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>> No. 11095 Anonymous
19th February 2017
Sunday 11:44 pm
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I'm mostly set on going to university this year come September, but I'm not sure if it's the sensible choice.
My initial decision came from sticking out minimum wage work for a bit and deciding "this is bullshit", so I'm looking to go study Engineering. I've been spending the year getting the required maths qualifications (and finding out I'm actually not bad at maths when I apply myself (I even enjoy it)) so I'm all set for it and have offers.

Is it a sensible choice? I'm 27 now, I want to have something for myself when I'm 30 and I figure a useful degree would be a good start. I've considered trying to get promoted up the chain in something (or even my current part time fast food job) but thinking about it I'd probably take as long to manage that as I would take in getting myself a degree - but with none of the international recognition a useful degree could give me. Or job satisfaction. Or anything really, aside from an income.

Ultimately I'm interested in getting a degree because education makes me fulfilled, and because it could offer more of an escape route if the UK continues descending into a Tory hellscape. Even just seeing the uni fees compared to when I had finished my A-Levels is unnerving.

Realistically though are there other options I could explore before I start finalising plans?
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>> No. 11096 Anonymous
20th February 2017
Monday 7:11 am
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Don't do Engineering! Already Chinese occupy half of positions and they are pumping out 200k graduates a year more than they need. You will find your time and money wasted, I am afraid. Source: half my mates are engineers.

Do a degree, sure but go for a humanities or science subject that really interests you. And look to study in Europe. The fees range from 500 quid a term to you actually being paid to study there. Courses taught in English, obviously.
>> No. 11097 Anonymous
20th February 2017
Monday 7:57 am
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>Realistically though are there other options I could explore before I start finalising plans?

Once upon a time I would've said the OU but from what I read its a bit of a shambles these days.

It sounds like you have a good mindset for academia anyway. You want to learn about the subject and study it for its own sake so I wouldn't be messing about with rail-road courses. Enjoy your 3 years getting up at whatever time you feel like on Mondays.

>>11096
>actually being paid to study there

Eh? My understanding is that whilst you might be able to skip tuition fees entirely the catch is that you can't claim maintenance loan and I've not heard of anywhere that will pay you an equivalent.

In fact at least Sweden now requires you to prove that you have the funds to support yourself because they kept getting students who couldn't afford food.
>> No. 11098 Anonymous
20th February 2017
Monday 8:26 am
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>>11097

Norway.

And as long as it is EU you should still be able to claim maintenance. Unless something massive has changed. And I don't mean Brexit.
>> No. 11099 Anonymous
20th February 2017
Monday 1:12 pm
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>>11097

Sorry lad, I mis-read your post. However, to my understanding Norway will ensure you have a roof and food.

France, Germany, Spain, Sweden all teach courses at 500 EUR a term, and you will still get your student loan. And the maintenance loan.
>> No. 11100 Anonymous
20th February 2017
Monday 3:26 pm
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>>11096

Balls to that ladm8. Engineering graduates have the third highest lifetime earnings, behind economics and medicine graduates. China and India are producing a lot of engineers, but they're generally poor engineers with poor communication skills.

Do the engineering degree, but also take enrichment classes in creative writing and public speaking. Competent engineers who can communicate effectively are rare and valuable.
>> No. 11101 Anonymous
20th February 2017
Monday 5:23 pm
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>>11100
Lifetime earning figures are meaningless in the context of millions of young engineers who have not yet lived long enough for them to matter.
>> No. 11102 Anonymous
20th February 2017
Monday 6:14 pm
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>>11101
No reason to get despondent then!
>> No. 11103 Anonymous
20th February 2017
Monday 8:06 pm
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>>11102
Apart from, you know, all those highly-mobile Chindian engineers driving your earning potential down.
>> No. 11104 Anonymous
20th February 2017
Monday 8:18 pm
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>>11103

What proportion of those Chindians do you think will be able to get a European work permit?
>> No. 11105 Anonymous
20th February 2017
Monday 8:21 pm
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>>11103

Considering China and India compose a third of the world population I think it's more than just Engineering grads that should worry about their jobs if they were to be a threat.

What's the alternative anyway? Just give up on education and work in a big Chinese owned and run factory as we welcome our new slanty eyed overlords?
>> No. 11106 Anonymous
20th February 2017
Monday 8:32 pm
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>>11104
Somewhere around irrelevant%.
>> No. 11107 Anonymous
20th February 2017
Monday 8:35 pm
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>>11103
Mobile, sure, completely incapable of working in the West too.
>> No. 11108 Anonymous
20th February 2017
Monday 8:36 pm
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>>11107
What a shame there are no engineering projects outside the UK.
>> No. 11109 Anonymous
20th February 2017
Monday 8:44 pm
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>>11108
We need another great war!
>> No. 11110 Anonymous
21st February 2017
Tuesday 7:43 am
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>>11108

Who cares?
>> No. 11111 Anonymous
21st February 2017
Tuesday 9:30 am
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>>11107

Bollocks.

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