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|>>|| No. 423282
Happy New Year lads. You got anything going on? Any resolutions you want to share?
This year I'm doing my annual tradition of foregoing the parties to stay in being a complete manchild. Made dinner with the Aquabats blaring and later on I'm going to watch some anime. All while getting pissed and seeing if the phone I ordered is actually going to be delivered today like the UPS website suggests.
My resolution this year is to budget responsibly which I've already been making cracking progress on these past couple of months. I've set up a little tally with budgeted amounts a little in excess so each category builds a nest egg for months I overspend. Things are looking good so long as I keep it up.
|>>|| No. 423333
Whose definition of 'honest' includes lying to your employer about who you are to enable you to work in a country illegally?
|>>|| No. 423334
>All while getting pissed and seeing if the phone I ordered is actually going to be delivered today like the UPS website suggests.
It's still sitting at the fucking depot and I ordered it on the 27th. This would never have happened if we had more Polish bicycles like the good ol' days.
Don't be a fanny all your life. I want you to find out from uber what's going on so this can get some closure.
|>>|| No. 423342
1) A worker is distinct from an employee and enjoys less rights than an employee
2) They are yet to be treated as workers precisely because it's under appeal
|>>|| No. 423343
Uber has a remarkable model for spreading its business around the globe.
Most companies, before they decide to enter a foreign market, will spend a lot of money and resources on market research to familiarise themselves with the new target country's legal frameworks as well as other market determinants. Entire branches of marketing/management science then deal with the question of what is the best way to enter that market and establish your company and your brand in it. Specifically, among other things, to ensure that your product is legally airtight in the new target market, or that adverse legal repercussions, if they present themselves, will be minimal.
Well, what Uber has been doing differently around the world is that due to the novelty still of the whole idea of getting a random person to give you a lift at the touch of a smartphone app, most countries have few legal frameworks to govern that exact kind of business model. So Uber tends to operate under the assumption that if it isn't positively illegal, it's perfectly legal. And courts and lawmakers are just now growing wise to Uber's business strategies and are now pretty much attempting to work out the legal implications after the fact.
So Uber's approach is pretty much to hope they'll get away with most of their tactics due to the novelty of the whole business model, and attempt to persuade courts and lawmakers to look the other way in a particular country.
Not always successfully. Germany, for example, has outright banned Uber because unlike most other European countries including the UK, it has very strict rules (which long preceded Uber's arrival in Germany) on who can, and who can't chauffeur another person around in exchange for money. Pretty much the only kind of people who are allowed to do so are certified cab drivers who have passed a written exam and who have a valid taxi driver's licence. And courts have already upheld those laws against Uber's attempts to win the German market. So that effectively, Uber itself is almost entirely illegal in Germany at the moment, and it has suspended most of its operations there for the time being.
|>>|| No. 423344
Last year I started lifting weights which went very well. I'm going to keep that going and get my squat to at least 100kg this year.
With money and like OP, I have been budgeting very well in the last six months. The plan is to keep a healthy emergency fund and add to a S&S ISA when able. For work, I'm currently in a field that I'm not really interested in. While it's good, steady income (which is what I need at the moment) it's a bit of a nightmare making it through a full day- ideally I'll find something better by summer. Alternatively, might see if I can setup some sort of copywriting/editing service on the side.
For housing, I'm looking for a new room that's a bit closer to work, the gym, and the supermarket. Currently losing a lot of time due to endless bus rides (and it's probably making work feel more a chore than it actually is)
And lastly, I'll keep up my writing and painting, as well as actually making an effort to get out and about more. My social circle is quite small at the moment and I find it a bit hard.
|>>|| No. 423348
They're not going to tell me anything just because I reported it. I'll just get an automated "Thanks for getting in touch" and that's it.
Looking at https://www.uber.com/en-GB/drive/delivery/ they probably just don't have a driver's license or the right insurance. Maybe there's something to the whole human trafficking theory but more easily they might just be paying random 18+ girls who have British ID to sign up for them.
|>>|| No. 423352
>For housing, I'm looking for a new room that's a bit closer to work, the gym, and the supermarket. Currently losing a lot of time due to endless bus rides (and it's probably making work feel more a chore than it actually is)
Where bouts? It sounds like the recipe for an endless cunt-off but I'm paying way too much in rent for my place. Failing that, having done a bullshit job with a long commute in the past I found reading helps and can make you genuinely look forward to the journey.
Call it a stupid question but I assume by drivers licence they actually mean a Scooter/Motorbike license on this?
|>>|| No. 423353
I want to learn to 3D Model this year, but I think I was telling myself the same this time last year.
Perhaps Blender 2.8's new user interface will make it less of a pipe-dream.
|>>|| No. 423354
>Call it a stupid question but I assume by drivers licence they actually mean a Scooter/Motorbike license on this?
That's very likely what they mean, yeah.
As an aside I looked into this sort of thing (self-employed delivery drivers) for another business and from what I can tell the 'delivery insurance' can really cut your pay right down to nothing, particularly if your car isn't the most fuel efficient. I'm not sure how so many lads seem to make a living on it, I have to assume they're not properly insured and are running their cars on red diesel or summat.
|>>|| No. 423355
I think I'm going to try and not buy any drugs this year. I'm getting a bit too old for that sort of thing.
|>>|| No. 423359
That still doesn't make much sense as you'd still have to pay for the polish bird's insurance, and even if you fake your documents for uber the police can still do you for not being properly insured (though I suspect they rarely do, if you were already running around as an illegal you'd probably not want the risk)
|>>|| No. 423360
I know it's not much to some of you lads but I'm 30 this year. I don't feel like I'm falling apart yet, other than having to shave my bonce because of the creeping bald patch.
I was fat for a fair bit of my twenties, so I feel like physically I'm doing the reverse of most of my mates. They were all buff as fuck for the last decade and are rapidly giving up and letting the beer belly settle in, I'm ramping the fitness up to make up for the fat cunt years. My missus's knees and back make all sorts of creaks and clicks that I don't seem to have adopted yet, much to her disappointment.
Nonetheless, a comedown still feels like I'm literally, actually dying now, when it used to just feel like a vague representation of dying.
|>>|| No. 423366
One of the personal trainers at my gym told me once that from about age 25, there is a growing divide between people on the one hand who keep fit and keep doing regular exercise and sport, and those that don't, and just begin to fall more and more into the usual adult routine of long-hour desk jobs and late-night takeaways.
I'm in my 40s, so at my age you really see the effects of either 15 and more years of doing nothing anymore or indeed staying fit. One of my old friends was a triathlete in his younger years and took up cycling in his 20s, even competed in bicycle racing for a while, and now still does around 30 miles a week through parks and wilderness on his cross country bike around where he lives. He continues to be very health conscious, and as a result, if you disregard his thin greying hair and the odd slight wrinkle, he is lean and ripped and has the body of a 30-year-old.
Whereas the lad at the local service station here, who is in his early 30s at the most, is becoming more massive with every year that passes. He's worked there off and on a good eight to ten years as far as I am aware, and as a younglad back then he was really of relatively normal size and build. But now, he looks 20 stone and gets out of breath even walking over to the bistro area and making me a coffee. And I've spotted him on various occasions smoking fags on his break behind the building. He looks like a perfect picture of the kind of person who won't live to age 50 if he goes on like that.
So it's a very good idea to stay fit, and even if at age 30 you are just now starting to live healthy (again), then that means you'll still have plenty of good years ahead of you.
|>>|| No. 423397
I'm nearing 30 as well and the creeping feeling for me is that I'm becoming too old for anything.
Besides, a few events from two years ago had thrown me into the deep lake of apathy and it's been a pain since. About the only thing I do regularly is exercising.
It's slightly ironic because I hated PT at school.
|>>|| No. 423453
>I'm nearing 30 as well and the creeping feeling for me is that I'm becoming too old for anything.
30 is the new 18, don't you know.
Especially if you're in good physical shape, as you appear to be, then there's loads you can still do with your life at 30, or not even quite 30, as you say you're only now nearing age 30.
Get out of your funk and do something with your life now. Because there will be a time when such considerations really will be a tad bit late.
|>>|| No. 423461
One thing I do like about the muscle Mary bodybuilding crowd is that building appreciable size takes so long that you have to see it all as a long-term change. Probably the best decision I made in my life from a health standpoint was tagging along with my older brothers, first to our shabby home gym then into the weightlifting room.
|>>|| No. 423499
I hear you but I just feel strange, like I'm still 20-22 but the implied number in the passport suggests otherwise.
It's about time when death becomes something tangible, not too far from now. It sounds like it should motivate one into doing but it turned out it can demotivate just as well.
My grand-dad would have rightly told me to get off his lawn for this rant though. But he was a different kind of man, also lots more measures of a man than I am.
|>>|| No. 423524
>I hear you but I just feel strange, like I'm still 20-22 but the implied number in the passport suggests otherwise.
I'm 44. That's right, I am forty fucking four. How do you think I feel? Personally I'd say not a day older than 30, but then it hits me again that 30 was 14 years ago for me. If you knew me personally you'd probably say I don't look, or act 44, and not in an infantile but a jovial way, and that I am pretty good with young people. But it's no use, I am as old as I am, and so I alternate between looking at myself in the mirror in the morning saying to myself, "How the fuck did you allow yourself to get this old?", and manning up and accepting it and telling myself that age isn't a stigma, but that I have earned every single candle on my imaginary birthday cake. But that at the same time, nobody has a right to tell me how I should behave at 44.
>My grand-dad would have rightly told me to get off his lawn for this rant though.
Your granddad was likely the generation that had to seek shelter from V2 rockets as a child. There's no telling somebody like that that you are going through some sort of identity crisis because you're essentially Edward Norton in Fight Club.
|>>|| No. 423527
>>423524 I'm forty-fucking-seven. Fuckety-fuck. Feel fine, in better nick than I have been since 25, but I've just had the sobering thought that the new job I'm about to take is probably my last. That's just weird.
|>>|| No. 423541
> How do you think I feel?
You tell me ladm8.
> then it hits me again that 30 was 14 years ago for me.
I feel exactly this way when I want to say that 2006 wasn't that long time ago and then I realise that it was 13 bloody years ago.
That thing about regretting things you didn't do over thing you did has also become noticeable. Thankfully I was informed about it at a rather tender age and managed to dodge a few bullets there but still.
> Your granddad was likely the generation that had to seek shelter from V2 rockets as a child.
True. But again, being more measure of a man prolly applies notwithstanding the war horrors.
|>>|| No. 423543
I'd say something about how you were allowed to be a man back then, but it will only cause a shitstorm. How do we as modern gentlemen reconcile our apparently redundant place in the world with actually having some self esteem, rather than drinking heavily and playing games about the conflicts our grandfathers fought in, telling ourselves "that's just how society is now, it's not your fault", then buying a motorbike and spending more time working on it in the shed than riding it...
I'm younger than you chaps but I think I've been made to feel older than I really am (I'm a literal millennial, and peers of my age group have said something similar) because of the stark contrast between generations. I still remember the time before everything was internet and social media, most ofmy formative years were spent there. But I'm expected to be young enough to know how to keep up with snapchat and instagram and all that nonsense. I never even liked facebook. What was wrong with phoning up your mates and asking if they fancied a drink.
I've no idea what I'm on about anyway. I've already done some things this year that vaguely count as productive. It's not too late to get some little weights and start doing a bit of exercise is it? I've been a skinny bastard all my life but I'm starting to get a beer belly and it's actually bothering me quite a bit.
|>>|| No. 423544
Be a gentleman, not a man. Be the kind of dad/brother/uncle/neighbour/friend/mentor that you wish you had. Pop in on your elderly neighbours to see if they need any little jobs doing. Volunteer at a community group. Join a sports club. Go to church. Organise an outing. Take evening classes and learn a trade. Phone up your mates and ask them if they fancy a drink. Phone up your nan for a chat. Start a five-a-side team.
A lot of the "men aren't allowed to be men" mob want all of the power with none of the responsibility. They want women to fawn over them, but they don't want to put in the effort to be a good provider. They want to be respected by their community, but they don't want to do anything to earn that respect. They want the kudos of being a practical man, but they aren't willing to get off their arse and learn how to do things.
It's easier to grow a beard and wear a checked shirt than to learn carpentry. It's easier to guzzle creatine and whey and spend hours in an air-conditioned gym than it is to get calloused hands from hard work. It's easier to moan about the throwaway society than to learn how to mend your own appliances. The modern affectations of masculinity feel hollow because they are hollow. The satisfaction of being useful has to be earned.
|>>|| No. 423549
>"men aren't allowed to be men"
The fuck does this even mean though? It's just antiquated rubbish. There is no rulebook on 'how to be a man' in the 21st Century. There is a rulebook on how to be a decent and interesting human being, which I think you've kind of outlined, and it applies to all genders equally.
|>>|| No. 423550
You've sort of illustrated the point though. Playing devil's advocate here, I don't really buy into the idea that you should "be" anything, but the argument is that most of those typical masculine ideals are, in modern world, looked down on as negative traits. Being a provider is patronising and controlling, playing sports is condescendingly old-fashioned macho, being confident and assertive is mansplaining etc.
Personally I don't buy into it but I think there's something to be said for the malaise a lot of young lads feel. Nowadays nobody teaches them the gist of >>423544 because we're all about empowering young women, we've forgotten about the lads and assumed they know how to do things automatically; that's why all those cancerous alt-right and related groups have sprung up on the internet. In the old days it was pretty easy for a man to know how to be decent and respectful person, and by extension Be A Man. Nowadays there are a lot of competing ideals and marketing forces pushing young blokes in a lot of confusing directions.
|>>|| No. 423551
Exactly this. We encourage just about everyone else in society to 'be who they are', to follow the path of whoever they identify themselves as, but it does increasingly feel like if the thing you identify yourself as is a man who likes stereotypically 'manly' things you're seen as either limiting yourself or being a sad, antiquated example of the evils of gender roles.
I've been eyerolled and accused of 'trying too hard' for mentioning that I like straight scotch - I wasn't bragging or anything, this was a discussion about liquor. Having said that, I'm not sure that one individuals comments represent society at large, it just so happens that this sort of person is the most vocal and is given a prominent platform.
|>>|| No. 423552
>Nowadays nobody teaches them the gist of >>423544 because we're all about empowering young women, we've forgotten about the lads and assumed they know how to do things automatically; that's why all those cancerous alt-right and related groups have sprung up
Can you lads start a youtube channel or something because if you can continue to put that same message across while giving useful advice it'd probably solve a lot of contemporary problems.
|>>|| No. 423553
>for mentioning that I like straight scotch
What do you mean by mentioning? If someone asked what you wanted to drink and then berated your choice that's one thing but otherwise....
|>>|| No. 423555
Like I said, it was in a discussion about liquor, and what people liked to drink. Now that I think about it I didn't even say 'scotch', just whisky.
When would it be a bad thing to say, though? Apropos of nothing it would just be odd, and maybe if I introduced myself like "Hi, I'm anon, I like young women and old scotch" or something I'd definitely be a cunt.
|>>|| No. 423556
I don't think that's what we need, plus Jordan Peterson seems to have that particular niche cornered.
What we need is better male role models.
|>>|| No. 423558
Honestly, try it. Making stuff is great for your mental health. Most of us have weird modern jobs where nothing ever really gets done, we just constantly chip away at an endless inbox of slightly pointless tasks. The economy evidently finds it to be profitable, but it's hard to feel genuinely useful when you just sit in meetings and fiddle about on a computer all day.
Spending some part of your free time doing something practical is very grounding. It reminds you that you actually have some modicum of control over the world around you. Any craft-based hobby is good, but I think (particularly for men) there's an advantage to doing something with a functionally useful outcome. There are lots of skills you could choose to learn, it just so happens that woodwork is the easiest to get into. With a surprisingly modest investment of time and money, you can make something that improves your life in some small way. You can make something that will last, something that your grandkids might want to keep when you're gone.
It might seem ludicrously trivial, but stirring your pasta sauce with a wooden spoon that you carved from an apple tree branch from your garden is a powerful feeling. We're surrounded by stuff that just appeared in a box from China as if by magic, but that spoon is real. It exists in the world because of your efforts. You can look out of the window and see the tree that it came from, you remember the smell of the shavings, you've still got a little mark on your thumb from where the knife slipped. You can't buy that.
When you start gaining the skills and confidence to make and fix your own stuff, you feel a bit less adrift in the world, a bit less like a cog in an incomprehensible capitalist machine. You look at things that you use every day and think "I could make one of those". You secretly look forward to things breaking, because then you've got an excuse to get the tools out. You gain the sense that if the apocalypse did come, you might be a useful survivor. In the best possible sense of the word, that's a very manly feeling.
Seconded. I don't know enough about sociology to hazard a guess at the reasons, but there seems to have been a precipitous decline in the quality of dads over the last couple of generations. Half my mates didn't know their dads growing up and most of the rest had obviously crap dads.
|>>|| No. 423560
Your way of putting that really hits home to me. That's exactly what it's like.
I don't know what to think about the father figure thing, though. My dad was fully absent for my formative years, and though I had a good solid grandad, he wasn't particularly a guiding influence and didn't really teach me to Be A Man either. I taught myself Man Things despite, or possibly in spite of, my missing male role models. I got into cars because I liked them, not because I got shown them by any other bloke, I started taking electronic stuff apart to see how it worked because I wanted to know, not because my dad suggested it, and I learned to build stuff out of wood because I needed something built out of wood and realised I could find out how to do that myself. Same with camping, fishing, bushcraft, all the other shite I do.
I think the internet helped a lot with that. I can't imagine someone born much earlier than me ('89) realising they can just find out how to hunt and skin a rabbit on YouTube if they want, but that's the reality of today's youth.
Maybe I'm being naive and I just happen to be more of a self starter than the average young lad, but I'm not so sure I'd give myself that credit.
I know a lot of lads from eastern Europe who do all the things I've listed as a matter of course, just because that's what they do. Perhaps they all had great father figures who taught them too, I don't know, but they see it differently there. For everyone in my office over here that calls me Bear Grylls or Ron Swanson for knowing how to put up a tent or fix a hole in plasterboard, there's a dozen Romanians who tell me they were astonished that these are niche skills over here.
|>>|| No. 423564
Personally I only learned how to make snares and trap small animals, because I live in England and have no particular desire or need to hunt bigger game, but there's absolutely YouTube videos on how to track and hunt, and lots and lots of pre youtube texts, too. It shouldn't be so surprising that you can find out how to do pretty much anything online, there's always some weirdo/hobbyist who wants to share their knowledge.
|>>|| No. 423565
>I can't imagine someone born much earlier than me ('89) realising they can just find out how to hunt and skin a rabbit on YouTube if they want, but that's the reality of today's youth.
They teach that in the Scouts. A lot of it depends on the leaders, but if you live in a rough area then it's more likely they'll teach you things like rifle shooting and skinning rabbits to make themselves appeal to the kids.
|>>|| No. 423610
True. I got taught to gut a rabbit in cubs.
I've never used the skill irl but I always wink at rabbits just so they know that if they try something on me they're getting skinned.
|>>|| No. 423611
Did they teach you how to catch them though? You can hardly expect to skin them if you can't catch them.
|>>|| No. 423612
Not him but they never taught me anything remotely useful in cubs. I got hit by a firework the leader bloke set up wrong and got a cool scar on my arm, though.
Never bothered with scouts but I think they taught how to trap.
It's not hard to catch a rabbit, mind. You can basically shout at one until it dies of shock.
|>>|| No. 423613
It depends entirely on the group; there's a lot of pot luck. My son went to Scouts last night and he did ironing, cooking and washing up. Then again, they have done things like potholing, rock climbing and steering a narrow boat so it's swings and roundabouts.
|>>|| No. 423632
No, original poster here.
One of the leaders turned up with a dead rabbit. Don't know how he got it. The only thing that I actually learned from the shouting movement was how to masturbate and put up a tent.
|>>|| No. 423637
I don't really have problems with reconciling my or whoever else's place in the world. More so if it's war, of which my granddad told never to glorify one unless there's profit to be made.
I just feel inadequate, incompetent and infantile, and probably am.
Possibly lack of self-love and low levels of self-respect and that I was never taught about these things.
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