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>> No. 19693 Anonymous
17th July 2019
Wednesday 12:36 pm
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Govia Thameslink fined £1m over Gatwick Express window death

A rail firm has been fined £1m after a man died leaning out of a train window. Simon Brown, 24, was killed when he hit his head on a steel gantry on the side of the track while on the Gatwick Express in London in August 2016.

In May, Govia Thameslink Railway admitted a health and safety breach because a sign saying not to lean out was not displayed clearly enough.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-49016151

I can see why the rest of Europe takes the piss out of us for having signs everywhere infantilising us. Fined because someone is stupid enough to stick their head out of a train window, fuck me.
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>> No. 19694 Anonymous
17th July 2019
Wednesday 12:47 pm
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>>19693
>I can see why the rest of Europe takes the piss out of us for having signs everywhere infantilising us.
Do they?

In any case, be glad that there are trains you can stick your head out of. Even if down my way they have security on board to make sure you don't.
>> No. 19695 Anonymous
17th July 2019
Wednesday 1:36 pm
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It was evidently the right decision for the BBC to not have comments on this story, as I can't help but call this stupid cunt, a stupid cunt.

if you are 24 years old you are old enough to know not to stick your fucking head out of a train window. it is not the falt of the rail company for not sticking hazard tape around the window.
>> No. 19696 Anonymous
17th July 2019
Wednesday 1:43 pm
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This is the window in question. The bottom left warning is the one that apparently isn't prominent enough.
>> No. 19697 Anonymous
17th July 2019
Wednesday 5:46 pm
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The problem with plastering signs everywhere like we do, it's that people quickly get so used to them that they ignore them. I see quite often that the public simply doesn't read warning or safety signs, no matter how prominent or frequent they are. I put a sign above a light switch at work once that said "do not touch - 4000 volts" or something with a skull on it. People used that light switch all day.

These signs are just part of the scenery here in the UK. And because of this, nobody ever puts a sign up to protect the public, they do it to protect themselves from liability.

At the same time, having trains that have slidey down windows that don't even interlock when the train is flying down the track at 90mph is pretty fucking stupid, no matter how much at fault the headless chap was for sticking his bonce out of the window in the first place, and I'd argue that's the real safety issue.
>> No. 19698 Anonymous
17th July 2019
Wednesday 6:01 pm
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>>19697
On older stock (such as pictured in >>19696) you have to drop the window to open the door. No point locking them because you'd have to retrofit them to force themselves shut and then you'd lose a shitload of time in waiting for someone to drop the window at every stop, especially in London where the chances that someone is actually going to open the door to let people get off are less than zero.
>> No. 19699 Anonymous
17th July 2019
Wednesday 6:16 pm
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>>19698

Yeah, exactly. It's still a safety issue.

You also have to wait for someone to push the button at every stop on newer trains. Don't really see that as the issue. Just install maglocks on the door.
>> No. 19700 Anonymous
17th July 2019
Wednesday 6:21 pm
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>>19699
Pressing the button is an awful lot quicker and easier than sliding the window down. Locking the window is only really going to be any good if you can be sure that the thing is up. Thankfully, in most newer trains, the second most important reason for opening the window is dispensed with by aircon. Everyone knows the main reason for opening a window is to flail at photographers or salute the traction.
>> No. 19701 Anonymous
17th July 2019
Wednesday 6:34 pm
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>>19694
Yes. I can't find it now but there's an image entitled something like 'How Europe sees Britain' and it's a photo of a street with shitloads of warning signs on it, most of which are basic common sense.
>> No. 19702 Anonymous
17th July 2019
Wednesday 6:43 pm
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>>19695
What do you think he is going to do with the money?
>> No. 19703 Anonymous
17th July 2019
Wednesday 7:02 pm
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>>19695
Calm down, mate. It's hardly a story to lose your head over.
>> No. 19704 Anonymous
17th July 2019
Wednesday 7:41 pm
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>>19703

I know you are just looking to make a one liner but it really pisses me off. My real gripe is that as someone who uses that train line, throwing a £1m fine at them affects the quality of of service I receive. I'm all for fines to make companies actually follow the rules and care about people but they might as well taken that money directly from me and everyone else who uses that service as far as I'm concerned. I hate the cunt even more for making me defend a privatised company.
>> No. 19705 Anonymous
18th July 2019
Thursday 12:39 am
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>>19704
> I know you are just looking to make a one liner
That's monorails lad. We're talking about normal railways in this thread.
>> No. 19706 Anonymous
18th July 2019
Thursday 7:00 am
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>>19705
Is there a chance the track could bend?
>> No. 19707 Anonymous
18th July 2019
Thursday 10:24 am
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While it's horrible and a guy has died in a completely unavoidable way, I am reminded by the saying that society can only move as fast as its slowest person.
>> No. 19712 Anonymous
18th July 2019
Thursday 6:42 pm
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>In May, Govia Thameslink Railway admitted a health and safety breach because a sign saying not to lean out was not displayed clearly enough.

If you need a sign to tell you not to lean your head out of the window of a train going 100 mph, then you've got deeper problems.

>"The signage around the window was confusing," he said, adding no risk assessment of the windows had been carried out.

That would be a valid argument if there was a sign next to the "don't lean your head out" one telling you that it's fine to lean it out.

If you can't be bothered reading six little signs all conveying potentially vital health and safety information to you, then maybe public transport isn't for you in the first place.
>> No. 19713 Anonymous
18th July 2019
Thursday 6:54 pm
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>>19712

Maybe the £1m fine and a hand in a Darwin Award was better value than getting new stickers with the warning in three dozen languages.
>> No. 19714 Anonymous
18th July 2019
Thursday 7:39 pm
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>>19693

I'm no foamer, and I'm not going to make a big thing about the OP image being a Northern Rail train, but I just want to say that I feel a huge sense of relief when one of these is going to handle my commute, because most of the rest of the fleet is complete shit. I'd certainly feel like beheading myself If I found myself with no choice but to ride a Pacer.
>> No. 19715 Anonymous
18th July 2019
Thursday 7:46 pm
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>>19713
>new stickers with the warning in three dozen languages

Considering the demographics of London it does only seem to be our home grown idiots who are daft enough to do things like leaning out of a moving train.
>> No. 19716 Anonymous
18th July 2019
Thursday 8:19 pm
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>>19715

It's something a bit different for our news media to pounce on. Yooves getting stabbed with wood screws or drenched with Sarson's for sideways glances doesn't do it anymore. BRITISH INGENUITY.
>> No. 19718 Anonymous
19th July 2019
Friday 10:35 am
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>>19715
The imported Londoners have years of experience under their belts, British trains must seem like a doddle
>> No. 19730 Anonymous
19th July 2019
Friday 3:57 pm
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https://youtu.be/Yhv-2clxlJ8
>> No. 19731 Anonymous
19th July 2019
Friday 4:04 pm
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>>19693
Hey, that train, I get that train all the time.
>> No. 19732 Anonymous
19th July 2019
Friday 4:34 pm
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>>19731
That train gets you, too. Really gets you.
>> No. 19733 Anonymous
19th July 2019
Friday 5:00 pm
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>>19732
No one gets me that's why I'm like this.
>> No. 19734 Anonymous
19th July 2019
Friday 5:16 pm
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>>19733
Sounds like you've gone off the rails.
>> No. 19735 Anonymous
19th July 2019
Friday 5:31 pm
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>>19731
>>19732
Just get a siding already.

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