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>> No. 91916 Anonymous
15th January 2021
Friday 1:42 pm
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So...

Has there been one single actual advantage of Brexit yet?
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>> No. 92055 Anonymous
24th January 2021
Sunday 3:09 pm
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>>92053

I don't know what it is specifically, but it looks like one of those multi-workstation controller keyboards often seen in control rooms and trading floors. Weytec made a relatively recent example:



I'd actually really find one useful, I have to run five different systems at the same time at work.
>> No. 92056 Anonymous
24th January 2021
Sunday 3:40 pm
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>>92055
If you have the technical aptitude, would be a nice project to build one, or at least the top half of one with a normal keyboard as the bottom half.

Mechanical keyswitches are pretty cheap and readily available now, and its quite easy to design a PCB and get it custom printed in China to mount the switches.
It's possible to use an Arduino to create an input device which will send macros to the PC. You could even recreate those diplays using Arduino but it would be harder to program.
>> No. 92060 Anonymous
25th January 2021
Monday 11:07 am
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>>92056

I have been thinking about it, it would be genuinely useful and I have some arduino and pi experience, and have built mech boards.

For a long time I wanted to do a "cyberdeck" build for no real practical reason, this is just the adult, justified version of that.
>> No. 92061 Anonymous
25th January 2021
Monday 2:58 pm
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>>92055
Reminds me of the Talking Whizz Kid I had as a lad. INSERT CARD, INSERT CARD
>> No. 92062 Anonymous
26th January 2021
Tuesday 8:33 am
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>>92049

Nevermind, we don't need them anyway.

All the recent hassle has prompted the decision by true workhorse of the British economy, Games Workshop, to bring all their manufacturing and printing back home from China to the UK. That'll be an instant ten percent boost to the GDP.

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>> No. 92021 Anonymous
23rd January 2021
Saturday 11:19 am
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Is tackling inequality a pipe dream?

If you're financially secure enough to have capital to invest then you can sit back and watch your wealth increase which, over time, makes the gulf between the haves and the have-nots grow. Either you've got the money to be able to do this or you don't.

Is focusing on inequality a bit of a red herring? It seems like it would be more constructive to instead focus on raising the minimum standard of living for everyone, to ensure they can have a comfortable and secure life.
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>> No. 92044 Anonymous
23rd January 2021
Saturday 8:28 pm
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>>92042
In the case of technology shares the increase in value is meant to be due to recognition of goods and services rendered in the past, present, or future and ultimately this will be the result of the capture of surplus value in the system of capitalism. (i.e. £100 of work has been done or will be done).

When some shares go up other related ones often go down. Look at comparative charts for Intel and AMD to see examples of this. The business ecosystem is complex and although causality is always there, it's not always apparent or easy to see.

In the specific case of the rise in share prices recently, QE has increased the volume of fiat in circulation and a lot of this has gone into buying shares. Ultimately this will have to be repaid by the taxpayer in the form of higher taxes or reduced public services.

The current bubble could be argued as a type of inflation given that everything is getting more expensive. When the bubble bursts a great number of people will find themselves worse off to the same economic magnitude as winners have won (2008 serves as a pretty striking case study in this respect).

In the case of the GME squeeze it's more direct and obviois, as much money as the winners have won last week the losers have lost.
>> No. 92045 Anonymous
23rd January 2021
Saturday 10:04 pm
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It's not a pipe dream, but I think we're going all the wrong ways about it. Or at least, the people who often talk about it have their priorities in all the wrong places.

If I were the king of England and its realms, I would focus on cracking down on parasitic bullshit like interest only mortgages and buy-to-let rent seeking, nationalise the bits of public utilities and infrastructure that it makes sense to do so, and probably create some kind of public work programme. My focus would be on reducing what I can only see as unfair financial pressures those on the lowest rungs of society have to bear, and eliminate the poverty trap.

At the end of the day I think that would probably do a lot more toward levelling the playing field than just keeping on raising the minimum wage or handing out free money (though frankly, if we got the economy sorted out I would still eventually implement some kind of UBI.) Ultimately, if you make it so the peasants have more money, the capital-owning class will just keep raising their rents, prices and tarriffs to gobble it all back up again. What we should do is restrict such opportunism in order that the poor have a lower cost of living, and therefore more disposable income with which they may be encouraged to invest in savings, pensions, other financially sensible options they are currently all too often just unable to do.

I will say, I absolutely hate it when people come out with that line about how you can always make savings or go on r/personalfinance and if you don't you're just stupid and it's your own fault for buying a big telly. I have only ever heard that rhetoric in real life from people who have grown up comfortably wealthy. I'm pretty well off by this stage in my life, but for many years I was dirt poor, and in no small part I attribute my current financial wellbeing to the plain, simple tight-arsed thrift I was forced to learn when I had to support myself on £500 per month. Poor people are often stupid, but more often than that they are trapped in a situation where there are very few winning moves.
>> No. 92046 Anonymous
23rd January 2021
Saturday 10:20 pm
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>>92045

I'd vote for you, but only if you can summarize that passage as a three word slogan and give me a scapegoat to hate on.
>> No. 92047 Anonymous
23rd January 2021
Saturday 10:32 pm
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You don't vote for a King.

But if you must, it will be "Big, Hard, Britain" and the scapegoat will be pensioners who emigrated defected to the south of Europe.
>> No. 92048 Anonymous
24th January 2021
Sunday 10:34 am
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>It seems like it would be more constructive to instead focus on raising the minimum standard of living for everyone, to ensure they can have a comfortable and secure life.
The problem is that the political economy for this will never exist. To have people care about the standards at the bottom, you need a relatively equal society. Otherwise the political power of those at the bottom approaches zero.

Also, we live in a society where people can always see how other people live. You can't neatly sequester the rich off in their own little bubble where their immense wealth isn't visible to the poor, so the poor are always going to feel like their lives are shit in comparison to what they see elsewhere. Deep down we're monkeys, and monkeys care about relative status, they're going to feel like they're falling behind if their lives get better by 5% a year while everyone (perceived, not actual) else's get better by 25% a year. Let alone the world we actually live in, where their lives have tended to get 5% worse a year while the other side are going to the moon.

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>> No. 91877 Anonymous
27th December 2020
Sunday 6:56 pm
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>LIZ TRUSS: Equality should be for everyone - not just for the woke warrior's favoured few

>Growing up in Leeds in the 1980s and 1990s, I was struck by the lip service paid by politicians to equality while, in the real world, children from disadvantaged backgrounds were being let down. At my comprehensive school, we had lessons in racism and sexism, but there was too little effort ensuring everyone had a grasp of maths and English.

>Leeds City Council – run by Labour and where Jeremy Corbyn’s former campaign chief Jon Trickett cut his teeth as leader – opposed the introduction of school league tables and anything else that might help children from poor families do better in class. Leeds was not alone. Many other councils considered high standards in schools to be secondary to their political projects – or even worse, they treated such efforts to raise children’s horizons as elitist. And since then, I have witnessed the spread of misguided, wrong-headed, and ultimately destructive ideas, which, sadly, have become steadily more prevalent in many aspects of British life.

>Take, for example, Labour-run Birmingham City Council. It recently announced plans to give six new streets names such as Diversity Grove, Respect Way and Humanity Close. Do councillors really think that names alone pave the way to real change? Too many people have jumped on this woke bandwagon and lost sight of what most people want: a life in which they can live happily in a secure home, work in a good job and send their children to a decent school. Rather than engage with these priorities, the Left has been swept up by a warped ideology and all its bizarre obsessions. As a result, there is a misguided emphasis on policing our vocabulary so as not to offend, rather than policing our streets. And the woke brigade is angrier about the ‘sins’ of historical figures rather than trying to make a better life for those who live today.

>Their answers are to introduce quotas, diversity agendas and so-called ‘unconscious bias’ training. But these crudely treat people as part of groups rather than as individuals. What’s more, those who do not fit in their cultural box-ticking – for example the white working class – are, in effect, written off. And despite their stated intention to improve society, I am convinced that these dehumanising, disempowering and dysfunctional ideas do nothing in practice to make life fairer. Those behind this pernicious woke culture see everything in terms of societal power structures. To these zombies, truth and morality are merely relative.

>The great irony is that with this moral blindness, the Left has allowed insidious practices to threaten equality. For example, it has failed to defend the single-sex spaces that were won by the hard work of women over generations. It has allowed the spread of antisemitism. It has allowed the appalling grooming of young girls for sex by elder men in towns such as Rotherham. It is vital that things change. The way forward is to ignore the Left’s empty gesture politics and give people more control over their lives. Compared with very many other countries, we can be proud about how far society has developed. Britain is more colour-blind and less sexist than ever. That said, we cannot be complacent. Families, especially those living beyond the South East, face serious hardships. Equality should be for everyone, not just for those groups that the Left deems fashionably worthy of such attention.

>What we don’t need is the type of patronising feminism symbolised by Harriet Harman’s notorious ‘pink bus’, which was driven around the country during the 2015 General Election campaign. It often repelled the female voters it was meant to woo. Let us not listen to a party that claims to champion women but which has never elected a female leader. The reason the Tory Party has had two female leaders and now has the largest ever number of people from ethnic-minority backgrounds in Cabinet is not because of positive discrimination, but down to positive empowerment.

>This Government was elected to level up the country – to fix the scourge of geographic inequality and ensure equal opportunity for all. This will not be achieved through identity politics, virtue-signalling or any other kind of right-on posturing. It can only be done if politicians are in touch with the real issues people face in their daily lives. This is a task already under way in government. The Treasury has made it crystal clear that it will assess all future big spending projects in order to guarantee that Ministers spread investment across Britain as part of our policy to level up the whole country.
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>> No. 92019 Anonymous
22nd January 2021
Friday 9:17 am
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>>91879 here again.

They're having a field day with this:

>The three wise monkeys have been a cultural trope throughout the world for centuries as a symbol of seeing, hearing and speaking no evil. Academics at the University of York have decided that they are, in fact, an oppressive racial stereotype, and pulled an image of the animals from their website to avoid offence.

>Organisers of a forthcoming art history conference apologised for using the picture in their call for submissions. “Upon reflection, we strongly believe that our first poster is not appropriate as its iconology promulgates a longstanding visual legacy of oppression and exploits racist stereotypes,” they wrote. “We bring this to your attention, so that we may be held accountable for our actions and, in our privileges, do and be better.”

>A spokeswoman for the University of York said that the organisers of the online conference, entitled Sensorial Fixations: Orality, Aurality, Opticality and Hapticity, were worried about a possible insult to ethnic minorities.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/york-university-academics-see-the-evil-of-racism-in-three-wise-monkeys-5khx0jwc7
>> No. 92020 Anonymous
22nd January 2021
Friday 9:25 am
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>The woke left will naturally see this and double down ... The materialist left will remain a fringe minority

I think you should read this and see why your 'woke'/'materialist' dichotomy is bullshit.

https://redfightback.org/read/transphobia_in_the_left
>> No. 92057 Anonymous
24th January 2021
Sunday 5:30 pm
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>>92020

Otherlad here. I sympathise with the author and find it disappointing that they experienced that at a political gathering describing themselves as the "left". I also broadly agree with their historical point about miners and LGBT people, and would of course like to see more of that kind of solidarity.

I do also think, though, that the hostility and ridicule they experienced is precisely the result of the divide-and-rule politics at play that >>92020 describes. I think the left has the far more difficult task in bringing together and adequately representing a far more diverse range of interests than the right, which are generally more organised consolidations of power -- not perfect, but surely from a narrower range of backgrounds and interests.

By necessity, it's also the working class that should make up the bulk of the movement in terms of sheer numbers. There's a fine balance between extending an olive branch to people who have already been deliberately conditioned to casual homophobia/transphobia/racism and accepting any level of prejudice against minorities.

Maybe the historical example is apt, as they clearly found a way to get past typical socially conservative rhetoric and see it as a matter of basic human rights, in the same way that LGBT people fully threw themselves behind the concrete material issues that plague the majority of the British population.

As a sidenote: I have been guilty of feeling frustrated with an ineffectual left, and it seems like this sentiment has been with us at least since the 1980s when Alexei Sayle was taking the piss out of people who "knit their own yoghurt". It's tempting to think that trans and LGBT groups are diverting people from material concerns in this way, but I've been kept grounded by actually having LGBT friends from both working and middle class backgrounds. Generally, they don't dismiss my concerns as long as I articulate them well and I don't dismiss theirs.

I also believe that our current economic system is one that will award performative and shallowleftism (which I think is what >>92020 really means by "wokeness") and punish any genuine solidarity that threatens to bring in larger crowds. It's why today we can read the Guardian but not the Daily Herald.

Similar dynamics occur around racial politics, too, by the way; American figures like MLK are remembered for their flowery speeches on issues which don't offend corporate or free market sensibilities, but they're not remembered for their solidarity with striking union workers.
>> No. 92058 Anonymous
24th January 2021
Sunday 5:31 pm
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>>92057

Brian won't let me delete the post, but the two instances of >>92020 in there were actually meant to be >>91893.
>> No. 92059 Anonymous
24th January 2021
Sunday 10:57 pm
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>>92057

Couldn't agree more.

The trouble is it's rare to see examples of real solidarity from those kinds of performative leftists, and it's hard not to come to the conclusion that they're either simple grifters making a bit of money and attention while it's fashionable, or they are intentional wreckers knowingly distorting the shape of leftist discourse.

Either way, it's pretty much inarguable, after everything that's happened over the last for or five years, that all of it is a massive own-goal for lefties and leaves us wide open for the right to score easy, cheap points by pointing at whatever the latest Twitter fad is and going "Look what those mad lefty snowflakes are up to now eh?! They're after female space marines now! Where will it end!"

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>> No. 90480 Anonymous
6th September 2020
Sunday 1:59 am
90480 This man is going to be the next President and it's going to be awesome
TRUMP 2020
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>> No. 91911 Anonymous
8th January 2021
Friday 12:39 am
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He has just posted a video, conceding.
>> No. 91912 Anonymous
8th January 2021
Friday 12:45 am
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>>91911
The mentalists are claiming it is a deepfake, and that the deep state has won.
>> No. 91913 Anonymous
8th January 2021
Friday 12:48 am
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>>91911>>91912
His lawyer, not the mad mayor one, a proper one, just told him he could get nicked if he leans in on an attempted coup.
>> No. 91914 Anonymous
8th January 2021
Friday 10:13 am
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Alright, now it's over can we get a /yank/ meta-board alongside /*/ and /sfw/ so I never have to think about Seppos again.
>> No. 91915 Anonymous
8th January 2021
Friday 2:29 pm
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>>91914

I think it's called /zoo/, if that still exists. I'd vote that all Yank business go in there anyhow.

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>> No. 84895 Anonymous
9th February 2019
Saturday 8:13 am
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Jimmy Saville: My new Brexit party stands ready to defend democracy

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/02/08/new-brexit-party-stands-ready-defend-democracy/

'Thousands of Tory party members' to defect to Jimmy Saville's Brexit Party as it gets official approval

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/02/08/thousands-tory-party-members-defect-Jimmy-Savilles-brexit-party/

Rebel Labour MPs set to quit party and form centre group

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/feb/02/rebel-labour-mps-set-to-quit-party-and-form-centre-group
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>> No. 91875 Anonymous
25th December 2020
Friday 9:07 pm
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>>91874
Doubt you can even fly what with corona restrictions. Shhame - Middle east would be nice this time of year.
>> No. 91876 Anonymous
26th December 2020
Saturday 11:35 am
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>>91875
Just had a mate piss off to Dubai for a couple weeks. Said no one seemed to give a shit at the airports.

Another mate is fucking off to Mexico tomorrow.
>> No. 91907 Anonymous
4th January 2021
Monday 7:41 pm
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I've been thinking a lot about Sphere Starmer, so I present Mitt Rombus.
>> No. 91908 Anonymous
4th January 2021
Monday 7:43 pm
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>>91907
Meant to go in the American thread. Fuck's sake.
>> No. 91909 Anonymous
4th January 2021
Monday 7:57 pm
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>>91876

Don't blame them, there are some bargains about at the momeny. Got a cracking deal on New York for the end of the year.

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>> No. 91885 Anonymous
28th December 2020
Monday 12:18 am
91885 THIS MAN HAS SAVED THE UK AND 2021 IS GOING TO BE AWESOME
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55460948
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>> No. 91897 Anonymous
28th December 2020
Monday 11:49 am
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>>91889

I can't wait until Chuka Umunna joins!
>> No. 91900 Anonymous
28th December 2020
Monday 1:20 pm
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>>91889
It's almost like he's creating more problems than he's ever solved.
>> No. 91903 Anonymous
29th December 2020
Tuesday 12:34 pm
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>>91885
>THIS MAN HAS SAVED THE UK
From...?
>> No. 91904 Anonymous
29th December 2020
Tuesday 1:22 pm
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>>91903

Himself, by fucking off to America to lick Trump's arse.
>> No. 91905 Anonymous
29th December 2020
Tuesday 9:22 pm
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>>91885

"Brexit impact on food prices 'very modest'" is a fun way of saying that food is going to become more expensive due to Brexit.

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>> No. 91398 Anonymous
11th November 2020
Wednesday 4:31 pm
91398 In the not too distant future
This man is going to become the Chairman of Hong Kong, and it's going to be fucking awesome.
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>> No. 91810 Anonymous
28th November 2020
Saturday 5:27 pm
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>>91805
>real issues around a lack of trade union culture

Like Amazon hiring Intelligence to surveil their staff and ensure the workplace is not conducive to Union formation?
https://www.vice.com/en/article/5dp3yn/amazon-leaked-reports-expose-spying-warehouse-workers-labor-union-environmental-groups-social-movements

Or Amazon using Lib Woke talking points as a weapon to ensure the workforce doesn't Unionize?
https://observer.com/2020/04/amazon-whole-foods-anti-union-technology-heat-map/

No you're right. These CEOs are saints, they are not to be expected to adhere to any kind of Social Contract, nor should they be yoked with any additional responsibilities for their staff with all the power and privilege they wield.
>> No. 91811 Anonymous
28th November 2020
Saturday 5:29 pm
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>The situation might be worse in the US
In the US they're subject to mandatory 100% exit searches, and aren't paid for the time this takes, which can be upwards of an hour on a heavy shift.
>> No. 91812 Anonymous
28th November 2020
Saturday 11:51 pm
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>>91799

I don't know how hard you'd work for under a tenner an hour, but my old boss had a phrase I've always rather liked.

"If you're paying peanuts, you'll only get monkeys."
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29th November 2020
Sunday 11:21 am
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>>91812

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/29/a-year-after-wuhan-alarm-china-seeks-to-change-covid-origin-story

>Nearly a year after doctors identified the first cases of a worrying new disease in the Chinese city of Wuhan, the country appears to be stepping up a campaign to question the origins of the global Covid-19 pandemic.

>State media has been reporting intensively on coronavirus discovered on packaging of frozen food imports, not considered a significant vector of infection elsewhere, and research into possible cases of the disease found outside China’s borders before December 2019.

>The official People’s Daily newspaper claimed in a Facebook post last week that “all available evidence suggests that the coronavirus did not start in central China’s Wuhan”.
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>> No. 90075 Anonymous
26th July 2020
Sunday 5:10 pm
90075 in 100 days time
This man is going to become the President of the United States, and it's going to be fucking awesome.
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>> No. 91868 Anonymous
10th December 2020
Thursday 10:08 pm
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Corbynites aren't completely lacking in pragmatism (they are after all the ones in the Labour party rather than the ones hawking socialist worker at every protest going.) Their big problems are being mediocre at media management and occasionally preferring a new and gimmicky policy idea over a fine one from the 1970s that got orphaned in past Labour factional struggles, rather than fundamentally believing in some kind of utopian nonsense.

I'm not getting at you specifically, it's just that there's an idea floating out there that Corbynites becoming more pragmatic would mean "selling out" (to be glib about it) and accepting that they can't except the government to achieve very much, which is an awful way of looking at it. The Corbynite who decides to try and slip free broadband into the back of Starmer's 2024 manifesto in ambiguous language and takes a few public speaking lessons will be ten times the pragmatist politician that the mumbly former-Corbynite who moved dramatically to the right on policy in the hopes of nabbing a cabinet job will.

Full disclosure: I didn't care for the 2019 Labour manifesto, nor did I vote Labour. I just couldn't be bothered trying to pick a historical analogy for the progressive lowering of political expectations, which is what I really dislike. I could make similar points for the right, though (especially in the US) they tend to be more successful at incrementally working towards a long-term goal where the left usually just abandon hope after a few losses.
>> No. 91869 Anonymous
10th December 2020
Thursday 11:20 pm
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>>91868

All the Labour infighting makes me sad, but I have recently realised that this has been standard for as long as there has been a Left. Look at the schism between Marx and Proudhon.

Marx was a wealthy lad that adopted the cause of the working class, whereas Proudhon was a pleb who adopted the rhetoric of bourgeois intellectuals.

The people on the left who best understand the correct long term strategy are the least socially connected to the masses, whereas the people who are most apt at rallying the populace are not generally so prone to this kind of holistic thinking or long term strategy.

IMO University educated middle class Labour idealists would do better to be campaigning in Tory heartlands instead of alienating Northerners, but I am also a cynic and everything is terrible.
>> No. 91870 Anonymous
11th December 2020
Friday 4:43 pm
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He also had literally everyone else in the paddy fields though. Howver, if Britain goes that way we'd easily be able to replicate his army of teenage boys on drugs.
>> No. 91871 Anonymous
11th December 2020
Friday 6:53 pm
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>>91869

There is a lot of "well fuck this I'm taking my ball and going home" on the left, in general, to be very vague and abstract about it all. That's why there are so many shit little splinter parties that will only ever see a couple of thousand votes.

Too many of these people fail to realise the merits of the "big umbrella" or whatever the fuck they call it of the Labour Party. Fair enough it might be run by people you'd spit on as little more than common garden market liberals, but you're not going to pull them left from the outside of the party.

Funnily enough most of these people were pro-EU and always made the argument "but we're better off trying to change it from within!" when challenged by the fundamentally neo-liberal nature of that institution; but when it comes to the Labour party they're all about cancelling their membership and fucking off to vote Socialist Workers Democratic Worker's Democratic Socialist Party Party because Keith is a big evil racist.
>> No. 91872 Anonymous
11th December 2020
Friday 7:02 pm
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I know people came up with names like Dear Leader for Corbyn, but calling Starmer Keith/Kieth is a really bollocks moniker and I'm kind of surprised it's taken off.

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>> No. 90436 Anonymous
25th August 2020
Tuesday 2:30 pm
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Rishi Sunak is going to be Prime Minister next year and it's going to be fucking awesome.
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>> No. 91803 Anonymous
28th November 2020
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I thought 40k was the cutoff for snobbery? So long as it's a figure greater than your age of course.
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28th November 2020
Saturday 4:47 pm
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I vaguely remember there being a study a few years back that stated that £50k family income was the middle class cut-off point. Fuck knows though, really.
>> No. 91838 Anonymous
7th December 2020
Monday 9:03 pm
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I would love to read a transcript of the trade deal talks that have been happening this week. I bet they're utterly moronic.
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9th December 2020
Wednesday 10:02 pm
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Bodger offers the Eu a Box of Sherbert Dib Dabs in exchange for ALL THE FISH.
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9th December 2020
Wednesday 10:08 pm
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I'm hoping for a 'dead parrot sketch' but it's Boris going to Brussels to argue with Ursula von der Leyen, but instead of a dead parrot it's an 'oven ready deal'

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>> No. 84456 Anonymous
23rd September 2018
Sunday 8:38 pm
84456 Ban anonymous accounts, Angela Rayner tells social media firms
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/sep/23/ban-anonymous-accounts-angela-rayner-tells-social-media-firms

>The shadow education secretary, speaking at a Labour party conference event, said social media firms should take greater responsibility for their users and noted in particular that Facebook seemed to have indicated that politicians should accept a higher level of abuse.

>Rayner, at a fringe event organised by the Guardian, conceded that insisting on real names wouldn’t stop abuse, but “it would certainly help a little bit. I think they should do more – they do have a responsibility for online.”

I... kind of like Angela Rayner, but this is a truly awful idea that seems to have had absolutely no thought put into its implementation or wider affects on freedom of expression. Technically almost every single account commenting on The Guardian is an "anonymous" social media account because why would you use a real name for such a thing.

I really hope this doesn't gain any kind of traction.
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>> No. 91836 Anonymous
7th December 2020
Monday 1:37 am
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Fortunately I think even the average person who barely uses the internet is canny enough to know how bollocks this is. Even your dad who can barely work a mouse hears that idea, and the first thought to go through his head is "... So people will know I'm looking at porn?"

It'll never happen, but what we have to ask is why Labour is full of these nanny state arseholes. It's this kind of nonsense that had me voting LibDem when I was 21 and didn't know anything about politics. Actually I know why it is and I'm not afraid to say it: We let mums vote. Not women, mums. Women who have given birth.

Ban mums from voting. They are objectively unfit to make rational decisions.
>> No. 91837 Anonymous
7th December 2020
Monday 5:10 am
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>>91836

>what we have to ask is why Labour is full of these nanny state arseholes

Why don't you trust The Party? Are you some kind of counter-revolutionary?


>> No. 91841 Anonymous
7th December 2020
Monday 10:00 pm
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Do we have a right to keep secrets?
>> No. 91842 Anonymous
7th December 2020
Monday 10:08 pm
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>>91841
No, now spill.
>> No. 91843 Anonymous
7th December 2020
Monday 10:51 pm
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Any of you involved in any illegal activity? 'Cause I could sure go for some!

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>> No. 51753 Anonymous
11th November 2013
Monday 11:24 pm
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Switzerland will hold a vote on whether to introduce a basic income for all adults, in a further sign of growing public activism over pay inequality since the financial crisis. A grassroots committee is calling for all adults in Switzerland to receive an unconditional income of 2,500 Swiss francs ($2,800) per month from the state, with the aim of providing a financial safety net for the population.

Under Swiss law, citizens can organize popular initiatives that allow the channeling of public anger into direct political action. The country usually holds several referenda a year. In March, Swiss voters backed some of the world's strictest controls on executive pay, forcing public companies to give shareholders a binding vote on compensation. A separate proposal to limit monthly executive pay to no more than what the company's lowest-paid staff earn in a year, the so-called 1:12 initiative, faces a popular vote on November 24.


http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/10/04/us-swiss-pay-idUSBRE9930O620131004

http://www.businessinsider.com/behind-the-swiss-unconditional-income-iniative-2013-10

I'm not entirely sure what to make of these. I reckong that if they tried the 1:12 thing over here then the lowest paid members of staff in some large organisations would end up being made redundant and replaced with contractors.
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>> No. 91824 Anonymous
1st December 2020
Tuesday 1:48 pm
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>>91822

The long-term benefits of treating your employees kindly are beyond argument.

A friend just told me that his boss practically sees every three-minute chat between employees in the tea kitchen as a misuse of work time, and is completely ignorant of the fact that it can boost employee morale and that those missing three minutes will be made up many times over by increased productivity.

I can see a four-day week boosting productivity in certain parts of the economy, but it always depends on what industry you are talking about. Companies that are more manufacturing centered aren't just going to be able to shut off all their machines Thursday evening because the people operating them get to go home for the weekend. There will be no increase in productivity there, because unlike the "human production factor", machines don't usually need recuperation time after which higher numbers of product X can be churned out. On the days that a machine is standing still, it typically doesn't cover its cost, and that should neutralise the increased productivity that you get from giving employees operating those machines more downtime.

But a company that chiefly produces software like Microsoft and doesn't rely on machinery as such beyond a few PCs that people write their code on can really see increased productivity on the whole from a shortened work week.
>> No. 91825 Anonymous
1st December 2020
Tuesday 2:07 pm
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>Companies that are more manufacturing centered aren't just going to be able to shut off all their machines Thursday evening because the people operating them get to go home for the weekend. There will be no increase in productivity there, because unlike the "human production factor", machines don't usually need recuperation time after which higher numbers of product X can be churned out. On the days that a machine is standing still, it typically doesn't cover its cost, and that should neutralise the increased productivity that you get from giving employees operating those machines more downtime.

Unilever have said that it will be staggered so that there won't be a day they have to shut everything down.
>> No. 91826 Anonymous
1st December 2020
Tuesday 2:18 pm
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I worked in manufacturing and it was a four-day week with staggered shifts, as negotiated by the very strong union presence in the plant.
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1st December 2020
Tuesday 3:19 pm
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I don't work in manufacturing, but somewhere that does require 24 hour coverage, but still does a four day week - we just stagger people and shifts, it's not much of an issue. It also means nobody has to work permanent nights, or nights at all really - admittedly 1800-0100 is not the greatest shift in the world, but it's far better than the old industry standard way of doing five 12 hour shifts then four off.
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1st December 2020
Tuesday 5:39 pm
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>>91824

I've always thought part of the problem is simply old fashioned management or whoever, sometimes the workers themselves, who can't get their head out of the idea that work happens 9-5, Monday to Friday, and that's that. This demonstrates it quite nicely, otherlad made some good points but then just entirely failed to consider the idea that you might not just have every cunt in the factory on the same shift.

I'm working 4/7 shifts at the minute, we don't need quite 24 hour coverage but we cover 8am to 10pm, and if anything needs attention in between those hours someone is on call. But the transition to this working arrangement took years of battling, but in favour of and against it by the unions and the bosses and the curmudgeonley old workers who didn't want to have to work Saturdays, and so on. These people who are all perfectly happy with McDonalds being open 24 hours but as far as they're concerned, nobody real works outside the typical 9-5.

It's always pissed me off because I'm a lot happier doing late shifts, it just suits my body clock better, I'd start at 2 and finish at 12 ideally. But even now that we're on the extended hours, I can't work my preferred hours as much as I like, because the other lot insist they get their fair share of the enhanced evening pay. These are the same people who spent over five years fighting tooth and nail not to have to do it at all, and I would have happily covered that shift from now until retirement so they didn't have to- But that'd be unfair because I'd get more money.

Cunts.

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>> No. 90725 Anonymous
6th October 2020
Tuesday 5:49 pm
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>Mr Johnson also channeled the spirit of Thatcher's 1980s revolution by pledging to save the dream of home ownership for a new generation, with the government underwriting 95 per cent mortgages for around two million first-time buyers.

>The government has yet to give details, but it seems some of the 'stress test' rules imposed on banks after the 2008 financial crisis could be relaxed to facilitate long-term fixed rate mortgages at 95 per cent of a property's value. The government could instead accept some of the risk through a guarantee scheme - although this would leave the taxpayer on the hook for potentially huge sums.

https://www.If I post a link to this website again I will be banned..co.uk/news/article-8810043/Boris-Johnson-sets-vision-post-Covid-Britain.html

Let's overheat the housing market further by softening the measures brought in as a result of the financial crisis. What could possibly go wrong?
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>> No. 91745 Anonymous
24th November 2020
Tuesday 2:52 pm
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Now you can get tranny action on the web: http://websdr.ewi.utwente.nl:8901/
>> No. 91746 Anonymous
24th November 2020
Tuesday 4:12 pm
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>Cutting down those trees is carbon-negative, because they're being replaced with a far greater number of faster-growing trees that sequester more carbon. Even if we weren't building a big electrically-powered railway that will prevent millions of tonnes of CO2 emissions, cutting down those trees and replacing them is good for the climate.
Are you lying or just thick? Those trees won't sequester anything like that much carbon in time, particularly if they just die and get replaced every year because that's cheaper than watering -
https://www.independent.co.uk/environment/hs2-trees-dead-drought-water-woodland-environment-a8925501.html
although at the time of writing they haven't actually even been replaced. Not to mention the equal threat of biodiversity loss which just planting a load of saplings can't replace.
Nothing else in your post warrants a response.
>> No. 91747 Anonymous
24th November 2020
Tuesday 4:36 pm
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“The summer of 2018 was the hottest on record in England, with an average of just 35.4mm of rain falling in June, half the usual amount.

“We estimate it would have cost around £2m to water the trees during the drought, so replacing these plants is a much more cost-effective solution, as well as a more ethical use of resources during unprecedented conditions at the height of summer.”


Jog on m8.
>> No. 91748 Anonymous
24th November 2020
Tuesday 6:48 pm
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Biodiversity? In England? Didn't the sheep-farmers kill everything already? England is just a massive park.
>> No. 91749 Anonymous
24th November 2020
Tuesday 6:50 pm
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Weird, almost as though what they're doing doesn't work.

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>> No. 86935 Anonymous
29th October 2019
Tuesday 8:41 pm
86935 UK election 2019
This man is not going to be the next Prime Minister of the UK, and it's going to be fucking awesome.
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>> No. 91599 Anonymous
18th November 2020
Wednesday 1:50 am
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>>91584

Sounds like everyone's happy really. Centrists get to play to their crowd, lefties get to play to theirs, everyone thinks their side won in some way.

It's like WWE really isn't it, they're all mates behind the scenes.
>> No. 91609 Anonymous
18th November 2020
Wednesday 12:09 pm
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So what's going to happen with this Croydon council then? Surely the Govt wont bail them out, I mean it's not like they're a bank or anything.
>> No. 91610 Anonymous
18th November 2020
Wednesday 12:27 pm
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>>91609
Here you go, lad. >>/news/28775
>> No. 91611 Anonymous
18th November 2020
Wednesday 12:50 pm
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>>91599
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/nov/18/jeremy-corbyn-refused-labour-whip-despite-having-suspension-lifted
Only as a Labour member apparently, Starmer's not giving him the whip back.
>> No. 91622 Anonymous
19th November 2020
Thursday 12:03 am
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>>91611
If the argument for this was "we expect more of MPs" I could understand, but it's not. This just seems like the most akward fudge possible that looks bad to everyone. Hang on! It's Starmer's Brexit Ref 2.0 all over again! Christ almighty.

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>> No. 91458 Anonymous
13th November 2020
Friday 5:44 pm
91458 In 169 days time
this man is going to be the President of the Republic of England and it's going to be fucking marvellous.
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>> No. 91533 Anonymous
15th November 2020
Sunday 9:05 pm
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I keep seeing people say this was staged because nobody actually finishes their last day of work holding a big full of shit from their desk, and plus number 10 has a back entrance for discreet comings and goings. And Cummings going, as well, I dare say.

I don't know why anyone would put on this but of theatre. What's the point?
>> No. 91534 Anonymous
15th November 2020
Sunday 9:07 pm
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>>91533
My theory is that it is vanity - Cummings likes being the centre of attention.
>> No. 91537 Anonymous
15th November 2020
Sunday 9:36 pm
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>Cumming's the name, going's the game

>>91533
What I'd like to know is what does he have in such a large box.
>> No. 91540 Anonymous
15th November 2020
Sunday 10:09 pm
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>>91537
I don't think it's his dignity in there.
>> No. 91543 Anonymous
15th November 2020
Sunday 10:31 pm
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A pig's head.

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