[b]Lockdown: Clap for Carers to return as Clap for Heroes[\b]
Clap for Carers is to return under a new name of Clap for Heroes, the initiative's founder has said. The weekly applause for front-line NHS staff and other key workers ran for 10 weeks during the UK's first coronavirus lockdown last spring. Founder Annemarie Plas tweeted that it would return at 20:00 GMT on Thursday.
>>441416 Is this a covert government operation, or are people just dumb? Wouldn't it be better to ask for these claps, but also better work conditions, pay rise, etc?
Oh for fucks sake, it was bad enough the first time.
Can we just skip all this clapping shite and start burning people in effigies draped in "ARE NHS" banners?
I really hate how the NHS is treated as some sacred cow and that comes from someone who has a wife working within it. I'm grateful to have it but it is a healthcare service, that's it. Better than many but worse than others out there. It isn't some fucking alter that everything else must be sacrificed upon.
The point is that the NHS either is or is imagined to be in danger of going private, and people imagine the alternative can only be the nightmarish US model.
Whether that's true or not, I won't comment on (cannot be arsed to argue that one) but you can understand why people might feel compelled to talk up nationalised healthcare if they think it is in danger of disappearing otherwise.
If this is inclusive of full-time mums and the elderly then won't people just be clapping themselves?
>>441425 I held off on commenting on this but yeah, the NHS is already getting special treatment from a bigger pay rise a few months back to no freeze this year. The latter being a kick in the teeth for the rest of the public sector that doesn't get rainbows in people's windows.
I'd caveat though that it's nothing that will solve the long problems because that would be hard and possibly controversial. As we all know, we only have 24 hours to save the NHS, those can be safely ignored.
I work for the NHS and these fuckwits can suck my dick.
I'm not a hero, it's my job, and while I would like some recognition that out of any, my job has probably been one of the most grindingly miserable over the last year and a half, standing and fucking clapping doesn't really do much to address that.
I don't doubt some of the people doing it will be sincere, but I can't escape the notion that most of it is just tossers making themselves feel good while doing absolutely nothing of consequence, as usual.
This year's announced pay rise along with May's pay package only just puts NHS wages in line woth where they should have been if they'd kept up with inflation since 2010. I wouldn't call that special treatment, I'd call it finally getting what they're owed.
Of course what the government give with one hand it taketh away in the other, so that payrise has gone alongside real terms pay cuts such as making the NHS pension no longer tax exempt salary sacrifice, and reducing anti-social hours enhancement pay.
>>441425 The most interesting idea i've seen for this is that the NHS is the last lingering vestige of a coherent British national identity. One which has been progressively collapsing since the end of the postwar consensus and has never seen a proper replacement. Once we built our identity on empire, then as that waned we put greater emphasis on our institutions (including our parliament, the welfare state, and public services like British Rail), and then we gave up on that but never really decided what was to come next. From Land's End to John o' Groats if you fall over and break something you'll be going to an NHS hospital, you can't say that for much else in this country. It's all either regionalised or internationalised or grotesquely unhelpful.
It doesn't hurt that the NHS is an unambiguously good thing: We used to be proud of the cradle to grave welfare state in general before we decided most of the people it helped were undeserving scroungers, but it's much harder to resent the sick for having the gall to fall ill, especially when you've got the knowledge that you were born in an NHS hospital and stand a reasonable chance of passing through one in old age as well, so you might as well take some pride in it. It's not like we've got many better candidates for sacred cows as a nation. We can't even choose actual cows, it's been done before.
Meanwhile I'll continue going to work trying to stop peeps with learning dis hurting themselves while simultaneously putting myself at risk of a virus that may kill me while large parts of the population sit at home patting themselves on the back for doing the right thing while ordering shit they don't need from Amazon while not seeing the irony
Never mind a few more witty disparaging comments will make it ok
Ironically I would have ordered you a few beers and curry off uber eats. Out of interest, why/how does people ordering shit they don't need off Amazon negatively impact NHS workers (or health workers in general)?
I've indicated the Clap for Carers period on the graph of UK covid cases in red. As you can see, rate of increase in cases levels off as clap participation rose from March through April. This levelled of April 7 following Clap for Boris and then greatly declined.
Nobody has been clapping during the spear and as you can see, the number of cases are astounding. Nobody has clapped for Boris since April of last year to the detriment of the Public Health of the UK.
We basically have a Reverse Tinkerbell effect here and you all need to clap for Boris on your doorstep at least once a day.
Now, I'm no scientist, but if I were I would probably suggest trying to clap daily instead of just on Thursdays in order to see if it's possible to ramp up the ameliorative effects of clapping on covid spread.
Determining a mechanism is also important. One may speculate that the force of hands slapping together is effectively destroying the virus better than soap and water which is admittedly a lot softer than a good hard British clap.
It remains to be seen whether the latest abominable mutant super skunk UK strain of virus is susceptible to clapping but we can only hope and pray and clap
I didn't hear a single clap. The founder of the clap has deleted her Tweet and distanced herself from the clap after loads of NHS staff responded saying they'd rather have a pay rise instead.
>>441490 My favourite part of her statement is saying she doesn't have the authority to cancel it, when she decided she had the authority to bring it back in the first place despite no demand for it whatsoever.
Everything about this post makes me sick. The self importance, the persistent implication that she's in the right, the idea that "We're just trying to show our appreciation" through a fucking *clap*, it's all shit, all bollocks, she doesn't deserve to be getting threats but something tells me she's not gotten no more abuse than being called 'cunt' in a variety of ways.
Why do people who use "I'm just trying to do something nice" get in my arse so much? There's something so insidious about it, like because it seems like a nice thing it *must* be good. But it's not, it's a fucking distraction and a waste!
Because it’s a true example of the shipping forecast. The cause is always irrelevant to these people and they’re not there to provide meaningful support, rather just the public appearance of support for the purpose of their own self satisfaction and/or gratification from the people too stupid to recognise what is actually going on.
