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>> No. 61773 Anonymous
25th October 2018
Thursday 12:12 pm
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Poppy outrage seems to be starting earlier each year.
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>> No. 61778 Searchfag
25th October 2018
Thursday 7:51 pm
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Best part is everyone who took part in the great war is dead now so we can be as tacky as we like and the rags can't report that veterans are 'bewildered', and they "think it is utterly distasteful ...that you came into my retirement home to harass me for a sound bite".
>> No. 61781 Billbob
25th October 2018
Thursday 8:28 pm
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This is a Daily Mail wet dream. Vacuous student union president wants to paint over a mural honouring students who went to fight in the first world war and never returned because it's too white and male.

>> No. 61782 Anonymous
25th October 2018
Thursday 8:42 pm
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Her being a rich white bred professional protester twat this annoys me no end
>"after she was accused of abusing the free speech the soldiers fought and died to protect!"

>"Southampton MP Royston Smith, who served in the RAF for ten years, said the SU president's tweet was 'disappointing' considering the soldiers were defending the free speech which she was exercising."

Does the Mail not actually know the motivations and causes of the first world war or do they just not care, and hope no one notices what war they are talking about?
>> No. 61784 Crabkiller
25th October 2018
Thursday 10:09 pm
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sAYING THEY fought and died because everyone else at the pub signed up that day rather downplays it a bit. It was such a tragic war, there's no pride in it. Everything about it just makes me sad. Also why is everyone who enters student politics so evidently mentally disturbed? Should send them to the front line tbh.
>> No. 61785 YubYub
25th October 2018
Thursday 10:29 pm
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It feels really wierd not to hate something I read in the mail, but I actually really like the angle they've taken of pointing out her privileged upbringing. That's exactly the sort of way these people should be dealt with, the most intolerable of these cunts are invariably hypocrites.

Besides that, wealth inequality is the one form of social justice we should actively be pushing for (because it would fundamentally fix everything else too), and highlighting it where bints like her are concerned might help the penny drop for a few more of the me too brigade.
>> No. 61786 Anonymous
25th October 2018
Thursday 10:34 pm
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It was the exact opposite about 10 years ago, they were all middle manager types with no ideology. I've had it said before here that the student union mirrors the labour party of the time, and I have to say as far as I can tell this assessment is right.

I wouldn't know how to engage these kinds of people politically to me all of their ideas seem naive, half-baked and making it life or death issues that fundamentally I think are so trivial as to not matter. I am a white male so I'm sure that is just my sanity privilege talking.

>> No. 61787 YubYub
25th October 2018
Thursday 11:15 pm
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Counter articles in the Graun coming soon about how she has been subjected to threats and isn't safe anymore.

Its sort of strange to look through the outrage and think that she's just a young woman who won't be in a great place right now, especially seeing as she has depression (assuming she doesn't use that and being bi for points in Oppression Top Trumps).

Maybe what she could really do with tonight is a cuppa, a warm bath, a cuddle and someone who would have a little chew on her hairy bumhole.
>> No. 61788 R4GE
25th October 2018
Thursday 11:33 pm
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>Its sort of strange to look through the outrage and think that she's just a young woman who won't be in a great place right now

The young insane "they don't know any better" students of today, are the obnoxious ignorant power brokers of tomorrow.

If her depression is really so bad as to make her vunerable and sensitive to criticism that she can't be properly held accountable for her actions she probably shouldn't be in a position of control and power.
>> No. 61789 Samefag
25th October 2018
Thursday 11:42 pm
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Britta's the worst.
>> No. 61790 Samefag
26th October 2018
Friday 2:04 am
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She's fucking repulsive.
>> No. 61791 Billbob
26th October 2018
Friday 2:16 am
61791 2good4/iq/
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First of all I think we have to recontextualise Emily's daft tweet so we can empathise more easily with her. By which I mean who among us hasn't gone off on one, or said something silly, in the middle of a cunt off on here? Even if you're unrepentant about it, you've probably done it.

Secondly, is the froathing outrage at the idea of getting rid of the mural not just as pathetic as the idea of getting rid of it in the first place? If someone said they could fix my boiler, which isn't broken, by sawing it in half, I wouldn't feel enraged, I'd feel confident that I understand the issue far better than they do and calmly tell them "no, thanks" and move on from the pointless suggestion.

Thirdly, and here's only bit of this that really annoys me, is this sodding hitjob about her monied background. I'm not saying it's not a factor in her worldview, but the way in which the Mail spins it shows them clearly using this as propaganda to slur anyone remotely left wing as a "champagne socialist". Pic related was attached to the article and to my eyes looks entirely sensible, but my assumption is the DM stuck it in there in order to tie these reasonable requests to a fringe suggestion that was dead on arrival. As to how her background effects that worldview, she strikes me as someone who went through her first two decades of life not realising poor people and bad things existed, but now she does she thinks she has all the answers on how to stop every problem ever, but her insular student union discussions probably aren't exposing these ideas to any proper rigour. I'm not saying I support her views, but she's hardly the far-left she-devil the Mail wants her to be. Elsewhere on her Twitter she's supported her local outdoor market, taken against Takeshi69's history as a carpet-bagger being ignored and most recently attended a jargon heavy but ultimately very mature, if slightly one sided, sounding debate about like, being black, and things.

I could literally go on forever, but no one's read this and I'm not being paid.

>she probably shouldn't be in a position of control and power.
She's hardly powerful at all, as not many people seem at all interested painting over the mural and it clearly won't happen now. The Mail mysteriously cropped out all the info at the bottom of the Tweets about how many comments, retweets and likes it had gotten though, so I can't tell you how supportive the students of Soton Uni were. I doubt many even knew it was happening, see Manchester Uni's "clapping ban". Right now Emily gets up to five likes per Tweet, and that's post Daily Mail promotion, hardly enough to march on Parliament.

All of this just reinforces my belief that Twitter is the worse website in the world.
>> No. 61792 YubYub
26th October 2018
Friday 2:22 am
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The difference between doing that here and doing it publicly as part of an office you hold is vast.

To use the parlance of our times, we're a safe space for going off on one here. I don't particularly disagree with you about here just being young and daft, but by the time I was her age I knew not to be tweeting this sort of stuff.
>> No. 61793 Auntiefucker
26th October 2018
Friday 2:33 am
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>The difference between doing that here and doing it publicly as part of an office you hold is vast.

I agree, but it's clearly the same impulse, just more so. Do you think I should shoot her a private message with a link here then?
>> No. 61794 Moralfag
26th October 2018
Friday 2:37 am
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It can't hurt. I think we tried to get Stephen Fry on here when he melted down and deleted his twitter years ago.
>> No. 61795 YubYub
26th October 2018
Friday 6:01 am
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It's a hobby that takes very little actual talent. Want to learn the guitar? It takes skill and years of practice. Want to get into student politics? You don't even need to learn anything, you just need to make half-baked statements based on emotion rather than reason about nebulous topics. Anyone who disagrees with you can be dismissed as being whatever boogeyman you want to rail against. It's a very lazy and minimal effort way to Feel righteous and morally superior.
>> No. 61796 Are Moaty
26th October 2018
Friday 10:29 am
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Everyone I know who got into student politics is a cunt with a chip on their shoulder.
>> No. 61797 Samefag
26th October 2018
Friday 11:34 am
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>Poppy Tree

Talk about overkill.
>> No. 61798 Anonymous
26th October 2018
Friday 11:46 am
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To be fair, it's not as overkill as the actual war itself.
>> No. 61799 Paedofag
26th October 2018
Friday 12:38 pm
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People are mad because it looks like a Christmas tree. It probably is the laziest tree to do; it's just a cone.
>> No. 61800 Auntiefucker
26th October 2018
Friday 5:25 pm
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Are Emily has been placed on leave, apparently she sent unsolicited nudes of herself to a WhatsApp group. £20k for a student union job? Talk about money for old rope.
>> No. 61801 Ambulancelad
26th October 2018
Friday 5:37 pm
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Yes lads, it was a crack about how many dead lads you need to get enough poppies for a tree.
>> No. 61802 Paedofag
26th October 2018
Friday 5:41 pm
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Lad. That's not the crack we're interested in anymore.

>> No. 61803 YubYub
26th October 2018
Friday 9:31 pm
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I've seen the photos at the other place.
You really wouldn't.
>> No. 61804 YubYub
26th October 2018
Friday 11:10 pm
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Well thank goodness a young woman who said something daft is having her life torn to bits, I really can't sleep soundly unless the total amount of misery in the world has increased over a 24 hour period.
>> No. 61805 Samefag
26th October 2018
Friday 11:13 pm
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She should've thought about that before she posted it.
>> No. 61806 Paedofag
27th October 2018
Saturday 12:34 am
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I bet she'd be screaming for a white man to get fired if he'd said anything deemed offensive.
>> No. 61807 Paedofag
27th October 2018
Saturday 12:45 am
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This. It's the inevitable consequence of what happens when the bubble you're living in comes into contact with the real world.

If you haven't realised by the age of 20 that it isn't wise to post something inflammatory a couple of weeks before armistice Day from a work related Twitter account then there isn't much hope for you. Oh well, I'm sure the daughter of millionaires will somehow manage to cope.
>> No. 61808 Paedofag
27th October 2018
Saturday 1:02 am
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The Mail and Telegraph reported this story in order to push their narrative and make people talk about it ad nauseum, but we saw through their little game instantly. We were far too smart to waste our time generating sound and fury by hashing out the same tired discussion points. Well done lads.
>> No. 61809 YubYub
27th October 2018
Saturday 1:14 am
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You do understand it's Poppy outrage time of year, don't you?
>> No. 61810 Moralfag
27th October 2018
Saturday 1:34 am
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It's also make a fool of yourself by shitting on it time of year.
>> No. 61811 Billbob
27th October 2018
Saturday 7:45 am
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Welcome to /iq/, adventurer.
>> No. 61812 R4GE
27th October 2018
Saturday 8:01 am
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The greater irony of all this is that it's this kind of reaction to stepping out of line over Poppy-geddon day that has people buying White Poppies and looking sideways at the British Legion, which causes further hysterical keyboard smashing from the kind of people who are upset about this story.

The suggestion that it's okay to rip into someone's entire life because they were grossly wrong about something is fucking horrendous, far more so than anything she posted. If this sort of thing continues to be deemed an appropriate response to dissent then we might as well adopt China's Social Credit System and be done with the pretense. "You were ignorant about the First World War several weeks prior to Armistice Day? Enjoy perpetual unemployment and we'll be emailing these nude photos you took to your dad for the next 18 months."

Oh, this old chestnut, the idea that if my opposite thinks something is fine, I don't care if something like that happens to them. If that's where your standards lie then why care in the first place? You clearly concede you have no ethics or morals of your own.
>> No. 61813 Samefag
27th October 2018
Saturday 8:14 am
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Heaven forbid someone makes a monumental arse out of themselves and they get the piss taken out of them.
>> No. 61814 R4GE
27th October 2018
Saturday 8:31 am
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It's not just having the piss taken now is it? It's a witch hunt on a grand scale.
>> No. 61815 YubYub
27th October 2018
Saturday 8:57 am
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What exactly is disproportionate about the response?
>> No. 61816 Auntiefucker
27th October 2018
Saturday 9:11 am
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It's an official communication channel of an organisation, and she's used it to post personal views.
Any employer can class that as gross misconduct now, and they would have classed it as gross misconduct twenty years ago.

This is the problem with Twitter, it's so instantaneous that anyone can post something to a company or organisations twitter account with no chance for either themselves or another staff member to have a second thought.

See also, Thameslink mentioning poundland in a derogatory way in a really poor attempt at a joke.
Years ago this would never have happened, in 2018 you've got some incompetent kid with a media studies degree thrust into the position of writing communications with the company name at the top which could be seen by millions.
>> No. 61817 Are Moaty
27th October 2018
Saturday 10:20 am
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Where in the repercussions for "gross misconduct" does it say it's ok for a twitter mob to start sending revenge porn to her family?
>> No. 61818 Billbob
27th October 2018
Saturday 11:25 am
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Nobody here is advocating that. Keep your goalposts where they are.
>> No. 61819 Searchfag
27th October 2018
Saturday 12:52 pm
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>What exactly is disproportionate about the response?
The twitter mob and revenge porn was part of the response. Goalposts are firmly where they were to begin with. You're being intentionally disingenuous.
>> No. 61820 Anonymous
27th October 2018
Saturday 1:28 pm
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>See also, Thameslink mentioning poundland in a derogatory way in a really poor attempt at a joke.
To be fair this isn't just incompetence, it's also often conscious strategy.
See: All the big fast-food chains trying to make their twitter accounts into characters. So Wendy's does sassy replies, Burger King and Pizza Hut fight, and whatever. It's all very unprofessional and ugly and stupid but it makes for effective advertising by keeping those companies on people's minds. For all those reasons I think we should stone the people who came up with it.
>> No. 61821 YubYub
27th October 2018
Saturday 3:33 pm
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I don't understand why anyone would defend her or the response to it. her actions beget the response.
>> No. 61822 Paedofag
27th October 2018
Saturday 3:42 pm
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It's because it's been reported by the likes of the Daily Mail. We've got some warped cognitive dissonance on display.
>> No. 61823 Anonymous
27th October 2018
Saturday 4:33 pm
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So you agree that she deserves to be hounded by an angry mob while people illegally use her nudes to shame her and harass her family?
>> No. 61824 Anonymous
27th October 2018
Saturday 4:35 pm
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She shared them publicly, so resharing them isn't illegal.
>> No. 61825 Anonymous
27th October 2018
Saturday 4:38 pm
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Petitions to lose her job after she's brought her employer into disrepute. The absolute horror.
>> No. 61826 Moralfag
27th October 2018
Saturday 5:27 pm
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I don't see why not.
>> No. 61827 Paedofag
27th October 2018
Saturday 6:04 pm
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No. This isn't justice, this is mobbing. It wasn't right that it happened to Justine Sacco, to Quinn Norton, Kevin Williams, Bari Weiss or Roseanne Barr or any of the multitude of people a few minutes googling will turn up and it's not right that it's happening to her.
>> No. 61828 Paedofag
27th October 2018
Saturday 6:06 pm
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What evidence is there of this supposed mobbing? Does the fact other people are being cunts mean we can't point out she's being a dozy cunt?
>> No. 61829 Paedofag
27th October 2018
Saturday 6:23 pm
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we're doing it here so it's irrelevant, but everyone on twitter feels the need go go and repeat what's already been said, even though it adds nothing.

all it would've taken is one person on twitter calling her a cunt, but no, now half the readership of the daily mail feels the need to hurl that insight at her which is far out of proportion to what she actually did, unless we're going to hound everyone who mouths off on twitter. (if we're gonna do that we should pay people, that'd get rid of unemployment in one quick piece of legislation.)
>> No. 61830 Samefag
27th October 2018
Saturday 7:05 pm
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That applies to pretty much everything on Twitter.
>> No. 61831 Paedofag
27th October 2018
Saturday 8:05 pm
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It's not a matter of justice.
>> No. 61833 Samefag
27th October 2018
Saturday 8:22 pm
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It's certainly not and that's the problem. Somehow this is escaping you.
>> No. 61837 YubYub
27th October 2018
Saturday 8:44 pm
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She said a stupid thing and is getting heat for it.

That's fine by me.
>> No. 61838 Paedofag
27th October 2018
Saturday 8:51 pm
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It's a bit bollocks when a national newspaper is directing people to give a student heat, something they know will happen and do regardless.
>but she's a representative, that makes her fair game!
she's the kind of representative parish councillors call a nonentity. it's still the most popular newspaper in the UK bullying a random student and nudging others to do likewise.
>> No. 61842 YubYub
27th October 2018
Saturday 9:38 pm
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Don't dish it if you can't take it. Nobody asked her to publicly state she wanted to paint over a mural commemorating students who went off to fight in the first world war because she found it too pale, stale and male.
>> No. 61843 Crabkiller
27th October 2018
Saturday 9:53 pm
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What did she 'dish out' exactly? You make it sound like she was attacking someone and can't handle the return fire, when in reality she made a political statement and is getting personal abuse for it. That's very much not the same thing.

It was a fucking stupid idea she had and it's utterly tedious, but the response certain corners of the internet are having to her is very embarrassing.
>> No. 61844 Anonymous
27th October 2018
Saturday 9:58 pm
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She said a stupid thing and as a result may end up psychologically scarred for years to come, as well as all the other fallout. It's not a small thing and I'm not being hyperbolic, it destroys lives and careers in an incredibly disproportionate manner. This is well documented.
>> No. 61845 YubYub
27th October 2018
Saturday 10:02 pm
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Can't say I give a shit really.
>> No. 61846 Samefag
27th October 2018
Saturday 10:03 pm
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She's not random at all, in fact the reasons why she's on the receiving end are quite particular to her specifically.
>> No. 61847 YubYub
28th October 2018
Sunday 2:27 pm
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she's such a nonentity that it all fades into background noise, making her effectively random amongst non-entities singled out for a few day's hate.
>> No. 61848 R4GE
28th October 2018
Sunday 2:46 pm
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Says you, he who seeks only to shout about how evil the DM is at any given time.
>> No. 61849 Are Moaty
28th October 2018
Sunday 3:48 pm
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who appointed you soothsayer? take your discount telepathy and fuck off.
>> No. 61850 Moralfag
28th October 2018
Sunday 4:00 pm
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fuck off emily you fat cunt
>> No. 61851 Searchfag
28th October 2018
Sunday 4:03 pm
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I think he might actually be a white knight.
>> No. 61888 Crabkiller
7th November 2018
Wednesday 5:48 pm
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Disrespecting are brave boys by pouring bubble bath into a waterfall memorial.

>> No. 61889 Samefag
7th November 2018
Wednesday 7:16 pm
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It could have been a moving tribute if only they had dyed it red.
>> No. 61907 Are Moaty
8th November 2018
Thursday 12:02 am
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Or just died.

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