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>> No. 28057 Anonymous
6th February 2019
Wednesday 12:57 pm
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Any other literal bumders here?

How do you cope with the crushing reality that your chances of meeting a fellow bumder for a long-term romantic relationship are so very, very slim?

I've tried gay bars and pardon my French but all the guys there are such fucking normies and I'm just not that interested in hookups. I'd love to meet a bloke who just wants to cuddle and play videogames and shit but the gay scene doesn't seem very set up for it. I can't stop ruminating on how inevitable it seems that I'll end up alone. I mean, it's not like you can just meet someone down the pub, it's bloody dangerous to assume random men you meet are gay.

Any advice appreciated, even from dirty breeders,
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>> No. 28058 Anonymous
6th February 2019
Wednesday 2:31 pm
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There are loads of gay social groups for non-scene guys. There's more going on in the major cities, but have a look on Meetup and you should find something in your area. My mum met my mum at a lesbian walking group. OKCupid is a bit less hookup-oriented than Grindr or Scruff, so you might want to give that a go.

It might sound naff, but you might want to try looking a bit more gay. Even something subtle like a pair of rainbow flag cufflinks or a lapel pin can help to open up conversations with potential suitors. You don't want to start randomly chatting up blokes on the off chance that they're gay, but the inverse is also true - people probably won't approach you if you don't look at least a bit gay.

Furries are a bunch of raging bumders, so that might be worth a go if you're desperate.
>> No. 28062 Anonymous
6th February 2019
Wednesday 6:14 pm
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>>28058
>Furries are a bunch of raging bumders, so that might be worth a go if you're desperate.

Speaking as the resident furry Bi-lad in the middle of an identity crisis come hug me now, going down that route might result in a happy loving relationship, but it brings its own share of (potential) problems that you'd want to keep in mind.
A lot of people you meet through the furry community might be a bit on the autistic side, a lot of them are anti-social shut-ins, there is a massively disproportionate number of trans-people in the community, there are a lot of bi-people who might change their mind about their sexuality further down the line... And my own completely biased view of the furry community is that overall it tends to attract a lot of people who are not entirely healthy mentally.
>> No. 28063 Anonymous
6th February 2019
Wednesday 10:57 pm
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>>28057
Well, I think my marriage works because we occupy traditional gender roles.

The scene is geared towards hedonism and it's great, but it's not where you'll find love as a gay man. You need to try dating, just like hets. Get friends to set you up, use OKCupid or something. Join a gay group, like a gay MTG community or a gay hiking group. All great places to meet people who are bored of the scene and if you date you can see if they're likely to want to nest or are looking for a nester; whatever you feel compliments your personality. Don't be scared of a top/top dynamic either, because if your personalities gel then you can always invite others into the bedroom.

Gay men are also the least likely coupling to end in divorce, so if you do find someone chances are you'll do fine.
>> No. 28064 Anonymous
7th February 2019
Thursday 12:15 am
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>>28062

>my own completely biased view of the furry community is that overall it tends to attract a lot of people who are not entirely healthy mentally

I don't think anyone thought otherwise about a group of people who dress as anthropomorphic animals and have dirty sex parties in budget hotels.
>> No. 28065 Anonymous
7th February 2019
Thursday 3:48 am
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>>28064
Would your opinion of them change if they were having dirty sex in non-budget hotels?

Also, that episode of Crystal Maze with the furries will never not be funny.
>> No. 28066 Anonymous
7th February 2019
Thursday 4:33 am
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>>28062
>come hug me now
Take the suit off first, m8.
>> No. 28067 Anonymous
7th February 2019
Thursday 4:40 am
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>>28065

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTsYPjTVH8o


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbhnmwosgBo
>> No. 28068 Anonymous
7th February 2019
Thursday 4:54 am
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>>28067

"The cosplay team"

I'd have thought Channel 4 would have been progressive enough to have just let them say furries.
>> No. 28069 Anonymous
7th February 2019
Thursday 8:14 am
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>>28068
Is Channel 4 even progressive these days? Apart from the news it seems to be largely gawping at freaks; I probably watch more Channel 5 now.
>> No. 28070 Anonymous
7th February 2019
Thursday 1:22 pm
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>>28069

Compared to the glory days, it's a joke. I remember when they used to show Kabaddi.
>> No. 28071 Anonymous
7th February 2019
Thursday 1:33 pm
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>>28070
They can't afford it any more. Channel 4 used to get all those odd bits of sport because they were dirt cheap. I'm not sure of the actual number, but I've heard it said that there are now footballers who get paid more in a week than Channel 4 originally paid for the rights to Italian football.
>> No. 28072 Anonymous
7th February 2019
Thursday 3:23 pm
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>I've tried gay bars and pardon my French but all the guys there are such fucking normies and I'm just not that interested in hookups. I'd love to meet a bloke who just wants to cuddle and play videogames and shit but the gay scene doesn't seem very set up for it.


The good news should be that it would seem almost unreasonable to assume that there aren't other lads out there who want exactly the same.

Have you tried spotting gay lads in bars that are frequented more by hetero audiences? My perception as a pub-going dirty breeder is that there's always a handful of gay appearing lads in a crowded pub. Can't say if they actually were gay, but you probably know what I mean.
>> No. 28073 Anonymous
7th February 2019
Thursday 3:45 pm
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>>28058

I suppose I should try to find a gaming group or an anime group or something. I would be very surprised if random blokes in the pub don't at least contemplate whether I might be a bender, I'm told people know as soon as they meet me. Just not sure how to convert that into a flesh-and-blood boyfriend.
>> No. 28101 Anonymous
10th February 2019
Sunday 9:33 pm
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>>28073

> I'm told people know as soon as they meet me.

so a Gaydar is really a "thing"?

I mean, there will be no points for spotting the camp, "out there" types. But how do you spot that somebody is gay if he's by all outward appearances just an ordinary "lad next door" type?

I remember meeting an old friend from primary school again when we were about 23 and we ran into each other at a random party. At some point after a good number of drinks, we started complaining to each other that both our exes had just left us. And it wasn't until maybe five or ten minutes in that he went from just referring to that person as "his ex" to actually saying something like "I thought he was the one that I had always been waiting for". Hold on, back up... did you just say "he"??... Honestly, until that moment, I had no idea at all that he was gay. There was just nothing about him or his appearance that would have given it away. Just seemed like a young lad no different from you and I. It was educational though, for a straight lad like me, because he told me his whole life story, coming out at 14, his first romances, getting into the whole gay subculture, the works. I told him we should keep in touch because he really seemed nice after all those years, but somehow we just never really got to meet again.
>> No. 28102 Anonymous
10th February 2019
Sunday 10:00 pm
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>>28101

I remembered there was a study where they used AI to fairly reliably ID people's sexuality from their pictures but after looking it up it was a bunk study due to the AI looking at how people take their selfies rather than facial structure or anything.
But that doesn't totally rule it out, how people hold themselves and their facial expressions in response to others could be a viable thing to pick up on. So who knows?
>> No. 28103 Anonymous
10th February 2019
Sunday 10:51 pm
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>>28102

I've read about one theory that one cause of homosexuality can be that a person was exposed to a high amount of estrogen in the womb, and that that affects hormone levels in that person for the rest of their life.

Markers of low testosterone or higher estrogen (for a guy anyway) include less masculine, or even slightly feminine facial features. So that at least in theory, a more feminine facial appearance and bone stucture could be an indication that a person is gay. Which could be picked up on by face recognition software.

I'm not sure it's ever going to be an exact science though. Because just off the top of my head, I can think of gays who look very masculine, and straight lads who are really soft featured.
>> No. 28104 Anonymous
10th February 2019
Sunday 11:02 pm
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Have you thought about becoming a furry? The vast majority of furries are at least closet bisexual if not outright gay, and the overlap with general videogaming imageboard shitposting nerd lifestyle is much stronger than the regular gay scene I'm sure.

I have a gay mate who we always take the piss out of for having a mail order groom. Maybe that's a possibility.
>> No. 28105 Anonymous
10th February 2019
Sunday 11:06 pm
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>>28104

(Didn't read the thread first, my bad lads.)
>> No. 28107 Anonymous
10th February 2019
Sunday 11:14 pm
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>>28101

>so a Gaydar is really a "thing"?

Yes, although it's somewhat on the wane. In the days before gay clubs and Grindr, being able to identify other gay men based on discreet cues was a necessary skill. You couldn't advertise the fact that you were gay for fear of getting a kicking (or getting arrested prior to 1967), but you still needed to meet people. There are all sorts of little signs that straights would never notice, an interplay very much like subtle flirting. If all else failed, there was the old password "Are you a friend of Dorothy?".

Gaydar simply isn't as necessary these days, so younger gay men don't have quite the level of attunement. With the decline in stigma, a lot of straight men are acting more like gay men, which makes it harder to tell sometimes.

Believe it or not, we used to have our own language.


>> No. 28108 Anonymous
10th February 2019
Sunday 11:15 pm
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>>28103
Science is largely heading towards homosexuality in men being genetic. The only phenotype expression that correlates with homosexuality in men, the last time I checked, is a ring finger longer than your index finger. ~55% of men who were gay and had this finger combo had shared genetic markers indicating a statistically significant correlation for further study. Using that as a base, I think they've got the correlation up to ~80% among gay men, but I haven't investigated the further breakthroughs in at least 5 years. Facial bone structure could be a correlated phenotype expression, but it would be genetic and not because of pre-partum hormonal imbalances.

Interestingly, that same study discovered that ALL women are at least Bisexual and that has since been further confirmed by a larger study that was released a couple of years ago.
>> No. 28109 Anonymous
10th February 2019
Sunday 11:23 pm
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>>28108
Those both sound like sixth-form common room bollocks to me. I'm happy to be corrected though.
>> No. 28110 Anonymous
10th February 2019
Sunday 11:33 pm
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>>28107
I was introduced to the scene by older family friends and hung around with drag queens my whole teens so I think I might be the last of a dying breed who still knows what slang is and what isn't polari, as hets have stole it all.
>> No. 28111 Anonymous
10th February 2019
Sunday 11:39 pm
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>>28108

>only phenotype expression that correlates with homosexuality in men, the last time I checked, is a ring finger longer than your index finger.

I think you mean an index finger longer than your ring finger. But that, in turn, is dependent on your hormone levels mainly. Very high natural testosterone in a man correlates strongly with a very short index finger compared to the ring finger. We're talking the typical alpha male types like top flight politicians or top executives. Interestingly, women in similar positions of power usually also have shorter index fingers. Testosterone seems to be universally conducive towards reaching elevated positions of status.

If I remember correctly, this still has little to do with sexual orientation, i.e. a top male or female executive can just as likely be straight as they can be gay.

>Interestingly, that same study discovered that ALL women are at least Bisexual and that has since been further confirmed by a larger study that was released a couple of years ago.

Not all of them maybe, but a few of the ones I have been with were sort of swinging that way. One said she really wanted to have sex with a woman at least once to see what it would be like, and another said she did some snogging and fingering once with another woman. She said it was super exciting for her, but that handling a lad's knob and feeling it inside her was simply even more exciting, and that she therefore preferred men and didn'necessarily want to repeat her encounter. She did make comments now and then though when we were people watching, like, "Wow, that girl really had a cute arse!"
>> No. 28112 Anonymous
10th February 2019
Sunday 11:41 pm
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>>28109
It was widely written about in the likes of New Scientist and Scientific American, so it shouldn't be hard to find if you want to peer review my britfa.gs post. I may be off slightly with my percentages, but they're both definitely a thing.
>> No. 28113 Anonymous
10th February 2019
Sunday 11:44 pm
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>>28110

>so I think I might be the last of a dying breed who still knows what slang is and what isn't polari, as hets have stole it all.

Forgive my bluntness, but isn't that good? My idea of progress is that nobody really remembers why 'bastard' is supposed to be offensive because people have largely stopped caring if you are one or not.

Perhaps this is a shite analogy and I don't know what I'm on about, so I apologise in advance.
>> No. 28114 Anonymous
10th February 2019
Sunday 11:56 pm
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>>28113

There's a cultural heritage argument to be made. The improvements in gay rights are undoubtedly positive, but we're losing a lot of gay history to the mists of time.

I speak to a lot of young gay men who just have no idea about gay history. They don't know that there are people alive today who served prison time for homosexual acts. They don't know what someone dying of AIDS looks like. They don't know or care about Peter Tatchell and what he did for them. They're lucky enough to have no idea how lucky they are. I worry that if we forget how things used to be, we might forget a lot of valuable lessons.
>> No. 28116 Anonymous
11th February 2019
Monday 12:13 am
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>>28112

I was not doubting you as such, just looking at the finger proportions thing from a different angle. I have to admit that I don't have the in-depth knowledge about the causes of homosexuality as you do.

By the way, the one bi curious lass I was with also sort of felt in the wrong body. Penis envy isn't said to be common in women, but she said she felt like a gay or bisexual man in a woman's body. Even told me that she had found out through one of those past life regressions that she used to be a 17th century womanising French nobleman in a past life, and that she came back as a woman because she wanted to see what it was like. She said you can choose your gender freely any way you like everytime you are reborn. Her sexuality was just positively fascinating. She was both jealous of my penis (she actually said so at some point) and eager to feel it deep inside her. She would ask me questions about what it feels like to have one, I mean questions like she really wanted to know, and then next thing I knew, she would give me the most satisfying blowjobs ever.

Never again met somebody quite like her. With both a sexual orientation and a gender identity that were as faceted as that. And she wasn't even a butch type, but looked really like your average somewhat attractive girlie-girl.

Self sage for rambling.
>> No. 28118 Anonymous
11th February 2019
Monday 6:03 pm
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>>28108

> Interestingly, that same study discovered that ALL women are at least Bisexual and that has since been further confirmed by a larger study that was released a couple of years ago.

According to my own personal affairs of the heart I would suggest that either the number is around about 90% or that around 10% are in denial.

In general I've found that, generally, the more of a general all round sex case the girl is, the higher the chance of her not giving a shit which sex a given partner is (surprise).

However the exception that perhaps confirms the rule was a girl who had absolutely zero interest in other women but would have fucked for her country (Brazil) if sex was Olympic sport, so make of that what you will.
>> No. 28124 Anonymous
12th February 2019
Tuesday 12:40 am
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>>28118

>In general I've found that, generally, the more of a general all round sex case the girl is, the higher the chance of her not giving a shit which sex a given partner is (surprise).


I can kind of confirm that negatively because one of my exes was just a complete and utter bore in bed. And then when she got on the pill, it got even worse and her sex drive went down even further. And it wasn't just my fault apparently, because one of my successors insinuated to me over a few pints that while he was with her (this was after they, in turn, had broken up again), she was pretty much just as boring in the sack as she was with me. Anyway, I remember one conversation I had with that ex once about the idea of having sex with somebody of our own gender, and she said she couldn't think of a single thing that she found sexually attractive about other women.

It would kind of make sense, because a heightened sex drive in women is often caused by above-average trace levels of testosterone. And it might follow then that women with higher testosterone also have more of a thing for other women.
>> No. 28128 Anonymous
12th February 2019
Tuesday 4:37 am
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>>28116
>Even told me that she had found out through one of those past life regressions that she used to be a 17th century womanising French nobleman in a past life, and that she came back as a woman because she wanted to see what it was like. She said you can choose your gender freely any way you like everytime you are reborn.

Does she remember being born, by any chance?
>> No. 28129 Anonymous
12th February 2019
Tuesday 4:50 am
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>>28116

>She said you can choose your gender freely any way you like everytime you are reborn.

Why's she coming back as a woman every time if she wants a cock so badly? Seems like she's squandering her gift.
>> No. 28132 Anonymous
12th February 2019
Tuesday 4:49 pm
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>>28108
If all straight women are bisexual does that mean all gay women are too?
What about gay-lads seeing as how we have experts, any of you ever see a lass and think "pwoah"?
>> No. 28133 Anonymous
12th February 2019
Tuesday 5:38 pm
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>>28132

The research suggests that testosterone has a substantial effect on cementing sexual orientation.

The majority of women experience physiological sexual arousal when looking at a broad range of sexual images - gay, straight, animal, extreme fetishism, you name it. Whether they're consciously attracted to something is another matter and that tends to be a much smaller subset. Men tend to have much more specific and fixed sexual preferences and a much stronger correlation between physiological and psychological arousal. Some men won't admit to particularly taboo sexual desires, but for the most part they know what they like. A subset of very high-testosterone women have this masculine sexual tendency - they're aroused by a narrower range of imagery, but there's a much stronger correlation between what makes them wet and what they say they like. These women are usually (but not always) lesbians and usually (but not always) butch.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20049519
>> No. 28134 Anonymous
12th February 2019
Tuesday 7:09 pm
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>>28132

Merely an anecdote but I've been surprised a couple of times by A Proper Lesbian wanting some of my knob, often only ever displaying such signs after a few drinks.

I find the idea that all women are at least a little bit gay incredibly fascinating, and while we've not mentioned it yet, I suspect the same is almost certainly true of blokes, and society and our own sense of self plays far more of a role in sexuality than we're comfortable admitting. I mean, the ancient Greeks loved a bit of bumming, didn't they?
>> No. 28136 Anonymous
12th February 2019
Tuesday 7:45 pm
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>>28129

She wasn't coming back as a woman every time, only this time, because she wanted to know what it was like being a woman.

I then said to her, "Well, if you were able to remember in your past life regression that you used to be a bloke, and a 17th century French nobleman no less, how come you have no memory of what it was like to have a penis?". She said she didn't quite understand that part of it either.

So yeah, she was kind of really into all that esoteric shit. Believed in angels, reincarnation, and all that sort of nonsense. Personally, I think she either had some sort of bizarre genderfluid fetish, or she was indeed a closet female to male transsexual. I am kind of really inclined to think the latter was true, because a lot about her would have made the most sense that way. Except for the fact that she still enjoyed having my knob inside her minge, but you also hear about MTF transsexuals who have regular sex as a bloke with a woman before they decide to transition.

She is married to some bloke now and continues to live as a woman. I saw her facebook profile about a year or two ago. But it really wouldn't surprise me if she officially came out one day as a FTM transsexual.
>> No. 28137 Anonymous
12th February 2019
Tuesday 11:10 pm
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>>28134
The Kinsey scale is the most accurate metric we have for male sexuality, but there are obligate hetersexual men and they make up >50% of the population. However, all women are believed to be, after robust long term studies into the matter, bisexual.
>> No. 28138 Anonymous
12th February 2019
Tuesday 11:13 pm
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>>28132
I've fucked women when I couldn't find a guy to take home, yeah. A lot of gay men do it, it's why fag hags even go to gay bars in the first place.
>> No. 28139 Anonymous
13th February 2019
Wednesday 12:52 am
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>>28138
How do they compare?
>> No. 28140 Anonymous
13th February 2019
Wednesday 7:54 am
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>>28139
A man likes it up the arse more than a woman likes it up the fanny.
>> No. 28141 Anonymous
13th February 2019
Wednesday 2:46 pm
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>>28139
Eager to please, generally worse at giving head. Tits are alright to have a play with. They'll let you be rough with them in ways that wont fly with anal. Feels about the same, though one lass was very... uh, loose, so she let me fuck her up the arse and she seemed to enjoy it.
>> No. 28142 Anonymous
13th February 2019
Wednesday 3:14 pm
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>>28141
>though one lass was very... uh, loose, so she let me fuck her up the arse and she seemed to enjoy it.

It's scientifically proven that women with huge fannies are more likely to prefer anal because it's the only way they'll really feel anything.
>> No. 28143 Anonymous
13th February 2019
Wednesday 3:46 pm
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>>28142

Explains how your mum puts up with you.
>> No. 28144 Anonymous
13th February 2019
Wednesday 11:45 pm
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>>28143

>Explains how your mum puts up with you.


POTM, lad.

POTM.
>> No. 28145 Anonymous
14th February 2019
Thursday 12:25 am
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