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>> No. 28800 Anonymous
13th November 2020
Friday 11:30 am
28800 Leeds officer dressed as clown during five-year undercover police operation
Millions of pounds of public money was “misspent” on undercover policing operations – which included an officer being trained as a clown, a public inquiry has been told.

>Peter Weatherby QC, who is representing 18 individuals and organisations who have been spied on, played a video of an officer known as EN34, whose undercover name was “Lynn Watson”, on Tuesday.

>In the clip, filmed in Leeds in 2004, she appears in costume and clown make-up, waving a feather duster, as part of the Clandestine Insurgent Rebel Clown Army (Circa) – a street performance campaign group.

>Mr Weatherby said EN34 infiltrated the group, along with a series of other peace and environmental campaigns, over a five-year period during which she “befriended and tricked countless individuals”.

>He also showed a picture of HN118, whose assumed name was “Simon Wellings”, who he said used his time undercover to build an orange military tank out of plywood and cardboard.

>The officer was photographed at an anti-arms trade protest in the tank with the Globalise Resistance group, which he infiltrated from 2002 until he was unmasked in 2004.

https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/news/crime/leeds-officer-dressed-clown-during-five-year-undercover-police-operation-clown-army-3032173
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>> No. 28801 Anonymous
13th November 2020
Friday 11:59 am
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I'm about 60% sure I fingered her in a caravan at Faslane Camp circa 2006. The memory is a bit hazy due to the life-threatening quantities of white cider I was drinking at the time, but I was definitely three fingers deep in an androgynous clown.
>> No. 28802 Anonymous
13th November 2020
Friday 12:06 pm
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>>28801
>three fingers deep in an androgynous clown

If I ever become a ROCK STAR, this will be the name of my first album.
>> No. 28803 Anonymous
13th November 2020
Friday 12:12 pm
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I don't really get the issue - is the problem really that it looks a bit silly to dress as a clown? If that's all that should qualify an undercover investigation, I should start a teletubby themed cocaine cartel. Nobody will ever dare infiltrate us, lest someone points out they dressed a bit silly.

The efficacy of going after peace protesters and environmentalists is more worthy of attention, but - and I say this as someone who questions policing methods at the best of times - if you think they pose a risk then why wouldn't you investigate? It's only a waste of time until you stop doing it and a clown bombs a petrol station, then suddenly everyone's asking where the coppers in makeup were?
>> No. 28804 Anonymous
13th November 2020
Friday 12:40 pm
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>>28803
>if you think they pose a risk then why wouldn't you investigate? It's only a waste of time until you stop doing it and a clown bombs a petrol station, then suddenly everyone's asking where the coppers in makeup were?
The "threat" those groups pose is generally not of actual violence but an economic one. The Clown Army has always been explicitly non-violent but when non-violence threatens the profits of corporations then the police get pressured (or backs-scratched) into investigating them to look for (or incite) excuses to stop them.
>> No. 28805 Anonymous
13th November 2020
Friday 12:43 pm
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>Clandestine Insurgent Rebel Clown Army (Circa)

The world is a strange place sometimes.
>> No. 28806 Anonymous
13th November 2020
Friday 12:44 pm
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>>28803

I've got no problem with the police using undercover agents in a targeted, intelligence-led manner to prevent daft militant woggery and take down serious criminal organisations.

I do have a problem with undercover agents being planted indefinitely in utterly benign organisations like Quaker meetings, CND groups and, in this case, clown troupes. It's clearly not an effective use of police resources, nor is it a proportionate use of deception and subterfuge by the state.

Dozens of undercover officers were used over the course of decades to infiltrate almost every part of the British Left. I can't find a single example of those undercover officers actually preventing a serious crime; there are numerous examples of those officers acting as agents provocateurs and actually putting the public at greater risk.

Undercover policing has had a horrendously corrosive effect on trust among activists and arguably contributed to the downfall of the radical left as we knew it; some might say that this was entirely the point. Friendships, communities and families were torn apart for no good reason.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UK_undercover_policing_relationships_scandal
>> No. 28807 Anonymous
13th November 2020
Friday 12:54 pm
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>>28805

CIRCA were honestly brilliant to have around, because they could instantly defuse a tense situation. When you've got a load of TSG hard nuts in full riot gear squaring up to a bunch of mental Spanish anarchists, it's really hard for either side to keep a straight face when a load of clowns start play-acting a riot. They often used themselves as human shields to keep the peace, because it's impossible to look dignified while kicking the shit out of a clown.
>> No. 28816 Anonymous
13th November 2020
Friday 5:29 pm
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A few years ago at the PRIDE festival there was a convicted child molester walking around as a clown.
>> No. 28817 Anonymous
13th November 2020
Friday 5:36 pm
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>>28816
What does that have to do with anything?
>> No. 28818 Anonymous
13th November 2020
Friday 5:41 pm
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>>28817
>Millions of pounds of public money was “misspent” on undercover policing operations – which included an officer being trained as a clown, a public inquiry has been told.
It doesn't seem as mispent, considering.
>> No. 28819 Anonymous
13th November 2020
Friday 5:55 pm
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>>28818
So an undercover police officer trained to join an activist clown troupe in 2004 in order to ensure that a convicted child molester would wear clown make-up at Pride in 2017?
>> No. 28820 Anonymous
13th November 2020
Friday 6:36 pm
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>>28819
I'm focusing mainly on the implication that infiltrating a clown troupe is money misspent, because i once noticed a sex offender dressed as a clown interacting with children at a recent Pride event.
I'm begining to see the error in my posting and that it's only vaguely related to the subject matter.
>> No. 28821 Anonymous
13th November 2020
Friday 6:49 pm
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Money misspent in this case is entirely dependent on whether you support the objective of infiltrating potentially dissident groups. What's worth remembering, however, is the way the definition of dissident is fluid and based entirely on opposition to the current ruling establishment.

>Undercover policing has had a horrendously corrosive effect on trust among activists and arguably contributed to the downfall of the radical left as we knew it; some might say that this was entirely the point.

Well of course that was the point, why else were they doing it? To make sure they were following health and safety regulations?

I've had this conversation with a few younger, more naive lefties and they just don't get it. If you're a serious lefty in Britain (i.e not just a fair weather Labour voter who reads the Guardian, but an active socialist organiser or demonstrator) you are one of the dissident groups these lot are there to suppress. They're after you and they're watching you every bit as closely as they're watching the Rubber Dinghy Rapids lads.
>> No. 28822 Anonymous
13th November 2020
Friday 6:56 pm
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Is it really misspent if he got training out of it? Think of all the money they're going to save on patrol cars.
>> No. 28824 Anonymous
13th November 2020
Friday 7:08 pm
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Reading all these cases, it has become apparent that law enforcement spends ridiculous sums to infiltrate leftie groups, compared to the bloody far-right. I don't want to get into /boo/ territory,. but this is a concern.
>> No. 28825 Anonymous
13th November 2020
Friday 7:15 pm
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>>28824
It's almost as if the "concerns" of the far-right can be co-opted by the powers that be to further their own interests, whereas left-wing reforms and demands are genuine threat to the status quo and as such are demonised beyond all proportion before being policed into oblivion, but now I'm sounding paranoid.

Hey, whatever happned to XR? Oh...
>> No. 28826 Anonymous
13th November 2020
Friday 7:15 pm
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>>28824

I reckon they do it for a lark; gives them an excuse to take drugs and get laid; hang around enjoying themselves for a few years. You're not going to get much of that infiltrating any actual daft militant wogs.
>> No. 28827 Anonymous
13th November 2020
Friday 7:17 pm
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>>28825
>Hey, whatever happned to XR?
Currently being pilloried by the rags and usual offenders for the disgusting crime of having a veteran place a wreath on the cenotaph on 11/11.
>> No. 28828 Anonymous
13th November 2020
Friday 7:21 pm
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>>28824

Leftie groups need infiltrating and suppressing, because they pose a genuine threat to the status quo if their ideas caught on. Far right and religious daftie groups are the ones they clandestinely fund and nurture, because they are useful stooges as a target of public fear and misdirection.

The goal is to create a narrative of polarised disorder and conflict from which a strong state is the only thing protecting us.
>> No. 28829 Anonymous
13th November 2020
Friday 7:45 pm
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>>28828

This makes sense on paper, but I can't imagine local coppers coming to this sort of conclusion on their own, and equally if every assignment was "number ten wants you to dress as a clown and get fingered by a .gs mod" then something would have leaked by now.
>> No. 28830 Anonymous
13th November 2020
Friday 7:50 pm
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>>28824
>>28828
Why does every batch of extremists always claim they are being unfairly discriminated against?
>> No. 28832 Anonymous
13th November 2020
Friday 8:42 pm
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>>28830
Why does getting bummed make your bait so weak?
>> No. 28833 Anonymous
13th November 2020
Friday 8:59 pm
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>>28829

The pigs are a very old gang, and well know who the hand that feeds is by now. It's not your average plod thinking "Hm, I'll infiltrate an vegan antifa group today", but institutionally, they know the direction they're pointing.
>> No. 28834 Anonymous
13th November 2020
Friday 9:22 pm
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>>28833

The police are quite happy to infiltrate the far-right in their free time.
>> No. 28835 Anonymous
13th November 2020
Friday 9:40 pm
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I assume the argument is that violent groups are usually grown out of non violent groups (like the way alf is the militant wing of peta to anyone in the know even though officially they aren't they just happen to spring spontaneity) so they need to infiltrate the non violent groups to be in a position to join the violent groups when they start which means being a known violent to begin with.

It is all ends justify the means crap, but I see the slip.
>> No. 28838 Anonymous
14th November 2020
Saturday 5:11 am
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>>28830

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZ21d_eSUkE
>> No. 28854 Anonymous
15th November 2020
Sunday 11:50 am
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>>28828

Do you have any evidence far right groups in the UK receive establishment funding?
>> No. 28855 Anonymous
15th November 2020
Sunday 12:19 pm
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>>28854
He's talking bollocks. When you can get your message across by throwing money at professional twats like Are Nige or Laurence Fox and by actually owning media organisations there's no need to give money to a bunch of racist skinheads.

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