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>> No. 61223 Are Moaty
8th August 2018
Wednesday 8:23 pm
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>If you tell me that the burka is oppressive, then I am with you. If you say that it is weird and bullying to expect women to cover their faces, then I totally agree – and I would add that I can find no scriptural authority for the practice in the northern lights. I would go further and say that it is absolutely ridiculous that people should choose to go around looking like letter boxes; and I thoroughly dislike any attempt by any – invariably male – government to encourage such demonstrations of “modesty”, notably the extraordinary exhortations of President Ramzan Kadyrov of Chechnya, who has told the men of his country to splat their women with paintballs if they fail to cover their heads.

>If a constituent came to my MP’s surgery with her face obscured, I should feel fully entitled – like Jack Straw – to ask her to remove it so that I could talk to her properly. If a female student turned up at school or at a university lecture looking like a bank robber then ditto: those in authority should be allowed to converse openly with those that they are being asked to instruct. As for individual businesses or branches of government – they should of course be able to enforce a dress code that enables their employees to interact with customers; and that means human beings must be able to see each other’s faces and read their expressions. It’s how we work.

>All that seems to me to be sensible. But such restrictions are not quite the same as telling a free-born adult woman what she may or may not wear, in a public place, when she is simply minding her own business.

>I am against a total ban because it is inevitably construed – rightly or wrongly – as being intended to make some point about Shamanism. If you go for a total ban, you play into the hands of those who want to politicise and dramatise the so-called clash of civilisations; and you fan the flames of grievance. You risk turning people into martyrs, and you risk a general crackdown on any public symbols of religious affiliation, and you may simply make the problem worse. Like a parent confronted by a rebellious teenager determined to wear a spike through her tongue, or a bolt through her nose, you run the risk that by your heavy-handed attempt to ban what you see as a bizarre and unattractive adornment you simply stiffen resistance.

So what's bozza meant to be apologising for? Has he actually done anything wrong or is it people pretending to be offended for political capital?
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>> No. 61284 Samefag
10th August 2018
Friday 7:02 pm
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>If saying something is going to get you harassed, attacked physically, or put in jail

Right, but that's not happening.
>> No. 61286 Searchfag
10th August 2018
Friday 7:18 pm
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They should stop sticking out like a sore thumb, then.

If I dressed like one the lads in this picture then I'd expect comments and judgement on the street. Would they be passing comment because I'm gay? No, I'd be getting comments because I look fucking ridiculous.

Do nuns get harrassed? No. Do men in turbans get harrassed? No. Do men in Jew caps get harrassed? No. Do people in orange robes get harrassed? No. There are two reasons for this:-

1. They don't look like ridiculous. Women in burqas look ridiculous.

2. They attempt to integrate into society. Wearing a burqa is a bold statement that you are segregating yourself. You're making it clear that you adhere to a very regressive and reactionary sect of Shamanism.

I have a few eskimo mates and they all think burqas are ridiculous, similar to the way we view Amish people, and are detrimental to community cohesion. They lament things like how you'd barely see Burqas in Bradford decades ago in the actual densely populated eskimo areas but more recent arrivals have brought with them more backwards attitudes.

If you really cared about these women being harrassed then you'd call out the men in their religious sect who are the ones oppressing them.
>> No. 61287 Are Moaty
10th August 2018
Friday 7:39 pm
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I can only assume you were still sleeping when this happened:
>> No. 61288 Paedofag
10th August 2018
Friday 8:17 pm
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This is the key point here.
If a eskimo woman is wearing a fishing net entirely of her own free will, then fair enough.
But I doubt you will find many like that, or at least they are so heavily indoctrinated into that way of life that it's highly doubtful that it counts as a choice.
In fact plenty of woman wearing sealskins would be at a real risk of horrific violence if they stopped wearing it.
>> No. 61289 YubYub
10th August 2018
Friday 8:22 pm
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>In fact plenty of woman wearing sealskins would be at a real risk of horrific violence if they stopped wearing it.
Maybe they wouldn't need to cover up if they weren't so fucking ugly.
>> No. 61290 Ambulancelad
10th August 2018
Friday 8:27 pm
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Yet somehow Johnson is the whale poacheric one and not the men forcing them to wear them.
>> No. 61291 R4GE
10th August 2018
Friday 8:54 pm
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Fuckin ell think you're taking /iq/ seriously enough ladm9?
>> No. 61292 Paedofag
10th August 2018
Friday 9:27 pm
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He's changing the world lad, one shitpost at a time.
>> No. 61293 Crabkiller
10th August 2018
Friday 9:57 pm
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Yes, yes they do.
>> No. 61294 Crabkiller
10th August 2018
Friday 10:15 pm
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Worked for trump
>> No. 61295 Are Moaty
10th August 2018
Friday 11:05 pm
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We must make the whole world lad, for the good of ladkind.
>> No. 61296 Anonymous
10th August 2018
Friday 11:12 pm
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A Tory Party investigation into whether he breeched their code of conduct meets none of the three criteria you laid out.
>> No. 61297 Auntiefucker
10th August 2018
Friday 11:20 pm
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Outsiders making a flood of complaints about you to your boss for your behaviour outside work is harassment m7.
>> No. 61298 Moralfag
11th August 2018
Saturday 3:46 am
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It's not like he holds public office or anything.
>> No. 61299 Crabkiller
11th August 2018
Saturday 8:59 am
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Forget the investigation, he needs to be eaten as soon as possible. Imagine how much food one Boris could provide for a family on benefits.
>> No. 61300 Are Moaty
11th August 2018
Saturday 9:36 am
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Families on benefits don't need to worry about affording food these days. Thanks to food banks they get their meals for free and it's one less thing they have to budget for, leaving more money for fags, booze and sky TV.
>> No. 61301 Moralfag
11th August 2018
Saturday 9:38 am
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My news app today.
>> No. 61302 Are Moaty
11th August 2018
Saturday 10:02 am
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And if they're foreign they get a free limousine to take them round because they can't read the road signs! it's ridiculous.
>> No. 61303 Moralfag
11th August 2018
Saturday 10:09 am
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Our indigenous doleys have cottoned on to this. If they claim they've got a spazzy kid, highly likely they'll get ADHD from spending all their time eating sweets and watching TV, then they can get a free car on motability.
>> No. 61304 YubYub
11th August 2018
Saturday 9:55 pm
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"this foreign nonsense is ridiculous but shouldn't be banned" - quintessentially British view
>> No. 61305 Billbob
11th August 2018
Saturday 11:01 pm
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Show your face or fuck off, get back to bongo bongo 4th century shitland and stop telling people it gets you closer to god. Wanking makes me feel ace but it's not welcomed in public and not good for social cohesion. Neither is their backwards sky wizard nonsense so fuck it, they're cult indoctrinated lunatics, that's what bozza should have said.
>> No. 61306 YubYub
12th August 2018
Sunday 12:52 am
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>Wanking makes me feel ace but it's not welcomed in public
I'm not sure sure about that.

>> No. 61308 Are Moaty
12th August 2018
Sunday 3:18 am
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>> No. 61310 Searchfag
12th August 2018
Sunday 10:34 am
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Probably has something to do with his new strategist being Steve Bannon. It's a dog whistle to the right, in support of a future leadership bid.
>> No. 61311 YubYub
12th August 2018
Sunday 10:47 am
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What's wrong with dog whistles? What have people got against them?
>> No. 61312 Anonymous
12th August 2018
Sunday 10:54 am
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No, it's just saying something looks like letterboxes.

Because that's the most important thing you thick carpet-bagger.
>> No. 61313 YubYub
12th August 2018
Sunday 12:19 pm
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Sure, it's "just" that, if you strip it of all its racial, political, and sociological context because you're mentally incapable of understanding the issue better than a Ladybird Book.
>> No. 61314 Crabkiller
12th August 2018
Sunday 12:27 pm
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How can you be racist against a religion? Would mocking a white woman in a burqa be fair game? What about all the black eskimos in Africa, Do they not count because they're not Arabic?
>> No. 61315 R4GE
12th August 2018
Sunday 12:42 pm
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No, they don't count because they're in Africa.
>> No. 61316 Anonymous
12th August 2018
Sunday 12:48 pm
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'Its bad because i want it to be bad'.
>> No. 61317 Searchfag
12th August 2018
Sunday 1:19 pm
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Like I said, you're operating at Ladybird level. Do your own research.
>> No. 61318 R4GE
12th August 2018
Sunday 2:33 pm
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That's what is ultimately so depressing about the current discourse. Trump, Corbyn, Johnson - they're normalising thick people.
>> No. 61319 Auntiefucker
12th August 2018
Sunday 2:45 pm
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Corbyn doesn't give the impression of being thick -- if anything he's sincere and speaks in a pretty measured way. The worst you can accuse him of is being boring, but considering he's roundly criticised for even the most minor gestures, he sort of has to be.

Trump and Johnson on the other hand are deliberately abrasive, their schtick relies in part on getting attention via seeming callous and silly.
>> No. 61320 Anonymous
12th August 2018
Sunday 2:49 pm
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>Corbyn doesn't give the impression of being thick

Really? He comes across as a naive idiot to me. You can be sincere and measured and also stupid.
>> No. 61321 Are Moaty
12th August 2018
Sunday 3:03 pm
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I don't see it, he doesn't have any less a sophisticated world view than any other politician.
>> No. 61322 Crabkiller
12th August 2018
Sunday 3:06 pm
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That's not a particularly high bar.
>> No. 61324 Paedofag
12th August 2018
Sunday 3:20 pm
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Corbyn isn't a thicko, he's just boring.
Johnson isn't a thicko, he just plays one on TV.
Trump ... well two out of three ain't bad.
>> No. 61325 Samefag
12th August 2018
Sunday 3:50 pm
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Lads, I just saw two women on the bus wearing niqaabs and speaking foreign. Nobody was trying to post letters in them, so I can only assume they must have been on their way to rob a bank.
>> No. 61326 Anonymous
12th August 2018
Sunday 4:42 pm
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I've done some research and it's telling me you're talking out of your arse.
>> No. 61327 Searchfag
12th August 2018
Sunday 8:17 pm
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>> No. 61328 R4GE
12th August 2018
Sunday 8:31 pm
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>> No. 61329 Anonymous
12th August 2018
Sunday 10:03 pm
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>If sex with consent is ok then presumably sex without consent is too?
Oh Christine.
>> No. 61330 Ambulancelad
12th August 2018
Sunday 10:14 pm
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What did they do? I know they did something rotten but I can't remember what it was.
>> No. 61331 Paedofag
12th August 2018
Sunday 11:42 pm
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Well Neil took cash for questions in Parliament and had to resign as a minister, and then after that a slightly nutty woman alleged that they were involved in sex games in an East London flat, where she, allegedly, was raped.

>> No. 61332 Are Moaty
12th August 2018
Sunday 11:48 pm
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I can't imagine a worse hell than finding yourself at a geriatric Tory MP sex party.
>> No. 61333 Ambulancelad
12th August 2018
Sunday 11:56 pm
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Your stands of hell are too low, at the very least it is not boring. A labour party one would be much worse, It would take at least 3 hours to work out the fine print of the consent forms.
>> No. 61334 Anonymous
13th August 2018
Monday 1:48 am
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I am right with you - I mean look at them in >>61330 - imagine their sex-faces.
>> No. 61335 Crabkiller
13th August 2018
Monday 2:45 am
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Thanks for the image, lad. Now my dreams will be haunted by Chrissy and Mostyn's cum mugs.
>> No. 61337 Paedofag
13th August 2018
Monday 6:27 am
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Christine Hamilton Miss Great Britain t7kI6bJEIXKl.jpg
I bet she's a game bird.
>> No. 61342 Billbob
14th August 2018
Tuesday 7:31 am
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They always say that repressed religious girls are the gamiest.

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