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What are your hobbies? What do you do in your spare time?
|>>|| No. 429386
I'm making an effort to learn Italian as my first foreign language. It is going well but I think it is a common complaint that the biggest challenge is not learning the language itself but making sense of the way it is taught. Something I'm going to try over the coming months is translating Italian webcomics so I have a puzzle to work out on-top of directed study materials.
I really should find a more immediately sociable hobby, maybe a sport, but nothing really takes my fancy. I'll probably bite the bullet and take up fencing in September.
|>>|| No. 429387
>I really should find a more immediately sociable hobby
Have you thought about an evening class or a meetup group for Italian learners?
|>>|| No. 429389
Too many things
running an online Blood bowl league,
playing a long running 4x campaign online with friends,
fet scene (that one seems like way more effort than it is worth a lot of the time),
indoor rock climbing,
mountaineering/long distance walking,
coding/ dicking around with free design tools,
I have an annual pass to a theme park,
dreading up old film 'classics' and watching them half just to say I have but I genuinely admire/love a lot of them and I am glad I watched them,
learning ancient history (be it philosophical, mythical, geo-political)
and since your picture alluded to it I have a real soft spot for steam trains (for my birthday a few years back I went to a heritage railway when the flying Scotsman was there and it twigged a child like delight and enthusiasm that might have been a bit much for my friends when I started talking to one of the old boys running the thing in detail about an engine they were scratch building).
Occasionally I pretend to be a metal head but really when I go to the bars I just can't relate to the people in them anymore, and have no idea which band is playing.
|>>|| No. 429393
Videogames, Warhams, guitar and audio engineering in general, and getting pissed down the pub on the increasingly rare occasions I can actually get any of my late 20s just had kids mates out of the house.
I think there's a lot of things most people are interested in but you wouldn't count as hobbies. Everyone reads, whether it's reading bollocks in gossip magazines or reading about ancient military engagements on wikipedia like most of the people who post here probably do. I think a hobby has to be more of a specific activity that you devote time to, rather than just one of those things you do to kill time laid in your pants on the laptop.
Even though I'm a musician, everyone is into music on at least some level, so I never think that really counts. And besides, with the hundreds of gigabytes of obscure metal I've got saved across various drives, I never feel the need to keep up with new releases. It's either shit, or I've already heard something close enough that a casual listener couldn't tell the difference; I could just listen to that one Lamp of Thoth record for the fourteen billionth time instead.
|>>|| No. 429394
I attend classes but find it's more of an environment where you make shallow acquaintances. I blame the lack of activity. Meetups are just one of those things where I would be sitting at a table drinking coffee by myself because I'm shy when facing groups of strangers.
I'm going to have to hijack this thread to explain what I mean: Did you ever watch the 2009 psychological-horror 'I love you, man'? The premise being a man asks his girlfriend to marry him. All is going well until he overhears his fiance's friends mocking him that he will probably ask his brother to be his best-man because he doesn't have any real friends. So begins one man's quest to make a close friend but his millennial lifestyle prevents this, his squash buddies aren't interested in a closer friendship, introductions just assume he is gay. How horrifying.
That hit me because being someone who has moved around I have maybe 2 friends who would be candidates if we spoke to one-another more than once every few years. That obviously doesn't work because we've generally grown apart. Ditto the people I know where I live are acquaintances I have no real connection with. Who would you ask?
I can see you're trying to help but squash is an awful sport. Where is the tactical depth? Where is the payoff for ruining a nice rally with your "I noticed he has trouble reaching the centre right"? It's a hamster wheel for dull middle-managers to flap around in.
|>>|| No. 429395
I don't see the appeal in taking a ride on a steam train. I did it a few years back from Pickering to Goathland and it was dull once the novelty had worn off after a few minutes; waste of over £20 really.
I like watching steam trains in action, but actually riding on one is a pretty shite experience.
|>>|| No. 429396
I used to play a lot of video games, but these days I can't really get into them for extended periods. I am in a band but as we all get closer to death, we all have less time to that.
I also like photography, but it's an expensive hobby and there's not a whole lot to take photos of (that I already haven't) in a grey post-industrial shithole.
I collect mechanical keyboards, but it's a fairly passive hobby, really.
|>>|| No. 429397
> a hobby has to be more of a specific activity that you devote time to, rather than just one of those things you do to kill time laid in your pants on the laptop.
I think there is a truth to this, but if there is one thing I can't stand it is trying to talk to someone who seems not to acknowledge they do anything for pleasure, they seem to be a passenger to life it self not really engaging, I might half listen to a pod cast on ancient history in my underpants and call it a hobby (in fact I just did above) but the point is that I am showing some sort of engagement and ownership over who I am as a person, rather than someone who does 'not much' because saying they like at least one tv show seems too much of a commitment for them
I can see that. To me the charm is largely the machine it self and you can't really see that from inside the rolling stock.
From inside the carriage there can be a certain charm depending on where it is, the same way a bike ride can be pleasant instead of taking a car, it is a different pace of life, and you take in the experience.
>I'm going to have to hijack this thread to explain what I mean: Did you ever watch the 2009 psychological-horror 'I love you, man'? The premise being a man asks his girlfriend to marry him. All is going well until he overhears his fiance's friends mocking him that he will probably ask his brother to be his best-man because he doesn't have any real friends. So begins one man's quest to make a close friend but his millennial lifestyle prevents this, his squash buddies aren't interested in a closer friendship, introductions just assume he is gay. How horrifying.
Sounds like a not unreasonably commentary on modern alienation that only gets worse with social media. I will bump my old film classics out of the way and watch it.
|>>|| No. 429399
I'm slowly learning Japanese. I'd honestly wish I could win the lottery and have all the time in the world to pursue this though. Some nights after work when I set up time to study, the last thing I want to do is look at kanji.
Otherwise I read and play computer games. I occasionally paint some minitures every now and then, usually when I'm off work for a week. I used to actually play table top wargames (40k, fantasy) I'd love to start again or at least start collecting armies again but again, I'd need a lottery win.
|>>|| No. 429400
Fuck-all in all honesty. I wouldn't admit this elsewhere.
Used to spend a lot of time on my PC. Since some certain events in my life even the mild productivity I used to have doing that has gone to almost zero, occasionally fluctuating to then-normal levels. Thus I try to avoid wasting time on aimless www surfing unless I intend to actually work on something.
I also got a job maintaining a few dozens of servers plus the 40G transport network. Some stuff I used to do at home I can now do at work at downtime and on much more capable hardware. Again, I'd rather not stare at screens at home unless I have something specific on my mind.
I dunno. I surely waste a lot of time doing unhealthy amounts of unproductive shit yet at the same time I quite enjoy the idleness.
I slightly envy my father. In his young days many moons ago he had a detached house, a shed and a car. He'd faff around with tools, car and house maintenance just like I did with silicon thingies; the only difference is that he'd acquired way more practical skills than me.
He also told me once that on really boring days he'd simply hop in his car and drive somewhere 50-100-200 km away, just to see how it's there. That sounds strangely appealing, something I'd like to try.
Sage for going /emo/.
|>>|| No. 429401
>I'd love to start again or at least start collecting armies again but again, I'd need a lottery win.
If you can control your impulses to buy more you could go for a skirmish game. Games Workshop have a few, a lot of people play Infinity from what I can gather and I think that's smaller scale. There's loads of wargames around.
I'm back to appreciating tabletop gaming a bit more after a break from it, it's just nice painting things up and feels rewarding seeing your hard work pay off as your collecton grows.
|>>|| No. 429404
>it's just nice painting things up and feels rewarding seeing your hard work pay off as your collecton grows.
It is a nice arts and crafts hobby if that is what you want to do. If you just want to play the game it is the most fucking tedious thing in the world.
|>>|| No. 429407
> I'd love to start again or at least start collecting armies again but again, I'd need a lottery win.
Not necessarily. The thing is as an adult you have a lot more to do with your time, and you don't get to spend as much of it doing what you'd like to. So a hobby like that doesn't get as expensive as you'd assume if you used to be into it as a younger lad. There's not the same compulsive need to buy more and more.
Buying a £25 box of minis each month doesn't exactly require a lottery win. Paints can be had cheaply from the likes of Vallejo and Army Painter. I started again about March or April last year, and without putting what has felt like much of an investment into it, I've found myself with nearly a full 2000 point army of Blood Angels and about 1750 worth of Necrons.
I definitely haven't spent any more than maybe £500 all in. Also, finding ways to get your hands on models cheaper than you should be able to through starter sets and eBay finds is almost as rewarding as the hobby itself.
Agreed, but I think if you "just want to play the game" mainstream stuff like Warhammer isn't what you're looking for.
There does seem to be an increasing audience of competitively minded players who view the craft side of the hobby as an obstacle to the game, but I think you've got it all wrong if you're that type of person. The game has always served as something you can do with your little guys after you're done painting them; the miniatures are an aid to what is essentially large scale military roleplaying. Playing the game in a purely mechanical way with no attachment and investment in your little plastic guys is just shit, honestly.
I just don't get it, frankly. It's hardly even approaching what you could call balanced, it's based on dice rolls for fuck's sake.
|>>|| No. 429408
Regarding your point about Warhammer, I feel like the current gen's super strict, and quite bland, army building specifications really discourage flavourful armies.
|>>|| No. 429409
Really? You must be an edition or two behind, because most people complain nowadays that the army composition rules are too liberal, letting you "soup" different factions that share Imperial or Chaos alignment, for example.
|>>|| No. 429410
>I just don't get it, frankly. It's hardly even approaching what you could call balanced, it's based on dice rolls for fuck's sake.
There is nothing inherently negative about dice in game design, they are simply a probability tool most people like some level of 'random' in their traditional games this is why chess isn't a great hitter. Magic the gathering as an example of another game that involves pre-building is considered much beloved as a competitive game has random chance up the arse it is just based around a deck so the player feels more in control of it.
Model games don't have to be inherently shit at being games and an afterthought to sell toys to adults, Blood bowl for example is a great competitive game and has managed to have a solid following despite being ignored by GW for decades at a time, because ultimately you can't sell a blood bowl player a new model every month.
The truth of the matter is GW is more than capable of making enjoyable a balanced games (or at least they used to back in the 80s) but they don't want to, they want this month’s model to be better than the one before in game because they care far more about keeping people on a perpetual tread mill of buying new shit then how well balanced the games are.
>There does seem to be an increasing audience of competitively minded players who view the craft side of the hobby as an obstacle to the game
It is nothing new the idea that you have to fork out hundreds of pounds for an army before you find out you don't like the game is crooked.
If you like painting models for hundreds of hours that is fine but don't pretend that people aren't being sold on playing a game at the end of it. And sneering because people’s want to play the game sometimes with out having painting become a chore is unbecoming. Although with that attitude you'd go down well in head office.
|>>|| No. 429412
The man in the OP image looks like he has a grandson that works for Timpsons.
|>>|| No. 429413
Thing about miniature games is that you don't have to play the newest rules if you don't want to. Nobody is going to come around and beat you for opening up the 2nd edition ruleset and playing with the hilariously broken stuff in that for a laugh. I think there's a decent number of people that do just that.
Official tournaments obviously require the latest rules but the company has to provide an incentive to buy new things somehow, models last forever and they'll want some potential for growth. My only major complaint is the cost of their rulebooks - most people will pirate them anyway, so I don't see why they won't release the core rules for free and just offer up fluff and art books for money. As it is the essential rules cost so much that any supplements just add to a big pile of excessive spending. But thank god for Battlescribe.
|>>|| No. 429416
Painting and magnetising are definitely a huge part of the hobby. Few people are genuinly WYSIWYG, but if even "tabletop quality" paint jobs would put you off, then Warhammer proper is not for you. Squad games are really quite common now, though. I play Infinity which needs fewer than a dozen minis to get started and has some very cheap papercraft terrain available, but even 40K has Kill Team.
If, of course, painting seems like too much trouble then there's the X-Wing mini game.
|>>|| No. 429419
I miss Paul from SU&SD already. He had an air of someone who didn't take himself too seriously to do what he thought was fun that I really liked.
Quinns has a little bit of that charm but it seems to get pushed aside by social moralising, Matt always feels like he is auditioning for fifth gear.
|>>|| No. 429422
> running an online Blood bowl league
That's something I'd like to get into. I used to run a small league that was just me and a few friends from around the local streets, this must have been about '94 or so (WH 4th Ed, 40k 2nd Ed, Bloodbowl itself was 2nd Ed I think). Anyway that all went tits up when one lad sperged out when I nobbled his main defensive tackle with my dark elf assassin and then hit a perfect throw right down the board to my waiting receiver in the touchline. We never played another game after that, although my boxed BB set is still sat at my mum's house in the "boardgame cupboard".
BB was always one of my favourite GW games because you could simply buy a team and start playing a campaign, without having to invest hundreds of quid in building a perfect army (and at least for WHF 4th Ed at least half the stuff in the Army Lists never actually got models commercially released so that was you stuffed half the time). I also like Nekromunda for the same reason. Those same reasons probably being why GW got rid of BB, Nekromunda, Space Hulk, Man 'o' War, and all the other games that you could just buy and play and focussed heavily on the "invest £500 on a new army every time we reinvent the rules" 40k business model.
Sage for ranting and raving. Apologies.
|>>|| No. 429423
I genuinely can't remember what the fuss was all about, other than the Nepal lads and their terrible attempts at meme forcing.
|>>|| No. 429424
They had shoehorned it into every active thread. It went from forced meming into spamming so hard it blocked out the sun. The sky turned black the seas boiled cats and dogs started living together and the meme that shall not be named besieged the earth for a thousand years. I was there that day when the valour of men failed and we swore an oath. Never again.
|>>|| No. 429425
>That's something I'd like to get into.
I know someone else uk based running a league online who is actively recruiting for the next season atm and isn't too fussy about who joins (They literally recruited me off reddit) if you are interested. They are using the Blood bowl 2 computer game which I think is discount at the moment on steam so you picked the right time. If you make yourself known in the Britfa discord I'll PM you a link to their group on there.
|>>|| No. 429431
Try a board game meetup, maybe. It's like training wheels for socialising:
1) You have an reason for being there and interacting
2) There are rules to follow and fall back on
You won't make friends, as such, at least not immediately. But you will see the same people on a regular basis and that's a close approximation.
|>>|| No. 429432
I have a number of hobbies, nearly all of which range from slightly sad to a bit concerning.
Magic the Gathering.
Arsenal, and football in general.
Telling people how shit the first World War was.
And World of Warcraft classic, which will soon take over my life as it took over my teenage years.
|>>|| No. 429433
It's a forced meme when you can't recall what made it funny. And I don't remember what was so funny about some bloke who either ate pies or worked at Timpsons, depending on the post. He just started showing up in every thread apropos of nothing.
Actually that would be amusing when I put it like that. From now on Deli Counter Steve will appear in threads uninvited to give his opinion on the important issues and sell cured meats.
|>>|| No. 429434
There was only one Nepal lad. He was a former wearer of the mask of shame, which explains his meme forcing fucktardery
|>>|| No. 429435
Are you sure there wasn't more than one? Unless they were having conversations with themself, which wouldn't surprise me.
|>>|| No. 429436
Yeah, there was definitely only one. At the time this was even confrmed by one of the mods
|>>|| No. 429437
OP, thank you for your thread. It's helped me to remember something very important about what I ought to be doing with myself.
|>>|| No. 429439
They weren't even if they didn't realise it. The Nepal lad would shitpost hard and the say it was someone else he introduced to the site to get his ban lifted.
|>>|| No. 429441
I don't know why he thought that would help. The first rule of .gs is "don't talk about .gs" so he fucked it either way.
|>>|| No. 429446
My hobbies include:
Playing around with AI
Pen testing (my own networks, I should add)
On the occasions I turn off my adblocker, I am barraged with reminders that a certain government agency is currently hiring.
|>>|| No. 429456
>On the occasions I turn off my adblocker, I am barraged with reminders that a certain government agency is currently hiring.
Don't worry, I get those too. But those lads have been watching .gs for years so that's probably why.
|>>|| No. 429463
Maybe this is their recruitment ground? I'll see you chaps in the Doughnut in 5 years! Our shibboleth will be 'Know any decent Nepalese restaurants round here?'
|>>|| No. 429465
>A shibboleth (/ˈʃɪbəlɛθ, -ɪθ/ (About this soundlisten)) is any custom or tradition, usually a choice of phrasing or even a single word, that distinguishes one group of people from another. Shibboleths have been used throughout history in many societies as passwords, simple ways of self-identification, signaling loyalty and affinity, maintaining traditional segregation, or protecting from real or perceived threats.
|>>|| No. 429466
Yesterday someone told me to take the MI5 tests. What is going on? You're all spies, aren't you? I bet you're not even allowed to admit it if you are.
|>>|| No. 429470
I can't put my finger on who he reminds me of. It's someone with a Devonshire accent.
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