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>> No. 422516 Anonymous
1st December 2018
Saturday 12:05 am
422516 Christmas 2018
It's the first of December. It's that time of year again.

Open your advent calendar chocolates, listen to Andrew, put up your tree this weekend, put off the present shopping for at least a fortnight, surviving the Christmas party at work, watching shit on telly.

You know the drill by now, lads.
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>> No. 422517 Anonymous
1st December 2018
Saturday 7:25 am
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Xyjk4sDxnI
Music to my ears
>> No. 422518 Anonymous
1st December 2018
Saturday 8:22 am
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Annual update on Andrew: he's running a start-up called Dent Reality.

https://www.dentreality.com

https://twitter.com/andrewprojdent

https://medium.com/@andrewprojdent
>> No. 422519 Anonymous
1st December 2018
Saturday 8:38 am
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>>422518

An iOS developer. Yeah, that sounds about right.
>> No. 422520 Anonymous
1st December 2018
Saturday 9:54 am
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>>422517

It's a bit strange, but Andrew's song triggers a really strange feeling of peace and joy whenever I hear it.

He's a good lad really, isn't he?
>> No. 422521 Anonymous
1st December 2018
Saturday 10:05 am
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>>422520

He's the one thing that brings us all together at Christmas.

He's clearly a really nice chap. He'd probably fit in quite well here.
>> No. 422523 Anonymous
1st December 2018
Saturday 10:23 am
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>>422521
I'm sure he'd appreciate that we have an annual tradition of listening to song every Christmas.
>> No. 422527 Anonymous
1st December 2018
Saturday 11:27 am
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>>422518

Is he related to Arthur Dent?
>> No. 422528 Anonymous
1st December 2018
Saturday 11:38 am
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>>422527
?
>> No. 422530 Anonymous
1st December 2018
Saturday 11:47 am
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>> No. 422548 Anonymous
1st December 2018
Saturday 10:12 pm
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It's surprisingly difficult to find the Winterbells game in full screen, does anyone have the proper link?

It's only so many years until flash goes away so we need to enjoy the game like we do an elderly relative at christmas.
>> No. 422550 Anonymous
1st December 2018
Saturday 10:21 pm
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>>422548
Chrome doesn't play Flash files when loaded directly anymore. They have to be embedded.
>> No. 422562 Anonymous
2nd December 2018
Sunday 7:58 pm
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I've just managed to spill a kilogram bag of peanuts on the floor. Fuck's sake. Christmas is ruined already.
>> No. 422564 Anonymous
2nd December 2018
Sunday 10:20 pm
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>>422562
Time to get a dog.
>> No. 422566 Anonymous
2nd December 2018
Sunday 10:42 pm
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>>422564

Dogs will eat anything.
>> No. 422567 Anonymous
2nd December 2018
Sunday 11:09 pm
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>>422564
I'd recently swept the floor, so I just picked them up one by one. However, I only have dry roasted peanuts so I've lost loads of the lovely seasoning powder.
>> No. 422569 Anonymous
4th December 2018
Tuesday 12:15 pm
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I just ate some marzipan from Lidl. Ze Germans may have their Stollen down, but the marzipan log from Lidl really doesn't taste much like marzipan at all. It's bland and almost has kind of a chalky texture. It says on the wrapper that it has a 22% content of ground almonds. According to Google, good quality marzipan more commonly has between 40 and 50%.
>> No. 422604 Anonymous
5th December 2018
Wednesday 7:37 pm
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Secret Santa time. What do I get for a ladette who is somewhere around the age of 40 and spent the weekend scrapping in pubs?
>> No. 422605 Anonymous
5th December 2018
Wednesday 7:40 pm
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>>422604
Chocolate knuckledusters.
>> No. 422606 Anonymous
5th December 2018
Wednesday 7:47 pm
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>>422604

Gin
>> No. 422607 Anonymous
5th December 2018
Wednesday 7:56 pm
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>>422604
A 9ct Gold Sovereign ring with a rose on it.
>> No. 422608 Anonymous
5th December 2018
Wednesday 8:02 pm
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>>422604
https://smile.amazon.co.uk/Anyeda-Womens-Wedding-Crystal-Engagement/dp/B07KRBBMNG/ref=sr_1_37?s=jewelry&ie=UTF8&qid=1544040093&sr=1-37&keywords=Sovereign+rose

Close enough.
>> No. 422609 Anonymous
5th December 2018
Wednesday 8:02 pm
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>>422604

A load of scratchcards and/or 20 Bensons.
>> No. 422620 Anonymous
6th December 2018
Thursday 9:25 am
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>>422609

Or cat accessories.
>> No. 422664 Anonymous
7th December 2018
Friday 6:58 am
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>A charity has been banned from a primary school after one of its workers told children there is no such thing as Santa Claus.

>An assembly was meant to be about Advent but the charity worker leading it dropped her Santa bombshell ... and then invited up two children to smash a chocolate Santa and reindeer with hammers.

>Parents learned about the incident from their children, and one mum said: "To say that I am furious is an understatement." Posting on Facebook, the mum said: "I was asking my six-year-old this evening if he was planning to write a letter to Santa. He said 'there is no such thing as Santa, he is just a made up thing." The little boy went on to describe how the worker from the Mary Bass Charity broke the news about Santa, also telling children "there is no St Nicholas", and then "got a big girl and a small girl to come up in assembly and smash a chocolate Santa and a chocolate reindeer with a hammer".

>Fleet Wood Lane Primary School had a meeting for parents, with staff explaining the message is "not supported by the school and does not support the school's core views". But the parent who had posted on Facebook said the meeting had left her with questions. These included:

>* What is the safeguarding protocol regarding a stranger coming into school with two hammers?

>And:

>* Who do I bill for the therapy my emotionally damaged child may need to rectify all the brainwashing that he has been subjected to this entire term?"

https://www.spaldingtoday.co.uk/news/charity-workers-bombshell-for-primary-school-kids-as-she-says-santa-doesnt-exist-9056324/
>> No. 422669 Anonymous
7th December 2018
Friday 11:29 am
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>>422664

Not the news thread this, but:

>>* Who do I bill for the therapy my emotionally damaged child may need to rectify all the brainwashing that he has been subjected to this entire term?"


So telling children the - vastly agreed upon - truth that Santa doesn't exist is brainwashing?

What next? Do you also not want them to learn about gravity in physics?
>> No. 422670 Anonymous
7th December 2018
Friday 11:37 am
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>>422669
> gravity
It's intelligent falling.
>> No. 422671 Anonymous
7th December 2018
Friday 11:54 am
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>>422669

I'd argue that convincing children in Father Christmas is actually the brainwashing:

>Brianwashing. N. The application of a concentrated means of persuasion, such as an advertising campaign or repeated suggestion, in order to develop a specific belief or motivation.

It's a brainwashing trick to get little children to behave. Six year old are old enough to know that it's their family and friends buying the gifts anyway.
>> No. 422673 Anonymous
7th December 2018
Friday 12:51 pm
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>>422669
Her Facebook background picture is poppies. Say no more.

https://facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003121407482

She'd get it, though.
>> No. 422674 Anonymous
7th December 2018
Friday 12:56 pm
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My dad told me there was no Santa Claus when I was three.

I asked "Why do people say there is then?"

He said "Because people are stupid."

He wasn't wrong.
>> No. 422675 Anonymous
7th December 2018
Friday 1:00 pm
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>>422671

>It's a brainwashing trick to get little children to behave. Six year old are old enough to know that it's their family and friends buying the gifts anyway.

I once raised eyebrows as a six year old when my parents threatened that Santa would get me nothing for Christmas, when I said, "Well then I don't ever want him to come again anyway"

I think I had a point. If Santa was going to be a cunt just because I was throwing an age appropriate temper tantrum once in a while, then why bother being nice all year in the first place.
>> No. 422676 Anonymous
7th December 2018
Friday 1:01 pm
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>>422674
Your Dad never loved you.
>> No. 422677 Anonymous
7th December 2018
Friday 1:05 pm
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>>422676

I gathered that when he vanished to the Channel Isles to evade taxes when I was 11 and I never saw him again. I remember the kids I knew being more upset that everyone had lied to them about something really stupid rather than the fact of there being no Father Christmas though.
>> No. 422678 Anonymous
7th December 2018
Friday 1:15 pm
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>>422677

I think it was my older brother who first told me "Guess what, there is no Santa Claus". I must have been seven or eight and he was twelve.

I don't really remember how I dealt with the sudden shock of that realisation. But it helped me know what to make of it when my parents were telling me yet again that Santa would get me nothing for Christmas. I didn't see it as the poor parenting skills that they were at the time, but it gave me a strategic advantage to know my parents were bluffing, whilst thinking that I still believed in Santa.
>> No. 422679 Anonymous
7th December 2018
Friday 1:33 pm
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>>422678
>poor parenting skills
Much like God, Santa is an magical omniscient figure who knows whether you have been naughty or nice and treats you accordingly. He is an excellent tool for social control that prevents the feeling of resentment against those who are really responsible. Parents would be fools not to use him.
>> No. 422680 Anonymous
7th December 2018
Friday 2:05 pm
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>>422679

>Much like God, Santa is an magical omniscient figure who knows whether you have been naughty or nice and treats you accordingly

Ricky Gervais had a brilliant bit as part of one of his standup routines once. Sadly I can't find it on youtube.

Anyway, he was talking about how God created the Universe, and he was like, "Alright, let's put a few more galaxies there, and a couple more black holes in this corner here... and a few more nebulae right there... perfect. Wait a minute... what's happening there on Earth... what do you think you're doing there, Jimmy... WITH ANOTHER MAN?? IN THE ARSE??"

Now, Santa only has about two or three billion Christians to look after and remember if they've been cunts all year... so he isn't operating on the scale of universe creation. But still no mean feat, remembering that little Johnny in Nunthorpe set his cat's tail on fire one Saturday in February and therefore deserves no gifts for Christmas this year.
>> No. 422681 Anonymous
7th December 2018
Friday 2:10 pm
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>>422677
Did he ever make you smash up a chocolate reindeer with a hammer, though?
>> No. 422682 Anonymous
7th December 2018
Friday 3:33 pm
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Apparently I figured out Santa was bollocks and asked my mum as much when I was relatively young. She tried to be vague about it but I just kept asking questions until she caved. Clearly I started being a tedious pedant very young.

I'm afraid that sounds like I'm just bragging about how clever I was as a kid or whatever, so I'll add this story too - one year my granddad volunteered to be the Santa that visited my class at school, and I didn't even notice. I remember the day vividly, I sat on his knee and asked for a Power Rangers Falcon Zord and everything, and didn't even notice it was my own granddad.
>> No. 422683 Anonymous
7th December 2018
Friday 3:52 pm
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>>422682

> and didn't even notice it was my own granddad.


Not much of a tedious pedant after all then.
>> No. 422684 Anonymous
7th December 2018
Friday 4:04 pm
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>>422683

Well excuse me for believing in the magic of Christmas.
>> No. 422688 Anonymous
7th December 2018
Friday 5:58 pm
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>>422684

No need to get pedantic.
>> No. 422689 Anonymous
7th December 2018
Friday 9:03 pm
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>>422682
Was she trying to answer your questions as plausibly as possible, because she didn't have to play The Santa Professor. She could have easily have gone "I don't know dear, it's a mystery to me too".
>> No. 422690 Anonymous
7th December 2018
Friday 9:11 pm
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>>422689

I don't remember exactly, but she's a terrible liar so she was probably just making it more obvious, regardless.
>> No. 422691 Anonymous
7th December 2018
Friday 9:15 pm
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The Santa story is really snide on poor kids. Getting worse presents than your mates is one thing; being told that it's your fault is quite another.
>> No. 422692 Anonymous
7th December 2018
Friday 9:20 pm
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>>422691
Poor parents are shit with money, part of the reason they're poor. Don't be surprised if the poor child has an iPad or a PS4 to go with the massive telly in their bedroom.

It's the children of hand-wringing right-on parents I feel sorry for. I heard of someone who bought their child a bat box for Christmas as they thought a present they'd actually enjoy would be too consumerist and unethical.
>> No. 422693 Anonymous
7th December 2018
Friday 9:35 pm
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>>422692
I always suspected Reese-Mogg posted here.
>> No. 422694 Anonymous
7th December 2018
Friday 9:53 pm
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>>422692

>Poor parents are shit with money, part of the reason they're poor. Don't be surprised if the poor child has an iPad or a PS4 to go with the massive telly in their bedroom.


This will often be the case.

Poor people aren't necessarily poor just because they have no money. But also because the money they have goes to purchases that aren't really within their means.
>> No. 422695 Anonymous
7th December 2018
Friday 9:57 pm
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>>422694

What poor people are you lads basing this on? The ones you read about in the Mail?
>> No. 422696 Anonymous
7th December 2018
Friday 10:05 pm
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>>422695

Not any of them, but many of my cousins lived like this when growing up. They'd have the latest games console but it'd be back down the pawn shop when the gas bill came in. I remember one lot lived off takeaways for something like a year because they didn't scrape the money together to fix the oven or buy a new one.

Even people living literally hand to mouth have aspirations for big TVs, Playstations, and nice trainers.
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7th December 2018
Friday 10:06 pm
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>> No. 422698 Anonymous
7th December 2018
Friday 10:10 pm
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So I guess what we've established from this conversation is that poor people aren't allowed nice things.
>> No. 422699 Anonymous
7th December 2018
Friday 10:14 pm
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>>422698

Maybe if they spent their money in a different way they'd suddenly be sprung out of the minimum wage trap.

If your boss sees your kids have nice trainers he's legally prevented from paying you any more.
>> No. 422700 Anonymous
7th December 2018
Friday 10:38 pm
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>>422699

Bare in mind this was in a time period where there was no minimum wage, no living wage, no London living wage and no such thing as a zero hour contract.

At least half my uncles claimed unemployment benefit (as it was in those days) and worked cash in hand jobs on the side. In terms of cash I imagine they were better off than a lot of people doing things honestly, they were just fucking terrible at basic household skills like budgeting and not pissing your money up the wall every night of the week.
>> No. 422701 Anonymous
7th December 2018
Friday 11:23 pm
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I find it tends to be the people who've never spent time around poor people who make statements like this because they've romanticised them in their heads.

When I went to college I had to walk through the local council estate to get there. Almost every house had a Sky TV dish outside and a huge wide-screen in their living rooms, far more so than people who lived outside of the estate.

It's not exactly a controversial statement to make, other than to the knee-jerk reactionaries here, that poor people tend to see material items such as a huge telly, games consoles and American style fridge freezers as status symbols. My other half is friends with a woman with six kids who doesn't work - they have eight TVs in their house; two boys share a bedroom and they've each got a TV fitted into their headboard and there's another one in there for their XBox. To most people a bedroom with three TVs would be ridiculous, but poor people see it as something to be proud of and show off.

Take that /iq/ thread as an example; a single mother who works as a hairdresser is spending £3,000 this Christmas. No doubt she will be paying it off on credit cards for at least all of 2019.
>> No. 422702 Anonymous
7th December 2018
Friday 11:27 pm
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>>422700

>they were just fucking terrible at basic household skills like budgeting and not pissing your money up the wall every night of the week.

Poverty often gets handed down the generations of a family because your own parents had no concept of budgeting, and then you don't learn it from your parents, and you then pass on that lack of life skills to your own children.

Very hard to escape that.
>> No. 422703 Anonymous
7th December 2018
Friday 11:41 pm
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>>422701

>It's not exactly a controversial statement to make, other than to the knee-jerk reactionaries here, that poor people tend to see material items such as a huge telly, games consoles and American style fridge freezers as status symbols.


There is a school of thought in social sciences that poor people and the middle classes have very different ideas about what it means to participate in society.

Most middle and upper class people will tell you that they believe education is the key to becoming a respected member of society. An education to them enables you to get a proper job, through which, all going well, you stand a chance of leading a decent life. An education is thus both means to an end and a status symbol in and of itself.

Among the lower classes, however, a good education is often not only out of reach financially, but there is also no value placed on it, not as a means to an end, but also not as something that would have intrinsic value. A lot of times, there is even resentment against better educated people. And making sure your kids are properly educated also takes a lot of time and effort of doing their homework with them, monitoring their progress in class, and encouraging them to pick up a book now and then, which doesn't come easy when you're trapped in a cycle of beer, fags and daytime TV.

Material status symbols, on the other hand, are more easy to obtain for the lower classes, even if it means spending half a month's benefits on a flatscreen TV. If you've got a big TV, that means you have status. Fuck them and their education and their universities and that, you've got a 40'' TV and adidas trainers.

That way, for the the middle and upper classes, participation in society hinges on your education and your professional career, whereas in the lower classes it is almost exclusively determined by the consumer goods you own.
>> No. 422704 Anonymous
7th December 2018
Friday 11:53 pm
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>>422701

>I find it tends to be the people who've never spent time around poor people who make statements like this

I spent plenty of time around poor people when I was one. I know the sort of person you're talking about, but in my experience they weren't actually poor, they were dealers.
>> No. 422706 Anonymous
8th December 2018
Saturday 2:36 am
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Why are you pillorying the poor in a Christmas thread, for goodness sake? Next you'll be telling me Tiny Tim was a cunt and I'm not having it.

My ritual this year is going to change slightly, as it'll just be me and the Missus, and I'm going to watch all of Miyazaki's Studio Ghibli movies. Porco Rosso being my favourite, so I'll save that for Xmas day proper.
>> No. 422707 Anonymous
8th December 2018
Saturday 3:59 am
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>>422703

> Next you'll be telling me Tiny Tim was a cunt and I'm not having it.

You can't compare an age of workhouses and debtors prisons with the world in which we live today (at least in the UK and most other civilized countries).

Which leads me to request that you, rather than I, stick it right up your christmas jumper.
>> No. 422708 Anonymous
8th December 2018
Saturday 7:01 am
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>>422701

A big telly and a (dodgy) Sky box is very cheap compared to nearly any other kind of entertainment. A 50" LCD is, what, £400 these days? You'll probably get five, maybe even ten years out of it before it dies or becomes totally obsolete. That works out to no more than £6.70 a month, which is a paltry sum even if you're paying twice that to Brighthouse. A basic Sky subscription is £20 a month, but most people I know have either got a dodgy box with cardsharing or have gone over to Kodi.

A night at the pub, the cinema, a restaurant or a gig is going to cost you at least as much as the monthly repayment on a big telly and your Sky bill combined, even without the cost of babysitting or taking the kids out with you. The very cheapest of package holidays will cost about the same as a big telly, but the telly will last for years rather than a week. A big telly will keep you entertained even when you can't afford to do anything else.

I think that the trope of "they can't be that poor because they've got a massive telly" or "they're poor because they waste all their money on a big telly" is a quite nasty bit of snobbery. They've got a massive telly because they're poor. Big TVs are Giffen goods - they substitute for more expensive alternatives. Should poor people just stare at the wall all evening instead? Would they be meaningfully better off if they had saved £200 by buying a smaller model?

Being poor is shit and I wish people would stop pretending otherwise.
>> No. 422709 Anonymous
8th December 2018
Saturday 8:35 am
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>>422706
>Why are you pillorying the poor in a Christmas thread, for goodness sake? Next you'll be telling me Tiny Tim was a cunt and I'm not having it.

The point was made that the kids who have it worst at Christmas aren't the poor, as their parents tend to overspend and will buy the likes of games consoles, but the children of socially conscious parents who'll buy a goat for a village in some third world shithole as their present. Unfortunately we have a few knee-jerk reactionaries who thought this was an attack on the poor so try to start a cunt-off.

Tiny Tim was clearly committing benefit fraud. It's why almost every child these days gets diagnosed as having Special Educational Needs; got to keep the benefits flowing in and getting your kid diagnosed with something is a a surefire meal ticket.

>>422708
Most paupers I know are mates with someone who sells pirated versions of films presently out at the cinema or they have Kodi. People always forget about the black market.
>> No. 422711 Anonymous
8th December 2018
Saturday 9:23 am
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>>422707

Tiny Tim's great.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcSlcNfThUA
>> No. 422712 Anonymous
8th December 2018
Saturday 10:46 am
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>>422708

I hadn't actually considered this, but I think you're absolutely right, and it applies across the board to a lot of consumer electronics.

Holidays and real world activities are expensive, so my childhood was spent camping or staring at a Gameboy. My brothers and I used to flip through dated games magazines, laughing at the extortionate prices. A new MegaDrive cartridge could cost £40-£60, yet back when we bought them we'd easily spend hundreds of hours learning every little trick or working to 100% completion. Economically it actually made a certain sense, even better if you could pick them up second hand.

I wish I could say my family were class conscious enough to go and get me a library card or enroll me on extracurriculars instead, but the fact is they weren't. It wasn't until much later in life I really joined the race.

Electronic forms of entertainment don't always have to be a timesink. Games probably furnished my mind with some nice imaginative things, a bit of skill in abstract thinking, and decent reaction times.

On the other hand, when I look back on how few options I had to really spend my time growing up (go out and play football, play computer games, or watch telly), it sort of makes sense why I felt so lost and bored for the first half of my life.

This has put me a bit of a gloomy mood.
>> No. 422719 Anonymous
8th December 2018
Saturday 12:48 pm
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>>422709

>but the children of socially conscious parents who'll buy a goat for a village in some third world shithole as their present.

That kind of thing is just fucking disgusting. You are essentially giving somebody the middle finger by saying, no, we're not getting you anything for Christmas this year, we've spent your money on a goat that's going to feed a family in some third world backwater shithole country where you will never go anyway to see if they even received their goat or if it was all just an elaborate scam. And if that picture you will be getting from that family was staged and fifteen other people got the exact same photo.


It really gets my goat, as it were.

Sage for silly pun.
>> No. 422720 Anonymous
8th December 2018
Saturday 1:01 pm
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>>422719
>some third world backwater shithole country where you will never go anyway to see if they even received their goat or if it was all just an elaborate scam. And if that picture you will be getting from that family was staged and fifteen other people got the exact same photo.

When my girlfriend was young her school did Operation Christmas Child, sending shoeboxes to a school in Romania. She got a few letters from the child who received her shoebox; her father was a doctor and she was actually relatively wealthier than my girlfriend. Then again, that entire organisation is just a front for Christian missionary work.
>> No. 422721 Anonymous
8th December 2018
Saturday 1:37 pm
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>>422708

This, a thousand times this.

I also find it pretty apalling how cunts always assume that apoor family is just shit at budgeting and fucks all their money on credit cards and shite. You don't know that to be the case at all.

When I was a young lad I wasn't exactly well off, but I had a good friend who was definitely worse off. I was an only child and both of my parents worked; so while we weren't rich we were comfortable. His dad was a joiner and his mum spent years off work with a bad back. They had three kids to look after, and they made every penny fucking count. Sure they had a big telly and a nice conservatory on their house, but that's because they scrimped and saved and went on holidays in a caravan, the kids only got any new games or anything for christmas or birthday, no exceptions. The lad was clearly very jealous of me at times for the fact my family didn't have to scrape by like that, but they clearly deserved their fucking big telly, they earned it, and if you were to tell them otherwise you're a fucking bellend.

Elitism and snobbery like that just makes me very deeply disappointed in our society to be honest.
>> No. 422723 Anonymous
8th December 2018
Saturday 1:59 pm
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>>422721
If someone is prepared to blow about ten grand on a conservatory but has to scrimp and save the rest of the time then that suggests they're bad with money more than anything.
>> No. 422725 Anonymous
8th December 2018
Saturday 2:57 pm
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>>422721
>I also find it pretty apalling how cunts always assume that apoor family is just shit at budgeting and fucks all their money on credit cards and shite.

I think that as a rule it very much is poor people who are shit at budgeting because:
A) If you have the skills not to have your pants pulled down by scams then you generally have the skills to be earning more.
B) Poverty is hereditary. If you grew up with your dad pissing it all up the wall at the local/bookies then you're going to have an uphill battle to avoid the habits.
C) You don't have that monetary cushion to cover surprise bills so you get into debt. Then you grow used to debt or otherwise your budget simply never recovers. What I'm saying is budgeting in itself requires money.

Not to say that your m8s parents weren't able to rub two pennies together to make three but it neither matches the statistics nor my own experience. My poor m8 growing up had parents with debts coming out their ears because his dad was a fucking twat with money and his mum was scared to stand up to him. Soon as we got to drinking age he developed the same problem coupled with being a horrific drunk doing absolutely nothing to help himself so we lost touch.

Happy ending: His mum abruptly walked out the house one day and that was the end of an awful marriage. Last I heard she married another bloke who was soft.
>> No. 422726 Anonymous
8th December 2018
Saturday 3:06 pm
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>>422725

>What I'm saying is budgeting in itself requires money.

Well exactly. Poor people aren't shit at budgeting, they don't have the outlay to do it.

It'd be easy for me to tell someone in poverty that they could buy a big bag of rice for forty quid that would last them several months and save them significant food costs vs buying smaller packs weekly, but that doesn't really help someone who only has £20 a week left in their paycheck for food for their family.
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8th December 2018
Saturday 3:21 pm
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>>422726
People with a decent income don't tend to bulk food in bulk, either. I'd say the issue is more about instant gratification; you can save your pennies up to be marginally less poor or you can fritter them away making life a little bit more tolerable now.

All we've really established is that Anon had a poor friend but his parents still managed to get him nice presents for Christmas, which backs up the original assertion that the kids who have it worst at Christmas are those with middle class hand-wringing parents who'll get them a socially responsible present like a bat box instead of something the child would actually want and use.
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8th December 2018
Saturday 3:22 pm
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>>422723

No lad, the dad was a joiner. He bought the materials and built the fucker himself with a couple of mates for help.

Again, see how quick to judge you are?
>> No. 422732 Anonymous
8th December 2018
Saturday 3:27 pm
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>>422726

Except this isn't about spending 40 quid on a bag of rice. Asda has 4kg bags of rice for under £4.

https://groceries.asda.com/product/long-grain-basmati-rice/asda-easy-cook-long-grain-white-rice/910000023376

I always buy 1kg bags of rice, which are 99p at Asda, and as a single person who only has to cook for himself, that 1kg bag of rice always lasts me up to two weeks. And I really like rice and eat it often. So a 4 kg bag of rice for four quid means your family of four's rice needs sorted for at least two weeks.

And even for 20 quid, you can buy a week's worth of groceries for a family of four. Yes, you are going to have to buy your meat and vegetables so that you can combine them into two or three different dishes, but that is what clever budgeting is. Also, some staple vegetables like bell pepper or potatoes really aren't that expensive. My local Lidl has 2.5 kg bags of potatoes for £2, and that's enough potatoes for at least two family meals. And I think I last saw their standard bag of mixed-colour bell peppers for 85p. With a bit of onion, vegetable stock and tomato puree, you can get a side dish of fried bell pepper out of that for four people.

And it's the same with clothes. Buy them so that most individual pieces of clothing go together with each other without you looking like a daft mong. You can get many different outfits out of your wardrobe that way.

Clever budgeting isn't a matter of having a lot of money. It's just a question of being clever to begin with.
>> No. 422733 Anonymous
8th December 2018
Saturday 3:31 pm
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>>422679
Luckily, with all the recent advent of data mining Santa might be obsolete soon.
>> No. 422736 Anonymous
8th December 2018
Saturday 3:38 pm
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>>422730

>People with a decent income don't tend to bulk food in bulk, either.

Yes, because they don't need to if they can comfortably afford a normal shop - they're actually the ones shit at budgeting, a middle class family could save hundreds if not thousands if they shopped more frugally.

>which backs up the original assertion that the kids who have it worst at Christmas are those with middle class hand-wringing parents

I don't give a fuck about that, I just care about everyone thinking poor people can't budget and that's why they're poor. A lot of parents skip meals to put money into their kid's Christmas fund, or worse, are tempted to go to Brighthouse or more predatory loans companies who are now thankfully being dealt with. And then people go 'but their kids have an xbox how can they be poor? bloody idiots'. A complete, mind boggling lack of empathy there.

And if they save that extra £25 a month they spend on sky and paying off their telly, then what? They have an extra £300 a month? Oooh, good for them. They've also spend an entire year sat in the house staring at the wall, entirely disconnected from the modern world.
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8th December 2018
Saturday 3:46 pm
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>>422732

Even in your examples you've racked up about £8 or £9 out of £20 (11 if you've bought the rice that week) and you've accounted for about four meals plus a bowl of rice a day.

There are several slightly cynical TV shows about this exact sort of thing at the moment, where poshos and poor people swap budgets for a week. They do more than I can to convince you.
>> No. 422739 Anonymous
8th December 2018
Saturday 3:53 pm
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>>422736
Come off it, Jeremy. The majority of poor people are thick cunts who suffer from their own ignorance. None of your working class heroes will change that reality.

>And if they save that extra £25 a month they spend on sky and paying off their telly, then what? They have an extra £300 a month? Oooh, good for them. They've also spend an entire year sat in the house staring at the wall, entirely disconnected from the modern world.

They can get a library card and a magazine subscription with the change being put towards education. Maybe their kids can break the cycle if their raised in this kind of household even if the by-product is they spend more on food with their vastly inflated income. Incidentally:

>a middle class family could save hundreds if not thousands if they shopped more frugally.

And yet still live within their means which is what budgeting is about.
>> No. 422740 Anonymous
8th December 2018
Saturday 3:56 pm
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>>422736

>And if they save that extra £25 a month they spend on sky and paying off their telly, then what? They have an extra £300 a month? Oooh, good for them.

You don't have to get a Sky subscription in the first place. Freeview boxes start at around £50 as a one-off expense, many newer TVs even have it built in, and you'll get a lot of essential telly for free. Yes, you're going to have to do without Sky Atlantic, but most of their content is on 5 USA just a short while later. And you can cut corners on a 40'' TV, if you must have one, by buying one used or a slightly older model.
>> No. 422741 Anonymous
8th December 2018
Saturday 4:03 pm
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>>422739

>Come off it, Jeremy. The majority of poor people are thick cunts who suffer from their own ignorance.

This is really the case, from my own experience. Sadly.

You'll have people who have no problem spending 300 quid a month on fags and booze, but when it comes to things like proper food on the table, they get mad at the government for not paying them enough benefits.

I know a middle aged couple, both of them in and out of low skilled jobs and off and on benefits, and even with their tight finances, they manage to each smoke a pack of cigarettes a day and drink two or three pints in front of the telly every night. That's hundreds of quid pissed up the wall every month. Why not start there and stop smoking and drinking.

Well and they also have the 40'' TV that they're paying off. And a few other frivolous purchases.
>> No. 422742 Anonymous
8th December 2018
Saturday 4:19 pm
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You don't get it though do you. You see it as spaffing money up the wall on fags and booze, they don't need those things, those are luxuries. Sure, that's the case for you perhaps, with other things filling the dark existential void within. It's not when you know all you have to look forward to is another 20 years at the call centre or behind the till at Primark.

The essential nihilism of the working class is keeping the NHS running for fuck sake. Where do you think it'd be without all those taxes. No, the money it'd save on care doesn't outweigh it. Yes, poor people would be a fuck of a lot better off if it wasn't a tenner for a deck of cigs.

Just yet more things you think you deserve (but don't need, nyaarr, wot wot) but the working class should be disdained for enjoying. You all need a long hard word with yourselves.
>> No. 422743 Anonymous
8th December 2018
Saturday 4:45 pm
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>>422742

>You don't get it though do you. You see it as spaffing money up the wall on fags and booze, they don't need those things, those are luxuries. Sure, that's the case for you perhaps, with other things filling the dark existential void within. It's not when you know all you have to look forward to is another 20 years at the call centre or behind the till at Primark.

Well the answer to feeling a dark existential void within can't be numbing yourself with cigarettes, possibly even other drugs, and three pints in front of the telly every night.

If you're content being poor and consuming copious amounts of fags and booze every night, which will be a strain on your monthly budget any way you will look at it, then you really shouldn't give a toss anyway when other people tell you that to better your ways you must stop doing it. But if you want to escape that kind of life, it pays to listen to people giving you some of the most obvious suggestions imaginable.


>The essential nihilism of the working class is keeping the NHS running for fuck sake. Where do you think it'd be without all those taxes. No, the money it'd save on care doesn't outweigh it. Yes, poor people would be a fuck of a lot better off if it wasn't a tenner for a deck of cigs.


It's more than just weighing earned sin taxes against the additional cost of treating lung cancer, heart disease and drinking related disorders. There is a much wider loss of productivity on the whole when people can't work because they are sick due to unhealthy life habits. Lost productivity means lost income and taxes, which again means less money for government services, not just the NHS. Taxing alcohol and cigs is a start in recuperating some of the cost of the illnesses associated with their abuse, but it's pretty certain that we'd be better off not having to care for those who become addicted to booze and fags and then become a burden on the NHS and social services.

I was a chain smoker myself for twelve years. And I am university educated, mind. I, too, used cigarettes as a way of filling a void within me. I may not have been a till slave, but my life for a long time looked pretty grim nonetheless. But I have kicked the habit, for good as far as I am concerned, and my theory is that quitting smoking changes your brain metabolism in a way that you just naturally become more optimistic about yourself.

Not trying to be an overweening middle class cunt (which you will probably waste no time telling me), but again, I don't think it's all as easy as saying, let the lower classes have their fags and booze because that's all they've got.
>> No. 422745 Anonymous
8th December 2018
Saturday 5:06 pm
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>>422739
>The majority of poor people are thick cunts who suffer from their own ignorance

The level of mathematical and financial literacy in this country is shockingly low. There was a study not too long ago by the UCL Institute of Education and University of Cambridge which found that many adults could not work out one-third of £3.15, scoring noticeably worser than adults in other European nations.

I know people on six figure salaries with absolutely fuck all to show for it because they're constantly overstretching themselves and pissing away all their money, with no real idea where it's going. People drift by with no real idea what their actual expenditure is.

As a quick test, how many of you in work can actually answer most of these:-

• The size of your pension pot.
• How much you are contributing to a pension in percentage and monetary terms.
• How much your employer is contributing to your pension in percentage and monetary terms.
• Whether your employer offers a salary sacrifice arrangement for pension contributions.
• Whether your employer will increase their level of contributions.
• Where your pension monies are invested.
• The charges on your pension.
• When you plan to retire.
• How much you think you'll need to have in a pension pot to retire at that age.
>> No. 422746 Anonymous
8th December 2018
Saturday 5:09 pm
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>>422745

I'm shit at money but I can still answer all of those bar when I plan to retire (considering doing it early but have no firm plans)

It's shockingly easy with the recent push to make it so.

Doesn't really have much to do with those trapped in zero hours minimum wage work, though.
>> No. 422752 Anonymous
8th December 2018
Saturday 5:52 pm
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>>422745

>There was a study not too long ago by the UCL Institute of Education and University of Cambridge which found that many adults could not work out one-third of £3.15, scoring noticeably worser than adults in other European nations.


This is all a matter of practice though.

For example, my university degree is in economics. Before I went to uni, I never really bothered to do a lot of calculations in my head about the money I had. Granted, I was only 20, and younger. One thing about studying economics is that they give you an ABSOLUTE FUCKLOAD of maths problems to work out both as your coursework and in your exams. Economics at uni is by far not just a debating club. On the contrary, you will spend half of your four years simply crunching numbers with a pen and paper and a calculator. You are trained to work out numbers to the nth decimal blindfolded behind your back if necessary, especially in subjects like management accounting or finance.

My maths skills in school were really pretty average, I was never bad but also never one of the best, and as I said, before uni, I never really did a lot of number crunching. It's nothing short of a miracle that I passed all the higher maths, but again, it was practice. There are a few recurring themes throughout your economics exams, about a set of one dozen different higher maths techniques from n-dimensional equation systems to matrices and a few other things, but once you've got the hang of them, the maths side of that degree is frankly a piece of piss.

So my point is, even if your mathematical talent is less than average, with enough practice, you can develop an in-depth grasp on simple arithmetic that is useful for things like budgeting and cost effectiveness in your personal life.

I think what's a problem is that people tend to be a bit too cavalier about the fact that they are shit at maths. Having been shit at maths in school is almost seen as a badge of honour, whereas people will think you are an uptight boffin when you tell them "Oh you know, I'm actually pretty good at maths these days".

Poor maths skills aren't droll, they are the absence of an essential life skill. It's the whole give-a-man-a-fish thing. If you teach people how to properly monitor their monthly costs and how to get the most out of the things you buy, then you will have far fewer people in perennial debt as they are today, including the poor and lower classes.
>> No. 422753 Anonymous
8th December 2018
Saturday 5:58 pm
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>>422752

>Poor maths skills aren't droll, they are the absence of an essential life skill.

That is irrelevant as long as you can still use a calculator, though. I'm shit at maths (not proud of it, I try my best to improve) but still manage to work with numbers daily as I know how to use excel and google things.

I'd say that budgeting has precious little to do with maths skills, even if you had no calculator I'm sure most people are still capable of rounding up to the nearest pound when working out their grocery budget.
>> No. 422754 Anonymous
8th December 2018
Saturday 6:18 pm
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>>422742
m8, the only time a dark existential void is getting filled with fags and booze is when your mum's shoplifting at duty free. And she's still back at it 6 months later.

It clearly doesn't work and has long been observed as a cancer on the working class. Chloe at Primark would do well to listen to the scorn and instead read up on Seneca or work on escaping her situation.

>>422745
I've surprised myself by being able to work it all out. Even planned out the retirement at the start of the year with a solid 2-3 decades shitposting and blazing it all day before I die.

Of course knowing my luck the bastards will crack immortality in the next 100 years and I'll have to work forever under the cruel whip of the Moon-People.
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8th December 2018
Saturday 6:45 pm
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>>422753

>That is irrelevant as long as you can still use a calculator, though.

It's not just the ability to punch numbers into a calculator. Any ten year old can do that. It's an overall grasp on arithmetic and being able to judge how far the money you make every month will go.
>> No. 422757 Anonymous
8th December 2018
Saturday 6:53 pm
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>>422752
>I think what's a problem is that people tend to be a bit too cavalier about the fact that they are shit at maths. Having been shit at maths in school is almost seen as a badge of honour

There's no almost about it. Some people boast of their inability to understand maths. Anti-intellectualism is encouraged in certain quarters.

A lot of research into financial planning has found that people want to do it but they haven't got a clue where to start, so they end up feeling too daunted by it. They need someone to guide them through it; education and engagement has a drastic increase in the uptake of it.
>> No. 422758 Anonymous
8th December 2018
Saturday 7:08 pm
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>>422757

>Some people boast of their inability to understand maths. Anti-intellectualism is encouraged in certain quarters.

And it's really just practice to a very large extent.

I read something recently where some psychologist argued that with the right proper training, anybody's brain can do just about anything. You may not have a natural knack for maths, and nobody expects you to get a maths degree. But you can be taught maths to an extent where you will at least have a decent level of mathematical skill.

Wouldn't go as far as blaming anti-intellectualism, but we would really benefit from a culture where being good at maths is valued. You wouldn't boast to anybody that you're shit at writing and orthography. Poor spelling is one of the most surefire ways to get turned down when applying for a job, for example. And we've even got TV ads trying to sell us spelling software because good spelling is so important.

If we're so anal about spelling, then there is no reason why we shouldn't also apply that high standard to maths. Because in a way, correct spelling is much more time consuming to learn than a bit of arithmetic.
>> No. 422759 Anonymous
8th December 2018
Saturday 8:01 pm
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I doubt any of you lads are watching Strictly, but Lauren Steadman would seriously get it. She looks like she'd be absolute filth. She gives me a right proper stonk on.
>> No. 422760 Anonymous
8th December 2018
Saturday 8:09 pm
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>>422759

Is she on the left or right there?
>> No. 422761 Anonymous
8th December 2018
Saturday 8:26 pm
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>>422745
>As a quick test, how many of you in work can actually answer most of these:-
Those questions are a bit moot if you're not high enough up Maslow to be able to worry about things like pensions.
>> No. 422762 Anonymous
8th December 2018
Saturday 8:27 pm
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>>422741
>Why not start there and stop smoking and drinking.
>Well and they also have the 40'' TV that they're paying off. And a few other frivolous purchases.

Aaaaaand we're back to "poor people shouldn't have nice things" again.
>> No. 422763 Anonymous
8th December 2018
Saturday 8:36 pm
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>>422761
The point was that people all along the income scale are generally piss poor at financial planning, not just paupers.
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8th December 2018
Saturday 8:38 pm
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>>422760
They both look like they'd do you up the bum, to be fair.
>> No. 422765 Anonymous
8th December 2018
Saturday 8:45 pm
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>>422759
This might be the most tedious kind of post on .gs. It's bordering on meme forcing.
>> No. 422766 Anonymous
8th December 2018
Saturday 8:45 pm
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>>422762

> "poor people shouldn't have nice things"

I grew up as poor as arseholes and I still don't get what's wrong with that statement. Next you'll be telling me that poor people should be living in Mayfair and having caviar and cocaine for breakfast.

If you can't afford something then you can't afford it, simple as.
>> No. 422767 Anonymous
8th December 2018
Saturday 8:47 pm
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>>422762

>Aaaaaand we're back to "poor people shouldn't have nice things" again.

I guess that depends on your idea of "nice things".

If they quit smoking, they can afford to pay off the finest 40'' TV money can buy. More than that, if you smoke a pack a day, as many smokers do in adult age, you can pay for it cash after one or two months of not smoking.

Is that not a nice thing?

And if paupers have trouble with the concept of saving money for just two short months so they can buy a 40'' TV with their own money the third month, no payment plan, theirs to keep, then the problem isn't whether they should be allowed to smoke or not.
>> No. 422768 Anonymous
8th December 2018
Saturday 8:48 pm
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>>422765
You're right. Going around in circles about poor people is far more interesting.
>> No. 422769 Anonymous
8th December 2018
Saturday 8:57 pm
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Given that the vast majority of smokers are poor people, tobacco tax is pretty clearly a tax on the poor. Get rid of that and they'd be able to buy their TV right away.
>> No. 422770 Anonymous
8th December 2018
Saturday 9:01 pm
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>>422769

This.

Add a houmous tax and we're on even footing.
>> No. 422771 Anonymous
8th December 2018
Saturday 9:22 pm
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>>422769

By that logic, fuel tax is a tax that punishes the wealthy. After all, they're the ones barreling down the M1 in their Porsche Cayennes at 90 mph and 10 mpg. While you in your old Golf TDI get over four times that. You don't know what it's like to pay hundreds of quid of fuel tax a month that way! What, rich people shouldn't have nice things?

Stop taxing petrol. Let the richers have their fun.
>> No. 422772 Anonymous
8th December 2018
Saturday 9:33 pm
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>>422771

>they're the ones barreling down the M1 in their Porsche Cayennes at 90 mph and 10 mpg. While you in your old Golf TDI get over four times that

Isn't that the point? You're not really convincing me this is a bad thing.

Eat the rich.
>> No. 422773 Anonymous
8th December 2018
Saturday 9:50 pm
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>>422772

well it's the same kind of point as otherlad (or you?) arguing we need to abolish the tobacco tax. Essentially because that tax punishes certain people for doing things that other people don't want them doing.

Maybe all these taxes should much more honestly be named "I don't like you doing that tax".
>> No. 422774 Anonymous
8th December 2018
Saturday 9:52 pm
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>>422771
It's for similar reasons that re-nationalising the railways just helps bankers like me travel in from Guildford to the City every day; poor people don't commute an hour on the train.
>> No. 422775 Anonymous
8th December 2018
Saturday 10:09 pm
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>>422773

You're missing the point, then. We should tax rich people things because they can afford it, and not tax poor people things because they can't.

Tax free Stella and Benson, but huge hikes in Champagne and cigars. The class divide is still there, but the pooros have a leg up.
>> No. 422776 Anonymous
8th December 2018
Saturday 10:31 pm
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>>422775
But they'll just spend it on new TVs!
>> No. 422777 Anonymous
8th December 2018
Saturday 10:34 pm
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>>422775

>and not tax poor people things because they can't.


They seem to be able to afford fags just fine.
>> No. 422778 Anonymous
8th December 2018
Saturday 10:36 pm
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>>422775
>not tax poor people things because they can't.

Aren't most paupers drains on the system rather than net contributors?
>> No. 422779 Anonymous
8th December 2018
Saturday 10:51 pm
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>>422778

>Aren't most paupers drains on the system rather than net contributors?

Reminds me of the first time as a weelad when I heard my parents talk about the poll tax. I honestly thought they were talking about a POOR tax. "Poll" and "poor" sounding really near enough the same in a Norf London accent, you see.

So anyway, the lil'un me honestly thought the government was going to tax poor people for being poor.

Which would be an interesting concept.

You will probably argue that that is already being done with taxes on tobacco and alcohol. But that then means they are not strictly taxing poverty. Because even as a poor person you have a choice if you decide to smoke and drink. And a chain smoking rich person is just as much subject to that tax as a pauper.
>> No. 422780 Anonymous
8th December 2018
Saturday 11:28 pm
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>>422779
>a chain smoking rich person is just as much subject to that tax as a pauper

Yes. And I am no more forbidden from starving to death under a bridge than my boss' boss' boss would be in an equal situation either. We have achieved so much.
>> No. 422781 Anonymous
8th December 2018
Saturday 11:34 pm
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>>422780

When exactly did .gs become a playground for Marxist class struggle?
>> No. 422782 Anonymous
8th December 2018
Saturday 11:53 pm
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>>422781

It's always been that way, you bourgeois dog

I think a solid half of our userbase are currently in the 40% or above tax brackets, maybe we just feel guilty alright
>> No. 422783 Anonymous
8th December 2018
Saturday 11:56 pm
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>>422782

I was just being daft.

Still not sold on the idea though that poor people should be allowed to smoke because that's all they've got in life. and have a bigger telly than I've got at the moment
>> No. 422784 Anonymous
9th December 2018
Sunday 12:28 am
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>>422782
And the other half are on bennies.
>> No. 422785 Anonymous
9th December 2018
Sunday 1:26 am
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>>422784
Yeah, but were middle class about it. My bennies go on kitchen knives , kale and craft beer, because I'm disabled enough that I don't need to buy my own benzos.
>> No. 422786 Anonymous
9th December 2018
Sunday 1:47 am
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>>422785

>because I'm disabled enough that I don't need to buy my own benzos.

THE DREAM
>> No. 422787 Anonymous
9th December 2018
Sunday 2:00 am
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I really fancy some of them iced mince pies, are they any good?
>> No. 422788 Anonymous
9th December 2018
Sunday 9:34 am
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>>422779
>So anyway, the lil'un me honestly thought the government was going to tax poor people for being poor.

Banks already do this. I will leave you to make your own mind up about the connections and history between the banking industry and the government in this country.
>> No. 422789 Anonymous
9th December 2018
Sunday 10:04 am
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>>422788
What are those cheeky banksters up to now? Up to their old tricks again?
>> No. 422790 Anonymous
9th December 2018
Sunday 10:08 am
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>>422774
I get the feeling nationalised railways contribute to a sense of national cohesiveness. I've always wondered, if we'd privatised British Rail the way BR management wanted - as BR Plc, one big train company, would the demand for renationalisation be so high? I wouldn't underplay the value of having the whole country whining about fucking British Rail, rather than the system we've got now where Northerners complain about Northern Rail and Southerners complain about Southern Rail, but we can never just come together and unite around the fact that public or private we're all British and we're all terrible at running trains.

I'm not sure whether to file this under running a silly idea out too far to see where it goes, or under having skimread too much of The Rise and Fall of the British Nation
>> No. 422791 Anonymous
9th December 2018
Sunday 11:15 am
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>>422787
I've always felt the icing ruins the flavour and that at any rate, Christmas sweets should use powdered sugar for topping to symbolise snow. It's a bit like thick icing on a Stollen, not the same and not what Jesus would have wanted.

Although in keeping with the threads hijacking I will also point out that it is something one would expect to see in ASDA.

>>422789
They keep being outright reckless in lending to the poor. Especially at this time of year with all the George Baileys and three spirits going around.

>>422790
I rather think you would see arguments from both sides of how to fix British Rail. One big monopoly would certainly be subject to demands for it's breakup to bring competition into the calculation.

The fact that so many problems can be attributed to greedy franchise holders also provides a nifty common enemy to suppress English nationalism. People might start asking why they're subsidising the Taffy express if it was one big operation with high ticket prices for example.
>> No. 422792 Anonymous
9th December 2018
Sunday 1:02 pm
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I ruddy hate those adverts they have this time of year where they take a popular song, strip it back and have a woman singing it slowly.

Also, iced mince pies are just plain wrong.
>> No. 422793 Anonymous
9th December 2018
Sunday 1:30 pm
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>>422792
like this?
>> No. 422794 Anonymous
9th December 2018
Sunday 1:43 pm
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>>422791

>One big monopoly would certainly be subject to demands for it's breakup to bring competition into the calculation.

Competition tends to be good because it usually means prices fall and goods are produced more efficiently and more innovatively. And companies in competitive industries are usually more flexible and adaptable, because that is the only way they will survive. On the other hand, when competition gets too fierce, it can have a negative impact both on companies' earnings and how much they pay their employees, for example. And then there's the other end of the spectrum called cartelisation, where competitors avoid so-called runious competition and prices stay high and the companies themselves tend to lose their flexibility. There is also no great incentive for innovation. That's why cartelisation is usually illegal and cartels can be fined by national governments and the EU.

And then you can argue that some services are just so crucial to public wellbeing and the functioning of public life and infrastructure that they should be largely exempt from market forces, and therefore run by the government. Where the service itself that they provide is more important than whether or not it is being provided with utmost efficiency.

The NHS and the police are examples, and in my opinion also prisons. When it comes to the railway system, maybe not so much. At least in Britain, it's not THE backbone of public life, as many people have alternatives like cars, buses or flights. I think a healthy dose of private-sector competition is in everybody's interest. and the overall quality of service under nationalisation was not really as good as people like to remember.
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9th December 2018
Sunday 1:44 pm
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>>422793
More like this.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9AFMVMl9qE
>> No. 422796 Anonymous
9th December 2018
Sunday 1:50 pm
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>>422793

Pete Bums must be spinning in his grave.
>> No. 422797 Anonymous
9th December 2018
Sunday 2:50 pm
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>>422796
Surely Kesha has already seen to that.
>> No. 422798 Anonymous
9th December 2018
Sunday 2:57 pm
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>>422794
I'm not quite sure if there's anything to debate here. I was merely stating that we would see arguments for the national champion to be knee-capped to provide space for private bids. My own wider view on these things is that while certain systems direct towards outcomes a whole lot depends on the underlying culture that changes how private and public utilities operate which is hard to nurture/break.

Although, upon further reflection you don't hear many arguments for breaking up Network Rail despite the awkward relationship between itself and franchisers that feeds into the problem. Perhaps we need a mirror-universe AnCap Corbyn to argue that.
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9th December 2018
Sunday 4:35 pm
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Interesting video:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i86TwJxTx_g

Somewhat poor quality even for a VHS rip, but oh well.
>> No. 422801 Anonymous
9th December 2018
Sunday 5:57 pm
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>>422798
If you want a good laugh, read the story of RailTrack before it was nationalised as network rail.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/apr/01/transport.politics
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Selected Quotation / Sparknotes for the lazy bas--people who won't actually read it:
In the summer, after Railtrack confessed that the £600m worth of Italian tilting trains he had ordered would not, as promised, be able to reach 140mph on the new WCML, Richard Branson cheerily told an interviewer: "Do you know why we're changing the name of Virgin Trains? Cos they're fucked."
>> No. 422802 Anonymous
9th December 2018
Sunday 7:47 pm
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I think we need to invite Andrew around so we can have a word with him about ironing.
>> No. 422803 Anonymous
9th December 2018
Sunday 8:16 pm
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>>422802
Also, one of his dogs is fat, he should feed it less.
>> No. 422804 Anonymous
9th December 2018
Sunday 8:52 pm
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>>422798

Despite the weird, botched way in which we privatised the railways, I think it's entirely reasonable to call the effort a major success.
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9th December 2018
Sunday 10:45 pm
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>>422804
By that metric perhaps; that shouldn't be the only one.
>> No. 422806 Anonymous
9th December 2018
Sunday 10:47 pm
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>>422804

More passengers = better service? Come off it, lad.

Clearly you've never had to pay fifty quid to stand in the aisles on the Edinburgh - Kings Cross during peak hours.
>> No. 422807 Anonymous
10th December 2018
Monday 4:17 am
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>>422804
I always like to pedantically note that the uptick in that graph begins 15 minutes before privatisation.
We cheated the figures a bit by renationalising network rail and then giving railways a level of investment they'd not seen in decades. It's all well and good having passenger numbers spike without major cuts to the train operating companies profits, so long as you've got the government picking up the bill. You can say "oh, the subsidy per passenger mile is dropping off now", but that's the magic of investing in something: that's how it works. The question is "why didn't we do it earlier?" and the answer is, so far as I can tell, because trains hadn't started falling off the tracks and killing people with sufficiently alarming regularity.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0155998214000416
an interesting article.
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10th December 2018
Monday 4:59 am
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>>422807
Of course, one of the things that was touted, as with previous efforts, was that Joe public could be a part-owner of the company. Or pour their money into something that will leave them bailed out for half what they paid for it, or lose their (pre-tax) savings deductions.
>> No. 422830 Anonymous
12th December 2018
Wednesday 2:52 am
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>>422808

You have to remember that Britain was one of the most nationalised economies in the Western world in the mid-20th century. Trains, electricity, coal, even half the British car industry.

And some people made good money selling their shares at the right time. Part of the UK stock market bonanza of circa 1984-87 was fuelled by rallying shares of former UK government entities.
>> No. 422831 Anonymous
12th December 2018
Wednesday 3:13 am
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>>422830
I was referring specifically to Railtrack, who amongst other things opened up a share-save scheme in what must have been at least suspicion if not full knowledge that the company was going under long before vesting. While the shareholders got their much-reduced value, I'm not sure the share-save members ever got anything in return for the salary they sacrificed to join in.
>> No. 422832 Anonymous
12th December 2018
Wednesday 5:00 pm
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>A father-of-four refused a £200,000 lottery jackpot after being accused of having a faked 'winning' scratchcard today insisted: 'I'm no cheat.'

>Unemployed Eric Walker, 56, of Sheffield, claimed the big money win after saying he had scratched three matching symbols on the National Lottery's £3-a-time Pharoah's Fortune card.

>Sixteen co-ordinates are given on the cards which are used to scratch off squares on a grid in the hope of matching three pharaoh symbols. But lottery organisers Camelot have refused to pay up saying that one of the co-ordinates on the card was 'altered'. The winning co-ordinate F5 appears to have been changed to an E5 - something Mr Walker denies and says must be result of a misprint. In addition, both the F5 and E5 symbols have been scratched off.

>Mr Walker, who buys six scratchcards a day, has four children aged 14 months, two-and-a-half, three and nine years old. He said: 'In my eyes I've won £200,000 and I'm being cheated out of the money.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6487987/Father-four-refused-200-00-lottery-prize-says-Im-no-cheat.html

Six scratchies a day? This is why poor people are poor.
>> No. 422833 Anonymous
12th December 2018
Wednesday 5:56 pm
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>>422832

> Six scratchies a day? This is why poor people are poor.

Lotteries are an idiot tax anyway. From a mathematical finance vievpoint, the extremely low probability of winning substantial amounts of money means they're a piss poor investment.

But there we go again with poor people not knowing their maths.
>> No. 422834 Anonymous
12th December 2018
Wednesday 6:22 pm
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>>422833
>But there we go again with poor people not knowing their maths.

It's probably all part of Big Lotto's plan to corrupt the education system.
>> No. 422835 Anonymous
12th December 2018
Wednesday 7:02 pm
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>>422833
I actually consider it a rational investment for the desperate. If you don't possess the talent, intelligence, energy or opportunity to become wealthy by conventional means, why not try scratch cards? There's always a slight chance you'll be set for life. Investing a few quid in the stock market each week instead isn't going to make you the next Warren Buffet.

I realise this sounds disparaging but honestly, some people fundamentally lack the capability to become as wealthy as they would desire.
>> No. 422836 Anonymous
12th December 2018
Wednesday 7:11 pm
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>>422833
>Unemployed Eric Walker, 56
>Mr Walker, who buys six scratchcards a day, has four children aged 14 months, two-and-a-half, three and nine years old

That must be around £60 a day he's spending. I don't know about you but I certainly can't afford that working full-time in a decent job after my rent and tax come out. The final cheek of it is he must be getting his leg over pretty effortlessly at 56 with four young kids in tow and still has the time to allegedly cheat Camelot.

We mock him but maybe it is us who are the real fools.
>> No. 422837 Anonymous
12th December 2018
Wednesday 7:15 pm
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>>422835

That's about the long and short of it. It's also partially a cynical and easy money grab by those already possessing money to squeeze even more blood from the stone that is the poor. It's no coincidence that poor people are stupid, but if you went to an inner city comp where you worried more about not getting stabbed or brayed on the way home than making your grades, you probably would be too. The poor have to be kept poor.

It troubles me that in the last week or so there's been so much almost fucking Victorian era discourse about poverty around here. Sure the poor might be in a mess of their own making a lot of the time, but really, in the abundance of wealth we see in modern society, there's no reason they can't be allowed to live comfortably too. You're just being harsh because it makes you feel better about your own circumstances. This is exactly why the benefit scroungers narrative works so well- People would rather see other people worse off than them to feel superior, than they would everybody raised up a little bit.
>> No. 422838 Anonymous
12th December 2018
Wednesday 7:38 pm
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>>422837
>if you went to an inner city comp where you worried more about not getting stabbed or brayed on the way home than making your grades

More likely that you'd be beaten up if you were making your grades. You can accuse us of disparaging the poor, but they are the absolute worst for tall poppy syndrome. I still remember the looks I'd get at school if I used anything considered a 'big' word, even though the majority of them weren't even remotely highbrow.
>> No. 422839 Anonymous
12th December 2018
Wednesday 8:05 pm
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>>422838
Not him, but plenty of kids get cast as nerds or weirdos because they stick out, I don't think it's unique to the poor ones or a good reason to let the working class rot. I got laughed at in Year 11 English after I explained to Mrs Pugh I was listening to God Save You, Black Emperor on my phone, but that doesn't particularly effect my opinion on what education policy should look like.
>> No. 422840 Anonymous
12th December 2018
Wednesday 8:18 pm
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>>422838

It's only poor white people who act like that; the brown ones are very enthusiastic about education. I dunno why, I'm not a boffin.
>> No. 422841 Anonymous
12th December 2018
Wednesday 8:28 pm
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>>422833

If you have a spare quid and stand to win millions from it, I don't see the harm or the stupidity in taking that chance.

Putting four quid in the bank a week will probably net you about 20 pence profit over a year, and certainly if you waited a decade or so you might have enough to make a decent investment in something. Or you could just put four lucky dips on and think about how many swimming pools your mansion is going to have.

The statistics show how unlikely it is, but at the same time if I told you that every time you slap yourself in the face or drink a bit of your jizz you have a one in fifteen million chance of it making your wildest dreams come true, I'm willing to bet I'd catch you doing it at least a couple of times a day.
>> No. 422842 Anonymous
12th December 2018
Wednesday 9:31 pm
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>>422835

It's an investment that no rational person would undertake.

Let's say you spend 20 quid a week on lottery tickets. That's 1040 quid a year. Disregarding interest, that means that on average, you would have to win back £1040 a year just to break even. If you ever actually win a jackpot worth a few hundred grand or even millions, then naturally you will have recuperated all the money you've ever spent on lottery tickets in your life in one fell swoop, and your return on investment will then be astronomical.

But it's extremely unlikely that you will ever win a jackpot, let alone even win modest sums of money that will in the long run cover your expenses of £1040 a year in lottery tickets.

What clouds people's judgement is the outsize sum of money that you can win if you are really actually lucky enough to beat the several-million-to-one odds.

The only way that playing the lottery makes even remote economic sense is if you don't see it as an investment, but as a good you consume. The thrill of playing the lottery could be seen as something that derives utility for you from the 20 quid you spend. It may not be a sound investment, but if you have fun while you are pissing your £20 up the wall, then that's also something.
>> No. 422843 Anonymous
12th December 2018
Wednesday 9:44 pm
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>>422837
>It troubles me that in the last week or so there's been so much almost fucking Victorian era discourse about poverty around here.

Oh do fuck off your moralising cunt. At the very least get your history right, a very British complex over the undeserving poor was in place long before the Victorian Era.

>>422841
>Putting four quid in the bank a week will probably net you about 20 pence profit over a year, and certainly if you waited a decade or so you might have enough to make a decent investment in something. Or you could just put four lucky dips on and think about how many swimming pools your mansion is going to have.

What if I put the money towards a nest egg so my children might escape poverty or maybe even creating some financial security for the household? Maybe if people thought this way (the correct way) we might see more social mobility in this country beyond daddy state coming to help you.

>The statistics show how unlikely it is, but at the same time if I told you that every time you slap yourself in the face or drink a bit of your jizz you have a one in fifteen million chance of it making your wildest dreams come true, I'm willing to bet I'd catch you doing it at least a couple of times a day.

Of course I would because there is nothing lost unless I hit myself especially hard.
>> No. 422844 Anonymous
12th December 2018
Wednesday 9:45 pm
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>>422841

>Putting four quid in the bank a week will probably net you about 20 pence profit over a year, and certainly if you waited a decade or so you might have enough to make a decent investment in something.

That's the point; if you spend your four quid on lottery tickets, then very likely that money is gone and will never really come back unless you actually hit the jackpot. Even with the odd £10 to £20 you will win now and then, your return on investment will still be negative. But if you keep putting £4 a week in an ISA, that's £208 a year, and if you keep doing it, just for argument's sake at 2% annual interest, you can accumulate roughly £2,300 in ten years. Which may not sound exciting, but it's a positive return on investment, and thus will always be better than spending 4 quid a week on the very remote chance that you will become a millionaire.
>> No. 422846 Anonymous
12th December 2018
Wednesday 9:56 pm
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>>422842

>The only way that playing the lottery makes even remote economic sense is if you don't see it as an investment, but as a good you consume.

Well, quite. I don't think even the poorest scumbag (that still somehow HAS A BIG TELLY) thinks the lotto is an investment. They're aware it's gambling.
>> No. 422847 Anonymous
12th December 2018
Wednesday 9:59 pm
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>>422844

>you can accumulate roughly £2,300 in ten years.

That's basically negligible even for someone on benefits. Even on minimum wage it's the equivalent of working about two hours extra a month. Would you work two hours extra a month if your company offered £8m in bonuses for the person who worked the 4 millionth hour?
>> No. 422848 Anonymous
12th December 2018
Wednesday 10:19 pm
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>>422847
Considering that's about 5 minutes a day and I never manage to fuck off bang on 5 anyway I might. That's getting into a good conversation with a colleague pay or doing an inane email. Having £2,300 in the bank as a cushion meanwhile would be a real comfort to most people.

Just picture what kind of big telly £2,300 could get you. Maybe not the sort the poor are accustomed to but it'll do for the conservatory.
>> No. 422849 Anonymous
12th December 2018
Wednesday 10:22 pm
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>>422848

>Just picture what kind of big telly £2,300 could get you

Yeah, but you'd have to wait ten years to save up for it.
>> No. 422850 Anonymous
12th December 2018
Wednesday 10:26 pm
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>>422849

True; but in ten years, they'll also have much nicer tellies for that money.
>> No. 422851 Anonymous
12th December 2018
Wednesday 10:31 pm
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>>422850
That depends on whether or not the pound holds its value.
>> No. 422852 Anonymous
12th December 2018
Wednesday 10:35 pm
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>>422848

There's a new movement called the frugalists, I believe. Their plan is to pretty much not spend any money at all that they earn from gainful employment, and then retire at 40.

Some never go on holiday, own a car, or even live in a kind of flat that their salary would well allow. These aren't people on minimum wage, mind, they are often university educated and make very decent money. They've just taken penny pinching to a whole new level.
>> No. 422853 Anonymous
12th December 2018
Wednesday 10:40 pm
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When I was little I always wanted one of those Cadbury's vending machine toys. You put in your 10p and you get a miniature Dairy Milk; you can open it up and get all your coins back in the end.

That's what we need for paupers. Some form of scheme where they save as they go along with their vices. We increase the price of a pack of fags by £1 and we secretly save up all these extra pounds and give them back to them at the end of the year of something. If someone smokes 200 packs a year then that's £200 they've saved up. If they decide to blow that £200 on more fags then at least they're giving their savings for the year after a head start. Or maybe we don't even increase the price of the packet of fags and we just launch a really cheap no-frills brand called Paupers in plain white packaging.
>> No. 422854 Anonymous
12th December 2018
Wednesday 11:13 pm
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>>422853

All cigarettes come in the same packaging now anyway. Keep up, toff.
>> No. 422855 Anonymous
12th December 2018
Wednesday 11:16 pm
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>>422853

> Some form of scheme where they save as they go along with their vices. We increase the price of a pack of fags by £1 and we secretly save up all these extra pounds and give them back to them at the end of the year of something. If someone smokes 200 packs a year then that's £200 they've saved up.


That's just going to give people the wrong incentive.

Also, put yourself in the mind of an uneducated dolescum pauper. He or she won't do the maths that they are putting away £1 for every pack and then get back £200 in the end. They will complain that you're charging them a quid more, and then when they do get the money, as you are probably right in assuming, they will just blow it again on more fags.

As we have established in this thread before, many poor people are poor because they just have no good concept of money. And their tellies are far too big.
>> No. 422858 Anonymous
13th December 2018
Thursday 10:00 am
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>>422853
I did too but I just wanted the chocolate.
>> No. 422859 Anonymous
13th December 2018
Thursday 10:08 am
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>>422853
I had one.
It was impossible to get refills.
>> No. 422863 Anonymous
13th December 2018
Thursday 4:28 pm
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Elderly woman cuts down flashing Christmas lights after sneaking into family's garden in middle of night

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/woman-cuts-christmas-lights-watch-video-cctv-facebook-cottingham-hull-a8679246.html

>>422858>>422859
Did they also do Bournville versions of these or am I imagining it?
>> No. 422864 Anonymous
13th December 2018
Thursday 4:36 pm
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>>422863

>Did they also do Bournville versions of these

They did. My mate had that version and I was annoyed because I didn't like dark chocolate as a kid. Never forgave him.
>> No. 422865 Anonymous
13th December 2018
Thursday 5:02 pm
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>>422863

>Armed with a pair of scissors and under the cover of darkness the “Scrooge” was caught on CCTV as she shuffled up to a tree and cut the wires to stop the flashing lights.

She was lucky they weren't the older style 230-volt lights. I think they have to be 12 V nowadays by law, or of similar low voltage. But I seem to remember that that wasn't always the case.
>> No. 422866 Anonymous
13th December 2018
Thursday 5:28 pm
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>>422863
Call me crazy lads but I think tonight onward is the correct time to be putting decorations up. You do them 12 days before Christmas and then take them down on Twelfth Night to get a nice +/- balance.

So the family will get no sympathy from me.
>> No. 422867 Anonymous
13th December 2018
Thursday 11:08 pm
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>>422866
I'm yet to put mine up, last year I didn't even bother.
>> No. 422868 Anonymous
13th December 2018
Thursday 11:16 pm
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I just got invited to a new years eve party.

Thankfully that's sorted now. I was getting worried I'd spend this year at home all by myself, but now it turns out a distant acquaintance of mine is throwing a party where one of my good friends is invited, who was originally going to spend new years eve bonking just with his girlfriend, but they've now decided to go to that party and told me I could tag along.

Still feels like a bit of a pity invite, but I'll take it any way I can get it at this point.
>> No. 422869 Anonymous
13th December 2018
Thursday 11:25 pm
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Not to be smug but I'm not completely short of ideas, yet I always found something cosy about being alone and in bed on NYE.

Everybody else out late, forcing themselves to drink and stay up, hungover in the new year. Meanwhile I can start mine with a nice fresh walk first thing and a good breakfast.
>> No. 422870 Anonymous
13th December 2018
Thursday 11:35 pm
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>>422869

I've always found New Year's Eve to be a massive anticlimax. The lull between midnight and 1am is existentially bleak.
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13th December 2018
Thursday 11:36 pm
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>>422869

>yet I always found something cosy about being alone and in bed on NYE.

Not me. Not being able to secure a party invite on the one night of the year when near enough everybody is having a party of some description always seemed like a sign of failure to me.
>> No. 422873 Anonymous
14th December 2018
Friday 6:53 am
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>>422870
New Year's Eve is the night of forced fun; it's the worst occasion for going out and getting pissed.
>> No. 422874 Anonymous
14th December 2018
Friday 7:08 am
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>>422873

But it's an occasion nonetheless.
>> No. 422875 Anonymous
14th December 2018
Friday 8:31 am
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>>422870

Absolutely agree lads.

I've never understood why people look forward to the nights they know the bars will be absolutely rammed, everything will be expensive and it will be a logistical nightmare.

People tell me these things shouldn't matter but they absolutely do, there's nothing fun about waiting an hour for a taxi (if you're lucky) and them charging you double. These things absolutely do make a difference.

>>422871
Why? This is my point though, I'm not short of options, I'd just rather spend it in bed. Even so, I've gone years with few options and I'm not some friendless outcast.

I think NYE is a funny one because people either have little family ones, spend it with a loved one, or go all out on the lash and spend £50 on some tickets to get intoa shit bar. If you're a single lad it might be easy to fall through the social cracks.
>> No. 422876 Anonymous
14th December 2018
Friday 8:44 am
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In my experience New Years is the time all the normal people decide they're going to 'go crazy' and do a bit of coke or pills a d also start drinking at 5pm, leaving those who are wreckheads year round to stop people choking on their own vomit at 12.30.

It's unfair.
>> No. 422877 Anonymous
14th December 2018
Friday 10:32 am
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>>422868>>422869
My sense of unwarranted self-importance would probably reject any kind of pity invite.
But then, I'm the person to whom the idea of spending several days in a row alone sounds rather appealing.
The first fresh walk in the morning is the dog's, it's all silent and dead outside.
>> No. 422878 Anonymous
14th December 2018
Friday 12:20 pm
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I remember working in the sales on Jan 1st or something, pretty much every single customer that morning was a sad looking middle aged or older anorak bloke. That's who you lot talking about early morning walks remind me of.
Not going to lie, it still sounds appealing.
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14th December 2018
Friday 12:28 pm
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>>422877

I guess it's not unlike a pity shag. You are getting laid because somebody pitied you for being an unfucked sad case. But you are getting laid nonetheless. The more you ignore the fact that somebody isn't doing it because they really want to, the more you will enjoy yourself.
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14th December 2018
Friday 1:39 pm
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HO! HO! HO! MERRY SLAGMAS.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6495325/Santa-hatted-revellers-hit-streets-Britain-biggest-Christmas-party-night-year.html
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14th December 2018
Friday 3:40 pm
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>>422880

It's always nice to see people with learning disabilities being integrated into society.
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14th December 2018
Friday 3:41 pm
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Things have been going really well for Darren since the lottery win.
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14th December 2018
Friday 3:41 pm
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Oi mate, you dropped your santa hat.
>> No. 422885 Anonymous
14th December 2018
Friday 3:45 pm
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You aren't funny.
>> No. 422886 Anonymous
14th December 2018
Friday 3:46 pm
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"If I've told you once, I've told you a thousand times - the proletariat cannot begin to reclaim the means of production without first internalising dialectical materialism."
>> No. 422887 Anonymous
14th December 2018
Friday 3:47 pm
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>>422885

Neither are you.
>> No. 422888 Anonymous
14th December 2018
Friday 3:50 pm
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>>422880

I really shouldn't be into women like the one on the right as much as I am. If they have big tits and they're wearing something that shows most of that, I just can't look away. Plus they're always filth.

Also, that's the Bigg Market innit. Most of these are in Newcastle now I look. It's funny that some photographer from the Mail must get sent up on a train every year to go on slag safari.
>> No. 422889 Anonymous
14th December 2018
Friday 4:28 pm
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>>422878
Prolly other folks who got the bad luck of working on the 1st of January.
Back in my phone support days I worked a 31.12-01.01 night shift once. There's this call at 02:30 in the night, from some drunk bloke who's mumbling illegibly then out of sudden it was almost as if he got sober in split-second, with moderate astonishment and disbelief noticeable in his voice: 'What, did you just pick up the phone? Working in the New Year night? For real?'
>>422879
Might be. There is a reason why I specifically mentioned unwarranted self-importance.
>>422888
I'm not into those either but it's still a shameful 'would'.
>> No. 422890 Anonymous
14th December 2018
Friday 4:57 pm
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>>422888
Her tits aren't that big, relatively speaking. If she lost weight then they'd shrivel down to about an A cup.

What's causing the stirring in your loins is her choice of outfit. She's broadcasting to the world that she's cheap and easy. She's got no shame and little inhibitions so she'd do owt, the mucky cow.
>> No. 422891 Anonymous
14th December 2018
Friday 5:10 pm
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>>422890

I know, I'm aware of both of your points. I know I shouldn't be so drawn to her big floppy flabby tits, or thrilled at the idea of bonking someone who is essentially out to be bonked. It's the closest you get to hedonism up north, I suppose.
>> No. 422892 Anonymous
14th December 2018
Friday 6:09 pm
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>>422891

Everyone secretly likes greedy girls, they just wouldn't admit it to their mates.

Southerners don't understand the meaning of hedonism, not really. They're too self conscious, they've got "standards". They sneered at chips and gravy, but now they're going wild for poutine. They took the piss out of proper beer in dimpled mugs and now they're all craft ale twats. In the 2050s they'll rediscover the joys of hard house, blue booze and chlamydia and act like they invented it.
>> No. 422893 Anonymous
15th December 2018
Saturday 8:51 am
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LadBaby for Christmas No. 1.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iEB8bfP7wE
>> No. 422894 Anonymous
15th December 2018
Saturday 12:06 pm
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>>422893
If I wanted to watch someone fake laugh at their own hilarity I'd choose Jimmy Carr.
>> No. 422895 Anonymous
15th December 2018
Saturday 1:07 pm
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>>422893

These two always give off a slightly sinister vibe. I can't really put my finger on why, or what it is I think makes them a pair of wrong'uns, but some ancient lizard part of my brain recognises them as a threat.
>> No. 422896 Anonymous
15th December 2018
Saturday 1:19 pm
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>>422895
Maybe their shitty acting coming across as duplicitous?
>> No. 422897 Anonymous
15th December 2018
Saturday 1:20 pm
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>>422895
They don't seem sincere; it's all a bit forced. I guess it's the equivalent of Top Gear for mundane parents.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcuBt5qVFEA
>> No. 422898 Anonymous
15th December 2018
Saturday 8:13 pm
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>>422897
I fancy her a bit.
>> No. 422899 Anonymous
15th December 2018
Saturday 8:18 pm
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>>422898
Her 'acting' skills at 1:10 reminds me of Ava Dalush in her Public Agent video.
>> No. 422900 Anonymous
15th December 2018
Saturday 8:29 pm
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>>422899

That is truly a fantastic video, though.
>> No. 422901 Anonymous
15th December 2018
Saturday 8:55 pm
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>>422900
I've most likely shot my muck to that more than any other porn film in recent years; it's one of my reliable go-to videos if I fancy bashing one out.

Nobody quite does filth like your British slag.
>> No. 422902 Anonymous
15th December 2018
Saturday 8:58 pm
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>>422901

I like british pornstars a lot, I find it much harder to find the american ones appealing as most of them don't seem like real humans. Whereas all the british ones, or at least the majority, just look like exes or birds you used to go to school with.
>> No. 422903 Anonymous
15th December 2018
Saturday 9:11 pm
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>>422902
It's definitely part of the appeal. American pornstars look hideously superficial whereas a British pornstar, like Ava Dalush, looks like the kind of minx that someone fingered behind the bike sheds at school.

Speaking of which, I actually went to school with the lass on the right:-

https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=1778804214

Merry fucking Christmas.
>> No. 422904 Anonymous
16th December 2018
Sunday 12:46 am
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>>422902
I like how the videos often feature a bit of cheery back and forth tinged with an awareness of how absurd it all is. Sadly I've yet to encounter one where the subject of the weather comes up or a slow-mo shot of a teabag being dunked because she's a good host.

I'll follow this idea a little further and suggest my ideal pornography is a 4-part mini-series about a northern romance between a simple bloke and a curvy northern lass. Lots of clever innuendo and situational/absurd comedy like if late-night BBC Three in the 00s did porn. He meets her on a night out and to start off he's a bit embarrassed but she gives him exactly what he needs and clearly smitten together the sexual tension often boils over.
>> No. 422905 Anonymous
16th December 2018
Sunday 1:04 am
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>>422904

I feel like the obsession with the mundane is the crucial difference between British and American culture. There is nothing idealised in british world view it is about the quite grounded in miserable. I think it is why we do dystopia better. We can strip away everything fantastical about an imaginary setting and make it feel like a chore to exist there.
>> No. 422906 Anonymous
16th December 2018
Sunday 3:02 am
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>>422905

>We can strip away everything fantastical about an imaginary setting and make it feel like a chore to exist there.

The Americans can't ever let their exuberant fluffiness go for just a moment. That's the problem. Pessimism about life just isn't a very American trait even when it is really due.

Which in its own way should make life in America even more shit.
>> No. 422908 Anonymous
16th December 2018
Sunday 4:15 am
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>>422905

American entertainment has taught you to believe that reality is depressing, which is exactly what their advertisers pay them to do. American media rarely depicts ordinary people living fulfilling lives. Either they live in an impossibly glossy alternate reality where money is no object, or they're victims and perpetrators in a gritty nightmare. It's a weaponised false dichotomy, used to make ordinary people feel inadequate about their ordinary lives. If every house you see on TV is either infinitely nicer than yours or a crack den, you're going to start thinking that something is wrong with you.

This dichotomy extends to porn. The majority of mainstream American porn depicts either a) unreasonably attractive people having unreasonably athletic sex in an LA mansion or b) a borderline rape scenario of the "casting couch" or "hot cheerleader gets brutally punished" variety. There's no room in their culture for ordinary people in an ordinary house/lay-by/pub car park having marginally above-average sex.

I like porn that's a bit cheeky and fun. I like scenarios that are mucky but vaguely plausible. I like seeing tatty skirting boards and wonky laminate flooring and a little bit of cellulite. I like the fact that Lara Latex and Jim Slip are a real couple.
>> No. 422909 Anonymous
16th December 2018
Sunday 7:40 am
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>>422904
>a simple bloke and a curvy northern lass. Lots of clever innuendo

Busty Nastyshag is often joking with the cameraman throughout her videos. Here she is getting fucked near Hessle Foreshore.

https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph575ac062c176d
>> No. 422910 Anonymous
16th December 2018
Sunday 9:56 am
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>>422908

I think Pascal White and Andy have perfected the art of the British slag documentary, and they do not get nearly enough credit for the quality and consistency of their collected works.
>> No. 422911 Anonymous
16th December 2018
Sunday 11:27 am
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Don't have kids, lads.

I've been stood around in the cold for two hours and I can't feel my feet. There's still about an hour and a half to go before the tournament's finished.
>> No. 422912 Anonymous
16th December 2018
Sunday 11:55 am
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Bought anyone anything nice this year lads?

I got a twitter friend 2500 bots but didn't tell him. They've been steadily following his account since yesterday, it's nearing the half way mark now.
>> No. 422913 Anonymous
16th December 2018
Sunday 12:29 pm
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>>422912
For Secret Santa the lass who worships Tommy Robinson (>>/job/12784) is getting a framed picture of a donation made on her behalf to refugees in Calais.
>> No. 422915 Anonymous
16th December 2018
Sunday 12:46 pm
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>>422908
> unreasonably attractive people
No. Too glossy.
I don't give much fucks about cellulite, there is just a difference between being attractive and being a poster for Applied Photoshop Year 1 course.
They don't seem to do that to their male models though but maybe I haven't paid enough attention to that.
Then again, it's been a long time I've watched even vanilla porn. Perhaps things changed.
>>422906
> Which in its own way should make life in America even more shit.
If I were to believe immigrant tales about USA, it is shite.
I don't quite do for several reasons but even without that I've heard a fair share of stories about 'crass optimism' shoved down people's throats.
>> No. 422916 Anonymous
16th December 2018
Sunday 1:02 pm
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>>422910

To be fair, Pascal has won the SHAFTA for best male performer three times.

I'm not a massive fan of the rough stuff TBH, but Pascal and Andy have shot some phenomenal scenes. Red Rose, Caitlin Minx and Cassie de la Rage spring to mind.

It's a minor thing, but you might have noticed the piles of well-thumbed books all over Andy's flat. As someone with more than a passing familiarity with the reprobates who run the adult film industry, I cannot tell you how rare it is to find someone who actually reads books.
>> No. 422917 Anonymous
16th December 2018
Sunday 1:07 pm
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>>422916
It's a little hard to take seriously when you do.
>> No. 422918 Anonymous
16th December 2018
Sunday 1:08 pm
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>>422912
I don't make Christmas hard on myself, there's an implicit agreement with my dad to only ever buy him a packet of sweets which spread into the kinds of gifts I get for everyone else. Skint gifts are the best gifts in my experience.

Work got a tin of roses, thinking about getting my 13 year old nephew Don Quixote if I can find a decent edition and work out what would be a good book for his 9 year old brother. Was going to get my mother a rice cooker before I realised it would only collect dust and she thinks I'm enough of a weeb already.

>>422913
Just seems spiteful tbh.
>> No. 422919 Anonymous
16th December 2018
Sunday 1:47 pm
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>>422913
Now thats excellent work lad - exactly how Secret Santa should be used.
>> No. 422920 Anonymous
16th December 2018
Sunday 2:56 pm
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>>422918
>work out what would be a good book for his 9 year old brother

The general consensus (>>/lit/5761) is Artemis Fowl or the Bartimaeus Trilogy.
>> No. 422921 Anonymous
16th December 2018
Sunday 5:23 pm
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>>422920
Yeah, I'd already given it a bit of a skim through. The problem though is making sure to get a good print. The Artemis Fowl collection can be gotten cheaply (although I fear it could prove a little advanced) but Don Quixote is whole different kettle of fish.

Take for example this edition that is translated into a graphic novel:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Complete-Don-Quixote-Rob-Davis/dp/1906838658

Seems grand by all the reviews but, well, it's 296 pages which is about a third of the original in page-count and is a graphic novel (I've read maybe one or two but I'm not sure if this would give him the reading bug). Maybe I'll just email some Spanish-Literature academic and see if they have a recommendation.
>> No. 422922 Anonymous
16th December 2018
Sunday 6:36 pm
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>>422921
Are you sure he'd actually enjoy Don Quixote? I tried reading it in my twenties but gave up because it felt like too much of a chore and wasn't maintaining my interest. Then again, I find the language used in most books before the Victorian era to be too dry.
>> No. 422925 Anonymous
16th December 2018
Sunday 7:28 pm
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>>422918
>Skint gifts are the best gifts in my experience.

Could not agree more. I'm not skint, but for various reasons we're having quite a frugal Xmas this year - brings the best out in people's gift choices when they have a tight family budget to work to.
>> No. 422926 Anonymous
16th December 2018
Sunday 8:07 pm
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Don Quixote is a strange gift for a teenager who hasn't yet got the so-called reading bug. Perhaps he would enjoy some PlayStation points more.
>> No. 422930 Anonymous
16th December 2018
Sunday 9:16 pm
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>>422922
I reckon chances are good on it. He's a lot like me and the book is read by young ages (hence the proliferation of illustrated editions).

You should try again.

>>422926
Heresy. I want to ensure the next generation of the family at least has a good chance on these things. Their enjoyment is secondary.
>> No. 422932 Anonymous
16th December 2018
Sunday 11:16 pm
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>>422925

i always try buy thoughtful gifts rather than lavish ones. I think being skint forces your hand in that regard, you have to make sure it's something they'll really appreciate when you can't afford more than ten quid on them.
>> No. 422935 Anonymous
17th December 2018
Monday 1:06 am
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I said "just" instead of "does", what an imbecile.
>> No. 422941 Anonymous
17th December 2018
Monday 7:56 am
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>>422932
I just ask people what they want, apart from my parents because I'll invariably get them theatre tickets. Most people can afford to buy what they'd truly want anyway, so it saves the hassle of getting something they won't like.
>> No. 422942 Anonymous
17th December 2018
Monday 2:34 pm
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>FOR millions it's the sound of the festive season, but the boss of a UK pub chain has banned Wham's Last Christmas from his bars.

>All 231 Fuller's Inns pubs have removed the iconic song from their Christmas playlists - but there's a good reason why.

>Jonathan Swaine, managing director of Fuller's Inns, made the controversial decision to ban the song to help drinkers playing this year's viral game: "Whamageddon".

>The game was made popular this year by breakfast radio show host Dave Berry on Absolute Radio.

>It gives people the impossible task of going without listening to the classic 1984 hit by George Michael and Wham bandmate Andrew Ridgeley until midnight on Christmas Day.

>Now Mr Swaine is helping punters play by ordering his bars not to blast out the iconic song - but if you do hear it at one of his pubs, you can have a free drink.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcHldSZX99g
>> No. 422943 Anonymous
17th December 2018
Monday 3:14 pm
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>>422942
So, is this just someone knocking off the Pogues Game?
>> No. 422944 Anonymous
17th December 2018
Monday 5:53 pm
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>>422942
>Now Mr Swaine is helping punters play by ordering his bars not to blast out the iconic song - but if you do hear it at one of his pubs, you can have a free drink.

So if I fancy a cheap night I can just give a m8 a tenner to come in and out with a boombox not only getting me drinks but also the fat lasses that got barred from 'spoons?

It's a shame the age of true internet mischief are beyond us.
>> No. 422945 Anonymous
17th December 2018
Monday 6:20 pm
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>>422944
>the fat lasses that got barred from 'spoons

The last time I was in an establishment with such women they were talking about 'steak shits'.
>> No. 422952 Anonymous
18th December 2018
Tuesday 10:24 am
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>YouTube “dad blogger” LadBaby is poised to snatch the Christmas number one from Ariana Grande and Mariah Carey with his viral hit song.

>Mark Hoyle, who found fame posting videos about his “lad to dad” parenting journey on social media, has stormed to number two in the charts with his cover of Starship’s We Built This City. Instead of the original song’s declaration that the titular city is built on “rock and roll”, LadBaby version credits sausage rolls.

>The father-of-one from Hemel Hempstead is 508 sales and streams ahead of Grande’s song Thank U, Next and just 978 sales behind US singer Ava Max, who tops the midweek chart update with Sweet But Psycho.

https://inews.co.uk/news/christmas-number-one-ladbaby-ariana-grande-we-built-this-city-sausage-rolls/

LadBaby for Christmas No. 1!
>> No. 422954 Anonymous
18th December 2018
Tuesday 12:51 pm
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>>422952

>who found fame posting videos about his “lad to dad” parenting journey on social media

I miss the old days before the Internet.
>> No. 422960 Anonymous
18th December 2018
Tuesday 2:32 pm
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>>422954
HE WAS A TOP LAD
NOW HE'S A TOP DAD
IT'S MAKING YOU SAD
THAT HIS VIDEOS ARE CONTRIVED AND BAD
HE'S NOT AN AGENT OF MOSSAD
OR A FOOTBALLER FOR SOCIEDAD
YOU'VE NOT BEEN HAD
AND HIS FAUX LOVE OF SAUSAGE ROLLS DOESNT MAKE YOU GLAD
I'D FUCK HIS WIFE A TAD
>> No. 422961 Anonymous
18th December 2018
Tuesday 3:04 pm
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>>422960

PotY
>> No. 422963 Anonymous
18th December 2018
Tuesday 3:08 pm
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>>422960
Yes maaaaaaaaate.
>> No. 422964 Anonymous
18th December 2018
Tuesday 3:27 pm
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>>422960

>HE'S NOT AN AGENT OF MOSSAD

How can you be so sure.
>> No. 422968 Anonymous
18th December 2018
Tuesday 5:41 pm
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>>422964
Why would Mossad be promoting sausage rolls?
>> No. 422971 Anonymous
18th December 2018
Tuesday 6:05 pm
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>>422968

Why would they not.

Nobody would suspect them.

The perfect crime.
>> No. 422974 Anonymous
18th December 2018
Tuesday 6:29 pm
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>>422971
What do they stand to gain from it?
>> No. 422977 Anonymous
18th December 2018
Tuesday 7:03 pm
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How many of you lot still have presents to buy? Just bought my first out of around 10.
>> No. 422978 Anonymous
18th December 2018
Tuesday 7:12 pm
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>>422977

Of course I still have presents to buy. They made the mistake of putting a weekend directly before it this year, so naturally that's when I'll rush around looking for something.

I usually do pretty well when I go last minute. There's something about working under pressure that makes me think more creatively. Like last year when I had the brainwave of getting by missus a slush puppy machine while I was sat in the food court of the shopping centre. She was chuffed to bits with it too.
>> No. 422980 Anonymous
18th December 2018
Tuesday 7:24 pm
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>>422977
I've bought one. About twenty-twelve to go.
>> No. 422983 Anonymous
18th December 2018
Tuesday 7:51 pm
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>>422977
I only really have to buy for my girlfriend at Christmas. She organises it for pretty much everyone else because she's a worrier and started fretting about it 2/3 weeks ago; I just tell her what I want to get other people and she arranges it for me.
>> No. 422987 Anonymous
18th December 2018
Tuesday 8:19 pm
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Katie Price distraught after vile troll mocks disabled son Harvey with cruel Christmas jumper

https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/katie-price-distraught-after-vile-13750584
>> No. 422988 Anonymous
18th December 2018
Tuesday 8:32 pm
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>>422987

They're quoting him (partially). How Is that mockery?
>> No. 422989 Anonymous
18th December 2018
Tuesday 8:40 pm
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>>422977

I've got stuff for everyone other than my missus, she's very hard to buy for, and doesn't like 'big' presents. I'd love to get her a new bike but she'd go off it.

Chocolate mould of my cock it is then, for the fourth year running
>> No. 422990 Anonymous
18th December 2018
Tuesday 8:40 pm
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>>422988

I can see why Katie Price is upset, but I genuinely don't think it's mockery - Harvey is a fucking legend.
>> No. 422993 Anonymous
18th December 2018
Tuesday 9:12 pm
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Just looked up Harvey's disability - Prader-Willi - apparently it makes you obese from being always hungry. How shit would that be, on top of the intellectual impairment.
>> No. 422995 Anonymous
18th December 2018
Tuesday 9:14 pm
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>>422993

I think I have that.
>> No. 422996 Anonymous
18th December 2018
Tuesday 9:14 pm
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>>422952
I bought a load of sausage rolls because of that song and I bet I won't be the only one.

>>422988
She doesn't appreciate the competition when someone else rolls him out for attention.
>> No. 423002 Anonymous
18th December 2018
Tuesday 11:32 pm
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>>422996

>I bought a load of sausage rolls because of that song and I bet I won't be the only one.

The Mossad at work. I rest my case.
>> No. 423003 Anonymous
18th December 2018
Tuesday 11:48 pm
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>>423002

I have no idea why Mossad would want you to buy more pork products, but I'm sure they're playing n-dimensional hyperchess.
>> No. 423006 Anonymous
19th December 2018
Wednesday 7:00 am
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>>423003
Think about it. If you encourage the population of other nations to gain weight and lead a sedentary lifestyle then you're putting yourself at an advantage for when ITZ.
>> No. 423008 Anonymous
19th December 2018
Wednesday 10:37 am
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>>423006

Fat people will survive longer in the nuclear winter.
>> No. 423013 Anonymous
19th December 2018
Wednesday 1:38 pm
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>>423003

> but I'm sure they're playing n-dimensional hyperchess.

Now you're getting it.
>> No. 423019 Anonymous
19th December 2018
Wednesday 4:23 pm
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Sorry, but I need to ask again, does anyone want to buy some £500 headphones for £1000?
>> No. 423020 Anonymous
19th December 2018
Wednesday 7:25 pm
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>>423019

U WOT M8?
>> No. 423021 Anonymous
19th December 2018
Wednesday 8:00 pm
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>>423020
It's just I have literally no money right now and if I had £1000 I could fix all the problems in my life and help my mum out and still have enough left over to buy my dad new glasses.
>> No. 423022 Anonymous
19th December 2018
Wednesday 8:10 pm
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>>423019
No lad. How did you end up with some £500 headphones?
>> No. 423023 Anonymous
19th December 2018
Wednesday 8:14 pm
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>>423022

He probably bought them?
>> No. 423024 Anonymous
19th December 2018
Wednesday 8:16 pm
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>>423022

Buyer's remorse?
>> No. 423025 Anonymous
19th December 2018
Wednesday 8:16 pm
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>>423023
If that's the case, that's probably why he has so many problems in his life and no money.
>> No. 423026 Anonymous
19th December 2018
Wednesday 8:36 pm
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I inherited them, if you must know. I can throw in some slightly musty vinyl just for the P&P if you like.
>> No. 423027 Anonymous
19th December 2018
Wednesday 8:51 pm
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>>423026
Then I must apologise for the assertion I made in >>423022
>> No. 423028 Anonymous
19th December 2018
Wednesday 8:52 pm
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>>423027
Oh, well, thank you.
>> No. 423029 Anonymous
19th December 2018
Wednesday 9:13 pm
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Still need a Christmas present for my mum.

Suggestions welcome.
>> No. 423030 Anonymous
19th December 2018
Wednesday 9:22 pm
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>>423029
Does she miss the Cadbury's of yesteryear?

https://lovecocoa.com/
>> No. 423031 Anonymous
19th December 2018
Wednesday 9:23 pm
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>>423029
Can't go wrong with a new mug
>> No. 423032 Anonymous
19th December 2018
Wednesday 9:25 pm
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>>423030
You can get this for about £4 from shops.
>> No. 423034 Anonymous
19th December 2018
Wednesday 9:41 pm
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>>423032
Are they the original recipes? Or just an oily facsimile?
>> No. 423035 Anonymous
19th December 2018
Wednesday 10:03 pm
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>>423034
I think it's the current recipes but with the old logos on the packaging.
>> No. 423077 Anonymous
21st December 2018
Friday 12:58 pm
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I've become what I despise.

I was in Morrisons earlier and someone accidentally smashed a bottle of wine on the floor. I instinctively shouted out "sack the juggler!" Fuck's sake.
>> No. 423080 Anonymous
21st December 2018
Friday 9:23 pm
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YouTube star LadBaby has pulled off a festive upset by winning the race to this year's Christmas number one spot.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-46647954
>> No. 423081 Anonymous
21st December 2018
Friday 9:26 pm
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>>423080

Humbug.
>> No. 423082 Anonymous
21st December 2018
Friday 9:37 pm
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>>423081
Sausage rolls.
>> No. 423083 Anonymous
21st December 2018
Friday 9:37 pm
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Christmas is saved!


>> No. 423084 Anonymous
21st December 2018
Friday 9:57 pm
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>>423083
Normies out! REEEEEEEEE
>> No. 423085 Anonymous
21st December 2018
Friday 11:00 pm
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>>423083
This is awful even by Channel 4 standards. Have a word with yourself.
>> No. 423086 Anonymous
21st December 2018
Friday 11:24 pm
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Which one of you put the classified in Private Eye asking for donations or contributions due to "feeling depressed because of Christmas", and did the work?
>> No. 423087 Anonymous
22nd December 2018
Saturday 12:06 am
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>>423083
I'm a middle-aged white guy and find Big Narstie fucking hilarious.
>> No. 423088 Anonymous
22nd December 2018
Saturday 1:39 am
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https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-46654797

Give it a rest with the drones already, dronelad.
>> No. 423089 Anonymous
22nd December 2018
Saturday 1:55 am
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>>423088
Sky are reporting they've made a couple of arrests.
>> No. 423090 Anonymous
22nd December 2018
Saturday 3:03 am
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>>423086
For years there was an ad in the back that said 'Send me £20 and I'll tell you how many people did the same', or words to that effect.

I guess he either didn't make a profit or retired to the Bahamas.
>> No. 423091 Anonymous
22nd December 2018
Saturday 8:26 am
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I've been looking at a few 'best albums of 2018' lists. I haven't heard of most of the artists and I haven't listened to most of the ones I am aware of. Is this a sign of getting old?
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22nd December 2018
Saturday 9:44 am
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>>423091
I imagine even audiophiles will only listen to a handful of albums released in that year. Only way you're going to recognise most of the artists in some wank list is if you actually work in the industry and don't have a life.

Maybe we should have a thread next week on our own AOTYs?
>> No. 423093 Anonymous
22nd December 2018
Saturday 9:46 am
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>>423091

Probably.

I've been having that same problem for years.

Welcome to middle age. It's all downhill from here
>> No. 423095 Anonymous
22nd December 2018
Saturday 10:01 am
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>Maybe we should have a thread next week on our own AOTYs?

I imagine shortly after Christmas someone will make a New Year thread, which also covers 2018 in review. I don't think I'd have much to add to it as I haven't watched any films, played any games or read any books that came out this year and I haven't listened to a great deal of new music or telly, either.

I wonder if screenshot lad is still with us. Did that actually turn out to be revengelad?
>> No. 423096 Anonymous
22nd December 2018
Saturday 10:29 am
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I just come across music when I come across it. I don't care what year it's from. I prefer the approach of Cosmo Baker and Skratch Bastid in their wonderful 'Songs We Listened To A Lot In [insert year here]' series of mixes, although they skipped last year.

>Music ‘year end’ lists are great. They give listeners and readers a chance to look at the year as a whole and take in what has happened in the past 12 months in this fast moving, content driven art world we live in. We can reflect on our favorites, discuss with others different aspects of different artists in various genres & scenes, and also pick up on titles we may have skipped over or missed completely. In future years, we can look back and remember that era through those titles and artists.

>Music ‘year end’ lists suck. It often seems like an arms race to see who can be the first person to publish a year-end list, or who can be the first to place a crown on so-an-so’s head just so they can be the first to say that their opinion is the popular opinion. People jump to put songs in genres and boxes, and important qualities such as staying power and age are often overlooked or simply not applicable. It can be very one-dimensional. It can be restricting.

>Although using the calendar year is a great tool for cataloging and referencing releases, music moves at it’s own pace, and we have found that songs have a way of finding you when they are supposed to find you. Songs you grow to love are discovered in many ways: through hearing them at a club night, on a DJ mix, in a movie, in a friend’s car, at a restaurant – and those songs aren’t always new songs, or songs that came out the year that you hear them first. But they are songs that are relevant to YOU that year. And in each of our individual music experiences, they play a role in shaping your musical taste.

>And so we bring you our version of a ‘year end’ mix. “Songs We Listened To A Lot In 2012″. A 3-hour compilation of songs that found their way into our sets, onto our ipods and into our ears this year. You may have heard some of them before, but you surely haven’t heard them all. Some are ‘new’, some are ‘old’. All in all, these songs meant something to us this year, so we hope that this mix will both bring you some of your favorites as well as make some new ones. Enjoy!
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22nd December 2018
Saturday 10:35 am
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>>423096
>It often seems like an arms race to see who can be the first person to publish a year-end list, or who can be the first to place a crown on so-an-so’s head just so they can be the first to say that their opinion is the popular opinion.

I think the Graun were the first to have their lists out and they were completely predictable: Killing Eve as the best TV series of the year with Christine and the Queens as their album of the year.

By most accounts I've seen, their new music editor is an absolute hack.
>> No. 423098 Anonymous
22nd December 2018
Saturday 10:36 am
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>>423096
All those fucking words just to say they made a list of the songs they enjoyed this year. Why are people so insecure about content these days?
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22nd December 2018
Saturday 10:40 am
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>>423098

It's not a list. It's a three-hour mix.

http://cosmobaker.com/2013/01/skratch-bastid-cosmo-baker-songs-we-listened-to-a-lot-in-2012/
>> No. 423100 Anonymous
22nd December 2018
Saturday 10:56 am
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>>423097
I don't listen to much music as it comes out, but Killing Eve was easily the best TV show of the year. I didn't even realise it was written by the same woman who did Fleabag until one of those end-of-year lists either.
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22nd December 2018
Saturday 11:12 am
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>>423100
It was good, but it wasn't that good. It felt at times the plot and making sense had been sacrificed in the name of entertainment.

Nothing is going to top Hugh Grant in A Very English Scandal; he's certainly having a renaissance by playing villains and bastards.
>> No. 423102 Anonymous
22nd December 2018
Saturday 11:15 am
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>>423101
Well, I can't claim to have seen that, but given all the bland, grey, slog-fests the BBC produces "sacrificing plot for entertainment" is fine, to a point, as far as I'm concerned.
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22nd December 2018
Saturday 11:16 am
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>>423098
>so insecure about content

Nobody just writes a post anymore, we're all content creators now.

The only TV thing I liked this year (if I owned one, obvs I do not), was McMafia. Looking at the Russian guy at work in a completely different way now.
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22nd December 2018
Saturday 11:23 am
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>>423102
>given all the bland, grey, slog-fests the BBC produces

Their Christmas fodder looks absolutely dire. I think the main showpieces are a poorly animated Watership Down and John Malkovich playing Poirot sans the moustache and accent.
>> No. 423105 Anonymous
22nd December 2018
Saturday 11:49 am
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>>423103

A three-hour mix isn't content?
>> No. 423106 Anonymous
22nd December 2018
Saturday 12:01 pm
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>>423105
i'd call it music personally
>> No. 423107 Anonymous
22nd December 2018
Saturday 12:03 pm
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>>423105
It's alright, Cosmo. You don't have to get so precious about your little playlist.
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22nd December 2018
Saturday 12:21 pm
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Those DJs have been on my radar for years now. Cosmo Baker probably went most viral for the History of Hip Hop series of mixes when he was still with The Rub. Maybe if you haven't heard of them you can't distinguish this from people spamming their own music no one cares about though.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGgyNf35Aaw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAUGnRXmEmM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwxsojBgB1w
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22nd December 2018
Saturday 1:51 pm
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>>423108
>Maybe if you haven't heard of them you can't distinguish this from people spamming their own music no one cares about though.

Is this difference that they're the only ones insecure enough to spend 20 minutes justifying the mix?
>> No. 423110 Anonymous
22nd December 2018
Saturday 2:02 pm
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>>423109

I returned here after 20 minutes and replied to a post is equal to spending 20 minutes constructing a post? Did I spend 11 minutes writing this one?
>> No. 423111 Anonymous
22nd December 2018
Saturday 2:08 pm
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>>423110

And what am I doing in Manchester?
>> No. 423112 Anonymous
22nd December 2018
Saturday 2:09 pm
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I think I am feeling a cold coming on.

Perfect timing.
>> No. 423113 Anonymous
22nd December 2018
Saturday 2:16 pm
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>>423111

I've put this together. Cosmo Baker enjoys pushing people into canals.
>> No. 423114 Anonymous
22nd December 2018
Saturday 2:21 pm
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>>423113
I bet he's killed a few crabs in his time, too.
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22nd December 2018
Saturday 2:23 pm
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I don't think you get it lad. He's talking about the original lengthy and wanky description of the mix.

To be fair, I understand why DJs feel the need to pretend that their work is complex, meaningful, and skilled. I'd feel like a fraud if I was them, too.
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22nd December 2018
Saturday 2:32 pm
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>>423115

Oh. I didn't think it was wanky. I liked it. Do you think the History of Hip Hop one is wanky too?

>This time capsule approach to each year uncovers a slew of already forgotten gems. Ayres says it best: ” I think that hip-hop has this canon of “old-school” jams that get played at parties and make it onto “greatest of all time” lists, but over time the canon shrinks, and you’re left with a bunch of songs that represent current tastes rather than what was good at the time. As a DJ this can be frustrating, because we don’t want to be limited to Biggie, Tupac, Tribe, etc. We love those artists and but also feel there are lots of other great forgotten artists who were maybe less influential but still have records that will rock at a party. So I hope the series can do something to push back against that narrow-mindedness, or forgetfulness, or whatever you want to call it, that shrinking awareness that happens over time. It would be a shame if in 20 years the Throwback at Noon show was comprised of only Eminem, Drake and Lil Wayne…”
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22nd December 2018
Saturday 3:30 pm
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>>423116
>It would be a shame if in 20 years the Throwback at Noon show was comprised of only Eminem, Drake and Lil Wayne…

Exactly. Who can forget Riskay?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruef7aYCEbc
>> No. 423122 Anonymous
22nd December 2018
Saturday 6:45 pm
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I think the one on the left is my dream girl, lads.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6522455/Black-Eye-Friday-erupts-Britain-drunken-antics-hand.html
>> No. 423123 Anonymous
22nd December 2018
Saturday 9:01 pm
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Ho, ho, ho!

Paddy Ashdown's dead.
>> No. 423125 Anonymous
22nd December 2018
Saturday 9:57 pm
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>>423123
Strange - I spent the whole day thinking about the LibDems and whether or not they would be worth a vote in the next GE.

Paddy seemed like a fine fellow.
>> No. 423129 Anonymous
23rd December 2018
Sunday 1:58 am
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>>423122

>I think the one on the left is my dream girl

The beard definitely makes all the difference.
>> No. 423131 Anonymous
23rd December 2018
Sunday 2:33 am
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Happy Festivus ladm8s!
>> No. 423132 Anonymous
23rd December 2018
Sunday 11:05 am
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Trying to find an originally funny Christmas picture on Google Images to send to all my friends on whatsapp.

Do any of you lads still write actual Christmas cards on paper that you then send people by post? I've gotten a few Christmas cards the last couple of days from people, and it has caught me on the wrong foot a bit because I stopped doing that years ago. Are people doing it again these days?
>> No. 423133 Anonymous
23rd December 2018
Sunday 3:51 pm
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>>423132
I do. Maybe my middle-class is showing but e-cards of any kind strike me as rather tacky.
>> No. 423134 Anonymous
23rd December 2018
Sunday 3:59 pm
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For goodness sake, the book I got for my mum has the price hard printed onto the back of it, what a crock.
>> No. 423135 Anonymous
23rd December 2018
Sunday 4:22 pm
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>>423134
Doesn't every book have the price on it?
>> No. 423136 Anonymous
23rd December 2018
Sunday 4:28 pm
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>>423135

Yes. I remember reading Famous Five books in the 80s, which were from the 50s, and they had prices like 7p printed on them.
>> No. 423137 Anonymous
23rd December 2018
Sunday 4:29 pm
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>>423135

It's not necessarily the price you pay for it though. Some hardbacks say £18.99 or something. Get real.
>> No. 423138 Anonymous
23rd December 2018
Sunday 4:31 pm
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>>423136

It's crazy to me there's a bigger gap between the 80s and now.
>> No. 423139 Anonymous
23rd December 2018
Sunday 4:36 pm
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>>423132

I got two Christmas cards which were actually for me, one for my next-door neighbour with the wrong address and one for two people I've never heard of with the wrong address. I don't know what to make of that. I've lived here ten years.
>> No. 423140 Anonymous
23rd December 2018
Sunday 4:37 pm
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>>423137
What's the actual issue, then? Those prices are usually inflated so, if anything, it'll make your dear old ma think you've spent more on her than you have.
>> No. 423141 Anonymous
23rd December 2018
Sunday 4:45 pm
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>>423140

I'm not the same poster. I was just thinking I wouldn't pay that for a book.
>> No. 423142 Anonymous
23rd December 2018
Sunday 4:47 pm
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>>423141

Unless it was super-rare I mean. I paid £40 for one and £30 for another. I was tempted by this when it was still only around £70 but someone has scanned it now.
>> No. 423143 Anonymous
23rd December 2018
Sunday 4:49 pm
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>>423142

Three watchers too.
>> No. 423144 Anonymous
23rd December 2018
Sunday 4:51 pm
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>>423142

Surely if it was any good it'd be on Kindle
>> No. 423145 Anonymous
23rd December 2018
Sunday 4:56 pm
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>>423144

The author's his ex-fiancee and doesn't want to profit off that I assume. Someone scanned it and dumped it to facebook page by page years ago. I made it into a PDF myself but others have done the same thing.

I'm not sure if I'm allowed to post google drive links.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B87m-LgWTyoBR0QteWhJdnE1Qmc/view
>> No. 423149 Anonymous
23rd December 2018
Sunday 7:03 pm
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I know you can bootleg half of this stuff but this popped up on my Youtube front page


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yg5yPukiMFE

(I'm subscribed to him) and Shaun Attwood is pretty entertaining for true crime stuff.
>> No. 423150 Anonymous
23rd December 2018
Sunday 7:14 pm
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>>423149

It seems like I have to jump through some hoops to convert them to .epub or .mobi or anything actually useful to me though.

https://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=283371
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23rd December 2018
Sunday 7:37 pm
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>>423150

I installed an old Kindle for PC version 1.17 to get the .azw's then installed Apprentice Alf's DRM Removal Tool plugin to Calibre. It seemed to work.
>> No. 423152 Anonymous
23rd December 2018
Sunday 10:12 pm
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Just stumbled across https://saybravethings.wordpress.com which has serious Emily vibes to it. She's "recovering" memories of all sorts of things, including having her brain fluids stolen by her mother and her dad selling her to Tom Hanks as a child sex slave. Not so remarkable except for the fact she has nearly 54,000 twitter followers who by and large seem to believe everything she says.
>> No. 423153 Anonymous
23rd December 2018
Sunday 11:09 pm
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It's worse when you buy a second-hand book and it's got a fucking sticker on it that doesn't peel off properly. Cancer Research, you bloody cunts.
>> No. 423156 Anonymous
24th December 2018
Monday 1:37 am
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>>423153

Isopropanol takes stickers and sticky goo off glossy paper with no damage. If it's matte paper, you'll need a hair dryer.
>> No. 423158 Anonymous
24th December 2018
Monday 9:05 am
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Christmas 'turkey rage' as last-minute shoppers FIGHT over food and parking

Christmas shoppers fought over food and parking spaces as last-minute shopping trips or getaways descended into chaos across the UK.

Britons faced long queues and empty shelves inside crowded stores and shopping centres, with frustrated or shocked customers describing the wild scenes as "turkey rage", "shopping Armageddon" and "the nightmare before Christmas".

One shopper told of watching two women "having a full on kick off over a turkey" at a supermarket during a frenzy that unfolded less than 48 hours before the big day. Those who left it too late struggled to find a trolly or were "trapped" in supermarket car parks for more than an hour,while drivers faced jams and long delays on congested motorways and roads made worse by heavy rain in places.

Twitter user Paul Fitzgerald told of wild scenes in Liverpool as he tried to get some last-minute items. He wrote: "All kickin off in Sainsbury’s Rice Lane. Turkey rage. Nuts. Two old dears having a full on kick off over a turkey. Had to be separated by staff. Serene it ain’t. One of them was about to use her walking stick as a weapon. Just hearing it continued in the car park. Merry Christmas, everyone."

In Hull, frustrated shoppers were fighting for car parking spaces and blasting their horns outside an Asda. Inside, children were crying and shelves were being raided.

Asda shopper Tom Clark told Hull Live: “This is the worst part about Christmas - shopping and traffic. I need a lie down after this, it’s done me in. I wouldn’t wish it on my own enemy, this."


https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/christmas-turkey-rage-last-minute-13771687

An elderly lady told Grimsby Live she witnessed three women in Asda this afternoon fighting over the last turkey on the shelf. Another fight over a turkey allegedly broke out in Sainsbury’s.

https://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/news/grimsby-news/live-christmas-traffic-shopping-parking-2358990
>> No. 423159 Anonymous
24th December 2018
Monday 9:39 am
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>>423139

I've just got another card through the letterbox for next door so that makes a total of three cards through the mail which weren't for me, two which were and one in-person card which was.

This new one's in an "Our sincere apologies" damaged mail bag so I hope someone hasn't nicked a tenner out of it. The bag is self-sealed in a way that's not reusable so at least it won't look like it was me, unless I had a stack of brand new "Our sincere apologies" bags lying around just in case I accidentally got my neighbour's mail.
>> No. 423163 Anonymous
24th December 2018
Monday 9:56 am
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>>423158
What never fails to surprise me is people not realising that being out shopping in these things means they're also part of the wild scenes and huge queues.

Fighting over a turkey is fucking pathetic though, these people are a fucking embarrassment.
>> No. 423164 Anonymous
24th December 2018
Monday 11:33 am
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>>423159

So suppose the sender actually put a tenner in the envelope. How do you prove that, or the fact that it's now missing?

Maybe with £10, they won't make a fuss. They'll probably just give you the money because it will cost them more than ten quid to argue with an angry customer. But what if somebody was really being generous and put £50 or even £100 and more in it?
>> No. 423167 Anonymous
24th December 2018
Monday 12:05 pm
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>>423164

I think they just say don't send cash though the post to cover themselves. Same with glass. Royal Mail insurance just doesn't cover those things as far as I understand.
>> No. 423172 Anonymous
24th December 2018
Monday 1:31 pm
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>>423163
>Fighting over a turkey is fucking pathetic though, these people are a fucking embarrassment.

It's to be expected in the likes of Asda. I can only attribute people fighting over a turkey in a Sainsbury's down to the fact it happened in northern shitholes like Liverpool and Grimsby.
>> No. 423174 Anonymous
24th December 2018
Monday 4:24 pm
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>>423172

>it happened in northern shitholes like Liverpool and Grimsby

You haven't been to the more grim parts of North London.
>> No. 423175 Anonymous
24th December 2018
Monday 4:31 pm
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>>423158
Don't put me in the wicker man for saying this but I wouldn't mind just having a Chinese for Christmas dinner one year. It's an awful big fuck about even when you remember to pack your pigs-in-blankets early.

Just thought I'd get in that /101/ in early.

>>423172
I think you've been sorely misled about the state of Saindbury's this past decade.
>> No. 423176 Anonymous
24th December 2018
Monday 4:37 pm
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>>423175

I don't think many people even like turkey here. Certainly not many manage to cook it without the white meat being dry as fuck. If I wasn't a pompous arsehole chef I'd get one of those frozen, pre stuffed turkey crowns and just whack that in the oven.

A nice bit of roast pork has taken over as the thing I look forward to at Christmas, though. I'm sure that's traditional somewhere.
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24th December 2018
Monday 4:41 pm
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I generally have something like cola ham. I'm not a big lover of poultry.

>>423175
>I think you've been sorely misled about the state of Saindbury's this past decade

The customers are still generally a cut above the riff-raff you get in Tesco and Asda.
>> No. 423178 Anonymous
24th December 2018
Monday 6:18 pm
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BUILD THE WALL AROUND HARROGATE AND MAKE LEEDS PAY FOR IT.
>> No. 423179 Anonymous
24th December 2018
Monday 6:21 pm
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Just give me a big fucking plate of pigs in blankets and I'd be happy. Few spuds wouldn't harm I suppose.
>> No. 423180 Anonymous
24th December 2018
Monday 7:45 pm
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The casual snobbery about supermarkets posted above in this thread is a disgusting display of class privilege in action. Choke on your fancy organic shite, and remember that your day will come.
>> No. 423181 Anonymous
24th December 2018
Monday 8:04 pm
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>>423180
I primarily shop at Lidl, Co-op, Iceland and Farmfoods. The likes of Asda and Tesco are incredibly depressing places to visit because they're always bustling with low-life scratters. Farmfoods may be rough, but they're generally spacious and the people inside are amiable enough; it's certainly not like Asda or Tesco where you get the absolute dregs of humanity crowding around the poor sap whose job it is to reduce the fresh produce, gathered around like wild beasts, aggressively snatching items from his hands the moment the reduced sticker is placed on them. If you're poor you don't have to be scum. Asda is to shopping what Greene King are to the pub trade.
>> No. 423182 Anonymous
24th December 2018
Monday 8:13 pm
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>>423181
I called it feeding time when I had to do reductions. The cretin would kick off if I started a few minutes past 6pm.
>> No. 423183 Anonymous
24th December 2018
Monday 9:33 pm
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24th December 2018
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>> No. 423186 Anonymous
25th December 2018
Tuesday 12:00 am
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Merry fuck you Christmas
>> No. 423187 Anonymous
25th December 2018
Tuesday 12:06 am
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IT'S BRRRTIIITTTFFFAAAA.GS!
>> No. 423188 Anonymous
25th December 2018
Tuesday 12:10 am
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Merry Christmas lads. Time to crack out the port and put on O Holy Night.
>> No. 423189 Anonymous
25th December 2018
Tuesday 12:18 am
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gz8gCEPuoR0

Merry Christmas, .gs.
>> No. 423190 Anonymous
25th December 2018
Tuesday 12:21 am
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Merry Christmas lads. Hope you all have a good one - yeah, even you.
>> No. 423191 Anonymous
25th December 2018
Tuesday 12:35 am
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Merry Christmas, you twats.
>> No. 423192 Anonymous
25th December 2018
Tuesday 1:18 am
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Have a good one lads.
>> No. 423193 Anonymous
25th December 2018
Tuesday 1:25 am
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Seeing in Christmas Day with a few beers, a handful of Seroquel, and Chris Rock's seminal Bring the pain. Have a good one, lads.
>> No. 423194 Anonymous
25th December 2018
Tuesday 2:31 am
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Merry Christmas lads!
>> No. 423195 Anonymous
25th December 2018
Tuesday 7:23 am
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>>422516

Bastarding alarm for work days was still set and now I can't get back to sleep. Feels like being up early as a kid and having to wait until my parents stirred.

Merry Christmas, lads.
>> No. 423196 Anonymous
25th December 2018
Tuesday 7:31 am
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Happy Christmas, ladm8s.
>> No. 423197 Anonymous
25th December 2018
Tuesday 10:49 am
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Happy Christmas everyone. Have a good day, chaps.
>> No. 423198 Anonymous
25th December 2018
Tuesday 11:01 am
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Merry Christmas.
By sheer mental gymnastics of the local government the country I reside currently has two Christmases this year: the Catholic one and the Eastern Orthodox one on 7th of January.
I'm pretty satisfied as both make additional days off for me.
>> No. 423199 Anonymous
25th December 2018
Tuesday 12:28 pm
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Merry Christmas, lads. This year I'm experimenting with spring onion gravy and roasting carrots in Southern Comfort.
>> No. 423200 Anonymous
25th December 2018
Tuesday 12:37 pm
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Happy Crimbo m8geezers
>> No. 423201 Anonymous
25th December 2018
Tuesday 1:02 pm
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Time to go on the lash boys.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwlP9F1FEDM
>> No. 423202 Anonymous
25th December 2018
Tuesday 1:54 pm
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBCSj54kRts

He's an absolute madman.
>> No. 423203 Anonymous
25th December 2018
Tuesday 2:24 pm
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>>423201

Never could work out if part of the joke was this isn't even dubstep, or if they're just thick.
>> No. 423204 Anonymous
25th December 2018
Tuesday 4:11 pm
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So there's what, 17 of us? Why is it so much slower when there were 3?
>> No. 423205 Anonymous
25th December 2018
Tuesday 4:15 pm
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>>423204
Are you complaining that the board is slow on Christmas Day?
>> No. 423206 Anonymous
25th December 2018
Tuesday 5:39 pm
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>>423205
What? No.
>> No. 423207 Anonymous
25th December 2018
Tuesday 5:40 pm
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>>423205

He's complaining that the board is slow in general, and wondering why now that a good twenty people have said merry Christmas today.

The answer to him is that some people lurk more than others.
>> No. 423208 Anonymous
25th December 2018
Tuesday 7:43 pm
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>>423199

How did the southern comfort veg go? That sounds either awful or fantastic.
>> No. 423209 Anonymous
25th December 2018
Tuesday 8:31 pm
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>>423207
In my case it's because I forget about .gs all year until winter comes around and I start to think about are Andrew
>> No. 423210 Anonymous
25th December 2018
Tuesday 9:43 pm
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>>423208
They just tasted of carrots, more so than the batch of roasted carrots without Southern Comfort. I used a decent amount and they were in there for quite a while so I'm not sure why there wasn't a decent glaze or flavour absorption; perhaps I should have added brown sugar to the mix.
>> No. 423211 Anonymous
25th December 2018
Tuesday 10:20 pm
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>>423210

Besides the alcohol, there's not really much sugar in a spirit, so I definitely would expect to have seen sugar added. I suspect most of the liquid with any flavour evaporated pretty quickly.
>> No. 423212 Anonymous
25th December 2018
Tuesday 11:10 pm
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What presents did you get then, lads?
>> No. 423213 Anonymous
25th December 2018
Tuesday 11:28 pm
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>>423212
Being another day closer to the sweet release of death. And some socks.
>> No. 423214 Anonymous
25th December 2018
Tuesday 11:39 pm
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>>423212

Socks, underwear, a bottle of scotch, a knife, two grams of coke, a very nice cashmere jumper, and some furikake seasoning.

I keep mixed company.
>> No. 423215 Anonymous
26th December 2018
Wednesday 12:09 pm
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>>423212
Just some chocolate. Oh well, I'll just treat myself in the sales.
>> No. 423216 Anonymous
26th December 2018
Wednesday 1:41 pm
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>>423212

One of the things I got was a hoodie. 100 percent polyester. Made in Vietnam, curiously... a bit random even for Lidl.
>> No. 423217 Anonymous
26th December 2018
Wednesday 3:06 pm
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Nowt like the visiting of my distant family at Christmas to remind me just how racist much of the white working class remains.
>> No. 423218 Anonymous
26th December 2018
Wednesday 4:48 pm
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>>423215
>I'll just treat myself in the sales.

I don't get why thousands of people have been queuing overnight, for up to six hours, to be the first for the in-store Next sales.
>> No. 423219 Anonymous
26th December 2018
Wednesday 5:27 pm
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>>423218
Family will do anyone's head in after a while.
>> No. 423220 Anonymous
26th December 2018
Wednesday 5:39 pm
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>>423219
Yes, but Anon's relatives are both working class and white. I'll bet their telly is so big it has its own postcode.
>> No. 423221 Anonymous
26th December 2018
Wednesday 9:10 pm
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>>423220

>I'll bet their telly is so big it has its own postcode

You're saying poor people shouldn't have nice things? Again?
>> No. 423244 Anonymous
29th December 2018
Saturday 9:15 pm
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1. Miniature Heroes
2. Quality Street
3. Roses
4. Celebrations
>> No. 423250 Anonymous
30th December 2018
Sunday 10:58 am
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>>423207

I read that this board was designed to be difficult to post on with a mobile device and mostly just lurk since then.
>> No. 423256 Anonymous
30th December 2018
Sunday 1:14 pm
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>>423250
If you have a play around with the settings, possibly changing it to Luddite mode, then you might have more luck.

http://britfa.gs/o/

I don't think the site was designed to be difficult to post on mobile phones, I just don't think it's actually been updated since smart phones actually became widespread.
>> No. 423259 Anonymous
30th December 2018
Sunday 1:52 pm
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>>423244
Have a think about this. You rated cadbury chocolate as both number 1 and 3 only you've traded in most of the creams and with it a fair bit of the variety.

>>423250
>>423256
In fairness it makes for a nice bit of quality control.
>> No. 423261 Anonymous
30th December 2018
Sunday 1:53 pm
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>>423259

People who like orange creams are worse than Jimmy saville.
>> No. 423263 Anonymous
30th December 2018
Sunday 3:20 pm
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>>423259
Roses have become very samey. Quality Street are far superior, especially in the creme department. Miniature Heroes are the best selection box. Celebrations are fairly dire so bottom of the list.

Scientific fact.
>> No. 423265 Anonymous
30th December 2018
Sunday 4:07 pm
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>>423263
This. The only reason I give out Quality Street rather than Heroes for Christmas is that packs of Quality Street are easier to wrap.
>> No. 423270 Anonymous
30th December 2018
Sunday 8:33 pm
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Alright, /mph/? My car has started sporadically over-revving and slightly lurching when I either go up a gear or put my foot down. I don't know if there's an issue with the car itself or just the electronics; it now sometimes tells me to go up into sixth when I'm already in it, so it's not properly recognising which gear I'm in for whatever reason. Any ideas?
>> No. 423273 Anonymous
30th December 2018
Sunday 11:59 pm
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Just getting some practice in for tomorrow.
>> No. 423274 Anonymous
31st December 2018
Monday 1:35 am
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>>423270
U fucking wot m8?
>> No. 423275 Anonymous
31st December 2018
Monday 9:41 am
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>>423274

He might have school or work to travel to.
>> No. 423276 Anonymous
31st December 2018
Monday 3:59 pm
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Last day of the Christmas period, lads!!
>> No. 423277 Anonymous
31st December 2018
Monday 5:19 pm
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>>423276
As though that's something good.
>> No. 423278 Anonymous
31st December 2018
Monday 5:26 pm
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>>423277
It is though.
>> No. 423279 Anonymous
31st December 2018
Monday 5:53 pm
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>>423276
New Years day is a bank holiday m8. I should know because I seem to be the only fucker whose been at work the past couple weeks.
>> No. 423280 Anonymous
31st December 2018
Monday 6:37 pm
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>>423279
Plan ahead with your annual leave. I haven't been at work since the 20th and I'm not back at work until Wednesday and it's only cost me three day's holiday.
>> No. 423281 Anonymous
31st December 2018
Monday 7:15 pm
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>>423280
>Plan ahead with your annual leave.

But I am. While everyone else took leave over Christmas I've been doing nothing all day at work and come the annual heatwave I'll use my saved leave to take the month off with some change for messy long-weekends while the weathers good.
>> No. 423298 Anonymous
1st January 2019
Tuesday 1:53 pm
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>>423281
Well, that's another way to do it, aye.

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