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|>>|| No. 23797
Bozza dead by next week, bet your house on it.
|>>|| No. 23819
I thought I didn't want David Cameron as prime minister.
Then it turned out I really didn't want Theresa May as prime minister.
Then, I really, really didn't want Boris Johnson as prime minister.
I note that the BBC published a fresh profile on Dominic "Licky Fingers" Raab yesterday.
|>>|| No. 23822
I'd love to see Putin's briefing document on Raaaab.
|>>|| No. 23823
There was a round of applause at 3pm on Sunday to show the kiddies we're thinking of them.
Tonight at 8pm we're clapping for Bozza. Thursday at 8pm we're clapping for the NHS and petrol station forecourt workers.
|>>|| No. 23824
New thread? We're already up to 10 posts and my PDP-1 is audibly struggling.
|>>|| No. 23827
All home computing devices since 1971 will soon be supported.
Yours fraternally, Threadmaster General.
Posted from Blackberry.
|>>|| No. 23828
Just discovered Spacewar! thanks to this post. For a game from 1962 it's surprisingly complex. Animation, physics, 2 player controls, and the simpler Pong on the PDP-1 was two years later. I guess because Pong was a one man show and Spacewar! had several top beardies at MIT working on it collaboratively.
|>>|| No. 23829
If you don't come out and clap your neighbours will think of you as a cunt.
Good thing they already do for me.
|>>|| No. 23831
One of my neighbours was mowing the lawn at 9am this morning so he can go and fuck himself with a rake.
|>>|| No. 23832
I haven't quite understood the purpose of this thread.
|>>|| No. 23833
Have you read the manual? Computers aren't for everyone but if you haven't even read the manual you're obviously not going to know what's going on.
|>>|| No. 23834
If Boris croaks this whole country's gonna blow.
|>>|| No. 23836
They'll just stuff him with hay and prop him up and do a voice over if that happens.
|>>|| No. 23846
Beeb won't let me access old In Our Time episodes. Time to 3D print a gun, I guess.
|>>|| No. 23847
Andrew Marr: These figures are damning, Priminister. People are dying as a direct result of your decision not to lock down the country based on the advice of behavioural scientists and "game theory".
Borbot: PING PONG IS COMING HOME!
|>>|| No. 23848
Get a room. He might deserve to sit alongside the likes of Ashens, Tom Scott, bigclivedotcom, ralfydotcom and photonicinduction as a resident gs YouTuber but without watching that I very much doubt it.
|>>|| No. 23864
Biffo is a legend and if you're any sort of britfa you'd be welcoming the godfather of teletext with open arms.
|>>|| No. 23867
I've only got a green and black 8" display attached to my Atari 2600 but I'm assuming that means that we haven't flattened the curve.
|>>|| No. 23870
While dishonest i can certainly understand the reasoning for adjusting the numbers, or maintaining strict measures on identifying the virus.
If people were crazed on toilet paper, to the extent of mugging the aged, what will we do if the pandemic appeared much more severe? A friend of mine used to boast how he'd basically become a tyrant if shit hit the fan and he's exactly the type to rise to the hysteria. Thankfully his response has been much less directly explosive than that but i can see him and plenty of others working themselves and their communities into a state of pure panic.
We need to keep a calm head on things and this is a way of doing that, for the time being. What are the alternatives; tell the raw facts and risk a nation in chaos? (I'm in a reletively unaffected area, maybe it's worse in Lundun).
As a side note, a friend of mine developed significant corona like symptoms after intimate contact with a another who's since been confirmed as carrying the virus (outside of the country). The friend was hospitalised but her tests returned negative. There was a delay on test results and she says they didn't take samples very well, but ultimately she's got off lightly with only the use of antibiotics and an inhaler. Another friend was in prolonged immidiate contact with this person but appears to be clear of any symptoms, up to 10 days later.
Now i don't know what i'm talking about, but i'm wondering if my friends illness might be a less lethal strain or copycat kind of virus rather than full blown corona, therefore not reaching the criteria to be recorded on the government tally. Or maybe she did have it and and somehow didn't pass it to the otherfriend - which in itself seems a miricle as they were living in close proximity for 7 days or so. Either way, the results are good and both have isolated themselves just to be sure - the results of which can only be considered constructive even if the case wasn't counted.
But then again don't they say to judge by actions, not intention? Maybe i'm an arsehole.
|>>|| No. 23872
>maybe it's worse in Lundun
There was someone doing handbrake turns on the main road earlier and about 70% of the people I passed outdoors were either drunk or carrying bottles of alcohol so fairly normal as far as London goes.
|>>|| No. 23874
My friend's got a text from the NHS today telling them they're at high risk of severe illness if they catch coronavirus so they have to remain at home for 12 weeks unless a healthcare professional tells them to leave. It seems a bit late in the day for this sort of thing.
|>>|| No. 23875
Happy to say that nobody in my street clapped.
|>>|| No. 23892
Have some respect. We'd never stoop to The Sun; that's clearly the work of Mail Online.
|>>|| No. 23895
Damn, they've followed up about my offer to volunteer during this thing. I'm going to have to start wearing clean clothes and stuff again.
|>>|| No. 23899
It's also the fact that a lot live with 3 or 4 generations all under one roof
|>>|| No. 23902
USA will be up to 500,000 cases and 20,000 deaths in a few days.
|>>|| No. 23905
The deadliest day reported in Italy was 971 deaths, in Spain 950.
We had 938 deaths yesterday and expected to continue to rise.
|>>|| No. 23906
Classic British exceptionalism. We won't let ourselves be outdone by a gaggle of no-good dagos and greaseballs.
|>>|| No. 23909
So we've got people complaining about long threads on their shite machines but autoplaying gifs are fine?
|>>|| No. 23914
Contest what exactly?
The opposite point could be made that the govt has it in their own best interests to oversell the severity of the pandemic to encourage compliance with distancing measures.
If people think that the disease isn't an issue, they'll continue to socialize and the spread will place sufficient stress in the NHS that it becomes an issue.
Depending on what model you look at, our numbers appear lower at this point in the development of the pandemic than what was predicted.
When numbers start going down, people stop complying with distancing and numbers start to climb again.
With regards to inaccurate reporting of numbers, there are a number of non-political reasons this is an issue. We don't have enough tests so it is impossible to test everyone. So we are only testing those with severe symptoms. This means that all the data we have regarding morbidity and mortality is skewed towards the worst cases.
If somebody develops COVID-19 and dies of a heart attack while infected. Do you count them as a COVID-19 death or not?
If somebody dies of COVID-19 before being tested, they should really be tested to ensure the numbers are as accurate as possible, but being that there isn't even enough testing capacity to be routinely looking at front line healthcare workers, how are you going to waste a test on a corpse?
People in Oxford are currently testing 3000 people for COVID-19 with antibody tests to get a better handle on the actual number of infections in the population. A group in Germany is performing a similar study. Looking at the cult in South Korea, a much higher percentage of people were infected than required medical attention.
I think with this virus, we're going to find that a lot more people are infected, or have been infected, than we realise and that the morbidity/mortality of the virus is not as bad as it currently appears.
The issues presented by COVID-19 are not biological, nor medical. They are economic. If the NHS hadn't been starved of funds for a decade this would be less of an issue. If more doctors and nurses had been trained over the last 10 years in order to accomodate population increase and demographic shifts towards elderly this would have been more managable. If global supply chains weren't optimized only to maximize profit margins and instead were engineered with redundancy and contingency in place, this would be less of a problem.
You'll have a vaccine in 18 months if you're lucky. Antivirals will never be an effective treatment for this disease. The key to minimizing the harm caused by COVID-19 is to maximize the number of ventilators and trained staff available to deal with the minority of cases that require intensive care.
|>>|| No. 23916
Do you have the actual source on that chart lad? It obviously says FT, but do you have a link to the article? Because it looks remarkably like scaremongering bullshit.
|>>|| No. 23918
Go on Nige, show us your bollocks, why don't you. You're halfway there already.
|>>|| No. 23919
This also looks remarkably like scaremongering bullshit too. Scaremongering bullshit that needs to be watched on at least 1.5x speed.
|>>|| No. 23920
I don't really know why this would be your response. Obviously biolabs work on viruses.
|>>|| No. 23922
Everybody knows that Wuhan Institute of Technology hired a new Post-Doc in November and he didn't wash his hands and that is how the gain-of-function bat virus escaped.
Nobody in Wuhan could admit this at the time (and still can't) because it would result in a massive loss of face, which we all know is the worst possible outcome for anything.
The head of the Provence then held a feast of 40,000 people communally following this as a show of face to assuage the fears of the people because there's nothing to worry about, a little bit of laduzi, a little bit of pneumonia never hurt anyone who mattered.
Lol jokes. Zoonotic diseases emerge in literally every country, literally every other month and there is nothing that can be done to prevent this, or stem the spread of these when they arise.
|>>|| No. 23924
The data is accurate - the time lag on death reporting (particularly for out-of-hospital deaths) means that the daily reported death toll is a significant under-estimate; many of the deaths being reported as part of today's toll actually happened several days ago. On top of that, we're bottlenecked by testing capacity - we can do about 10,000 tests per day, but it often takes three or four tests per patient to get an accurate result. This means that both the daily new cases and the daily deaths figure represents the upper bound of our testing capacity, not the actual number of cases.
|>>|| No. 23925
Your answer doesn't demonstrate that the chart is true. It just offers speculation as to why the chart might be true and that is as good as rumour. Truthiness if you will.
If you have a link to the orginal article or another article to that affect which reports on this alleged death - confirmation gap or a link to NHS death records for recent days that I could use confirm this to be the case that would satisfy my doubt.
|>>|| No. 23927
Looked into the figures on that sheet it looks accurate, it seems mostly that the NHS aren't in a rush normally to declare a deaths and cause of death so they aren't included in the 'up to date' figures, as you said.
Nothing sinister, just that level of immediate reporting is not normally expected proceedure as far as I can tell.
|>>|| No. 23928
Problem with the ONS report is that they're doing a very simplistic search for mentions of covid-19 on death certificates, there's no context.
A lot of these additional numbers will be either where covid has been mentioned as a possible contributing factpr or simply be pure speculation of the coroners.
|>>|| No. 23929
Other problem being there are plenty of people dying at home and in care homes from covid-19 that are being ignored or not counted.
|>>|| No. 23931
Google finds two articles that image appeared in from the same source: one suggesting the police are going to start getting tougher on enforcement and another from three hours later quoting the Home Secretary saying "no they ain't".
|>>|| No. 23932
That isn't a thing that happens. People obviously do die at home but the idea that no one ever looks into the cause of death and it isn't recorded is simply untrue.
|>>|| No. 23933
I know the bodies weren't found in a dwelling but what happened with the Stephen Port murders make me question that assertion.
|>>|| No. 23934
It was from a Mail article but they appear to have since removed the image from it. Is Priti Patel actually trusted to do stuff now?
|>>|| No. 23938
Just wait for the otherlad to come along and say that's all made up because the bins he uses aren't blue.
|>>|| No. 23939
You mean when the original inquests into the deaths returned open verdicts and the coroner stated “some concerns surrounding Daniel's death which have not been answered by the police investigation".
The police mishandled it because the police are homophobic barbarians with state approval that roam the countryside, the ONS and Coroners’ Society of England & Wales rarely make assumptions and come up with definitive answers.
|>>|| No. 23940
I'll side with a random bloke over the internet who claims to know what he;s on about over a Guardian journo who definitely doesn't know what they're on about, TBQPFH m8.
|>>|| No. 23941
They aren't added at that point because they haven't been fully recorded yet. they won't appear on those figures because the coronor hadn't reached a conclusion at the time. Of course they end up in official figures they just aren't in your 24 hour around the clock up to date scaremongering reporting you spazpot.
This is the media making their own story they push for the numbers known at a certain point then act shocked when those numbers need to be revised later.
|>>|| No. 23942
So what you're saying is there are plenty of people dying at home and in care homes from covid-19 that are being ignored or not counted.
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