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|>>|| No. 434139
In the 2019 general election people were more likely to vote Tory over Labour from age 39 onwards. I don't know if the crossover age was established for the EU Referendum but polling found every age group from 45 to 54 onwards was more likely to vote leave.
The most important thing to remember about the vote itself age-wise is that young people didn't bother to turn out to vote in large numbers.
|>>|| No. 434148
It's happening lads.
I've just been to Tesco's and they had no cucumbers. Soon we'll be experiencing empty shelves and starvation like you get in socialist countries.
|>>|| No. 434149
Most grown up people don't take pointers on politics from eugenicists who wanted to sterilise the poor all because he lacked basic literacy in the contemporaneous understanding of biology.
|>>|| No. 434152
Well I just popped into waitrose and they were flush with cucumbers - regular, salad (?), and organic.
|>>|| No. 434153
>and they were flush with cucumbers - regular, salad (?), and organic
That'll scare the cats.
|>>|| No. 434154
The true horror is that from now on our shelves will only be packed with healthy salads and overpriced organics. We laughed when Gove talked about cleaning up the nations plate but now look at us when Easter is just around the corner.
I've tried this before with cats and they've all just turned to look a me like I'm a dickhead. Is this all just an elaborate internet prank to ruin my street-cred?
|>>|| No. 434159
I tried with my cat when he was lolling on the carpet in summer. I got a still-wrapped cucumber out of the fridge and put it slightly behind him. He leaned back and used it as a pillow. I think he was enjoying the coolness.
|>>|| No. 434165
I have a feeling this is insincere, it reads like it was written by somebody who is uncomfortable with xenophobic rhetoric trying to sound like they are. Could be wrong, but it seems that way to me.
|>>|| No. 434167
That's the impression I got too, but I read this morning that the police are involved now, I think if it was insincere it wouldn't have actually been left somewhere to be reported.
But not many of the people I've met who really do think like this would think to type up a letter like this and print it out. Usually they do their 'campaigning' verbally.
|>>|| No. 434168
Be interesting to see if they can trace the device it was printed on.
|>>|| No. 434173
All modern printers put an invisible barcode type imprint on the paper, it's a unique serial number tied to the printer. Since most people probably bought their printer on Amazon with their real name and address and card it's a simple matter of asking the company for the corresponding printer and then asking the seller to release information on who bought it. The police have just unveiled a new facial recognition program in London to nothing more than muted grumbles, assume your privacy is gone and anything with a silicon chip can be traced back to you with ease.
>The EFF stated in 2015 that the documents that they previously received through the FOIA suggested that all major manufacturers of color laser printers entered a secret agreement with governments to ensure that the output of those printers is forensically traceable.
The only way around it apparent to me is second hand printers, but I don't imagine the kind of people who buy printers to be the kind of people who use second hand shops, especially when you can get a printer for less than £25 on Amazon these days. Given that this happened in a poor person flat I'd suggest that the culprit, if we can use such a word for a person who falls afoul of such a tacky law actually used a communal printer like in a library, in which case he's fucked.
|>>|| No. 434174
The main obstacles to them being found are that a) the police dealing with it may not know about this and b) they may not care enough to go through the rigmarole of following it up.
I always thought it was "rigamarole".
|>>|| No. 434176
While I hope they don't follow it up I find the idea of thousands of pounds of police money going on chasing the author of a poorly formatted flyer with a vaguely racist tone which doesn't actually say anything explicitly racist incredibly funny.
Even better if it was done on a second hand printer and the police have to go through dozens of hours of pawn shop footage to get a grainy image of the author then track his movements all the way home on the day across 30 different street and bus CCTV cameras.
Then the CPS decides not to prosecute.
|>>|| No. 434178
Really fascinating, I had no idea about this.
Regarding privacy, I have less concern for the printer technology than I do the facial recognition, for some reason. Probably because printing material is more of a deliberate action than just existing in a place where you're being recorded.
|>>|| No. 434180
I bet the dots in a for matrix are basically a fingerprint anyway.
We still use them at work. A few companies still make them and the roll fed ones are about four hundred quid each.
|>>|| No. 434182
You can get ancient ones off ebay for cheap if you still own a computer with a parallel port. I still remember the day I finally got BSD lpr/lpd to work with a dot matrix printer that someone had chucked out. Good times.
|>>|| No. 434183
You can see the individual pins in a dot matrix head with a jeweller's loupe. There just isn't enough resolution to hide a code in there. It's possibly possible that you could fingerprint the impression made by each dot based on the unique wear pattern on each pin, similarly to firing pin or bullet striation analysis in firearms forensics. Of course, you do make yourself rather identifiable by being to one weirdo who prints their death threats with a dot matrix.
|>>|| No. 434184
>I think if it was insincere it wouldn't have actually been left somewhere to be reported.
The general way of manufacturing this sort of outrage is to print the note, put it up, then immediately post a picture of it on the social network of your choice. You then leave it up for someone else to find and report on.
Typically these people don't know about the yellow dots, so it might still come back to bite them.
|>>|| No. 434188
Passive aggressive notes are cowardly. Sign them and face the concequences of your thoughts or fuck off. If you've a problem, deal with it or don't. Anything else is to harbour a stagnant resentment.
|>>|| No. 434191
It's all a question of how far you are prepared to go with your forensics.
It is known that the East German Stasi secret police very closely monitored commercially available typewriters, to the extent that a type sample of every typewriter in the country was at one point on file in the Stasi's database. The idea was that this would help easily identify political dissidents who would create pamphlets on a typewriter or other anti-government material.
BBC Four showed the award-winning film The Lives of Others a while ago, which is universally acclaimed for its historical accuracy, and in it, an East German dissident is given a typewriter that was smuggled in from West Germany via underground contacts, precisely because it wasn't in the Stasi's database, and that way, that dissident was able to write secret accounts of life in East Germany that would be passed on to West German media, without being found out.
|>>|| No. 434258
I'm not racist but; how does the continuing pilfering of the developing world solve actual issues in the teaching and nursing professions? At the very least, a sector with a "skills shortage" should try paying a decent wage first followed by asking why so many critical sectors of our economy have low productivity compared to our rivals.
>Points will also be awarded for speaking good English
Great time to be running a degree mill I guess.
|>>|| No. 434260
If there's one thing both parties have demonstrated, it's that there's no interest in upskilling workers in this country to equip them to perform the jobs we need doing. It's far cheaper and more efficient to just import labour. No matter what kind of game they talk about immigration, it's never ever going to be reduced by any significant amount by either party.
It's a depressing reality to face but honestly I don't think anyone running the show in this country is bothered about productivity or the like any more. Britain has been long since set aside for asset stripping, essentially. The banks have a comfortable time in London and that's basically the only thing that matters in the eyes of anyone who gets within sniffing range of power.
|>>|| No. 435082
I mean the NHS was doing fine with EU immigrant labour.
I thought Brexshitters voted to get rid of forrins, not import more of them?
|>>|| No. 435083
Immigrants aren't a homogeneous blob.
People have no issue with skilled staff coming to work for the NHS and fill shortages. This is what taking back control of our borders means; it has never meant getting net migration to zero or blocking migrants the country actually needs.
|>>|| No. 435084
>This is what taking back control of our borders means;
No, that's what it means to certain groups of people, other groups of people don't see the distinction.
|>>|| No. 435086
We have a substantial number of low-skilled vacancies that British people don't want to fill and are only marginally economically viable. Without ~70,000 seasonal agricultural workers, large parts of the British farming industry can't operate. You could argue that farmers should just pay better wages, but that only works if people are willing to pay more for a British punnet of strawberries picked by well-paid Brits than a Spanish punnet picked by Poles on minimum wage.
|>>|| No. 435087
Seasonal is the real boogieman there. If it's a minimum wage job nobody is going to switch to it for an economic benefit when it's available and nobody can survive on half a year's work at minimum wage.
There is a solution that doesn't involve unskilled immigration, simply subsidise mass construction of temporary accommodation around farmland, it only needs to happen once, the buildings are permanent while their use is not. Subsidise the mass transport of 70,000 workers from various cities up north with high unemployment to the farms in the south once at the start of the season and once at the end. Then add a special rule to the benefits system which allows the unemployed to avoid the many many failings of taking seasonal work before going back on benefits. This system is largely the same as it is now but it doesn't involve bringing more people here to fall in to the seasonal work/living 12 to a bedroom trap and offers some assistance to the people we rely on to pick our food.
You could argue that the British worker is fundamentally lazy and won't sign up to the Cropportunity Program but that's just untrue. If it's marketed correctly as a rewarding retreat a lot of doleites will jump at it. The habitually unemployed often bemoan the lack of purpose in their life, if this is seen as a genuinely positive program with health benefits and isn't laughed at like Enterprise or Apprenticeship schemes were people will be on board.
|>>|| No. 435089
Making that kind of work a tax-free bonus for the long term unemployed is the kind of fantastic idea that'll never be implemented because there are too many twonks out there that'd recoil at any suggestion of "helping out the workshy" or whatever.
Forcing prisoners to do it for 60p an hour would probably be more in line with our current government.
|>>|| No. 435096
Don't some Yank states make prisoners pay for their time behind bars? It's exactly the sort of blatantly fucking moronic idea I could see Sun readers getting behind over here. YER, WHY SHOULD WE PAY FOR THEM SCUM TO HAVE THREE HOT MEALS A DAY WHEN THERES KIDS STARVIN? MEK EM PAY THERE OWN WAY.
brb, I'm off to write a quick pitch to Kier Starmer.
In all seriousness though, everyone who's ever owned a dog knows the carrot is far more effective than the stick. Why are we so determined not to ignore that principle when dealing with people.
|>>|| No. 435099
>YER, WHY SHOULD WE PAY FOR THEM SCUM TO HAVE THREE HOT MEALS A DAY WHEN THERES KIDS STARVIN? MEK EM PAY THERE OWN WAY.
In a country like the U.S. with a sizeable number of people who are white, free, and 21 and struggle to maintain a roof over their heads or three meals a day, providing free room and board for a segment of the population that has broken society's rules seems like an outrageous thing to do. Then again, it really reflects badly on a society, especially in a rich country as the U.S., when it cares fuck all about those that have failed but potentially have done nothing wrong their entire lives in the eyes of the law, and effectively affords them a poorer standard of living than that of a convicted felon. Smug white middle class people volunteering in soup kitchens and counting their blessings on the way back to their suburban four-bedroom homes isn't the same as having a government system in place that makes comprehensive efforts to help the poor and get them out of poverty.
So I guess then in Norway, a country with one of the highest baseline standards of living in the world and a rock solid social safety net, it doesn't seem like an outrageous thing to do to have a prison island that really looks more like a holiday resort.
|>>|| No. 435107
You do occasionally read about blokes in this country committing petty crimes almost immediately after being released from prison and claiming that they only did them because they don't want to sleep on the streets.
|>>|| No. 435117
>You do occasionally read about blokes in this country committing petty crimes almost immediately after being released from prison and claiming that they only did them because they don't want to sleep on the streets.
I think it's also because after five or more years in the clink, they're struggling to adapt to the outside world. In prison, your entire day is structured from beginning to end, you have no noteworthy say in it, everything is taken care of for you. And to then go back out and do all the things a responsible adult is supposed to do, like hold down a job, deal with authorities, and find a place to live, must seem daunting.
As far as I am aware though, there are enough programmes for released offenders to help them back on their feet. And it can be done. The most crucial thing, if I remember my prison pop psychology 101 correctly, is that these people are kept from reassociating with their old peers that led them to commit the crimes that they went to prison for. Your parole conditions can even spell that out as a requirement.
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