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>> No. 23797 Anonymous
7th April 2020
Tuesday 1:24 am
23797 ITZ 48K - 8 Bit Edition
Bozza dead by next week, bet your house on it.
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>> No. 23798 Anonymous
7th April 2020
Tuesday 1:28 am
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>>23797
Mirth.
>> No. 23799 Anonymous
7th April 2020
Tuesday 1:28 am
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>>23797
Mirth.
>> No. 23800 Anonymous
7th April 2020
Tuesday 1:31 am
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>>23798
>>23799
>> No. 23801 Anonymous
7th April 2020
Tuesday 1:31 am
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>>23797
Now I want to play Chucky Egg.
>> No. 23814 Anonymous
7th April 2020
Tuesday 2:20 am
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Alright, alright, I'll fucking stay indoors.
>> No. 23819 Anonymous
7th April 2020
Tuesday 4:18 am
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I thought I didn't want David Cameron as prime minister.
Then it turned out I really didn't want Theresa May as prime minister.
Then, I really, really didn't want Boris Johnson as prime minister.

I note that the BBC published a fresh profile on Dominic "Licky Fingers" Raab yesterday.
>> No. 23821 Anonymous
7th April 2020
Tuesday 6:59 am
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>>23784
>>23793
>>23794
Wait, is this why I heard a burst of applause from all my neighbours the other day? I was so fucking confused.
>> No. 23822 Anonymous
7th April 2020
Tuesday 8:14 am
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I'd love to see Putin's briefing document on Raaaab.
>> No. 23823 Anonymous
7th April 2020
Tuesday 8:20 am
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>>23821
There was a round of applause at 3pm on Sunday to show the kiddies we're thinking of them.

Tonight at 8pm we're clapping for Bozza. Thursday at 8pm we're clapping for the NHS and petrol station forecourt workers.
>> No. 23824 Anonymous
7th April 2020
Tuesday 9:28 am
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New thread? We're already up to 10 posts and my PDP-1 is audibly struggling.
>> No. 23825 Anonymous
7th April 2020
Tuesday 9:49 am
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>>23824
Yeah, my SSEM can't keep up either.
>> No. 23826 Anonymous
7th April 2020
Tuesday 10:13 am
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>>23824
>>23825

Same here. My Etch-a-sketch sounds like it's about to snuff it too.
>> No. 23827 Anonymous
7th April 2020
Tuesday 10:57 am
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>>23824
>>23825
>>23826

All home computing devices since 1971 will soon be supported.

Yours fraternally, Threadmaster General.

_________________________

Posted from Blackberry.
>> No. 23828 Anonymous
7th April 2020
Tuesday 11:16 am
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>>23824
Just discovered Spacewar! thanks to this post. For a game from 1962 it's surprisingly complex. Animation, physics, 2 player controls, and the simpler Pong on the PDP-1 was two years later. I guess because Pong was a one man show and Spacewar! had several top beardies at MIT working on it collaboratively.
>> No. 23829 Anonymous
7th April 2020
Tuesday 11:23 am
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>>23821
If you don't come out and clap your neighbours will think of you as a cunt.
Good thing they already do for me.
>> No. 23830 Anonymous
7th April 2020
Tuesday 11:30 am
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>>23829
This is why living in a decent area is a bad idea.
>> No. 23831 Anonymous
7th April 2020
Tuesday 11:49 am
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>>23829
One of my neighbours was mowing the lawn at 9am this morning so he can go and fuck himself with a rake.
>> No. 23832 Anonymous
7th April 2020
Tuesday 11:54 am
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I haven't quite understood the purpose of this thread.
>> No. 23833 Anonymous
7th April 2020
Tuesday 11:55 am
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>>23832
Have you read the manual? Computers aren't for everyone but if you haven't even read the manual you're obviously not going to know what's going on.
>> No. 23834 Anonymous
7th April 2020
Tuesday 11:57 am
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If Boris croaks this whole country's gonna blow.
>> No. 23835 Anonymous
7th April 2020
Tuesday 11:59 am
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>>23834

How?
>> No. 23836 Anonymous
7th April 2020
Tuesday 12:17 pm
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>>23834
They'll just stuff him with hay and prop him up and do a voice over if that happens.
>> No. 23837 Anonymous
7th April 2020
Tuesday 12:20 pm
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>>23836
I could imagine Dominic Raab wearing him like some sort of skin suit.
>> No. 23838 Anonymous
7th April 2020
Tuesday 12:47 pm
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>>23832
Mr. Biffo shitposting
>> No. 23839 Anonymous
7th April 2020
Tuesday 12:50 pm
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>>23838

Biffo's missus is fit as fuck.


>> No. 23840 Anonymous
7th April 2020
Tuesday 12:59 pm
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/07/new-zealand-health-minister-demoted-after-beach-visit-broke-lockdown-rules


>New Zealand health minister demoted after beach visit broke lockdown rules

>David Clark called himself an ‘idiot’ for driving his family 20km to the beach on the first weekend of the national stay-at-home measures
>> No. 23841 Anonymous
7th April 2020
Tuesday 1:16 pm
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>>23819

After all it turned out you really, really, didn't want Dominic "Licky Fingers" Raab as prime minister.

>>23836
pic related
>> No. 23842 Anonymous
7th April 2020
Tuesday 1:31 pm
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>>23836

A country led by a Newgrounds Flash Soundboard
>> No. 23846 Anonymous
7th April 2020
Tuesday 2:15 pm
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Beeb won't let me access old In Our Time episodes. Time to 3D print a gun, I guess.
>> No. 23847 Anonymous
7th April 2020
Tuesday 2:16 pm
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>>23842

Andrew Marr: These figures are damning, Priminister. People are dying as a direct result of your decision not to lock down the country based on the advice of behavioural scientists and "game theory".

Borbot: PING PONG IS COMING HOME!
>> No. 23848 Anonymous
7th April 2020
Tuesday 2:23 pm
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>>23838 >>23839
Get a room. He might deserve to sit alongside the likes of Ashens, Tom Scott, bigclivedotcom, ralfydotcom and photonicinduction as a resident gs YouTuber but without watching that I very much doubt it.
>> No. 23863 Anonymous
7th April 2020
Tuesday 4:52 pm
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Clapping for Boris is a form of assault and I retain my right to self-defense.
>> No. 23864 Anonymous
7th April 2020
Tuesday 5:37 pm
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>>23848

Biffo is a legend and if you're any sort of britfa you'd be welcoming the godfather of teletext with open arms.
>> No. 23866 Anonymous
7th April 2020
Tuesday 5:39 pm
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Not great.

Apologies to you lads watching in 256 colours.
>> No. 23867 Anonymous
7th April 2020
Tuesday 5:43 pm
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>>23866

I've only got a green and black 8" display attached to my Atari 2600 but I'm assuming that means that we haven't flattened the curve.
>> No. 23868 Anonymous
7th April 2020
Tuesday 5:53 pm
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>>23866
My ABC-80 doesn't support .jpgs.
>> No. 23869 Anonymous
7th April 2020
Tuesday 6:39 pm
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ra50bmI50kA
>> No. 23870 Anonymous
7th April 2020
Tuesday 6:44 pm
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>>23866
While dishonest i can certainly understand the reasoning for adjusting the numbers, or maintaining strict measures on identifying the virus.
If people were crazed on toilet paper, to the extent of mugging the aged, what will we do if the pandemic appeared much more severe? A friend of mine used to boast how he'd basically become a tyrant if shit hit the fan and he's exactly the type to rise to the hysteria. Thankfully his response has been much less directly explosive than that but i can see him and plenty of others working themselves and their communities into a state of pure panic.

We need to keep a calm head on things and this is a way of doing that, for the time being. What are the alternatives; tell the raw facts and risk a nation in chaos? (I'm in a reletively unaffected area, maybe it's worse in Lundun).

As a side note, a friend of mine developed significant corona like symptoms after intimate contact with a another who's since been confirmed as carrying the virus (outside of the country). The friend was hospitalised but her tests returned negative. There was a delay on test results and she says they didn't take samples very well, but ultimately she's got off lightly with only the use of antibiotics and an inhaler. Another friend was in prolonged immidiate contact with this person but appears to be clear of any symptoms, up to 10 days later.
Now i don't know what i'm talking about, but i'm wondering if my friends illness might be a less lethal strain or copycat kind of virus rather than full blown corona, therefore not reaching the criteria to be recorded on the government tally. Or maybe she did have it and and somehow didn't pass it to the otherfriend - which in itself seems a miricle as they were living in close proximity for 7 days or so. Either way, the results are good and both have isolated themselves just to be sure - the results of which can only be considered constructive even if the case wasn't counted.

But then again don't they say to judge by actions, not intention? Maybe i'm an arsehole.
>> No. 23871 Anonymous
7th April 2020
Tuesday 6:48 pm
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>>23869

Sad to see that Conor McGregor has relapsed again.
>> No. 23872 Anonymous
7th April 2020
Tuesday 6:55 pm
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>>23870
>maybe it's worse in Lundun
There was someone doing handbrake turns on the main road earlier and about 70% of the people I passed outdoors were either drunk or carrying bottles of alcohol so fairly normal as far as London goes.
>> No. 23873 Anonymous
7th April 2020
Tuesday 7:08 pm
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>>23868

Neither does my Roland CR-78.
>> No. 23874 Anonymous
7th April 2020
Tuesday 8:15 pm
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My friend's got a text from the NHS today telling them they're at high risk of severe illness if they catch coronavirus so they have to remain at home for 12 weeks unless a healthcare professional tells them to leave. It seems a bit late in the day for this sort of thing.
>> No. 23875 Anonymous
7th April 2020
Tuesday 8:44 pm
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Happy to say that nobody in my street clapped.
>> No. 23880 Anonymous
7th April 2020
Tuesday 9:39 pm
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Revealed: Donald Trump has a 'small financial interest' in hydroxychloroquine firm and was lobbied in the Oval Office by Fox News host Laura Ingraham before praising it at White House briefing

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8196061/Trump-small-financial-hydroxychloroquine-firm-lobbied-Laura-Ingraham.html
>> No. 23881 Anonymous
7th April 2020
Tuesday 9:39 pm
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>>23875
I slept through it. I suppose it's better not to know.
>> No. 23882 Anonymous
7th April 2020
Tuesday 9:47 pm
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Thoughts and prayers go out to your political vacuum Mr. Boris.
>> No. 23883 Anonymous
7th April 2020
Tuesday 10:31 pm
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>>23882
Well at least we've moved on from pigs.
>> No. 23890 Anonymous
8th April 2020
Wednesday 7:56 am
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ONE MONTH OF RAAB.
>> No. 23891 Anonymous
8th April 2020
Wednesday 8:52 am
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>>23890
>helps people breath
I knew it. Which one of you two writes for the Sun?
>> No. 23892 Anonymous
8th April 2020
Wednesday 9:16 am
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>>23891
Have some respect. We'd never stoop to The Sun; that's clearly the work of Mail Online.
>> No. 23893 Anonymous
8th April 2020
Wednesday 3:15 pm
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbW7pVaKDdM

Pay debts, China!
>> No. 23894 Anonymous
8th April 2020
Wednesday 3:24 pm
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>>23893

Meanwhile in Wuhan:


>> No. 23895 Anonymous
8th April 2020
Wednesday 3:30 pm
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Damn, they've followed up about my offer to volunteer during this thing. I'm going to have to start wearing clean clothes and stuff again.
>> No. 23896 Anonymous
8th April 2020
Wednesday 8:29 pm
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>>23643
>UK's coronavirus crisis kills a Briton every TWO MINUTES as figures show Birmingham is England's hotspot with almost 1,400 cases

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8199363/UKs-coronavirus-crisis-kills-Briton-TWO-MINUTES-Birmingham-Englands-hotspot.html

>BAME groups hit harder by Covid-19 than white people, UK study suggests

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/07/bame-groups-hit-harder-covid-19-than-white-people-uk

See? It's all that cousin fucking.
>> No. 23897 Anonymous
8th April 2020
Wednesday 8:43 pm
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>>23896

Is that why Boris and Charles and other poshos are getting it too?
>> No. 23898 Anonymous
8th April 2020
Wednesday 8:56 pm
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>>23897
Inbreeding in the aristocracy is certainly unheard of.
>> No. 23899 Anonymous
8th April 2020
Wednesday 9:16 pm
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>>23896
It's also the fact that a lot live with 3 or 4 generations all under one roof
>> No. 23900 Anonymous
8th April 2020
Wednesday 10:19 pm
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>>23899

Fritzl would have been fucked.
>> No. 23901 Anonymous
9th April 2020
Thursday 10:17 am
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>> No. 23902 Anonymous
9th April 2020
Thursday 11:59 am
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USA will be up to 500,000 cases and 20,000 deaths in a few days.
>> No. 23903 Anonymous
9th April 2020
Thursday 12:40 pm
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Anybody wonder why the Norks don't have it?
>> No. 23904 Anonymous
9th April 2020
Thursday 12:43 pm
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>>23903

Good border control.
>> No. 23905 Anonymous
9th April 2020
Thursday 12:59 pm
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The deadliest day reported in Italy was 971 deaths, in Spain 950.

We had 938 deaths yesterday and expected to continue to rise.
>> No. 23906 Anonymous
9th April 2020
Thursday 1:38 pm
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>>23905
Classic British exceptionalism. We won't let ourselves be outdone by a gaggle of no-good dagos and greaseballs.
>> No. 23907 Anonymous
9th April 2020
Thursday 4:08 pm
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>> No. 23908 Anonymous
9th April 2020
Thursday 4:56 pm
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>>23907
Thanks for that. I had £50 on ebola. Waste of my money.
>> No. 23909 Anonymous
9th April 2020
Thursday 5:31 pm
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>>23907
So we've got people complaining about long threads on their shite machines but autoplaying gifs are fine?
>> No. 23910 Anonymous
9th April 2020
Thursday 5:33 pm
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>>23909
Yes.
>> No. 23911 Anonymous
9th April 2020
Thursday 5:38 pm
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>>23909
Absolutely.
>> No. 23912 Anonymous
9th April 2020
Thursday 6:14 pm
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Feel like pure shit. Just want to go down the pub with the boys.
>> No. 23913 Anonymous
9th April 2020
Thursday 6:52 pm
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>>23870
I was really hoping someone would contest this so i may learn something.
>> No. 23914 Anonymous
9th April 2020
Thursday 7:36 pm
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>>23913

Contest what exactly?

The opposite point could be made that the govt has it in their own best interests to oversell the severity of the pandemic to encourage compliance with distancing measures.

If people think that the disease isn't an issue, they'll continue to socialize and the spread will place sufficient stress in the NHS that it becomes an issue.

Depending on what model you look at, our numbers appear lower at this point in the development of the pandemic than what was predicted.

When numbers start going down, people stop complying with distancing and numbers start to climb again.

With regards to inaccurate reporting of numbers, there are a number of non-political reasons this is an issue. We don't have enough tests so it is impossible to test everyone. So we are only testing those with severe symptoms. This means that all the data we have regarding morbidity and mortality is skewed towards the worst cases.

If somebody develops COVID-19 and dies of a heart attack while infected. Do you count them as a COVID-19 death or not?

If somebody dies of COVID-19 before being tested, they should really be tested to ensure the numbers are as accurate as possible, but being that there isn't even enough testing capacity to be routinely looking at front line healthcare workers, how are you going to waste a test on a corpse?

People in Oxford are currently testing 3000 people for COVID-19 with antibody tests to get a better handle on the actual number of infections in the population. A group in Germany is performing a similar study. Looking at the cult in South Korea, a much higher percentage of people were infected than required medical attention.

I think with this virus, we're going to find that a lot more people are infected, or have been infected, than we realise and that the morbidity/mortality of the virus is not as bad as it currently appears.

The issues presented by COVID-19 are not biological, nor medical. They are economic. If the NHS hadn't been starved of funds for a decade this would be less of an issue. If more doctors and nurses had been trained over the last 10 years in order to accomodate population increase and demographic shifts towards elderly this would have been more managable. If global supply chains weren't optimized only to maximize profit margins and instead were engineered with redundancy and contingency in place, this would be less of a problem.

You'll have a vaccine in 18 months if you're lucky. Antivirals will never be an effective treatment for this disease. The key to minimizing the harm caused by COVID-19 is to maximize the number of ventilators and trained staff available to deal with the minority of cases that require intensive care.
>> No. 23915 Anonymous
9th April 2020
Thursday 10:07 pm
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ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
>> No. 23916 Anonymous
9th April 2020
Thursday 10:11 pm
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>>23866

Do you have the actual source on that chart lad? It obviously says FT, but do you have a link to the article? Because it looks remarkably like scaremongering bullshit.
>> No. 23918 Anonymous
9th April 2020
Thursday 10:21 pm
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>>23912

Go on Nige, show us your bollocks, why don't you. You're halfway there already.
>> No. 23919 Anonymous
9th April 2020
Thursday 10:24 pm
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>>23915

This also looks remarkably like scaremongering bullshit too. Scaremongering bullshit that needs to be watched on at least 1.5x speed.
>> No. 23920 Anonymous
9th April 2020
Thursday 10:57 pm
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>>23915

>ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

I don't really know why this would be your response. Obviously biolabs work on viruses.
>> No. 23921 Anonymous
9th April 2020
Thursday 11:05 pm
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>>23918

Sign up to the Onlyfans like everybody else peasant.
>> No. 23922 Anonymous
9th April 2020
Thursday 11:10 pm
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>>23920

Everybody knows that Wuhan Institute of Technology hired a new Post-Doc in November and he didn't wash his hands and that is how the gain-of-function bat virus escaped.

Nobody in Wuhan could admit this at the time (and still can't) because it would result in a massive loss of face, which we all know is the worst possible outcome for anything.

The head of the Provence then held a feast of 40,000 people communally following this as a show of face to assuage the fears of the people because there's nothing to worry about, a little bit of laduzi, a little bit of pneumonia never hurt anyone who mattered.

Lol jokes. Zoonotic diseases emerge in literally every country, literally every other month and there is nothing that can be done to prevent this, or stem the spread of these when they arise.
>> No. 23923 Anonymous
9th April 2020
Thursday 11:14 pm
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>>23922

http://www.whiov.cas.cn/105341/201911/t20191118_5438006.html
>> No. 23924 Anonymous
9th April 2020
Thursday 11:15 pm
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>>23916

The data is accurate - the time lag on death reporting (particularly for out-of-hospital deaths) means that the daily reported death toll is a significant under-estimate; many of the deaths being reported as part of today's toll actually happened several days ago. On top of that, we're bottlenecked by testing capacity - we can do about 10,000 tests per day, but it often takes three or four tests per patient to get an accurate result. This means that both the daily new cases and the daily deaths figure represents the upper bound of our testing capacity, not the actual number of cases.
>> No. 23925 Anonymous
10th April 2020
Friday 12:58 am
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>>23924

Your answer doesn't demonstrate that the chart is true. It just offers speculation as to why the chart might be true and that is as good as rumour. Truthiness if you will.

If you have a link to the orginal article or another article to that affect which reports on this alleged death - confirmation gap or a link to NHS death records for recent days that I could use confirm this to be the case that would satisfy my doubt.
>> No. 23926 Anonymous
10th April 2020
Friday 1:19 am
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>>23925

The FT is paywalled, but here's the Twitter thread from the FT's economics editor, the source data from the ONS and a couple of relevant articles from The Guardian.

https://twitter.com/ChrisGiles_/status/1247458186300456960

https://t.co/V3INF4Y7nw

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/04/why-what-we-think-we-know-about-the-uks-coronavirus-death-toll-is-wrong

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/09/covid-19-hundreds-of-uk-care-home-deaths-not-added-to-official-toll
>> No. 23927 Anonymous
10th April 2020
Friday 2:03 am
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>>23926

Looked into the figures on that sheet it looks accurate, it seems mostly that the NHS aren't in a rush normally to declare a deaths and cause of death so they aren't included in the 'up to date' figures, as you said.

Nothing sinister, just that level of immediate reporting is not normally expected proceedure as far as I can tell.
>> No. 23928 Anonymous
10th April 2020
Friday 10:51 am
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>>23926
Problem with the ONS report is that they're doing a very simplistic search for mentions of covid-19 on death certificates, there's no context.
A lot of these additional numbers will be either where covid has been mentioned as a possible contributing factpr or simply be pure speculation of the coroners.
>> No. 23929 Anonymous
10th April 2020
Friday 11:03 am
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>>23928
Other problem being there are plenty of people dying at home and in care homes from covid-19 that are being ignored or not counted.
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10th April 2020
Friday 11:21 am
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>> No. 23931 Anonymous
10th April 2020
Friday 11:33 am
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>>23930
Google finds two articles that image appeared in from the same source: one suggesting the police are going to start getting tougher on enforcement and another from three hours later quoting the Home Secretary saying "no they ain't".
>> No. 23932 Anonymous
10th April 2020
Friday 11:38 am
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>>23929

That isn't a thing that happens. People obviously do die at home but the idea that no one ever looks into the cause of death and it isn't recorded is simply untrue.
>> No. 23933 Anonymous
10th April 2020
Friday 11:44 am
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>>23932
I know the bodies weren't found in a dwelling but what happened with the Stephen Port murders make me question that assertion.
>> No. 23934 Anonymous
10th April 2020
Friday 11:51 am
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>>23931
It was from a Mail article but they appear to have since removed the image from it. Is Priti Patel actually trusted to do stuff now?
>> No. 23935 Anonymous
10th April 2020
Friday 12:12 pm
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>>23193
>https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/03/20/exhausted-nurses-overwhelmed-london-hospital-wore-bin-bags-protect/

They apparently tested positive recently.

>>23193">https://metro.co.uk/2020/04/08/nurses-wore-bin-bags-due-ppe-shortage-test-positive-coronavirus-12530286/>>23193
>> No. 23936 Anonymous
10th April 2020
Friday 12:16 pm
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>>23932
>That isn't a thing that happens.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/09/covid-19-hundreds-of-uk-care-home-deaths-not-added-to-official-toll
Why do you say things with such confidence when you haven't the slightest idea what you're talking about? Is this the Dunning-Kreuger effect in action?
>> No. 23937 Anonymous
10th April 2020
Friday 12:28 pm
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>>23935
>>23185

>https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/03/20/exhausted-nurses-overwhelmed-london-hospital-wore-bin-bags-protect/

I'll try not to fuck it up this time.

https://metro.co.uk/2020/04/08/nurses-wore-bin-bags-due-ppe-shortage-test-positive-coronavirus-12530286/
>> No. 23938 Anonymous
10th April 2020
Friday 1:00 pm
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>>23937

Just wait for the otherlad to come along and say that's all made up because the bins he uses aren't blue.
>> No. 23939 Anonymous
10th April 2020
Friday 1:42 pm
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>>23933

You mean when the original inquests into the deaths returned open verdicts and the coroner stated “some concerns surrounding Daniel's death which have not been answered by the police investigation".

The police mishandled it because the police are homophobic barbarians with state approval that roam the countryside, the ONS and Coroners’ Society of England & Wales rarely make assumptions and come up with definitive answers.
>> No. 23940 Anonymous
10th April 2020
Friday 1:45 pm
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>>23936

I'll side with a random bloke over the internet who claims to know what he;s on about over a Guardian journo who definitely doesn't know what they're on about, TBQPFH m8.
>> No. 23941 Anonymous
10th April 2020
Friday 1:47 pm
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>>23936

They aren't added at that point because they haven't been fully recorded yet. they won't appear on those figures because the coronor hadn't reached a conclusion at the time. Of course they end up in official figures they just aren't in your 24 hour around the clock up to date scaremongering reporting you spazpot.

This is the media making their own story they push for the numbers known at a certain point then act shocked when those numbers need to be revised later.
>> No. 23942 Anonymous
10th April 2020
Friday 2:30 pm
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>>23941

So what you're saying is there are plenty of people dying at home and in care homes from covid-19 that are being ignored or not counted.
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10th April 2020
Friday 2:55 pm
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>>23942

That isn't what I said at all. No one is ignoring them. They are never ignored. And they are being counted, they just arent making the news the same day. Just because you don't understand in the real world results don't appear instantly doesn't mean they don't appear.
>> No. 23944 Anonymous
10th April 2020
Friday 3:08 pm
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>> No. 23945 Anonymous
10th April 2020
Friday 4:57 pm
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>>23943
They're dying and they're not being counted yet which doesn't contradict the original statement, the one that you said was wrong because they will eventually be counted, you reckon, at some unspecified point in the future; because the government definitely isn't trying to play down the number of deaths in order to get back to business as usual, the Tories would never do that despite all the evidence of them already having started doing it.
>> No. 23947 Anonymous
10th April 2020
Friday 5:00 pm
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>>23945

I really don't think you get it.

Doctor man tell office man about death, but sometime doctor man don't do telling until tomorrow after death, but office man still need to tell death every day, so he say what he see, OK?
>> No. 23948 Anonymous
10th April 2020
Friday 5:44 pm
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>>23945

>the Tories would never do that despite all the evidence of them already having started doing it.

Glad we can all agree that, even though some papers are desperate for views, the government is subject to the same administrative problems that we all face in life. It's good to see you behind your government!
>> No. 23949 Anonymous
10th April 2020
Friday 5:49 pm
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>>23947

If they're not being counted at the moment then they're not being counted, that's how the present tense works.
>> No. 23950 Anonymous
10th April 2020
Friday 6:03 pm
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So basically we're all being massive pedants for the sake of having the biggest fear/outrage boner?

MASS GRAVES IN NEW YORK!

Nobody spending five minutes to find out they're the same mass graves New York has always had, because if you die in America without a funeral plan or a family that can afford it (which is a lot of Americans) that's just what they do with you. Not black death plague pits.
>> No. 23951 Anonymous
10th April 2020
Friday 6:11 pm
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>>23869
Painfully unfunny. Has any video this man's made been remotely close to being witty or clever?
>> No. 23952 Anonymous
10th April 2020
Friday 6:14 pm
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>>23950
>MASS GRAVES IN NEW YORK!

You watched that David Icke video, didn't you ;)
>> No. 23953 Anonymous
10th April 2020
Friday 6:53 pm
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>>23950

>Normally, about 25 bodies a week are interred on the island, according to the Associated Press news agency.

>But burial operations have increased from one day a week to five days a week, with around 24 burials each day, said Department of Correction spokesman Jason Kersten.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52241221
>> No. 23954 Anonymous
10th April 2020
Friday 8:48 pm
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Was just sitting outside and heard the neighbour spewing the base-level "do your research" conspiracy bollocks.

Aside from half of the science being so completely wrong, he was also saying that "St. Corona is the patron saint of epidemics". Seriously? For someone who's "done their research", that didn't seem to extend to a single search, or if you don't trust that, opening a catholic text?

Also that the WHO is 100% privately funded by Bill Gates.

Wanted to pipe up and say something but there's no point with these people.
>> No. 23955 Anonymous
10th April 2020
Friday 8:53 pm
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>>23954

More of a case for Saint Jude.
>> No. 23956 Anonymous
10th April 2020
Friday 9:17 pm
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>>23953

So what's your point? Of course they're being used more when more people are dying. That's how people dying works.

It doesn't suddenly make it into the scary story the newspapers are trying to spin it as.
>> No. 23957 Anonymous
10th April 2020
Friday 9:26 pm
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>>23956

Significantly more people dying than usual isn't scary?
>> No. 23959 Anonymous
10th April 2020
Friday 9:33 pm
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>>23957

No, it's kind of what you expect when there's a pandemic going on.

Get a grip vaginalad, for christ's sake.
>> No. 23960 Anonymous
10th April 2020
Friday 9:38 pm
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>>23959
By that logic, if someone's running at you with a knife you shouldn't be scared of being stabbed because it's what you'd expect?
>> No. 23961 Anonymous
10th April 2020
Friday 9:44 pm
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>>23960
Clearly you should be more scared when you're completely safe because you're not expecting to die.
>> No. 23962 Anonymous
10th April 2020
Friday 9:53 pm
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>>23960

Being scared of an actual knife is a bit different than being scared due to media sensationalism about knives.
>> No. 23963 Anonymous
10th April 2020
Friday 9:53 pm
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I'm doing loads of exercise.
If you can't find a way to do 20k before 9am
I'm finding it hard to lift, as a juduka
The floor is a recovery
>> No. 23964 Anonymous
10th April 2020
Friday 9:54 pm
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>>23963

Abstract poetry goes in /lit/ or /iq/ m8.
>> No. 23965 Anonymous
10th April 2020
Friday 10:46 pm
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>>23959

Give your head a wobble you stupid cunt.
>> No. 23966 Anonymous
10th April 2020
Friday 10:49 pm
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>>23962

How many people have to die before it's not sensationalism and we're right to be worried?
>> No. 23968 Anonymous
10th April 2020
Friday 11:19 pm
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>>23957

A live body and a dead body contain the same number of particles. Structurally, there's no discernible difference.

100,000 people out of 7 billion is not statistically significant.

The only thing that matters is that the stock market does well.

This is presumably the philosophy of the people in charge.
>> No. 23969 Anonymous
10th April 2020
Friday 11:20 pm
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>>23967

The point is that screaming MASS GRAVES is a known psychological trigger, it conjures up images unmarked open pits where bodies are piled up like refuse. We already know the number of deaths per day, we know it's getting worse, it doesn't need to be sensationalised in this way.
>> No. 23970 Anonymous
10th April 2020
Friday 11:20 pm
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>>23966

Just one person. But it has to be a proper famous person.
>> No. 23971 Anonymous
10th April 2020
Friday 11:44 pm
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>>23960

Well, knife crime is at the highest levels since records began, so maybe you should be scared of that, if the amount of people dying on the other side of the Atlantic is enough to trouble you.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47156957

I shouldn't have to point out that everyone fully expected America to be hit like a freight train if this disease reached them, because they have absolutely no public healthcare system to speak of.

Honestly though people who are scared of covid are dickheads. There are very clear steps you can take to protect yourself, and as long as you're not one of the fucking inbreds who have lost the plot and started soaking their groceries in bleach you should be able to assure yourself pretty rationally that you will be okay.
>> No. 23972 Anonymous
10th April 2020
Friday 11:50 pm
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>>23971

Maybe the people who are scared are at risk? I understand the need to be a contrarian but thinking it's unreasonable to be "troubled" by a pandemic is ludicous.
>> No. 23973 Anonymous
10th April 2020
Friday 11:57 pm
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>>23971

My missus is one of those loony inbreads who has started soaking her groceries in bleach, what makes it amusing is that in normal circumstances she is slobby as fuck. Her bedroom at any given moment looks like a hurricane hit it with dirty clothes scattered all over the floor, her bathroom is a fucking health hazard with cockroaches crawling everywhere and dried menstrual blood caked on the underside of her toilet seat, but she suddenly feels the desperate need to bleach her vegetables and rinse every single item she buys from the supermarket because of some video she saw on Facebook, or something. Women are utterly incomprehensible.
>> No. 23974 Anonymous
11th April 2020
Saturday 12:28 am
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>>23973
> loony inbreads

Is that some new kind of stuffed loaf born of this sudden rush of artisan home baking?
>> No. 23975 Anonymous
11th April 2020
Saturday 12:33 am
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>>23971

>shouldn't have to point out that everyone fully expected America to be hit like a freight train if this disease reached them, because they have absolutely no public healthcare system to speak of.

The fact that they have a republican senate with Trump as President makes me feel like this is 100 times worse than it could be. The idea that this was a democrat conspiracy and fear mongering was the partyline up until trump declared 100k dead and they just processed that immediately like it was acceptable losses in the name of the economy and that Trump was distracted by the fake impeachment by the democrats so it is their fault these people have to die he is only doing his best, like that wasn't contradictory to the rhetoric of 5 mins beforehand, it is real 'we have always been at war with Eastasia' shit.

>There are very clear steps you can take to protect yourself, and as long as you're not one of the fucking inbreds who have lost the plot and started soaking their groceries in bleach you should be able to assure yourself pretty rationally that you will be okay.

The problem is not me, the problem is everyone I am required to interact with a chain is only as strong as the weakest link.
>> No. 23976 Anonymous
11th April 2020
Saturday 3:12 am
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>>23975

Honestly what would have been the difference with the democrats in charge, though? The futility of discussing American politics this way is just unbearable. There's barely a pube's width between the parties on substantial policy.

It's just America. They're an individualistic society, that means if something like a massive epidemic hits, it's everyone for themselves. If you're one of the poor sods who has to keep going out to work, that's a you problem. You should have built a bunker full of jarred food and assault rifles just in case, like a responsible American.
>> No. 23977 Anonymous
11th April 2020
Saturday 3:25 am
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>>23976

The biggest difference was that Obama put a load of procedures in place to preempt this kind of scenario and Trump stripped it all out as soon as he got in. You also wouldn't find a democrate president advising people drink poison. Stop the 'they are just as bad as each other bolocks' we all know they aren't.
>> No. 23978 Anonymous
11th April 2020
Saturday 3:39 am
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>>23977

They are though. The Democrats are a centre-right party every bit as concerned with serving business interests and jingoism first and foremost. Stop pretending they are different.

The best you can say is that one of them is more supportive of things like abortion rights, but none of that makes a difference because in practical terms most American social policy is state level. Even Obama's healthcare bill was a colossal fuck up, and his foreign policy remained practically unchanged from that of Bush.

If we're being exceptionally generous, we can imagine a Democrat administration taking faster steps to counter the spread of coronavirus. But without public health infrastructure there's little they could have done differently after the spread had started accelerating. American government is extremely hands-off, by design, regardless who's in charge.
>> No. 23979 Anonymous
11th April 2020
Saturday 4:14 am
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>>23978
Grandaaaad, the spinny thing has got stuck again!
>> No. 23980 Anonymous
11th April 2020
Saturday 12:13 pm
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>>23979

Muuuuuum, the man on the Internet won't stop being right!
>> No. 23981 Anonymous
11th April 2020
Saturday 12:16 pm
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>>23978
Well, Obama actually set up a pandemic response organisation that was widely lauded and quite probably would've led to a more timely response. Guess who shut it down?
>> No. 23982 Anonymous
11th April 2020
Saturday 1:03 pm
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>>23981

See the last paragraph. It would have seen a faster response, but the people getting seriously ill and dying would still have been fucked because neither that nor Obamacare changed anything much about the nonexistent public health infrastructure. American hospitals are luxury hotels, not emergency treatment centres.
>> No. 23983 Anonymous
11th April 2020
Saturday 1:06 pm
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>>23981

Yes I imagine for example no one would be having a circle jerk over what a great job he is doing if he managed to have five times as many cases as any other country not even his own party would support him.

The news networks would probably be having a teary that he took away their liberty unnecessarily and corona isn't a real threat whilst complaining Obama care doesn't work because he let 100 deaths happen by this point.

This is the worst character assination the right wing gutter press was able to come up with to attack Obama at one point.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=timvZTKr5HQ

Could you imagine saying that he is equivalent to Donald Trump and actually believing it?
>> No. 23984 Anonymous
11th April 2020
Saturday 1:08 pm
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>>23982

fast response is litterally everything in a pandemic, if you have a fast enough response people start complaining about what all the fuss was to begin with because you respond to the threat before it is an issue.
>> No. 23985 Anonymous
11th April 2020
Saturday 1:10 pm
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>>23983

Remember when he had dijon mustard too? What a cunt.

This sort of thing is unfathomable though, that they're actually serious. How any of these people can keep a straight face is beyond me, unless they're genuinely drinking the koolaid too.

I wonder if he'd have been a reckless idiot if he hadn't worn a helmet?
>> No. 23986 Anonymous
11th April 2020
Saturday 1:30 pm
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All this arguing is just making me glad labour didn't win the last election. Corbyn's plan to beat Corona: free broadband!
>> No. 23987 Anonymous
11th April 2020
Saturday 1:33 pm
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>>23983

Doesn't come entirely as a shock in a country where people still don't find a seat belt particularly necessary.

You're only really free if you're also free to smash your own head in falling off your bicycle.
>> No. 23988 Anonymous
11th April 2020
Saturday 1:35 pm
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>>23986
He'd have probably tried to open a dialogue with coronavirus about sharing sovereignty. The end result of this discussions would be a free council house and unlimited benefits for the virus.
>> No. 23989 Anonymous
11th April 2020
Saturday 1:59 pm
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>>23986

Didn't you lot keep telling us Corbyn was a totalitarian? Presumably he'd actually have acted in January to lock down ports of entry, or at the very least have had the gestapo measuring people's temperatures and welding blocks of flats shut.
>> No. 23990 Anonymous
11th April 2020
Saturday 2:04 pm
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>>23989

Now look here, you can't expect them to feel right all the time and be consistent.
>> No. 23991 Anonymous
11th April 2020
Saturday 2:06 pm
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Real pea-brain behavior to act all smug about the hypothetical bad job Corbyn would have done hours after Johnson was taken off a ventilator because of his own recklessness while the UK quickly makes it's way up "most knackered by COVID-19" list for reasons directly related to his government's handling of the situation, but alright, it's a four day weekend in lockdown, you do what you need to to get through it.
>> No. 23992 Anonymous
11th April 2020
Saturday 2:10 pm
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So Obamacare is being criticised here for not improving health infrastructure when to my knowledge that was never the direct intention of that legislation, it was about making healthcare affordable, hence the name Affordable Care Act.

I'm mainly taking cues from that meme comic that explained the law, but to sum up: insurers can no longer deny policies on the basis of pre-existing conditions, and in return it is mandatory for everyone to be insured, with support for the poor through a means-tested benefit. Thus it tackles the problem of many people being uninsured and being unable to pay for care when they become sick. Am I missing anything?
>> No. 23993 Anonymous
11th April 2020
Saturday 2:21 pm
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>>23992
>Am I missing anything?
Yeah the slow boat to New York.
>> No. 23994 Anonymous
11th April 2020
Saturday 2:22 pm
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>>23991
It's easy to be critical with the benefit of hindsight.
>> No. 23995 Anonymous
11th April 2020
Saturday 2:46 pm
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>>23994
And foresight too.
>> No. 23996 Anonymous
11th April 2020
Saturday 2:53 pm
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>>23992

> and in return it is mandatory for everyone to be insured, with support for the poor through a means-tested benefit. Thus it tackles the problem of many people being uninsured and being unable to pay for care when they become sick.


You're underestimating America's view on poverty. People who are rich, and dictate politics in the U.S. through their networks and old boys clubs, are basically stuck in a Dickensian-era workhouse mindset that poverty is a character flaw that is your own fault as the pauper who suffers from it. Why should the rich give to you, when you have failed to become one of them?

Then, of course, you also have the question how charity as a concept fits into that. Charities to help the poor are abundant in the U.S., much more so than in Britain. But my perception is that a lot of it is a welcome fig leaf, both so that rich people can feel less guilty about their wealth, and to give themselves a veneer of social responsibility, when in reality, they don't care diddly squat about the poor. Add to that a general reluctance by many Americans towards the concept of government-controlled wealth redistribution, and it goes a long way explaining why Republicans in particular were so up in arms about even the idea of Obamacare.
>> No. 23997 Anonymous
11th April 2020
Saturday 3:10 pm
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>>23995
Cool your jets, Mystic Meg.
>> No. 23998 Anonymous
11th April 2020
Saturday 5:08 pm
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>>23992

Yeah, you're missing a fuck of a lot to be honest lad. Mandatory health insurance doesn't translate to people actually being treated. It means a lot of people on paper have insurance, and that's about fucking it.

There's a good documentary about how many people in the States still get payouts declined by insurers in the states but I can't be bothered to find it because you've clearly got your tongue so far up Obama's chocolatey arse you wouldn't believe it anyway.

Biden is going to lose to Trump and we're going to have another four years of that colossal dickhead anyway, so I really don't understand what Democrat-lad is gaining by standing up for them. The Democratic part are comfortably to the right of even our Tory party, I don't understand why you're fantasising otherwise.
>> No. 23999 Anonymous
11th April 2020
Saturday 5:18 pm
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>>23998
>The Democratic part are comfortably to the right of even our Tory party

I wish people would stop mindlessly repeating this.
>> No. 24000 Anonymous
11th April 2020
Saturday 5:19 pm
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I was eating rather well in lockdown, but in the last few days I've realised how easy and quick it is to whip up chocolate shortbread and it's all going downhill very quickly.
>> No. 24001 Anonymous
11th April 2020
Saturday 5:43 pm
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It's starting to feel like it'll be luck if you avoid getting it by now.
>> No. 24002 Anonymous
11th April 2020
Saturday 6:21 pm
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>>23994

It's easy to be critical when you entirely invent someone's failings and then criticise those.
>> No. 24003 Anonymous
11th April 2020
Saturday 6:22 pm
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>>23999

Why isn't it true?
>> No. 24004 Anonymous
11th April 2020
Saturday 6:42 pm
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>>24003
It's different cheeks of the same arse.

Johnson was too slow to react to the pandemic because he was more concerned with the economic impact and was following the judgement of Cummings. If Corbyn was in charge he'd react to the crisis in his usual way by being paralysed by indecision, too fearful that the Graun would brand him racist if he shut the borders, before dithering into a compromise that satisfies nobody.
>> No. 24005 Anonymous
11th April 2020
Saturday 6:47 pm
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>>24004

In what way are those two completely different reactions and reasons for them "different cheeks of the same arse"?
>> No. 24006 Anonymous
11th April 2020
Saturday 7:17 pm
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>>24004

None of that has anything to do with why or why not the US democrats are further right than the Tories.

Keep speculating on what Jezza would have done, though, it's obviously important enough to you that you don't bother reading the post I was replying to before attacking him.
>> No. 24007 Anonymous
11th April 2020
Saturday 7:40 pm
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>>24004
>It's different cheeks of the same arse.

I wish people would stop mindlessly repeating this too.

>>24003
Because it's not 2010 anymore.
>> No. 24008 Anonymous
11th April 2020
Saturday 7:45 pm
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>>24007

Great explanation mate.
>> No. 24009 Anonymous
11th April 2020
Saturday 7:46 pm
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>>23986
>Corbyn's plan to beat Corona: free broadband!

Actually he came out with a suggestion quite quickly in this crisis to close all the detention centres. That's ARE Corbyn, always looking out for his electoral base.

>>23992
>So Obamacare is being criticised here for not improving health infrastructure when to my knowledge that was never the direct intention of that legislation, it was about making healthcare affordable, hence the name Affordable Care Act.

Weird because it seems like the goal was actually to turn taxpayers upside-down and shake their pennies out for political benefactors in the medical industry. You know damn well that the system was deliberately broken from the start and the Democratic party won't be changing that anytime soon.
>> No. 24010 Anonymous
11th April 2020
Saturday 7:51 pm
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Sometimes I think it would be a good idea to have Socialism temporarily, like the ability of the state to shoot people that are coughing in the road. We'd all be starving but then again I need to lose a bit of weight, plus people are getting used to the supermarket queues. Except there wouldn't be any food and we'd all drink potato vodka.
>> No. 24011 Anonymous
11th April 2020
Saturday 8:00 pm
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>>24008
Ok I'll spell it out for you.

How many Tory voters describe themselves as socialists? That would have to be an entire wing of the party right? Seeing as many Democrats describe themselves as such (obviously not enough to get Bernie Sanders elected but some). Saying "the party that opposes socialism is to the left of the party that has many supporters who call themselves socialists" is utter gibberish. You heard it on a panel-show in 2010.
>> No. 24012 Anonymous
11th April 2020
Saturday 8:14 pm
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>>24011

How voters self describe is a terrible metric.
>> No. 24013 Anonymous
11th April 2020
Saturday 8:16 pm
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>>24012
Well of course you can pretend any party is anywhere on the political spectrum if you say everyone is lying about what they really believe.
>> No. 24014 Anonymous
11th April 2020
Saturday 8:19 pm
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>>24010
We do have socialism, what sort of septic shibboleth is that?
>> No. 24015 Anonymous
11th April 2020
Saturday 8:24 pm
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>>24009
>Actually he came out with a suggestion quite quickly in this crisis to close all the detention centres.
It's actually a very good suggestion. Large numbers of people, some of them very vulnerable, all concentrated in one place with less than brilliant health facilities. For the virus, that's like an all-you-can-eat buffet. Lawyers in the US have been trying (and succeeding) at getting people out of ICE custody for exactly the same reason.
>> No. 24016 Anonymous
11th April 2020
Saturday 8:40 pm
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>>24011

Sanders' policy positions are well to the left of Corbyn; his public spending commitments would make the American public spending the highest in the world as a share of GDP. Biden is firmly centrist/centre right, somewhere between Blair and Cameron.
>> No. 24017 Anonymous
11th April 2020
Saturday 8:45 pm
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>>24009
Sounds about right for Calamity Corbyn. Make Labour a complete irrelevance by focusing on things like illegal immigrants and how increased public spending to stop millions being made redundant proves he was right all along so has won the argument.
>> No. 24018 Anonymous
11th April 2020
Saturday 8:50 pm
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>>24016
>Sanders' policy positions are well to the left of Corbyn; his public spending commitments would make the American public spending the highest in the world as a share of GDP.

What does that have to do with the Tory party?

>Biden is firmly centrist/centre right, somewhere between Blair and Cameron.

I agree but again it's not really a response to anything I said.
>> No. 24019 Anonymous
11th April 2020
Saturday 9:18 pm
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>>24017
I think he's probably relieved that he didn't win the election by now.
>> No. 24020 Anonymous
11th April 2020
Saturday 9:34 pm
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DON'T FORGET TO CLAP FOR THE KIDDIEWINKS AGAIN TOMORROW.
>> No. 24021 Anonymous
11th April 2020
Saturday 10:24 pm
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>>24020

I can't wait for next week's: CLAP FOR THE CLAPPERS!
>> No. 24022 Anonymous
11th April 2020
Saturday 11:35 pm
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>>24020
Don't forget that the rabbit that normally brings them stuff for Zombie Jesus Chocolate Day has been furloughed this year.
>> No. 24023 Anonymous
12th April 2020
Sunday 8:20 am
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There's a piece in the Graun claiming that the reason coronavirus has been handled so badly is because all of the senior decision makers in government are male. Christ alive.
>> No. 24024 Anonymous
12th April 2020
Sunday 8:29 am
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>>24023
It's not the gender. They're just incompetent fuckwads.
>> No. 24025 Anonymous
12th April 2020
Sunday 8:52 am
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>>24020
If you don't clap the NHS you will be socially discredited. Few people Von my street whining about people not turning out lol.
>> No. 24026 Anonymous
12th April 2020
Sunday 9:28 am
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>>24024
Exactly. I wouldn't expect the response to have been more compassionate if the likes of Priti Patel, Theresa May, Theresa Villiers and Esther McVey had greater involvement. There's not much diversity of thought if they're all sociopaths.
>> No. 24028 Anonymous
12th April 2020
Sunday 11:20 am
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>>24023
Please stop reading thonk pieces, you'll only encourage more of them.

>>24026
Please stop using the term "sociopaths", psycopathy is one and the same and "sociopathy" generally refers to a Hollywood-ised version of the condition.
>> No. 24029 Anonymous
12th April 2020
Sunday 12:34 pm
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What will happen to our streets when only the autismos are allowed on it?

>>24028
>socio/psycopathy is one and the same
I thought it was defined by the root cause, ie nature/nurture?
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12th April 2020
Sunday 12:47 pm
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>>24029
>What will happen to our streets when only the autismos are allowed on it?
Autism hunting season.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-somerset-52217868
>> No. 24033 Anonymous
12th April 2020
Sunday 10:44 pm
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I, for one, do not even talk to strangers in a park. What do you reckon the nudge unit is going to do to ensure the compliance of us paranoid weirdos?
>> No. 24034 Anonymous
12th April 2020
Sunday 10:58 pm
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>>24033

Icke right again.
>> No. 24035 Anonymous
13th April 2020
Monday 12:31 am
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>>24033
This all hinges on how panel 2, 4 and 5 work, and I'd be genuinly curious to hear a crypto expert's explanation on how that works so that the key exchanged in 2 is not traceable in 5 or 6. If the middle man is treated as "secure" then its trivial, but 2 implies its P2P at least to some extent.

For this to work, though, I assume at least WiFi or Bluetooth is needed and unless BT connectivity is used, location services come into play. None of this bodes well for believable privacy.
>> No. 24037 Anonymous
13th April 2020
Monday 4:02 am
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>>24035

It's Bluetooth-based, because Bluetooth is actually more reliable in this application - Bluetooth can reliably detect proximity indoors, whereas the accuracy of GPS plummets if there's not line-of-sight with the sky.

The real problem is the conflict between privacy and security. The proposed system is as close to anonymous as you can reasonably get, but that anonymity means that the system has no verification. If I (or a naughty Russian) have the private key of someone who I know will test positive, I can set up a Bluetooth beacon in a train station and broadcast his public key, so everyone who passes through the station gets a ping later saying that they've been in contact with an infected person.
>> No. 24038 Anonymous
13th April 2020
Monday 5:27 am
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>>24037
That attack would not be very effective. Plus if everyone's on lockdown anyway, you won't get that many people passing through the station.

If you want to do serious harm, you need it to not register the traces of someone who's positive.
>> No. 24039 Anonymous
13th April 2020
Monday 5:40 am
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The whole point is that the app might allow us to relax lockdown measures. It's almost irrelevant whether you can block true positive contacts or create false positive contacts; the latter allows you to spam the system, reducing the signal-to-noise ratio to the point of uselessness. Imagine a smoke alarm that goes off 50 times a day for no reason - would that be a useful smoke alarm? We have no countermeasure for this attack that wouldn't reduce the anonymity of the system.
>> No. 24040 Anonymous
13th April 2020
Monday 5:47 am
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>>24039
If anything, some false positive contacts might lead to tests revealing previously unknown infected individuals, so it's not quite as useless as it seems unless you have the capability to inject truly large numbers of false positives.

There's also the small matter of "someone who you know will test positive".
>> No. 24041 Anonymous
13th April 2020
Monday 9:29 am
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If you get tested and told you have it, what then?
I only ask because if you get marked down as having it on the official figure but get told to go home and come back in 2 weeks to get retested?
The UK's recovered numbers are currently N/A but over the past few weeks were around 150, then 300 starting last week. Pretty fucking low compared to other countries.
>> No. 24042 Anonymous
13th April 2020
Monday 12:31 pm
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>> No. 24043 Anonymous
13th April 2020
Monday 1:09 pm
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ERi2cL730o
>> No. 24044 Anonymous
13th April 2020
Monday 1:34 pm
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>>24041

You either go to hospital and die, in which case you get put down in the red number. Or you stay at home and get better and everything's fine, in which case you'll be part of the green number in about a month when somebody at Big Statistic is spare to do the adding up.
>> No. 24045 Anonymous
13th April 2020
Monday 1:53 pm
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>>24030

How are you going to convince a passing copper though that you are autistic? Do you recite your town's bus schedule, or do you tell him unflattering things about his appearance at point blank?
>> No. 24046 Anonymous
13th April 2020
Monday 1:59 pm
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>>24043
Yes but thunderf00t is a colossally arrogant bellend. Whilst the majority of his videos are generally correct he has a bad habit of believing a lot of his own opinions and assumptions are hard facts.
He makes some good points but he's also scaremongering based on unrealistic worst case scenarios. Take his discussion on on the impact of death toll on the economy, he is working on the assumption that the deaths are equal across all age groups, and the assumption that the virus will eventually infect 100% of the population within months if left unchecked.
>> No. 24048 Anonymous
13th April 2020
Monday 2:25 pm
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>>24045
People with proper autism and children who are just a bit different will have someone with them to back it up. I assume everyone else will have some kind of doctors note for claiming bennies and getting workplace adjustments.

To be honest, I'm a bit disappointed at the supposed slide into 1980s policing. I'm told the police have carte blanche to wipe the floor with you but I've not seen this power being applied to all the low-level public menaces that make life more stressful. A complete douche was singing Bella Ciao shirtless with his acoustic guitar on a balcony yesterday - there's no justice.
>> No. 24049 Anonymous
13th April 2020
Monday 2:40 pm
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>I'm told the police have carte blanche to wipe the floor with you

I think early 2000s post-9/11 was the low point, and then of course the whole 7/7 hubbub in Britain, because that's when paranoia and racial profiling were at their height, and when police powers were extended and bent so that even harmless children could be investigated under anti-terrorism legislation. We've come back a bit from that, I think, and it's a bit too early to tell if all the lockdown measures have resulted in an abuse of police power.
>> No. 24050 Anonymous
13th April 2020
Monday 2:49 pm
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>How are you going to convince a passing copper though that you are autistic?

If you're one of us three, he'll be able to tell.
>> No. 24051 Anonymous
13th April 2020
Monday 4:14 pm
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Don't be daft, it's not even the same conversation. The arbitrary powers police had in the 1980s were different because the entire state apparatus would help cover it up and there was no Human Rights Act you could rely on. If there was a later peak it was with the Poll Tax Riots.

Terrorism was much closer to home and we'll probably never know the true extent of the abuses that went on.
>> No. 24052 Anonymous
13th April 2020
Monday 4:55 pm
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>The This Morning co-host Eamonn Holmes has suggested that it may “suit the state narrative” to dismiss false claims linking 5G technology and coronavirus.
>He told Beer: “I totally agree with everything you are saying but what I don’t accept is mainstream media immediately slapping that down as not true when they don’t know it’s not true. No one should attack or damage or do anything like that but it’s very easy to say it is not true because it suits the state narrative.”
>At least 20 phone masts across the UK are believed to have been set alight or vandalised since the start of the pandemic in connection to false 5G claims, according to government and industry sources, who said this month they were increasingly concerned about the impact of the baseless theories.

We are a power cut away from becoming the Central Africans hurling abuse at medical staff. A week of it and we'd be wearing wedding dresses and carrying machine guns.
>> No. 24053 Anonymous
13th April 2020
Monday 5:42 pm
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>>24052 He added: “That’s all I would say, as someone with an inquiring mind.”

Fucking hell, your mind isn't inquiring, that would require some effort you vacuous shit.
>> No. 24054 Anonymous
13th April 2020
Monday 5:59 pm
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>>24053

Are you having a teary at the poster or at Eamonn Holmes?
>> No. 24055 Anonymous
13th April 2020
Monday 6:08 pm
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>>24054
Most likely the poster. Eamon Holmes would never read it so it'd just be a teary in vain otherwise.
>> No. 24056 Anonymous
13th April 2020
Monday 6:13 pm
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>>24055

Considering that he's not quoting the poster I have to then assume that he's gone utterly nutcake.
>> No. 24057 Anonymous
13th April 2020
Monday 6:17 pm
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I am The Poster, The Replier is clearly referring to Eamonn Holmes.
>> No. 24058 Anonymous
13th April 2020
Monday 7:37 pm
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>>24055 Eamonn clearly gets his information from somewhere. Possibly it's from here, possibly it's pulled out of his arse. I'm trying to cover all possibilities, and will also be shoving a 30 volume set of 'Foundations of science for media fuckwits' up his arse later tonight.

Trolled to tears. It's been a while. Bloke's a cunt.
>> No. 24059 Anonymous
13th April 2020
Monday 8:44 pm
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3 of my relatives in Spain have died from corona. Would it be possible for me to sue China?
>> No. 24060 Anonymous
13th April 2020
Monday 9:28 pm
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>>24059
Order a Chinese takeaway but refuse to pay for it. That'll learn em.
>> No. 24061 Anonymous
14th April 2020
Tuesday 6:51 am
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Of all the "Brit cops acting silly during a pandemic" videos, this one has eroded my faith in policing the most. It has restored my faith in the British gentleman though.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dw5npI1_xNo
>> No. 24062 Anonymous
14th April 2020
Tuesday 7:11 am
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>>24061
Nice how they all congregate in the hall way while preaching social distancing.
>> No. 24063 Anonymous
14th April 2020
Tuesday 10:03 am
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>>24062
That's one aspect. Then there's how they walk in, touching door handles and surfaces and only one of them thinks to put gloves on, as she's about to leave. Never mind kicking someone's door through without a warrant.

Police have been grenaded in the UK fairly recently for far less (not that I would condone such violence obviously but there are some absolute madmen about).
>> No. 24065 Anonymous
14th April 2020
Tuesday 10:25 am
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>>24061

I already had no faith in the police, this just shows they can't even be competent at being fucking fascists.
>> No. 24066 Anonymous
14th April 2020
Tuesday 10:30 am
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>>24061
I like the guy's accent. He sounds like Devvo's granddad.
>> No. 24067 Anonymous
14th April 2020
Tuesday 10:33 am
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They're so uncommunicative, they don't even try to explain what's happening or why they're doing anything. I assume it's training and we aren't going out of our way to employ people with serious personality disorders as coppers, but who can say? An apology for breaking his door at least? You could argue he's being a bit of a dick, but that's because they've just booted his door in and marched into his home to momentarily look at his kitchen and then clear off.
>> No. 24068 Anonymous
14th April 2020
Tuesday 10:53 am
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The police believe they are in the right because he 'refused to open his door'. They will likely never learn from this even if something comes of it (which it won't) as they will chalk it up to some scallywag just trying to make their job hard.

Fucking burn the lot of them.
>> No. 24069 Anonymous
14th April 2020
Tuesday 11:42 am
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Am I autistic for not seeing a problem with this at all?

If a family is driving out to the middle of nowhere and not being within 100m of anyone else, is it an issue?
>> No. 24070 Anonymous
14th April 2020
Tuesday 11:45 am
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>>24069

It shouldn't be.
>> No. 24072 Anonymous
14th April 2020
Tuesday 11:53 am
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>>24069
I think it's more of an issue that if it's alright for one person to do that then lots of other people will think it's alright to do similar things.
>> No. 24073 Anonymous
14th April 2020
Tuesday 11:54 am
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>>24069
If you're walking cross country you're going to be climbing over stiles and opening gates, so while you might not be directly in contact there is some chance of contracting COVID yourself or infecting others. This is really the fault of the government's half-arsed advice though, because "social distancing" has become the go-to phrase for a lot of people, whereas what we're in now is a lockdown (terms and conditions apply), but many people still think if you're not having hugging contests with strangers you're fine. Really what we're trying to do is snuff out any chance of infection no matter how slight it might be. Plus these London types are all daft, who knows what they think a kissing gate is for?

When it comes to police forces posting emojis on social media though, I'd like to echo the rather extreme sentiments of >>24068
>> No. 24074 Anonymous
14th April 2020
Tuesday 12:16 pm
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>>24061
Gotta remember Adam and Joe's advice - act very posh and co-operative, the police's two favourite things. "Oh bloody gosh I'm so terribly sorry, please carry on chaps, I'll stay out of your way, yah."

Send the video to Netpol afterwards sure, but raising your voice at them isn't going to get you anywhere.
>> No. 24075 Anonymous
14th April 2020
Tuesday 12:26 pm
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>>24073

>If you're walking cross country you're going to be climbing over stiles and opening gates

This is really a infinitesimally small chance of causing spread compared to things you are required to do already for basic survival.
>> No. 24076 Anonymous
14th April 2020
Tuesday 12:31 pm
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>>24069

I don't see an issue either, until they go into shops to buy supplies in a new place, which most people would.
>> No. 24077 Anonymous
14th April 2020
Tuesday 12:39 pm
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I'm not saying they're dooming the entire population of Buxton or anything, but if you can completely nullify the risk of infection then I don't see a good reason not to. There is also the point >>24072 made; sure, one family isn't an issue, but when sixty-million other folk decide they want to do the Three Peaks Challenge then you've fucked it.
>> No. 24078 Anonymous
14th April 2020
Tuesday 12:52 pm
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>>24077

The problem is never the people on the mountain, the problem is where you get bottle necks of the people coming and going to the mountain.

Things like sevice stations or supermarkets. If a supermarket is supplying only people locally and those people aren't traveling you are fine if it becomes a hot bed for the disease because it is largely contained. If people are traveling around the country then sudenly you've got an uncontainable unpredictable spread. It could come from anywhere and go anywhere.
>> No. 24079 Anonymous
14th April 2020
Tuesday 12:55 pm
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>>24072

This.

There's plenty of stuff it's fine, in principle, to do by yourselves as a household unit. But the trouble is with everyone on lockdown wed all get the same idea, and the social distancing goes out the window once that happens. There's also the fact we don't want the pressure on emergency services of some dickhead potentially having an accident and needing an air ambulance up the side of Snowdonia or whatever.

In essence, the only reason it's okay for one family to do it is because all the other families who'd normally be doing it, aren't. But typically the British people aren't great at this kind of group logic, we all think of ourselves as the exception to the rule.

Anyway the woman at the checkouts in Morrisons told me I had to stay two meters from my girlfriend earlier today. "Government guidelines love" she said, I lost my rag and went "... You realise we fucked an hour ago, love?" and I feel a bit bad about it because the supermarket drones are really having a shit time of it right now I bet.
>> No. 24080 Anonymous
14th April 2020
Tuesday 1:18 pm
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I'm a fat fuck who has been struggling with weight for years.
All evidence seems to point to that aside from age, being a fat fuck massively increases your chances of hospitalisation. Before this all began, I was starting to make a little progress, but that's all gone now.

I'm fucking terrified, lads, as if I didn't hate myself to sleep most nights over my weight.

Some cunt in the supermarket last week coughed all over the checkout as he was packing his stuff up and my stuff was already being scanned - I can't tell whether the lethargy and slight shortness of breath over the last few days is me being paranoid or not.
>> No. 24081 Anonymous
14th April 2020
Tuesday 1:19 pm
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I've seen two "nurses left mean notes about leaving lockdown" stories now and I'm going to go on record on an anonymous imageboard as saying the are both bullshit.

>>24079
Okay, Opiklad, you can stop bragging now.
>> No. 24083 Anonymous
14th April 2020
Tuesday 6:27 pm
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I guess it's safe to assume you lads would call me a cunt for going swimming, then. Still, i bought a dry bag recently so i can walk the length of the beach while in the water. Maybe if i don't look like i'm enjoying myself people won't think to do it too.

>>24080
How much do you weigh out of interest? I'm technically obese approaching 16 stone, but i've found it's easy to lose weight if i have the right frame of mind. I've just gotta stop entertaining myself with food by finding something that captures my interest for a decent length of time.

If you'll excuse the autism; i've found weighing myself before and after using the toilet to be quite motivating. A decent shit weighs about a pound (14 to a stone), and if i'm over eating i could push out maybe 3 a day. After only a day or so of more conscious eating i'll have lost 'shit weight', which is further motivating to see on the scale in the morning. Then when my intestine is more or less empty and stomach will have shrunk a little, i'll beable to better identify when i'm satisfied instead of overeating. Less bloated, coupled with a new level of bodily comfort and i'm more interested in going out for a walk or whatever. My last poo was maybe 1/2 pound, but i've done probably 2 so far today.

And man, if you're anything like my family, don't bother caring about covering up shame with heavy clothes. It's a false economy; you'll be too hot and uncomfortable to go out, which leads to more weight being put on. You've just gotta bite the bullet and fuck it - people can see i'm fat whether i've a coat on or not, might aswell be comfortable in a tshirt while i'm doing something about it, you dig? Besides, i'm carrying 2 peoples worth of weight every day with each step, who the fuck are they to scoff the skinny pricks. Our thighs are machines.

Oh and man, don't forget to breath. My sister is embarrassed to even walk up hills because of the excersion. But the fact is she makes it worse than it has to be by trying to control her breathing. Just let that shit rip and fuel your muscles; by starving yourself of oxygen you're literally making it harder for yourself.
>> No. 24084 Anonymous
14th April 2020
Tuesday 6:31 pm
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>>24080

Fighting off an infection is like running a marathon, doubly so when your breathing is impaired by it, so it's not so much the weight that is a danger as the lack of fitness. I was a fat fuck for a long time too, and when I got a very bad infection and was hospitalised due to it, the doctors were very concerned about me and whether I would even make it. They asked me a few questions about physical fitness and once they heard that I had a very active lifestyle, a physical job and about 500 miles of cycling a week, they relaxed a lot. In fighting off the infection I still lost about three stone in a month, thats just how hard your body has to work.
>> No. 24085 Anonymous
14th April 2020
Tuesday 6:51 pm
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>>24083
110kg (17st) at 172cm (5'7), so a BMI of 38.

I was the same weight before 2013, I got down to 75 from 2013->2016, and slowly put weight on for a good while, getting up to 95 or so at the beginning of 2019, until piling it all on between March and July of last year, and I've hovered back at 110 ever since. I got up to 117 in December and lost those 7kg between Jan and Feb, but since then it's plateaued.

I wouldn't say I'm fit, but I usually walked >10,000 steps a day and played squash whenever I could.

It's not that I don't know how to lose weight, I've just not been in a good place, mentally, since 6.41am on the 14th of September, 2016. Since I'm not literally about to top myself, there's not really a lot of support out there so bevvies and scran are my therapy. It's not good, and sometimes I'll get back into it for a month or so, but I always slip, and I always hate myself a little more for it.

>>24084
I need to lose 3ish stones to get under the obese mark. I suppose it's the bevvies more than anything, I just need to stop drinking. I don't drink huge amounts, but when I do it's cider and those empty calories add up.
>> No. 24086 Anonymous
14th April 2020
Tuesday 6:51 pm
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>>24085
I should add I try and do 5,000+ steps on my Daily Government Walks™.
>> No. 24087 Anonymous
14th April 2020
Tuesday 11:51 pm
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I think Donald Trump might be the Antichrist.
>> No. 24088 Anonymous
14th April 2020
Tuesday 11:58 pm
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>Dealer caught with £57,000 of cocaine in car told police he was 'key worker'
>Officers stopped Evans' Ford Focus and asked him what he was doing. He claimed to be "key worker" returning home after a night shift.
>But intelligence reports led police to doubt the 26-year-old's story and a subsequent search of the car found a large stash of cocaine wrapped in brown tape.
>Police said the possession of drugs with intent to supply "does not qualify as essential work" and have called the seizure and conviction an "excellent result" for the communities of the Swansea Valley where the defendant lives.

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/benjamin-evans-pontardawe-court-drugs-18070354

They really do seem to be nabbing a fair amount of dealers from all this.
>> No. 24089 Anonymous
15th April 2020
Wednesday 12:01 am
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57-key worker tbf.
>> No. 24090 Anonymous
15th April 2020
Wednesday 12:19 am
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>>24088
We're all panic buying is why.
>> No. 24091 Anonymous
15th April 2020
Wednesday 1:32 am
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>> No. 24092 Anonymous
15th April 2020
Wednesday 1:36 am
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>>24035
I should've looked for the deatails instead of guessing:

The proposed standards are public:
https://www.apple.com/covid19/contacttracing
>> No. 24093 Anonymous
15th April 2020
Wednesday 2:07 am
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>>24091
Right. That's it. We're all dead.
>> No. 24094 Anonymous
15th April 2020
Wednesday 6:14 am
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>>24091
The Chinese tried to unsuccessfully reinfect some monkeys.

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.13.990226v1.full.pdf

Obiously take everything with a massive jar of salt.
>> No. 24095 Anonymous
15th April 2020
Wednesday 8:27 am
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I don't think I heard a single person complain about the lack of the word Easter on chocolate eggs this year. Perhaps coronavirus has made people realised not to get worked up about inconsequential bollocks.
>> No. 24096 Anonymous
15th April 2020
Wednesday 8:48 am
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>>24095
Not a chance. Those people just had something else to complain about this year. Normal service will resume next year.
>> No. 24097 Anonymous
15th April 2020
Wednesday 9:38 am
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>>24091
Yes I believe the medical credentials of this 'j' with a strange mask as his avatar, with no citation given.
>> No. 24098 Anonymous
15th April 2020
Wednesday 10:12 am
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>>24097
The only media organisations I can see from this country reporting on it are The Mail and Daily Express. Make of that what you will.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8208019/S-Korea-reports-recovered-coronavirus-patients-testing-positive-again.html

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-8215339/Growing-fear-catch-Covid-19-once.html

There is an article in Metro covering Dr Fauci's scepticism of 'reactivation' as well:

https://metro.co.uk/2020/04/10/top-coronavirus-expert-skeptical-claims-people-reinfected-12536333/
>> No. 24099 Anonymous
15th April 2020
Wednesday 10:24 am
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This is what happens now we have too much time on our hands.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ct0iCw2l0Gc
>> No. 24101 Anonymous
15th April 2020
Wednesday 10:58 am
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Call it a mid-week hump but I'm bored of all this now. If you're not feeling up-to it then by all means continue but working from home has lost all novelty now and I'd rather be in the office even with the risk.

Plus, I really fancy sitting in a pub and discussing science fiction over a few pints.

>>24067
The problem with these videos is that you only get half the story. From what I can gather they'd had reports from neighbours about something serious enough to kick his door in.

It reminds me of that spate we had a few years back of people recording 'experiences' on public transport that start in the middle of someone born in the 1970s completely losing their rag at someone. I don't implicitly trust people who record things on their phone is what I'm saying.
>> No. 24102 Anonymous
15th April 2020
Wednesday 12:17 pm
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When you cough.

(A good day to you Sir!)
>> No. 24103 Anonymous
15th April 2020
Wednesday 1:45 pm
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>>24101
>From what I can gather they'd had reports from neighbours about something serious enough to kick his door in.

Ah. The old bootlicker's tautology.
>> No. 24104 Anonymous
15th April 2020
Wednesday 1:48 pm
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>>24099
Christ. I thought this would be an amusing video but when he starts explaining the obvious mistake Patel made and the purpose of the comma' with the aid of a fucking whiteboard I had to switch it off.
>> No. 24105 Anonymous
15th April 2020
Wednesday 2:09 pm
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>>24103

Indeed it is the old vapid lack of justification. "Someone matching your description" or "being suspicious", or "you were being aggressive (after we started getting invasive well beyond our legal right)" Bollocks.

I heard them all when I was a teenager and for whatever reason they decided I was worthy of stopping on the street every other week. Never found a thing but that didn't stop them. Easy to see why entire communities start hating them.
>> No. 24106 Anonymous
15th April 2020
Wednesday 2:21 pm
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Are Cornish people mentalists?
>> No. 24107 Anonymous
15th April 2020
Wednesday 2:24 pm
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>>24098
Well thanks for providing sources. I don't read and refuse to click on links from those shitrags.
>> No. 24108 Anonymous
15th April 2020
Wednesday 3:12 pm
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>>24103
>reports from neighbours about something serious enough to kick his door in
>bootlicker

Mirth. I'm sure in your eyes anybody not in uniform is blameless and the police are just another system devised by The Man to keep the drudgers in line, ACABlad.

There are plenty of real issues in the police force both domestically and abroad and you choose to call somebody out for stating (quite rightly) that they're doing their job. Bit daft to say the least.
>> No. 24109 Anonymous
15th April 2020
Wednesday 3:13 pm
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So despite what the official CV death toll is, the death toll in general is significantly higher than it would be for this week in any of the past five years. 35-70% higher in the country in general, 2.5x as much higher in London.
>> No. 24110 Anonymous
15th April 2020
Wednesday 3:16 pm
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>>24108
Wow that's a hell of a lot of bullshit you've imagined.
>> No. 24111 Anonymous
15th April 2020
Wednesday 3:53 pm
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People are trying to make launching Chinese lanterns in support of the NHS a thing. Don't they realise we've already suffered enough at the hands of the Chinks?

https://twitter.com/NightSkyLantern/status/1248263371465666561
>> No. 24112 Anonymous
15th April 2020
Wednesday 4:15 pm
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>>24109

The lockdown is doing more harm than good. Simple as that.

Coronavirus is a serious issue, but we've reacted to it in a way appropriate for something several orders of magnitude more serious.

People are stuck at home, depressed, unable to get good quality food, stressed and afraid. A lot of vulnerable people who were just clinging on before will have been pushed over, and people aren't seeking medical attention in the normal way. We've disrupted the normal order of life too much.

These are all just my baseless suspicions of course.
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15th April 2020
Wednesday 4:59 pm
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>>24112

The rise in deaths is in the same demographics as the virus primarily affects. These aren't young people dying of stress because they can't get their favourite ice-creams, they're corona virus deaths being under-reported.
>> No. 24115 Anonymous
15th April 2020
Wednesday 5:01 pm
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>>24112

I don't think you have processed reading what you are responding to properly
>> No. 24116 Anonymous
15th April 2020
Wednesday 5:16 pm
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>>24111

https://www.countrysideonline.co.uk/care-for-the-countryside/sky-lanterns/


I think an entire zoo burned down in the Netherlands last year due to a stray sky lantern, or something.


Oh, here it is:

https://www.itv.com/news/2020-01-01/scores-of-animals-killed-in-fire-at-german-zoo/

>A fire at a zoo in western Germany in the first minutes of 2020 has killed more than 30 animals, including apes, monkeys, bats and birds, authorities have said.

>Police said the fire may have been caused by sky lanterns launched to celebrate the new year.

>Several witnesses reported that they had seen the cylindrical paper lanterns with little fires inside flying in the night sky shortly after midnight near Krefeld Zoo, said Gerd Hoppmann, the city’s head of criminal police.

>“People reported seeing those sky lanterns flying at low altitude near the zoo and then it started burning,” Mr Hoppmann said.
>> No. 24117 Anonymous
15th April 2020
Wednesday 5:23 pm
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>>24116
>the city’s head of criminal police
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15th April 2020
Wednesday 5:47 pm
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QUICK FONDLE UNDER HER DRESS? YOU'LL END UP IN THE NATIONAL PRESS!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8221659/Couple-defy-quarantine-lockdown-loving-near-childrens-play-park.html
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15th April 2020
Wednesday 5:49 pm
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>>24111
At least they're getting people out the house. By setting them on fire.
>> No. 24120 Anonymous
15th April 2020
Wednesday 6:24 pm
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>>24108

You can clearly see they're doing a fucking terrible job, even if they're just following orders.

You've got a bit of shoe polish on your tongue, pal.
>> No. 24121 Anonymous
15th April 2020
Wednesday 6:30 pm
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>>24120
This is the point. It's not that "ACAB" or that kicking anyone's door in is always wrong in all circumstances or whatever strawman the other chap was building. It's that this is very VERY clearly not one of those times.
>> No. 24122 Anonymous
15th April 2020
Wednesday 6:32 pm
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Pretty fucking sick of this honestly lads. How long before people decide they've had enough and it's worth letting Ethel and Mildred cash their cheque a bit early?
>> No. 24123 Anonymous
15th April 2020
Wednesday 7:06 pm
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>>24107
It's old news honestly, we've known for over a month that people who get it can get it again, it's why the herd immunity thing was seen as utter bollocks from the start.

>>24116
I don't understand why all of a sudden people are panicking at these lanterns, as far as I'm aware the only issue with these are the cheap/unbranded ones or the regulations they were made to, as this has come up in the papers before when people started using them for new years celebrations on beaches and the like. The ones that are made right not only are biodegradable but also won't go up in flames and self-extinguish pretty easily, or was this all ignored and the markets been flooded with cheap tat again?
>> No. 24124 Anonymous
15th April 2020
Wednesday 7:44 pm
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>>24123

>when people started using them for new years celebrations on beaches and the like

A seafront with outgoing winds is arguably an almost entirely safe environment to release these sky lanterns. But in built-up areas in the middle of a town or city, they're really just floating lighter cubes.

It's just as well if they ban them. Most people I've seen using them were early 30s hipster parents reminiscing about their eco-unfriendly backpacking tour through Southeast Asia.
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15th April 2020
Wednesday 7:53 pm
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>>24123

>I don't understand why all of a sudden people are panicking at these lanterns

The world is getting hotter and drier, to the point that even Britain is at risk of major wildfires during summer. There's no way to safely lob naked flames into a tinderbox.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_United_Kingdom_wildfires
>> No. 24126 Anonymous
15th April 2020
Wednesday 7:55 pm
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>>24123
>I don't understand why all of a sudden people are panicking at these lanterns, as far as I'm aware the only issue with these are the cheap/unbranded ones or the regulations they were made to

There's no such thing as a completely safe lantern. Some are worse than other but even the best made ones are a fire risk.
They're not much of a worry around bonfire night or new year, but after a bit of warm weather any lantern is capable of starting a fire.
>> No. 24127 Anonymous
15th April 2020
Wednesday 7:59 pm
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>>24125
>2018 UK Wildfires
>2018

That was two years ago. There have been two summers since then. That means the planet is getting colder over time not hotter.
>> No. 24128 Anonymous
15th April 2020
Wednesday 9:24 pm
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So what exactly are the French up to.
>> No. 24129 Anonymous
15th April 2020
Wednesday 11:29 pm
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>>24123
>we've known for over a month that people who get it can get it again
Have we?
>> No. 24130 Anonymous
15th April 2020
Wednesday 11:43 pm
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>>24128

Looks like 5000 of them are sneaking down the channel tunnel like my mental granddad always said they would. ITZ!
>> No. 24131 Anonymous
16th April 2020
Thursday 12:20 am
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Nukes dropped on China this year.

Screencap this.
>> No. 24132 Anonymous
16th April 2020
Thursday 2:03 am
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>>24129

The first case reports of re-infected patients were published in China on the 20th of February, shortly followed by a case report from Japan on the 27th. We're still not absolutely certain that they represent true re-infections rather than testing errors, but it's highly probable that some proportion of patients do not develop a lasting immunity.
>> No. 24133 Anonymous
16th April 2020
Thursday 2:05 am
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>>24118

So The Mail had 10 pictures of this couple in their article, but it's the same fucking photograph either duplicated or with different magnification.

Tossers. I was scrolling through them hoping there would be a bit of anal at least.
>> No. 24134 Anonymous
16th April 2020
Thursday 7:16 am
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>>24132

What if the virus has simply mutated, similar to the way that flu viruses do all the time?
>> No. 24135 Anonymous
16th April 2020
Thursday 11:07 am
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>>24131
A screencap is useless when there's no internet... or electricity.
>> No. 24136 Anonymous
16th April 2020
Thursday 12:18 pm
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>>24134

Coronaviruses typically mutate much more slowly than influenza viruses, so we wouldn't expect to see that level of mutation so quickly. If by some unlikely quirk SARS-CoV-2 does mutate that quickly, then we probably won't be able to develop an effective vaccine, in which case we would be seriously fucked.
>> No. 24137 Anonymous
16th April 2020
Thursday 1:02 pm
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>>24136

A lot about the virus is still unknown at this point, and even if just a few people become reinfected, then that may point towards a low mutation rate, but a mutation rate nonetheless.

Could well be that we're in for a new round of Covid every year from now on.
>> No. 24138 Anonymous
16th April 2020
Thursday 1:15 pm
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>>24137
There has been research done about the mutation rate, and it's as >>24136 said, https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.09.034942v1. It's mutating slower than SARS-1 and that's slower than flu.

If we can get a decent vaccine going, it should be fairly effective.
>> No. 24139 Anonymous
16th April 2020
Thursday 1:51 pm
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Daily reminder that we are being protected by people too thick to observe the social distancing guidelines they claim to be enforcing.

https://twitter.com/simonchilds13/status/1250718305889013760
>> No. 24140 Anonymous
16th April 2020
Thursday 3:46 pm
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>>24139

TSG innit. They're the heavy mob.
>> No. 24141 Anonymous
16th April 2020
Thursday 3:52 pm
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>>24139
Finsbury Park, easy.
>> No. 24142 Anonymous
16th April 2020
Thursday 4:24 pm
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>> No. 24143 Anonymous
16th April 2020
Thursday 4:39 pm
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>>24142

Is this like in Mad Max Road Warrior and they're waiting for him to release the hot water over them?
>> No. 24144 Anonymous
16th April 2020
Thursday 4:52 pm
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It has been well publicised that Covid-19 discriminates by age and by underlying health conditions. But it has become increasingly apparent that it also discriminates by sex, with the latest UK data from the Office for National Statistics revealing that men are almost twice as likely to die from the disease.

The trend was first seen in China, where one analysis found a fatality rate of 2.8% in men compared with 1.7% in women. Since then, the pattern has been mirrored in France, Germany, Iran, Italy, South Korea, and now in the UK.

In Italy, men have accounted for 71% of deaths. In Spain, data released on Thursday suggests twice as many men as women have died and in the UK, of the 4,122 deaths registered, 2,523 were men and 1,599 women.


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/26/men-are-much-more-likely-to-die-from-coronavirus-but-why

There is going to be so much fanny left over for us survivors.
>> No. 24145 Anonymous
16th April 2020
Thursday 4:56 pm
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>>24144

Elderly fanny.
>> No. 24146 Anonymous
16th April 2020
Thursday 5:10 pm
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>>24145
Perfect time to become a gigolo.
>> No. 24147 Anonymous
16th April 2020
Thursday 5:30 pm
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>>24142
"Welcome to City 17, you have chosen, or been chosen, to relocate to one of our finest remaining urban centres..."
>> No. 24148 Anonymous
16th April 2020
Thursday 6:30 pm
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Don't forget to clap tonight or your social credit score will go down.
>> No. 24149 Anonymous
16th April 2020
Thursday 6:53 pm
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>>24148
I didn't realise it was Thursday until this post.
>> No. 24150 Anonymous
16th April 2020
Thursday 7:24 pm
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>>24148
Don't forget to have a whinge about it online every week.

>>24149
Same.
>> No. 24151 Anonymous
16th April 2020
Thursday 8:15 pm
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Very lacklustre clapping this week. If it continues I'll have to start naming and shaming people.
>> No. 24152 Anonymous
16th April 2020
Thursday 8:26 pm
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>>24151
I've just heard someone clapping on my shared doorstep. The activity probably relieves the yearning for community that people are understandably missing at the moment. Needless to say, i'm now afraid to leave my house for the embarrassment.
>> No. 24153 Anonymous
16th April 2020
Thursday 9:01 pm
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>>24152
Someone here was going mental on a dustbin lid. Maybe I'll start using this as a theraputic moment each week.
>> No. 24154 Anonymous
16th April 2020
Thursday 9:08 pm
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>>24142

The Apprentice: Post Apocalypse Edition
>> No. 24155 Anonymous
16th April 2020
Thursday 10:56 pm
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Over 10,000 global deaths today. It's still speeding up.
>> No. 24156 Anonymous
16th April 2020
Thursday 11:04 pm
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Can I have my house back please OP?
>> No. 24157 Anonymous
16th April 2020
Thursday 11:28 pm
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>> No. 24158 Anonymous
17th April 2020
Friday 12:06 am
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>>24157

Ben Fogle can fuck right off. Cunt.
>> No. 24159 Anonymous
17th April 2020
Friday 12:37 am
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Feh5TUENx4I

Did you lot see the Clap video the other day?
>> No. 24160 Anonymous
17th April 2020
Friday 1:03 am
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>>24159

As that started I assumed it was going to be another conspiracy nut, right wing sneering rant and I was plesantly surprised. Whilst I don't agree entirely with the conclusions of that analysis and logic but I have to say I agreed with it more than I do with most. It felt like it was promoting critical thiking more than anything.
>> No. 24161 Anonymous
17th April 2020
Friday 2:17 am
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>>24159
>usually run by hipster millennials with degrees in social media studies or whatever

God damn I love watching grade A mentalists when I'm high.
>> No. 24162 Anonymous
17th April 2020
Friday 2:34 am
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>>24157

That's it, this has got to end right now, fuck me.
>> No. 24163 Anonymous
17th April 2020
Friday 3:26 am
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>>24162

It's going to go on for at least a year, by which time I expect to be spending at least four hours a day clapping on my doorstep.
>> No. 24164 Anonymous
17th April 2020
Friday 3:52 am
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What an image; Orwellian definitely.
>> No. 24165 Anonymous
17th April 2020
Friday 5:47 am
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>>24161

He isn't wrong. Who did you think PR companies were run by?
>> No. 24166 Anonymous
17th April 2020
Friday 9:52 am
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>>24165

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVmmYMwFj1I
>> No. 24167 Anonymous
17th April 2020
Friday 9:59 am
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Why do these sorts of reactionary videos always take the onus off the individual to not be a MSM-gobbling daftie?

Big Media literally shoveling ANTI-WHITE propaganda down your throats, boys. Remember, don't forget to like and subscribe!
>> No. 24168 Anonymous
17th April 2020
Friday 12:27 pm
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>>24166

So hipster millennials with degrees in media studies.
>> No. 24169 Anonymous
17th April 2020
Friday 12:41 pm
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>>24159
Wow, i should take a media studies course.
>> No. 24170 Anonymous
17th April 2020
Friday 1:20 pm
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>>24159
It's like a parochial re-imagining of Manufacturing Consent.
>> No. 24171 Anonymous
17th April 2020
Friday 3:13 pm
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>>24167

Same reason their opposite counterparts in the snowflake SJW camp get arsey when anybody tries to talk about concrete material conditions, instead of more anstract concepts of race/gender/sexuality privilege.

It brings with it the uncomfortable implication that they might be more complicit than they'd like to admit in the whole situation.
>> No. 24172 Anonymous
17th April 2020
Friday 3:19 pm
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Why the FUCK is everyone having a fucking Zoom quiz every hour of every day?

Have we all got Stockholm syndrome for exponential curves now?
>> No. 24173 Anonymous
17th April 2020
Friday 3:19 pm
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>>24172
Data source: Pulled the numbers out of my arse but that's what it feels like
>> No. 24174 Anonymous
17th April 2020
Friday 4:19 pm
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SPIN, SPIN FOR THE NHS.

https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1250986608842674177
>> No. 24175 Anonymous
17th April 2020
Friday 6:15 pm
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>>24174
Fantastic.
>> No. 24176 Anonymous
17th April 2020
Friday 7:18 pm
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>>24175
Will Conor be counted amongst the daily COVID victims?
>> No. 24177 Anonymous
17th April 2020
Friday 9:42 pm
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>>24174
I bet the captain (pilot?) got a bollocking for that.
>> No. 24178 Anonymous
17th April 2020
Friday 10:25 pm
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>>24174
Silly bastard, doesn't he know that only child sacrifices can appease the great big PPE monster in the sky to grace the NHS with more PPE.
>> No. 24179 Anonymous
17th April 2020
Friday 11:15 pm
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It's amazing how fast this seems to have begun to feel normal.
>> No. 24180 Anonymous
17th April 2020
Friday 11:38 pm
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-8229311/UN-report-warns-THREE-MILLION-people-die-coronavirus-Africa.html


>Africa could see anywhere between 300,000 and 3.3 million deaths due to coronavirus, according to the UN Economic Commission for Africa (UNECA).

>It warned that if the continent does not implement measures to prevent the spread of the virus then total infections could spiral out of control and reach 1.2 billion.

>But if intense social distancing measures are implemented, the number of total infections could drop to 122 million by the end of the pandemic.


How do you say ITZ in African?
>> No. 24181 Anonymous
18th April 2020
Saturday 3:44 am
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>>24180

I was waiting to see how long it would be before someone thought about the global poor.

We've all been too busy enjoying our little social distancing circlejerk to realise it's going to kill untold millions in Africa; but then again, petty little things like drought and famine already do that all the time and nobody seems bothered.

Long as Ethel gets a ventilator, that's what matters.
>> No. 24182 Anonymous
18th April 2020
Saturday 8:03 am
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So, China-originated virus will wipe out a load of the locals in China's new resource continent? That'll require flying in even more Chinese workers, to keep the spice flowing, yeah?
So long, Africa, hello southern province.

Conspiracies are fun.
>> No. 24183 Anonymous
18th April 2020
Saturday 8:24 am
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>>24181
Speak for yourself. I've been updated by a South African friend, that place at least sounds on the brink of rioting.
>> No. 24184 Anonymous
18th April 2020
Saturday 8:55 am
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>>24183
How's that different from usual?
>> No. 24185 Anonymous
18th April 2020
Saturday 9:28 am
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>>24184
It's brinkierer.
>> No. 24186 Anonymous
18th April 2020
Saturday 10:53 am
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The police helicopter is out again. This is taking the piss now.
>> No. 24187 Anonymous
18th April 2020
Saturday 10:55 am
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>>24186
Why? Are your sewers blocked up with newspaper?
>> No. 24188 Anonymous
18th April 2020
Saturday 1:15 pm
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Was in Farmfoods earlier and witnessed a man barge another out of the way, I think because he was too close to him. All kicking off.
>> No. 24189 Anonymous
18th April 2020
Saturday 1:39 pm
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>Wales is more vulnerable to coronavirus than other parts of the UK, according to new research.

>Work by the Bevan Foundation has found that Wales's demographics leave people here potentially more exposed to the dangers of the deadly disease. As the virus affects older people more severely, and those with underlying health conditions, Wales in particularly exposed.
>> No. 24190 Anonymous
18th April 2020
Saturday 1:50 pm
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>>24188
Surely that's just a normal day in Farmfoods.
>> No. 24191 Anonymous
18th April 2020
Saturday 2:47 pm
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The Mail are still scrutinising the purchases of people at The Range.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8232453/Britons-flock-shops-non-essential-shopping.html
>> No. 24192 Anonymous
18th April 2020
Saturday 2:54 pm
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https://twitter.com/StevieeeWx/status/1251434819659206662
>> No. 24193 Anonymous
18th April 2020
Saturday 3:17 pm
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>>24191
But the camera operator is doing a vital job, right?
>> No. 24194 Anonymous
18th April 2020
Saturday 3:49 pm
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Journalists are classed as key workers I believe.
>> No. 24195 Anonymous
18th April 2020
Saturday 4:32 pm
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>Journalists
>key workers

That is still a matter of degree. Is your work for a bigoted, hate-spewing, facts-bending, lowest-common-denominator rag really essential?

Also, buying stuff in a shop, even if it's non-essential, keeps people working in that shop employed in times like these. And if those shops don't get to earn money, even from frivolous purchases that could have waited a few weeks, then by the time the pandemic subsides, we'll all be healthy again but jobless.
>> No. 24196 Anonymous
18th April 2020
Saturday 4:52 pm
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>>24195

I think there's really very little you couldn't call an essential purchase when people are stuck inside all day.

All the scrutiny is coming from people with no lives who have run out of netflix to watch, but can't think of anything better to do. The people out buying things that are "non-essential" are just keeping themselves busy at a time when we're literally not allowed to socialise.

I can't imagine what kind of petty vindictive cunt you have to be to want everyone else to be as bored as you when we're literally all stuck inside. I can't begrudge anyone hobby supplies, or things to get a bit of DIY done.
>> No. 24197 Anonymous
18th April 2020
Saturday 5:36 pm
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>I can't begrudge anyone hobby supplies, or things to get a bit of DIY done.

I could actually really do with going to the range to pick up some more compost and stuff for growing vegetables, and some metal brackets so I can build a chin-up bar outside would be great.
But on the other hand I don't want to be seen dead queuing with the mouth-breathing mongs who are buying fucking tiki lamps
>> No. 24198 Anonymous
18th April 2020
Saturday 5:48 pm
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In all honesty I much prefer shopping like this. I'm quite happy to queue outside Morrisons for 10 minutes if it means when I get inside it's quiet, there's barely any other people inside and everyone is far more considerate to one another.
>> No. 24199 Anonymous
18th April 2020
Saturday 7:08 pm
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>>24198

My local supermarket round the corner here has a policy now that you HAVE to get a shopping trolley when you enter their shop, to ensure that you will keep your distance to other shoppers. I think it's honestly a bit much when you really just want to pop in to buy a tube of toothpaste, like I did the other night.

I tried to reason with the shop security person who was standing guard at the entrance that surely a single fucking tube of toothpaste wouldn't necessitate a whole trolley, but he just said, no trolley, no shopping, and that if I kept arguing with him, he had authority to ban me from the shop altogether.

I was going to tell him that a shopping trolley's handles that five different people touch every hour will probably be counterproductive to the whole measure, but then I saw that they had one of their employees wipe down every single returned trolley with sanitiser. Which, in turn, is kind of a waste of sanitiser at the moment, but at that point I just gave up and decided to do my shopping elsewhere from now on.
>> No. 24200 Anonymous
18th April 2020
Saturday 7:20 pm
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>>24199
A shopping trip to pick up a solitary item doesn't sound like an essential journey. I'll dob you in to the rozzers.
>> No. 24201 Anonymous
18th April 2020
Saturday 7:35 pm
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>>24200

I was really all out of toothpaste, and had nothing else to shop for really. Do you now have to get a bag of bread as an alibi just so that it'll count as an essential trip?

You can't really say that oral hygiene is any less important during this pandemic.
>> No. 24202 Anonymous
18th April 2020
Saturday 7:49 pm
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>>24201
Depends on whether the rozzers believe it's a reasonable excuse. Apparently driving to the countryside for a walk is alright now.

https://www.college.police.uk/What-we-do/COVID-19/Documents/What-constitutes-a-reasonable-excuse.pdf
>> No. 24203 Anonymous
18th April 2020
Saturday 8:08 pm
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18th April 2020
Saturday 8:17 pm
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>>24202

Toothpaste is still an essential item. It may not be food, depending on how you lean, but I think if you pop round the corner to the supermarket that's 100 metres away, simply because you forgot your toothpaste the last time you went out, then a copper would have to be a real cunt to write you up because of it.
>> No. 24205 Anonymous
18th April 2020
Saturday 8:55 pm
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We bought £16 million worth of tests that don't work.
>> No. 24206 Anonymous
18th April 2020
Saturday 10:12 pm
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>>24205

£16 million isn't much in health economics really. Captain Tom has walked round his garden to raise money for the NHS - I reckon if you told him 20% of his walks were to fund left wing ineffcency he'd be an Apache pilot by next week flying and screaming 'come at me communist fuckers'.
>> No. 24207 Anonymous
18th April 2020
Saturday 10:13 pm
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>>24205
Tricky one that. If we'd passed on it and it turned out they worked, we'd be yelling at our civil servants for vacillating and letting France or whoever steal the opportunity. £16M isn't much of an expense with regard to the pandemic costs so I can see why they took the risk.

Let's see if we can offload them to an even more gullible country.
>> No. 24208 Anonymous
18th April 2020
Saturday 10:30 pm
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>>24207

Why didn't they take the "risk" of buying ventilators along with the EU the three times it was on the table then? You can't excuse them on a "damned if they do, damned if they don't" basis given that they've now done both.
>> No. 24209 Anonymous
19th April 2020
Sunday 3:59 am
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>>24199

This is the madness of it all that's getting to me. I appreciate the shop people are just doing their job, and I appreciate the people in charge of them are just trying not to get on the bad side of the corona PR storm.

But when you have to have conversations like this with the poor bastard who has to stand at the entrance it drives you to despair.

"You two together?"

"Yeah."

"Oh... Erm. Do you live together?"

"Yeah, we're a couple, yeah."

"Well it's erm. Only one person from the same household."

"What? Why?"

"It's just... It's only one person."

"But we live together."

"Yeah but it's only one person allowed so."

"So why did you let those two in?" (the elderly couple in front of us)

"He said his wife's disabled."

"... So why didn't his wife stay at home?"

"... It's only one person, sorry."

There's a severe lack of common sense going on about all this. Social distancing is one thing but about 50% of the so called containment measures we're putting up with at the minute are just daft.
>> No. 24210 Anonymous
19th April 2020
Sunday 10:38 am
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Now the BBC are agreeing that the CV deaths in care homes have been severely under-reported by official figures. By twenty to one.
>> No. 24211 Anonymous
19th April 2020
Sunday 11:12 am
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Can't think of anywhere I'd least rather die. Care homes are less medically staffed than most prisons and for all the round-the-clock care, its employees are even more poorly paid.

Feels like stating the obvious here but it's a fuckery of immense proportions and I hope it encourages serious reform once this whole thing blows over.
>> No. 24212 Anonymous
19th April 2020
Sunday 11:12 am
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>>24209
Is that really what it's about? I was at a mini Tesco yesterday and the lad at the door angrily ordered me to pick up a basket. I didn't argue the toss, I needed one anyway.

How the fuck is hauling a basket around going to help prevent infection?
>> No. 24213 Anonymous
19th April 2020
Sunday 12:00 pm
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Here's the Sunday Times article without a paywall.
>> No. 24214 Anonymous
19th April 2020
Sunday 1:38 pm
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>>24212

> I was at a mini Tesco yesterday and the lad at the door angrily ordered me to pick up a basket.


My local Asda here has stopped giving out baskets at the moment, because oddly enough, they told me that those basket handles only help spread the virus. Whereas the Sainsbury's down the road just has them like they normally would.

We really would have needed clear and uniform standards of procedure for supermarkets to go along with the lockdown regulations. A few easy to remember rules that would have applied to every single supermarket in the country. Because everybody's just doing their own thing now and you see contradictory measures implemented from one shop to the next, and that's when people start to think you're really just taking the piss.

I was at a service station last night and they had a sign at the entrance that only six customers were allowed inside the shop area at any given time. And I think it also said something that that was on orders of the council's elf and safety department or something. But they might have just put that on the sign to give it a touch of authority, because I don't think I have seen any signs like that at other service stations here locally.
>> No. 24215 Anonymous
19th April 2020
Sunday 1:46 pm
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>>24214
When I went to Farmfoods all of the staff had visors on. I haven't seen anywhere else doing this.
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19th April 2020
Sunday 2:00 pm
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>>24215
Some of the staff at my local Waitrose wear them too. You don't really know if it came from corporate or if someone at the store has contacts.
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19th April 2020
Sunday 2:08 pm
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>>24213
The Mail readers are turning on Johnson over this.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8233835/Boris-Johnson-missed-five-Cobra-meetings-coronavirus.html
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19th April 2020
Sunday 2:23 pm
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>>24215

That's pushing it a bit.

There are hospitals that really need equipment and gear like that at the moment, to be able to treat and look after actual coronavirus patients, so you're really making it difficult for them to source things like visors that way.

If face masks become mandatory, I will start wearing my 3M half-face respirator. It looks a bit over the top, but that's exactly the kind of subtle social commentary that I'd be in the mood to convey at the moment.
>> No. 24220 Anonymous
19th April 2020
Sunday 2:47 pm
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>>24219
I've was wearing this one as anything less just vents hot air to steam up my glasses.
>> No. 24221 Anonymous
19th April 2020
Sunday 2:49 pm
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>>24218

Looks as though they're rallying around the man to me. Anyone who disagrees is obviously a "snarling leftie".
>> No. 24222 Anonymous
19th April 2020
Sunday 4:07 pm
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Why does the dog have a human arm?

https://twitter.com/10DowningStreet/status/1251244694014767105
>> No. 24223 Anonymous
19th April 2020
Sunday 4:22 pm
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>> No. 24224 Anonymous
19th April 2020
Sunday 5:23 pm
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>>24222

Is it just lezzers who need to stay home, or everybody?
>> No. 24225 Anonymous
19th April 2020
Sunday 6:37 pm
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>>24224
They look like twin sisters to me m9.
>> No. 24226 Anonymous
19th April 2020
Sunday 7:10 pm
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>>24225
Lots of lezzers date lasses that look very similar to them. They're vain cunts.
>> No. 24227 Anonymous
19th April 2020
Sunday 7:10 pm
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>>24225

Same thing if you watch the wrong right porn.
>> No. 24228 Anonymous
19th April 2020
Sunday 7:56 pm
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>>24227

I wonder what the ramifications are right now for the porn industry. If you strictly follow social distancing rules, you're pretty much restricted to filming a guy having a wank while a lass talks dirty to him from two metres away.
>> No. 24229 Anonymous
19th April 2020
Sunday 8:05 pm
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From what I can tell porn these days is just a load of women trapped under furniture whilst someone fucks them from behind, so that should be fine.
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19th April 2020
Sunday 8:07 pm
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>>24228

It's odd that you'd go there instead of just filming a woman masturbating.

Anyway, the porn industry is full of married couples, I bet we'll see a lot of them shagging, maybe filmed with a telephoto lens from the garden. Maybe voyeur lockdown porn will become the new 'sexy stepmom' in terms of popularity.
>> No. 24231 Anonymous
19th April 2020
Sunday 8:11 pm
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>>24230 There's also all the (mostly German) wipe-clean stuff where I imagine a bit of IPA mixed in to the catheter lube will make it all sufficiently hygienic.
>> No. 24232 Anonymous
19th April 2020
Sunday 8:57 pm
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Have we had an implausible number of bright sunny cloudless days since lockdown? (east anglia)
My pond's getting low, which is odd for April.
Bring back the pollution and chemtrails, for the good of my amphibians.
>> No. 24233 Anonymous
19th April 2020
Sunday 10:01 pm
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>>24232

Yeah, remember that other thread years ago with Greta Thunberg at the top?
https://www.express.co.uk/news/weather/1243531/bbc-weather-forecast-heatwave-temperatures-europe-storm-dennis-february-2020-latest-update
>> No. 24234 Anonymous
19th April 2020
Sunday 10:16 pm
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>>24205

I was sceptical about these from the off. I remember posting about test capacity and how we currently have pretty simple test kits for things like rotavirus/adenovirus at work, but a "simple as a pregnancy test" home kit sounded like a stretch.

I can't believe they just bought them without any proof like a dodgy eBay listing. Then again I suppose £16 million is still fuck all considering the size of the cheques Are Rishi has been writing lately.
>> No. 24235 Anonymous
19th April 2020
Sunday 10:35 pm
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>>24233

If you travelled back in time about twelve months and told the average person that at present in 2020, there are no flights going anywhere, the entire global tourism industry is shut down, and you're essentially forbidden from travelling anywhere that you don't absolutely have to, that person would have said, "How did Fridays for Future manage that?".

I guess what I am saying is, times are so fast moving these days, one year's hot-button issue will have been replaced by next year's catastrophic event before you know it. Kind of difficult to keep up.

But in a very real sense, I think people are now realising during this pandemic that you can live without many climate-unfriendly things. International travel has pretty much within weeks reverted to levels last seen in the 1950s, which coincidentally was the last whole decade that the Earth produced enough natural resources per year to sustain the entire global population. I think in our time, places like Britain still use 1.5 times the resources the Earth can create in a year, and it's much worse in the U.S. and China.

All this doesn't mean that you must never-ever go to Magaluf again on a bargain package holiday, but maybe it will instill a sense in people that less can be more.
>> No. 24236 Anonymous
19th April 2020
Sunday 10:58 pm
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>>24235

>All this doesn't mean that you must never-ever go to Magaluf again on a bargain package holiday

People going on holiday once a year on a plane with 200-400 other people on it isn't really the issue, I really don't see the leisure side of the industry as a problem. People don't go on holiday every week, but people did, for some fucking reason, fly to Schipol or London every week for conferences that could have been done over the phone or Zoom. Business travel for meetings involving non tangible activities like presentations and communication was mind boggling to me before this kicked off, and should be seen as utterly extravagant forevermore.
>> No. 24237 Anonymous
19th April 2020
Sunday 10:59 pm
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>>24235
What's the rough split of flights between holidays, business and freight?
>> No. 24238 Anonymous
19th April 2020
Sunday 11:02 pm
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>>24235
>But in a very real sense, I think people are now realising during this pandemic that you can live without many climate-unfriendly things.
I hope you're right and that this sticks. I've been hearing a lot of similar sentiment but as I'm in an environmentalist-bubble it's hard for me to hear it as anything other than more misplaced optimism.
>> No. 24239 Anonymous
19th April 2020
Sunday 11:26 pm
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>>24235

I'd say it is profoundly naive of you to assume that the fact that people can go without new nice things for a month means that they don't want to do them again.
>> No. 24240 Anonymous
19th April 2020
Sunday 11:30 pm
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>but people did, for some fucking reason, fly to Schipol or London every week for conferences that could have been done over the phone or Zoom

I think that's really one of the things that will come out of this crisis. One of my brother's friends runs a consultant firm with ten consultants in total, and until the end of last year, they had a project with a British company's branch in Rome. It involved four consultants flying to Rome from Stansted every Monday morning, and back every Thursday evening. They had frequent flyer deals and the project paid handsomely, so travel expenses weren't an issue. But my brother's friend said a few weeks ago that they were already considering moving a lot of it online even before the coronavirus hit, because during the week they were mostly tied up in that one project with no real way of working on other ongoing side projects when there was a slow day. And all the getting off your tits and sampling the local prozzies in Rome's bars during the week kind of gets old after a while too apparently.
>> No. 24241 Anonymous
19th April 2020
Sunday 11:57 pm
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>>24239

Absolutely this. Plus if you haven't noticed people are going mental at the idea of not going to the pub for a month let alone travelling etc. The majority of people will not be financially ruined by this crisis, some may be better off if their commute and social life expenditures were more than 20% of their wage beforehand and they're now furloughed or WFH with full pay. I predict once we have the "all clear" the skies will be darker than ever and people will spend like mad.

I've always enjoyed a minimalist approach to life and spending, but most people live for the weekend and consuming. A couple of months where they have to queue for bread won't change that.
>> No. 24242 Anonymous
20th April 2020
Monday 12:00 am
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>>24240

My dad's wife is a project manager for some sort of banking shit and she used to have to commute from Ireland to Edinburgh four days a week, but now miraculously it seems she can do her job just fine from home, and has time left over for other things. I get that the only escape in the corporate world is getting to drink Peroni on a yacht sometimes but I think I'd prefer to just have an extra day off and not have to fly. Anyone who enjoys flying that often is clearly a psychopath anyway.
>> No. 24243 Anonymous
20th April 2020
Monday 12:11 am
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>>24193
I know you're being sardonic but in any case the "journalist" will be safely ensconced some distance away in a Renault Clio, snapping these unsuspecting saps through a telephoto lens.

I live in hope that one of these vermin are caught in the act someday soon, dragged from their car and lynched. If a mob beats them to death using "non-essential" items, I will be most satisfied.

Put that on your front page, cunts.
>> No. 24244 Anonymous
20th April 2020
Monday 12:23 am
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>>24240

Zoom will be the norm for a bit, then people will make special trips occasionally to impress an important prospect or client, then soon it'll seem like a diss if you can't be arsed to make the trip and we're back where we started.
>> No. 24245 Anonymous
20th April 2020
Monday 1:00 am
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I hope not. Videochat has been a thing since the late 90s and the best we've come up with in twenty years is fucking Zoom. Zoomed? More like fucking doomed.
>> No. 24246 Anonymous
20th April 2020
Monday 1:14 am
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I don't understand why zoom has become so dominate it is nothing new. I was using the same systems under different names 10-12 years ago in work.
>> No. 24247 Anonymous
20th April 2020
Monday 1:17 am
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>>24246

I don't understand why the entire internet seemingly can't differentiate between dominant and dominate. At first I put it down to ESL types fucking things up but now I've seen it here I'm starting to wonder if I've finally lost the plot.
>> No. 24248 Anonymous
20th April 2020
Monday 1:23 am
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>>24246

Maintaining a reliable multi-user video conference across many different devices and flaky home broadband is a heck of a lot more complicated than you might imagine. Zoom have developed some very clever tricks for low-latency transcoding and packet loss mitigation that put them miles ahead of everyone else.
>> No. 24249 Anonymous
20th April 2020
Monday 1:39 am
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> Zoom have developed some very clever tricks for low-latency transcoding and packet loss mitigation that put them miles ahead of everyone else.

And yet their Android client uses a six year old branch of WebRTC? Something doesn't add up there, lad.
>> No. 24250 Anonymous
20th April 2020
Monday 2:19 am
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>>24249

Zoom use RTCDataChannel and getUserMedia, but not RTCPeerConnection. WebRTC is BSD-licensed, so using bits of it within a proprietary stack is the norm. Facebook Messenger uses a completely non-standard fork of WebRTC, as does Discord and Google Hangouts.
>> No. 24251 Anonymous
20th April 2020
Monday 2:22 am
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>>24248

Makes sense. I guess Communicating from one tech office to another tech office is a level of perfect conditions that normal people don't provide.
>> No. 24252 Anonymous
20th April 2020
Monday 2:43 am
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>>24250

The point is that the branch they're using hasn't been updated in six years (or so I've been reliably informed) not that they created their own branch six years ago.
>> No. 24253 Anonymous
20th April 2020
Monday 2:56 am
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>>24252

If it works and it's secure, what's the problem?
>> No. 24254 Anonymous
20th April 2020
Monday 5:47 am
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There have been articles even in the mainstream press about how insecure Zoom is. I'd be interested to hear >>24250's take on this.
>> No. 24255 Anonymous
20th April 2020
Monday 8:29 am
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZ-tCc3S8V8

WW3 coming.
>> No. 24256 Anonymous
20th April 2020
Monday 8:38 am
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>>24255
The law suit is doomed to fail.

Foreign governments have immunity to be prosecuted under US law.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Sovereign_Immunities_Act
>> No. 24257 Anonymous
20th April 2020
Monday 8:49 am
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>>24256 Is that reporter a real person with a funny voice, or is she synthetic?
>> No. 24258 Anonymous
20th April 2020
Monday 9:28 am
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>>24256

That's why we have to nuke them instead.
>> No. 24259 Anonymous
20th April 2020
Monday 10:19 am
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I don't even want to leave lockdown anymore, I like it here.
>> No. 24260 Anonymous
20th April 2020
Monday 10:28 am
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Coronavirus: 'Low confidence' over arrival of PPE from Turkey

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52351029

Why aren't we making enough PPE here instead of relying on buying it from abroad?
>> No. 24261 Anonymous
20th April 2020
Monday 10:53 am
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>>24260
I'm going with the standard lefty "Thatcher killed our industries".
>> No. 24262 Anonymous
20th April 2020
Monday 2:23 pm
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>>24260

The current demand for PPE is completely unprecedented. It's not a matter of having domestic production capacity for PPE, but having production capacity for hundreds of times more PPE than we normally use. With the exception of a few Asian countries that had close calls with SARS or MERS, nobody had invested in preparing for a once-in-a-century pandemic, so governments are falling over each other to buy whatever PPE is available.

FFP3 masks and fluid-resistant gowns are made of highly specialised materials, namely meltblown and spunbond polypropylene. The machinery to produce these materials costs several million quid and is the size of a small terrace of houses; until a couple of months ago, nobody thought it was worth having an entire textile factory sitting around idle just in case we desperately needed vast quantities of a very specific material in a massive hurry.
>> No. 24263 Anonymous
20th April 2020
Monday 2:30 pm
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Zoom is no less secure than most web services, they just took the piss with their marketing. They claimed to offer "end-to-end encryption", which is normally understood to mean that the entire chain from user to user is fully encrypted; true end-to-end encryption means that the company handling your messages couldn't read them even if they tried. Connections to and from Zoom's servers are encrypted, but your video streams are decrypted on their servers so that they can be re-encoded and processed. It's possible that a highly motivated adversary could hack Zoom's servers or bribe/coerce Zoom in order to eavesdrop on specific meetings. Zoom is secure enough for the vast majority of business communications, but it isn't really secure enough for high-level government communications.
>> No. 24264 Anonymous
20th April 2020
Monday 3:13 pm
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>It's possible that a highly motivated adversary could hack Zoom's servers or bribe/coerce Zoom in order to eavesdrop on specific meetings.
Script kiddies are doing this right now (and then posting porn into the meeting, obviously).
https://www.ocregister.com/2020/04/01/laguna-beach-city-council-meeting-is-bombed-on-zoom-with-pornography/

They also got hacked and half a million user accounts are now available on the darknet. Details included "email address, passwords, personal meeting URLs, and HostKey"
https://gadgets.ndtv.com/apps/news/zoom-hacked-accounts-dark-web-free-penny-report-2211698
I get that this is a risk for any internet-based service provider, but it's not a good look.
>> No. 24265 Anonymous
20th April 2020
Monday 3:17 pm
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>Script kiddies are doing this right now (and then posting porn into the meeting, obviously).

It's not really Zoom's fault if you create a room with no password protection and post the invite link publicly.

>They also got hacked and half a million user accounts are now available on the darknet.

They didn't, but half a million people re-used their username and password from another service that did get hacked:

These credentials are gathered through credential stuffing attacks where threat actors attempt to login to Zoom using accounts leaked in older data breaches.
>> No. 24266 Anonymous
20th April 2020
Monday 7:34 pm
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News just said that the spot price for oil is negative - they're paying you to take delivery today. Got to love futures.
Fuck's sake, a little pandemic and the world goes mad(der).
>> No. 24267 Anonymous
20th April 2020
Monday 7:41 pm
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>>24253
>>24265

There are two critical 0days being offered for sale for silly money right now so the hunt is on amongst the whitehats to find (some of) the vulnerabilities and get them patched before some cunt sells "take over every zoom client/server in the world" capability to some two bit anti-free speech government like Bahrain, Saudi Arabia or even Britain.

The current word on da streetz is that a bunch of issues stem from Zoom clients using out of date (full of old, known, patched in main branch security bugs) open source library versions. Two people in particular (one of whom is very, very, smart) suggest that they're found old, known, exploitable bugs in Zoom's WebRTC implementation and are presumably working to get those fixed.

I imagine there will be a big write-up coming out of Google's weaponised autism unit Project Zero within the next week or two at most.

Sage because infosec is generally more full of propaganda and lies than a .gs post about pissing up Phil's mum's arse.
>> No. 24268 Anonymous
20th April 2020
Monday 10:02 pm
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>Branson says he needs a government loan to keep Virgin Atlantic afloat and uses private island as collateral


I'm not even sure why I feel like Branson is being a bigger cunt than normal.
>> No. 24269 Anonymous
20th April 2020
Monday 10:28 pm
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>>24268
I'm being thick, probably.
If, for instance, a gym stops getting customers through the doors (and subscribers manage to cancel), it'll likely not be able to pay rent and get closed down.
This is obviously grim for any employees, since UC is fuck-all.

When conditions allow, won't a gym start up, probably in the same location and with the same gear and probably same customers, but with no debt burden and a probably renegotiated rent?
Fory gym, substitute a vast number of service and retail outlets and probably airlines?
Will someone with a cash pile hoover up all the gym gear and remaindered planes ready for this event?
I just don't know what shape the world's going to be in, in a year or two. Are the banks going to own everything because they've repossessed it, or are they going to be fucked because nobody's paying them back and just going bust / getting the receivers in?
(and then there's wwIII of course)
I'm flailing worse than usual.
>> No. 24270 Anonymous
20th April 2020
Monday 10:42 pm
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>Are the banks going to own everything because they've repossessed it, or are they going to be fucked because nobody's paying them back and just going bust / getting the receivers in?

A lot of commercial property in this country is owned by investment funds, who don't really know what's going to happen. Every single open ended UK property fund suspended trading just over a month ago because none of them are able to accurately value the properties they own. Investors could try pulling their money out if the shit well and truly hits the fan, but they'd probably just suspend trading again.
>> No. 24271 Anonymous
20th April 2020
Monday 10:53 pm
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Yeah, by all accounts a veritable fuckload of commercial rent went unpaid this month, much of it by the biggest and most lucrative names in the business. Local businesses have been politely asking their landlords for accommodations, while the likes of Wetherspoon and Coral have basically told their landlords to swivel.
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20th April 2020
Monday 10:54 pm
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>>24269

>If, for instance, a gym stops getting customers through the doors (and subscribers manage to cancel), it'll likely not be able to pay rent and get closed down.
This is obviously grim for any employees, since UC is fuck-all.

>When conditions allow, won't a gym start up, probably in the same location and with the same gear and probably same customers, but with no debt burden and a probably renegotiated rent?

Quite possibly, but the gym will go bust owing a lot of people a lot of money - rent, utilities, wages, financing on equipment, invoices for supplies etc. The debt burden of the gym won't disappear, it'll just get passed on to someone else. The new gym will be re-opening in a market full of failing businesses, record unemployment and general uncertainty about the future. They'll have a hard job raising the money needed to open up and a hard job finding customers willing to commit to an expensive membership.

We're hoping for what you suggest - a "v-shaped recovery" in the jargon - but it's also likely that we might see a much slower and more painful recovery.
>> No. 24273 Anonymous
20th April 2020
Monday 11:06 pm
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>since UC is fuck-all.
If you're 35 or older you can get quite a bit of rent, around £450, more in London. The £75 a week to live on is the curse, especially since on UC you have to pay 25% of the council tax bill, so they're basically giving you money and then taking it away again.

Saying that, they've bumped it up this month - an extra ~£100, to be duly squandered on old videogames.
>> No. 24274 Anonymous
20th April 2020
Monday 11:21 pm
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Best to take up smoking again, from the looks of it.

https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/health/1269815/coronavirus-smoking-chinese-study-nicotine-pneumonia
>> No. 24275 Anonymous
21st April 2020
Tuesday 12:13 am
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>express.co.uk

Yeah, nah. I refuse to click the link but that shitrag and its fucking work experience "journalists" probably scraped some un-peer reviewed draft from BiorXiv that probably said something like "some smokers have had less severe symptoms despite their compromised immune system" and sensationalised the fuck out of it.
>> No. 24276 Anonymous
21st April 2020
Tuesday 8:44 am
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>>24275
Well you'd know if you didn't have some strangely grandiose idea of what a click is worth, wouldn't you?
>> No. 24277 Anonymous
21st April 2020
Tuesday 9:30 am
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Ahaha, fuck OPEC, but also how do we get food into shops if the oil industry collapses? Whatever, this is a joke, someone press F9.
>> No. 24278 Anonymous
21st April 2020
Tuesday 9:39 am
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>>24277 In the words of those rubberbandit lads, 'fuck your honda civic, I've got a horse outside'.

It's hard to get red diesel at the moment - the wholesaler has a tank he paid lots for, and he wants that for it. Nobody wants to pay it, as we all know that the next tank will be cheaper. Deflation on a tiny but brutal scale.
>> No. 24279 Anonymous
21st April 2020
Tuesday 9:42 am
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Did it not seem strange to you how many people have had a sudden interest in gardening this year? Not just on gs but around the country?
>> No. 24280 Anonymous
21st April 2020
Tuesday 9:45 am
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"EasyJet said it expected a pre-tax loss of between £185m and £205m for the six months to 31 March, although this would mark an improvement after a £275m loss in the same period a year earlier."

ok, you're just taking the piss now, easyjet. You make less of a loss when flights are stopped. Somehow, you're just not very good at this airline thing.
(I accept that this is a wild oversimplification).
>> No. 24281 Anonymous
21st April 2020
Tuesday 11:28 am
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Admiral are giving all their car insurance policyholders a £25 refund because there's fewer cars on the road so fewer anticipated claims.

https://www.admiral.com/stayathome

It'd be nice if the others followed suit.
>> No. 24282 Anonymous
21st April 2020
Tuesday 11:36 am
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If you're talking about the oil price thing, it was specifically a futures contract in the US which went crazy because the people that would usually buy it physically don't have anywhere to put it and the traders were left with about 3 hours to shift the contracts they had left or face someone trying to deliver barrels of crude to their office.

Granted, it "only" had to fall $20 for that to happen because of the Saudis recent attempt to fuck over the Russians.
>> No. 24283 Anonymous
21st April 2020
Tuesday 12:35 pm
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The overall decline in oil prices is staggering though.

I got petrol for £1.03 at a service station in Glasgow the other day. The last time that I can remember petrol being a quid was quite a long time ago.
>> No. 24284 Anonymous
21st April 2020
Tuesday 1:38 pm
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>>24283
The drops around 2015-6 were part of a concerted effort to combat ISIS by limiting the revenue from hijacked oilfields (which had the side effect of ruining Venezuela). The steep drop this year is as a result of the beef between Saudi and Russia.

In short, this is why we keep selling weapons to the Arabs.
>> No. 24285 Anonymous
21st April 2020
Tuesday 1:42 pm
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So what have you been doing with your free crude?

I've just had a bath in it. Supposed to be lovely for your skin. I've got a couple of barrels spare I might have a go at watering the flowerbeds with.

Wonder if it goes well in a smoothie?
>> No. 24286 Anonymous
21st April 2020
Tuesday 1:46 pm
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Looks like the Men in Grey may have been at it again, astroturfing Twitter with 128 fake NHS worker accounts posting pro-government propaganda. Someone traced at least 7 of the real people whose photographs had been used for the accounts (unbeknownst to them). All accounts deleted at the same time when exposed. DHSC issues unconvincing denial of any involvement https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1252342364644929536
>> No. 24287 Anonymous
21st April 2020
Tuesday 1:47 pm
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Attempting to create real life Fern Gully.
>> No. 24288 Anonymous
21st April 2020
Tuesday 2:21 pm
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>Posts were sent using Hootsuite, a mass-posting tool. Account registered to 1 person with 4 assigned contributors.
How can he know this?

I can only assume that's why later in the thread he talks about "legal advice" over his methodology.
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21st April 2020
Tuesday 4:29 pm
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He mentions having sources at one point. But then again, who's more trustworthy; a random twitter user or our government's own factcheckUK?
>> No. 24290 Anonymous
21st April 2020
Tuesday 7:15 pm
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The oil price has fallen because, (deep breath):

Through the last two decades the US and Canada have produced more and more oil every year from shale oil and other sources, for a long time the increases barely kept up with demand and prices remained high except post financial crisis.
In 2014 with demand slowing due to efficiency, low growth, and Chinas economy slowing, Saudi Arabia was quite miffed that the US was turning from the worlds biggest oil importer to one of the biggest exporters, and they decided to ramp up production as high as they could. This caused oil prices to crash.
This caused a lot of the less profitable wells in the US and the rest of the world to shut down, a lot of oil companies went bankrupt, but by and large the US was able to continue production at mostly the same rate thanks to efficiency savings, mergers, and with a ton of blank cheques from investors.
The plan having royally gone tits up, Saudi Arabia ended up getting OPEC+ to agree to a production cut to prop up prices back to levels where they could balance their books. This more or less worked up until March.
With demand slumping due to Corona, OPEC+ discussed cutting production even more. This is widely reported as being solely a disagreement between Russia and the Sauds, but in reality it was very much the two of them standing against the US as much as each other.
What followed is basically 2014 on steroids. Saudi Arabia pulled out all the stops, has been loading up every single tanker it can get their hands on, and sending them full of crude oil to the US, even to the extent of diverting tankers which were already on their way to other destinations, all the while saying "it's all Russias fault we've got to do this".
OPEC+ has now agreed to a huge production cut. Trump is acting like it's his victory getting them to agree to this deal but it's not in the slightest. Saudi Arabia and Russia have already won, decisively. The rest of the world is just about managing to move oil around, but the US is now about to see such a massive glut of oil that crude will come to a complete halt, the whole industry will shut down for months except the refineries.
>> No. 24291 Anonymous
21st April 2020
Tuesday 7:28 pm
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>>24278

He should order another few tanks and amortise his loss by spreading the hit over the sales of those tanks, during which time the price might even go back up.
>> No. 24292 Anonymous
21st April 2020
Tuesday 9:51 pm
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>>24290
Why didn't the US government start buying oil (/being paid to take it) and storing it wherever they could? The US already has strategic petroleum reserve facilities, and surely they've got the land somewhere that can hold barrels. As well as improving their strategic position against the Saudis/Russians it seems that when this is over, some crude, accounting (ignoring the complexities of actual fiscal policy etc) would suggest that the government re-selling the oil it got paid to take once economic activity gets going again would help improve the state of the national budget.
>> No. 24293 Anonymous
21st April 2020
Tuesday 10:17 pm
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>>24292
The US strategic oil reserves have a rated capacity of around 710 million barrels, and current levels are about 635. Before March they had been in the process of selling off part of the inventory to fund infrastructure improvements and repairs.
In March when the price crashed to $30 a barrel, Trump tried to buy 75million barrels to fill it, but congress voted against it so it wasn't funded (either due to foresight or just a middle finger to Trump).

However 75million barrels isn't enough to make a huge difference. The reserves aren't designed to be filled quickly (not sure exactly how quick but I believe that the reserve will take a few weeks at least to get filled to full capacity). The current global oil production is at 95 million barrells a day and consumption is at 75million barrels per day, so filling the US strategic reserve to the brim only really represents a few days of the total current global surplus.
>> No. 24294 Anonymous
21st April 2020
Tuesday 10:58 pm
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Why can't they just stop pumping so much oil?
>> No. 24295 Anonymous
22nd April 2020
Wednesday 8:36 am
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Oil storage facilities filled to the brim, you say?
Anyone had a sniff round Buncefield, see how explodey it's smelling?
>> No. 24296 Anonymous
22nd April 2020
Wednesday 9:17 am
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Financial Times just released an analysis of UK deaths putting the death toll at more than double the official numbers.
https://amp.ft.com/content/67e6a4ee-3d05-43bc-ba03-e239799fa6ab
>> No. 24297 Anonymous
22nd April 2020
Wednesday 9:21 am
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>Excess deaths from all causes stand 16,952 above the seasonal average across the UK since fatalities from Covid-19, the disease caused by the virus, began to mount in mid-March.
Where's that poster who was saying deaths at home and in care homes aren't miscounted? I want to tell him "fuck you, idiot".
>> No. 24298 Anonymous
22nd April 2020
Wednesday 9:40 am
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>>24297 Wasn't he saying that there's an understandable lag in reporting, rather than a conspiracy to reduce the numbers?
>> No. 24299 Anonymous
22nd April 2020
Wednesday 9:51 am
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>>24298
The lag is hardly understandable if we're the only country that has it and we go on to talk about those numbers as if they're comparable with the countries that don't. That would be nonsensical.
>> No. 24300 Anonymous
22nd April 2020
Wednesday 11:23 am
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>>24288
Update: appears to be bollocks.
https://fullfact.org/online/evidence-network-fake-nhs-tweets/
>> No. 24301 Anonymous
22nd April 2020
Wednesday 11:31 am
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>>24300
Next you'll be telling me the claims that the Tories passed a bill saying animals can't feel pain was a load of bollocks too.
>> No. 24302 Anonymous
22nd April 2020
Wednesday 11:53 am
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>>24298

Quite right the fact that people quote government sources that tell them the numbers are higher would be the proof they aren't covering anything up. My biggest criticism was the media and people expecting upto date figures that couldn't possibly exist and then acting shocked they needed to be updated later. There will be accurate figures. Expect them to be published years after the even when it is studied academically.

>>24299

I am going to assume you haven't actually looked into the methodology of other countries and just assume their data is perfect, so you can use it as a stick to beat with in a weird self hatred of this country. Tracking across countries is going to be different by definition of their different approaches and therefore only crudely comparable. No one has magically perfect data and certainly not every country other than Britain.
>> No. 24303 Anonymous
22nd April 2020
Wednesday 12:00 pm
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>>24302

Other countries are including care home deaths in their numbers. Countries like Scotland, for example. Care to explain why we have this mysterious "lag" in counting the deaths in England, N. Ireland, Scotland and Wales but Scotland themselves don't have it? Is it the case that Scotland is too different to Scotland so we just can't draw an accurate comparison there?
>> No. 24304 Anonymous
22nd April 2020
Wednesday 12:15 pm
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I also fully appreciate the weird, American "you're just not patriotic enough!" attitude implicit in this statement
>so you can use it as a stick to beat with in a weird self hatred of this country
When it's perfectly obvious it's the government I have an issue with. "Don't criticise the president you traitor!".
>> No. 24305 Anonymous
22nd April 2020
Wednesday 12:34 pm
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>>24294

Someone respond pls.

(A good day to you Sir!)
>> No. 24306 Anonymous
22nd April 2020
Wednesday 12:54 pm
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>>24305
No.
>> No. 24307 Anonymous
22nd April 2020
Wednesday 12:55 pm
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>>24305
Because you can't just "switch off" an oil well like you would a TV.
>> No. 24308 Anonymous
22nd April 2020
Wednesday 1:27 pm
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>>24304

It isn't weirdly American at all. you get a particular type of conservative mindset that at ever possible moment declares 'I hate this country', as if everything was a systematic problem that warranted such reaction. What I am insinuating is that is the attitude of the person I was responding to. Statistics are measured differently here to how they would like: 'I hate this country they cant do anything right'.
>> No. 24309 Anonymous
22nd April 2020
Wednesday 1:31 pm
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>>24307

Why can't they just slow it down?
>> No. 24310 Anonymous
22nd April 2020
Wednesday 1:51 pm
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>>24307

They've never thought of putting a tap on the pipe?
>> No. 24311 Anonymous
22nd April 2020
Wednesday 1:53 pm
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>>24309

The problem is not the oil production the problem is within the futures market.

The oil production will have slowed down, drills will have been turned off (it isn't as quick as a TV but it isn't a nightmare thing to do, like say a powerplant is).

The issue is they sold the contract to buy that oil 6 months ago, someone thought they were being clever by agreeing to buy that oil with the plan of selling the agreement to buy that oil later and now no one wants to buy that oil so they are stuck with oil they don't want, which means they have to sell that oil to people who aren't interested in having it (because their office in Wall st or the CIty unsurprisingly can't store all that oil) so they actually have to pay people to have it, rather than them buying it from them.
>> No. 24312 Anonymous
22nd April 2020
Wednesday 2:02 pm
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>>24311

So it's the jews.

(A good day to you Sir!)
>> No. 24314 Anonymous
22nd April 2020
Wednesday 2:45 pm
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>>24313

Okay lad if you wan't to pretend 'BROKEN BRITAIN', Richard Littlejohn and the daily mail are things that don't exist, I don't blame you.
>> No. 24315 Anonymous
22nd April 2020
Wednesday 2:46 pm
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>>24314

Yes mate, because when someone's criticising the Tories for putting the economy above the health of the general public, accusing them of being a conservative is a totally logical thing to do.
>> No. 24316 Anonymous
22nd April 2020
Wednesday 2:48 pm
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>>24314
I think you'll find the Mail is a left-wing rag now.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8245001/Keir-Starmer-tears-Dominic-Raab-coronavirus-blunders.html
>> No. 24317 Anonymous
22nd April 2020
Wednesday 2:50 pm
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>>24315

I don't think you understand what words mean, I would describe the average UKIP voter as conservative, that doesn't mean they vote for the conservative party. I might describe my friend who has a job as a socialist, that doesn't mean they have to be a member of the socialist workers party.
>> No. 24318 Anonymous
22nd April 2020
Wednesday 2:59 pm
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>>24312

Those 'jews' are the ones losing out the most from this, they both paid to buy a million barrels of oil and now have to pay someone to take them away again.
>> No. 24319 Anonymous
22nd April 2020
Wednesday 3:10 pm
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>>24268
It's quite funny watching Duncan Bannatyne on Twitter being a cunt to the likes of Richard Branson.

https://twitter.com/DuncanBannatyne
>> No. 24320 Anonymous
22nd April 2020
Wednesday 3:12 pm
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>>24317

Cool. Well whatever irrelevant tangent you want to go off on arguing, the number of deaths being more than double what are being reported - when we know that they can be reported accurately in countries just like our own - is not simply "not perfect", that's a hell of a lot more than a rounding error. With all other evidence pointing to the Tories still trying to push the "herd immunity" strategy and a low death rate being an argument for that, it all starts to look like deliberate malfeasance.
>> No. 24321 Anonymous
22nd April 2020
Wednesday 3:24 pm
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>>24320
>when we know that they can be reported accurately in countries just like our own
Lad, just stop it. We're using the same international standard methodology as everyone else. There are a lot of things to criticise the government for in its handling of this pandemic, but this isn't one of them.
>> No. 24322 Anonymous
22nd April 2020
Wednesday 3:32 pm
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>>24321

That's weird you'd say that because according to >>24302 they're using other methodologies. Also, they are counting deaths in care homes and at home.
>> No. 24324 Anonymous
22nd April 2020
Wednesday 4:45 pm
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>>24320

>With all other evidence pointing to the Tories still trying to push the "herd immunity" strategy and a low death rate being an argument for that, it all starts to look like deliberate malfeasance.

Don't you have a telemast to burn down for turning the frogs gay lad?
>> No. 24325 Anonymous
22nd April 2020
Wednesday 4:50 pm
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>>24320
If you're saying they handled this in the way they did out of a deliberate desire to kill people I find that very silly, but their laissez-faire attitude was ideologically motivated. It's important not to get your wires crossed there.
>> No. 24326 Anonymous
22nd April 2020
Wednesday 4:51 pm
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>>24322

The standard is for reporting confirmed cases, you have to confirm those cases first to record them. If say you are testing everyone, or you are choosing not to test people to save face, or you are only testing key workers pre-emptively to stop them spreading the disease, those are going to give quite different results even though you are following the methodology for reporting confirmed cases.
>> No. 24328 Anonymous
22nd April 2020
Wednesday 6:05 pm
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>>24324

I've got public record of the Tories saying they're going for the herd immunity angle, flip-flopping on it publicly while continuing to act as though it's what they're doing and a history of them repeatedly lying to the public to suit their previous agendas. It's not exactly far fetched.
>> No. 24329 Anonymous
22nd April 2020
Wednesday 6:35 pm
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>>24328

When I think of methods of exposing the population to the disease to gain herd immunity the tactic I think of is a month long, and set to keep going nationwide lock down.
>> No. 24330 Anonymous
22nd April 2020
Wednesday 6:42 pm
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>>24329

Shame they didn't do that until public opinion forced them to. See
>flip-flopping on it publicly
>> No. 24333 Anonymous
22nd April 2020
Wednesday 7:47 pm
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>>24309>>24311

Part of the problem is the futures market, the other part of the problem is that individual companies pumping oil are fucked both ways.

In the USA, there are several thousand companies pumping oil out the ground. A large portion of the oil produced in the US is from companies who only have 1 well running. Slowing down their pumping is a literal drop in an ocean and will make no difference to oil prices but their costs stay the same no matter how much they pump. So they face a choice between pumping as much oil as possible as long as they can make at least enough to pay their overheads, or alternatively they stop pumping, lay off all the workers and default on their loans.
The same issue still applies to the big companies like chevron but they have much more flexibility thanks to their size.
>> No. 24334 Anonymous
22nd April 2020
Wednesday 7:50 pm
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>>24333

Aren't there also some Russian pipelines that'll literally freeze if they're stopped? Or am I mixing up oil and gas?
>> No. 24335 Anonymous
22nd April 2020
Wednesday 8:16 pm
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>>24330

That isn't the point you can't have it both ways. You can't say 'they are trying to give us herd immunity' and 'they have flip flopped and aren't trying to give us herd immunity any more'. You are the proverbial chess playing pigeon. Either they have a top secret plan to infect us all that is beyond normal deductive reasoning to see which means they planned to fudge the data all along, or they are flip-flopping popularists they can't be both.
>> No. 24336 Anonymous
22nd April 2020
Wednesday 8:31 pm
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>>24335

Publicly flip-flopped, lad. That they're saying they're not doing it due to public pressure but still are, as evidenced by their actions. Christ you lot just read whatever you want to into things.
>> No. 24337 Anonymous
22nd April 2020
Wednesday 8:41 pm
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>>24336

>as evidenced by their actions

These actions that are in no was sabotaged and completely contradicted by a nation wide lock down and their public statements since they adopted that tactic. Do you even think before you make these claims?
>> No. 24338 Anonymous
22nd April 2020
Wednesday 8:46 pm
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>>24337

Their actions like repeatedly not bothering to get PPE or ventilators when they had the chance and astroturfing to try and change public opinion back to herd immunity?

>their public statements
You're having a laugh.
>> No. 24339 Anonymous
22nd April 2020
Wednesday 8:54 pm
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>>24338
>astroturfing to try and change public opinion back to herd immunity
u wot m8?
>> No. 24340 Anonymous
22nd April 2020
Wednesday 9:21 pm
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>>24339

I love when people join in on an argument without even having read the thread.
>> No. 24344 Anonymous
22nd April 2020
Wednesday 10:01 pm
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>>24340
Oh, are you referring to the shit-stirring whore on Twitter who apparently has put out some stuff about fake Twitter accounts but won't tell anyone what's up because they're not ready to go public even though he went public already?
>> No. 24347 Anonymous
22nd April 2020
Wednesday 10:09 pm
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>>24344
>the shit-stirring whore
Wow, you're really sensitive about people criticising the tories.
>> No. 24348 Anonymous
22nd April 2020
Wednesday 10:22 pm
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>>24347
On the contrary, I'm sensitive about people making up stories about the Tories, because it makes real criticism easier to dismiss.
>> No. 24350 Anonymous
22nd April 2020
Wednesday 10:35 pm
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>>24348

Don't see why. The tories making shit up is what got them into power, seems only fair we can do the same.

I heard Boris didn't clap last thursday.
>> No. 24351 Anonymous
22nd April 2020
Wednesday 10:38 pm
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I heard Boris has got the clap, poor bugger must have been self isolating with his nurse
>> No. 24353 Anonymous
22nd April 2020
Wednesday 10:50 pm
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>>24351
It's the other way round. He heard it was "clap for an NHS nurse" so decided to oblige.
>> No. 24354 Anonymous
22nd April 2020
Wednesday 10:59 pm
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2OxUiVPhEo
>> No. 24355 Anonymous
22nd April 2020
Wednesday 11:58 pm
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>>24354
We can expect more of this I think.
>> No. 24361 Anonymous
23rd April 2020
Thursday 2:59 pm
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Young and early middle age people apparently aren't as immune as previously thought.

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/22/health/strokes-coronavirus-young-adults/index.html

>The new coronavirus appears to be causing sudden strokes in adults in their 30s and 40s who are not otherwise terribly ill, doctors reported Wednesday.

>They said patients may be unwilling to call 911 because they have heard hospitals are overwhelmed by coronavirus cases.

>There's growing evidence that Covid-19 infection can cause the blood to clot in unusual ways, and stroke would be an expected consequence of that
>> No. 24362 Anonymous
23rd April 2020
Thursday 3:06 pm
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>sudden strokes

Not the only time someone has had a sudden stroke, IYKWIM.
>> No. 24371 Anonymous
23rd April 2020
Thursday 8:14 pm
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Almost 10 minutes of someone banging a spoon on a pan in support of the NHS. Fuck sake.
>> No. 24372 Anonymous
23rd April 2020
Thursday 8:45 pm
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>>24371
It's become performative do-gooding.
>> No. 24373 Anonymous
23rd April 2020
Thursday 9:04 pm
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My excuses so far for not clapping:
Week 1: I literally didn't know.
Week 2: I forgot.
Week 3: I was walking the dogs.
Week 4: I had a really bad headache.

That's what I'll tell the Mumsnet Gestapo when they kick my door in after this is over and by Jove it's the truth.
>> No. 24374 Anonymous
23rd April 2020
Thursday 11:39 pm
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>>24373

>the Mumsnet Gestapo

Many mirth.

Their kind are paranoid bints on a good day, even without corona.
>> No. 24375 Anonymous
24th April 2020
Friday 7:43 am
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Coronavirus: Outcry after Trump suggests injecting disinfectant as treatment

US President Donald Trump has been lambasted by the medical community after suggesting research into whether coronavirus might be treated by injecting disinfectant into the body.

He also appeared to propose irradiating patients' bodies with UV light, an idea dismissed by a doctor at the briefing. Another of his officials had moments earlier said sunlight and disinfectant were known to kill the infection.

Mr Trump's own public health agencies warn against bleach as a medicine.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52407177

What a time to be alive.
>> No. 24376 Anonymous
24th April 2020
Friday 8:25 am
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>>24375 It's like talking to your mildly retarded cousin, isn't it...
"I herd this thing on facebook, we should look in to it"
Are the other place putting ideas in his mind / doing any decent covid trolling?
>> No. 24377 Anonymous
24th April 2020
Friday 9:12 am
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>>24376
I read that there's a lot of Russian meddling to encourage the protests in America to try and destabilise the country and increase the number of deaths there.

It sounds like the whole Trump team are bananas.

>We can use really good public safety measures, social distancing the work force, disinfectants everywhere, masks. I was thinking this morning, and this is just kind of a thought experiment because I was thinking about this — why don’t we just put everybody in a space outfit or something like that? No. Seriously, I mean —

>I know we don’t have space outfits [laughter]— I mean, just thinking out loud, and maybe this is a crazy idea, but instead of just locking down the economy, putting everybody in a kind of — you’re right. You have to make 200 million of these, but it wouldn’t have cost $3 trillion to do that. And you can have for months people just walking around in these kind of — I mean, I was looking online, and there are all these kinds of suits that they’re building now that you’re not exposed and you’re breath — kind of ventilator.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/22/us/politics/stephen-moore-coronavirus-economy.html
>> No. 24378 Anonymous
24th April 2020
Friday 10:05 am
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>>24375
I said to someone yesterday, before he came out with this, "I think he might honestly be trying to throw the 2020 election" and I'm not being swayed from that position by this.
>> No. 24379 Anonymous
24th April 2020
Friday 11:19 am
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>>24378

If he keeps telling his voters to inject themselves with bleach, they will all be dead anyway.

Win-win, if you really think about it.
>> No. 24381 Anonymous
24th April 2020
Friday 11:28 am
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>>24379
He'll deny he's ever said it. Research in America has found hydroxychloroquine is less effective than standard treatment; Trump responded denying he'd ever endorsed it, even though his administration were still promoting it this week.
>> No. 24382 Anonymous
24th April 2020
Friday 11:38 am
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>>24381
Forgot to say, the response from his supporters has been the usual mental gymnastics.

"The doctors didn't administer it properly. They sabotaged the testing because they're in the pocket of Big Pharma."
"72% of people taking it surviving means it cured 72% of people."
"The media hates hydroxychloroquine because the media hates Trump!"
>> No. 24383 Anonymous
24th April 2020
Friday 12:42 pm
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I'm quite amused at those videos of Trump's ageing, unfit supporters collectively gathering, refusing to wear masks, and shouting for hours about how the virus is liberal fake news. It's as though the most vulnerable slice of the American public is behaving in such a way as to maximise their chance of getting sick.
>> No. 24384 Anonymous
24th April 2020
Friday 1:39 pm
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>>24383

Its great isn't it.

And to think, you lot called me a fascist when I said the lockdown is a bad idea because it'd do us good to thin the herd.
>> No. 24385 Anonymous
24th April 2020
Friday 1:52 pm
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>>24383
You laugh now but wait until November when this group is the only one who can risk the polling station due to herd immunity. All the limp-wristed lefties trying to flatten the curve into next year don't understand the high-risk/high-reward nature of American democracy.

Trump will be out meeting people across the country while Biden will be videoconferencing about the dangers of polio.
>> No. 24386 Anonymous
24th April 2020
Friday 2:21 pm
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>>24385
And this is exactly why they're trying to push the vote by mail option, which the GOP are desperately trying to crush.
>> No. 24387 Anonymous
24th April 2020
Friday 3:00 pm
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>>24375
He doesn't say to inject disinfectant, nor suggest it. He's quite clearly wondering if the principles that disinfectants work by would be applicable in the body. Any point of ridicule can only be aimed at his apparent public miscomprehension - the very same the reporters would have you believe of his abstraction of thought. It's surely this kind of abstraction that contributes to his level of success.
>> No. 24388 Anonymous
24th April 2020
Friday 3:01 pm
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>>24387
Wondering something out loud is the same as suggesting it.
>> No. 24389 Anonymous
24th April 2020
Friday 5:49 pm
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>>24388

That doesn't sound morally, legally, or logically consistent to me.
>> No. 24390 Anonymous
24th April 2020
Friday 5:53 pm
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>>24388
This goes double when said into the microphone onto the lectern with the POTUS seal on it.
>> No. 24391 Anonymous
24th April 2020
Friday 6:20 pm
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>>24389
>> No. 24393 Anonymous
24th April 2020
Friday 8:18 pm
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>>24390 Nah, it's all OK.

"On Friday, Mr Trump said his comments during Thursday's coronavirus taskforce briefing had been made "sarcastically"."

On Friday afternoon, Mr Trump told journalists: "I was asking a question sarcastically to reporters like you just to see what would happen,"

From https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52411706

I don't know wtf is going on. Election throwing, russian glove puppeting, dementia, just being the same twat he's always been, or ???
>> No. 24394 Anonymous
24th April 2020
Friday 8:25 pm
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>>24393
As a businessmen leading a nation during a global pandemic; he's out of his depth.
>> No. 24395 Anonymous
24th April 2020
Friday 8:48 pm
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>The leader of the most prominent group in the US peddling potentially lethal industrial bleach as a “miracle cure” for coronavirus wrote to Donald Trump at the White House this week.

>In his letter, Mark Grenon told Trump that chlorine dioxide – a powerful bleach used in industrial processes such as textile manufacturing that can have fatal side-effects when drunk – is “a wonderful detox that can kill 99% of the pathogens in the body”. He added that it “can rid the body of Covid-19”.

>A few days after Grenon dispatched his letter, Trump went on national TV at his daily coronavirus briefing at the White House on Thursday and promoted the idea that disinfectant could be used as a treatment for the virus. To the astonishment of medical experts, the US president said that disinfectant “knocks it out in a minute. One minute!”

>Trump did not specify where the idea of using disinfectant as a possible remedy for Covid-19 came from, and the source for his notion remains obscure. But the Guardian has learned that peddlers of chlorine dioxide – industrial bleach – have been making direct approaches to the White House in recent days.

>Grenon styles himself as “archbishop” of Genesis II – a Florida-based outfit that claims to be a church but which in fact is the largest producer and distributor of chlorine dioxide bleach as a “miracle cure” in the US. He brands the chemical as MMS, “miracle mineral solution”, and claims fraudulently that it can cure 99% of all illnesses including cancer, malaria, HIV/Aids as well as autism. Since the start of the pandemic, Genesis II has been marketing MMS as a cure to coronavirus. It advises users, including children, to mix three to six drops of bleach in water and drink it.

https://theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/24/revealed-leader-group-peddling-bleach-cure-lobbied-trump-coronavirus
>> No. 24396 Anonymous
24th April 2020
Friday 9:09 pm
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>>24395
What's the going rate for a presidential tweet, or a presidential press-conference-blithering?
If this was simply him raking it in while in power, I'd be slightly reassured.
>> No. 24397 Anonymous
24th April 2020
Friday 9:29 pm
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>>24391

That's not the same as wondering out loud. If I wonder out loud if the moon is made of cheese I'm not suggesting that you go there and try to make a sandwich out of it. I fear you may be an ESL interloper. Begone.
>> No. 24398 Anonymous
24th April 2020
Friday 9:34 pm
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>>24397

You're the only person trying to defend him with that particular weird angle. Even he's accepted that he suggested it, just he's claiming it was sarcasm.

>I fear you may be an ESL interloper. Begone.
Here's some Reddit gold for you.
>> No. 24399 Anonymous
24th April 2020
Friday 9:35 pm
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>>24397
>If I wonder out loud if the moon is made of cheese I'm not suggesting that you go there and try to make a sandwich out of it.
Words spoken at an audience by the President of the United States in an official briefing in the Brady Room are not "wondering out loud".
>> No. 24400 Anonymous
24th April 2020
Friday 9:40 pm
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>>24398
> You're the only person trying to defend him
I'm not defending anything but the English language you fool.

>>24399
I was specifically replying to a post that used those words, keep your beak out you cunt.

(A good day to you Sir!)
>> No. 24401 Anonymous
24th April 2020
Friday 9:44 pm
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>>24400

If you "wondered" something in a brain-storming session, it would be referred to as your suggestion.
"What should we do?"
"What if we drank bleach?"
is a suggestion to drink bleach.
>> No. 24402 Anonymous
24th April 2020
Friday 9:44 pm
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>>24399
These inparticular certainly weren't prepared before hand.
>> No. 24403 Anonymous
24th April 2020
Friday 9:45 pm
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FRIDAY NIGHT?
TIME FOR A CUNT-OFF AND SPITE!
>> No. 24404 Anonymous
24th April 2020
Friday 9:46 pm
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>>24401
To consider the value of, maybe, but not an outright suggestion to action.
>> No. 24405 Anonymous
24th April 2020
Friday 9:47 pm
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>>24401

You're wrong, lad. A question is never a suggestion unless it's rhetorical.

I don't give a monkey's about Trump and don't care to defend him I just won't stand idly by and let cunts state that "wondering out loud is the same as suggesting".
>> No. 24406 Anonymous
24th April 2020
Friday 9:48 pm
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Why would you drink bleach when you can just put the Sun inside yourself, idiot. Getting blood eagled by Vikings tomorrow so I can really light up my lungs.
>> No. 24407 Anonymous
24th April 2020
Friday 9:49 pm
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>>24405

Why don't we stop arguing about it then?
>> No. 24408 Anonymous
24th April 2020
Friday 9:49 pm
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>>24406

I'm just going to cut my meth with hydrogen peroxide crystals. Fucking little virion cunts won't know what hit them.
>> No. 24409 Anonymous
24th April 2020
Friday 9:53 pm
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>>24407

You may not have noticed but this is an anonymous image board for anonymous people we'll have no namefagging here.

Multiple people can and will reply to your posts. As such, you may find it helpful in future to respond to individual posts and not to the people in your head that you imagine making them.
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