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>> No. 23097 Anonymous
9th September 2014
Tuesday 12:03 am
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It's about to drop
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>> No. 23099 Anonymous
9th September 2014
Tuesday 4:11 pm
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Apple stock?
>> No. 23105 Anonymous
9th September 2014
Tuesday 6:26 pm
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According to reports I've read (all BBC), tech stocks in general have been dropping for the last .. 4 months? I wonder if theres soon to be a techno-crash in the near future, and if so, why? Surely the tech market would be the highest in this day and age. I can only imagine either people will have not enough money to buy tech or resources might become scarce or unstable. It might be obvious I have no idea what I'm talking about. Interesting, though.
>> No. 23106 Anonymous
9th September 2014
Tuesday 6:30 pm
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There's unlikely to be a sudden crash, but decline is inevitable as the market is at saturation.
Pretty much everyone owns all the latest technology now, even in china. And everything is getting so outstandingly good these days that many more people are becoming happier to keep their current technology until it breaks, rather than upgrading on a regular basis.
>> No. 23107 Anonymous
9th September 2014
Tuesday 6:46 pm
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Exactly. All the new iphones/ipads are almost identical to all the previous ones. And any radical alteration in their best products are going to likely be unpopular with consumers, so there is no growth.


If the stocks are over valued and investors realize, it doesn't matter how good the tech is. Twitter for example was a pretty terrible stock to buy for many people because due to the hype surrounding the IPO, it was overvalued.
>> No. 23108 Anonymous
9th September 2014
Tuesday 6:57 pm
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Sony is losing money hand over fist, even with the success of the PS4.

Samsung are being sued by Nvidia for a fucking lot of money for blatantly ignoring their patents. Samsung don't have a leg to stand on. The lawsuit will destroy Oculus Rift if Samsung refuses to settle because they provide the screens.

Lot of uncertainty recently, twinned with the fact Samsung practically keeps South Korea afloat.
>> No. 23109 Anonymous
9th September 2014
Tuesday 7:20 pm
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>the market is at saturation
Here's a fact for you, half the people in Japan don't own a smartphone, surprising I know. Though I do agree with your statement about the grand scheme of things.

>> No. 23110 Anonymous
9th September 2014
Tuesday 7:33 pm
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Then how are consoles, handheld or otherwise, dying on their arse due to the popularity of mobile gaming in Japan?
>> No. 23111 Anonymous
9th September 2014
Tuesday 8:30 pm
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Snake and Tetris?
>> No. 23113 Anonymous
9th September 2014
Tuesday 8:53 pm
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If only it were. Instead it is iOS/android ports of old PS/PS2 games and Bubble Witch Saga, Clash of Clan, et al.
>> No. 23114 Anonymous
9th September 2014
Tuesday 8:55 pm
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> half the people in Japan don't own a smartphone
Why is this the case?
>> No. 23116 Anonymous
9th September 2014
Tuesday 9:11 pm
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Japanese feature phones or "galapagos phones" have many features which we'd commonly associate with smart phones. They developed in isolation from the rest of the world's mobile industry (hence the galapagos moniker), so it's been uniquely challenging to convince Japanese people that a smartphone is a worthwhile upgrade. Ownership has definitely been increasing, mind, just not at the rate it has elsewhere.
>> No. 23117 Anonymous
9th September 2014
Tuesday 9:14 pm
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I assume it's partly due to the fact that a whole quarter of Japans population is over the age of 65.
>> No. 23118 Anonymous
10th September 2014
Wednesday 3:55 am
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That. Japan uses a lot of weird proprietary technology which tends not to be well-supported by international brands. It's not that Japanese consumers are luddites, but that they demand a unique set of features. The iPhone has done relatively well, mainly due to fashion, but Android adoption has been very slow. The Android market in Japan is dominated by local brands like Sony and Sharp, who produce handsets specifically for the domestic market.

Mobile data is relatively expensive in Japan (partly due to the dominance of the old monopoly NTT, partly due to the difficulty of providing good coverage in a country with such an unevenly-distributed population), which has slowed the adoption of modern web technologies; The Japanese mobile internet is still dominated by i-Mode services, which are very bandwidth-efficient.

To give a couple of examples of the Galapagos effect:

Japan has a very well-developed mobile TV system. Most of their featurephones have a 1seg receiver, which allows you to watch live TV on your phone. Because it's a broadcast system, coverage is excellent and it works well in crowded areas where 3G bandwidth would be too saturated for streaming, or on fast trains where 3G would break up.

Contactless technology is ubiquitous in Japan and works in nearly all shops, on vending machines and on public transport; It's also used for things like library cards and workplace identity passes. Their contactless system isn't compatible with NFC and so only works with Japanese phones.
>> No. 23120 Anonymous
10th September 2014
Wednesday 4:19 am
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That's impressive. In some ways, their galapagos phones seem better than smartphones.
>> No. 23122 Anonymous
10th September 2014
Wednesday 1:08 pm
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One benefit of the NTT monopoly that >>23118 mentioned is that they got this stuff early; if you're the only game in town you tend to have the resources and clout to quite quickly roll out broad new technologies. I remember being shown impressive 3D games on relatively cheap NTT DoCoMo handsets circa 2004, back when we were still pissing around with glorified versions of Snake, and I'm told they had 3G internet back in 2001. Then, as is so often the case with holders of a monopoly position, stagnation set in; a friend of mine in 2009 or so was bemoaning the fact that the phones in Japan just weren't getting any better whilst the smartphone revolution was soaring abroad, and it sounds like that transition has been pretty painful and isn't nearly over yet.
>> No. 23123 Anonymous
10th September 2014
Wednesday 2:08 pm
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Miles ahead to miles behind.

The French had a similar situation with Minitel, a computer terminal system launched by France Télécom in 1982. It was a proto-internet service, providing dial-up access to a variety of information services including banking and mail order shopping.

Takeup was massive, because the telecoms monopoly gave away the terminals for free with the expectation of recouping the cost with per-minute usage charges. This worked, and by the 1990s they were making hundreds of millions a year from Minitel; Unsurprisingly, efforts to roll out broadband were rather hampered by the fear of killing their golden goose.

Japan is doubly hampered by its weird business culture, that is hugely hostile to foreign companies and where most companies seem to behave like arthritic old monopolies. Japanese businesses are still reliant on fax machines, for crying out loud:

>> No. 23124 Anonymous
10th September 2014
Wednesday 2:54 pm
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>Faxes continue to appeal to older Japanese, who often feel uncomfortable with keyboards, experts say.
I've often wondered how much of an impact this has had on Japan, and for other similar logographic written languages that don't lend themselves naturally to computer keyboards.

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