 pm
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>>420142
Reading that gave me a cold sweat.

>>420145
I get easily stressed and don't fit in easily, nor do I communicate my anxieties until I'm hurtling towards the ground without a parachute. My failures weren't remotely coding related though.

Still, might be getting a job as a pot washer soon and I hear that's the way to do it! I hate everything about me.
>> No. 420148 Anonymous
9th September 2018
Sunday 10:54 pm
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>>420145

I think he overestimated his abilities. It's one thing if you have been a computer whiz kid ever since you can remember. And it doesn't matter if you can assemble a PC blindfolded and with your hands tied behind your back, or if you can code in ten different programming languages. You are taught a great deal of theory behind computers as such, from applied physics and theoretical maths to overarching concepts of computer science itself. And so then when you go into those exams thinking it's going to be a piece of piss for you just because you've coded since you were a weelad, then that can be a dangerous assumption. He did tell me that he realised that all the theory that didn't have to do with the hands-on stuff really bored him.

Also, I've got an economics degree and I, too, was able to do the odd bit of coding work during uni, despite never having visited a single course or lecture on how to code in C or Java. Unless things really get kind of complicated, anybody who has a bare minimum of analytic (and mathematical) understanding can, with a bit of practice and experience, deliver code that can earn them money.

And I think sadly, that's also one reason why a lot of software is so piss poor, and contains countless bugs and errors and security risks. It's pretty easy to type up and/or throw together some code. As I said, it doesn't take much to be able to do that. But to really have a deeper understanding what you are doing, it's not enough to simply teach yourself bits of programming language or copy and paste libraries or code snippets you've found online. And it's also not enough to take a course in "computer programming for liberal arts", which my sociology friend considered doing and then going into programming himself.
>> No. 420149 Anonymous
10th September 2018
Monday 1:57 pm
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>>420062

It really amuses me the US Border Patrol is using precisely the same logic as an insecure girlfriend. "This is a viable way to hide something, therefore you must be hiding something."
>> No. 420152 Anonymous
10th September 2018
Monday 2:21 pm
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>>420149

The UK is far worse. You can be sent to prison for having something encrypted and refusing - or being unable - to produce decryption keys for the authorities.

I have an MSATA drive somewhere with a linux install with an encrypted /home on it. This is reasonably common practice, enough that it prompts you to do it during the OS install. I'm pretty sure I've forgotten the password to it at this point - I should really find the drive and destroy it, as the other alternative is literally risking prison time for it being in my house. What a fucking nightmare, especially considering the most controversial thing on it is my fucking CV.
>> No. 420153 Anonymous
10th September 2018
Monday 2:43 pm
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>>420152
Some guy was sent to prison recently for not giving out his Facebook password.
>> No. 420154 Anonymous
10th September 2018
Monday 2:47 pm
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>>420152

Unless police search your home for some reaosn, you should be ok.

A good idea is probably to commit no crimes that could result in a search warrant against you.
>> No. 420155 Anonymous
10th September 2018
Monday 2:57 pm
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>>420152

I see the point you're making, but it's not really the same. It's not like we have coppers walking around coffee shops randomly checking people's laptops and arresting them for suspiciously clean installs.

Not that I'd put it past them, obviously.
>> No. 420156 Anonymous
10th September 2018
Monday 3:00 pm
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>>420153

Goes to show how utterly pointless Facebook is.

Personally, I have no social media accounts whatsoever. No Facebook, no Twitter, no Linkedin, Instagram, nothing. This is by choice, because I don't see the point, never have, and likely never will.

Problem is, apparently that too is now suspicious. U.S. authorities can now ask you to tell them your social media handles, and if you say you don't have any, that could be a problem when you want to enter the country.

I have a slight suspicion that I am already on some kind of list, because on the three flights I took last year around Europe, I was "randomly selected" for an explosives trace check on two of them. Bit of a coincidence. And on one flight before that, I had a sticker on my suitcase from which I inferred that airport security had examined my luggage. I don't know what the fuck they want with me, all I am is a law abiding citizen who just refuses to have his name show up anywhere on the Internet.

I kind of think next time I'll have a bit of fun with them, by breaking open an old firecracker and rubbing my hands on it right before a flight. Probably a bad idea though.
>> No. 420157 Anonymous
10th September 2018
Monday 3:43 pm
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>>420154
And make sure you have no neighbours because the police may pursue them but search your house by mistake.
>> No. 420158 Anonymous
10th September 2018
Monday 3:48 pm
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>>420156

Frankly you probably do look suspicious if you don't have social media, I mean the only other info they have on you is your posting history on obscure "anonymous" imageboards. Being that they are anonymous, you've probably spoken more freely than you would on social media, and engaged in plenty of trolling. This probably paints you as some sort of anarchist serial pedo.

I mean god knows what kind of profile somebody would build of me if all they had to go on was my posts from this place.
>> No. 420159 Anonymous
10th September 2018
Monday 4:08 pm
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>>420158

>Frankly you probably do look suspicious if you don't have social media

And frankly I'd rather look suspicious without social media than have a Facebook account and just be uncomfortable with it.

I just don't like not having control over what people know about me. Which is kind of a moot point considering the government pretty much knows everything I do online, but still. I guess what I mean is, I don't want people, regular people, being able to gain information about me behind my back that I don't want them knowing. If there's something you want to know, ask me. But don't run around me like that.

And if authorities think I am a wrongun because of that, then to me that has more to do with them being an Orwellian state than with our world today being a social media dominated society. I'm very much in favour of a free democratic society, and warding off threats to it. But the problem these days is that supposedly democratic governments around the globe have turned this idea into a complete farce.

So go on, put me on a list to have me checked for explosives everytime I get on a plane. You will not find them on me, because there never will be any. I am a peaceful, law abiding citizen who would never do such a thing as blow up a plane. Or blow up anything really. That just isn't me. It's just sad that you are wasting the taxes I pay you on this kind of paranoia.
>> No. 420160 Anonymous
10th September 2018
Monday 5:36 pm
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>>420159

I would advise you to put on a FB page with some clean, wholesome images, a pleasant profile pic and everything set as private. No friends, no followed pages, nothing. Anybody looking you on FB will just see the front page and be happy with that. Ignore all friends requests, many of them will be bots anyways.
>> No. 420161 Anonymous
10th September 2018
Monday 5:47 pm
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>>420160

That would still go against my desire of non-existence in the digital realm.

You would be forgiven for thinking I have been dead for years, because the last documents on the web with my name are from nearly 20 years ago, and are only there because I cannot get hold of somebody who would be in charge of deleting them from that server. I have essentially wiped my slate clean. I don't exist. And I am not just going to give up that kind of anonymity.
>> No. 420162 Anonymous
10th September 2018
Monday 6:00 pm
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>>420160
And make sure not to enable facebook platform, for apps and use as a login authority on third party sites. The usual cookie wrangling, hosts file and adblockers will have much more effect than what you're giving up to FB.
None of this will mean that Facebook or anyone know anything more about you, and it acts as a mild decoy.
I did this, and don't regret it.
>> No. 420163 Anonymous
10th September 2018
Monday 6:06 pm
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>>420161
Well, fair enough. But it's not paranoia that makes people check facebook profiles, as some daft fuckers do post stuff. I don't think you get to whine about that. Whine about FB's 3rd party data collection as much as you like, though. Fuck all you can do about it, that I can see.
>> No. 420164 Anonymous
10th September 2018
Monday 6:26 pm
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>>420163

My issue isn't with Facebook. And not with Big Data nicking my personal information off my Facebook profile. My issue is with the general idea of divulging information to strangers indiscriminately on the web. Even with Facebook's various privacy settings, you will always still advertise something about yourself, even if it's the fact that you even so much as exist.

Back in the old days before the web, it was perfectly acceptable if you didn't want to be listed in your local phonebook. Which was arguably the social media of its time. My nan had her phone number removed after my granddad died and she ended up living in the house by herself. And nobody raised an eyebrow at her for saying she'd rather people didn't know she was still alive, than some "weird person" calling her that she didn't care for.

In its own way, it's like that with me today and my unwillingness to exist on the web. The government know all they could possibly want to know about me. They know where I am employed, how much money I make, how much taxes I pay, my bank account balance, where I live, where I go on holiday, and sadly, what I look at online and who I talk to on the phone. I don't think they can justify considering me "suspicious" just because I choose not to divulge any personal information to the public at large on the Internet.
>> No. 420165 Anonymous
10th September 2018
Monday 7:03 pm
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>>420164
In the same way that living an isolated in a hut in the Montana mountains also isn't 'suspicious'.
It's somewhat unusual, though. Wonder if there is or isn't any correlation between this kind of unusual, and being worth a look if you cross borders? I imagine GCHQ have some numbers? I'd hope so.
Some members of my family have no social media footprint. Mine goes back to USENET in '88. I get swabbed pretty much every flight and have SSS on my ticket about two flights out of three. Probably because I tend to book late, fly alone and turn up late and sweaty, rather than my massive and frankly tedious net footprint.
>> No. 420166 Anonymous
10th September 2018
Monday 7:42 pm
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I've never been asked to "explain away" my lack of education going all the way back to my GCSEs, but I have been semi-detained for extra question (to the point of the flight being delayed) because of a bunch of Saudi Arabian business visas.

Presumably the system flagged me up as the world's whitest radicalised Shamanismist with a serious alcohol problem in the world. Or something.
>> No. 420168 Anonymous
10th September 2018
Monday 9:04 pm
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I'm friends with a few ex cons (the reality of the kitchen game - we'll hire anyone and institutionalised people seem to find the atmosphere pretty similar) two of them were pretty heavy drug dealers, and whenever I would hang out at their houses or vice versa, I'd find that I'd be stopped by the police, sometimes unmarked, sometimes not, with odd reasons like "Oh your back light was out but it's back on now"

Maybe it was coincidence, it was always on empty B roads so maybe they were hoping to catch drink drivers or something, and they never searched my car or anything, just asked if I'd finished work at. But it did start to feel like I had "known associate" next to my name on the ANPR. I don't even know if that's a thing, seems like a stretch for the level of policing in this country.
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