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>> No. 3936 Anonymous
27th October 2016
Thursday 1:45 pm
3936 Fat bastard weight loss thread
Get in here fatlads.

I've made an effort to properly lose weight but have stalled in the last 2 months - and it's starting to creep up. I used to lift weights 3x/week and control the diet, but I can't lift for a while until some medical stuff gets sorted. This has taken a bit of a hit on my progress - or more likely,ive used it an excuse to slack.

What's your story?

P.s. I track calories and weight using my fitness pal.
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>> No. 4842 Anonymous
2nd September 2019
Monday 11:05 am
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A lot of what you're saying echoes my own fatlad story.

It took me a long time to realise that I'm just not the type of person who can 'willpower' myself into doing something, and I'm not the sort of person who can do moderation. I can too easily convince myself that the two pizzas tonight will somehow launch me into a new diet tomorrow, and do the same the next day, and the next, etc until I've effectively forgotten that I want to lose weight for another week or so.

The inability to moderate is the easy bit, if you start thinking of food as addiction, which it definitely is for me. You can't just have 'a little bit' of crack, so similarly I stopped allowing myself to have 'just one' bag of crisps or whatever, because it's never, ever just one bag. One cheat is basically failure in my mind and an easy way to convince myself the attempt at a diet is over, and that's not even getting into the actual chemical addictive properties of high carb/fat snack foods.

So my method, as shaky as it was, was to wait for one of those rare moments of actual determined focus on losing weight (I suspect you're in one now too) and jump on it. Try to eat well, 'proper food', but cut out junk entirely. Eat as much as I can for the first week or two, as long as it's whole food, or at least not crisps, sweets, and takeaways. Then as I get used to that, I'd start counting the calories. It's all about getting into a routine, and being honest with yourself that the first couple of weeks will be hell and you'll feel fucking useless and powerless, but you're definitely not. You can definitely eat properly for a day, then two days, then three, then a week, then a month.

I also found improving my mental state and general living helped. Apparently people who exercise regularly crave fewer junk foods, and I find that to be true - even just purposely walking once a day puts me in a fitness mindset and I find it easier to resist my trigger foods. Keeping my house tidy, keeping on top of errands and chores, these were all things I wasn't doing while sitting on my arse eating 5000 calories so when I started doing them, my whole mindset slowly and subtley changed. I felt less like a piece of shit who deserved to wallow, and more like a normal person who happened to have put on a load of weight, and I think, even just typing it now, I realise that's the key to it for me. Whenever I've felt worthless, useless, pointless, it's oh so easy to allow yourself to abuse your body, because why the fuck not?

I'm sorry for the rambling, but I know exactly where you're coming from. My only practical advice would be to take one day at a time, and try to think about what might actually make you accountable. For me it was simply proving that I could fight my own shitty brain, it might be something else for you, but like the otherlad says, long term thinking is needed.
>> No. 4843 Anonymous
2nd September 2019
Monday 1:17 pm
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> Keeping my house tidy, keeping on top of errands and chores, these were all things I wasn't doing while sitting on my arse eating 5000 calories so when I started doing them, my whole mindset slowly and subtley changed.

This worked for me too somehow, despite for a bit different situation.
Regarding being a lard arse back in the day, I did will-power myself out of it. Mostly by cutting out junk food entirely, my only sort of exercise at that time was walking.
Sage because I didn't have a BMI of 39, so can't really advise you in any way, mate.
>> No. 4844 Anonymous
8th September 2019
Sunday 11:37 am
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>wait for one of those rare moments of actual determined focus on losing weight

Unfortunately I can never make it past the two week mark. I think that's the point where you can really keep the habit up, but I always slip after a few days. I think that's the worst thing - I spend hours a day intensely hating myself for how much of a disgusting fat cunt I let myself once again become, but somehow cannot channel that into, well, losing weight.
>> No. 4845 Anonymous
8th September 2019
Sunday 2:50 pm
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Different lad here, feel a bit apprehensive giving this advice as I'm not sure it's the right thing, but when I need to focus on a goal I often set my environment up so that the only real outlet I have is working towards that end.

When I noticed computer games were becoming a timesink from real life activities, I sold my consoles. When I realised I'd get drunk on my own as a way to cope with anxiety, I stopped buying alcohol to keep in the house. When I noticed I was getting frustrated and developing nervous tics, I placed trainers and kit next to the door so I could go to the gym immediately.

Don't know how well this would work for your compliance problem, but I think there's a lot to be said for structuring your choices in such a way that you have only a few good options.
>> No. 4846 Anonymous
8th September 2019
Sunday 10:46 pm
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Do you think you could set yourself a challenge of sorts? Like, go veggie for a month, or something like that. Changing your diet, but also deciding to just try to eat differently than you usually do, not necessarily better than you usually do, just different - might be enough to trick yourself into getting into a new habit?

I realise it's hard, but the more you resign yourself to never being able to hack it, you truly never will. You've done it before, you objectively can do it again.

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>> No. 4822 Anonymous
28th August 2019
Wednesday 11:14 am
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High reps or low reps? What do you prefer?

I'm a high rep guy. I usually train all exercises for 1 or 2 sets of 20.

High reps sets are much more stimulating and demanding than low reps. If I do less than 12 reps it doesn't feel like I've worked the muscle at all. High reps are generally safer and kinder to the joints too.
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>> No. 4829 Anonymous
1st September 2019
Sunday 11:21 am
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Normally I avoid Joe Rogan's podcast like the plague but this lad's actually quite insightful.

The weird thing is as well, it's only really western folk that work out knocking their pan in once or thrice a week.

I spent a good few months training with Indonesian lads and they're at it every day, because it's fun to them and not work. Changed my mindset about exercise, it did.
>> No. 4830 Anonymous
1st September 2019
Sunday 1:35 pm
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Besides training every day, what else was different about their approach?
>> No. 4831 Anonymous
1st September 2019
Sunday 2:00 pm
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It was a very small gym, only 1 room, so it was more social as well, they would egg each other on to get one more set in, or do races on the treadmill, things like that.

I think that's down to a cultural thing more than 'intensity vs consistency', though.
>> No. 4832 Anonymous
1st September 2019
Sunday 2:40 pm
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I think training consistently will act as a self-limiter on your intensity. Going in and smashing yourself every day isn't sustainable.
>> No. 4840 Anonymous
2nd September 2019
Monday 6:54 am
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I think so, there's definitely been days where I've skipped the gym due to soreness from going too hard a the day or a couple of days before. I can only speak for myself, but I'm quite all-or-nothing, and one missed day can quickly spiral into a missed week, so being consistent has worked out way better for me than being more intense in my work outs.

>> No. 4811 Anonymous
10th August 2019
Saturday 2:06 pm
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The old /fit/ boards at the other place had a link to a fitness primer. Single page, straightforward, very useful. I can't seem to find it.

Anybody know what I'm talking about and where it is?
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>> No. 4817 Anonymous
10th August 2019
Saturday 6:11 pm
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This. Starting Strength made me the man I am today.
>> No. 4818 Anonymous
10th August 2019
Saturday 8:48 pm
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Call me a verile young stud all you want, but I'm more of a stronglifts and tofu chap.
>> No. 4819 Anonymous
10th August 2019
Saturday 9:36 pm
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...Where's your willy?
>> No. 4820 Anonymous
11th August 2019
Sunday 10:02 pm
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Listen, some of us are growers and some of us are showers. My knob practically retracts into my body when it's soft, but is solidly average when erect. I'm sure this is the case for speedolad here too, and he doesn't have an actual microwilly.
>> No. 4821 Anonymous
12th August 2019
Monday 12:32 pm
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While we are at it, help me find another picture please.
It was some sort of a coloured hand-drawn infographic, at least partially about the difference in muscle build-up between body-builders and powerlifters/heavyweight fighters/etc. I think I saw it here originally; can't guarantee though.

>> No. 4807 Anonymous
13th July 2019
Saturday 12:50 pm
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405 lbs for 23 reps. Looks a bit fake to me.
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>> No. 4808 Anonymous
13th July 2019
Saturday 8:08 pm
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Aluminium plates

>> No. 4802 Anonymous
11th July 2019
Thursday 1:37 pm
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I've started working on my front squats. I really like the movement, and I think I'm now getting into a respectable "front rack" position (pictured). It's nice, stable enough to nearly match my regular/back squat.

Thing is, the outside of my collarbones are still bruising where I'm holding the bar. Can any weightlifters comment on whether the collarbones eventually adapt?
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>> No. 4803 Anonymous
11th July 2019
Thursday 8:38 pm
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why the hell are you doing front squats?
>> No. 4804 Anonymous
11th July 2019
Thursday 11:15 pm
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Why the hell not?
>> No. 4805 Anonymous
12th July 2019
Friday 8:20 pm
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>less control of barbell
>have to use less weight
>risky to shoulders and elbows
>makes breathing more difficult
>literally no advantage over back squats

(A good day to you Sir!)
>> No. 4806 Anonymous
13th July 2019
Saturday 1:25 am
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Are you sure you're here legally?

>> No. 4745 Anonymous
9th January 2019
Wednesday 8:24 am
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Started doing this workout 2 months ago and I'm already getting bigger and feel fitter.

Sumo Deadlift
Calf raise

All exercises for 3x20, 1 min rest. 2 workouts a week.

The high reps give me a massive pump and leave me breathless. The latest studies show that high reps are just as effective at building muscle as low reps. They're also easier on the joints and give you a good cardio workout.
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>> No. 4746 Anonymous
9th January 2019
Wednesday 8:47 am
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Low reps are for wimps. High reps are what the real tough guys do.

A 5 rep set is all over in a few seconds. A 30 rep squat or 20 rep deadlift is a whole other kind of beast. Your muscles will be set on fire and you'll be breathing like a horse at the end of the set. It's the difference between a little scuffle in the street and going a whole round in the ring taking pounding after pounding.
>> No. 4747 Anonymous
12th January 2019
Saturday 9:24 am
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I changed my routine to try this following your post - I felt more knackered than I usually do and I reckon you're probably onto something, mate.

What sources are you looking at to suggest the higher repetitions are preferable to less repetitions at a higher weight? I'm curious about the studies you're talking about.
>> No. 4748 Anonymous
12th January 2019
Saturday 4:00 pm
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This is what happens to you after training heavy for years.

>> No. 4749 Anonymous
12th January 2019
Saturday 8:44 pm
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Well, that and taking more gear than the entire East German Olympic team.
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13th January 2019
Sunday 4:51 pm
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>> No. 4737 Anonymous
13th December 2018
Thursday 8:00 am
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Do appetite suppressants actually work?

I'm putting on weight but I'm not overeating out of boredom or anything like that; I genuinely feel hungry a lot of the time.
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>> No. 4739 Anonymous
13th December 2018
Thursday 10:23 am
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Any really effective drug is going to come with side effects, so I'd encourage you to think about the underlying causes first.

The biology for hunger and satiety is a bit more complex than most people acknowledge. You might do well to read up on hormonal regulators like leptin and ghrelin, and what affects them. For example, losing sleep can affect how we experience hunger and how we digest food.

The solution to your problem could be something as simple as eating slower, giving you a chance to feel satiated before eating too many calories.

It's well known that people are capable of eating a lot more calories from hyper-palatable foods like chocolate or salted chips/skinny fries. Something as simple as adding highly satiating foods like protein or vegetables, in place of snacks, might help.

Also, are you on any drugs for which increased appetite is a known side effect? Antidepressants, steroids, etc.?

It's also worth asking, are you currently underweight or overweight? Often our perceptions of our bodyweight dont line up with the reality. Have you experienced any kind of disordered eating in the past?
>> No. 4740 Anonymous
13th December 2018
Thursday 11:14 am
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I drink quite a lot of water at work. This might sound daft but it feels a bit... thin and hollow is probably the best way to describe it; not filling. Perhaps I just need to add lemon or honey to it.

I'm not on any drugs. I'm about 5'11" and I'm not entirely sure on my weight; I think it's somewhere around 12 stone. I'm reaching the point where I'm going to have to go from 32" jeans to 34" ones.

I do eat vegetables with most meals. I think the issue might be that I follow a largely vegetarian diet and it simply doesn't fill you the way that meat does.
>> No. 4741 Anonymous
13th December 2018
Thursday 12:58 pm
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Did you change to this mostly veg diet recently?

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that you're consciously registering cravings and mid-morning hunger pangs more because you're naturally climbing a jean size as you get older. 34" is fine and the increase is expected at this time of year with the winter gorging and Christmas treats. Eat and be merry now but get on the old bike come January to burn it off before summer.
>> No. 4742 Anonymous
13th December 2018
Thursday 2:02 pm
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> I'm going to have to go from 32" jeans to 34" ones
I'm 5'7 and a healthy weight and my waist is about about 32" you sound fine.

From a medical point of view you sound perfecly healthy, my crude math says your BMI is 23.5 and your body fat is under 20% if you want to be slimmer you are probably at the point where exercise would be better then dieting.
>> No. 4743 Anonymous
13th December 2018
Thursday 6:49 pm
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Get some scales. Healthy BMI was 20-25, but lower bound was taken down to 18. Sorry to say, but it's highly unlikely you have some hormonal leptin secretion defect that's influencing your weight. The answer is the same as it's ever been; and it's as horrible as it ever was -- eat less, exercise more.

There's a proven link between increased stress and weight gain, and a link between <N hours of sleep and increased stress. Aside from the other bad side effects, this is one way in which caffeinated beverages might hurt somebody on a diet even though they're 0-calorie. They're also diuretics, which I think is bad for appetite regulation.

Check out -- https://www.cam.ac.uk/research/news/being-overweight-linked-to-poorer-memory

That's another mechanism to link lack of sleep and overeating. Dr. Cheke's other research is interesting. The strength of your memory of how recently you eat, will influence when you eat next. If you eat with distractions (eg. using your phone, in front of the TV), you remember the episode less well, and eat your next meal sooner. She's investigating a hypothesis of a causal link between age-related memory impairment, and weight gain in middle age -- people gain weight in middle age; middle age is when memory begins to decline. Lots of interesting research, lots of academics and medics with lots of explanations as to why everybody's fat now. But there's a consensus on the solution, which is, "eat less, exercise more".

>> No. 4731 Anonymous
20th November 2018
Tuesday 10:00 pm
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(A good day to you Sir!)
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>> No. 4732 Anonymous
20th November 2018
Tuesday 10:33 pm
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I find posting without a comment to be highly obnoxious outside of /iq/. I won't just watch your damn video, justify it. Also who knew doing a leg exercise would make the legs grow more muscle?

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>> No. 4722 Anonymous
17th November 2018
Saturday 6:22 pm
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Any of you lads have or have had travel sickness and beat it?

I'm starting a job in January that is further than my current and I'd want to use that time on public transport doing something useful like reading. The problem is I can go about 1 minute of reading while moving before I feel dizzy and get a headache. I'm fairly certain it would then evolve into a migraine.

Looking out the window will get fairly boring.
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>> No. 4726 Anonymous
17th November 2018
Saturday 6:48 pm
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A few practical suggestions spring to mind. If you need glasses, wear them. Similarly, books with larger and easier to read print are likely to be less aggravating. Experiment with facing different directions and places on the vehicle and see what works best for you. If you don't want to take medication, I've found ginger really helps as an antiemetic.

The nausea, in my experience, is actually caused by trying to hold the book too steady. Your inner ear feels your body moving, but you're focused on a book you're doing your best to hold still. It's these mixed signals that make you feel sick. Personally I relax my hands and arms so the book moves along with any bumps or swaying.
>> No. 4727 Anonymous
17th November 2018
Saturday 6:48 pm
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It might come down to that, I do like owning physical books though which is why I'd rather read.
I'll have to try this.
>> No. 4728 Anonymous
17th November 2018
Saturday 6:54 pm
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I got over it just through repeated exposure. When I started taking flying lessons I would get it quite badly, but by the time I got my licence it was no longer an issue.

It would be unpleasant to put yourself through it, but you could find that by just forcing yourself to do it every day (stopping well before you actually vomit of course) could get your body used to the sensation.
>> No. 4729 Anonymous
17th November 2018
Saturday 8:06 pm
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The missus combats this by sort of leaning her head towards the window, so the movement outside is still in her periphery while she's reading. In my mind that seems like it'd make you feel worse, but it works for her. She's a bit odd though.
>> No. 4730 Anonymous
18th November 2018
Sunday 1:38 am
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>> No. 4700 Anonymous
8th November 2018
Thursday 12:12 pm
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Is creatine monohydrate worth taking? I just ordered some for 4 quid off ebay.
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>> No. 4716 Anonymous
10th November 2018
Saturday 3:44 pm
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I can just about read right there myself on the packet that it's telling you to mix it with something. What the fuck, is this a next level troll?
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10th November 2018
Saturday 3:48 pm
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>> No. 4718 Anonymous
10th November 2018
Saturday 5:10 pm
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It's shit, all you do is feel dehydrated and piss a lot from chugging gallons of water. Also makes you swell up a bit like a girl's tits when she's on her monthly.
>> No. 4719 Anonymous
10th November 2018
Saturday 5:44 pm
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Stir it into a yoghurt. FFS lad, you're never going to make it.
>> No. 4720 Anonymous
11th November 2018
Sunday 3:34 am
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>> No. 4690 Anonymous
7th November 2018
Wednesday 9:04 pm
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Is dianabol legal for personal use in the uk? If so where can I get some?
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>> No. 4695 Anonymous
7th November 2018
Wednesday 9:32 pm
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>Just inject fucking Test-enth and stop being a fucking pussy.

Is this a good price for 10ml 250mg/ml?
>> No. 4696 Anonymous
7th November 2018
Wednesday 9:46 pm
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Once you're super yoked make sure to post in /y/.
>> No. 4697 Anonymous
7th November 2018
Wednesday 10:18 pm
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Work it out in terms of cycles. You're going to want to run half a gram a week or 250mg e3d. Your cycle will be twelve weeks long, so you're looking at 2ml / week x 12 weeks = 24ml or roughly three bottles of gear. Don't forget your PCT.

PS: I would say don't be the next Moaty but we are in desperate need in one. Do it for us, lad.
>> No. 4698 Anonymous
8th November 2018
Thursday 12:23 am
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>I would say don't be the next Moaty but we are in desperate need in one. Do it for us, lad.

Careful now, that's borderline incitement.
>> No. 4699 Anonymous
8th November 2018
Thursday 12:25 am
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Then me 'n' Mini Moaty will go on the run together him as him and me as his inciter. Never catch us you piggy scum.

>> No. 4667 Anonymous
18th October 2018
Thursday 6:25 pm
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I know it sounds terribly dramatic, but would getting some kind of face mask be a good idea for traveling around in vehicle dense enviroments? I had to spend several hours walking along packed roads today and I felt like shit; I got a ache at the base of my skull and I could taste and smell the acrid smog the whole time. Smog's not the right word because you can't even see it, but by heck it's there.
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>> No. 4684 Anonymous
19th October 2018
Friday 12:20 pm
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I sometimes use a mask I purchased for this very purpose from the Cambridge Mask Company.

One noticeable difference while wearing it out and about is that people are unable to see you smile at them. So if you catch someone's eye and want to be friendly, or bump into someone and want to look apologetic, you can't. It's quite dramatic how being bereft of that single facial expression can suddenly make you a social outcast, quite apart from wearing something odd in the first place.
>> No. 4685 Anonymous
19th October 2018
Friday 2:25 pm
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u wot m8. Hijab's would cover the mask, so OP-lad wouldn't need to be self-conscious about his mask. Hijab's are the most socially acceptable way of covering your face that I could think of, hence the suggestion.
>> No. 4686 Anonymous
19th October 2018
Friday 2:32 pm
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Oh look, the flagbearer for the perpetually offended brigade has arrived.
>> No. 4687 Anonymous
19th October 2018
Friday 2:43 pm
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Fuck you granddad.
>> No. 4688 Anonymous ## Mod ##
19th October 2018
Friday 2:55 pm
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Stop being twats in /fat/...s.

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>> No. 4638 Anonymous
29th August 2018
Wednesday 1:01 am
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>> No. 4661 Anonymous
2nd September 2018
Sunday 11:10 am
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>People who pump themselves full of steroids then stand in front of a mirror all day aren't exactly the same as people who get a body like that through hard work alone.

I don't see why they wouldn't be at that point, I struggle to think of the job that would warrant someone passively developing a body like that, someone has to be going out of their way for some reason to develop that body, either because they are highly competitive or out of ascetics, and at that level of obsession I don't see why one is any more virtuous than the other. Mike Tyson was an absolute daemon at the height of his career but if you ignore the money, could you imagine your life being this heavily devoted to a few minutes of fighting, that isn't hyperbole either Tyson had 23 professional fights where he knocked out his opponent in the first round a lot of those in under a minute.
>> No. 4662 Anonymous
2nd September 2018
Sunday 11:32 am
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I agree that bodybuilding is certainly better for you than being a fat cunt, but I'd be inclined to call it dysmorphia too. It's certainly a hobby for obsessives and is not without its own health risks. I say that as someone who goes to the gym 6 days a week.


Bodybuilders on steroids still work as hard, or often harder, than those doing it without PEDs.
>> No. 4663 Anonymous
2nd September 2018
Sunday 4:41 pm
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Indeed, one of the main advantages of certain PEDs is to be able to recover better.
>> No. 4664 Anonymous
2nd September 2018
Sunday 5:06 pm
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Shave and contacts would have done him a lot better.

Saved a lot of time too.
>> No. 4665 Anonymous
2nd September 2018
Sunday 6:50 pm
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he is the one on the right in this photo >>4659

>> No. 4621 Anonymous
27th August 2018
Monday 9:08 pm
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Diabetic lad here.

I want to cure my type 2 diabetes before it turns me into a rotting zombie. The doctors do not want to hear any of it, they just want to pump me full of Metformin, Lantus and Novorapid.

Here's my plan: intermittent fasting, no food allowed from 8PM to 12AM. 1000 calories every day, mainly beans, rice, green vegetables, lean meat. Only drinks allowed are coffee or tea without milk or sugar, sparkling water.

Following this guidelines, I had my blood sugar at 7, without taking any insulin or metformin. I am going to speak with my diabetic nurse next week and ask what she thinks of it.

Any advice?
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>> No. 4637 Anonymous
28th August 2018
Tuesday 11:41 pm
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>By the way, it's not even a restricted medication

I haven't gone into a phamacy and asked, but wikipedia has it listed as a Prescription-only drugs.
>> No. 4639 Anonymous
29th August 2018
Wednesday 7:00 am
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>Eating high volumes of low calorie foods is a fat person thing and a fat person thing only

OH right, that's why I see so many obese bastards carrying round bin-bags full of lettuce and carrot sticks.
>> No. 4641 Anonymous
29th August 2018
Wednesday 8:16 am
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Probably because their parents lectured them on Happy Meals.
>> No. 4642 Anonymous
29th August 2018
Wednesday 11:33 am
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I mean that it is not a morphine based medication, it can be bought in an online pharmacy
>> No. 4653 Anonymous
31st August 2018
Friday 12:47 am
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I thought it was implied that it was a fat person trying to lose weight thing, but slamming your forehead into the keyboard works just as well.

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