This is a bit ridiculous isn't it? Penalising people with degrees.

Is it worth just lying on my CV and saying I don't have a degree? Anyway they can find out? What would be the best way to do it?

>>13507

Is it an apprenticeship or vocational scheme? In which case they only get funding for providing education to people who don't already have it.

>>13507

Would you turn up at a food bank and lie when your cupboards at home were full?

>>13507
I don't think it is ridiculous when their stated mission is to help people without degrees - why should you jump the queue when you've already had that opportunity?

>>13529
>than paying the IT guys a bit of overtime

a) They're probably not paying the IT guys any overtime and b) it's easier to test upgrades and find out that it hasn't worked, when everyone is in the office.

>>13530
The company I worked for before used the exact same systems and all IT updates were done out of hours without a hitch. By my reckoning the upgrades this morning will have cost at least 150 man hours in lost work.

There's someone in my team who just absolutely loves the sound of their own voice; it's not just that they will ramble on, they'll actively find excuses to ramble on and on and on, spending 20 minutes to make a 30 second point.

>>13512

I'm tempted to "forget" to add my organisation's stipulated email footer, just because I work on a shared inbox, and people tend to type my name from the footer in the To: field instead of hitting reply and maintaining the email chain. Then they get all pissy when I don't reply to them within a minute because the important stuff should go to the shared inbox, which is prioritised accordingly. They seem to be under the impression that doing it the other way is some sort of shortcut to a blue chip personal service. What I actually do is snarl and ignore it until I've cleared my quota.

Side rant: I understand that Learning & Development is subset of HR in most organisations, but where I work it's important enough to be a separate department. This distinction is made clear wherever possible - on the intranet, the shared inbox email address, and every time I answer the phone - so how the fuck do I keep getting queries about Payroll, Temporary Staffing, Hierarchy changes and even IT helpdesk requests?

>>13532 Just talk over the fucker. Nobody will complain.

>>13523
Oh don't leave us hanging like that.

WHAT ARE YOUR CRIMES?

>>13524

I slept with the receptionist's wife (the receptionist was male, extremely popular, and he kept working there for at least five years after I left).

>>13517
Chances are they don't have the details and nobody from the last time still works there.

>>13526
I wouldn't say nobody from 18 years ago is still there. It could be very likely that the middle aged business support type is still there.

>>13527
If they've been there that long, they'll probably see you for the massive ledge you are.

>>13505
Depends on your reasoning I suppose. If it helps, 'm signed on and used to do care work and now understandably there's a lot of care work available. Unfortunately I'm staying with my parents for the time being who fall in the at risk higher age range, which I explained to the person who called me and that any other time I'd be happy to take such a job, but I'm not risking my parents health when care homes are nightmares right now. She seemed to understand and they haven't pushed anything since, that was a few weeks ago now.

Lmao.

>>13514
I've done fuck all and so far they've said nothing. Presuming it's just because so many people are using it right now that you can't check what everybody's doing.

>>13515
Let's be honest, next year the news is going to be full of outraged headlines around how many people/companies lied about being on furlough, and how many restaurants magically sold 1000 meals a day on Rishi's scheme.

>>13481
You can still contact the employer. If they don't know otherwise you can always tell them "I've just seen this ad, is anyone around to talk about it?"

>>13481
Which bit of the application are you struggling with?

The CV or the covering letter?

>>13483

It's not that I'm struggling, it's just a high-end application (40k per year academic/scientific job) that I'd really like to get as good as humanly possible.

>>13484
Slip in a £5 note in the application.

>>13471
> Sadly they don't work if you work for US company while living outside the US.

I'm double guessing myself there, I think. Technically if you live in the UK and work for a US company then you're self employed in the UK. Although you'd probably have to at least set up a limited company and pay yourself a proper PAYE wage in order to swing this visa, which is all very painful.

>>13471
You wouldn't be working for a US company while living outside the US. You'd be carrying out work for your UK company while temporarily in the US.

>>13473

Technically I'm "paid" by a US based consulting company and I declare taxes in the UK as self-employed. Would that be a good enough excuse to get a "B in lieu of H" visa?

I feel like showing up to the consulate and saying you're self employed in the UK and going to work for a US company for a few weeks unlikely to go over well and that you'd have more luck if you had a proper limited company with PAYE payroll set up.

>>13474
>saying you're self employed in the UK and going to work for a US company for a few weeks unlikely to go over well

It really does not. The only issues I've ever had at the US border was when I was in this situation. It was bona fide too, my company in the UK had employees, accounts, etc; we were doing a couple of weeks work on an installation - temporary - but it's the only time I got stopped at the border and then taken off to an interview room. Terrible and frightening.

>>13475

If you're going over on a visa waiver you should just say you're visiting a client, it's never failed me in maybe a dozen work trips (knock on wood). It's a really stupid grey area where meetings are fine but actually doing work that money is changing hands for requires a work visa.

Or if you're really paranoid just go in via Las Vegas and get a connecting flight the next day. Just try not to max out your entire expense budget on blackjack and the drugs every damn cab driver will oh so subtly hint they can get you.

>>13445

We're a small organisation (around 10 staff) so we don't have a proper HR department, and to be honest I dunno if I would be comfortable telling them about this.

How would I be exposing myself to risk if I ignore it?

>>13444
>I'm tempted to text her letting her know that she's applied for a job I'm hiring for, but I'm worried that this would be inappropriate and could get me in trouble.

lol

Arrange the job interview at a restaurant or other date setting. Two birds with one stone.

>>13446

If you give her the job, you could be accused of favouritism. If you don't give her the job, you could be accused of spite. If she gets the job and an issue crops up down the road, whatever contact you had with her on the dating app could be used as evidence of your amorous/malicious intent.

Just tell your boss. As soon as you tell your boss, it's his problem, not yours. It might be mildly embarrassing, but it'll be far more embarrassing if it comes out later and it looks like you were hiding something.

>>13449
Not the OP, but I get the feeling that if she doesn't get the job she won't complain.

>>13418

I think that's everyone's experience. It's one of those things everyone has probably noticed by just knows you're supposed to brush over in any context requiring PC.

My work was in the situation a few years ago where me and another lad were the only males, to 8 or 9 females. The rest of the lasses actively requested that in future they try to hire more lads, because the catiness was getting so severe. It's mad that it's something they even recognised themselves but were incapable of just... Not being.

>>13419
I couldn't care less at this point. I'm a corporate drone, if they dimple or dangle makes little difference to how much I detest filling in the TPS reports... err, ticking off my SSADM blocks... err, [s]story points[s]... err, commenting enough on the corporate GitHub? >>13409 yes.

They are all playing the same game.

>>13420
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>>13417
>>13418
>>13419
I reckon it's just playground antics bubbling up into adulthood. As a lad I might have a (professional) dust-up with someone one day and the next we'll have a laugh over a pint, women meanwhile go into long-simmering psychological conflicts. I'm stereotyping here but I reckon women could do with corporate training in how to properly conduct monkey business.

Still, while a lad team works well I find a male-dominated office somehow lacking something that is difficult to describe. Women have this calming effect and, in general, stop you from living like a caveman.

>>13422

>>13396
Typical adult gamer, expecting others to take care of his own responsibilities.

>>13394

Why not just run a keylogger on your laptop, and temporarily block her phone from the internet on your router so she's forced to use your computer for a couple of days? You'll probably get facebook, insta, maybe even a bank account or two.

>>13399
Why would I want access to her bank account? That'd be crossing a line.

>>13400

I'm not saying you would, just that you could.

Useful for tracking where she's been, though.

>>13396

I feel you.

I upgraded my system a couple of months ago, and the most fun I've actually had with it is the first couple of weeks where I was repeatedly running benchmarks, swapping out the fans, and tweaking the fan curves to see how quiet I could make it without getting into throttling territory.

Still undecided if the pair of 140mm fans I had in the front before were better than the higher spec 120mm ones I have in now, because I feel like they blow a bit too exclusively at the GPU and starve the CPU radiator a bit. If I was to swap them and test it out, I could easily waste a week tinkering without booting up a single game.

>>13230

What was your function onboard?

>>13370
physical correspondence technician

>>13371
You mean you were a postboy?

>>13372
No, those are the employees without a degree in Communications.

>>13372

He jests but there are postmen on some cruise ships that wear a special uniform and everything.

Maybe he's the head postman.

Think of the good and bad qualities you have observed in your own managers over the years. Shape your behaviour accordingly.

Personally, I think the most important quality is to be that manager who just gets things done. People will put up with a range of personalities and management styles so long as they know that if they come to you with anything, it'll get sorted and sorted fast.

I've only managed a shop full of spod teenagers, unless you count running a band as a form of management, but I can only say this:

Manage pragmatically.

By that I mean, don't be that cunt who expects people to just try harder because you tell them to, or expect them to deliver deadlines because you said so. That isn't how people work and never will be in a million billion years. What you instead have to do is give tasks to the people who are most likely to do them, you have to give people the jobs they hate the least, that sort of thing. Your job is minimising friction, not cracking the whip.

The best sort of managers are the ones who are good at observing their people and sussing out what their actual strengths and weaknesses are, and working around it with a bit of give and take. The worst sort of managers are the ones who prioritise petty bullshit like reprimanding someone for being five minutes late, over expending their effort on something that actually makes a difference to your team's outcomes.

>>13360

>So what is it teachers hate so much about being teachers?

80% of them are dossers and inadequates who can't really cope with the real world. Like OP, they had no real desire to teach, they just fell into it because they had a middling degree and no real plan or ambition for what they want to do in life. Some of them do figure it out and fuck off after a couple of years, but some of them get stuck and become increasingly frustrated and embittered.

The remaining 20% are genuinely passionate about teaching, but they're stuck in a totally dysfunctional environment with a bunch of people who don't really give a shit.

>>13352

I find the career teacher a very weird idea. You go through primary secondary college and university and back to school. It seems like an insidious loop where at no point are you exposed to the 'outside world'. And I mean that in the least snobbish way. But if you have no understanding of what the world is like for people outside the institution how could you possibly prepare people for it?


I probably have a personal bias of hating piss poor teaching and a concern of it fucking peoples futures up. My education at school was shit. The secondary school I was at is being disbanded. And as a personal act of vengeance on my application to colleges one of the teachers wrote the single line statement 'not suitable for A-levels'. I dropped out of IT before GCSE at said school and now work as a developer something I discovered by accident I had a passion and talent for and had to self teach long after formal education. So please OP don't become a teacher unless you actually give a shit about improving Children's chances in life.

Facebook wants me to teach, apparently.

OP here.

To fill out my profile a little more, I'm an overqualified bar manager, having worked up from the bar staff job I got at Uni. While I appreciate teaching may be shit, from my perspective I already care for children; just intoxicated ones who somehow still retain the franchise.
I hate my job, replacing it with a higher paying job I may hate equally really isn't much of a problem for me.

Thanks for the advice lads, having talked it over IRL I've decided to still get this application in, but keeping an eye on other opportunities.

I've put up with worse.

>>13365
Good luck lad - hope it works out for you and you should pursue what makes you tick.

That said, is there nothing else that tickles your fancy?

>>13344

I think you've got the nail on the head there, mate. I'm currently doing my Master's full-time but found the hours to
also work part time 50%, and am just about making ends meet. Though I live in an "interesting" city, I really haven't had much of a chance to enjoy it since blowing through my savings.

There's something especially suffocating about a lack of money, knowing you can't even pop into a cafe and get a coffee.

Problem is, my field is really very much concentrated in London. The London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine is something of a Mecca for my kind of research, though there is also Oxford and Liverpool.

>>13344

StAndrews is ludicrously expensive to live in considering it's in the arse end of nowhere. All foreign money and tourism and student housing demands piled into one tiny town.

It's tax free mate.

>>13345
It does say something and I agree. I moved from a very cosy 30k job in the north where I had a huge flat, a car, and I was bored every weekend. Nothing really happens that stimulated me in the same way it does here. Also, if you're in your 20s, no kids, and can wait a few years to settle into mundane boredom where the neighbours getting an unsightly new door colour is the big talk then what do you have to lose by trying it?

In many ways despite earning more money, my quality of life has shrunk massively, but I'm still happier and London is popular for a reason as I said. These people aren't desperate to get to Doncaster.

I don't want to turn this into a London cunt off but I spent years avoiding London because of the same types of comments I'd see online like in this thread that made me feel I'd be miserable and unhappy. It's the complete opposite, £1.50 on a bus and there's always something happening.

I'm soon gonna be hitting that 50k+ mark and i know for a fact I would dream of hitting it in my 40s if I was not in London, so you have to factor in that cost of living accounts for the fact there are many more high paid jobs.

Lad - get on spareroom, ask on /r/askuk for other PHD students doing similar and see what it realistically looks like and be honest with yourself about what sort of luxuries you can and can't live without.

>>13350
> Also, if you're in your 20s, no kids, and can wait a few years to settle into mundane boredom where the neighbours getting an unsightly new door colour is the big talk then what do you have to lose by trying it?

Absolutely. Having been born there I always encouraged people to give London a try at least once in their 20s but (at least for me) once I hit my thirties and became a bit of a boring cunt the cost/benefit ratio stopped paying off. I was happier to have a bit more money in my pocket and be able to spend it on eating out and foreign travel.

>>13349

If it's tax free then it's plausible if you flatshare and scrimp a bit as others have said. Good luck, lad.

>>13330
This strategy worked for me. Did it twice in the past 18 months, and clearly things weren't working. Got 20% going into the first, 10% out of there and into the second, and 25% out of there and into somewhere decent. Throw in the raise I received in the job I had before that, and in two years my pay has gone up 65%.

>>13331
That'll learn you for trying to help people.

>>13331
As someone who worked in the NHS in a very much not frontline area, pay is a perennial problem. Management would wonder why the we were always suffering the same old problems that were getting us constantly slated. The thought that pay points were pathetic compared to the market and therefore the only people suitably qualified that were applying were internal candidates. Anyone that was actually competent was leaving.

>>13330>>13332
Yeah, in our line of work you can easily change jobs every few years without it hurting your CV at all - improving it even. The problem comes as you get older, have families, and don't feel like jumping on the recruitment merry-go-round every two years.

>>13329
Thanks. Between 2010 and 2015 my pay only went up from £15,000 to £20,000 but since then it has more than doubled. It's amazing what difference a bit of experience and self belief can do.