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|>>|| No. 21041
Lads are you worried about the coronavirus?
I've purposely not read up about it. Mainly because the SARS, Swine Flu, Bird Flu and Ebola threat was over-hyped by the media. Prediction wise, I think after several months it will be contained and everyone will eventually forget about it.
What do you think?
|>>|| No. 21457
> They are far more likely to have come into contact with the virus at the airport as we still see thousands of travellers to and from china every day.
I have a friend who is BA ground personnel in Heathrow. He told me they've had a few staff meetings about the coronavirus, but that they were pretty much just told to keep their distance and avoid physical contact with travellers, and to report any signs of the disease to airport medical assistance that they'll spot on themselves or travellers. I think he said something that they're considering putting up thermal imaging cameras to spot sick passengers if the situation worsens.
|>>|| No. 21458
The mortality rate is the only part that matters though isn't it. Nobody was saying "it will never make it over here", but they were saying "you're making a bigger deal of this than you need to".
The common cold is one of the most infectious, contagious diseases known to man, but you're hardly worried about that are you? It's massive, it infects millions upon millions of people every year. When one person at work gets it, you know it's literally just a matter of time til you've got it too.
Stop being such a spod. There will be no great plague. You should instead be pinning your hopes on anti-microbial resistance.
|>>|| No. 21459
Perhaps the mortality rate was an underlying component of the conversation that I wasn't considering because it was only implied, but as far as I can understand the communications I had on the issue at the time it was usually coronavirus mentioned, some muppet saying it's a load of nothing like SARS, myself stating that it will eventually reach us and in large numbers and then being met with the government advisory relevant to that week. "Nah mate we've shut down the planes." "The government danger rating is 'low'" (ignore the fact that low is actually stage 4 out of 5, if the warning is not 'very low' it's time to be worried) or "just wash your hands and you won't get sick."
My only hope is the load of fat mongs who end up catching coronavirus stampeding to buy face masks cause an earthquake and thus massively up the mortality rate. Alas, you will likely survive this great plague.
|>>|| No. 21460
>Worldwide, these annual epidemics are estimated to result in about 3 to 5 million cases of severe illness, and about 290 000 to 650 000 respiratory deaths.
What a fucking load of shite. We're worried here about a few hundred, perhaps even a few thousand dead, when during a bad year (or a good year, depending on how much you despise mankind), over half a million people die from basic, generic flu.
The cumulative death toll of all worldwide Coronavirus infections is around 2,700 now:
So if we say it's been three months since the first outbreak, and we're still at only 2,700 dead, then we've still got a lot of catching up to do to get to any kind of year-on-year figure that makes this anything more than a blip on the screen.
|>>|| No. 21461
It IS a load of nothing like SARS though, the only difference is how far it got. It's killed even LESS people than SARS did, it's literally (literally) a shitter cousin of SARS. It might have slept with more birds but it's made less of them cum. It's the kind of guy women ask "...Was that it?" after he finishes.
Why does it matter if it's highly contagious if it's so piss weak when you get it? There's really no need to put in more effort to stop the spread when the spread will largely be inconsequential.
I really don't understand your problem is. It's like someone told you Farsnley Town Athletic did shit this season, they only won three matches." and you go "BUT THEY HAVE MORE PLAYERS THAN ANYBODY ELSE!"
|>>|| No. 21462
Right, so if you lot (everything is finers) had said that at the start we wouldn't be seeing bare shelves in Italy or a reversion to tribal leadership at spearpoint witnessed by the lad with the Chinese friend above now would we?
Really you're just a bother, you start with demonstrably false statements and then when the real world proves you wrong you move on to a different set of statistics to abate the panic you created last month by using a different set of statistics. But you know what the real kicker is? I doubt you're even interested in this, you just got told by some funny haired bow-tied expert on the news that the flu kills loads of people and the coronavirus has barely killed anyone, and here you are parroting it like it's your own idea, a definitive unimpeachable thought for which you are responsible. Odds on you were parroting the weekly changing narrative for the last month as well.
I'm sure you'll be saying it's good that the rich have air controlled bunkers when everyone is dead if they manage to keep the electricity going so you can still get you weekly briefing from the news.
|>>|| No. 21463
No lad. I'm a medical worker who would be personally handling infected blood and testing it if covid made it to my town. I'm telling you this is nothing to worry about. In fact I'd love to fucking get it so I can have two weeks of work.
I'm going to stop encouraging you because you're off your bloody rocker.
|>>|| No. 21464
I'm off my rocker for saying the exact same thing as you but suggesting that the claims "it won't leave China" were wrong? No wonder the NHS is in shambles if this is level of reading comprehension present among an average worker.
|>>|| No. 21465
Show me where anybody said it won't leave China. Nice backpedal though m8.
|>>|| No. 21468
>you just got told by some funny haired bow-tied expert on the news that the flu kills loads of people and the coronavirus has barely killed anyone, and here you are parroting it like it's your own idea
Own idea or not, you can't argue with those statistics. One is from the WHO, generally a trusted institution on public health statistics, and the other, well, is a commonly accepted figure that is being quoted by most reputable news outlets.
I hope you've got a face mask to go along with your tinfoil hat.
|>>|| No. 21469
As I authored the post and the comments to which I was referring were not defined or described by me, nor were they transcribed from the secret audio recordings I make of all my daily interactions in case I'm challenged about the contents of said interactions by an intern nurse on .gs at a later date, you can guess from context that those are the interactions I was referring to.
Now go back to putting the wrong tube in the wrong catheter you fucking idiot.
|>>|| No. 21470
You're taking a post out of the context of the thread. The argument was not about those statistics and I do not disagree with the statistics of the conclusions reached based on them. My argument is, yet again, that all the mongs saying this would never be a thing have been wrong, and I am happy to be vindicated. I know it won't kill many of them, but seeing them in such a panic because the news told them it would never be a thing makes me very happy.
|>>|| No. 21471
> that all the mongs saying this would never be a thing have been wrong
It still isn't a "thing". Not in actual terms of the severity of the infection and its long-term public health effects.
You're just buying into the fact that it's "a thing". Thinking then makes it so, and next thing you know everybody is completely shitting themselves with fear over a bug that should hardly even make the news at all.
The worldwide hysteria really only started because the virus broke out in a totalitarian country where the government has the power to shut down entire cities of a few hundred thousand people. That has set the standard. So if authorities in Western countries are following suit, it's mainly because politicians don't want to be held accountable if a few dozen people die and they are accused of not having taken the same safety precautions as a bunch of pseudo communists in the world's largest autocratically ruled country.
I know that .gs often prides itself in being casually anti-democratic, but we have really allowed a bunch of bat soup eating maoists to pull the biggest practical joke in years on the entire rest of the world.
|>>|| No. 21472
The panic started because you lot (irl, not on .gs) said it would never leave China because we shut down the planes. Then the week when it did leave china you said the government health warning is "low" so it's not going to come here. Then the week when it did get here you said washing your hands will save your life. Now people are forming bands of Mad Max style roving militia looking for anyone with a sniffle, all because people like you lied at every stage instead of just saying yeah it's probably going to come here but only old folks are going to die.
It wasn't a few hundred thousand btw, it started at 11 million on lockdown in Wuhan with the city itself containing a 7 figure number of inhabitants, not hundreds of thousands, now it's 150 million across all of China. I think it's about 50,000 in Italy.
Here's a link because I know you're going to try to be an arsehole about my 150 million claim and I just can't be arsed stretching this out longer than it has to go on.
|>>|| No. 21473
Semantics, lad. Semantics.
I'll give you that 150 million people were on lockdown. Which is just over ten percent of China's total population. Kind of an impressive number in its own right.
But the panic didn't start because some of us couldn't be arsed to join in on the panic that was unfolding in China. In fact, a lot of us would do well to be a bit more phlegmatic about the whole thing. So what if people were wrong about the virus coming to Britain, or even just Europe. To the great majority of people, it will make no difference for their health one way or another. And even if you catch the coronavirus, your probability of survival is 97 percent and without any long-term effects at all. You'll spend ten days in bed and then you'll be done with it. And you will have developed an immunity.
|>>|| No. 21474
>The panic started because you lot (irl, not on .gs) said it would never leave China because we shut down the planes.
Let me get this straight. Are you trying to take us to task because you are surrounded by idiots? Nobody here said it wouldn't leave China.
>Then the week when it did get here you said washing your hands will save your life.
Nobody said that either. You were told back then that washing your hands carefully was the correct thing to do to minimise the spread of the disease as much as possible. This remains the case.
>I am happy to be vindicated
You aren't being vindicated, you're being shown to be behaving like a hysterical child.
|>>|| No. 21475
>You aren't being vindicated, you're being shown to be behaving like a hysterical child.
Finally, somebody with some sense.
|>>|| No. 21476
That's the problem with arguing with retards, in the end everyone just looks like a retard. I started this discussion much earlier in the day with this post >>21456 which made it clear I was talking about the idiots I am surrounded by but the ensuing argument over nothing culminated in this, you not following the conversation thread and calling me a hysterical child because you have a small willy. It's so tedious that my responses from here on out will be nonsensical and ad hominem you small willy having pikey.
>But the panic didn't start because some of us couldn't be arsed to join in on the panic that was unfolding in China.
It did though, when the news pumps out 3 stories offering more excuses about why we'll be fine in as many weeks and all the retards who want to say words without saying anything parrot those lies people feel betrayed when the news suddenly says "what we said before was a lie, now we're all going to die." (It's not saying that, it's actually saying "what we said before was all a lie but now here's a new reason it will all be fine so believe us again and don't panic, but the former is how people are taking it you carpet-bagger.)
Your arsehole is the smelliest arsehole I've ever sniffed. Have a shower.
|>>|| No. 21477
>when the news pumps out 3 stories offering more excuses about why we'll be fine in as many weeks
We have the opposite problem. The reality is that this virus is not a serious threat to most people, certainly no more than a seasonal flu, yet for example some are apparently choosing to throw away plane tickets rather than risk flying. This is akin to hiding under the bed to ensure you don't get hit by a bus; it is an effective but not a proportionate response. Why are people behaving like this? Because the topic has been promoted to front-page news by a scaremongering press, who are quite happy to whip up fear among the credulous, the conspiracists, and those chronically short of critical thinking skills. Congratulations on ticking all three, you daft, dopey bastard.
|>>|| No. 21478
>Your arsehole is the smelliest arsehole I've ever sniffed. Have a shower.
Nobody was asking you to smell it.
I'd lay off on the arse sniffing for the next few weeks. Faeces are one of the ways the virus spreads.
|>>|| No. 21480
> The reality is that this virus is not a serious threat to most people, certainly no more than a seasonal flu, yet for example some are apparently choosing to throw away plane tickets rather than risk flying.
That's what's so fucking mental. And a lot of these people will have travel insurance, so in the event that they actually become ill during their time there and either have to fly home early, or that they'll miss the plane home at the end of it because they're hospitalised and what-have-you, your insurance will usually reimburse some 80 percent of your financial loss. Not to mention that all your medical treatment will otherwise be fully covered.
My girlfriend and I flew to Corfu once, and the air conditioning in our hire car gave me the worst fucking cold I'd had in years on the second day. I spent six days of a ten-day holiday in and out of bed at our hotel as well as half a day in a local hospital waiting room. I never even once complained. Neither did she, although it pretty much spoiled the holiday for her as well.
And now these people throw away what could have been a perfectly fine holiday with no chance of reimbursement, all on the off chance that they'd be among the 2.8 percent that actually die from the disease, just because of some Chinese whispers see what I did there that somebody, one person, on an island with hundreds of thousands of inhabitants may have the coronavirus.
People need a sense of perspective. The Bubonic Plague. THAT was a fucking epidemic. Wiped out half of Europe's population. But not this shite that has been blown way out of proportion.
|>>|| No. 21481
OMFG MY FRIEND WHO IS IN WUHAN HEARD SOME BANGING IN HIS BASEMENT. HE WENT TO INVESTIGATE AND FOUND THIS THING - HE MANAGED TO TAKE A PICTURE BEFORE HE SHAT HIMSELF AND RAN OFF. WHAT THE FUCK.
|>>|| No. 21483
>People need a sense of perspective. The Bubonic Plague. THAT was a fucking epidemic. Wiped out half of Europe's population. But not this shite that has been blown way out of proportion.
The 1918 flu pandemic killed more people than the first world war. Coronavirus isn't the bubonic plague, but flu-like illness is still a big deal.
|>>|| No. 21485
The Spanish Flu only had a mortality rate of 2-3%, surely all those people that died were just making a big deal out of nothing. I bet they didn't even know to wash their hands the silly sods.
For reference, a 2.7% mortality rate is 1 in 37. I'm sure most of us know 36 people, at least in passing. Yes I'm aware that's not how percentages work, no I don't care.
|>>|| No. 21486
>For reference, a 2.7% mortality rate is 1 in 37. I'm sure most of us know 36 people
You're still assuming an infection rate of 100 percent of the population. That's indeed not how statistics work.
Cancer kills 30 percent of patients. That's almost one in three. I'm just going to hazard a guess that you know three people.
|>>|| No. 21489
I would need cancer first, mind you I probably already have it from this conversation.
|>>|| No. 21495
Chinkmatelad here, work still won't let me go back in. I've spoken to the NHS and they've said it's bloody silly hysteria for what's clearly just a bit of flu but HR are still shitting themselves. I'm far more worried about what the cabin fever is doing to my flimsy sanity.
|>>|| No. 21496
I'm feeling a bit under myself, I think I am coming down with a cold or a flu the last two to three days. No cases of coronavirus have been reported here in Glasgow as yet, and I can't say I've spent much time among large groups of people or in public places in the last two weeks, so it's probably really just that.
|>>|| No. 21500
It looks like the thing we have to worry about most is people recovering.
|>>|| No. 21501
You're not the only one who finds it informative.
The relatively low mortality is actually a reason to be concerned. It has already killed more people in a couple of months than much more deadly viral strains like SARS or avian flu have in decades because people infected people typically remain healthy enough to spread it.
|>>|| No. 21502
Looks like face masks and rubber gloves are becoming a hot commodity. You even read stories around the web that hospitals are starting to struggle procuring them.
Nice porn name though.
|>>|| No. 21505
So a lad said he had flu symptoms and I said he should see what official advice is (while well aware that the risk to his health is low) >>21431.
I return to the thread a few days later and a full blown cunt off has ensued about whether people are panicking unnecessarily, or causing panic unnecessarily, or whether washing hands is right or wrong. What the hell happened? If you think you've caught the novel coronavirus, it's not dangerous to you personally, but you should stay home from work and let the authorities know you have it. Honestly why is this a difficult or contentious thing?
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