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>> No. 428949 Anonymous
19th July 2019
Friday 5:19 pm
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New weekend thread: Highland Toffee edition.

How goes it, lads? What are you up to this weekend?
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>> No. 428953 Anonymous
19th July 2019
Friday 5:44 pm
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Trying to work out if I can get a slightly smaller fridge freezer in the back of my older-model A4 saloon. Its back seats fold down, but I'm not sure yet it'll fit. It's about 55x60x130 cm.

I will be moving soon and the place that I am moving into has a complete kitchen with a fridge and oven/stove and all the works, but I still see no reason to sell a perfectly good ten year old Bosch fridge for a song. For the 75 quid or less that I can expect to get for it on eBay or Gumtree, I'd really much rather just hold on to it, and put it in my parents' basement. You'll never know when a fridge like that will come in handy again. And new ones like it sell for over £250.
>> No. 428954 Anonymous
19th July 2019
Friday 5:55 pm
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Beating the crap out of a barn with chainsaw and sledgehammer.
Had the roof down last weekend, so no more clambering around up high. yay. Just hope the electrics are as dead as I think they are.
>> No. 428957 Anonymous
19th July 2019
Friday 6:00 pm
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Might spruce up the CV, partly as a bit of escapism to make me feel better, but partly because it might be getting to that time to move on.
>> No. 428958 Anonymous
19th July 2019
Friday 6:14 pm
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I suppose if a job's worth doing, it's worth doing twice. Some swarf had got caught in between the membranes on my Model M during my last bolt-mod, causing dodgy behaviours.

Seems all good now though. I'm not sure how tight the bolts need to be, though, but I don't want to shatter the 30-year-old plastic.
>> No. 428959 Anonymous
19th July 2019
Friday 7:02 pm
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>>428953

So, no chance of getting the fridge through the bootlid, the boot opening only measures about 35 cm from top to bottom. But if I slide both front seats nearly all the way forward and remove one of the rear door cards, it will just about fit in the back seats, with a few centimetres of room in every dimension. I'll have to think of something to cover up the back seats though so that any sharp edges on the fridge won't hurt the leather.

Triumph of the will.
>> No. 428963 Anonymous
19th July 2019
Friday 9:58 pm
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I just got up to close my curtains and saw a hedgehog scurrying across my neighbour's drive, it was the first one I'd ever seen and I was impressed by how speedy it was. That's not a crack about Sonic, by the way, but the character does make more sense to me now I've seen one for real. I'd always assumed they'd be quite ponderous.

>>428959
You sound just like Anna Soubry.
>> No. 428964 Anonymous
20th July 2019
Saturday 7:38 am
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>>428957
I'm tempted to tweak my CV even though I have no plans to change jobs any time soon; it has been a couple of years since I updated it last and I have the feeling I'd forget points I'd want to add to it if I don't do it soon.

I'm helping my girlfriend job hunt at the minute, she doesn't know what she wants to do so I'm linking her to anything I think she'd find interesting, and some of the barriers to entry seem over the top; there's a job at a local library but you need a degree in 'Information and Library Management' for... a £15k a year job.
>> No. 428965 Anonymous
20th July 2019
Saturday 10:42 am
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Ebay has their £1 final value fee promotion again so I'll be taking photos of a bunch of old shite I want to sell.

It's incredible how much useless tat I've accumulated over the years.
>> No. 428966 Anonymous
20th July 2019
Saturday 11:34 am
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>>428964

>but you need a degree in 'Information and Library Management' for... a £15k a year job

A lot of these pseudo degrees are a joke.

I talked to a lass at a party once who was studying international information management. She tried her best to convince me that hers was going to be a sought after qualification, but I had my doubts. It still sounded to me like she was going to be a glorified desk researcher who would spend most of her time during a workday googling things for her boss and creating Power Point slides.
>> No. 428967 Anonymous
20th July 2019
Saturday 12:46 pm
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>>428966
I can sort of see why you'd need it for a senior position at a large library, although arguably you'd be better doing on the job qualifications through a professional body rather than a master's degree for it, but not for a role at a small local one where you'll be mainly restocking the shelves, sitting at the reception desk or making sure tramps aren't using the computers to go on porn. I don't know, perhaps library jobs are so in demand that even low level jobs require this qualification because there's the expectation that you won't want to stay in the role and will ultimately want to move on to being boss librarian; otherwise nobody would fork out c. £8k for a master's (can you even get student loans for them?) for a £15k job.
>> No. 428969 Anonymous
20th July 2019
Saturday 2:02 pm
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>>428967
Who says you have to fork out £8k? Just add that to the rest of your student debt you'll never repay. Rich kids have their parents stump up for the frivolities of their late teens. The rest of us have Student Finance England do it.
>> No. 428970 Anonymous
20th July 2019
Saturday 2:07 pm
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>>428967
There's a lot more to the job of a librarian than restocking shelves. Then again, they tend to be paid rather more than £15k to do it.

Tell your partner to put in the application anyway and assume they've made a typo somewhere. The worst that can happen is she doesn't get the job.
>> No. 428971 Anonymous
20th July 2019
Saturday 2:35 pm
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>>428969
Did you make it to the part immediately after it in parentheses?
>> No. 428972 Anonymous
20th July 2019
Saturday 2:49 pm
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>>428971
Nope.
>> No. 428973 Anonymous
20th July 2019
Saturday 3:11 pm
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>>428971
Not reading the post one is replying to is a proud .gs tradition, m7.
>> No. 428974 Anonymous
20th July 2019
Saturday 3:15 pm
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>>428967

It's kind of the same with facility management these days. You can do a bachelor's degree in facility management, but I'm not entirely sure you will be much more than a glorified janitor.

And I would imagine that with a degree like that, even if you are entrusted with more highbrow things like managing cost and profitability of commercial property, you are going to compete with somebody who took a few seminars on facility management at uni as part of their business degree.
>> No. 428975 Anonymous
20th July 2019
Saturday 3:30 pm
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>>428974
This business of inventing silly names for things is getting out of hand. At a previous workplace we had a "Compliance Officer" whose job included making sure everyone's security badges were in order and ensuring the disabled toilets were suitably accessible, and at another the janitorial team were referred to as "Places Operatives".
>> No. 428976 Anonymous
20th July 2019
Saturday 3:50 pm
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>>428975

My local housing association recently promoted all of their gardeners to "Green Space Operatives".
>> No. 428977 Anonymous
20th July 2019
Saturday 3:58 pm
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>>428967

If there are more Information and Library Management graduates than job openings for librarians (highly likely), then why would you bother hiring a non-graduate?

Graduate underemployment is now a massive socioeconomic problem. We hugely increased the number of graduates and just assumed that the number of graduate jobs would increase commensurately, but instead we've created a horrible negative-sum trap. The huge pool of graduates encourages employers to make a degree a requirement even if it isn't strictly necessary. With more employers requiring a degree, you need a masters to stand out from the pack. Young people are spending longer in education and spending more in the process, but they aren't gaining anything as a result. The glut of highly-educated people gives universities the ability to teach courses using mainly underpaid graduate students, with the lion's share of the increased tuition fee revenue going to senior administrative staff.

Just like the housing market, the whole system is set up as a massive wealth transfer from younger to older people.
>> No. 428978 Anonymous
20th July 2019
Saturday 4:00 pm
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>>428976

>"Green Space Operatives"

That sounds more like a CIA term for their jungle combat trained personnel.


>>428975

O2 had an advert in the paper a while ago where they were looking for a fraud manager. Whose job it was going to be to detect dodgy behaviour of customers and act upon it. Sounded a bit novel, but I guess at a major company like O2, it makes sense to have one person, or an separate department, going after you for nicking somebody's password credentials.
>> No. 428979 Anonymous
20th July 2019
Saturday 4:06 pm
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>>428974
THE WORD IS CARETAKER. Isn't there a McDonalds you could be dining in?
>> No. 428981 Anonymous
20th July 2019
Saturday 4:10 pm
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>>428977

I think it's truly been tackled from the wrong end, in that we never quite needed more university graduates. For years, decades even, the paradigm was to get more people into higher education, but nobody really ever asked if besides the intrinsic value of having a higher education degree of whatever description, we were really doing young people a favour with it. Not everybody needs a university degree. There are, or at least there used to be career paths where you could earn very decent money after vocational training or an apprenticeship. For example, as a bank clerk, all you needed in the 70s or 80s, even the 90s, was fairly decent GCSEs. You were then entered into an apprenticeship, and in the long run, that alone opened up to you a greater number of low- to mid-level jobs within that bank for which you didn't need any kind of degree at all. Nowadays, you probably need some sort of degree in finance for most bank jobs. Which of course also had to do with many job tasks in bank branches disappearing with the Digital Revolution and online banking, but that's a different story.
>> No. 428982 Anonymous
20th July 2019
Saturday 4:11 pm
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We just need to vote Corbyn who'll nationalise Eton.
>> No. 428983 Anonymous
20th July 2019
Saturday 5:29 pm
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>>428981
I think the worst thing New Labour in terms of the education system was the denigration of vocational qualifications. Compelling people to go to university when they didn't really need to was bad enough, but instilling the mindset that manual labour is dirty and beneath them is unforgivable. There seems to be a lot more sneering and derision of the working class ever since that happened.

>>428982
It's always struck me as counterintuitive by trying to achieve equality by bringing things down to the lowest common denominator rather than trying to lift standards at the bottom.

Eton is obviously an outlier but the success of public schools over state schools largely boils down to class sizes. A class of 15 will always do better than a class of 30 or 35, especially as a lot of lesson time for the latter is disrupted by troublemakers. I doubt it would be economically feasible for state schools to have such small classes, but you could do wonders by just removing the one or two unruly little shits from mainstream education.
>> No. 428984 Anonymous
20th July 2019
Saturday 5:37 pm
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>>428983
>but the success of public schools over state schools largely boils down to class sizes
Yes, obviously it's the class sizes. Clearly the connections are nothing to do with it.
>> No. 428985 Anonymous
20th July 2019
Saturday 5:50 pm
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>>428984
Obviously that's the case at the elite schools, the aforementioned outliers, but the majority of public schools don't fall into this bracket.

Would you say going to, for example, Read School in Drax (fees of up to £8,673 per term) is going to provide you with the connections to open any doors you want?
>> No. 428986 Anonymous
20th July 2019
Saturday 6:11 pm
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>>428983

>I think the worst thing New Labour in terms of the education system was the denigration of vocational qualifications.


That's Labour for you, and not just New Labour. I think the Left has always been disingenuous about its motives, and those who did rise through the ranks in Labour really didn't give a toss anymore about the humble working classes. It's all just a fig leaf. The very reason why many of them chose to go into politics was to escape their own dowdy working-class upbringing. So how is somebody like that honestly going to remember where they came from when it comes to voting on such things like benefit cuts or vocational training initiatives.

I can't say I've much liked the Tories in recent years, but at least with them, there are no illusions where they stand. They come from posh and middle class upbringings, and they will predictably favour the middle and upper classes. At least they don't give the lower classes any false hope about their chances in life.
>> No. 428987 Anonymous
20th July 2019
Saturday 6:17 pm
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@Everyone

Finland has one of the finest education systems in the world and did away with private education ages ago, now fuck off and make a /pol/ thread.
>> No. 428988 Anonymous
20th July 2019
Saturday 6:43 pm
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>>428987
The population of Finland is c. 5.5 million, around one-twelfth of the population of Britain and I doubt they had a deeply entrenched class system.

Average class sizes in Britain are over 30 pupils and growing whereas in Finland they're 18 or 19. If anything, that's suggesting if we want to replicate them the most important thing would be to almost halve the number of pupils in classrooms rather than banning public schools.
>> No. 428989 Anonymous
20th July 2019
Saturday 6:51 pm
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>>428988

>and I doubt they had a deeply entrenched class system

I think they did while they were part of the Russian Empire 1810-1917, which of course had a very distinct class system. At the time, Finland was a grand duchy, and even very briefly a kingdom after it gained independence from Russia.
>> No. 428992 Anonymous
20th July 2019
Saturday 11:27 pm
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>>428989
This is perhaps a conversation for another time but no, feudalism was deeply ingrained in Western Europe in quite a different way to Russian serfdom and Nordic egalitarianism. Finnish society is historically divided between the Finns and Fenno-Swedes that has somewhat morphed into urban divide.

There are memes for this but I don't want someone to @ me.
>> No. 428993 Anonymous
21st July 2019
Sunday 12:02 am
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>>428992

>Nordic egalitarianism

Which is truly fascinating considering that countries like Sweden have one of the most stable, admittedly constitutional monarchies in all of Europe.
>> No. 428994 Anonymous
21st July 2019
Sunday 12:05 am
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>>428987

So sad
>> No. 428996 Anonymous
21st July 2019
Sunday 3:45 am
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I went down the pub for the first time in forever, I felt like a fucking alien. How can you humans get so excited talking about fucking nothing at such a superficial level?

Seriously you'd think that I was the best fucking friend of the guy who asked me my name 5 minutes earlier. I can see the charm but I feel like I would get more long term valuable experience memorizing the text on the back of a crisp packet.
>> No. 428997 Anonymous
21st July 2019
Sunday 7:07 am
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>>428996

I don't fucking know Lad, maybe try a tabletop gaming club.
>> No. 428998 Anonymous
21st July 2019
Sunday 7:54 am
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>>428996
What kind of conversation are you expecting with someone you met for the first time five minutes earlier? Most people generally don't talk the same way to someone they've just met as someone they know well.
>> No. 428999 Anonymous
21st July 2019
Sunday 8:42 am
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>>428996
Imagine going to a drug den and complaining about the standard of conversation.
>> No. 429000 Anonymous
21st July 2019
Sunday 10:02 am
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>>428983
>...instilling the mindset that manual labour is dirty and beneath them is unforgivable. There seems to be a lot more sneering and derision of the working class ever since that happened.

This is about Seppos but seems relevant:-

One of the study’s findings: the wilder a person’s guess as to what the other party is thinking, the more likely they are to also personally disparage members of the opposite party as mean, selfish or bad. Not only do the two parties diverge on a great many issues, they also disagree on what they disagree on.

This much we might guess. But what’s startling is the further finding that higher education does not improve a person’s perceptions – and sometimes even hurts it. In their survey answers, highly-educated Republicans were no more accurate in their ideas about Democratic opinion than poorly educated Republicans. For Democrats, the education effect was even worse: the more educated a Democrat is, according to the study, the less he or she understands the Republican worldview.

“This effect,” the report says, “is so strong that Democrats without a high school diploma are three times more accurate than those with a postgraduate degree.” And the more politically engaged a person is, the greater the distortion.

What could be going on? Bubble-ism, the report suggests. Even more than their Republican counterparts, highly educated Democrats tend to live in exclusively Democratic enclaves. The more they report “almost all my friends hold the same political views”, the worse their guesses on what Republicans think.


https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jul/21/democrats-republicans-political-beliefs-national-survey-poll
>> No. 429001 Anonymous
21st July 2019
Sunday 11:14 am
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>>428983

>Compelling people to go to university when they didn't really need to was bad enough, but instilling the mindset that manual labour is dirty and beneath them is unforgivable.

By the same token, a lot of manual labour is properly shit. The nostalgia so many people on the left have for heavy industry really gets on my tits. I've seen too many people cough themselves to death from black lung, too many people hobbling about on one leg or trying to open a packet of crisps with one hand. I know so many former colliers and steelworkers who were desperate for their sons to do literally anything else, because they didn't want their boy to spend their life in a scene from Dante's Inferno. The likes of Corbyn have no right to make pronouncements about what's best for working class communities in the north, when the closest he's been to a coalface is standing next to Diane Abbott at PMQs.

>>428985

It's a sliding scale. There are big differences in connections and aspirations even between comprehensive schools. If you want to be a doctor, you're at a huge disadvantage if nobody from your school has ever become a doctor, if none of your mates have a parent who is a doctor, if no-one around you thinks that it's a realistic possibility. Little things like knowing which A-levels to take or having someone in-the-know help you with your UCAS form can be the difference between success and failure.

At a mid-tier independent school, you're probably not going to be classmates with the Prime Minister's son, but you probably are going to be classmates with the son of a senior civil servant or a professor or a chief executive. That's no different to a good grammar school or a comprehensive in a very posh catchment area, but that really points to the difficulty in actually delivering equal educational opportunities.
>> No. 429002 Anonymous
21st July 2019
Sunday 11:39 am
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>>428997

Once upon a time those were great now they are just filled with a bunch of cunts who do nothing but play the resistance and cards against humanity non stop. I think their brains would short out if they ever had to place a worker.

>>428998

Well for example you are already engaging in a line of inquiry and analysis, and expecting a level of self reflection from me and you had a single post to go on. So apparently it isnt that hard to engage a stranger in something a bit deeper.
>> No. 429004 Anonymous
21st July 2019
Sunday 11:42 am
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>>429002
Not him but I'm not sure that gs discourse is directly analogous to a pub discussion that happens in a physical place.
>> No. 429007 Anonymous
21st July 2019
Sunday 11:52 am
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>>429004

So you have a lower expectation of behaviour in a public house than a 4chan clone?
>> No. 429008 Anonymous
21st July 2019
Sunday 12:00 pm
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>>429001
A lot of manual labour is shit, but I know plenty of tradesmen who are absolutely raking it in especially as they don't declare all of their income. When we have shortages of electricians and plumbers it seems wrong to discourage people away from this route and into pointless degrees.

You're right about equal educational opportunities. The children of doctors are statistically far more likely to enter into drugs, the children of politicians are far more likely to enter into politics and so on. You've only got to look at the media to see how famous or well connected relatives opened doors for them; Jack Whitehall, Zoe Ball, Fearne Cotton, etc. Even the lad on /emo/ with the massive chip on his shoulder is likely to be able to give any children he has a massive leg up with their own careers.
>> No. 429011 Anonymous
21st July 2019
Sunday 12:07 pm
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>>429007

It's more complex than higher and lower.
>> No. 429013 Anonymous
21st July 2019
Sunday 12:09 pm
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>>429001

The parents of one of my mates worked over 40 years of rotating shifts at Dagenham. They never complained, but it really was hard work, and they said if you do that kind of work for that long, it's bound to have a serious effect on you. Many people develop cardiovascular illnesses like hypertension, on top of chronic problems like sleep disorders, because your body never really quite adapts to the changing shift schedule from one week to the next.

They made sure that both their sons were going to have an easier working life than them, so they tried their best to get them into higher education. But it wasn't easy on their factory worker wages, so both my friend and his brother had to work several jobs during uni to make ends meet.

What I am saying is, there really isn't much pride in those jobs. And most people working them would gladly leave them behind for something better. Nobody really takes pride in being from a long line of factory workers in their family. Even in those circles, it's sometimes seen more as a stigma that consecutive generations never managed to better themselves.


>if none of your mates have a parent who is a doctor, if no-one around you thinks that it's a realistic possibility. Little things like knowing which A-levels to take or having someone in-the-know help you with your UCAS form can be the difference between success and failure.

Education is passed on through socialisation. Children of university-educated parents are still many times more likely to go to university themselves than children from working class families. And that does have to do with all the little things. Your parents will most likely not be able to help you figure out what to even study at uni or how to get there and which university to aim for, so it involves a great deal more of research on your part as a workingclasslad than if your parents went to university themselves.
>> No. 429015 Anonymous
21st July 2019
Sunday 2:57 pm
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>>429011

Everything is more complex than can be measured. but you know I'm right.
>> No. 429016 Anonymous
21st July 2019
Sunday 2:57 pm
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>>429013

I think you highlight one of the real problems here.

Nobody ever puts an emphasis on what's worthwhile to study, and how your career path will be different if you study various different things. Nobody ever tells a 16 year old who's being expected to decide their entire bloody future on one boring Thursday afternoon what's a valuable choice, what's going to be more difficult but maybe more flexible, nobody tells you how it actually works. We expect teenagers who probably can't think about anything but their raging hormones to make massive life changing decisions and we don't give them nearly enough information to do so wisely.

And I'd wager that's because teachers, career advisers, all those kinds of people- None of them actually know themselves. That's why they're teachers, let's face it. They're perfectly good at telling kids they have to make the right choice and telling them how important the decisions are, but piss poor at supplying any actual useful guidance to go with that. This is why middle and upper class kids have such a vast advantage, it makes a shitload of difference if your mum and dad can say "That's probably going to be a difficult career path, son." instead of just "Oooh, he's doing an -ology, they're for dead clever people those."

I never went to uni myself because I was too much of a depressed isolated nervous teenlad to even contemplate it all. But I still feel bad for all the people who went and studied music tech or whatever site just because nobody ever told them it would be a waste of time. The leople who should have been supporting them just filled their head full of "study what you enjoy!" nonsense. And that's why they end up working in a call centre.

It's a load of shit frankly and all of it is just symptomatic of how our country is geared to entrench the class system yet further. Another lad made a good point earlier- A lot of the remaining roots of leftism here is old cunts who are just using it as another way to get more for themselves. There's a lad who's just retired at my work- Big union activist, generally has people's best interests at heart, old fashioned Labour voter. But he's spent the last five years trying his best to block a change that would essentially mean the lowest paid workers get a per hour pay rise, in real terms, all because he doesn't want to work weekends. Now that he's got his fat pension (at the kind of age my generation will never see) could he give a toss? Of course not.

I think Malthusianlad in the other thread had a good idea about culling old people, come to think of it. It's the only way anything will improve for younger generations.
>> No. 429017 Anonymous
21st July 2019
Sunday 3:29 pm
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>>429015
I'm not sure that particular Jedi mind trick tends to hold up around these parts.
>> No. 429018 Anonymous
21st July 2019
Sunday 3:29 pm
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>>429016

On the other hand, when I was at uni, I saw a lot of people from poorer backgrounds studying the classic degrees that normally set you up for a decent chance at a good career and salary, i.e. law, business, or drugs. Because they knew that they were going to have to provide for themselves and had only one shot at getting a degree that would enable them to get a job afterwards. There was going to be no money for a graduate degree to correct your mistake of getting your first degree in some shite liberal arts discipline.

By contrast, I had a few friends studying social and political sciences as well as liberal arts, and really quite a few of them were from households where their parents were teachers, government employees, doctors, company owners, or even politicians. I definitely noticed a tendency that it was quite often kids from the middle and upper crust of society who got shit degrees that gave them very limited chances of a big career and income. If they did go on to have a decent career, it was frequently because their parents knew the right people.

So my theory is that if you are a working class university student, you often have much more of an idea that you want to get a uni degree first and foremost to be financially stable in the future, because money tended to be tight in your family. I think a lot of 18-year-olds from families where money was never really a concern just don't have that kind of focus when they start university. And so you've got kids like that bumbling about with some liberal arts degree who
have never had a full-time job all the way into their late 20s. While working-class uni graduates of the same age are increasingly earning serious money as lawyers or executives.
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21st July 2019
Sunday 3:42 pm
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>>429017

Well it would work in a pub conversation so...
>> No. 429020 Anonymous
21st July 2019
Sunday 3:56 pm
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>>429016
You're being too hard on teachers here. I remember that almost every single one once I got to around 13 had words to say about being realistic in your goals.

There is no need to reach a cynical conclusion that nobody can possibly know you. People have things they enjoy doing and that enjoyment makes then uniquely qualified to do that thing. Similarly I know a fair few people who studied music and theatre production who used those skills in careers that they couldn't possibly have taken up without the proven ability to handle projects, technology and group working. You still need to put a bit of graft in to get a good job but working in a call centre is still the more likely outcome for people who don't take a risk on higher education.

Anyway, this conversation is tedious because we're not recognising the forces at work. Our society lacks an appropriate mechanism of downward mobility which is steadily becoming more acute as slower economic growth is not creating more space at the top. Being born into a wealthy family matters much more than cognitive ability in life outcomes, particularly on the negative end, and I'm sure you can all think of why.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/447575/Downward_mobility_opportunity_hoarding_and_the_glass_floor.pdf

You'll notice that I'm talking of cognitive ability here. The simple fact is that ability and higher education help but you're still fighting an uphill battle in a zero-sum game for jobs and that is a problem that goes beyond pessimistically criticising kids going to school. Policy solutions could be tried in giving everyone around age 25 a lump sum of money to take risks but any state mechanism is competing with sizeable family war-chests (that grow every generation).
>> No. 429023 Anonymous
21st July 2019
Sunday 7:01 pm
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>>429018

I think you're missing the point a little bit.

Those middle class families who encourage studying social and political sciences see its value in places like government, the arts, think tanks, working in politics or journalism.

In working class families they don't really see the route to that as clear, so if it doens't have a direct application seem to see it as a waste of time.

Your last sentence is nonsense too, are working class kids really earning serious money as lawyers or executives? At top law firms over half of their intakes are routinely non-law grads who studied things like history/philosophy etc.

I hate this myth that if you don't study something directly preparing you for a direct job then your degree is basically pointless. Yes I studied history (although at a proper uni mind) and I have a great job now - but one of the things that keeps me going is I have a very rounded skillset, which means that I can segue into new careers slightly easier. If I'd studied engineering and only ever worked in that I'd be stuck pretty much doing that for the most part.
>> No. 429024 Anonymous
21st July 2019
Sunday 7:11 pm
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>>429018
I think you're right. Most people I know who studied Mickey Mouse degrees are those from perhaps not full on middle class but well off enough that they've been somewhat wrapped in cotton wool and sheltered from the real world where they've never had to worry about money.

Apart from the odd drifter who opted for something like film studies, most people I know from low socioeconomic backgrounds went for degrees that would lead to a tangible career.
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21st July 2019
Sunday 7:15 pm
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>>429024

The point is that your degree subject doesn't really matter if a) it was from the right university and b) you've got connections. Posh kids have the luxury of falling arse-backwards into a good job, but poor kids need to do everything right to stand half a chance.
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22nd July 2019
Monday 12:10 am
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>>429025

>Posh kids have the luxury of falling arse-backwards into a good job, but poor kids need to do everything right to stand half a chance.


A liberal arts degree is always a gamble, because you are simply not going to be first in line from the perspective of many employers when they are looking for suitable candidates to fill a position.

With a Mickey Mouse degree, if you end up doing a noteworthy job at all, it tends to be jobs that depend less on formalised knowledge and more on soft skills or people skills. If your degree is in English literature, then you are likely not going to go work as an R&D engineer, because it just requires engineering and mathematical knowledge that you were never taught. And the legal or medical profession is naturally out of reach for you as well.

And while computer programming is often the last hope for many liberal arts graduates, just talk to somebody with a degree in computer science one of these days, and ask them what they think about that. One reason why a lot of computer code for many different applications is complete and utter shite is that you have somebody coding it who may be able to write a few hundred lines of code, for half the pay of a trained computer engineer, but who has no in-depth grasp of what he's doing. Some of them take programming classes after their degree when they realise that it's going to be that or become dolescum, but it's never going to teach you an in-depth understanding. Not all coding work gets farmed out to Bangalore, there are a lot of people at companies in Britain who spend every day writing computer code for anything from smartphone apps to smart refrigerators.

Also, a lot of liberal arts graduates work in advertising and marketing. And while it's true that marketing is a good 80 percent about people skills, which they may or may not posess, my honest opinion is that it's best left to people who studied marketing at uni. I worked in advertising after my economics degree for a while, and while a lot of them showed good ambition, what was missing was structured knowledge about how to advertise or market a product. For the most part, liberal arts graduates in advertising just blag it. Which doesn't mean they can't be successful, but if like me marketing happens to be one of your areas of expertise, it's easy to spot a blagger. And then when you quiz them about the finer points of distribution channel depth and length and USP, you'll see that you can throw a lot of them thoroughly off their game.
>> No. 429033 Anonymous
22nd July 2019
Monday 11:08 am
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>>429026
Someone once tried to hire me for a programming job based solely on the fact I know how to use google to look things up.
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22nd July 2019
Monday 11:17 am
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>>429033

To be fair, that is about 80% of what most programmers do.
>> No. 429184 Anonymous
26th July 2019
Friday 4:41 pm
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>>428964
>I'm helping my girlfriend job hunt at the minute

She's been told she's the reserve for a job with The National Archives, i.e. if the person offered it declines she'll get it and she may also be offered similar roles if they come up without being re-interviewed.

How slim are her chances? I'm not sure how many people turn down jobs, especially for an entry level position where it won't be used as a bartering chip for a pay rise with a current employer, unless they get a better offer.
>> No. 429193 Anonymous
26th July 2019
Friday 8:49 pm
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Haha WHISKY
>> No. 429203 Anonymous
27th July 2019
Saturday 9:43 am
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>> No. 429204 Anonymous
27th July 2019
Saturday 10:10 am
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>>429203
Looks blissful ladm8.
>> No. 429207 Anonymous
27th July 2019
Saturday 11:46 am
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>>429034

You are confusing programmers with coders.
>> No. 429208 Anonymous
27th July 2019
Saturday 11:53 am
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>>429207

You seem to be arguing a distinction that doesnt exist.
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27th July 2019
Saturday 8:02 pm
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>>429208

I would put programmers more towards the software engineer end of the spectrum, whereas a coder is someone who at their worst will just slap together code snippets from all over the Internet. And then complain that the code he copied and pasted won't compile, in violation of the golden rule of programming, to only use/borrow someone else's code if you understand it. It's better to have a limited grasp of a programming language but be able to produce robust results, than to include some fancy library without a hint of a clue what it really does under the hood.

Self sage for pointless rambling.
>> No. 429233 Anonymous
27th July 2019
Saturday 8:36 pm
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Got My AEK II working over USB. Apart from one time when I flashed the wrong firmware and then accidentally shorted Vcc and GND when trying to reflash, surprisingly painless.

It's not quite as nice as my Model M, but that goes without saying.
I've hacked up and spliced an S-video and USB cable so it plugs in natively rather than an ugly cable running out of the side. I just have to make sure I only ever plug it into the left one (as opposed to the right, which is still wired up for ADB), lest I let the magic smoke out.

Compared to the Model M, it's so much quieter and bassier. That is what I want - going to take this into work; if I took the M I think I'd be lynched within an hour.
>> No. 429236 Anonymous
27th July 2019
Saturday 10:48 pm
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It just occurred to me that the lad who played Kevin Arnold's brother on The Wonder Years was also in Back To The Future.
>> No. 429237 Anonymous
28th July 2019
Sunday 10:58 am
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I certainly drank a bit too much last night.
I feel strangely alive right now, not taking into account the slight manifestation of hangover. Probably because the brain lacks free resources to indulge into the usual trash-talk.
It's almost blissful, the absence of the internal monologue.
>> No. 429239 Anonymous
28th July 2019
Sunday 12:58 pm
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Eating cactus jam which I made myself from hand picked prickly pears on my holiday to Large Canary Island last year in October. Fucking delish.

Prickly pears have a very tasty flavour of watermelon and strawberry when they are sun ripened on the cactus, unlike the imported ones we get for £1.00 a piece at Waitrose's. They are non-climacteric fruit, meaning they stop ripening after they are picked, unlike bananas or peaches. So when you get them half ripe in supermarkets in the UK from about late August, that's as good as they will ever get. They are also very delicate when they are fully ripe, and they will deteriorate very quickly within two or three days of picking them. Their skin is very sensitive to pressure and they become unsightly and start dripping liquid if you just throw them into a bag together, and putting them in the fridge almost seems to accelerate the overall degradation process. Which is another reason why you won't get them fully ripe here. I actually bought one or two of them here in the UK for comparison last year, and the taste was very disappointing.

But I picked my prickly pears fully ripe and did them into jam the same day. And as a result, I was able to make seven or eight little 3 oz. weck jars of the stuff which I have been giving to friends and who have all said it's some of the best jam they've ever had.
>> No. 429240 Anonymous
28th July 2019
Sunday 2:46 pm
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>>429239
Lovely, sounds like you jammed the cactus right up there.
>> No. 429241 Anonymous
28th July 2019
Sunday 3:07 pm
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>>429237

Get fired into meditation m8. 20 minutes a day will turn down the volume on your internal monologue.


>> No. 429242 Anonymous
28th July 2019
Sunday 3:15 pm
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>>429241
It surely looks like drinking each day is simpler than that innit?
>> No. 429243 Anonymous
28th July 2019
Sunday 6:09 pm
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>>429239
Couldn't you start an import business for cactus jam? This time next year you could be running your own plantation from the Canary Islands with us two as your brainwashed slaves.
>> No. 429244 Anonymous
28th July 2019
Sunday 6:25 pm
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>>429241
How do I turn up the volume of my internal monologue?
>> No. 429246 Anonymous
28th July 2019
Sunday 6:27 pm
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>>429244
Drugs, angst, stress, etc.
>> No. 429248 Anonymous
28th July 2019
Sunday 8:33 pm
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>>429243

Honestly I would love nothing better than working in the Canaries. I've found my little paradise there, and being a cactus farmer really doesn't sound like a bad career change. It beats being an office slave in Norf London any day.

As long as I don't end up as a club street promoter. They're the bottom of the pile, a lot of them are stranded middle-aged Northern/Western European alcoholic bums who live hand to mouth on the island on a few quid a day and are too skint to even move back home. A lot of them came to the Canaries with big dreams, but end up failing horribly.

I think that's the misconception about working in paradise. People come there in droves every year with just the same ideas and dreams as you. But in a lot of jobs, competition is ten times fiercer than in Britain, work hours are arduous, and economic opportunity is limited.

One expat that I talked to there who left Leeds for Large Canaria and who actually now has a thriving estate agent business told me that if you don't plan your new life there meticulously ahead of time, the islands will chew you up and spit you back out before you know what's happening. But he also told me that even the most gruelling workdays are all made worthwhile by the fact that you can sit back at night and have a cold beer under palm trees, gazing out onto the Atlantic.
>> No. 429249 Anonymous
28th July 2019
Sunday 10:53 pm
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For the first time in my life I used all of my seven tiles in one turn on Scrabble. Shame I don't like the game, though.
>> No. 429251 Anonymous
29th July 2019
Monday 6:21 am
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>>429248

I found the same thing with the whole ESL teacher thing. Sure, a few make the most of it and really go all out, but a lot of them seem rather stagnant.
>> No. 429252 Anonymous
29th July 2019
Monday 7:14 am
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>>429251
You can say that about most career paths. There are those who achieve because they conceive and can believe whilst others plan for failure by failing to plan.
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29th July 2019
Monday 1:58 pm
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>>429252

Except you have much more to lose if you just decide to up sticks and move to an island archipelago nearly 2,000 miles from home, just because you think life there will be like an endless package holiday. And upon returning to Britain after you've failed, you will have to rebuild your life almost from scratch, and on top of that, most of your savings will be gone from your failed career venture abroad. Which will be one big reason why you had to return in the first place.

As estate agent lad from Leeds told me, the difference between holidaying in paradise and working there is having to stand in the mid-day sun in 30-degree heat in a dark suit for three hours, and often not getting a day on the beach in weeks.

It still seems more appealing than some of the shit office jobs I have had here in Britain.

With Brexit though, nobody knows for sure what is going to happen. British expats make up a large chunk of holiday home buyers in almost all of Spain, and the Canaries are no exception. Apparently, a lot of British estate agents there are now brushing up their Italian, French or German language skills, because those nationalities have started becoming the main clientele of foreign buyers, in all the Brexit uncertainty.
>> No. 429293 Anonymous
30th July 2019
Tuesday 6:02 am
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>>429252

I didn't mean ESL as a career path though. The ESL thing is unique because you can take a drastic cut in your working hours with no real difference in life quality. You then have a lot more time than you'd have otherwise. Most ESL teachers seem to have ambitions around film, art, music, writing, programming, and what not- and this lifestyle offers time for that. Conventional career paths here don't have that- you work hard for a promotion, or you work the same hours but it easy and get by.

ESL teaching kind of bumps you up a class level and offers you a different socioeconomic situation. It's a bit like saying you can do full-time in Sainsbury's for £1,300 a month, or ten hours a week in Tesco's for the same amount a month. A lot people would go for Tesco's with the aim to 'really use that time', but I'm not sure many would really make the most of that. It's a bloody hard thing to do anyway.

I mean of course, people can become stagnant in any position and in any field, but I think it's exaggerated with easy work abroad roles.
>> No. 429360 Anonymous
4th August 2019
Sunday 3:54 pm
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Bought some peaches again last night, for 60p a pound. Fully ripe and everything, fucking delish. Must be a really good year for peaches, the staff in the produce section said so as well.
>> No. 429447 Anonymous
10th August 2019
Saturday 1:08 pm
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Bit windy out lads.
>> No. 429450 Anonymous
10th August 2019
Saturday 1:21 pm
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Aye. This weekend I will be mostly picking up apples and branches.
>> No. 429451 Anonymous
10th August 2019
Saturday 1:22 pm
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>>429447
I enjoy it. Sounds nice.
>> No. 429452 Anonymous
10th August 2019
Saturday 1:34 pm
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>>429450
I've lost a big branch from a tree in my garden too. This weekend I will mostly be purchasing a small chainsaw.
>> No. 429454 Anonymous
10th August 2019
Saturday 1:35 pm
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Visited my nan in the care home. The wheel is turning but the hamster is pissed.
>> No. 429455 Anonymous
10th August 2019
Saturday 1:36 pm
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>>429450

Not to be that cunt again but what is the law regarding this? A whole tree came down in my local park and it was a shame to see that wood going to waste. Keep it in the ecosystem, sure, but man is a part of the system. At least give a portion to woodworking charities, you know?
>> No. 429457 Anonymous
10th August 2019
Saturday 1:43 pm
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>>429455

The law is help yourself to it if nobody stops you and if they do you say oh whoops sorry and leave.
>> No. 429458 Anonymous
10th August 2019
Saturday 1:44 pm
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>>429452 Can't recommend Parker stuff highly enough.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/58cc-20-Petrol-Chainsaw-2-x-Chains-More/301375992350
Also available from Amazon.
I've got a 'proper' Stihl & Bosch electric, but the parker just keeps on rocking, even though I abuse it horribly and it's got a lot of hours on it now.
I love a good day's chainsawing. Roll on, winter, got quite a few trees earmarked for the chopper...
>> No. 429460 Anonymous
10th August 2019
Saturday 1:46 pm
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>>429457 This is also my understanding.
At least pay lip service to safety - keep kids & pets away, don't dig tyre ruts into wet ground, but otherwise, finders keepers.
Bad form to leave all the green stuff and just take the wood, mind.
>> No. 429461 Anonymous
10th August 2019
Saturday 1:47 pm
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>>429455
In public places, windfall is fair game. On private late, it belongs to the landowner.
>> No. 429471 Anonymous
10th August 2019
Saturday 6:27 pm
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I've been thinking about it. Mary Poppins would definitely, definitely get it. She's a bit of a minx.
>> No. 429474 Anonymous
11th August 2019
Sunday 10:36 am
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>>429471
>Perfect in every way
Uh huh, okay Mary, coming on a bit strong there.
>> No. 429478 Anonymous
11th August 2019
Sunday 1:27 pm
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I've been here seven-and-a-half years and it only just occured to me zooming the page out a bit might make the UI a bit less obnoxious.
>> No. 429484 Anonymous
11th August 2019
Sunday 6:52 pm
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My next holiday in the Canaries probably won't happen until late September.

Which is fine, because that's the start of prickly pear season and I will get to make cactus jam again.
>> No. 429485 Anonymous
11th August 2019
Sunday 7:04 pm
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>>429484
Scunthorpe : 'Overwhelmed' firefighters battle huge blaze on holiday island

About 1,000 people have been forced to flee a huge mountain fire on the holiday island of Scunthorpe .

Troops have been drafted in to help 200 firefighters battle the blaze, which currently spans nearly 2,500 acres, about 20 miles from the capital Las Palmas. It has completely wiped out the island's crop of prickly pears, meaning there will be no cactus jam in supply for when that lad who always talks about his holidays to the Canary Islands has his next jaunt to Scunthorpe , so he'll have to focus on which hire car to choose or something else instead.


https://news.sky.com/story/gran-canaria-hundreds-evacuated-as-mountain-fire-rages-on-holiday-island-11782744
>> No. 429486 Anonymous
11th August 2019
Sunday 7:38 pm
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>>429485

Yorkies, eh?
>> No. 429487 Anonymous
11th August 2019
Sunday 9:30 pm
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>>429485

At least he shut up about his potatoes in red sauce for a bit. Cactus jam made a nice change, although a nice 2000 word post about which car he'll hire this time in order to reach those prickly pears on the highest outcrops and were untouched by the fires is definitely something I'll be awaiting with baited breath.
>> No. 429488 Anonymous
11th August 2019
Sunday 9:58 pm
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I think I might have gout. My right big toe joint hurts excessively and even brushing it up against my bedsheets is unpleasant. There's no real swelling but it is very hot.

The issue I have, as I always do with things like this, is that I have a relatively high pain threshold so whenever I share with friends and family, or even a doctor, that I think I have certain ailments all I'll get is "oh if you had that you'd be screaming in agony, you can't have that because you seem fine", but usually I do have the thing, and I'm just not reacting to it quite as severely as expected. I worked an entire week with appendicitis and thought I just had constipation, so I think it's entirely possible I'm having a gout attack, just quietly. I am definitely concerned that if I go to the doctors they'll shrug it off because I'm not screaming the clinic down - do they do any tests for gout, or do they just prod at your foot and decide that way? As I say, there's no real visible swelling or redness.
>> No. 429489 Anonymous
11th August 2019
Sunday 10:12 pm
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>>429487

Holidaying in the Canaries is hardly the dullest recurring theme on .gs.
>> No. 429490 Anonymous
11th August 2019
Sunday 10:43 pm
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>>429488

Maybe you kicked your toe against the bedroom wall in your sleep?

I had a dream once that I was playing football with my mates and then when it was my turn to kick the ball, I actually kicked my foot against my bedroom wall and woke up from a sharp intense pain in my big toe. Walking and wearing shoes was a bit painful for a day or two.
>> No. 429491 Anonymous
11th August 2019
Sunday 10:52 pm
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>>429490

It didn't come on suddenly, rather started as an ache and grew from there. It's mostly in the joint so unlikely to be that.
>> No. 429492 Anonymous
11th August 2019
Sunday 11:20 pm
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>>429491

There is a diagnostic test for gout, but it's far too expensive for the NHS so your GP will just ask you a few questions and have a look at your foot. The standard treatment for a first episode of gout is ibuprofen and reducing your intake of purine, so it'd be entirely reasonable to treat yourself and go to your GP if it doesn't improve. If you have repeated episodes of gout, they can prescribe a drug called allopurinol to reduce the chances of a future recurrence.

https://www.drugs.com/cg/low-purine-diet.html

>>429487

I quite like Scunthorpe lad. It's nice to see a bit of genuine enthusiasm.
>> No. 429493 Anonymous
12th August 2019
Monday 1:45 am
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I feel increasingly bad for making what I believe was the very first "ooh, get him, being all I'm off to the Canaries" type post. I was only poking fun.

I should get that on my tombstone.
>> No. 429494 Anonymous
12th August 2019
Monday 8:46 am
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Just thirding that I enjoy that lads' posts and any mocking or exasperation is from a place of affection rather than annoyance.

Clearly canarylad doesn't give a shit what we think though, he's never been put off.
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12th August 2019
Monday 11:14 am
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>>429490
Huh, I had a similar dream once too, only it involved kicking someone in the face.
I clearly recall the thought that emerged right in the moment, 'Oh fuck me, what's your face made of, bricks?' as I woke up in split-second feeling pain.
>> No. 429499 Anonymous
12th August 2019
Monday 12:19 pm
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>>429494

I can take a joke and I don't mind being teased about my love for the Canary Islands. One man's diamond is still just another man's lump of coal, after all. And I can also see why people would think that Large Canary Island is just about the most humdrum, unexciting place to go on a holiday. And it is, by and large, if you just stick to the ten-story, 3-star tourist ghetto hotels. But I've fallen in love with the abundance of exciting places there that exist outside the world of bargain bin package holidays where people spend their eight days on the island getting off their tits on all inclusive beer at the hotel pool. Large Canaria is known for offering that kind of holiday experience in bulk just like Majorca, if that's what you want, but the reputation it has gained from that is very undeserved, because there are a million different other ways you can spend your time there.

And it's no understatement to say that I am awestruck at the island's natural beauty off the beaten path everytime I visit. You've got volcanic mountain ranges with 2000-foot near-vertical cliff faces often within a 30-minute drive from the coast. There are gorgeous pine forests around the island's summit, landscapes in the southern polar dotted with cacti and other succulent plant species that look more like the American Southwest, and the desolate, wind battered west coast with its inaccessible rugged shorelines is also worth a visit, where the water is always so wild in places that you'd drown in minutes if you swam there. Not to mention the weathered road that curves around the mountains there and is one of the scariest driving experiences on the entire island, where you're often just inches away from dropping off into several hundred feet of nothingness below you. And finally, you've got Las Palmas, a spectacular city with Latin American flair and meticulously kept subtropical parks, a picturesque Spanish Colonial old town, and one of Europe's largest sea ports.

Also, the Canaries tend to be a little bit more expensive, meaning you can expect to spend around £100 to £130 more per person and week than you would in Magaluf, and your flight there takes nearly twice as long as going to Majorca. Which means that by and large, all things considered, the tourist clientele in the Canaries isn't as grotty and lads-holiday chavvy as in Magaluf. If you're skint and can just barely afford getting off your tits in the sun for a week, you're more likely to go to Magaluf than to Maspalomas, is what I am saying.
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16th August 2019
Friday 7:13 pm
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Drinking alcoholic dandelion and burdock. It tastes like Covonia.
>> No. 429567 Anonymous
16th August 2019
Friday 11:05 pm
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I'm starting to think Grancanarilad is actually just a shill for Big Canaries.

He just can't stop telling up about all the exciting and undiscovered places off the beaten track he's in love with. He's less believable than a radio ad for Heinz soup.

I'm onto you pal. There's nothing I can't put Big in front of and see straight through the con.
>> No. 429574 Anonymous
17th August 2019
Saturday 10:17 am
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HOORAY I AM NOW ON HOLIDAY.

I am looking forward to two weeks off doing nothing.
>> No. 429578 Anonymous
17th August 2019
Saturday 12:44 pm
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>>429567

>Big Canaries

Mirth.

Do you really think I've got nothing better to do besides advertising the Canary Islands on an image board to an audience of maybe, maybe not ten regular posters? Also, .gslad mainly likes to see his preconceived notions confirmed, so it'd be pearls before swine either way.
>> No. 429579 Anonymous
17th August 2019
Saturday 1:31 pm
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>>429578
>Do you really think I've got nothing better to do besides advertising the Canary Islands on an image board to an audience of maybe, maybe not ten regular posters?
Er, yes? This is .gs, after all, so presumably it's that or have a wank.
>> No. 429580 Anonymous
17th August 2019
Saturday 1:47 pm
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>>429579

Preconceived notions, lad.

Preconceived notions.
>> No. 429581 Anonymous
17th August 2019
Saturday 2:08 pm
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I can't work out if I'm boring or just organised.

I like having few clothes, but enough for every occasion, folded neatly and ironed should I need them.

I like my desktop table with my mac, Google Home, magic mouse and lamp and nothing else.

I like my carefully chosen houseplants and accompanying pots. My teapot, my freshly made bed and my very minimalist lifestyle where my greatest expense is slightly nicer food.

I like my consistently hoovered floor and everything where it should be.

Am I just growing up and organised or am I boring twat? Who knows, maybe both.
>> No. 429582 Anonymous
17th August 2019
Saturday 2:34 pm
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>>429581
Doesn't folding clothes after ironing them just fold creases into them?
>> No. 429583 Anonymous
17th August 2019
Saturday 3:23 pm
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>>429582

I'm wondering that as well.

I normally just hang my button shirts in the closet when they're washed and dry, and only iron them up just before I wear them.

Most of my shirts are non-iron / wrinkle free now though, which is a real time saver.
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17th August 2019
Saturday 3:25 pm
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>>429581

Definitely boring. I'm sorry, m9.
>> No. 429585 Anonymous
17th August 2019
Saturday 5:14 pm
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>>429581
Boring, but happy with it? Then fine, can't see any problem with that.

I couldn't live like that, but I don't have to, so life is good.
>> No. 429586 Anonymous
17th August 2019
Saturday 6:59 pm
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>>429581
You sound tidy is all. Don't let the Wakefield massive slag you off just because their homes look like System Shock meets Nothing but Trouble.
>> No. 429587 Anonymous
17th August 2019
Saturday 7:42 pm
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>>429578

I mean, you do spend quite a lot of time advertising the island to us here either way, so I'd hope you're getting some sort of kickback.
>> No. 429588 Anonymous
17th August 2019
Saturday 8:01 pm
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>>429587

Cheflad isn't advertising eating to us, is he? And Big Kitchen isn't paying him for it probably.
>> No. 429589 Anonymous
17th August 2019
Saturday 9:56 pm
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My brother-in-law has to be the biggest manchild I have ever met. I don't think I've encountered someone who couldn't function as an adult at this level without having learning difficulties. He's 25 and never worked and isn't on benefits because he was sanctioned almost every week for forgetting to sign on. I can't envisage him ever leaving his mum's because he is nigh on unemployable. He stayed over with his mum last night I'm mainly having a mini-rant because on several occasions he went to the toilet and left piss all over the seat and didn't switch the light off when he left. It isn't malicious. He just doesn't think because he acts like he's still 8. and he spent the evening not talking to anyone and watching YouTube videos on his phone. He doesn't wash his hair properly and he stinks of BO and bad breath. He also wears oversized formal shirts all the time, so he looks like a child who has borrowed his dad's work clothes. I just don't understand how someone can end up in such a state at that age, even if their mother is enabling it.
>> No. 429595 Anonymous
18th August 2019
Sunday 12:22 am
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>>429589
How on earth is he married? Or is he the brother of your wife?
>> No. 429596 Anonymous
18th August 2019
Sunday 1:18 am
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>>429595
As far as I'm aware he's only been in a relationship once, which was brief and when he was in college with a girl who also suffers from poor personal hygiene.
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18th August 2019
Sunday 2:34 am
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>>429596

> with a girl who also suffers from poor personal hygiene.


Imagine the smell in their bedroom right after they bonked.
>> No. 429604 Anonymous
18th August 2019
Sunday 12:39 pm
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>>429589
How do you come back from that though?
>> No. 429605 Anonymous
18th August 2019
Sunday 1:02 pm
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>>429604

Have a wash, buck your ideas up, do a BTEC in something useful. Practically speaking, it's not massively difficult to get yourself back on track - the hard bit is finding and maintaining the motivation to change. I suspect he has underlying mental health problems; unfortunately, the support available through the NHS is totally inadequate at the moment. Some local authorities and CCGs do have a "recovery college" programme, which can be useful for people in this sort of situation - it focuses on confidence, social skills and the basic habits necessary to function in society.

With that said, it's probably all for nought if his mother is constantly sabotaging any efforts he might be making to sort his life out, which is distressingly common. It's not particularly PC to say it, but a lot of divorced or unmarried mothers raise their kids in a deeply unhealthy codependent manner, because they're desperately afraid of being alone and don't want their children to become independent. Those parenting habits often develop after a traumatic divorce or abandonment and they're very difficult to break once they've been established.
>> No. 429606 Anonymous
18th August 2019
Sunday 1:47 pm
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>>429605

>It's not particularly PC to say it, but a lot of divorced or unmarried mothers raise their kids in a deeply unhealthy codependent manner

I can definitely attest to this. It's almost impossible to talk about because "my mam was too nice to me" is not going to get much empathy from anyone.

I identify with a lot of what brother-in-law lad says, but unlike that chap, I've always been self aware enough to keep on top of it. My default state of being is zero housework, living in a hoarder-grade bedroom and not really looking after myself. I don't know if that's all just because I was raised by my mam, maybe I'm just a bit mental too and don't mind living in decay, but it's definitely partly because for the first eighteen or so years of my life, I could do whatever the fuck I wanted with zero consequences. It took me about a year of living with other people to clock that I had to clean up after myself and all of that, and I understand how infuriating that will sound to any normal person, but I literally didn't realise I was being a cunt until someone pointed it out. Even now I'd probably be happy to leave a sink full of dirty dishes for a month or so because I just never learned to care, but I do it because I'm lucky enough to be aware that I'm supposed to and empathetic enough to understand it bothers other people.

I've had to teach myself to clean, cook, manage money, have a relationship without feeling entitled to anything or owed anything, and I feel like I've successfully avoided ending up living with someone who's just a surrogate mother. Again, I understand how ridiculous this all sounds, that having a really nice mum can knack you up, but it's just what I've observed about myself.
>> No. 429607 Anonymous
18th August 2019
Sunday 2:02 pm
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>>429606
>My default state of being is zero housework, living in a hoarder-grade bedroom and not really looking after myself.

I had parents that would have hours long screaming rants at me, and rarely hit me, for not tidying my room, but I still live like this unless I make a concerted effort not to.
>> No. 429608 Anonymous
18th August 2019
Sunday 2:05 pm
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I just went into [generic high street coffee chain] and asked for my drink of choice. I got my card out to pay and the guy behind the counter said 'don't pay. It's free.'

I asked him if he was sure and he said 'yes it's on us' and so I just left, and could hear other customers paying as I walked out.

Did he just spit in my drink or something? This has never happened to me before.
>> No. 429609 Anonymous
18th August 2019
Sunday 2:25 pm
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>>429606

It's not niceness though, it's a failure to parent. You occasionally get stories in the tabloids about chavvy kids that start primary school still in nappies, or posh mums who are still breastfeeding their eight-year-old kids. We clearly see that as a kind of abuse, but we don't have the same attitude to parents that don't teach their teenage children the basic skills of independence. We think that it's OK to stick the boot into "manchildren", but nobody asks why they're still children, nobody is held accountable for their failure to finish the job of raising them.

A lot of mums don't want their kids to grow up, they don't teach their kids the skills they need to grow up, they actively sabotage any efforts their kids make to grow up of their own, because they don't have any identity other than "mother". They'd rather watch their children become miserable, lonely, unfulfilled adults than have to deal with the pain of being left behind. They need to be needed, otherwise what are they for? We don't see that kind of over-involved parenting as selfish and abusive, but we really should.
>> No. 429610 Anonymous
18th August 2019
Sunday 2:41 pm
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>>429608

You just pulled, and you didn't even notice. Proper fuckin blew it lad.
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18th August 2019
Sunday 3:20 pm
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>>429610

I'm straight with a girlfriend and he must have been a good 15-20 years older, but let's say I was interested, how does this even work? He expects me to climb over the counter and kiss him?

A nice compliment regardless, I thought he made a shit drink or something so couldn't justify charging me.
>> No. 429612 Anonymous
18th August 2019
Sunday 3:37 pm
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>>429611

Presumably invite him for a coffee in [competing high street coffee chain].
>> No. 429613 Anonymous
18th August 2019
Sunday 4:54 pm
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>>429608
This happened to me in Pret when there was a line so I just assumed they do it to prioritise customer service. Few weeks later a girl posted on Facebook that she got free coffee at Starbucks because she was there all the time studying.

I suppose it makes sense in a way that individual coffee is almost all profit so they can give it away and reap benefits in return custom.
>> No. 429614 Anonymous
18th August 2019
Sunday 5:10 pm
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Burning some wood with a friend tonight.
Last year i saved a little iron filings from some grinding work, which proved a hit when scattering over the bonfire.
:)
>> No. 429615 Anonymous
18th August 2019
Sunday 5:14 pm
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>>429613

Didn't want to get accused of supporting Big Coffee, but this was Pret. There was no queue though, it was just me and somebody behind me on a fairly quiet Monday.

At risk of sounding a weirdo this was the first time I've ever actually bought a 'latte' and been in one of these places because I wanted to try it and never drink coffee etc, so I wasn't sure if I'd missed some sort of random giveaway hour.
>> No. 429616 Anonymous
18th August 2019
Sunday 5:31 pm
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>>429615

Pret have an official policy of giving away freebies to nice people.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/apr/22/pret-free-coffee-people-they-like-discrimination-or-nice-gesture
>> No. 429617 Anonymous
18th August 2019
Sunday 5:42 pm
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>>429615
>Monday.

Don't do this to me, lad. My heart can't take it.

>>429616
Can't be right, I'm a shithouse and I still get free coffee. I think that they HAVE to give free coffee out so your best bet is to work out when their shift-pattern ends and come in on the last day.

Still better than messing about with stamps
>> No. 429619 Anonymous
18th August 2019
Sunday 7:06 pm
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>>429605
His dad left home when he was about three, so he was brought up by his mum and his two older sisters. He never stood a chance. Relations with his dad are strained; picture Derek Acorah Christmas cards.

Thinking about it, his other sister is nearly as lazy as he is. However, she's taken to popping out kids as a career choice. She has children by three different men and her current relationship, not the father of any of these, is with a man almost 25 years older than her who dotes on her. She's usually found on her sofa glued to her phone and ignoring her kids; she doesn't even cook them meals and will instead give them sausage rolls and crisps in front of the TV.

I'm almost certain he doesn't have any mental health issues. I've never seen anything to suggest he's depressed, even though a lot of his behaviours would tally up with this. He's simply a giant child who has never actually had to grow up.
>> No. 429624 Anonymous
18th August 2019
Sunday 11:26 pm
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I'm actually jonesing for some honey. It's not like sugar is it? You can't get fat from bee food. Although some bees are quite fat...
>> No. 429630 Anonymous
19th August 2019
Monday 9:42 am
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>>429624
Honey has lots of sugar in it.
>> No. 429631 Anonymous
19th August 2019
Monday 9:50 am
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>>429630
Fucking bees.
>> No. 429675 Anonymous
19th August 2019
Monday 8:37 pm
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>>429630

I thought it had sucrose but not glucose.
>> No. 429676 Anonymous
19th August 2019
Monday 8:43 pm
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>>429675
Typical honey is around 30% mono glucose, 40% mono fructose and 1% sucrose.
>> No. 429807 Anonymous
24th August 2019
Saturday 11:17 am
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Moo.

My laptop's fan was making very loud noises despite the fact it wasn't doing anything, so I put my mouth over the intake and blew right into it, resulting in what amounted to a dust facial.
>> No. 429809 Anonymous
24th August 2019
Saturday 1:17 pm
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I'm at work, and went to subway for lunch. But it seems they've stopped doing the sandwich I liked, which was chicken and pepperoni with marinara sauce.

I'm going to spend the rest of the afternoon listening to a Dan Carlin podcast and probably talk to a lot of worried doctors on the phone about MERS.
>> No. 429810 Anonymous
24th August 2019
Saturday 1:33 pm
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>>429809
Can't you ask for specific toppings at Subway?
>> No. 429813 Anonymous
24th August 2019
Saturday 4:07 pm
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>>429807

It's probably a sign of the bearings of the fan motor being worn down. You can try opening your laptop and maybe also the fan assembly, and putting a few drops of oil onto those bearings, but once they've worn, it's usually just a temporary fix.

Your best bet is to look on eBay if somebody is selling a laptop just like yours for scraps, and then install the fan from that laptop in yours. You might also be able to sell the other parts of that laptop again on eBay, so you'll come out even again without having had to pay a single quid for your fan.
>> No. 429815 Anonymous
24th August 2019
Saturday 4:32 pm
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>>429813
I don't know, the sound's gone and this laptop never does anything more intensive than loading a YT video, and it lacks the faculties to play those in greater than 360p.
>> No. 429816 Anonymous
24th August 2019
Saturday 4:52 pm
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>>429815
Sounds like it might have been just the dust buildup. A blast of canned air tends to sort that out without getting yourself a flaky bukkake.
>> No. 429820 Anonymous
24th August 2019
Saturday 8:05 pm
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Saw that there's wildfires in that large canary isle. Sending my hopes and prayers that our lad still has prickly pears to cone back to.
>> No. 429821 Anonymous
24th August 2019
Saturday 8:23 pm
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>>429820
I too hope Bigdoglad is okay. This place would be pretty boring if it were just you and me.
>> No. 429823 Anonymous
24th August 2019
Saturday 10:17 pm
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>>429815

Once the fan starts making noises, it will probably continue to do so, intermittently at first, and then more frequently.

Try a few drops of adequate oil/lubricant first though, before you resort to more drastic measures. And do NOT use WD-40, because it's just a temporary fix and tends to flush out whatever factory applied lubricant is still inside the bearing.

It's not quite common knowledge, but WD-40 is just about the worst thing you can do to noisy ball bearings.
>> No. 429850 Anonymous
25th August 2019
Sunday 12:29 pm
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>>429823
I appriciate your concern, but look at this thing. Anything I spray on it is likely to more valuable than the machine itself. Instead I'm going to use the ticking clock as motivation to vacate this lump ASAP. In fairness it does have a keyboard which is more than can be said for my marginally more powerful laptop.
>> No. 429852 Anonymous
25th August 2019
Sunday 12:40 pm
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Moved into a new flat and won't have internet for a few days. Thankfully I can tether, but resisting the urge to YouTube is taking a lot of strength.
>> No. 429853 Anonymous
25th August 2019
Sunday 12:48 pm
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>>429852
> but resisting the urge to YouTube is taking a lot of strength.
Are you on some 1gb poverty plan?
>> No. 429854 Anonymous
25th August 2019
Sunday 12:56 pm
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>>429850

1.3 GHz dual core isn't all that bad. Until recently, I still had a second laptop with an Intel Atom N450 CPU that was doing 1.66 GHz on a single core with 32-bit Windows 7. Performance was piss poor, HD youtube video was nigh on impossible to stream with a frame rate of more than about 5 fps, but it was enough to do e-mail, write letters, listen to music, and surf most news web sites. Even did some web site and Arduino programming on it. And it was still my go-to to take on holidays, because somebody nicking it would not have been a great loss.

I forgot to say, the noise from a noisy fan doesn't necessarily come from the bearings themselves, except if it's kind of a characteristic higher-pitched whirring or howling sound. It usually happens when bearings are exposed to damp or moist environments. That moisture then corrodes the balls inside the bearing and makes them noisy. It happens a lot on older washing machines.

Oftentimes though, ball bearings develop "give" over time, which leads to unbalanced rotation of the fan blade and causes it to graze the inside of the fan housing. That's what you have if it's more a lower frequency "sawing" noise. And it's also a tell-tale sign if the noise is intermittent, because giving the fan a thump can rebalance the fan blade temporarily, until the next time it goes off balance again. The whirring noise of corroded bearings tends to be constant and not come and go. If you have a spike in CPU core temperature while you hear the noise, that's also a sign of an unbalanced fan blade, because it slows down its rotation and lessens the cooling effect.
>> No. 429862 Anonymous
25th August 2019
Sunday 2:07 pm
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>>429853

Many carriers charge tethering separately to regular 4G, so he might just have little to no tethering data, even on an expensive plan.
>> No. 429864 Anonymous
25th August 2019
Sunday 2:25 pm
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>>429862
This always fucks me off. I'm paying for the data, I'll use it anyway I fucking well please, thank you very much. If I want to spaff it all away on scanning the internet for open VNC servers, leaving me with nothing left to watch cat videos for the rest of the month, that's my problem.
>> No. 429865 Anonymous
25th August 2019
Sunday 2:43 pm
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>>429862 >>429864
They try but any idiot can install an app to subvert their detection.
>> No. 429866 Anonymous
25th August 2019
Sunday 3:08 pm
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>>429865

It's easy but not as easy as you make out. IIRC you have to root your android device to do it.
>> No. 429867 Anonymous
25th August 2019
Sunday 3:10 pm
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>>429853
>>429862
>>429864
>>429865
As far as I can tell, Vodafone does not charge extra for tethering, but I am aware how quickly 6GB (which is how much data I have left) can be eaten up by 1440p YouTube videos. I have it set to 360 and it's tolerable, but I'd rather not go over my limit, so I'm still being careful. Plus, I'd like some data for when I'm not at my PC.
>> No. 429868 Anonymous
25th August 2019
Sunday 3:18 pm
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>>429867

I have the unlimited data thingy from Three, but 'only' 35gb of tethering. That can quickly rack up though when tethering a laptop, like you say.

There are ways to circumvent the tethering from being detected, but I haven't found a way to do it without rooting my phone, which I can't really do as I have work apps on there that refuse to be installed on a rooted device (I'm sure there's ways around that too, but who has the time? I'll just download my porn before work)
>> No. 429870 Anonymous
25th August 2019
Sunday 3:30 pm
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>>429866
Nope.

>>429868
http://www.pdanet.co/a/
>> No. 429871 Anonymous
25th August 2019
Sunday 4:28 pm
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>>429870

That also costs eight quid though.
>> No. 429872 Anonymous
25th August 2019
Sunday 5:00 pm
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Fired up my old PC after a two months long halt.
This time Windows did exactly what the folks said it would do after long periods of non-use: the system tray broke.
I've never tried to run virtualisation on this rig, suspecting that it won't do well. I was right. Even a lightweight Bunsenlabs distro in a VM offers mediocre performance at best.

For comparison, the same distro runs smoothly under virtualisation on my laptop which is an eight-year old i3 Sandy Bridge machine.

Sage for going /g/.
>> No. 429873 Anonymous
25th August 2019
Sunday 6:29 pm
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>>429871
Ah, so you're about as tight as the phone companies are greedy.
>> No. 429874 Anonymous
25th August 2019
Sunday 6:31 pm
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I'm going to get a quality computer if it kills me, not that there's any reason it should. I'm so damn tired of this 2012 bullshit I'm on now.
>> No. 429875 Anonymous
25th August 2019
Sunday 7:52 pm
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>>429874
There hasn't been any good desktop processors released in over ten years.


>> No. 429876 Anonymous
25th August 2019
Sunday 8:33 pm
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>>429875
I want an ultrawide IPS monitor, or maybe even VR, so I can watch my dad get sick as he tries to drive around Spa and I want a fat Ryzen CPU to run it off. Neither of my two laptops can even run Skyrim properly for goodness sake. I want to edit video and not have wait three minutes to jump around my timeline. Just take my word on this: my computer situation is terrible and I desire an improvement.
>> No. 429877 Anonymous
25th August 2019
Sunday 8:43 pm
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how in the everloving shit do i survive this heat
it's hotter in my room than it is outside
gonna have to nip to argos tomorrow and buy a real fan this tiny desk one isn't cutting it
>> No. 429878 Anonymous
25th August 2019
Sunday 8:47 pm
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>>429877
Take out all the shelving in your fridge and sit in it.
>> No. 429879 Anonymous
25th August 2019
Sunday 8:50 pm
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>>429878
i would but i live in a studio bedsit so the fridge is about 4ft high and i'm 6.

so far i've been fridging bottles of water and pouring one over my head fully clothed in the shower every half hour, but this is far from a logical solution
>> No. 429880 Anonymous
25th August 2019
Sunday 8:51 pm
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>>429879
Fold yourself in half where your legs meet your torso.
>> No. 429882 Anonymous
25th August 2019
Sunday 9:26 pm
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Do elderly folk adopt Japanese people? Every now and then I see an old couple who seem to be taking a Japanese person, generally aged in their twenties, on a day out somewhere.
>> No. 429883 Anonymous
25th August 2019
Sunday 10:05 pm
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>>429877
Recently suffered heat stress/exhaustion here from working outside in the heat for weeks. Cold showers are always a good way to cool down quick or submerge your feet in cold water for 15-30 minutes or use ice packs or wet clothes on your neck, wrists and forehead to help cool you down. Wear as little clothing as you can get away with and nothing tight or restricting, preferably stuff that wicks moisture away from the skin. Slather yourself in sun tan lotion if you're going out and always seek shade. Air conditioned places are heaven.

It's fucking ridiculous.
>> No. 429884 Anonymous
25th August 2019
Sunday 10:24 pm
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>>429882

The incongruous Japs are probably homestay guests. They pay a fee for room, board and an "authentic British experience", mainly to improve their English language skills. You could do the same thing in Japan, if you were so inclined.

https://www.ilh.com/
>> No. 430069 Anonymous
31st August 2019
Saturday 3:54 pm
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Bollocks...
>> No. 430072 Anonymous
31st August 2019
Saturday 5:25 pm
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Today I have been bramble picking.

It's relatively early in the season and the forecast was for rain this morning so I largely had the woods to myself; I saw a couple of dog walkers and a family on bikes but they weren't there to pick brambles, they were not my rivals. The heavens opened on the walk to the woods and I ended up thoroughly soaked but it was a small price to pay to have the first pick of the crop all to myself. The sun soon came out and I began to dry off and picking in earnest. If anything the sun shining on the freshly rain washed brambles made them look even more succulent. The only real challenge I faced was the nettles; this year they seem to have grown extraordinarily high and become entwined with the bramble branches. However, I had my trusty brambling stick so I was undeterred. The brambles were large and juicy. I was able to grab large handfuls from the branches and they came away with minimal effort. I now have a tub (23.8 x 22.6 x 10.6 cm) so I think I'll have a go at making bramble ice cream later.

Seriously, lads. A day out brambling is highly therapeutic. You should all try it. Not in the woods I go to, mind.
>> No. 430073 Anonymous
31st August 2019
Saturday 5:39 pm
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>>430072
I picked all of those in my garden this week too - its definitely the right time of year for it. Might make an apple/bramble crumble tonight.
>> No. 430078 Anonymous
31st August 2019
Saturday 8:45 pm
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>>430072

I remember bramble picking as a kid on the canal, home made bramble pie after Sunday dinner.
>> No. 430079 Anonymous
31st August 2019
Saturday 8:52 pm
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>>430072

I collected bramble too today and am about to make a bramble and white chocolate cake. The secret is to grate about half a bar of white chocolate into your cake batter, as well as turning the brambles in plenty of crystal sugar before gently dropping them into your cake mould. It's important not to stir the brambles into the cake batter because they are so delicate. Also add a dash of vanilla extract and lemon zest. And then after baking, cover the top of the cake in melted white chocolate.

I'll post a pic later tonight if it's a success.
>> No. 430092 Anonymous
1st September 2019
Sunday 1:22 am
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Today I found out that my closest friends think I'm privileged and that I always land on my feet. I'm not really sure where this has come from as we've all had extremely similar upbringings. I mean, I'm going to earn almost £20k more than any of them in this tax year but I'd always chalked this down to achieving more desirable qualifications, hard work and ambition whilst they made poor life choices (or suffered from inertia and didn't make any) rather than anything resembling privilege.
>> No. 430093 Anonymous
1st September 2019
Sunday 2:11 am
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The two brambles in my garden have made a ridiculous amount of fruit this year. I must have picked enough to fill the 2l jug 4-5 times. I don't bake but I've made enough fruit leather to skin a marple cow.
>> No. 430114 Anonymous
1st September 2019
Sunday 1:33 pm
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Another summer down the drain.
At least it was somewhat less shite than the previous.
>> No. 430115 Anonymous
1st September 2019
Sunday 5:48 pm
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>>430092

People who are successful always, always attribute their success to hard work and intelligent planning rather than blind luck. And yet when we are going through a difficult patch in life, we seldom tell me ourselves it's because we're a fucking moron who chose the wrong degree or whatever. We use phrases like down on our luck or waiting for something better to come along. The reality is that it's never one or the other.

Chances are you probably are privileged compared to your mates, and they're probably not the slackers you seem to picture them as. You probably met the right person at the right time they never did. You happened to study something that was in higher demand than them and neither of you at 18 had any idea the difference it would make.

Quite apart from all that, people are nit naturally supportive of the success of others above themselves, especially if that person isn't humble about it. You appear to be existing in a fantasy realm where anyone seriously thinks well off people deserve to be more well off than them because they read more books and worked harder, which nobody does (in large part because it has almost nothing to do with actually ending up better off.)

TL;DR Just be more humble, or accept that you have an extra twenty grand they don't so you can afford to be seen as privileged.
>> No. 430118 Anonymous
1st September 2019
Sunday 6:08 pm
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>>430115
Incoming cunt-off in three... two... one...

...I'll get my coat.
>> No. 430124 Anonymous
1st September 2019
Sunday 7:46 pm
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>>430115
These are people I've known since secondary school who were generally in the same sets I was. Their parents either had similar level jobs to mine or slightly better paying ones.

I was rejected from dozens of jobs after graduating because my social skills and lack of confidence meant that I always gave an absolutely terrible account of myself. I spent over half a year signing on before I got an admin job paying minimum wage. I then got an entry level admin job somewhere else and started studying towards professional qualifications but by the age of 26 I was still only on £18k a year. It's only in the last three years that things have started to really take off, I'm doing quite well for myself at the age of 31 but I'm still a basic rate taxpayer so it's not like I'm a mega high earner, but that is down to the level of professional qualifications I have now and being very good at my job.

I don't understand where privilege comes into it. I didn't waltz into a high paying job straight from university and never had to worry about paying the bills. I think they believe they've incurred more hardship than me but I'd argue they've benefited from more privilege than I have. I've never racked up around £20,000 of credit card debt by maintaining a lifestyle I can't afford and then got my parents to pay it off. I didn't get my foot in the door in my career because I used to share a flat with someone who works as a project manager in that industry who was able to get me a job paying well above the going market rate. Admittedly I didn't spent almost 10 years working in a call centre or go to a former Poly like they also did, but still. I earn a lot more than them, that's literally all it boils down to.
>> No. 430126 Anonymous
1st September 2019
Sunday 9:14 pm
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>>430124

Interesting note on the universities. Sorry to hijack your subthread but I do find people saying how what university you go to matters and how it makes a huge difference.

Other than the networking it brings you nobody ever mentions that those who go to better unis are more likely to be studious, work hard, driven and achieve higher results, and there's no reason why that wouldn't reflect in job applications, them as a person and their performance at work.
>> No. 430127 Anonymous
1st September 2019
Sunday 9:45 pm
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Sorry for interjection, I've just found myself a bunch of pedantry mugs.
I suspect you've seen them all though.
>> No. 430128 Anonymous
1st September 2019
Sunday 9:45 pm
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I think I'm a bit fed up about people in the arts and entertainment business who act like they're on the good side, even though they're getting paid a mint while most of the crew get, comparitively, fuck all. And they benefit from all the advantages every other rich sod does. They aren't objectively evil like a lot of the ultra-wealthy, but you aren't all that just because you slated Trump in a Tweet, you posh turnip.

Also I really like the P-38 Lightning, beautiful aircraft.
>> No. 430129 Anonymous
1st September 2019
Sunday 9:48 pm
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>>430127
I still don't get the difference between "effect" and "affect".
>> No. 430130 Anonymous
1st September 2019
Sunday 9:53 pm
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>>430129
If only there were some kind of reference where you could look up the meanings of words. One of those would help you immensely with your troubles.
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1st September 2019
Sunday 9:58 pm
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>>430129

Easiest way to remember it for me is think of timing. "Effect" comes after as a result. "Affect" is to influence something right now.
>> No. 430132 Anonymous
1st September 2019
Sunday 10:09 pm
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>>430127

I often find people who have these sort of things tend to think they're much more intelligent than they really are and try to use their pseudo-intellectualism to make up for the deficit in their personality.
>> No. 430133 Anonymous
1st September 2019
Sunday 10:27 pm
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>>430132

It's kitsch nonsense that I'd hope most people can see right through.
>> No. 430134 Anonymous
1st September 2019
Sunday 10:34 pm
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>>430129
So do I for 'less'/'fewer'.
>>430128
Of aeroplanes, I vaguely recall a tale about a pilot of either an I-15 or I-16 - a small but very manoeuvreable aeroplane - during the early days of WW2. He got forced into a dog-fight with two German Messerchmidts. Having disposed of one - thanks to skill, Bf.109 out-classed I-15/16 by a long measure - he was all but doomed to fall prey to the remaining Messer.
Hell no. He notices a factory chimney nearby, flies there and starts doing donuts around it. The immense manoeuvreability of his machine allowed for it. It saved his life. The Messerschmidt couldn't do anything against that and had to fuck off. I don't recall the exact reason though, maybe it was the low fuel level, maybe the Soviets' back-up arrived.
>> No. 430135 Anonymous
1st September 2019
Sunday 10:36 pm
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>>430132
I don't take it too seriously. It's just a mug with a silly label on it. I saw it and immediately thought of .gs.
Not in a bad sense, mind you.
>> No. 430136 Anonymous
1st September 2019
Sunday 10:39 pm
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>>430134

>So do I for 'less'/'fewer'.

less --> non-countable amounts of something
fewer --> countable quantities


For example, you can have less brains, or you can have fewer brain cells.
>> No. 430137 Anonymous
1st September 2019
Sunday 11:36 pm
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>>430124

Yeah, but they're obviously not going to see it that way are they, that's just not what people are like.

No matter how rational you think you are there's always that thing inside your head, on some level, telling you that everything good in your life was your hard work and everything bad was misfortune, and vice versa for every cunt else.

Nobody sits there thinking "Yeah Daz really worked hard to get whee he is, he deserves it", instead we just think "Jammy sod. He should buy me a car."
>> No. 430299 Anonymous
7th September 2019
Saturday 9:14 am
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I fancy visiting the Peak District today, most likely the northern half. Where shall I go?
>> No. 430302 Anonymous
7th September 2019
Saturday 9:34 am
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>>430299
I've only really visited the southern half, so I can't help much. However, I didn't realise Macclesfield had it's own forest or Buxton wasn't techincally part of the Peak District until seeing that map.
>> No. 430303 Anonymous
7th September 2019
Saturday 10:14 am
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>>430299
Grand plan! Start at Edale and walk North. Fantastic area.
>> No. 430304 Anonymous
7th September 2019
Saturday 10:16 am
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I've been watching Peaky Blinders because loads of people have been telling me it's amazing, best thing since Breaking Bad, etc etc. I just don't get it. It's fine, it's not bad, but it feels like it's just a period costume drama with a couple extra fights and explosions in it to spice it up. There doesn't seem to be any consequences for the leads, but not in a satisfying way, just in a way that removes all peril and tension, and every few episodes it's like they've put the Sims cheat code in that gives them extra money. You just turn on an episode and suddenly everyone has a bigger house, it's odd. Nothing ever really happens, and the enemies just seem useless, despite the writing's attempt to make them threatening, the nature of the show and the way the Blinders lot never really actually suffer for longer than half a day before sorting it out just makes it fairly boring.

Maybe I'm just not cut out for telly anymore. I just don't get why so many people love it. I get why it's popular in America, because it's got funny accents and that, but why anyone in Britain can take it seriously is beyond me.

The actors do a good job, but they don't have much to work with.
>> No. 430305 Anonymous
7th September 2019
Saturday 10:35 am
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>>430304
> loads of people have been telling me it's amazing, best thing since Breaking Bad

Those people are clinically insane. Don't get me wrong, I do like Peaky Blinders, but it's no where close to BB's level. I agree with what you say about the lack of consequences too. It used to be that Tommy would get all morose and grim, but he's been like that for such a long time and he doesn't seem to mind, so why should I, the viewer? It's what I like to call the "minor superhero" genre, which is when the main character is such a dick-kicking, no-scoping, badman that nothing's ever going to do them much harm. Luther was another one. Like Luther I enjoy PB by not taking it very seriously, but it wasn't the Brummie Sopranos I was hoping for when I first watched it.

Also all our main characters are such amoral reprobates I wouldn't be too bothered if they were gunned down en masse.
>> No. 430306 Anonymous
7th September 2019
Saturday 10:43 am
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>>430304
Watched an episode. I thought it was shit. SHIT!
>> No. 430307 Anonymous
7th September 2019
Saturday 11:12 am
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>>430304

How far in are you? I can't stand TV for these very reasons but I have actually enjoyed Peaky Blinders and it's charted the journey from a rough family trying to pull it together to rising uk the scoietal ranks and how with money comes influence.

Also there are lots of consequences

Grace dies
His brother dies
Polly has that awful encounter with the bloke in jail


I could go on. Or are you one of these people that complains the main protagonist hasn't died even though that would make the show redundant when at the end of the day it's meant to be a bit of entertainment?
>> No. 430309 Anonymous
7th September 2019
Saturday 12:02 pm
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>>430307

Death IS entertainment, just ask the Romans.
>> No. 430311 Anonymous
7th September 2019
Saturday 12:35 pm
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>>430309
You're not wrong.
>> No. 430312 Anonymous
7th September 2019
Saturday 12:36 pm
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Peaky Blinders is a very entertaining but ultimately shallow action drama, so long as you approach it as such you won't be disappointed. The reason most people love it is because they don't want depth. They want a badass audience surrogate to feel empowered by, and that's exactly what Tommy is.

Every series has the same plot- Things are good, then some antagonist shows up, things look bad, but it turns out Tommy's had a plan all along. People like that kind of unchallenging, comfortable familiarity in a TV show. It's near enough the exact opposite of something like Game of Thrones, where the big selling point was always the tension of what will happen next- But whatever did happen was almost always a let down.

Also Tom Hardy's character is my favourite. He made me laugh, him.
>> No. 430314 Anonymous
7th September 2019
Saturday 2:11 pm
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Christ, I'd be so good looking if I wasn't going bald.
>> No. 430317 Anonymous
7th September 2019
Saturday 3:32 pm
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>>430314
Happens to the best of us lad. Solar panel for a sex machine.
>> No. 430319 Anonymous
7th September 2019
Saturday 5:42 pm
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I went for a walk around Derwent reservoir. A lot of scenery in this country is quite underrated.

>>430304
My friend's dad has started dressing like he's in Peaky Blinders. Waistcoats. Caps. Pocket watches. He even went on the Peaky Blinders tour in Birmingham in full gear; the tour guide jokingly mistook him as an extra from the show so he spent the rest of the tour swaggering around. He's a pensioner.
>> No. 430320 Anonymous
7th September 2019
Saturday 5:50 pm
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>>430307

>Or are you one of these people that complains the main protagonist hasn't died even though that would make the show redundant when at the end of the day it's meant to be a bit of entertainment?

I'm definitely not that sort of person. I like it when the bad guys win and I like it when they stay alive. I was sad when Pablo got shot in Narcos, despite obviously already knowing that was going to happen.

I know there's consequences written into the show, but they aren't written well, they don't seem to carry any real weight because of the way the characters are written. When someone dies they seem to move on within a couple of episodes. It took about half an episode for Michael to undisown Polly, it just seems all so trivial, even though it's obviously not supposed to be.

I think I'm just spoiled by better versions of the criminal empire story. As another lad said, the first season seemed to be heading for Brummie Sopranos, but they just couldn't get the nuance right so almost entirely gave up on the PTSD/depressed ex soldiers stuff.

I haven't seen all of it yet so maybe it does get better, I'm still watching it because like I say, it's not bad, it's just not got any teeth.
>> No. 430321 Anonymous
7th September 2019
Saturday 5:50 pm
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>>430314

Just shave it all off, women like a bald bloke. If you can grow a beard that helps, too.
>> No. 430322 Anonymous
7th September 2019
Saturday 7:15 pm
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>>430319
It's my favourite countryside in the UK - I wish it were closer, would definitely do more weekends there.
>> No. 430323 Anonymous
7th September 2019
Saturday 7:48 pm
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My poor dad, he's going to be so conflicted.
>> No. 430324 Anonymous
7th September 2019
Saturday 8:01 pm
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>>430323

I'm going to wank myself into a coma.
>> No. 430325 Anonymous
7th September 2019
Saturday 8:49 pm
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>>430323

Why not Meryl Streep again? She was good in that role.
>> No. 430326 Anonymous
7th September 2019
Saturday 9:04 pm
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>>430324
Dad, please...
>> No. 430327 Anonymous
7th September 2019
Saturday 9:07 pm
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>>430326

I've told you before, I'm not your dad, I'm just the bloke who's shagging your mum. Here's a tenner, go to the pictures or something.
>> No. 430328 Anonymous
7th September 2019
Saturday 9:16 pm
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>>430327
A tenner? I hope by "pictures" you mean a public art gallery.

>>430325
You can't force actors to play the same role over and over.
>> No. 430329 Anonymous
7th September 2019
Saturday 9:18 pm
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>>430328
Wait, you mean Michael Sheen willingly played Tony Blair three times?
>> No. 430334 Anonymous
8th September 2019
Sunday 1:58 pm
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I won £60 of Love 2 Shop vouchers and I went into Debenhams this morning to spend them, but there was absolutely fuck all worth getting.

Their entire range is aimed at middle aged women buying clothes for their husbands. I don't even know where I'm meant to shop these days. I feel too old for shit like Topman.
>> No. 430335 Anonymous
8th September 2019
Sunday 2:39 pm
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>>430334

H&M is the middle ground for your 20s and 30s. Some things in Topman are still fine if you remain skinny into your middle adulthood.
>> No. 430336 Anonymous
8th September 2019
Sunday 3:04 pm
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>>430335

>H&M is the middle ground for your 20s and 30s

It is if you're not skint enough to buy at Primark, but also too poor to afford proper brand-name clothing.
>> No. 430344 Anonymous
8th September 2019
Sunday 4:37 pm
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>>430334
Over the past couple years I've started exclusively clothes shopping over Amazon and haven't looked back. Rarely do I find myself having to settle with what is being sold and you can get some proper nice stuff at a good price. Sihohan boxers feel like you're wearing nothing at all.
>> No. 430351 Anonymous
8th September 2019
Sunday 6:15 pm
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>>430336
>too poor to afford proper brand-name clothing

The problem with fashion is that 90% of the time more expensive brands don't mean an increase in quality. It doesn't mean a better fit or it'll be more durable; you're simply paying to have a logo emblazoned on yourself like a giant advertising hoarding.
>> No. 430352 Anonymous
8th September 2019
Sunday 7:02 pm
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>>430351

That might be enough for the moment, pauperlad.
>> No. 430357 Anonymous
8th September 2019
Sunday 9:12 pm
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>>430336

Brand-name clothing is just for people who are too poor to afford proper tailoring.
>> No. 430359 Anonymous
8th September 2019
Sunday 9:34 pm
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>>430357

Even if I was a grandiose cunt more well to do person, I'd probably not have my clothes tailor made.
>> No. 430362 Anonymous
8th September 2019
Sunday 10:30 pm
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>>430359
Not him but you should consider getting some of your clothing tailored. Buy a size too big and get it tailored down, invest in a solid coloured high-mid level base and you will not only look amazing but with decent care you will have some nice outfits that last for years.

It's just that initial investment that puts people off.
>> No. 430363 Anonymous
8th September 2019
Sunday 10:37 pm
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>>430359

I'm a grandiose cunt, and I have to say, having tailored (or more often, fitted) clothes is just worth it. I'm definitely too old for topshop, but a shirt and trousers that fit properly just look great on an ugly old bald cunt like myself.
>> No. 430366 Anonymous
9th September 2019
Monday 12:19 am
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Made a minor mistake at work and got complained at a bit.

This was hours ago but I'm still thinking about it. I can't tell if I feel bad because my mistake inconvenienced someone, or because I made a mistake in the first place, or because someone noticed. Maybe it's a mixture of all three. I don't know why I'm being quite so sensitive about it, it's a fairly trivial matter.
>> No. 430367 Anonymous
9th September 2019
Monday 1:28 am
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>>430359

In that case, never buy anything bespoke. It'll ruin you for anything off-the-peg. Putting on your first bespoke garment is simultaneously joyous and awful, because you realise that until that moment you've never owned any item of clothing that actually fits properly. You can approximate it with careful shopping and alterations, but you just can't match the perfect fit of bespoke.
>> No. 430496 Anonymous
14th September 2019
Saturday 8:09 pm
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Fuck the A64. Seriously.
>> No. 430497 Anonymous
14th September 2019
Saturday 8:55 pm
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>>430496

I agree that it's shite, but there's so many ways to avoid it. I just learned to enjoy longer commutes through the countryside when I lived in Yorkshire. It's still quicker to blast down the B-roads from Leeds - York than taking the A64 anyway.
>> No. 430498 Anonymous
14th September 2019
Saturday 9:11 pm
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I went to Filey today. In hindsight I should have taken the A166 but I made the mistake of trusting my satnav.

The ring road around York needs to be a motorway, but the A64 onwards is far worse. I don't understand how so many drivers don't grasp the concept of two lanes merging into one properly.
>> No. 430499 Anonymous
14th September 2019
Saturday 9:29 pm
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I don't think I've eaten any biscuits all week and I'm really fucking jonesing. Honestly a 500% tax on baked sweet goods would add years to my life.
>> No. 430500 Anonymous
14th September 2019
Saturday 10:25 pm
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Spent the day in the sun, stirring wheatpasting mix, helping water a community garden (mostly involving filling and carrying huge water containers around so other people could refill their watering cans from them) and dividing large rolls of stickers into smaller rolls for people to take. Met some nice and interesting people. Pretty satisfying day in all.
>> No. 430501 Anonymous
14th September 2019
Saturday 11:20 pm
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Mountain biking, earning money from my business, trying to understand why socialists can't 3x20 pressups in 5 minutes.
>> No. 430502 Anonymous
14th September 2019
Saturday 11:25 pm
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I haven't actually done anything, but I've been thinking about getting a private pilot's license.

I told someone in the office this and they said "it'll make your life insurance go up, mind" which is perhaps the saddest advice I've ever been issued.
>> No. 430503 Anonymous
15th September 2019
Sunday 12:00 am
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>>430498

There's only one way to drive the A64, and that's between 8pm and 5am. It's actually a lovely stretch of road if you get it at sundown on a summer night, when it's not full of geriatric campers or truckers who insist on overtaking other truckers.
>> No. 430505 Anonymous
15th September 2019
Sunday 12:17 pm
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Went pike fishing last night with a friend. Didn't catch anything though.

I am beginning to think the local fish here are having a laugh. You see them surfacing occasionally or even jumping a few inches in the air, but none of them will take your bait. But then when you throw a few clumps of bread dough in the water, the same dough that you put on your hook, suddenly it's a feeding frenzy.

There's indeed a theory that fish grow wise to anglers and that they learn to tell a free floating bit of bait from bait that's on a hook, and then just won't bite once they've been out of the water one time and released back. Negative reinforcement if you will. And in waters where catch and keep/kill is practiced, you pretty much remove the dumber fish from the gene pool by catching them, leaving behind only the smarter specimens. I think there's been research that different levels of intelligence actually exist among fish.
>> No. 430506 Anonymous
15th September 2019
Sunday 12:22 pm
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>>430505
Do you throw the clumps in at the same time as your hook? Or are they still smart enough to distinguish it from the safe bread during the so-called feeding frenzy?
>> No. 430507 Anonymous
15th September 2019
Sunday 1:17 pm
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>>430506

I should have said we went pike AND trout fishing, at least we tried. You cannot catch pike with bread dough, as they feed almost exclusively on small fish, so your weapon of choice is either a piece of fish as bait or a rubber or plastic crankbait or spinning lure.

But either way, the trouts seemed to readily gobble up the bread dough we threw in the water, but couldn't be arsed to bite the clump of dough on a hook barely five feet to the right.
>> No. 430508 Anonymous
15th September 2019
Sunday 3:44 pm
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>>430503
>when it's not full of geriatric campers or truckers who insist on overtaking other truckers

Cars in the other lane were being held up by someone on a mobility scooter. They ensured they were visible by wearing an orange bandana, it looked more like a tea cosy with holes cut in it, and having a large flag of the Seychelles on the back.

I've been in a second-hand bookshop today. They had a couple of novels by John Lanchester that are on my to buy list, but I opted against it because the covers were both in an absolutely terrible state. I can't work out if this makes me a bit of a snob or not.
>> No. 430509 Anonymous
15th September 2019
Sunday 4:25 pm
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>>430508
Nothing wrong in wanting to have a decent cover.
People die sometimes if they don't have one.
>> No. 430510 Anonymous
15th September 2019
Sunday 4:46 pm
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>>430509
Johnny Cash had a great cover of Hurt but he died anyway.
>> No. 430511 Anonymous
15th September 2019
Sunday 9:42 pm
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I watched episodes three and four of Peaky Blinders back to back the other day and thought "huh, that was kind of a dull ending, in fact nothing much happened this whole series", but now looking at the iPlayer I see it has a regular six episode run and I just managed to convince myself this series was shorter than all the others for no reason. I'm sure there's a lesson in there somewhere, but as we've already seen this evening I'm too stupid to know what it is. I can only hope this tale carries more import for someone less mentally withered than I and they benefit where I could only stare blankly like a fish.
>> No. 430513 Anonymous
15th September 2019
Sunday 9:54 pm
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Bought some Dylon Intense Black fabric dye last night and I am now trying it out. I've got three black collared shirts that have faded and I hope to restore their colour that way. Bit skint right now, so just buying new shirts isn't something I'd like to do at the moment. I'm really interested to see the results when the washing is done.
>> No. 430517 Anonymous
16th September 2019
Monday 1:16 am
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I have grown really fat over the past couple of years. I am around 5'6, but weigh 17 stones now. I can't find shirts that fit me without them being ridiculously oversized - with ridiculous sleeve and shirt lengths. Order a couple from M&S last week, and they reach my knees.

Why aren't there any shops that sell clothes for short and fat guys? Seems like a giant hole in the market.
>> No. 430520 Anonymous
16th September 2019
Monday 10:30 am
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>>430517

Those shops exist, though possibly not on every high street these days. The common term for this is "big and tall" and they cater to the big, the tall, and both.

From playground insults directed at me, I have gleaned that the website Jacamo is also for fat cunts.
>> No. 430521 Anonymous
16th September 2019
Monday 12:25 pm
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>>430520
Jacamo is for proper blokes.
>> No. 430617 Anonymous
21st September 2019
Saturday 4:09 pm
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What insults begin with the letter T? Someone in one of those Toyota Hilux style pickups shouted something at me as I drove past, he wasn't happy he had to wait for me even though I had right of way, but I can't work out what it was. It wasn't terse enough to be twat, but I can't think of any longer insults beginning with T that it could have been.
>> No. 430618 Anonymous
21st September 2019
Saturday 4:18 pm
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>>430617

Tosser? Tosspot?
>> No. 430619 Anonymous
21st September 2019
Saturday 4:46 pm
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>>430618
It could have been tosser. I'd completely forgotten that one.
>> No. 430620 Anonymous
21st September 2019
Saturday 4:50 pm
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>>430617
Twat, twunt, twit, Tory, turd burglar.
>> No. 430622 Anonymous
21st September 2019
Saturday 6:02 pm
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>>430620

Thicko, tit, tedious cunt...
>> No. 430624 Anonymous
21st September 2019
Saturday 6:58 pm
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>>430622
Trite.
>> No. 430627 Anonymous
21st September 2019
Saturday 7:29 pm
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>>430624

Triptaker.

Tallowcatch.


http://mentalfloss.com/article/61819/42-old-english-insults
>> No. 430635 Anonymous
22nd September 2019
Sunday 10:54 am
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Seeing how my parents and their siblings interact makes me very, very glad I'm an only child.
>> No. 430648 Anonymous
22nd September 2019
Sunday 7:29 pm
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Today I have tried Birds Eye's veggie burgers, which are apparently "so meaty, you'll be surprised they're not."

They taste fine, better than the beef burger I had earlier in the week, but the texture isn't right so you wouldn't mistake it for actual meat. They're made from a mixture of pea protein and 'pea mince' so they have a vague hint of those pea crisps. Due to the texture I don't think I'd get them again.
>> No. 430649 Anonymous
22nd September 2019
Sunday 7:40 pm
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>>430648
The seitan you can get from sainsburies is pretty good. It's not always much like the meat it's supposed to be but it fills the meat-shaped hole. Like if it was supposed to be ham, it wouldn't be like the ham you're used to but there's loads of kinds of ham, it's just like having a different sort of ham.
>> No. 430663 Anonymous
22nd September 2019
Sunday 8:30 pm
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>>430649


>> No. 430705 Anonymous
23rd September 2019
Monday 2:19 am
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Every time I think this shitting cold is shifting it morphs into another phase. 5 or 6 nights straight of fever dreams and massively interrupted sleep is the fucking worst bit.
>> No. 430706 Anonymous
23rd September 2019
Monday 3:09 am
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>>430705
Interrupted sleep is becoming no sleep. FUCK. I've just started a new job so calling in sick isn't really an option. Fuck shit cunt.
>> No. 430719 Anonymous
23rd September 2019
Monday 2:13 pm
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>>430705
That's some bad fucking cold mate. I've never had that much nights of fever dreams thankfully.
>> No. 430739 Anonymous
23rd September 2019
Monday 7:12 pm
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>>430719
It's grim. I always get odd dreams when I start a new job, but they've been turned up to 11 oddness by being mixed in with fever dreams. I've been through 3 bog rolls of tissue in the past 2 days and my nose feels like it's made of 200 grit.

It's weird, because it doesn't ever seem to get bad enough to confine me to bed, but it doesn't seem to be easing off, just morphing from sore throat, to stuffy, to queasy, back to sore through. Let this fucking end.
>> No. 430740 Anonymous
23rd September 2019
Monday 7:32 pm
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Grim as it is, I'm now cracking one out as often as I can manage just for that brief moment of clear breathing brought on by the sudden drop in blood pressure.
>> No. 430805 Anonymous
25th September 2019
Wednesday 10:59 am
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>>430705
How are you today?
>> No. 430898 Anonymous
28th September 2019
Saturday 9:36 am
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I've been at work since half 6 doing overtime. It's lovely to have the entire building to myself, meaning that I can get on with things like posting on here without any interruptions or distractions. It's kind of making me realise how much I dislike people.
>> No. 430916 Anonymous
28th September 2019
Saturday 11:44 pm
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>>430739
I've developed a cold as well, take a double dose of vit c and zinc and stop masturbating. If you have a bath, take one every day as hot as you can handle.

Codeine is a great cough suppressant, I recommend the effervescent 8mg/500mg paracetamol one you can get from Boots without a script.

If it doesn't clear up in 3 days, you might have the Flu. That can last weeks.
>> No. 430917 Anonymous
29th September 2019
Sunday 1:01 am
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>>430916
Not him but I've had the same cold that has been going around. I found it's one of those ones you can eat your way out of with stews and garlic pizza combined with a healthy amount of dossing - I acted as soon as the signs started so I'm alright now. Fuck sake, I'm hungry now.

>stop masturbating
>Codeine is a great cough suppressant

Why the fuck would you:
A. Knock something proven to boost your immune system by lowering stress
B. Suppress a cough which is how your lungs clean out

Horrible advice.
>> No. 430918 Anonymous
29th September 2019
Sunday 2:52 am
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>>430917

Codeine is fine for a tickly cough, but it's a bad idea for a chesty cough. No opinion on the wanking.
>> No. 430919 Anonymous
29th September 2019
Sunday 5:49 am
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I love my job and I'm objectively lucky to have it, but I really can't be arses with having to be outside in the rain at this time in the morning because of it.

I don't enjoy being sat in an office but I'd definitely take it up right now. I'd have a little heater under my desk, I'd be across from Sandra with the tits, it'd be so warm.
>> No. 430922 Anonymous
29th September 2019
Sunday 10:18 am
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>>430805
It's somewhat better, but still hasn't cleared up.
Thankfully the fever dreams and cold sweats have stopped and now it's just a blocked nose, brutal cough, and mild headache that doesn't want to shift, but the blockage isn't bad or anything.
>> No. 430923 Anonymous
29th September 2019
Sunday 4:42 pm
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Tonight I'm beginning a winter offensive on my stiff and prematurely mature body, proper Operation Little Saturn shit, encircle and annihilate. I've become tired of the cracking sounds all my different limbs have grown accustomed to making.
>> No. 430931 Anonymous
29th September 2019
Sunday 5:52 pm
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eBay are doing 10% off everything, so I just impulse-purchased an Oculus Quest. I now feel slightly silly about spending £360 on what is ostensibly the future of interactive media, but will doubtlessly prove to be little more than a shame-inducing masturbatory aid.
>> No. 430932 Anonymous
29th September 2019
Sunday 5:55 pm
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>>430931
You'll be wanting this
https://w0bm.com/b/1548718258.webm
>> No. 430934 Anonymous
29th September 2019
Sunday 6:27 pm
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>>430932

Whatever the fuck that is, I do not want it. I do not want it at all.
>> No. 430938 Anonymous
29th September 2019
Sunday 8:21 pm
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>>430934
Maybe you'd prefer the full 13 minute long, 720p, 1.7GB version?
https://drive.google.com/uc?id=1OEqZHAfdWQW8v14m2C_K9pC057fcxGNU&export=download
It's an "immersive experience".
>> No. 430939 Anonymous
29th September 2019
Sunday 9:08 pm
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>>430938
Maybe you could tell us what this is for those of us not into clicking random links on imageboards.
>> No. 430940 Anonymous
29th September 2019
Sunday 9:20 pm
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>>430939
>I'm so smart about internet I don't even know what a webm is
>> No. 430943 Anonymous
29th September 2019
Sunday 9:48 pm
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>>430940
I don't think he was asking about the file type, m7.
>> No. 430944 Anonymous
29th September 2019
Sunday 9:50 pm
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>>430943
Why would he be afraid to click if he knew what the filetype was? It's not going to bite him.
>> No. 430947 Anonymous
29th September 2019
Sunday 10:07 pm
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>>430944

Because we live in a country with exceptional surveillance capability and many laws governing what type of content it is illegal to watch on the internet.
>> No. 430948 Anonymous
29th September 2019
Sunday 10:09 pm
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>>430944
You must be new to this internet thing.
>> No. 430950 Anonymous
29th September 2019
Sunday 10:28 pm
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>>430947
It's not illegal if you genuinely didn't know what it was beforehand and could even argue that, it being posted on a British website, you were led to believe it wasn't such a thing.

Anyway it's nothing illegal, just weird.
>> No. 430951 Anonymous
29th September 2019
Sunday 10:34 pm
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Where would I get cheap PS3 games from? I'm assuming they're so old now that charity shops wouldn't even stock them. It's got to be the time of year when parents decide to clear out and donate a lot of their children's belongings now they've fucked off to uni.
>> No. 430953 Anonymous
29th September 2019
Sunday 10:45 pm
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>>430950

If someone in the civil service, government or police hates you enough you're going down for thumbnails. For a normal person it's still a harrowing experience to be avoided at all costs. Do you want to go to court and have everyone think you're a carpet-bagger even when you're let off because you clicked a dodgy link on the internet?
>> No. 430954 Anonymous
29th September 2019
Sunday 10:48 pm
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>>430951

My local charity shops still have loads of PS2 games, FWIW. Failing that, eBay or CeX.
>> No. 430955 Anonymous
29th September 2019
Sunday 10:54 pm
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>>430951
Assuming they're not still doing their reprint scam, you could do worse than CeX, and it's worth having a browse through charity shops and the like. It may be worth looking in at some of the cash shops and second-hand dealers, though they won't necessarily offer the best deal around.
>> No. 430956 Anonymous
29th September 2019
Sunday 10:57 pm
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>>430953
Obviously you need to learn to speak more posh and exercise some privilege.
>> No. 430957 Anonymous
29th September 2019
Sunday 11:01 pm
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>>430956

I would agree with you but then we would both be right.
>> No. 430961 Anonymous
29th September 2019
Sunday 11:11 pm
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>>430931

VR porn is definitely quite something, though, in the right mood you can really feel immersed. Add in a fleshlight and you'll never need real sex again.

It's a bit of a hassle to do on a phone strapped to your head, I think if my PC was a bit better I'd pay the price for wanking convenience too. You've made a good choice.
>> No. 430967 Anonymous
30th September 2019
Monday 2:19 am
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>>430961

No PC required with the Quest. It has the same resolution and motion tracking as the Rift, but it's entirely stand-alone. The future of wanknology has arrived.

>>430956

Either that or buy some shellsuits and a shitload of cigars. Now then, now then.
>> No. 430976 Anonymous
30th September 2019
Monday 4:24 pm
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>>430931

Wanking helmet first impressions:

The porn is a mixed bag. Some studios have absolutely nailed filming in VR, others seem to struggle with washed-out colours and weird distortion. There's still not quite[i] enough resolution in the headset to look properly sharp, but it's mostly acceptable with 4k+ content. You're vaguely aware of the limited field-of-view (especially if you're wearing glasses), but it doesn't feel like you're peering through a letterbox. With a good scene, there really is a big difference in immersion between 2d and VR, but the locked-down viewpoint slightly undermines the sense of reality. Luxury wanking, 7/10.

Video content is still a bit hit-and-miss, but the gaming side of things is tremendous. The illusion of presence is [i]utterly
convincing, to the point that it's quite disorienting when you take the headset off. There's still a relative paucity of content ready for Quest, but what is available is an absolute hoot. I don't mean to sound like a hypelord, but it really is a different type of thing to playing a game on a 2d screen. I had a quick blast on Apex Legends just as a point of comparison and it suddenly seemed very flat and dull and distant; I felt acutely aware of the fact that I was pressing buttons rather than reaching out and grabbing things with my hands. Most fun I've had in ages, 9/10.
>> No. 430977 Anonymous
30th September 2019
Monday 4:47 pm
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>>430976
Actual-cyber-shagging aside, how is VR with glasses? My eyes are really quite knackered without them now, but the lenses seem so close I don't know if it's even an issue for the nearsighted.

>I had a quick blast on Apex Legends just as a point of comparison and it suddenly seemed very flat and dull and distant
See, this is why I don't want to try it until I don't have to stop trying it. It's the same reason I'm afraid of hyper expensive headphones. Oh, I think I enjoy all my favourite music, but maybe I'm only half-enjoying it and I just don't know any better, in which case I'd rather not know any better.
>> No. 430978 Anonymous
30th September 2019
Monday 5:04 pm
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>>430977

>how is VR with glasses?

I had no problems, even with fairly large hipster frames and a fairly strong prescription. There's a spacer included in the box that moves the lenses slightly further back to make room for your glasses, at the expense of a little bit of field-of-view. If you're really keen, you can buy prescription lens inserts for about £50. You could probably chop the arms off an old pair of glasses and stick them in place with blu-tak or something.

>the lenses seem so close I don't know if it's even an issue for the nearsighted.

The effective focussing distance changes depending on what's in the VR scene, so you'll probably still need glasses. The lenses are close, but they're designed to make the screens behind them appear distant.

Also, apologies to all for buggering up the italics, I won't do it again.
>> No. 430987 Anonymous
1st October 2019
Tuesday 11:23 am
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>>430898
My most recent two shifts landed on Saturday and Sunday. Aye, it's all nice and quiet - if things go according to a plan.
One of directors has a billiards table in the office basement. I hooked up a laptop into the basement switch and set call forwarding to my mobile, and spent about half a day practising shots.
If only it was always like that.
>>430922
Do get well soon.
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5th October 2019
Saturday 11:19 am
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I've just been to my local charity shop and they had this. Funnily enough, I didn't buy it.
>> No. 431072 Anonymous
5th October 2019
Saturday 11:34 am
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>>430987
It's still not fully shifted, but just a residual sniffle and a cough, now.
>> No. 431073 Anonymous
5th October 2019
Saturday 12:37 pm
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>>431071
Is there any chance it's a satire along the lines of Four Lions?
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5th October 2019
Saturday 1:47 pm
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>>431073

Seems unlikely.
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5th October 2019
Saturday 1:55 pm
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>>431073
Judging by the town in which you'll find the charity shop, no.

Oh, well. They sell books five for a quid so I ended up with a decent haul.
>> No. 431077 Anonymous
5th October 2019
Saturday 2:52 pm
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>>431075
What is it with right wingers and imagining things to get upset about?

>>431076
I guess it doesn't matter if the operator's a racist if it's for charity. I guess.
>> No. 431078 Anonymous
5th October 2019
Saturday 4:13 pm
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>>431077

>What is it with right wingers and imagining things to get upset about?

Their prejudices don't hold water in the real world, so they have to invent ways that their lives as relatively well-off white people are being threatened to justify their anger against anyone who isn't a relatively well-off white person.
>> No. 431079 Anonymous
5th October 2019
Saturday 4:40 pm
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>>431078

If prejudices didn't hold water in the real world they wouldn't persist.
>> No. 431080 Anonymous
5th October 2019
Saturday 5:04 pm
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>>431079

I disagree, it's very possible to hold onto an inaccurate belief. People are subject to a huge number of biases.
>> No. 431081 Anonymous
5th October 2019
Saturday 5:09 pm
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>>431080

Very true. Believing that all right wingers are "relatively well-off white people", for example.
>> No. 431084 Anonymous
5th October 2019
Saturday 6:18 pm
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>>431081

I'm only talking about the ones that imagine things to get upset about, but I am a black jew so of course I've found a way to weasel out of my generalisation earlier.
>> No. 431085 Anonymous
5th October 2019
Saturday 7:01 pm
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>>431084

Stealing bikes on a global scale isn't a way to weasel out of it ladm8.
>> No. 431087 Anonymous
5th October 2019
Saturday 8:20 pm
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Well I'm a relatively well-off white person, and am right wingleaning.
>> No. 431089 Anonymous
5th October 2019
Saturday 8:35 pm
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>>431087

As a comfortably well off white man human person individual I must say that I find myself leaning to the left.
>> No. 431090 Anonymous
5th October 2019
Saturday 8:38 pm
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When I got my smartwatch I thought I'd be designing cool off the wall futuristic watchfaces, but all I've done is re-create designs older than I am.
>> No. 431091 Anonymous
5th October 2019
Saturday 10:49 pm
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>>431090
I think, after some hundreds of years, we've more or less nailed clocks.
>> No. 431092 Anonymous
5th October 2019
Saturday 11:18 pm
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I helped someone move today, and was given an old PC from circa 1998 which we found in a corner of one of the basement rooms. The owner let me have it, "because you're into computers, aren't you?"

So I had a look around it tonight, the metal frame inside the case is slightly rusty, but it still starts up. There are issues with the hard drive though, it doesn't detect it. I guess that's why it sat in the basement for so long.

It's got a 233 MHz AMD K6 CPU. Ah, those were the days. I've tried hooking up the hard drive to my PC via an adaptor kit, but it seems dead altogether. It's a 4 GB Maxtor drive, which was more or less alright for 1998.
>> No. 431093 Anonymous
5th October 2019
Saturday 11:31 pm
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>>431091
Even so, there are still plenty of variants on the standard analogue or digital face design; one of the weirdest things I've found about smartwatch face repos is that they are full of disgustingly tacky gaudy shit. Bad Rolex or Casio G knockoffs with low quality JPEG backgrounds, unreadable text, or just eerily similar to those weird 99p Chinese watches with a poster of Star Wars in them.

With applications like Watchmaker, you don't really need any programming experience at all to make a watchface, but if you are so inclined the scripting language is very powerful, and if that weren't enough you can build entire application-type watchfaces from scratch.

What should be a treasure trove of interesting, sleek, and cool designs that normal watches couldn't replicate even if they wanted to, is just full of shit. I do wonder why. It's what I use my smartwatch for - mimicking old TV continuity clocks, or the Swiss rail stop-and-go movement (yes, I know the Mondaine watch is available but it costs 5 times what my smartwatch cost and it can't check my messages).
>> No. 431094 Anonymous
6th October 2019
Sunday 12:00 am
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Default mass attendance on Sunday, I've started dosing on lsd before I go. Since moving to London on my own for work, found some Polish ladm8s to have pints with after mass. Will probably check out the new Joker movie afterwards. Anyone seen it? Looks okay.
>> No. 431099 Anonymous
6th October 2019
Sunday 9:02 am
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Feels like Autumn is here lads.
>> No. 431102 Anonymous
6th October 2019
Sunday 12:01 pm
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>>431099

Did feel like a bit of a shit summer. Bring in the global warming I day, fuck Greta.
>> No. 431175 Anonymous
9th October 2019
Wednesday 6:40 pm
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>>431094
It's a banger.
>> No. 431222 Anonymous
11th October 2019
Friday 10:35 am
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Can't believe that wasteman posted in the weekday thread on a Friday.

Think I just ate some ham that had turned. Pray for me, lads.
>> No. 431223 Anonymous
11th October 2019
Friday 10:48 am
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>>431222

If you're in an office job that lets you work from home on a Friday it's practically already the weekend.
>> No. 431224 Anonymous
11th October 2019
Friday 11:02 am
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>>431222

Just got some new keyswitches in the post, Kailh Box Royals. Needed something quiet for work, and apparently these are the sharpest tactiles you can get. Hard to judge before they're soldered to a board, but I'm not sure. They feel nice, and the bump is very tactile, but it comes right at the top of the switch, which is not what I'm used to. It almost feels like a light, tight, buckling spring, but not necessarily in a good way. Time and proper use will tell, they were cheap enough.
>> No. 431226 Anonymous
11th October 2019
Friday 1:45 pm
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I've just got an out of office message from someone saying they're away trekking Everest, with links to follow their journey on Instagram and to donate to their Just Giving page. Fuck that.
>> No. 431227 Anonymous
11th October 2019
Friday 2:32 pm
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>>431226

"Trekking" Everest? In what way, if not climbing it?
>> No. 431228 Anonymous
11th October 2019
Friday 3:16 pm
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I got my week-end fucked up royally.
The high-ups decided to send some people off to training that's ironically irrelevant to what we do and what we are responsible for. Pretty strong hint we are about to have more responsibilities piled up on us. Besides that, 30% of staff out means quite tight schedule for the remaining peons. To add more insult to that, two of them immediately buggered off far away so that they keep their sweet 4-5 days off whilst the rest endure the increased workload.
Point fucking taken.
>> No. 431230 Anonymous
11th October 2019
Friday 4:19 pm
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I accepted a job offer earlier this week, set to start Monday, and it has fallen through this afternoon for reasons beyond my or their control. Bit of a dampener on the weekend for sure.
>> No. 431232 Anonymous
11th October 2019
Friday 5:35 pm
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>>431227
I think it might have said trekking Everest base camp. Seems a long way to go just for that, though.
>> No. 431248 Anonymous
12th October 2019
Saturday 2:41 pm
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Feel like utter crap in mind, body and soul. Not even operating at "listen to a podcast in bed" levels today.
>> No. 431249 Anonymous
12th October 2019
Saturday 2:45 pm
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>>431248
I think the miserable weather is affecting everyone.
>> No. 431250 Anonymous
12th October 2019
Saturday 2:54 pm
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>>431249
I'm not sure this explains the past two years though.
>> No. 431251 Anonymous
12th October 2019
Saturday 2:55 pm
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>>431249
It's also probably the fact that we're fucked.
>> No. 431252 Anonymous
12th October 2019
Saturday 2:59 pm
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>>431248

I've felt this way for a while. At first it was just garden variety depression I've had my whole life. But the older I get the more I think it's just disillusionment with the world in general.

I don't enjoy a lot of things the way I used to. The longer I spend on the Internet exposed to its petty arguments and uninformed politics, the more I just think everyone is a goddamnit moron. And worst of all I feel like all this negativity ultimately comes from within me, not without.

Oh well.
>> No. 431253 Anonymous
12th October 2019
Saturday 3:09 pm
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>>431252
I think I need to find a new interest. The number of websites I visit is an ever decreasing circle and I seem to be doing it more out of habit than anything else; I feel like I've outgrown a lot of them. Computer games and TV seem to have also lost a lot of their enjoyment and fulfilment.

I reckon I need to try something new to get out of this rut.
>> No. 431273 Anonymous
12th October 2019
Saturday 9:35 pm
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They're demolishing a few of the cooling towers at Ferrybridge in the morning, might pop over and watch it.
>> No. 431282 Anonymous
12th October 2019
Saturday 10:13 pm
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>>431273
They'd be better off knocking down those houses if they want to improve the look of the area.
>> No. 431287 Anonymous
12th October 2019
Saturday 10:31 pm
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>>431282
I've been looking at places to park and Ferrybridge, Knottingley, Cas and Ponte are all rough as fuck.
>> No. 431290 Anonymous
12th October 2019
Saturday 10:37 pm
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Oh, wow, pancakes are far nicer when you don't overcook them into tiny little flour targe.

>>431282
Hey, come now, who needs light, space, comfort or charm? It's got four bedrooms each large enough for ironing board sized bed.
>> No. 431301 Anonymous
13th October 2019
Sunday 12:39 am
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Just turned up at my local and came between 3 skinheads having a fight. One was on the floor bleeding from the head and I honestly believe if I wasn't there they would have kicked him unconscious. Everyone else just stared.

Apparently the guy on the floor was a nazi. I honestly have no idea what he said to provoke quite the response though. He eventually ran off and then someone in the crowd jeered at him.
No one around seems to care about the risk I took to keep the peace. Infact the 2 who were kicking the shit out of him immediately got chummy with security after and things returned to normal shortly after. I'm a bit shell shocked, the idea crossed my mind they might get hyped up and turn on me. Weird start to a night when all I really want is an easy lay. Will probably move on once I finish my drink.
>> No. 431302 Anonymous
13th October 2019
Sunday 1:02 am
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>>431301
If they were all skinheads then shouldn't they all share the same nazi proclivities? Or were the other two gay skins/anti-fascist skins/some other ideology that likes the image?
>> No. 431303 Anonymous
13th October 2019
Sunday 1:29 am
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>>431301

I'm surprised you didn't get stuck in m7. If I was there I'd ask every black man with dreads do you smoke ganj.
>> No. 431304 Anonymous
13th October 2019
Sunday 1:32 am
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>>431302

Didn/t know how to fight

Posted on Britfa
>> No. 431315 Anonymous
13th October 2019
Sunday 11:23 am
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>>431302
Skinheads have never been exclusively fascist.
>> No. 431319 Anonymous
13th October 2019
Sunday 11:49 am
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Watched the towers come down. It was like someone scrunching a paper cup. Thought it would have been louder. Piss wet through.
>> No. 431325 Anonymous
13th October 2019
Sunday 12:20 pm
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>>431315

Weirdly enough, growing up in the 90s I always associated skinheads more with punk. Probably totally misguided, but there we are.
>> No. 431332 Anonymous
13th October 2019
Sunday 1:23 pm
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>>431319
I found when I watched similar, they fall a lot faster than you're used to - a lifetime of watching buildings come down on the telly in slow-mo has ruined us.
>> No. 431333 Anonymous
13th October 2019
Sunday 2:18 pm
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>>431252
At the very least you witnessed that kind of idiocy on the Net. I've seen it irl.
It doesn't really phase me though. Now when someone almost forces me into their petty argument regarding something I either don't care or not informed enough to make an opinion and won't take no for an answer, is wholly another matter.
>>431253
I somewhat tend to think that your bullshit filtering system tends to get better as you age. The problem here is keeping it sharp and not letting become way too conservative.
>> No. 431340 Anonymous
14th October 2019
Monday 12:21 am
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>>431248

> "Feel like utter crap in mind, body and soul. Not even operating at "listen to a podcast in bed" levels today."

Jesus, this could be me. I've survived the last few days through lying in bed and staring, whenever I'm awake, one-eyed at Netflix. Now I'm basically at my wit's end. What was that puerile twitter meme I saw a few months back? "Are we just supposed to drink coffee and listen to podcasts and then die? I'm BORED"? Something like that. As sad as it is, that's basically how I'm feeling. Back to having this great big hole in the middle of my soul and nothing to fill it with. The big black fucking hole that I've spent most of my life shovelling small nations' GDPs worth of drugs and alcohol into. Although these days I'm not supposed to do that any more, instead I'm supposed to do something else, even if I'm buggered as to what exactly is.

What I need to do is sort my head out, get my brain back into my old hobbies, finally flush the mental bitch who can't make up her mind but won't let me move on out of my system, stop hanging out with "good enough for a saturday night, not good enough for a girlfriend" lasses I've been using to kill the pain, and get back out there and back on the path to finding someone I'm actually interested in being with.

Honestly life is so difficult I don't know why I bothered getting clean in the first place.

Sage.
>> No. 431341 Anonymous
14th October 2019
Monday 10:21 am
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>>431340
You two had better get out of bed and do something else the winter is going to kill you. Nobody feels better during the long nights.
>> No. 431342 Anonymous
14th October 2019
Monday 11:11 am
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I had a very long dream this morning, but the most memorable moment of it was when I was a bit rude to Cillian Murphy about Peaky Blinders to which he bluntly and understandably told me "get your pen then". "Good advice" I thought on waking up.

Think he said pen, missed a trick otherwise.
>> No. 431471 Anonymous
18th October 2019
Friday 5:22 pm
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Expecting six parcels to be delivered today. Came home from work to find three outside my front door. Nice one, FedEx.
>> No. 431472 Anonymous
18th October 2019
Friday 5:52 pm
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>>431471
Extra points if on the tracking it said "Left safe".
>> No. 431495 Anonymous
19th October 2019
Saturday 12:25 pm
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There's a couple of women walking outside with prams, taking pictures every time there's a car parked on the pavement and they can't fit through. No doubt they're going to post them on a local Facebook group.
>> No. 431496 Anonymous
19th October 2019
Saturday 12:28 pm
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>>431495

You mean, crossing the road and getting between the cars?
>> No. 431540 Anonymous
19th October 2019
Saturday 11:34 pm
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I'd ask what everyone did with their Saturday, but it looks as thought you were all indoors and arguing on .gs.
>> No. 431541 Anonymous
19th October 2019
Saturday 11:38 pm
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>>431540

Still indoors, still arguing on .gs, wanna fight about it?
>> No. 431547 Anonymous
20th October 2019
Sunday 1:51 am
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>>431540

White wine, clonazepam, and Cialis. Heading out in a bit to see a lass who I'm either going to fuck to death or vomit on and pass out on top of.

I'm happy either way.
>> No. 431548 Anonymous
20th October 2019
Sunday 1:54 am
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>>431495

This reminds me of when I lived in Amsterdam and people actually parked on the fucking pavement and you had to walk into the street to get around their fucking cars.

And yes, I did take pictures of the cunts and made a massive blog titled something like "why Amsterdam is a shithole full of cunts and you should never live here".

Sage for ten year old memories.

Also doesn't that mean it was the britfa's 10 year anniversary this year?

Where are the party hats you lazy mod fucks c'mon.
>> No. 431558 Anonymous
20th October 2019
Sunday 11:06 am
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>>431548

There isn't a party hat button.
>> No. 431559 Anonymous
20th October 2019
Sunday 12:05 pm
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>>431548
>Also doesn't that mean it was the britfa's 10 year anniversary this year?

Isn't .gs from 2008?
>> No. 431563 Anonymous
20th October 2019
Sunday 4:10 pm
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>>431540

I went to an overpriced arcade (because arcades are a retro novelty now rather than just a thing that exists), then went to an overpriced Japanese chain restaurant. Then sat in a car park watching people come out of Lidl and Dominos until nearly midnight.

It was quite a nice change of pace from sitting inside arguing on britfa all day, actually.

>>431495

There was a thing on the radio a bit ago about pavement parking, and how we've got to do something about it because it's restrictive for disabled access and so on.

Call me cynical but I shall be entirely unsurprised when what we do about it is slapping people with massive fines, instead of actually providing people somewhere to fucking park.
>> No. 431573 Anonymous
20th October 2019
Sunday 5:56 pm
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>>431563 somewhere to fucking park.
I think there's an assumption that dare not be spoken, that private car ownership is a problem that will go away on its own, if we just ignore it a while longer.
>> No. 431575 Anonymous
20th October 2019
Sunday 6:43 pm
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>>431573
This brings me to one of my pet annoyances about the way we go about achieving change, particularly on the part of government.

Example: You want to reduce car usage and ownership.

You could make car ownership unbearable by way of taxation, duties and traffic control measures, in which case you get some people who have reluctantly switched to public transport and are resentful of it, and others who still own and use their cars and are resentful of it.

Alternatively, you could actively make public transport more desirable, and people will switch to it willingly.

I haven't owned a car in five years because I have a bus stop right outside my flat with four buses an hour into the city centre, and a train station a short walk away with four trains per hour. Both of these services are also better and more reliable now than then. Unfortunately, where my family live public transport has been cut to the bone, and it's no longer viable for me to visit them without hiring a car.
>> No. 431576 Anonymous
20th October 2019
Sunday 8:02 pm
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The problem is that cars are too fucking big. I'd say that almost everyone I work with over the age of 40 drives a 4x4. A few of them have those ridiculously large Volvo's that are bigger than the actual parking spaces. If everyone had to drive smaller cars then it wouldn't be as much of an issue.
>> No. 431583 Anonymous
20th October 2019
Sunday 9:41 pm
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>>431576

> I'd say that almost everyone I work with over the age of 40 drives a 4x4.

Over-40s are a waste of space at the best of times, with or without a 4x4.
>> No. 431608 Anonymous
21st October 2019
Monday 6:03 pm
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Don't get me wrong, I hate bored mums having a moan on Facebook, but there's no reason for people in urban/suburban areas to drive 4x4s.

It would definitely be my 'if you were an autocratic monarch what would you ban?' answer.

My parents, in-laws, people I respect at work all drive big fuck off 4x4s for absolutely no reason. There's no terrain they can't cover in a Smart Car if needed. I don't know why it irks me so much either, it just epitomises flashy keeping up with the joneses type thinking and spending for the sake of spending.
>> No. 431609 Anonymous
21st October 2019
Monday 6:07 pm
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>>431608
Apparently they give you a very good vantage point at junctions.
>> No. 431611 Anonymous
21st October 2019
Monday 6:13 pm
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>>431608

I think a lot of people are just shit drivers and feel safer in their massive tractors, as well as the obvious status marketing bollocks. People like to show off that they've "made it" in life and big pointless cars are part of that. Extravagance.

Regardless, though, it doesn't make much difference if you have a Land Rover or a Smart Car, if you live on a street with no parking spaces. No matter how small your car is it's still going to end up in the way. Many of our urban areas are stuck with a layout that was just about suitable for horses and carts, and yet shit public transport options. We've simply not invested in our infrastructure enough, pure and simple.

Let's look somewhere like Leeds. Second largest financial centre in the country, booming media hub, a picture of aspiration for non-London cities to boast impressive skyscrapers and diverse culture... Largest city in Europe without a rapid mass transit network. There are genuinely several streets that are still cobbled. It's taken nearly ten years to build a pissing bike lane through the town centre since that one time the Tour came through.
>> No. 431619 Anonymous
21st October 2019
Monday 7:48 pm
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>Many of our urban areas are stuck with a layout that was just about suitable for horses and carts, and yet shit public transport options. We've simply not invested in our infrastructure enough, pure and simple.

It's true that most city street patterns predate the age of the car. Which is a problem especially in urban areas that were once built up as working-class neighbourhoods, especially in the 1800s to early 1900s, a lot of them wall-to-wall terraced housing. Nowadays, that's a problem because every git living there, with a daytime job of any random description, can afford some sort of car, and so you've got them crowding up narrow streets in densely populated areas.

I used to live in a flat right in the middle of Manchester, and it was even worse. There was really not much of a point buying a car in the first place, because you'd spend over half an hour circling the area looking for a parking space every evening when you got home from work.
>> No. 431621 Anonymous
21st October 2019
Monday 8:01 pm
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>>431619
Must we turn our cities into copies of Milton Keynes though? If anything if we made our roads bigger people would end up buying bigger cars.
>> No. 431623 Anonymous
21st October 2019
Monday 8:21 pm
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>>431621

>If anything if we made our roads bigger people would end up buying bigger cars.

Not necessarily. If you make owning ludicrously big cars noticeably more expensive, then building bigger roads will not be seen as an incentive to buy bigger cars.

By and large, it's why European cars have nearly always been smaller than their American counterparts. Having to pay three times the price for petrol compared to stateside has always led a very large majority to avoid thirsty gas guzzlers.

The problem is that fuel economy nowadays has drastically improved. With most 4x4s, it's still not really great, but the running costs are in a sort of range where a lot of people are able to afford it.

I think Italy put a hefty road tax on cars that had more than two litres of engine displacement for a long time, which is one reason why Italian cars have always been quite small. At least bread-and-butter cars like your average Fiat.
>> No. 431624 Anonymous
21st October 2019
Monday 8:29 pm
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Is driving a 4x4 that was built in 1987 fine? I assume that this is better than buying a car on PCP every few years if you're counting the building of the car as pollution etc.
>> No. 431626 Anonymous
21st October 2019
Monday 8:50 pm
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>if you're counting the building of the car as pollution etc.

I drive a 1998 BMW 528i. People occasionally ask me why I hold on to my old banger, but it's in near-perfect condition, I got it from an OAP a few years ago who'd put less than 30K miles on it since new, and I really see no reason to get a new car, for the reason you mentioned, and also because in all honesty, I'm not sure what exactly new cars offer that I don't have at all with my 21-year-old fully-specced bimmer. I've got heated leather seats, a glass sunroof, HID headlamps, climate control, factory sound system, the works. The only thing that's a bit outdated is the factory BMW satnav.
>> No. 431629 Anonymous
21st October 2019
Monday 9:18 pm
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>>431626

Most of my colleagues have new cars every few years, and despite the obvious environmental concerns, I just don't get it. I suppose I'm a bit of a car bore and will always favour an interesting car or particularly well built engine over the latest touch screen media centre bells and whistles you get in new cars, but it just seems so boring to go the way they go. Like you say, you can get an incredible amount of car for almost no money if you're willing to shop around for older models.

I have a Mini Cooper S from 2005, it's arguably the best iteration of the BMW mini line, being a well balanced, supercharged little hot hatch, with every possible option ticked on it, especially when you factor in than I won it on eBay for a grand. 100k miles isn't really that much for a modern car, particularly not one that's been properly serviced, and people don't tend to neglect the services on a car they bought brand new and fully specced out, and it's easy enough to spot when they do.

I admittedly have an advantage in that I'm capable and willing to work on the car myself, though I've had it for a year now and all I've really had to do is replace ageing seals and bushings and bolts.

I don't have one at the moment, but I dip in and out of Land Rover ownership, I've ran some sort of old Defender alongside a more sensible car for most of my working life, though I do find it hard to justify one as a daily driver these days, even though my commute is a mere 10 miles. I've never just used a 4x4 on the road though, I use them for their intended applications.

Anyway, people have always looked at me a bit strange for buying cars that mostly cost less than a grand and a half, when I could easily buy a new, top spec exec mobile if I wanted to. But I really don't want to. I've never owned a dull car, and don't intend to start now, and the sort of new car I'd want to buy are ludicrously expensive, creeping into supercar territory. I do have a "brand new GT-R" fund that I started a while back, but the bigger that account gets, the less I want to drop it all on a car, even if a new, custom specced GT-R is my absolute dream car. I just don't think I'd have any more fun in the long run than, say, putting a Type R engine in an MX-5 or something. But I digress.
>> No. 431632 Anonymous
21st October 2019
Monday 9:30 pm
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>>431629
I sympathise with this viewpoint a lot.

I've got a friend buying a new Toureg, and he's really impressed the interior lighting all being RGB so you can be lit up whatever colour you want. And I'm just.... whhhhhy?

When I needed a new car last year I ended up getting a Fabia estate, because it was boring and practical. A bit of me really wants something Japanese and fun like an MX-5, and I also sort of regret not buying a shitty old Volvo estate for some reason.
>> No. 431633 Anonymous
21st October 2019
Monday 9:40 pm
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>>431629

I do most of my own repairs too, except what I prefer not to work on myself is intricate engine parts that affect the valve timing or similar things. Like a timing belt or chain. It's very easy to total your engine that way if you don't know 100% what you're doing, and it's especially difficult to find an inline-6 BMW engine from that model year in good nick, as most people have put well over 100K miles on them before they get to the breaker's. The ones that have survived the 20-plus years are now being run into the ground by people who think the £6K they spend on their E39 to buy it is all the money they will ever have to sink into it. Or by boy racers whose budget allows for something a good bit more fancy than a Renault Clio. But I digress.

It's all a matter of your own expectations when you buy a car. If you have to keep up with your neighbours, then by all means get as brand new Merc on PCP every three years. But while it's probably nice to always have a car with the latest technology, I have to say I just don't get it. I've always bought older cars in good nick, and friends have often commented that I apparently "had an eye for that kind of thing", and it got them wondering why they just spent five times as much on a car that didn't nearly have as many options as my old but still good E39 or the cars that I had before it.
>> No. 431634 Anonymous
21st October 2019
Monday 10:00 pm
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>>431632

We have the new Touregs at work too, and they're nice enough to drive and all that, and the luxury of bluetooth, air con, and cruise control are all welcome while driving at 15mph around an airfield but I just couldn't ever see myself living with one, personally. It's just a big bland car. Even if I needed a big bland car for kids etc, I'd probably still end up with a weird old Japanese MPV or an Octavia VRS estate or an ex copper Volvo T5, that sort of thing. I just can't see why anyone would want to spend, what, fifty grand on that? And maybe it's just because I live on the internet, but RGB lighting is so outdated and tacky, innit. It's warm white or nothing.
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21st October 2019
Monday 10:34 pm
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>>431634

>It's warm white or nothing.

Which festoon bulbs delivered for over 50 years at 20p a piece, before we got all fancy electronicky.

I've tried those newfangled LED slot-in replacements, but the ones I had emitted kind of a cold light reminiscient of flurescent tubes, despite being sold as "neutral white". I've now swapped the old festoons back in because it just looks nicer.
>> No. 431636 Anonymous
21st October 2019
Monday 10:36 pm
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>>431621

If roads were made bigger the priority should really be on improving public transit and cycle infrastructure. Cycling makes so much sense in cities and nowhere's really had the guts to push it on a proper scale in the UK.

I've just been thinking too why we couldn't expand the concept of park and ride to long term car storage for folks that don't necessarily need a car at their home all the time, but might need to own one otherwise. I guess rental works too. I like to travel around the country to outdoor spots with poor accessibility but I fucking hate city driving unless I really specifically need to move something large. Shopping is easy enough to carry as I'm single, most times when I'm going out I like to be able to have a pint guilt free - cars are fucking wank in cities. But I'd like to keep up my outdoor pursuits because it cheers me up.
>> No. 431644 Anonymous
22nd October 2019
Tuesday 8:01 am
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>>431619
Leeds is a bigger financial centre than Manchester...?
>> No. 431645 Anonymous
22nd October 2019
Tuesday 8:17 am
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>>431644

Yes.
>> No. 431646 Anonymous
22nd October 2019
Tuesday 8:32 am
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>>431611

Leeds, when I lived there, at least had an exceptional bus service. It basically cost a quid to go anywhere with an LS postcode, and the buses themselves were modern and came regularly. They even ran through the night. And compared to other cities I've worked in, cycling to work in the city centre was an absolute joy, because there either weren't many cars in your way, or at peak times, they were all travelling significantly slower than you. It was definitely faster to cycle from Hyde Park to the centre than it was to drive during rush hour, absolutely no doubt about that. And whenever I needed a car during those days, I'd use a car club, there were a couple of them.

When I got a job in Ilkley I needed a car, but only because I was working odd hours and trains and buses stopped after I had finished, otherwise I'd still have cycled to the train and took that, since at Leeds station they had that very modern secure bike storage facility.

When I moved back up to Newcastle, the difference was stark. Newcastle city centre has a lot more road than it needs, a lot of one way systems snaking around, and frankly almost no cycling infrastructure, and the satellite towns are a lot further out than most other cities, so the common population areas are all a good 20 to 30 minutes drive away, meaning many people couldn't or wouldn't cycle that distance anyway.

I don't really know where I'm going with this, other than that I miss cycling home from Leeds, half cut after a long shift.
>> No. 431654 Anonymous
22nd October 2019
Tuesday 5:38 pm
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>>431646

The buses are alright outside of rush hour, there are plenty of them as long as you live near one of the big routes. But it must have been a long time ago if they were only a quid, and the main trouble is they still use the same roads as the rest of the rush hour traffic, so a journey that should take fifteen minutes frequently takes upwards of half an hour. If you live in a satellite town like Morley, Wakey or Garforth etc you've basically had it.

The real issue is that Leeds is only just over the size threshold where you can't comfortably just walk from one side to the other as part of your commute. There's lots of places you could work in Leeds that you'd have to get a bus or train in to the central station (the train station is so busy on a morning you sometimes can't get on the escalators) and then get another bus to your place of work. In the middle of the rush hour cluster fuck.

I'm considering leaving my job because it looks like we'll be moving to a new site around St James' hospital. Even though it's only around a mile from the centre of town, it couldn't possibly be more of a ball-ache to commute.
>> No. 431655 Anonymous
22nd October 2019
Tuesday 6:15 pm
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>the train station is so busy on a morning you sometimes can't get on the escalators

Leeds is the only train station where I've regularly seen passengers almost coming to blows because the people who want to get on the train won't wait for the people who want to leave the train to get off.
>> No. 431681 Anonymous
23rd October 2019
Wednesday 4:06 pm
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>>431540
Bugger-all. I had a tight working schedule and only a few days off, Saturday being one of those.
>>431609
This, as well as lots of space inside.
>>431626
I'm quite reluctant to call a fully-specced 528i an old banger, even if it's 20 years old. It's not a bloody smart phone.
> and friends have often commented that I apparently "had an eye for that kind of thing", and it got them wondering why they just spent five times as much on a car that didn't nearly have as many options as my old but still good E39 or the cars that I had before it.
Right.
>>431634
Someone at work bought a VW Tiguan. Folks from my department were drooling over it for quite a while. I just don't see the appeal, as you've put it, it's a big bland car.
>> No. 431701 Anonymous
23rd October 2019
Wednesday 10:43 pm
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>>431655
Leeds is the only place I have visited in the entire world, where hookers put their cards under your hotel room door.
>> No. 431703 Anonymous
24th October 2019
Thursday 12:59 am
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>>431701

It truly is God's own country is Yorkshire.

They also have an area in Holbeck where it's legal to punt for prossies, and there's a well known brothel (Winstons) that seems to me mostly tolerated by the law, apart from the occasional drug raid every decade or so.
>> No. 431707 Anonymous
24th October 2019
Thursday 10:22 am
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>>431703
I'm relatively sure there's no law against this anywhere.
>> No. 431731 Anonymous
25th October 2019
Friday 11:36 am
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My boardband went down for a few hours yesterday and now only operates at about 150 kbs. I really can't be arsed with this.

Woo! Weekend time!
>> No. 431737 Anonymous
26th October 2019
Saturday 1:28 am
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>>431731

>at about 150 kbs

There was a time when that would have been considered lightning fast.
>> No. 431738 Anonymous
26th October 2019
Saturday 9:59 am
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>>431737 There's still a time when Openreach offer that as an 'up to' speed.
Yay for 4g, I guess.
>> No. 431739 Anonymous
26th October 2019
Saturday 1:06 pm
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>>431737
There are still places where that'll be considered 'quite fast', with 'quite' only because we got spoilt with 100-200-300-1000 Mbit/s over the optical fibre line.
I'm slightly unsure if the other lad meant kilobits or kilobytes.
>> No. 431746 Anonymous
26th October 2019
Saturday 4:24 pm
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>>431737
I know, but I wanted to watch Enemy in a higher res than 240p.

>>431739
It was only a few years ago that I was making do with that kind of speed on the regular myself. I'll be frank and confess I'm not sure of the difference in bytes or bits.
>> No. 431747 Anonymous
26th October 2019
Saturday 5:01 pm
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My youtube app on my phone keeps suggesting clips about autism to me. I have no idea how I could have caused that. I don't remember ever actively searching for videos on the topic.
>> No. 431748 Anonymous
26th October 2019
Saturday 5:34 pm
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Oh sweet summer child.
If you type something anywhere, read pages containing that word or more scarily, talk about it in real life, their algorithms will document it.
It's a really shit the bed moment when you chat with someone in the street about a topic or person you had no previous interest in, only to find it in your suggestion feed.
>> No. 431749 Anonymous
26th October 2019
Saturday 6:23 pm
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>>431748

>It's a really shit the bed moment when you chat with someone in the street about a topic or person you had no previous interest in, only to find it in your suggestion feed.

That's not even a myth.

https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/wjbzzy/your-phone-is-listening-and-its-not-paranoia


tl;dr: Evil Facebook and that Jewberg lad, at it again
>> No. 431750 Anonymous
26th October 2019
Saturday 6:46 pm
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>>431749

It's mostly a myth; turning on your microphone and processing the data is very energy-intensive, so your phone battery would only last a couple of hours if Facebook was actually listening to your conversations. People think that their phone is listening to them partly due to coincidence (you notice an ad for sheds because you were just having a conversation about sheds) and partly because the targeting algorithms actually work in terms of guessing what you might want to buy. Facebook know an awful lot about your life, they know a lot about two billion other people and you're just not that unique.
>> No. 431755 Anonymous
26th October 2019
Saturday 9:43 pm
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>>431750

>Facebook know an awful lot about your life, they know a lot about two billion other people and you're just not that unique.


I'm just wary of Big Data and don't trust anybody who keeps comprehensive databases of people's lives. Which is one reason why I boycotted social media like Facebook, twitter or Instagram from day one. Until very recently, I wouldn't even really use the youtube account that youtube forced me into with its phone app. I also don't use third-party e-mail services like gmail. Instead, I was lucky enough to reserve our family name as a .net domain a long time ago, and all our family's e-mail goes via that, without someone scanning my e-mails for marketable content.
>> No. 431756 Anonymous
26th October 2019
Saturday 9:49 pm
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>>431755
>and all our family's e-mail goes via that, without someone scanning my e-mails for marketable content
Are you running your own mail server or do you just have a couple of mailboxes run by your host?
>> No. 431757 Anonymous
26th October 2019
Saturday 9:54 pm
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>>431756

The host runs the mailboxes, but I still prefer that over gmail.
>> No. 431760 Anonymous
26th October 2019
Saturday 11:35 pm
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I saw a Christmas tree in a pub earlier. A Christmas tree.
>> No. 431761 Anonymous
27th October 2019
Sunday 12:05 am
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>>431760
Are you sure it wasn't a Halloween tree?
>> No. 431762 Anonymous
27th October 2019
Sunday 7:16 am
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Yesterday I was in a car driven by my Dad for the first time in I don't know how many years. It was noticeable how doddery he has gotten. He was doing a constant 62mph on the motorway and decided to stay behind a lorry because the junction we needed was four miles away and he didn't want to be stuck next to it when he needed to turn off. He was also constantly asking which lane he needed to be and which direction to take on roads he is familiar with. He's only late sixties.

Also, why is axe throwing suddenly so popular?
>> No. 431767 Anonymous
27th October 2019
Sunday 11:00 am
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Just set my wristwatch back to winter time. My Swatch Irony was off by just seven seconds since I last set it three or four months ago, so that's testament to the build quality of this £100 watch.

I've felt for years that analog or quartz wristwatches are a dying piece of kit since smartphones and smart watches have become the norm, so I hold on to mine. I will not be a convert.
>> No. 431768 Anonymous
27th October 2019
Sunday 11:22 am
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>>431767
I am in the middle of going around the house, doing the rounds. I've managed the oven and the central heating, but I'm not sure about everything else. At least the alarm clock by my bed is back on the right time now.
>> No. 431769 Anonymous
27th October 2019
Sunday 11:22 am
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>>431767
Did it change today? That'll mean the clock on my oven is right again, will have to remember that.
>> No. 431771 Anonymous
27th October 2019
Sunday 11:41 am
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I've been seeing someone for a few months now and we're both aware that this is just a bit of fun that can't go anywhere. Of course this was always foolish and last night this properly crossed into something else thanks to all the bed-days and unguarded talks. I feel like this situation only grows more common as you get older.

To make myself a hypocrite to the below: Is there any couples shit you can do on Christmas? She's a furriner and my parents could probably do without me this year.

>>431760
People at work have already started with the Christmas committees. I dread to think what they're going to plan with such a long lead up.
>> No. 431773 Anonymous
27th October 2019
Sunday 12:05 pm
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>>431771

>People at work have already started with the Christmas committees.

I will not miss that part of being an office slave.

If my estate business really picks up, I could envision renting office space for it and hiring someone, but things like Christmas committees remind me how lucky I am that I get to be self employed from now on. I've always hated company Christmas parties, even when I was working somewhere that I generally enjoyed.
>> No. 431774 Anonymous
27th October 2019
Sunday 2:39 pm
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>>431771
That sounds like a dangerous, yet familiar situation lad. Looking forward to the inevitable wedding next year.
>> No. 431775 Anonymous
27th October 2019
Sunday 2:43 pm
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Not sure about Simon Brodkin's latest stunt.
>> No. 431776 Anonymous
27th October 2019
Sunday 3:14 pm
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>>431757
Not your server, not your mail.
>> No. 431777 Anonymous
27th October 2019
Sunday 4:01 pm
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>>431773
>I've always hated company Christmas parties

The North Pole Bonkers Bingo with performances from 911 and S Club. Sorted.

https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/rewind-your-christmas-at-The North Pole-wakefield-feat-bonkers-bingo-tickets-61942362273
>> No. 431778 Anonymous
27th October 2019
Sunday 6:44 pm
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>>431777
Who and who, now?
>> No. 431779 Anonymous
27th October 2019
Sunday 8:25 pm
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>>431778
There ain't no party like an S Club 3 party.
>> No. 431780 Anonymous
27th October 2019
Sunday 8:51 pm
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>>431776

There's always ProtonMail.
>> No. 431781 Anonymous
27th October 2019
Sunday 8:55 pm
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>>431779
Imagine reaching for the stars and only finding these three.
>> No. 431782 Anonymous
27th October 2019
Sunday 8:59 pm
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>>431780
And before that there was Lavabit.
>> No. 431783 Anonymous
27th October 2019
Sunday 11:13 pm
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>>431781

Could be worse.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10102228/tulisa-pay-landlord-trash-home-enfield/

She looks fucking horrible these days
>> No. 431784 Anonymous
28th October 2019
Monday 12:43 am
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>>431783
>The pitta bakery tycoon sued Tulisa for the costs of repairing damage done

Surely he's got enough dough already.
>> No. 431785 Anonymous
28th October 2019
Monday 7:41 am
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>>431783
Could be worse. You could be Morrissey.

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2019/oct/27/morrissey-performs-in-la-wearing-fuck-the-guardian-t-shirt
>> No. 431787 Anonymous
28th October 2019
Monday 9:11 am
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>>431785
Phwoar, look at the tits on that.
>> No. 431789 Anonymous
28th October 2019
Monday 10:17 am
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>>431785
>> No. 431790 Anonymous
28th October 2019
Monday 10:21 am
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>>431785

>Writing on his personal website in May, Morrissey claimed he was the victim of an “inexhaustible hate campaign” by the Guardian, imploring his supporters: “Please do not buy this wretched hate-paper, whose every 2019 utterance echoes the late Mary Whitehouse.”


He's going proper nutters in his old age now.
>> No. 431815 Anonymous
29th October 2019
Tuesday 1:53 pm
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>>431746
One byte is eight bits.
>>431750
> and processing the data is very energy-intensive
It's not like it's being processed on device. It's got to listen and send the bits back to the HQ.
Polite sage since I can't be arsed to tap the traffic from a test environment.
>>431755
Can you make do with something like NewPipe or YT Vanced?
>>431767
I have a shite Chinese alarm clock I keep on the nightstand. Its precision is remarkable for something that cost about a fiver many moons ago. I can't help but notice each time I set it to winter time or summer time.
>> No. 431823 Anonymous
29th October 2019
Tuesday 4:57 pm
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>>431815

>It's not like it's being processed on device. It's got to listen and send the bits back to the HQ.

At a bare minimum, you need to cache the audio and compress it. Uploading large amounts of audio data over 4G would have a major impact on power consumption (and eat up your data allowance), while storing it to upload later over Wifi would consume a noticeable amount of storage and potentially cause congestion on slower networks.

The big killer is really power state management on the SoC. There's a separate coprocessor for the microphone, but it's only powerful enough to recognise a wakeword like "OK Google" or "Hey Siri", buffer a few hundred milliseconds of audio and wake the main SoC. To record audio you need to keep at least one CPU core awake, which also means keeping that core cluster and the IO system awake, which results in a roughly eightfold increase in idle power consumption versus a true sleep state on most SoCs.

Facebook does phone home to an alarming extent, but it's mostly stuff that can be gathered, bundled and transmitted in a matter of milliseconds during the routine wake-sleep cycle of the phone - location data, app usage data etc.
>> No. 431825 Anonymous
29th October 2019
Tuesday 5:31 pm
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>>431815
>It's not like it's being processed on device. It's got to listen and send the bits back to the HQ.
https://ai.googleblog.com/2019/03/an-all-neural-on-device-speech.html
>> No. 431830 Anonymous
29th October 2019
Tuesday 7:24 pm
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>>431823

About 7 or 8 years ago or so there was a bit of a furore over certain iPhone models' batteries draining insanely quickly. The root cause of this, although it was never made public, was that the early version of Siri on those phones was always listening and sending back data to Apple while waiting for the "Hello Siri" trigger command.

Obviously this was noticed and fixed very quickly, but it shows that any overt attempt to do the same thing would also be noticed and flagged very very quickly.
>> No. 431831 Anonymous
29th October 2019
Tuesday 7:39 pm
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>>431830
>>431823

How implausible is it to suggest that they could do exactly that and just obfuscate the evidence from battery/data usage monitors built into the OS? I know it's tinfoil hat teritorry, I'm just curious.

Also how much merit is there to the idea that updates nowadays essentially force worse performance and battery life, as part of planned obsolescence to make people buy new handsets? That's always sounded very plausible to me.

I might just be a grumpy old bastard by now, but I think the whole smartphone market is a disappointment compared to what it could be. All the potential went in exactly the wrong direction because what the average consumer wants is fucking daft, and then they started realising they could just toy with us like mugs and start removing things we've always taken for granted like expandable storage and headphone jacks. Utter bollocks.

I think it went over the tipping point for me when I saw an advert for the newest Samsung or whatever, and it was actually a marketable feature that the battery lasts for a whole day (!!!).
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29th October 2019
Tuesday 7:47 pm
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>>431831

>How implausible is it to suggest that they could do exactly that and just obfuscate the evidence from battery/data usage monitors built into the OS? I know it's tinfoil hat teritorry, I'm just curious.

It's plausible right up until the point someone roots their phone and sees it all happening. If this was happening, it would take dedicated hardware pretending to be something else on the phone.

We've had this discussion before though, and I think the truth is even more terrifying than the idea facebook is listening to you - they have so much data on you, and such complicated ways of processing it, that they don't need to listen to you to predict your habits. Bezos has talked before about how he wants Amazon to just start sending you products you definitely want, without you ever having to order them. That's the level we're at, and people just don't believe that big data can be this accurate, but it really is. You don't need a microphone to snoop on people when they're giving you so much information in just the way they physically navigate your site or type publicly.
>> No. 431833 Anonymous
29th October 2019
Tuesday 8:02 pm
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>>431832

I feel like it's sort of on the level of a cold-reading medium really, though. It's right often enough that we find it terrifying, but we ignore the times it's woefully inaccurate thanks to confirmation bias.

Either I'm really good at obfuscating my personality from Big Internet, or they're shit at coming up with things to sell me. My facebook messenger app is presently trying to advertise child fostering services. It couldn't be further off the mark- I'm vehemently against having kids, let alone someone else's.
>> No. 431834 Anonymous
29th October 2019
Tuesday 8:14 pm
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>>431831
> How implausible is it to suggest that they could do exactly that and just obfuscate the evidence from battery/data usage monitors built into the OS? I know it's tinfoil hat teritorry, I'm just curious.

I think this could be done in a targetted fashion against certain specific individuals, especially if monitoring were only turned on when the target was at a specific geographic location or within a certain range of another target. In fact, I'd bet my bottom chocolate covered hob knob that this does happen, in one way or another. As >>431832 points out, though, doing this on a massive scale would be discovered fairly quickly. There are thousands of people poking away at iPhones looking for things like this.

> Also how much merit is there to the idea that updates nowadays essentially force worse performance and battery life, as part of planned obsolescence to make people buy new handsets? That's always sounded very plausible to me.

AFAIK Apple actually confirmed that they slow their phones down to preserve battery life as the phone gets older. The obvious send-up of this being that people trade in their older phones for new ones because they end up treacle-slow (most sane people would prefer a phone that worked but you have to charge three times a day to one that can barely load WhatsApp).
>> No. 431835 Anonymous
29th October 2019
Tuesday 8:22 pm
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I bought a rather daft brain-training game for my phone a week or so ago, and while I have more than a few gripes with it the biggest one is that in confirms my long-held suspicion that my brain performs best when I'm half-drunk at 3am.
>> No. 431836 Anonymous
29th October 2019
Tuesday 8:24 pm
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>>431833

It might also be that I'm imagining it, but I definitely noticed a severe loss of accuracy in targeted ads once the new GDPR cookie stuff kicked in.

The reality with this level of spying though is that no matter how much you might make by listening in, you're basically guaranteed to be fucked as soon as someone figures it out. It's just not worth it from a business perspective. I suppose a manufacturer could be compelled by the government to do this - see: huawei - but if that's the case you would expect internal whistleblowing too.

It's just not that easy to hide this sort of spying from even mildly competent people, is all.
>> No. 431837 Anonymous
29th October 2019
Tuesday 8:52 pm
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>>431836
GDPR has definitely helped - but there are plenty of US companies just ignoring it, still.
>> No. 431838 Anonymous
29th October 2019
Tuesday 9:18 pm
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>>431834
>doing this on a massive scale would be discovered fairly quickly

Exactly this - given how simple it is to man-in-the-middle your phone and sniff all the traffic, and the sheer number of people doing that now looking for exploits, if Facebook etc were sending audio back home, we would know about it.

Most heavily targeted ads are simply coming from the back-end data science. That shit doesn't always work brilliantly, obviously, but it only has to work well a couple of times for people to think "well that was weird, I thought/talked about that place/brand just last week".
>> No. 431847 Anonymous
30th October 2019
Wednesday 9:52 am
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Just saw a wasp bumping against my window, I almost let him in. Poor sod must be half frozen.
>> No. 431884 Anonymous
2nd November 2019
Saturday 10:53 am
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Just had a morning wank in bed and then googled a lass I snogged once at uni.

Life is good.

She is an Anglican deacon now, I kid you not
>> No. 431885 Anonymous
2nd November 2019
Saturday 12:47 pm
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The old ladm8 next door passed away yesterday in Hospital. He was a decent old sort who liked his ale and telling me the same stories from back in the day at least twice a week. But, he was the closest thing I had to an IRL friend.

Go visit your Grandparents while you can.
>> No. 431886 Anonymous
2nd November 2019
Saturday 1:05 pm
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Sheltering from the biblical wind and rain today.
>> No. 431887 Anonymous
2nd November 2019
Saturday 4:13 pm
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Still working on the corporate design for my estate business.

I've had to chage my logo, because as it turns out, there is a firm operating in this area which has a very similar logo to the one I was originally going to use. At least similar enough when you look at court cases that have been fought over confusing similarity. Trademark infringement worries are the last thing I need while getting my business off the ground.

Not being stingy with my corporate design, but I used to work as a freelance graphic designer many years ago, so I think I'll manage without getting an ad agency involved.
>> No. 431888 Anonymous
2nd November 2019
Saturday 5:21 pm
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>>431887
I fear you're overthinking this bit.
>> No. 431890 Anonymous
2nd November 2019
Saturday 7:47 pm
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I have eaten far too much soup. I think I might actually explode.
>> No. 431891 Anonymous
2nd November 2019
Saturday 8:25 pm
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>>431890

I had too much white chocolate this afternoon.


White chocolate isn't really chocolate.
>> No. 431892 Anonymous
2nd November 2019
Saturday 9:54 pm
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My mum wants walking socks for Christmas. I'm looking online but they all look pretty much the same to me. All I know is that merino wool is the best, apparently.
>> No. 431893 Anonymous
2nd November 2019
Saturday 10:00 pm
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>>431892

My nan used to knit wool socks for me and my brother every Christmas. But they were made from the itchiest fucking wool known to man, and I still had a whole stack of unused pairs of socks from her in my closet years after she died.

They eventually came in handy one time, when I went skiing in the French Alps.
>> No. 431894 Anonymous
2nd November 2019
Saturday 10:23 pm
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>>431892
Buy her two pairs - people who do proper hill walking buy something thin for the inner layer, and then the outer layer is the merino ones you've found. Stops all the blisters.
>> No. 431895 Anonymous
2nd November 2019
Saturday 10:36 pm
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I think I'll get these ones. They've got a bear on them.

https://www.wiggle.co.uk/darn-tough-womens-bear-town-micro-light-cushion-crew/
>> No. 432001 Anonymous
8th November 2019
Friday 10:54 pm
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I've finished off my bottle off port and I'm off for a walk to the McDonalds. Might stop at the petrol station for some fags.

You want owt lads?
>> No. 432002 Anonymous
8th November 2019
Friday 10:56 pm
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>>432001
Cornetto.
>> No. 432003 Anonymous
8th November 2019
Friday 11:21 pm
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>>432001

See if they have any T-Cut - I could do with splashing some around the basement in this building so that the transients think the turf has been "marked", and skulk away instead of bedding down.
>> No. 432004 Anonymous
8th November 2019
Friday 11:56 pm
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I don't care if I'm poor and should be buying things I actually need, I actually want some over ear headphones. In ear buds are shit and I hate myself for using them for the past eight or nine years like an utter pillock.
>> No. 432005 Anonymous
9th November 2019
Saturday 12:20 am
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>>432004

Philips SHL3060/00: closed backs, acceptable frequency response, right-angled plug - £20. Stop stuffing things inside yer wegs, Lad.
>> No. 432006 Anonymous
9th November 2019
Saturday 12:47 am
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Had a big tin of chili con carne tonight.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSd0lfRfyDY
>> No. 432007 Anonymous
9th November 2019
Saturday 1:01 am
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If I'm not too hungover in the morning I'll finish digging the garden. Whether I do or not I have two new houseplants to re-pot which is fairly boring but the plan is to grow moss over the soil too, which is new. I've collected the moss to plant with, just making it easy to transplant is the next step. It'll look cute but more importantly the bigger plant is a snake plant; great at filtering air. I'm working on a sort of indoor microclimate of houseplants that'll create oxygen and clean the air. I guess. It just makes the house feel much more homely to see plants around the place.
>> No. 432008 Anonymous
9th November 2019
Saturday 2:28 am
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>>432005
Sorry, friend, I'd already ordered a pair of Sony MDRZX310W by the time I'd posted that. I don't know if they're complete crap, but those Phillips look a little chunky to take out and about, plus I've been listening through iPhone earbuds for months, so two plastic cups with a piece of string running between them would be an upgrade from that.
>> No. 432009 Anonymous
9th November 2019
Saturday 10:48 am
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>>432007
It is sounding wonderful; I have the last of my autumnal gardening to do today. The leaves have all fallen so its probably the last day of the year when I can annoy all the neighbours with the leaf blower/hoover.
>> No. 432010 Anonymous
9th November 2019
Saturday 6:52 pm
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I was just daydreaming about the first girl I ever really loved, then realised that I can't remember what she looks like. I feel strangely bereaved.
>> No. 432011 Anonymous
9th November 2019
Saturday 8:00 pm
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>>432010
bit strange
maybe she was a space leech - sucking all your memories out of your eyes with her twisted mouthparts like a human lamprey.
have you considered that?

(A good day to you Sir!)
>> No. 432012 Anonymous
10th November 2019
Sunday 12:13 am
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>>432011

It's possible, but the more likely explanation is that I'm just getting old.

Heartbreak never gets any easier lads, the memories just get vaguer.
>> No. 432013 Anonymous
10th November 2019
Sunday 2:20 am
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>>432010

My current girlfriend looks almost the spitting image of the first girl I went out with in high school going on 15 years ago, and come to think about it, they both have more than a passing reference with Goth Lindsay Ellis from the other thread.

I doubt I will ever forget any of mine, because ultimately they all looked more or less the same, just at various stages between slim and chubby.
>> No. 432014 Anonymous
10th November 2019
Sunday 12:25 pm
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Doing the "walk of shame" only I didn't have sex with anyone, just spent hours drunkenly comforting a bereaved person. The God of hangovers seems to have taken pity on me as I feel pretty chipper for someone who drank half a bottle of tequila. Fucking hate how much pain people have to go through when shit like that happens, reality needs rewriting.
May still be drunk.
>> No. 432015 Anonymous
10th November 2019
Sunday 1:06 pm
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There's just no need for anyone to have to suffer that sort of grief or worse. I want to tear a hole in the space between spaces and set about reprogramming the universe substrate with a box cutter. It's not fucking right.
>> No. 432016 Anonymous
10th November 2019
Sunday 1:50 pm
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I have a girlfriend, I have a job, I have some money, I have options yet I still feel fucking dreadful day in, day out.

It really doesn't ever feel better for people like me does it? There's no point.
>> No. 432017 Anonymous
10th November 2019
Sunday 1:56 pm
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>>432016

Don't give up. There's probably more to the picture you're missing. Hard to say more without knowing more about your situation, but those times I've felt like you despite my life going well were down to actually heing stressed as fuck and not giving myself any time to actually enjoy my achievements.
>> No. 432018 Anonymous
10th November 2019
Sunday 2:03 pm
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>>432017

Thanks lad. I seem to have some sort of weird monkey paw type curse / mental illness where I am NEVER content.

I always dream of certain things (not ridiculous, but stretching dreams like having a good job in a very specific field, having a beautiful gf, all these types of things) and they seem so distant and then when I get them I'm just not happy and feel so lonely and low.

It's really weird but I don't even notice sometimes just checking out, and my girlfriend or friends will ask what I was doing and I don't even realise that I've been absent from the conversation for a bit. I'm not even sure what I'm thinking about? Just imagining myself in the next dream, somewhere distant, relaxing and content, but it takes many forms of being at a beach, or having a beautiful child, or a wife I am excited to see.

I'm just sick of feeling this way and think the chemicals in my brain are irreversibly fucked.
>> No. 432019 Anonymous
10th November 2019
Sunday 2:20 pm
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>>432018

I'm sure a few of our resident Buddhists will challenge me to go further and say "all your ducks will never be in a row" and that you should learn to be happy living in poverty while sitting on a bed of nails or something, but there is value in appreciating how far you've come and recognising the good in what is right now.

I'm extremely ambitious, too, and in my opinion there's nothing wrong with dreaming of the Next Big Thing. At the same time, I do have moments where I feel deep happiness, as I've got further than I ever thought I could as a depressed younglad.
>> No. 432020 Anonymous
10th November 2019
Sunday 4:19 pm
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The new girlfriend is a heathen Jenny Foreigner who has never had a Christmas so I said I'd spend it with her and make a proper crimbo. I'm seeing my parents a few days later anyway and it would be nice to spend Christmas with her.

So fair enough, I've volunteered myself to cook a bit of a Christmas dinner and we're going to see if her housemate is also staying over Christmas. Just going to pick up a two-bird roast hohoho because getting all the trimmings is more important imo. What do you lads reckon? Is there any proper Christmas stuff I should get her in on?

Fully appreciate that it is much too early to plan this but I thought I'd best get the meat sorted now so I'm not scrapping in an Asda car-park on Christmas day.

>>432018
Well, how is your work-life balance and do you keep little projects going a sense of progress?

>It's really weird but I don't even notice sometimes just checking out, and my girlfriend or friends will ask what I was doing and I don't even realise that I've been absent from the conversation for a bit. I'm not even sure what I'm thinking about? Just imagining myself in the next dream, somewhere distant, relaxing and content, but it takes many forms of being at a beach, or having a beautiful child, or a wife I am excited to see.

This is normal, surely?
>> No. 432021 Anonymous
10th November 2019
Sunday 4:24 pm
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Protip: if you've just eaten a viciously hot curry, wash your hands before changing the coil in your vape. It's been over two hours and my lungs still hurt.
>> No. 432022 Anonymous
10th November 2019
Sunday 4:38 pm
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If I have a wank I find that I have to take lots of little pisses for hours afterwards, like my bladder has shrunk of something. This doesn't happen after I have sex, though.
>> No. 432023 Anonymous
10th November 2019
Sunday 5:03 pm
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>>432022

I get this occasionally, too. I think it's to do with how your pelvic floor and all the perineal muscles contract, how much seminal fluid you produce and ejaculate, etc.. There seem to be a few surprising differences between an orgasm from sex and orgasm from masturbation, even down to the hormonal level (masturbation releases less prolactin, for example).

Anyway, I'm not a urologist but I imagine a rushed masturbation session can lead to fluid not being totally expelled. Light a candle or sumfin, m7.
>> No. 432024 Anonymous
10th November 2019
Sunday 6:51 pm
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>>432020

>Is there any proper Christmas stuff I should get her in on?

Just the basics I reckon - some cheap crackers with rubbish paper hats, some sprouts and parsnips, a little Christmas pud, a little Christmas cake, a box of Quality Street, maybe afterwards you can watch a crap film in an excessively hot room that stinks of farts.

Oh, and get pissed up on Stone's Ginger Wine, sweet sherry or Advocaat.
>> No. 432025 Anonymous
11th November 2019
Monday 12:24 am
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I will probably get kicked out of me mum's house in a couple of hours. I looked up the closest cheap hotel and it is a walking distance, so it can't be that bad. I hope I can find a place by the end of next week. Or maybe a mate's couch.

I only moved back in because I couldn't afford rent on my £19k a year salary, and she said she would let me be here for a few months until I can work something out. Maybe I should not have come back home stinking of booze last night, because I have offended her religious sensibilities.

I just remembered why I moved out...

Her house, her rules - to be fair.
>> No. 432026 Anonymous
11th November 2019
Monday 8:19 am
432026 I'm off work today so it's still the weekend so fuck off
My laptops overheating and I had a dream about York Fruits so I need to spend the day looking for thermal paste and York Fruits if I want both problems sorted before I'm back at work. I doubt there's any actual computer shops still knocking about, maybe repair shops but would they even sell me thermal goop? And I hardly ever see York Fruits in shops anymore either, so it's going to be a challenging day.
>> No. 432027 Anonymous
11th November 2019
Monday 9:45 am
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>>432026

I think virtually everyone shops online for odds and ends like this, now. High street shops don't really seem to have a very good stock of anything.
>> No. 432028 Anonymous
11th November 2019
Monday 3:27 pm
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>>432024

This was a genuinely depressing post.
>> No. 432029 Anonymous
11th November 2019
Monday 6:37 pm
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>>432028
Depends on how you read it I suppose. I can read it as depressing, but on the other hand it's cosily familiar.

If you strip away all the shite about Christmas - the shopping, the arguments, Mariah Carey being played non-stop - once you get to the day itself isn't it just a nice bit of fun with the people you love?
>> No. 432030 Anonymous
11th November 2019
Monday 9:00 pm
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>>432028

Once upon a time, Christmas was an opportunity to treat yourself to all the things you couldn't normally afford - plenty of meat, chocolates, rich puddings, fancy foreign booze and all that. These days, most of us can afford to eat like kings whenever we feel like it, hence the obesity crisis.

If you try and make Christmas special, I think you're setting your self up for disappointment. There just isn't very much left that constitutes a special treat any more. I'd much rather have a nostalgic Christmas. What better way to introduce someone to a British Christmas celebration than to re-create how you remember Christmas from when you were a kid?

I often visit people over Christmas who have clearly made far too much effort. Their living room looks like something out of a magazine, their kids are all in matching Christmas jumpers, they've made posh canapés and special ginger biscuits and all that. How are those people going to feel in the dreary lull between Christmas and New Year? How are they going to exceed themselves next year? If you have the same slightly depressing Christmas that you always have, then there's no pressure. It's comfy and cozy in a half-arsed sort of way. If your expectations are low enough, you'll never be disappointed.

Have a shit Christmas, lads. It's much more fun. Get a straggly tree and cover it in poundshop tinsel, buy some Eat Me dates and a bag of satsumas, make some paper chains with coloured paper and pritt-stick. Crack out the Scrabble and have a blazing row about the rules. Wake up on Boxing Day with a nasty hangover, bad indigestion and a sense of vague existential dread, then get stuck straight into the Baileys and the leftover turkey. Chin up, because in less than a week you'll spend £20 to get into a Yates' and spend the whole night desperately waiting to get served.


>> No. 432040 Anonymous
12th November 2019
Tuesday 7:42 pm
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>>432030

>Once upon a time, Christmas was an opportunity to treat yourself to all the things you couldn't normally afford - plenty of meat, chocolates, rich puddings, fancy foreign booze and all that. These days, most of us can afford to eat like kings whenever we feel like it, hence the obesity crisis.


I read somewhere that about a century ago, things like a whole Christmas turkey cost around the equivalent of £80 to £100 in today's money, whereas a mid-sized turkey can often be had for under 20 quid today. They just weren't mass produced on the kind of scale that we've grown accustomed to since the end of WWII and postwar rationing. Other meats like a leg of lamb were also greatly more expensive.
>> No. 432044 Anonymous
12th November 2019
Tuesday 9:03 pm
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>>432040

In the 1950s, the average household spent about 30% of their income on food; today it's about 10%. It's quite fascinating to drill down into the detail of what people actually ate. In 1959, the average person ate less than 40g of poultry per week, but more than 1.5kg of potatoes and 1.3kg of bread. Meat was somewhat more affordable, but our diets were remarkably meagre and bland by modern standards.

Poultry only started to become affordable in the early 1960s with the introduction of intensively-farmed American chicken to the European market; these imports sparked a trade war that still affects international trade to this day.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/549161/Domestic_Food_Consumption_and_Expenditure_1959.pdf

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_tax
>> No. 432046 Anonymous
12th November 2019
Tuesday 10:20 pm
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>>432044
I cannot get enough of this stuff, which is why I love those living archeology enactment shows where they go back and try and really live like that in their houses - Ruth Goodman often did them.
>> No. 432054 Anonymous
13th November 2019
Wednesday 5:43 pm
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>>432044

As was said above, cheap, anytime affordable high-calorie food is at the heart of the obesity crisis.

Also, many people nowadays don't know how to cook a meal from scratch or simply haven't the time, and they will just pop a frozen dinner into the pot or the microwave or the oven, which has been processed to death and often contains more than double the calories of the same dish freshly made.

For example, when you look on the back of a box of instant mashed potato, not only does it have over a dozen additives of all kinds, but it also has three times the calories of freshly mashed potato, even if you add whole milk and a dollop of butter to your freshly made mashed potato. I personally never understood why people make instant mashed potato. Making some decent mashed potato from real potatoes is really a piece of piss in relative cooking terms.
>> No. 432059 Anonymous
13th November 2019
Wednesday 7:20 pm
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>>432054

I think you answered your own question, time constraints. The entire appeal of instant mashed potato is in the name.
>> No. 432060 Anonymous
13th November 2019
Wednesday 7:59 pm
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>>432054

>Also, many people nowadays don't know how to cook a meal from scratch or simply haven't the time

Trouble is that issue is right at the heart of a lot of health problems in our society, and looming over us in the future as Gen Xers and millennials start getting older, and it's not shifting anywhere anytime soon.

It's all well and good having self righteous pricks like Jamie Oliver on telly telling us how it's dead easy to whip up a Mediterranean salad in five minutes and lead a healthier lifestyle; but he doesn't work a 40 hour week and spend about 10 hours on top of it commuting. In the vast majority of households nowadays, both partners are doing that, so unless one of you just enjoys cooking in a hobby kind of way, it's always going to feel like a time tax, and people will resort to ready meals and deliveries instead.

I believe the question here is one of economics. Or, more accurately, how our working culture largely still revolves around an outdated set of social assumptions. 9-5 was just fine when it was the bloke going to work and his wife staying at home minding the house, making sure his dinner was ready when he got home. But nobody has that any more, so most of us get home to spend a couple of hours in front of the telly and then go to sleep. The basic economic unit is still two people*, bonded to one another by economic necessity- but we don't get any of the benefits of that arrangement we used to. Our bosses do.

It would do wonders for our health, and probably the environment come to think of it, if we could somehow modernise our approach to work/life balance.

*Younger or single people are, instead, forced to cohabit in big polyamorous surrogate families. Most London flatshares are about 8 people or so. Sure in the North you can afford a flat on your own, but due to being in the North, your wages will be lower to begin with. For the working classes at least, cohabitation is necessity.
>> No. 432068 Anonymous
13th November 2019
Wednesday 8:48 pm
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>>432060
Come off it, cooking is piece of piss. Living in London what you see is people who don't know how to cook properly (depressingly common) or if they just can't be arsed they will cook for the week. Those who can't manage that are just thick.

I know you're just getting on your soapbox but try to remember that most of us here live in the real world.
>> No. 432070 Anonymous
13th November 2019
Wednesday 9:06 pm
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>>432068

I never attempted to argue cooking is hard. But let's face it, making a real effort to eat clean and healthy is more effort than the vast majority of people can be arsed with, and that has a lot to do with priorities when their time is already stretched thin. They know they could spend Sunday afternoon batch cooking, but they choose not to. They know they could knock up a stir fry from scratch in 15 minutes, they choose to order one instead.

Again, I'm not arguing cooking can't be quick and easy, but that's irrelevant. You can't just hope to convince people of that. To do so is making the same mistake as piss poor management staff up and down the country who think you can magically motivate under-performing staff by giving them a good pep talk. You can't.

People who don't give enough of a shit about cooking decent food instead of ready meals won't do it unless they have more time and mental energy to devote to it.
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13th November 2019
Wednesday 9:37 pm
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>>432070

Broadly agree, but I also think people underestimate the time involved in cooking from scratch -- even simple meals.

Can you really knock together a stir fry in 15 minutes? Think about it: that would have required you to have the ingredients on hand, which means having looked up a recipe and shopped for it. That's planning, which also means time and effort. When you're done, you're still going to have to wash up. The more steps there are in cooking something, the longer that takes. Even sticking everything in one big wok or frying pan still means an additional 5 - 10 minutes sponging away at oily dishes and utensils. Anything that gets slightly burned or doesn't come out right, which happens to everyone, is another 5 - 10 minute setback.

I'm not saying any of these things are hard, either, but I don't think we should underplay the time and effort necessary to cook from scratch. I eat an extremely minimalistic diet (think grains, mixed veg, and a protein source for 80% of my meals), and I batch cook on the weekends. I still spend far more time than I'd like pissing about in supermarkets, boiling rice, and standing over my sink.

As someone that works late into the evenings I can totally understand the appeal of a ready meal, and it's only by being inordinately disciplined that I avoid them.
>> No. 432073 Anonymous
13th November 2019
Wednesday 10:52 pm
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>>432068

Cooking isn't hard once you've learned to cook.

Even before that, it's more effort than skill that is required.
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13th November 2019
Wednesday 11:06 pm
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>>432073

Agreed. If your objective isn't to become a Hell's Kitchen contestant, but you really just want to put a half decent meal on your table for dinner every other night, all you need to know is how to cook rice or potatoes, maybe also how to mash them, and boil up some chopped vegetables and fry up some meat. You can always get creative with additional ingredients or the finer points of preparing them, but your basic dinner can be whipped up like that in about 20 to 30 minutes any way you look at it. Getting a ready-made meal ready to eat takes about the same amount of time.
>> No. 432075 Anonymous
13th November 2019
Wednesday 11:53 pm
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I for one enjoy the buildup to Christmas more than the event itself. Fucking about at work, going for pints with your lads, opening the chocolates early so you end up wired every night. I think I read somewhere that people are happiest when they have something to look forward to rather than the thing itself and that chimes with me.

>>432070
>unless they have more time and mental energy to devote to it.

I'm not convinced. This is a question of getting people off their arse which won't be achieved by revolution or whatever it is your selling.

>>432072
>Can you really knock together a stir fry in 15 minutes?

Yes. Information is everywhere, popping in Tesco twice a week is simple and the washing up is a case of keeping yourself entertained as you go. Meanwhile ready meals are expensive, shite, unhealthy and someone on the internet will judge you harshly for it.

More than anything it is getting into the habit of it.
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14th November 2019
Thursday 6:52 am
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>>432075

I think you missed the point of my question. The preparation and washing up invariably make the process longer than fifteen minutes.

"Getting into the habit" as you describe is maybe a a greater behavioural change than you let on. In the same way you could say that people just need to "get into the habit" of exercise or walking or meditation. You'd be correct but only in an abstract sense: do you do all the things you should do, or things which you know are good for you, because you've made it a habit?

I certainly don't. I'm a young single male with a decent sense of discipline and even I will fall out of these habits. It doesn't take much self-examination to understand why someone might revert to the much easier and timesaving habit of something like buying ready meals. We all have constraints.
>> No. 432077 Anonymous
14th November 2019
Thursday 9:23 am
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>>432075

I'm a professional chef and I still don't like cooking at home, it's a genuine hassle even if you know exactly what you're doing, and I loathe Jamie's 30 minute meals for this very reason - it's utter fantasy. You don't have mise en place at home, you probably don't have a big kitchen, you probably aren't that fast. Don't get me wrong, I think everyone should cook, it's not hard, but for someone new or not confident in their cooking, it's an arduous process, particularly for someone working all the time or new parents etc.

Also, I think people are just scared of the kitchen. My mum won't cook something new until I force her to or show her myself, she has stacks of recipe books but only seems to make the stuff she's made before, or occasionally something new but very basic like a traybake type thing. She seems afraid to improvise too, which I've noticed in a lot of people who cook for themselves. I think we're bombarded with so many chef programmes and recipes that people end up thinking that recipes have to be copied verbatim, with no room for improvisation - very rarely does a telly cook say "you can put in whatever you fancy here".

I think TV cooking has a lot to answer for in general - you spend your life watching professionals on telly effortlessly cooking stuff then showing you glamour shots of the same dish but made up by a food stylist so it looks even better, then they go "see, simple?!" and everyone who struggles to chop an onion properly thinks "fucks sake I'll stick to the microwave" instead of just having a go like they should.
>> No. 432078 Anonymous
14th November 2019
Thursday 10:07 am
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>>432077
They should make you do things like learn how to chop an onion properly at school.

All I ever made during cookery lessons was lemon curd tarts and a pizza.
>> No. 432079 Anonymous
14th November 2019
Thursday 11:09 am
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>>432077

In the days of old, before women joined the full-time workforce, they spent years being taught by their mothers, or in finishing schools if you were posh, how to cook a good meal for their husband. Being a somewhat trained domestic cook gave you points on the marriage material scale. And with an education like that, fixing dinner for your other half and kids wasn't quite a doddle, but it was something you knew how to do.

My mum was kind of the last generation that was brought up that way, although she opted to keep up her career as an office executive assistant when she married my dad. But to this day, she's a very good cook, and when she serves up a roast, you know that she's got decades of experience, because the meat and the veggies are done right every time with perfection.

Not sure what I'm really on about here, but I guess my point is, being able to cook a good meal does take loads of experience, but even then it still means you will spend an hour or two in the kitchen with all the preparations to make a dish of pork chops with vegetables and potatoes. People just don't have the time these days. And it shows, because I was at a dinner party last weekend, and my friend's wife made rice, boiled vegetables and steak for us. The steaks were all almost charred on one side, and the mixed vegetables were clearly frozen out of a bag. And she chose a pot for the rice that was way too small to cook the amount of rice that she made. It's just those little things that show if someone's got experience, regardless of their best intentions.
>> No. 432080 Anonymous
14th November 2019
Thursday 11:23 am
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>>432079

Bollocks. We may not have time to get all that experience but we have easily available information to make up for it. You can learn how to make excellent vegetables and steak in about five minutes each on YouTube.
I don't blame her for the rice pot though, that's not intuitive and nobody will think to tell you.
>> No. 432082 Anonymous
14th November 2019
Thursday 11:47 am
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>>432080

>We may not have time to get all that experience but we have easily available information to make up for it

Perhaps this is true for meat and two veg, but there's still no replacement for experience. I can show anyone in a few minutes how to brunoise an onion, but they're not going to be very good or very fast at it for months or even years. The same goes for just about every kitchen technique and they all add up. My grandma's an exceptionally good cook but it's still about 20 minutes faster for me to prepare the meat, veg, and sauce for a dinner for the family. That's not because she's old, it's the difference between cooking once or twice a day for forty years and cooking three hundred times a day for ten. Because my grandmother is a grandmother, and of that generation, it doesn't matter how long she takes, she literally had all day to make the dinner.

Experience makes the process easier, and faster, and no amount of youtube videos will teach you how you know when to flip a steak. The fact the knowledge is out there is a very good thing, and it does make it easier and more accessible, but it doesn't stop it taking time and hassle. I know people who simply have to work overtime or they can't afford their bills - I do not begrudge them microwaving a TV dinner or ordering a pizza, even if it would be cheaper for them to cook for themselves, I understand why it's not that possible. And when we get even further down the scale financially, there's a point at which you can't afford to do a weekly shop, and end up spending more money on premade or shite frozen food. Add to that what I said earlier about people being afraid to cook - the stakes are even higher if the food you think you might ruin is to costly for you to replace.

I don't really know what the solution here is, but it has to be more than telling people not to be lazy.
>> No. 432083 Anonymous
14th November 2019
Thursday 11:51 am
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>>432082

Sure but in the example you gave it was a special occasion, cooking dinner for friends so I presumed she'd have put more effort into it than your average work day dinner. For your friend's sake I hope not.
>> No. 432084 Anonymous
14th November 2019
Thursday 12:52 pm
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>>432077

You're broadly agreeing with the point I made originally, so I don't want to be a cunt and start arguing with you.

However I have to disagree about TV chefs- Maybe the focus of them is wrong nowadays (they're more like reality TV) but as a lad who came from a working class family where my parents were shite at cooking, watching stuff like Masterchef or Hairy Bikers or what have you is the thing that actually taught me how to cook. Look at the youtube channel Binging With Babish for example. It's really basic stuff but that's what people need to get slowly dipping their toes in the baby end, making their own ragu and some pasta.

Maybe I'm not the best example because a lot of my cooking experience also comes from making gourmet level munchies for my crowd of stoner friends in my early 20s, and I've always enjoyed the experimentation of improvisation one of the most gratifying parts of cooking. Even if it usually boils down to chucking some paprika in where it doesn't belong.
>> No. 432085 Anonymous
14th November 2019
Thursday 2:36 pm
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>>432084

I have to agree with otherlad, even the chummiest of TV chefs can set unrealistic explanations for a meal, especially for every day cooking.

I'm happy they were useful for you, but I think you may be more of an exception, here.

This is somewhat analogous to health and fitness media, which places massive emphasis on industry trends, Instagram workouts and "superfoods", when we should really be focusing on basics, economy and consistent behaviours.
>> No. 432086 Anonymous
14th November 2019
Thursday 2:39 pm
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>>432085

*unrealistic expectations
>> No. 432088 Anonymous
14th November 2019
Thursday 5:46 pm
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>>432082

>And when we get even further down the scale financially, there's a point at which you can't afford to do a weekly shop, and end up spending more money on premade or shite frozen food.

I just got home from Tesco's and in the corner of my eye I happened to see a special offer there that they had for their store-brand pizza, it was something like 69p each. It struck me as cheap even for budget pizza, but if you picture someone who's skint as fuck and he sees that sign, surely they'll think, brilliant, I can feed my whole family for not even three quid today. They won't figure that they're better off doing a £50 weekly shop at Lidl (unless they eat 69p pizza every day of the week), because in that kind of social strata, people often lack basic life skills like groceries budgeting. Let alone the cooking skills necessary to make a decent home-cooked meal that isn't spaghetti with pasta sauce from a jar. The further you go down the social ladder, the bigger and more grave the breakdown in basic functioning as a person and a family.

On the other end of the spectrum though, you've got upwardly mobile careerists who sit at their desk twelve hours a day, and when they get home from the office, they'll want to do fuck all and just unwind in front of the telly with frozen Lasagna and a glass of Bordeaux.

And in between those two extremes, you've got very few people who've got both the time and the patience to acquire robust cooking skills and serve up a decent home-cooked dinner every night.


And with that, I'm off to the kitchen now, making linguine with an all homemade pasta sauce with fresh ingredients.

That's another thing I've actually seen people struggle with - making a basic pasta sauce from fresh vegetables.
>> No. 432090 Anonymous
14th November 2019
Thursday 6:03 pm
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The most depressing thing about being an adult and becoming responsible is that I've had a chocolate orange in the fridge for nearly 6 days now and instead of just demolishing it in one, I've been having 2-3 pieces a day.
>> No. 432091 Anonymous
14th November 2019
Thursday 6:37 pm
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>>432090

That actually sounds quite reasonable; you should worry when you're boasting on a national newspaper comment section about savouring some fairtrade 110% cocoa dark chocolate that costs a tenner, at the rate of one chunk a week.
>> No. 432093 Anonymous
14th November 2019
Thursday 7:04 pm
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>>432088

>They won't figure that they're better off doing a £50 weekly shop at Lidl

While you're right that many poor people don't have good financial awareness, there's just as many that might, but simply can't afford £50 a week. It's easier for a person who is comfortably off to save money - I can buy in bulk, keep meals and provisions long term in the chest freezer in my garage, I have time to meal prep and plan, I have the transport to do a big shop in the first place - I don't know if I could carry a fifty quid shop home if I was walking or bussing it, and som