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>> No. 1301 Anonymous
24th August 2010
Tuesday 7:40 pm
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Hi guys hope you can help.

I curently live in a large northern city. I rent a flat at around £400 per month, and basically after food/bills/cothing etc I have no money left. Luckly I have quite a bit of money saved so I am planning a lifestyle change.

I was thinking about buying a caravan and living in the countryside, but I can think of many problems. Has anyone any experince of something like this or similar?
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>> No. 1327 Anonymous
2nd September 2010
Thursday 5:04 pm
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>>1326
The one I've booked in Cornwall has everything you'd need, including a full sized cooker with oven, fridge freezer, microwave and telly with freeview. It even has 2 double bedrooms, one has its own en-suite shower as well as the main one. looking at the pictures and dimensions given its bigger than my old flat.
>> No. 1328 Anonymous
2nd September 2010
Thursday 6:26 pm
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>>1326

I stayed in a static near Kielder last year, and it had a WiFi repeater and an ethernet connection in it, amongst other things. It really was better than my flat, in terms of plushness.
>> No. 1357 Anonymous
14th September 2010
Tuesday 11:15 pm
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There's one on the shores of Windemere somewhere selling for about 250k.
>> No. 1358 Anonymous
14th September 2010
Tuesday 11:32 pm
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>>1357
The point is that a static sells as one of two things: an old age investment or a bare-bones living arrangement. I know at least one of the lots near Mousehole, Cornwall had semi-legal subsistence farm gardens near it. And on further enquiry it became obvious that they really relied on it. (though they were really up-beat and open to friendly newcomers). Great bunch of /eco/-luddites, in a nutshell.
>> No. 1364 Anonymous
16th September 2010
Thursday 11:15 pm
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>>1358

I think it was an investment. I looked at the pictures of it and it's astoundingly good.

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>> No. 1316 Anonymous
29th August 2010
Sunday 4:53 pm
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Does anyone here do any welding? If no one objects, I have a few questions. I know it's not really /eco/ material but this is the only sensible board that covers DIY.
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>> No. 1319 Anonymous
29th August 2010
Sunday 8:35 pm
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I do a fair amount. Mostly on /uhu/, though, where apparently I'm a nonce for not stripping my own wallpaper.
Will help, if I can. What's up?
>> No. 1320 Anonymous
29th August 2010
Sunday 10:19 pm
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>>1319

At least you're getting close to admitting it to yourself now. Baby steps.

OP, ask away somewhere. People can't answer until you let us know what's on your mind.
>> No. 1322 Anonymous
30th August 2010
Monday 10:30 am
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>>1320 Actually, /uhu/ isn't nearly as silly as it used to be. It's been a while since I checked. I'll take it there.
>> No. 1323 Anonymous
30th August 2010
Monday 12:34 pm
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>>1322

Yeah I keep checking it hoping for another cloakfag style thread.
>> No. 1324 Anonymous
30th August 2010
Monday 1:01 pm
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>>1319

Have you paid someone to put a padlock on your wife's knicker drawer yet?

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>> No. 1296 Anonymous
23rd August 2010
Monday 6:20 pm
1296 Look What I Made
Quite surprised that any of my three bushes fruited this year, as nearly all guides I read say that they only start producing about 3 years after you get them. This is mostly the yield from a single bush which fruited like crazy. Very pleased considering this is my first year growing them. Pancakes tonight lads.
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>> No. 1297 Anonymous
23rd August 2010
Monday 10:58 pm
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>>1296

I think you are lying. I bet a plant made those. You almost got away with it too.
>> No. 1298 Anonymous
24th August 2010
Tuesday 12:32 am
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>>1296

Make jam.
>> No. 1299 Anonymous
24th August 2010
Tuesday 2:22 am
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Or crumble, i had some very nice homemade strawberry crumble with the strawberrys from the allotment.

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>> No. 1264 Anonymous
17th August 2010
Tuesday 10:14 am
1264 Beady prunes
While out gathering things, I came across the plum in the picture: it looks like someone dribbled clear plastic on it, though it emerged from what looks like a scar on the plum's surface. Curious, I thought, but left it at that. I saw the same thing on a few fruits on another plum tree, though, which made me think it's natural. Does anyone know what it is? Plum scabs?
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>> No. 1272 Anonymous
18th August 2010
Wednesday 4:15 am
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The beads were quite hard. I couldn't squish them between my fingers, but damage them between my finger nails. I don't have any magnification available, but they really appear perfectly clear, which more or less rules out eggs of any sort. They probably are just "scabs", but I'd be curious to know what causes them and what the resultant material is called.
>> No. 1273 Anonymous
18th August 2010
Wednesday 12:56 pm
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>>1271
What do insect eggs sound like?
>> No. 1276 Anonymous
18th August 2010
Wednesday 2:46 pm
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>>1273

They sound like someone hitting you in the face with a rake. Go try it and you'll be enlightened, little troll.
>> No. 1292 Anonymous
22nd August 2010
Sunday 3:13 pm
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>>1264
How strange, I saw something similar on my plums this weekend. They didn't look like eggs.
>> No. 1293 Anonymous
22nd August 2010
Sunday 8:36 pm
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Rusfag here.
This is some kind of plum resin (cherry tree has it too). Usually it goes out of damaged surfaces. In your case, fruit was damaged by insects or overriped.

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>> No. 1237 Anonymous
10th August 2010
Tuesday 10:01 pm
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A new /eco/ hero is born:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-10911128

Minor correction for the BBC article: he walked 6000m, not "just" 4000m
http://www.csmonitor.com/From-the-news-wires/2010/0809/Amazon-River-from-start-to-finish-walked-by-former-British-Army-officer
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>> No. 1289 Anonymous
21st August 2010
Saturday 6:20 pm
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>>1288

How many mountain ranges have you paraglided over and how many years have you served in the SAS?
>> No. 1290 Anonymous
21st August 2010
Saturday 9:57 pm
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>>1289

How many years have you spent lying to the world, how many have you spent building an image on top of sham after con after lie? How low will you sink to get another penny?

It can only be a matter of weeks before he's a rentboy. No scruples whatsoever. Like a chav.
>> No. 1291 Anonymous
22nd August 2010
Sunday 2:56 am
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>>1290

>How many years have you spent lying to the world, how many have you spent building an image on top of sham after con after lie? How low will you sink to get another penny?

Quite a few and very low. I'm sure that rich Mr Grylls is going to feel so bad when he's parachuting into the Arctic.
>> No. 1294 Anonymous
22nd August 2010
Sunday 9:50 pm
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>>1291

>parachuting into a children's indoor ski slope and pretending it is another continent

Fixed that for you.
>> No. 1295 Anonymous
23rd August 2010
Monday 5:53 pm
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>>1294

Lying to deride someone for being a liar?

Dohoho!

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>> No. 1259 Anonymous
15th August 2010
Sunday 4:05 pm
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Where is there a good reliable source of information online about foraging? I'm thinking more about things like wild herbs and salads, the kind of stuff you find in small patches of woodland and fields near your house, rather than out in the wilds.

Also, is there a good online guide to mushroom picking?
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>> No. 1275 Anonymous
18th August 2010
Wednesday 1:39 pm
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Personally, I rely on books for this - simply because you can take them into the field with you. Food for Free by Richard Mabey is good, classic starting point.

You can never have to many mushroom books.
>> No. 1281 Anonymous
18th August 2010
Wednesday 6:08 pm
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>>1275 Cheers. It's going for cheap on Amazon so I ordered it.
>> No. 1284 Anonymous
19th August 2010
Thursday 9:23 pm
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Seeing as this topic is food-related I will rather rudely muscle in to ask this: I was wondering if a food/water storage and emergency supply building topic would be welcomed here? I've stumbled across various information and either my own findings may be of help to others or another visitor may have their own wisdom to share on the topic? I think it's worthwhile as much of it applies to survival, preserving things, shelf life of goods, sprouting life of seeds, etc. Something I can hopefully help others with while I am on this "adventure" (perhaps even avoid any mistakes I make without having to make them too) and others can point me in the right direction too if they spot a pitfall or come up with something I hadn't even thought of.

It's a topic that's often much harder to get good information on if you're in the UK, as well as finding supplies or storing them (again, hopefully saving others time and money or even making it possible if they don't have the time to do as much research as others).

Felt it best to ask first. Sage for being off-topic.
>> No. 1285 Anonymous
20th August 2010
Friday 1:19 am
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That sounds great! As long as it doesn't get too /boo/ and turns into talk of the zombie apocalypse that's exactly what's welcome here.
>> No. 1286 Anonymous
20th August 2010
Friday 2:08 am
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>>1285

Strictly practical/real-world stuff intended, yes.

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>> No. 1111 Anonymous
15th July 2010
Thursday 2:36 am
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Not sure if this should go in /nom/ or here, but... what do you find in your garden that you didn't put there but which is none the less edible? Nettles and dandelion came up before, but are there other treasures just waiting to be picked?

Picture hopefully not related until >>1091 happens.
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>> No. 1245 Anonymous
11th August 2010
Wednesday 7:12 pm
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Chestnuts are quite common even in urban environments. If you can get some without the kiddies grabbing them all first, that is.
>> No. 1257 Anonymous
15th August 2010
Sunday 12:35 am
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I've heard that one can make rowan berries into a jam; while jam-making is going to be difficult in anything remotely apocalyptic, I assume that the berries themselves are of some worth.

Also, when one reads a book, what is meant by 'edible' in free food books? Not poisonous? Can be digested to good effect?
>> No. 1258 Anonymous
15th August 2010
Sunday 2:44 am
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>>1257

Old fashioned jam making can be done with rather primative equipment and no electricity (although certainly modern vaccumm systems with all the bells and whistles are great). People used to do it even in the home, such as inner city tenements with only gas lighting and coal fires. The main thing is keeping clean and a source of heat when preserving food.

If you wanted to prepare for hardship or disasters then starting to get the hang of home preserving through such jars would be handy. It was a way of helping get through tough times in previous economic struggles. Stocking up on empty jars and extra lids is something I know a few people have been doing. Comes in handy for when you bag a pile of food and can't use it up or want to put some away for winter or leaner times (seasonal fruit/vegetables/mushrooms/large carcasses). Can also be kept to give away and trade.

Fatty things are hard to keep without freezers and home canning/jar preserving is the next best thing for the individual.

Anything you plan to use like that should be read up on and practiced before you need it. Canning/jar preserving can go very wrong and food poisoning or the jars blowing is a risk if you go wrong, especially if you don't keep things clean (in the past you could sometimes see a can gone bad by it swelling up and pushing out the sides and tops with the gas pressure build up inside from the rotting and bacteria, very nasty stuff but canning has got better and better over time, it seems).

"Edible" is usually accepted to simply mean safe to eat. Naturally you'll also want to know what nutrition and how much you'll get from it. Edible rice paper is safe to eat, but you can't live on it. You could get lots of calories from something but no protein or salt or vitamins, etc. Without any information on that you can only guess.
>> No. 1261 Anonymous
16th August 2010
Monday 12:43 pm
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>>1258
The main issue with jam-making, so far as I could see, would be getting sugar; it's not hugely abundant. So far as preserving goes, one might be limited to some crude pickling, in vinegar.
>> No. 1262 Anonymous
16th August 2010
Monday 1:39 pm
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>>1261

Sugar beets grow in this climate and honey is native too.

You can also cook in the jar and seal or use salt/brine to preserve food.

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>> No. 1154 Anonymous
23rd July 2010
Friday 8:26 pm
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Just as a thought exercsise, I was wondering what would happen if I declared my own house a new country?

Picture related.
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>> No. 1221 Anonymous
6th August 2010
Friday 6:20 pm
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>>1220

Some /iq/ quality right there. Well done!
>> No. 1222 Anonymous
7th August 2010
Saturday 4:15 am
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>>1221

The irony is that two of the biggest contributors to /eco/ are also amongst the biggest /iq/ fags. Life is paradoxical like that.
>> No. 1224 Anonymous
7th August 2010
Saturday 7:10 pm
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>>1222 I now feel paranoid that mods are psychoanlysing us by case studying our posts.
>> No. 1225 Anonymous
8th August 2010
Sunday 5:33 am
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>>1224

Oh I'm not a mod. My statement was made on the basis that I myself mostly post in /eco/ and /iq/ and that someone else does the same. Sorry for any psychological trauma I may have caused.
>> No. 1226 Anonymous
8th August 2010
Sunday 3:02 pm
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>>1225 I bet they do though. I know I would.

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>> No. 1130 Anonymous
18th July 2010
Sunday 11:48 pm
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I was wondering, what kind of flower seeds would be good to use in seedbombs at this time of year?
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>> No. 1133 Anonymous
19th July 2010
Monday 7:20 pm
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Make sure not to get caught if you do. Even drug-free hemp is illegal to plant without the Home Office's permission.
>> No. 1134 Anonymous
19th July 2010
Monday 8:24 pm
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Poppies, old chap. Blooms beloved by old dears and all.
>> No. 1135 Anonymous
19th July 2010
Monday 11:06 pm
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>>1134

That's a good idea, they're bright, well-loved, and if they grew on no-mans-land they must be pretty tough little buggers.
>> No. 1136 Anonymous
19th July 2010
Monday 11:55 pm
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Poppies are lovely and brighten up areas everywhere. Make sure you get a nice mix of colours.

Nothing better than seeing an area that's looking rather bleak suddenly brightened up with a few flowers springing up.
>> No. 1223 Anonymous
7th August 2010
Saturday 5:08 pm
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We had a couple come up in an untended patch in our garden; I have absolutely no clue how they got there (the closest poppies I could find are about 150yards away… behind a row of terraced houses), but they seemed to hold their own just fine against pretty much all other contenders where they grew. The only downside was that they seemed to flower for only a few days before dropping their petals and going to seed. The upside was that each pod produces a metric shed-ton of seeds, so we had enough to make some poppyseed bread using only 2-3 pods per loaf.

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>> No. 1184 Anonymous
25th July 2010
Sunday 4:01 pm
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While taking the dog out today, I came across a bumblebee desperately trying to reach it's own back with its legs. On closer inspection, it had something like ticks attached to it which it was apparently trying to scrape off. A bit of googling revealed that it's not that rare a thing to happen (pic related, found here: http://www.wildaboutbritain.co.uk/forums/insects-and-invertebrates/24066-bumble-bee-mites.html). There are even instructions for how to get rid of them: http://www.uksafari.com/bumblebees3.htm

Just thought I'd share since bumblebees are awesome.
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>> No. 1185 Anonymous
25th July 2010
Sunday 4:06 pm
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>>1184

I too like bumblebees. They make honey, pollinate plants are are very unagressive to people. I often shoo them out the shed with my hands and they'd never attack. A far cry from the wasps.
>> No. 1191 Anonymous
27th July 2010
Tuesday 11:07 pm
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I've recently taken a liking to bees. Maybe because I've never been stung, but they do seem very peaceful to me.

I don't mind it when they fly near me, they mind their own business and continue pollinating. Observing them is really fun.
>> No. 1211 Anonymous
2nd August 2010
Monday 2:23 am
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I love bees too. I used to have a bit of a fear of them because my grandma used to fucking freak whenever an insect of any sort came anywhere near her or myself, and was convinced that my yellow t-shirt would attract hordes of deadly bees. It didn't take me long to realise she was a bit off the mark but the wariness stuck with me for a while.

I was stung once, and in retrospect it was almost certainly because the aforementioned woman was trying to kill it for no good reason while flapping about and shrieking, also I had a Panda Pop which it probably wanted. I watched it sting me in the belly, it was very interesting and I can still recall it with great detail.

Anyway, at this point in my life I have developed a huge bee fetish, I can only achieve climax when surrounded by a colony of the sexy buggers I find them very calming and interesting, as >>1191 says. I'd really rather like to keep a hive at some point.
>> No. 1213 Anonymous
3rd August 2010
Tuesday 5:50 pm
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I too used to be afraid of bees but since learning they die if they sting you I'm happy to be around them.

Oh wait, Wikipedia says bumblebees can sting more than once. ...meh. I'm not even afraid of wasps that much anymore, though I will try to shoo one out the window if it's in my room.
>> No. 1214 Anonymous
3rd August 2010
Tuesday 7:54 pm
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>>1213

Bumble bees are very relaxed compared to other bees. I've picked them up in my hand before and they'll not attack. People do it often enough when identifying and recording them, usually with a small see-through tube of some sort to hold it steady while they block the other end.

Never had one sting or turn on me upon release.

Wouldn't try it with a wasp though. Especially when they get grumpy in winter.

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>> No. 1142 Anonymous
22nd July 2010
Thursday 11:27 pm
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I seek advice from the adventurers of /eco/. I am looking for some decent knife-buying ideas. After years of putting up with everything from terrible knives with metal that holds an edge like cheese to outright dangerous folding knives that dream of tasting human flesh I've decided to buy one or two decent well made or good value ones.

I'm not looking for combat ones or giant Rambo ones for carving my way through Vietnam. More the practical everyday knives, hunting, camping or carving types.

My thoughts were perhaps an Opinel No. 7 or 8 - incredibly cheap and seems to be well throught of and a neat package. The benefit of it being so cheap is I won't be afraid to use and abuse it whenever, while it is still good enough to do the job properly. Shame that they don't fall within the 'legal carry' because of the locking ring or else I'd keep one as my new handy pen knife all the time. A Buck Vantage (also good value and seems well made) is a tempting option for me. The value for money seems to be high with this (although more expensive than the previous option it does have more features and I was considering this one could be my better one that is abused less than the cheaper Opinel and I could keep it handy in the house or shed.

Any info on knives you find particularly useful or suitable for whittling/carving and such would also be useful, as well as general use as a tool (possibly sheath knives too). I would like to have one handy for these things, as well as some light touching up of the occasional shed project.

Obviously the ridiculous laws in this country mean that basically anything safe and useful as a tool is illegal, so I'm not even bothering to make it a certain length to suit the law (just whatever is most practical, whether that is two inches or four) and non-locking (much prefer locking knives for safety) and just getting the right tools and only carry it when I need it, in the countryside/woods or within my own boundaries and therefore can be excused for that reason.

So any favourites or experience with good tools you can share?
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>> No. 1208 Anonymous
31st July 2010
Saturday 4:28 pm
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>>1207

...pardon?
>> No. 1209 Anonymous
1st August 2010
Sunday 5:02 am
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>>1208

He was replying to a post which sounded like it was written by Ray Mears.
>> No. 1210 Anonymous
1st August 2010
Sunday 9:54 pm
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>>1209

Ah, got it, ta.
>> No. 1212 Anonymous
2nd August 2010
Monday 5:00 pm
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>>1142

I'm sorely tempted to order that Buck knife.
>> No. 1283 Anonymous
19th August 2010
Thursday 1:27 pm
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I love my Opinels, but I had a mini disaster today... I dropped my No. 6 which defied physics by landing point down on a concrete floor, snapping the blade in half.

I guess I'll just order a new one.

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>> No. 1091 Anonymous
5th July 2010
Monday 11:16 pm
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Nuclear bombs hit around the world. Everything is in chaos, people are dead, stores and businesses are closed, the government have been wiped out.

You need to survive on your own.

Where do you go and what do you get to survive?
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>> No. 1126 Anonymous
17th July 2010
Saturday 11:17 am
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Probably. Sorry, I need to learn to take a deep breath before posting when switching discussions.
>> No. 1127 Anonymous
17th July 2010
Saturday 12:32 pm
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>>1120

I don't think we've got past that era, yet. The Cold War might be over, but we can still feel it's effects.
>> No. 1128 Anonymous
17th July 2010
Saturday 5:50 pm
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>>1127

This is true in many ways.
>> No. 1140 Anonymous
22nd July 2010
Thursday 10:22 pm
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>>1128

Ironically enough, we can compare it to a nuclear war. The cold war was the bombs dropping, and now we've got a nuclear winter to deal with.
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22nd July 2010
Thursday 11:00 pm
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>>1140

I rather like this analogy. It works for me.

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>> No. 1137 Anonymous
21st July 2010
Wednesday 4:45 pm
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How do you get rid of/control this stuff? I've dug it all up, ploughed and raked the soil but it still comes back.

I've noticed it won't grow on the grass. Could I dig it all up and put grass down? Is there anything else that I could put in to push it out? It's growing in a shady lane down the side of my house. I'll plant weeds if they are pretty.
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>> No. 1138 Anonymous
21st July 2010
Wednesday 4:47 pm
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Unlike this picture, my heliotrope never flowers. It's always just the green leaves in stalks. I don't know if that makes a difference.
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21st July 2010
Wednesday 4:47 pm
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>>1137
A few rolls of grass is sometimes a good call. Particularly if you use horticultural fabric underneath, stops all weeds stone dead.

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>> No. 1119 Anonymous
16th July 2010
Friday 5:44 pm
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So I want my bedroom to smell of roses. Basically, I'm going to set up a load of roses everywhere.

Except, I don't know how to care for roses. I'm cursed with blight-hands, so this ought to cure that, and it would also be good practise for when >>1091 happens.

All in all, help me.

Picture almost related, I don't think window ledges will hide the smell of socks and cum that my room currently has.
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>> No. 1121 Anonymous
16th July 2010
Friday 6:58 pm
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>>1119

There are so many varieties out there that you shouldn't give up hope! There will be something to suit you. Rememebr there are wild roses that manage without people tending them too.
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16th July 2010
Friday 9:32 pm
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I remember reading that the commercial rose breeds have lost their scent due to centuries of genetic manipulation. Another vote for wild roses.
>> No. 1123 Anonymous
17th July 2010
Saturday 12:21 am
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>>1122

There are some that grow near here. They are lovely in appearance and scent and they can grow in dense coverings. The bumblebees like them too, so a boon to nature.
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17th July 2010
Saturday 6:19 pm
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If you live in a more rural area then your roses will be more prone to blight. This is why the majority of commercial rose growers are based around the more industrial parts of the Midlands. It doesn't like the dirty air for some reason. Roses are easy enough the only thing to make sure is you prune them back in the autumn, which is easy enough to do.

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