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|>>|| No. 67793
>BERLIN — German police has described a series of sexual assaults against women in Cologne on New Year's Eve as "a completely new dimension of crime."
>Officers received numerous complaints from women who said they had been assaulted around Cologne's main train station next to the western German city's famous cathedral on the night from Thursday to Friday. Cologne police chief Wolfgang Albers says witnesses described the assaults as coming from a group of up to 1,000 men whose appearance indicated they were of "Arab or North African origin."
>Some 60 criminal complaints have so far been filed, including one allegation of rape. German news agency dpa quoted Albers telling reporters on Monday that it was "an intolerable situation that such crimes are committed in the middle of the city."
Will we ever get our continent back?
|>>|| No. 67794
What's it got to do with us? This sounds suspiciously like retarded American 'white nationalism'. There's no such thing as 'European' mate, it has nothing to do with us.
|>>|| No. 67795
eh? The UK will be majority non-white in your lifetime. Already today 30% of all schoolchildren are non-white. Islam is the fastest growing religion in Europe and the UK, and with Turkey's accession to the EU inevitable there will only be more mass migration from Muslim countries to come. This has everything to do with us. Arabs, Turks, Berbers are not European. They don't share the same heritage, or Christian culture as you. They don't have the same respect for the rule of law or institutions of the countries they end up in as the native inhabitants. Please fuck off with your Labour-induced delusions about the wonders of diversity.
(A good day to you Sir!)
|>>|| No. 67800
They all had perfectly good homes to live in before the likes of you voted in war mongering cunts, so no.
It's your own fault.
|>>|| No. 67801
>Will we ever get our continent back?
Where's it gone? Wait do we not have it right now? You guys are funny.
|>>|| No. 67802
>witnesses described the assaults as coming from a group of up to 1,000 men
Am I the only person who finds this incredibly bizarre? How can 1000 people simultaneously participate in an assault?
>it has nothing to do with us.
Did you fail History at school lad? British culture is heavily influenced by German culture. Like it or not, we are intertwined with our Kraut (and other) neighbours, so you can fuck off with your little Englander attitude.
|>>|| No. 67803
>Am I the only person who finds this incredibly bizarre? How can 1000 people simultaneously participate in an assault?
It's incredible isn't it, if it wasn't a repeatable newspaper I would assume the story was the fevered dreams of a racist.
|>>|| No. 67804
Our continent? When did you and I come to acquire one of those? Did my nan own more property than I was led to believe?
|>>|| No. 67807
> one allegation of rape
The Breitbart article has a different number.
>So far, police have identified 80 victims of the gangs, 35 of which were subjected to sex attacks.
I wonder which one is nearer to the truth?
|>>|| No. 67808
> one allegation of rape
>35 of which were subjected to sex attacks.
Rape is not synonymous with sex attack, no matter what your degree in gender studies will tell you.
|>>|| No. 67809
Yes, the fact that we have Christmas trees is totally relevant to Germany making itself into a cultural and demographic martyr.
I don't care, if they want to destroy their country that's their prerogative, I'm not going to be fighting for some artificial 'European' identity or whatever nonsense they think of next.
|>>|| No. 67811
Why did this guy get banned? He's on /pol/, and as far as I can tell he didn't break any rules. Looks like a mod has just banned him for having an objectionable opinion that contradicts the left leaning liberal consensus but is probably more representative of mainstream thinking. Reputable polling firms find that most people in this country are very concerned about immigration. Banning anyone who echoes those concerns is ludicrous.
|>>|| No. 67812
"That guy", who is almost definitely you, was obviously banned for starting a sentence with a lowercase letter.
|>>|| No. 67813
I don't believe you, primarily because you are talking bollocks. Their language would have to be absurdly ambiguous, or they would have to only have 1 type of sex crime recognized by lay which is equally absurd...
Fuck it I've done your job for you here is their definition
>"A person who by assault or other violence or by threat of a criminal act forces another person to have sexual intercourse or to undertake or endure another sexual act that, in view of the seriousness of the violation, is comparable to sexual intercourse, shall be sentenced for rape to imprisonment for at least two and at most six years.
>This also applies if a person engages with another person in sexual intercourse or in a sexual act which under the first paragraph is comparable to sexual intercourse by improperly exploiting that the person, due to unconsciousness, sleep, serious fear, intoxication or other drug influence, illness, physical injury or mental disturbance, or otherwise in view of the circumstances, is in a particularly vulnerable situation"
clearly that doesn't cover every type of sex attack (like say pinching someones arse couldn't be covered that definition) so you are talking shite.
|>>|| No. 67814
>who is almost definitely you
Oh yeah lad, must be. Even a cursory glance at /sfw/ shows paragraphs begun in lower case. Unsurprisingly, they aren't banned. E.g. >>67791 , >>9185 , >>67813 .
This may all come as a shock to you but when I doorstep for Labour we hear a lot of this from normal British people and they are worried, just calling them all racist and sticking your fingers in your ears is ridiculous. It's one of the things we're least trusted on as a party.
|>>|| No. 67816
>"That guy", who is almost definitely you,
This isn't always true.
I made the mistake of asking why someone got banned once because I thought he had a valid point. I was banned very quickly afterwards, with the ban reason "proxy". From my home IP no less. I popped on the IRC and got it sorted out, but I did get a chuckle. It could only possibly be one person who disagrees with you right?
|>>|| No. 67832
You are really trying to force this, aren't you? You weren't banned for being a racist. You were banned for starting your sentence with a lowercase letter.
|>>|| No. 67835
If you don't have any connection with the Middle East or Maghreb, you probably wouldn't know that European and Christian are used synonymously. What you believe in, your theology, doesn't come into it.
|>>|| No. 67836
He's right that there have been a lot of incorrectly capitalised posts lately though, and that some of them have escaped bans.
Broken britfa.gs m7.
|>>|| No. 67837
Anyone from the Middle East, mostly Arabs, are called Muslims. It is used interchangeably. It doesn't matter what they believe. The battle lines have been drawn mate.
|>>|| No. 67844
Apparently there were similar incidents in Stuttgart and Hamburg, in Hamburg outside of St. Pauli cathedral, little information about the Stuttgart events as yet. The organisation has already been commented on, but one speculates that the organisers chose to have the groups mass and shoot fireworks into the crowds at these locations partly because it is symbolic.
>A policeman told the city's Express news website that he had detained eight suspects. "They were all asylum seekers, carrying copies of their residence certificates," he said.
Asylum seeker and refugee, two terms irreparably damaged through their being too liberally applied. Everybody can seek asylum, but the North Africans are said to have been in Germany approaching two years, when their cases should have been clear cut from the beginning. Vice did a feature on Syrian refugees in Berlin and their difficulties using the housing coupons supplied by the government. They followed one Syrian through a string of hostels that wouldn't accept the coupons. Several people in the comments section wondered at his Egyptian accent.
|>>|| No. 67849
It has security implications. How can up to 1000 foreign residents coordinate a meeting at a city landmark and still take the police by surprise? It's actually quite impressive. I'd be interested in knowing how it was done.
|>>|| No. 67850
>In October, Reker (Cologne's mayor), was the victim of a vicious attack over her refugee-friendly policies when she was stabbed in the neck by a man during her campaign as an independent candidate for the mayorship.
|>>|| No. 67862
I like to imagine that these thousand people arranged to form what amounts to a violent mob by sending selfies. Probably with emoji captions: [white person emoji] = [poop emoji] [cry-laugh emoji] [cry-laugh emoji] [cry-laugh emoji]
|>>|| No. 67875
Its news like this that really upsets me. I remember a few months ago coming across the reports about the amount of sexual abuse that goes on towards female refugees in centres that are so overwhelmed there is absolutely no protection towards the minority of vulnerable women seeking asylum.
It depressed me then like a tragedy and I hoped something would be done soon to protect the women but all that has happened is its started spreading out and imposing some sort of new norm on the local populations where women have to live in fear. I know I should be careful with my language and not try to brush a whole group but these people are disgusting animals and I'm sick of reading about their exploits.
Moan ticked because its upsetting and there is no real solution on offer.
|>>|| No. 67876
>Moan ticked because its upsetting and there is no real solution on offer.
Put up a fence. Close down the border.
They don't fit in. In our new order.
|>>|| No. 67878
Ended up watching the BBC news at 10 last night - Huw Edwards didn't mention any of the policemen's claims that the perpetrators were Arabs/North Africans once. Just 'men'.
They find the time on the website though. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35231046
>City police chief Wolfgang Albers called it "a completely new dimension of crime". The men were of Arab or North African appearance, he said.
>One man described how his partner and 15-year-old daughter were surrounded by an enormous crowd outside the station and he was unable to help. "The attackers grabbed her and my partner's breasts and groped them between their legs."
>Some similar attacks were reported in Stuttgart.
>A policeman who was outside Cologne station during the New Year's Eve trouble told the city's Express news website that he had detained eight suspects. "They were all asylum seekers, carrying copies of their residence certificates," he said.
We all knew it wouldn't be the politicians who'd suffer the consequences of importing thousands of third world thugs. It's normal Germans who're suffering the consequences. No different to this country. The disconnect between normal people and political elites is a gulf.
|>>|| No. 67881
>One man described how his partner and 15-year-old daughter were surrounded by an enormous crowd outside the station and he was unable to help. "The attackers grabbed her and my partner's breasts and groped them between their legs."
>What is particularly disturbing is that the attacks appear to have been organised. Around 1,000 young men arrived in large groups, seemingly with the specific intention of carrying out attacks on women.
This sounds fucking terrifying.
|>>|| No. 67895
Looks like the Islington liberals of britfa.gs have little to say in this thread. Everyone knew third world migrants would bring their disgraceful attitudes towards women and girls here, but the elites don't live in the cheapskate areas that are most affected by the influx. So fuck any cunt that complains, they're just racist and a good spell of diversity will soon fix them.
|>>|| No. 67898
The person you are replying to is an utter, utter cunt and shits up literally every thread they post in. Just ignore them, for the sake of your own sanity.
(A good day to you Sir!)
|>>|| No. 67907
>I'm a liberal - I know better than to care about sexual assaults by gangs of foreigners! I've never seen anything like that in Primrose Hill or Islington Village - therefore it doesn't happen and anyone who flags it up as a problem is an obsessive racist.
The problem with liberals is that they actually take pride in being out of touch with normal concerns and worries. They take events like this as an opportunity to express how superior they are to nasty racist people who are worried about being sexually assaulted.
(A good day to you Sir!)
|>>|| No. 67908
Am I seriously the only person here who thinks the way posters are suddenly talking about 'liberals' is a weird Americanism?
|>>|| No. 67909
I would think the existence of the lib dem party is evidence for liberalism not being confined to the states.
I'm cautious to jump to conclusions as I know how these events can be manipulated by the media to appeal to people's fears (especially including purposely obvious hiding of certain facts to prop up the ignored silent majority narrative). However if the facts as they have been reported are true then it is certainly a damning indictment of Germany's refugee policy, which certainly should inform our own.
|>>|| No. 67910
And half the time, the people they're calling a liberal or "leftist" aren't even left. Gets right on my tits.
|>>|| No. 67912
Thanks mods. I was getting sick of him spamming that comment, especially as he copied it from me and kept using it to against people who aren't cunts. I suspect that he is the person the comment was referring to originally. Hope it was a permban.
|>>|| No. 67914
Whose definition of liberal are we using here?
|>>|| No. 67917
Actually that's the only time I posted it, and I did so only because I thought it was funny, like a running joke. The ban was for a month, and the reason was 'You were warned' - obviously, I wasn't. Anyway I won't be posting it twice now that I know Fun Isn't Allowed.
(A good day to you Sir!)
|>>|| No. 67918
Oh great, that means there's two cunts here. Wait, if you and the other lad are both cunts...and there are only three of us here...
Just kidding, but really, this isn't the sort of website where spamming "meme" really flies, even if it was a meme. You can get away with a very select few but only if they are 100% relevant.
|>>|| No. 67920
Whatever you say lad. (As an *actual* mememaster, I personally think we have plenty of in-jokes, but I don't want to get into the whole 'organic memes vs. mod-forced memes' argument again, that's been played out on /shed/ far too many times.)
|>>|| No. 67921
> I personally think we have plenty of in-jokes
It's like you didn't even read my post. Or can you not read spoilers? Did you just read the first few words then start bashing your ape-like fists on the keyboard?
|>>|| No. 67924
To be fair, the fact that you typed 'really' instead of what I assume you meant 'rarely' kind of muddles the point you were trying to make.
|>>|| No. 67926
I've been posting on facebook to everyone who laughed at that "muslamic ray guns" video about how the guy doesn't seem so stupid now. Most people go
"Oh...oh yeah I guess you have a point." They are shocked to realise that maybe that thick drunk lad had a point. Of course this is only a momentary blip before they go back to posting how they are willing to open both their house and their anus to any and all of the foreign hordes.
|>>|| No. 67936
I was visiting friends in Germany, and the topic of the refugees came up. I quietly asserted that most of the decisions made to open the doors wide-open with little check, was done on a basis of emotion rather than logic. I got a lot of hateful stares.
Oh well. They got their wishes granted.
|>>|| No. 67942
They just need to get this guy on camera again saying something like "They've got mashed taties." and every bleeding heart will smugly remind themselves how everyone who doesn't agree with them is "racist" and how those girls in Rotherham were asking for it.
|>>|| No. 67943
I'm far from Cameron's biggest fan, but he got it right on the refugee crisis instead of bowing to pressure to follow Germany and Sweden.
|>>|| No. 67948
Most Eastern European countries as well - I went to Hungary roughly around the time of the "crisis", and it's difficult to quickly assert why they built up fences in a nanosecond, but if you look at their history, they have been invaded for 1000 years - so they have a knee-jerk response to "invaders".
I really would love to see a simple solution to this crisis, but there isn't. Opening the flood gates to thousands of people who; don't speak the language, don't understand customs/culture, don't have have jobs - is not a good idea.
Why haven't any of the gulf states opened their doors?
|>>|| No. 67949
Because they don't want to. Props to Hungary for taking a similar approach.
|>>|| No. 67968
I'm reminded of a Norwegian saying. "That was the right arse that farted." It obviously means that it is the right thing being said by the wrong person.
|>>|| No. 67975
>I'm a liberal - I know better than to care about sexual assaults by gangs of foreigners! I've never seen anything like that in Primrose Hill or Islington Village - therefore it doesn't happen and anyone who flags it up as a problem is an obsessive racist.
Hmmm, nope, try harder lad.I have never so much as stepped foot south of Lincoln, and am very, very far from the picture that you'd like to draw in your scared wee head, mate. People from all walks of life have better things to do than cower in the corner in fear of the dreaded forrins, you know.
|>>|| No. 67978
>People from all walks of life have better things to do than cower in the corner in fear of the dreaded forrins
On the BBC news last night they reported that the mayor of Cologne has advised women to stay at least "arms length away" from men they don't know and not to go out in public unless absolutely necessary and not alone. They also interviewed the chief of police and he said that some no-go zones are effectively lawless because they can't control these areas so women should mentally prepare themselves for being sexually assaulted.
What a time to be alive.
|>>|| No. 67979
Oh yes that's right - the people concerned about mass migrations of third world men who demonstrably treat women like shit and behave like animals aren't just stupid, they're also 'cowering in fear'. Which syrup did you have in your skimmed milk medium latte this morning, snoblad?
|>>|| No. 67980
If you tried harder I am reasonably certain your eyes would start bleeding, m7.
|>>|| No. 67984
I just realised why there are more men coming in than women. The women know they will be sexually victimised, so they would rather stay behind and face the horrors of war.
|>>|| No. 67986
>mass migrations of third world men who demonstrably treat women like shit and behave like animals
If you believed in this fiction why wouldn't you be scared?
|>>|| No. 67987
You know it is possible to be scared of something without 'cowering in fear'. Well maybe it isn't for you, but the rest of us manage it just fine.
|>>|| No. 67988
It's one of those things that is a bit weird in translation.
The "fart" in the saying is an unpleasant truth.
|>>|| No. 67990
>On the BBC news last night they reported that the mayor of Cologne has advised women to stay at least "arms length away" from men they don't know and not to go out in public unless absolutely necessary and not alone.
Sounds like a good idea. I expect to see a lot more of Germans constantly going around with one arm outstretched as in this picture. It would be the safest thing to do.
|>>|| No. 67991
I still can't fathom how a thousand people manage to form themselves into some kind of molesty herd. Some kind of hive mind intelligence would seem the only way, but they're not aliens in that sense of the word so that can't be it.
|>>|| No. 67994
They all have smartphones.
Remember when there was all that hoohah about "flash mobs" in America organising via Blackberry Messenger? Same exact modus operandi. The software might be different but the result is the same.
|>>|| No. 67996
Get a big enough bunch of sexually frustrated mens with loose enough morals in one place and it seems almost inevitable. Have you read that story about that reporter that was stripped nude and molested in Egypt?
|>>|| No. 67997
Skimmed milk? Come on lad, the character you're creating here would obviously be vegan.
|>>|| No. 67998
Sounds like the London riots, I bet the participants in that felt untouchable by the police too.
|>>|| No. 68001
Would you rather have;
Eductation, Intergration, multination.
Or demographic decline?
|>>|| No. 68002
Give me demographic decline by all means and let us die in peace like the Japanese if that is what's in store for us.
Eventually we would become weak enough that someone would attempt an actual invasion, and at that point we would either stand or fall. But all this sneaking in of terrorists and people from completely different cultures to make the land a different continent is just underhand and sneaky.
|>>|| No. 68003
By closing down any form of debate on this by being your revolting self do you not realise that you are part of the problem?
>I would think the existence of the lib dem party is evidence for liberalism not being confined to the states.
Oh feck off you eejit. Liberalism in Europe is historically about protecting the assets and interests of the Middle Class while in America it represents the class distribution elements of the working class that we identify with the culture of labour.
Using terms like liberal going by the definition of the United States just shows you spend far too much time consuming American culture and far too little time reading up on what your talking about.
This is a false dichotomy. People who live in cities, get an education and go on to have good careers have less kids regardless of their roots.
The immigrants Europe are now taking in even if they don't immediately adopt the standard birthrate in the first generation will in the second which is just as problematic for the demography watchers this has always been a mugs game btw because it means a terminally declining European population will always need to gain more and more immigrants to support the larger previous generation.
Complain ticked because I'm on my man-period.
|>>|| No. 68004
This is you lot, but replace the word 'men' with 'people of different ethnic backgrounds'
|>>|| No. 68005
"People who live in cities, get an education and go on to have good careers have less kids regardless of their roots."
"don't immediately adopt the standard birthrate in the first generation will in the second"
Immigrants are almost uniformly young, and will tend to have families at younger ages (as well as larger). Assuming these families go on to be as stereotypical as your first quote, they form a burgeoning tax base which supports the current 'boomer' cohort to death. Following the glut, the generation between is smaller, and therefore needs a reduced tax base. Herein it repeats. I don't think it would be an upward spiral.
"This is a false dichotomy."
Correct, however what I was trying to get across succinctly is that the numbers game, is as you said, a mugs game, because the social costs are enormous of this cycle. So what I was really posing is that the alternative to >>68002 's future, one in which we seek a positive approach based on integration.
Do you think that the world can continue to develop without immigration between countries or areas?
|>>|| No. 68006
>Using terms like liberal going by the definition of the United States just shows you spend far too much time consuming American culture and far too little time reading up on what your talking about.
Thank you. I thought I was going mad being the only person who thought this. Unfortunately you will still be banned.
|>>|| No. 68007
>Following the glut, the generation between is smaller, and therefore needs a reduced tax base. Herein it repeats. I don't think it would be an upward spiral.
Is this how it works out in practice? I thought the laplanderstani population in this country was increasing exponentially rather than slowing down?
|>>|| No. 68009
>>68007 If you weren't in such a rush to respond, fastlad, you'd cotton on that the immigrant population will increase to begin with and will then stabilise.
What most of this thread is about is the permanent cultural and, more basically, ethnic changes these cycles bring.
|>>|| No. 68010
>you'd cotton on that the immigrant population will increase to begin with and will then stabilise.
Well laplanderstanis have been coming here since the 50s and 60s but I wasn't aware that their population was stabilising.
Are you sure you're not advertising some form of ponzi scheme?
|>>|| No. 68011
The population who are here already are stabilising. The number immigrating is still high.
If you look at commenwealth ethnicities, now onto second or third generation adults, they tend to have normal 2-3 child families (these are above average because white-british etal. are below the replacement rate at 1.5).
|>>|| No. 68013
>Cologne sex attacks: Police could not cope - report - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35256576
>"What happens on right-wing platforms and in chatrooms is at least as awful as the acts of those assaulting the women," he said. "This is poisoning the climate of our society."
How the fuck can posts on chatrooms be as bad as actual sexual assault? What the fuck goes on in these people's heads?
|>>|| No. 68014
The Germans are, for very obvious reasons, touchy about certain kinds of rhetoric.
|>>|| No. 68015
I have yet to see evidence of the Germans being more 'touchy' about these supposed chatrooms than the hordes of third world animals terrorisingwomen and girls in the streets of their own country.
|>>|| No. 68016
If you think about it for 3+ seconds you would realise that far right demagoguery has had more disastrous consequences for Germany than any sexual assault ever has.
|>>|| No. 68018
When was the last time you saw a Sami family with fewer than 2.8 children?
|>>|| No. 68019
>on right-wing platforms and in chatrooms
fiver says they mean Krautchan related IRCs channel discussing the killing of jews and they haven't worked out it is all a massive joke.
Lad Hitler making speeches wasn't the problem, the fact that he then ordered people rounded up into camps and the army to invade neighboring countries was.
Uncomfortable ideas themselves never hurt anyone (and I believe are important to explore for a healthy critical mind, to understand why ideas are wrong and right). When people perform actions is where you have a problem.
Sticks and stones as they say.
|>>|| No. 68022
>Hitler making speeches wasn't the problem, the fact that he then ordered people rounded up into camps and the army to invade neighboring countries was
Hmm, remind me how he got into a position to give those orders.
|>>|| No. 68025
Because he was standing against the 1930s equivalent of Jeremy Corbyn so could get away with almost anything and still win decisively.
|>>|| No. 68027
It's usually best to refute his claims by providing some information that backs you up.
|>>|| No. 68028
>Lad Hitler making speeches wasn't the problem, the fact that he then ordered people rounded up into camps and the army to invade neighboring countries was.
The camps thing I'll give you is no way to behave. He didn't however just tell the army to invade places for the hell of it. It was more complicated than that.
|>>|| No. 68030
It's usually best to provide information to back up a claim in the first place.
|>>|| No. 68031
>Hitler making speeches wasn't the problem
The people on the receiving end of the racial and political violence those speeches encouraged might take issue with that (or would, if he hadn't made further use of that rhetoric to facilitate the murder of them all).
|>>|| No. 68032
Nor did he round people up in the camps for the hell of it, it's still fucked.
|>>|| No. 68035
OP's picture disturbs me. I'm grateful that none of my friend's look like a bunch of slackers/space clowns. I'm placing bets that these people are from Australia or something.
|>>|| No. 68036
>The police chief of Cologne has lost his job following criticism of his handling of violence in the city on New Year's Eve.
>Police chief Wolfgang Albers, 60, was informed by state interior minister Ralf Jaeger that he would be given early retirement on Friday. He confirmed the news in a statement.
>It comes after a report leaked on Thursday contradicted the police chief’s statements that authorities had little or no information about the background of the attackers.
>"Among the identity checks that were carried out, the majority of people were only able to produce evidence of registration as an asylum seeker from the Federal Office for Migration and Refugees [BAMF]," read a police report from January 2, according to Die Welt.
>Albers has been accused of attempting to hide the asylum seekers' involvement in the mass sexual assaults.
|>>|| No. 68039
One key aspect of all this that everyone seems to be ignoring is why eskimo men have a tendency to behave like this. Middle eastern countries are infamous for having an attitude towards women that reduces them to animals waiting to get fucked. Prostitutes in the western world anecdotally remark that their customers are more likely to be Asian men and there is certainly a higher incidence of sexual violence inflicted upon women by laplanders because whilst they account for around 5% of the population, they are responsible for around 14% of all the rapes. Instead of demonising them and playing into a narrative that is potentially very divisive, the wise thing to do would be to somehow promote a sex positive attitude within their population so that they don't nonce kids or prey on women.
Susan Brownmiller has wrote extensively on this subject and perhaps the solution is to make them go fuck their own women instead of leading incredibly frustrated horny lives that clouds their judgment. Their region is going through some sort of weird Malthusian burst and I think their attitude towards sex is a bigger factor in the general violence within their countries than people would think. Of course, the only problem is that both sides will try to brush this under the carpet because people are embarrassed to talk about the honour culture or sexually repressive environments these men grow up in.
This video illustrates how these men tend to think, the boy singing in it is already in love with one of his 70 sex virgin sex angels that is promised to him for martyrdom. Perhaps pre marital sex would be the lesser of two evils, certainly better than rape and war.
|>>|| No. 68040
I like to think that the reason the women go around wearing burqas and shit is because a Sultan, or whatever I've gone into business with an Arabic dairy farmer. He likes to call himself the Milk Sheikh. had a really ugly daughter so he ordered that all women had to cover themselves up and it caught on. The reason the French wore silly wigs for about two hundred years is because Louis XIII used them to mask his male pattern baldness.
|>>|| No. 68041
Women having to wear varying degrees of veil so's not to offend big tough blokes goes back way further than Islam, but I suppose your ugly Sultan theory could explain its present day ubiquity in the region. But almost definitely not.
I have a craft ale making Muslim friend called the Beer Emir. I wish.
|>>|| No. 68042
Who's everyone? The third world attitude to women - but about decent human conduct generally, as we saw from that rape by those two Libyan 'moderate rebels' on leave from the barracks - is repugnant.
I have hears your scholar's thoughts expressed more eloquently before.
https://youtu.be/OubHHtNM94s in case the embed fucks up.
|>>|| No. 68050
Other than a general awareness that head covering for was recorded long before Islam, not really.
Now please fix your double post, it's a terrible eyesore.
|>>|| No. 68051
They aren't burk'd up to avoid offending. It's a primitive solution to the avoid the instability that promiscuity can introduce into a society. Basically sweeping it under the rug, or wrapping the rug around the woman.
|>>|| No. 68052
Yes, but this has turned the randiness of men into the moral duty of women, meaning that any break in the will of a man to resist, legal or otherwise, can simply be blamed on the moral failings of the woman.
|>>|| No. 68053
>Basically sweeping it under the rug, or wrapping the rug around the woman.
This has reminded me on the /iq/ discussion on the length of their fanny hair for some reason.
|>>|| No. 68079
Looks like the German people have had enough of this shit.
Mein Kampf at number 2 on the bestseller list on the German Amazon.
I guess they've all been called Nazis so much for daring to complain about the situation, they've decided to research what the label means.
|>>|| No. 68080
And of course, to go with your copy of Mein Kampf, the most popular choice is some pepper spray.
It must be grim to be a German woman right now.
|>>|| No. 68081
I'm not sure which I find funnier: that Mein Kampf is at no. 2, or that it was knocked off the no. 1 spot by that snoothie book.
|>>|| No. 68082
Second only to smoothie recipes!
I knew this was going to happen. Not the smoothie madness consuming Germany but as soon as I read that the copyright was due to expire on Mein Kampf I knew a bunch of bullshit would start coming out about how Germans have had enough. Its just an important historical book that has been out of print in the country for a long time, I doubt most of the buyers will even finish reading it but have instead got it for the curiosity effect.
In case you lads were wondering the UK list of best-sellers is just as dire.
|>>|| No. 68083
>Not the smoothie madness consuming Germany but as soon as I read that the copyright was due to expire on Mein Kampf I knew a bunch of bullshit would start coming out about how Germans have had enough.
How do you explain them all buying pepper spray to go with it?
|>>|| No. 68084
Yeah, I'd actually prefer the works of Herr Hitler to be taking the UK by storm if it meant "adult" colouring books weren't a thing.
|>>|| No. 68100
Of course letting these people in was a great idea, right guys?
How the fuck did they smuggle those guns in...oh right I'm sure checking for guns is racist.
|>>|| No. 68102
This is from new year's eve you fucking idiot.
I've been going there for years and there is always a massive amount of fireworks and other shite being fired off, including blank rounds that usually litter the streets the day after.
|>>|| No. 68103
>including blank rounds that usually litter the streets the day after.
Video proof please? If it "always" happens, this shouldn't be too hard for you.
|>>|| No. 68104
Also do they usually let fireworks off into crowds of non-immigrants? Or is that just a part of the immigrant's culture we should respect.
Remember to keep all people who look like they might throw a firework at you one arm length away.
|>>|| No. 68105
Well yeah, there is news of mass sex attacks so of course women are going to be buying pepper spray. I think Mahmoud should fuck off back to his own country as much as the next guy but lets not misinterpret data to make it fit a narrative.
Guns are not hard to come across especially on the mainland given the flow from the Balkans. Its assumed this is how the Hebbo attackers got their hands on automatic weapons.
Back in 2012 when I was entertaining the thought of blowing my brains out I looked into picking a handgun in Manchester and the going rate is £400. Illegal firearms aren't actually as hard to come by as people think.
|>>|| No. 68106
>lets not misinterpret data to make it fit a narrative.
What's the newspeak approved way of interpreting it?
|>>|| No. 68107
Letting off blank firing pistols and flare guns is perfectly normal in Germany. Here are representative scenes from Berlin and Hamburg, both showing the practice:
Blankfiring pistols are freely available in Germany without a license. They are commonly used to fire special CS cartridges as a self defence weapon.
|>>|| No. 68108
>Also do they usually let fireworks off into crowds of non-immigrants? Or is that just a part of the immigrant's culture we should respect.
It's part of German culture. People throw fireworks, let off rockets in their hand and launch them from balconies. The video is a testimony to the effective integration of migrants in Germany.
|>>|| No. 68110
Here's a video giving advice on how to use blankfirers on New Year's Eve. It has nearly 160,000 views.
|>>|| No. 68111
Book was always going to sell well.
People buy self defence stuff when there is crime in the news.
And newspeak refers to the altered language used by the society of 1984 as a means of control. We're not discussing the linguistics of news reports but what can be read from the data.
|>>|| No. 68112
Fair enough, I stand corrected.
Still not pleased about all the sex attacks, but I'll admit I got the wrong idea over the guns.
|>>|| No. 68113
I think the lesson to be learned is that it's dangerous to construct an opinion based on a headline or a YouTube clip. The media can only ever present fragments of reality, stripped of most of their context. The sex attacks in Koln are unarguably awful, but not necessarily representative of a broader trend.
The situation in Germany is difficult and tense, but the German people are used to adversity. Most of the complaints about the current situation have been heard before, during reunification.
When the wall came down, West Germany was flooded with impoverished migrants. East Germans had to be integrated into a capitalist society. They needed to learn new values and skills, they needed jobs and homes. Old grievances had to be settled. The process of unification was difficult and expensive and is still unfinished. The vast majority of Germans consider it to be not just worthwhile, but an essential duty.
In my opinion, that is the key piece of cultural context that most observers miss. The German attitude to migration is not mere political correctness, nor is it fuelled by post-war guilt. It is driven above all by the pain of division, of families torn apart by a line on a map. Angela Merkel is a conservative, but she is also an Ossi.
Wir können das schaffen, und wir schaffen das.
|>>|| No. 68114
> The sex attacks in Koln are unarguably awful, but not necessarily representative of a broader trend.
It is a trend though. Look at Sweden. Takes in the most immigrants...has the most rape in Europe.
|>>|| No. 68115
They also have Europe's highest level of gender equality and confidence in the justice system, both of are correlated with an increase in reporting rates of rape, and have some of the broadest definitions of rape and sexual assault on the planet (remember Assange?), but yeah it's probably all down to immigration, great point.
|>>|| No. 68118
What would it take to make you think rapes were increasing, seeing as the reported facts are something you think isn't true?
|>>|| No. 68119
Are you trying to suggest that the level of rape in Sweden hasn't had an input from the levels of third world immigration?
Yes we have to be mindful not to fall into the suicide rate trap of Nordic countries but you're going to have to do allot better in explaining what policies have led to such a difference compared to Sweden neighbours and over the past 10 years and why the new rape levels correlate to areas with high levels of immigrants. That is going to need much more detail than pointing to the alleged victim of Assange's willyleak especially when police authorities themselves are reporting they have never seen anything like the kind of attacks that went on during New Years.
I mean you must be pulling my leg if you think I can just pass off organized groups of men launching fireworks into a crowd to cause panic and then surrounding individual women so nobody can see inside while they mass grope them as normal for Europe. Its not and to belittle this as you are is shameful.
|>>|| No. 68120
>A Somali woman who briefly worked as a journalist in Sweden said that the politically correct media makes Sweden more dangerous than Mogadishu. She discovered that Al-Shabaab were recruiting people from a recreational center and after running the story she received threats from locals while the Swedish journalists labeled her report as “hearsay”. So she moved back to Mogadishu.
>Yes, you read correctly. She prefers Somalia to Sweden, because she considers it less dangerous than the Swedish suburb she lived in.
|>>|| No. 68124
>both of are correlated with an increase in reporting rates of rape
This is the important part. Because of the greater confidence that something will result, victims are more likely to come forward. This is why these numbers increasing is a good thing. Given that literally all the available data suggests that the actual underlying level of sexual violence, like every other violent crime, has been on a downward trend for at least two decades, the increasing numbers aren't reflecting more crime but more reporting.
|>>|| No. 68127
>This is why these numbers increasing is a good thing.
You communist fucks never cease to amaze me.
|>>|| No. 68128
> the increasing numbers aren't reflecting more crime but more reporting.
Do you really believe this is true, especially after the whole Cologne thing?
That was the level of rape that is normal for a German new year, it was happening every year before?
Please tell me you are kidding.
|>>|| No. 68136
Yeah, because those victims should just shut up and take it like the cattle they are, right?
|>>|| No. 68137
>Do you really believe this is true, especially after the whole Cologne thing?
You realise your entire argument here is paedocrabs, right?
|>>|| No. 68139
Remember, more rapes = good thing, according to the left.
|>>|| No. 68140
Hang on pal, are you trying to tell me that culture has no impact on a persons likelihood of committing sexual assault and especially in the kind of organized assault that seems reminiscent of Tahrir Square?
I think you will find that culture works both as a factor in reporting abuse and actually carrying it out. Its widely reported how Afghans have a high prevalence of paedocrabic behaviour owing to a culture of sexual abuse in the region that stretches back centuries similarly the culture of sexual violence in the Middle East is shameful and a cause for obvious connections to be drawn to how migrants are now behaving on European soil.
Shut up, lad.
|>>|| No. 68144
There were two reported rapes and a few dozen sexual assaults. Sadly, those would be typical numbers for a large music festival.
North African and Middle Eastern men are somewhat more likely to commit sexual assaults than the indigenous Western European population, but that's without correcting for confounding variables like social class and education levels. There are similar disparities amongst recent migrants from some parts of Eastern Europe (particularly Romania and Albania). We just don't have enough data to be confident that it is a unique cultural phenomenon rather than simply a factor of demographics. Violent crime is predominantly committed by poor and uneducated people, so these disparities may well disappear within a generation or two in countries with effective integration programmes.
Stranger rape is a relatively rare offence - the vast majority of rapes and sexual assaults are perpetrated by someone known to the victim. Sexual attitudes amongst Muslim men are a cause for concern, but so are sexual attitudes amongst all men.
The rate of reported rape in Sweden was atypically high well before the recent wave of immigration. They could deport every single Muslim male in the country and still have the highest rate in Europe. As has been repeatedly stated, Sweden is an outlier because of their broad definition of rape and the high proportion of rapes that are reported to the police.
|>>|| No. 68146
Article is behind a paywall, FYI.
I lived in Sweden for 2 years, and there seems to be some kind of spell on the country, one where common sense and political correctness has permeated every demographic of society.
You can never say anything negative about immigration or immigrants, and by immigrants it's implied those from Africa/Middle East. They bend backwards so much to accommodate everyone, I can't help but they are digging their own graves.
However, it seems like this is only prevalent in the South, mostly. The North and rural areas aren't vocal, but they certainly are aware of the problems that are looming.
|>>|| No. 68148
>There were two reported rapes and a few dozen sexual assaults. Sadly, those would be typical numbers for a large music festival.
More than 500 criminal complaints were filed, 40% alleging sexual assault.
Can we stop trivialising rape and sexual assault, please?
|>>|| No. 68150
They fucking clearly are. As 'numbers typical for a music festival' which is a fucking fib.
Women and children getting sexually assaulted by third world men, no news here lads, carry on or you're racist.
|>>|| No. 68152
No, lad. You're trivialising it by asserting that it doesn't happen.
>Women and children getting sexually assaulted by third world men
Is no different from women and children getting sexually assaulted by first world men. Have you learned nothing from Paedogeddon?
|>>|| No. 68154
Reading comprehension not your strong point, but then why would it be of someone trying to defend racist outbursts.
|>>|| No. 68155
>no news here lads, carry on or you're racist.
What? In no way is that happening here.
|>>|| No. 68157
Enlightenment me then, oh wise one.
In Guardianland getting angered by the sexual assault and the subjugation of women when the perpetrators are African/Arabic is far worse than the actual attack on women's rights.
By saying that the men were apparently foreign, when this has been confirmed for definite, it is clear the Graun do not believe the testimony of the actual victims. Can you imagine the absolute shitfit the paper would have if it was someone else not taking the victims of sexual assault seriously?
|>>|| No. 68158
>In Guardianland getting angered by the sexual assault and the subjugation of women when the perpetrators are African/Arabic is far worse than the actual attack on women's rights.
Why is it impossible to be angered by both? Whence this false dichotomy?
Because people's nationality is unrelated to their ethnicity, especially in a multicultural country like Germany. Come on lad this is basic stuff.
>when this has been confirmed for definite
How has it been 'confirmed for definite'? Have they found all the perpetrators and asked them where they come from?
|>>|| No. 68159
>Why is it impossible to be angered by both? Whence this false dichotomy?
If you'd paid any attention to the Guardian's coverage on this then it'd be painfully obvious they consider women's rights to be secondary to showing how not racist they are by a considerable margin.
>Because people's nationality is unrelated to their ethnicity, especially in a multicultural country like Germany. Come on lad this is basic stuff.
Oh, right. So the perpetrators aren't recent arrivals from lands with more backwards attitudes to women, emboldened by the reluctance of the police to enforce the law. It's second or third generation immigrants who haven't integrated and still that those backwards attitudes. That's so much more reassuring.
>How has it been 'confirmed for definite'? Have they found all the perpetrators and asked them where they come from?
An official report saying they were almost exclusively of North African or Arabic origin is good enough for me.
|>>|| No. 68160
I got into an argument with a racist today. I was trying to get him to remain cautious and not jump to conclusions, but he insisted on wanted everything to be in black and white.
|>>|| No. 68161
I hope what's happening in this video never happens to a female relative of yours.
|>>|| No. 68162
This is actually a "game" in the Muslim world called "Taharrush".
It basically involves encircling a "whore" (usually a western woman or woman dressed in western clothes) and...well...you know the rest.
Type that into youtube and see what kind of people they want to import.
And remember, within two years, all these people Germany imported will have freedom of movement and be able to enter England.
|>>|| No. 68163
But my guardian articles say this happens with white western Europeans all the time!
|>>|| No. 68165
This whole debacle is starting to wake some people up, finally. Even the ultra PC crowd of Jezebel.
A selection of the comments.
>I am glad you guys posted something, the mainstream media's insistence on burying this story because they are afraid it may cause people to be racist/biased/whatever is abhorrent. Hundreds of women were sexually assaulted in a coordinated attack, this should be the number one story. It isn't even on CNN's front page, and it barely was the day after it happened. I would hope that the liberal media could be confident enough in its viewers/supporters intelligence to understand that not all Muslims are going to do this and report on this in the manner they would if it was a group of white men who did it.
>Religious and cultural background absolutelty matter because they are explantory factors for behavior. Period. You can isolate these things as causal factors without being a racist, Islamophobic asshole, but ignoring the fact that numerous women were sexually assaulted by a specific group of men because that fact makes you uncomfortable is pathetic.
> Yeah, well, this seems to be working both ways. Because when the attackers are unquestionably non-white, it's the Western, (white) feminists who chant in a choir that it's not ultimately the men's fault. They also castigate (Muslim) women for speaking up about their oppression.
> I agree. I have always rolled my eyes at conservatives' ramblings about the "liberal media", but now I am really seeing it for what it is and I think based on the responses to my post, a lot of people are starting to feel this way. I don't want to live in a country where we refuse help to those who need it (ESPECIALLY the women and children who are enmeshed in that culture), but if we don't acknowledge that this happened and take steps to address it, something else will occur and there will be no way the public supports anyone coming here. It will be disastrous.
|>>|| No. 68168
I'd like to see which of those that have taken part in these crimes are Sunni and which are Shia. Has that been talked about anywhere?
|>>|| No. 68169
>Type that into youtube and see what kind of people they want to import.
Oh my. I just tried this again. A couple of hours ago there was page upon page of this stuff. Now? only 2 pages, with only two pertinent videos.
Looks like "shut it down!" is in full effect.
|>>|| No. 68170
Considering the slowness with which any suspects are even being identified and detained, conversations about their religious backgrounds are probably quite far off.
|>>|| No. 68172
>ultra PC crowd of Jezebel
You missed the joke to their agenda. They aren't PC unless it suits them. Their agenda is power for women and demonetisation of men, plain and simple.
|>>|| No. 68173
Why are you surprised at someone surveiling a wide selection of media, you tedious bore?
|>>|| No. 68176
I leave this as an exercise to the reader. I think the position sounds absurd unless you have actually read Jezebel.
|>>|| No. 68177
I for one can't make up my mind without knowing Justine's take on things.
|>>|| No. 68178
The horses on britfa are so high they've vomited everywhere.
|>>|| No. 68179
I have, and it seems pretty standard feminist stuff. I've heard the accusation that they hate men before. But then I've also heard the accusation that all feminists hate men before.
|>>|| No. 68181
>But then I've also heard the accusation that all feminists hate men before.
I know, it's terrible isn't it? Such a shame that 99% of feminists fuck it up for the rest of them.
|>>|| No. 68183
I don't think it is 99% of feminists, in that the majority of society ARE feminists, but if someone feels the need to self label as a feminists in our society chances are they don't just believe in equality between the sexes and are probably a bit of a nut job. The same way if someone called themselves a capitalist and they are probably a sociopath.
|>>|| No. 68185
The overwhelming majority of feminists don't hate men. The overwhelming majority of people who identify as feminists don't hate men. A minority of a minority of radical feminists do, sure, but if you think their views represent the majority you are either purposefully looking for a way to avoid engaging with actually relevant feminism or you're just very, very dumb indeed, and possibly illiterate.
|>>|| No. 68186
>actually relevant feminism
If it were relevant then nobody would perceive that 'minority of a minority' to be all of them, would they.
|>>|| No. 68187
>The same way if someone called themselves a capitalist and they are probably a sociopath.
Well not quite, because the term 'capitalist' is associated with the prevailing orthodoxy and is in fact a term invented by Marxism. That analogy would only work if you were also talking about people labelling themselves men's rights activists (who are of course not nut jobs at all).
|>>|| No. 68188
In fact probably not even MRAs as that is what they prefer to be called. What's a term invented by feminists... 'supporter of the patriarchy', perhaps? You know if someone labelled themselves that you would certainly want to get far away from them.
|>>|| No. 68189
>you are either purposefully looking for a way to avoid engaging with actually relevant feminism or you're just very, very dumb indeed, and possibly illiterate.
Why would I even bother engaging with it?
Women have pay equality now in before you post a load of bullshit claiming this isn't true, the vote, they have all the same rights as men. But that isn't good enough, is it?
The only people left out there beating the drum for feminism are a bunch of legbeard misandrists. Why would I bother engaging with them?
I truly believe women and men deserve equal rights. I also believe that it's now men who are at a loss when it comes to things such as custody cases, divorce proceedings, prison sentences (went out with a mental bird once who glassed someone on a bus and the judge straight up said to her "The only reason you aren't being sent to jail is because you are a woman." She didn't have children to keep her out of jail for, so why does she get a lesser sentence?
Feminism, the old feminism, was a noble and just cause. If you think there is any "actually relevant feminism" in this country, please point it out to me.
I say in this country because obviously there are other cultures and countries out there that are still in the dark age. These feminists, if they want to really make a difference should go to those countries and do their work there.
|>>|| No. 68190
I don't think I'm going to bother engaging with you, now. Your post is full of just so much utter bullshit.
|>>|| No. 68192
I told you I'm not going to bother engaging with you in the same way you told us you're not going to bother engaging with the people you call 'legbeard misandrists'. So the feeling is mutual.
|>>|| No. 68197
>x, the old x, was a noble and just cause. If you think there is any "actually relevant x" in this country, please point it out to me.
Ah, the timeless justification of why previous generations were wrong to resist change in the past, but this time, when it's my turn to listen, it's definitely fine.
|>>|| No. 68198
> If you think there is any "actually relevant feminism" in this country, please point it out to me.
I'm reiterating this and hoping a saner mind will reply. I am genuinely interested. Surely there is someone out there who knows more about this than I who can manage to post without steam coming from his ears.
|>>|| No. 68201
Domestic violence, division of household labour, Parliamentary representation, abortion access etc. etc. If you're genuinely interested it really, really, isn't hard to find out, mate.
|>>|| No. 68202
There is more domestic violence committed by women than men. Less prosecution though.
> division of household labour,
You want to make laws about who does the washing up? Audible mirth. That's an issue between two people, not society as a whole.
Yeah, I hate how women have a harder time getting an abortion than a man.
|>>|| No. 68203
Hm, yes, I'm sure someone who didn't even know these issues existed until 5 minutes ago has done the adequate research to justify dismissing them with shit quips.
|>>|| No. 68205
I've researched the domestic violence angle a hell of a lot.
Maybe I misunderstood you. What do you mean by division of household labour?
(I'll admit I was taking the piss with the abortion comment, but it's really fucking easy for a woman to get an abortion, at any age, in the UK.)
|>>|| No. 68206
Because you can't discuss women's issues if you're not a woman, obviously. If you want a female MP, nobody's preventing you from voting for one.
Complaining about the gender ratio in Parliament is effectively declaring that democracy is sexist, which is rather like saying chess is racist because white always goes before black.
|>>|| No. 68207
I don't see why it can't be done on a relevant angle. Your mum certainly gets around.
>I also believe that it's now men who are at a loss when it comes to things such as custody cases, divorce proceedings, prison sentences
Actually there are a number of problems with the assertion that family law is biased against men. The biggest is that matters of divorce and custody are almost always settled out of court and when it does arrive before a Judge their concern is for the welfare of any children (I'm going to focus on child law here because
alimony maintenance is another kettle of fish). This creates a problem whereby there is dually a lack of data to support what is essentially a myth and a clear lack of support on the matter of principle.
We also have to consider the kind of role fathers and mother adopt in the home which matter in practice. Its still the case that women take on a larger share of the child rearing particularly in the early years where a mother may drop out of the workforce entirely part of the reason for proposals to lower the age of compulsory education and the present provision of assistance for early years childcare is getting both parents into full-time work ASAP. This creates a natural bias in who will 'win' a custody battle given the result is decided on what is the least disruption to the child - that may piss off Fathers for Justice but its all to do with what is best for the children.
The reason this assumption pisses me off so much is because it creates an expectation in men who may have legitimate claims that the Justice system won't help them meaning they won't bother trying to fight for their rights and just settle out of court. Then they moan about it creating a self perpetuating cycle and probably a sense of animosity towards the mother because stuff was never resolved.
As for the bird who lost her glasses on the bus, I don't know the case so I can't comment but the reason for the warped gender ratio of the prison population is to do with the kind of offences women and men commit with the lads generally doing more stupid illegal shit of a violent nature while birds usually get caught nicking from primark (although this is changing). You probably should have tipped off the press on that case because it sounds outrageous.
>If you think there is any "actually relevant feminism" in this country, please point it out to me.
Men are under-represented in teaching roles and almost entirely absent in early years education. This is a problem for kids without dads in need of a positive male role model and a problem for teaching generally given boys perform significantly worse than girls in compulsory education (they catch up at university which has a stronger male representation in teaching) which is arguably down to a female dominated profession serving both sexes. It gets worse for those brave men who work in nurseries as they are all 'obviously' nonces which might help explain why nurseries function on factor 10 mental bar bar rainbow sheep land.
Oh, did you think feminism was only about women and not problematic gender roles? How silly.
[oh bloody hell, lads. I type out a big reply but then the threads accelerates away from me]
|>>|| No. 68208
>it's really fucking easy for a woman to get an abortion, at any age, in the UK
Except in Norn Iron, where the DUP, including its female MLAs (one of whom is now First Minister), voted against harmonising the law with that on the mainland, which is different only by constitutional accident. Granted, it's still easier there than south of the border, but it's still awkward.
|>>|| No. 68210
>This creates a problem whereby there is dually a lack of data to support what is essentially a myth and a clear lack of support on the matter of principle.
There are countless stories of men being the better partner and the woman still getting custody. It's not a myth. Cases where the mother was a drug addict etc but the man automatically gets naysayed.
> This creates a natural bias in who will 'win' a custody battle given the result is decided on what is the least disruption to the child - that may piss off Fathers for Justice but its all to do with what is best for the children.
>The reason this assumption pisses me off so much is because it creates an expectation in men who may have legitimate claims that the Justice system won't help them meaning they won't bother trying to fight for their rights and just settle out of court.
Again, there are countless cases where people have fought long and hard only for it all to be naught.
>I can't comment but the reason for the warped gender ratio of the prison population is to do with the kind of offences women and men commit
I'll admit that men probably do more muggings etc but when it comes to stupid fights, women have much softer sentences.
>You probably should have tipped off the press on that case because it sounds outrageous.
She would have hunted me down and ripped off my testicles. Also she's got some well hard chavvy bloke mates who would probably murder me.
>Men are under-represented in teaching roles and almost entirely absent in early years education. This is a problem for kids without dads in need of a positive male role model and a problem for teaching generally given boys perform significantly worse than girls in compulsory education (they catch up at university which has a stronger male representation in teaching) which is arguably down to a female dominated profession serving both sexes. It gets worse for those brave men who work in nurseries as they are all 'obviously' nonces which might help explain why nurseries function on factor 10 mental bar bar rainbow sheep land.
Very good point.
You're both right there, NI really should change that. I don't personally agree with abortion, but I do agree that people should have the right to choose.
|>>|| No. 68211
>You want to make laws about who does the washing up? Audible mirth. That's an issue between two people, not society as a whole.
I'll pick on this because it runs along the myth of the 'common law wife'. Lets say you shacked up with your bird and had kids without getting married, you go off to work while she stays at home to look after them and yadda yadda.
As soon as the kids fuck off to uni you decide to turf her out. At this point she has nothing because you pay the bills, your name is on the deed and the court can't demand compensation for the hours she put in because matters like a mothers love can't be quantified. The end.
|>>|| No. 68212
I don't see abortion as having anything to do with feminism.
|>>|| No. 68213
Most of what you are coming out with here is a 'there are plenty of stories'. The reason people are sceptical is because there is no hard data to suggest this is true and there is nothing to suggest such a conclusion in the principles the court uses to make its decisions. Even on the level of basic humanity I don't believe a Judge will allow a child to be put in any danger, its an outrageous accusation to make.
If these people believe there to be some gross miscarriage of justice regarding how a court of law has assessed the interests of the child then they may appeal and certainly should if the child is going to be put in any danger.
>She would have hunted me down and ripped off my testicles. Also she's got some well hard chavvy bloke mates who would probably murder me.
You missed a trick lad. Imagine having some of those female police officers with the nice bums keeping watch of you and maybe even a new identity. You could be living the high life as 'Randy McShagging' known sex menace of the Northern Constabulary.
|>>|| No. 68216
Most of what you are coming out with here is a 'there are plenty of stories'. The reason people are sceptical is because there is no hard data to suggest this is true
This is exactly what you did.
>Even on the level of basic humanity I don't believe a Judge will allow a child to be put in any danger, its an outrageous accusation to make.
It would be nice if the world was fair , but it isn't.
|>>|| No. 68217
>Very good point.
What, don't you want to demand proof of his assertions and point out all the stories you've heard that prove him wrong? How odd. I guess I'll have to pick up the torch.
When I was at primary school I was taught by male teachers, and there are countless other cases of primary school children being taught by men, so this claim that men are 'absent' from early years education is patent bollocks. The reason boys are being outperformed by girls is actually because the curriculum is biased in favour of subjects that women are better at, like abortion and winning child custody.
|>>|| No. 68218
>German news agency dpa quoted Albers telling reporters on Monday that it was "an intolerable situation that such crimes are committed in the middle of the city."
As opposed to thousands of men assaulting multiple women in the countryside? What?
|>>|| No. 68219
>The reason boys are being outperformed by girls is actually because the curriculum is biased in favour of subjects that women are better at, like abortion and winning child custody.
What are you on about m8, I got an A star in abortion class at primary. The other was harder because I was 7 and legally a child myself but I still enjoyed the winning child custody lessons.
|>>|| No. 68221
Isn't the whole 'girls do better at school' thing to do with them on average reaching puberty before boys, and therefore maturing faster and actually bothering to study whilst the boys actually do kid stuff?
|>>|| No. 68222
>majority of society ARE feminists
Out of interest, is there good evidence for the majority of people self-identifying as feminists? Or is it just that the majority of non-feminists don't loudly announce their non-feminism for fear of being branded as patriarchy-enablers/chauvinists/rapists etc. I'm thinking along the lines of the 'shy-tory' effect when Labour supporters were gobsmacked to find out that they're in the minority of national opinion.
|>>|| No. 68223
It's because they suck the teacher's cock. When I was at school every time it was DVD day we got to watch the same fucking hour of Pirates of the Caribbean over and over again because it's all the teacher's favourite girls ever wanted to watch. COCKSUCKING WHOREBAGS.
|>>|| No. 68224
It's all becoming clear now. Little did that casually sexist judge who refused to send a woman to jail or that teacher who let the girls command DVD day know, that they would be creating rabid anti-feminists with a deep-seated sense of gender-based injustice in later life.
|>>|| No. 68225
Yeah, deciding whether someone should spend a not inconsiderable amount of time in prison is such a trifling choice to have to makd.
|>>|| No. 68228
Looks like RT read britfags and saw that video from earlier in the thread.
|>>|| No. 68232
Is anything actually being done at all? The only thing I heard in the news was Frau Merkel claiming to try to kick criminals out of Germany after they'd done the deed.
|>>|| No. 68235
> They are from a different bloody world.
Sounds like they would be good fits in light entertainment or maybe Parliament. And there's always the Catholic church.
|>>|| No. 68238
I thought we weren't supposed to trust foreigners, or does that only apply to the brown ones?
|>>|| No. 68258
Remember that children can be little shits sometimes? That's supposed to make me indifferent to their institutional abuse, is it?
|>>|| No. 68259
>Remember that children can be little shits sometimes?
I think the cultural definition of a little shit can vary depending on where the child is from.
|>>|| No. 68262
That's unfair. That gesture is a gesture of happiness and a celebration of escaping death. It is widely practice in Somalia and Sudan, and some other Muslim communities.
|>>|| No. 68268
Wow, they are actually banning migrants from the leisure complex? It's a good start!
Hopefully they will ban them from Europe next.
|>>|| No. 68269
>...the dictionary definition of the term [feminism]
That article cites the American definition of feminism as being "the theory of the political, economic, and social equality of the sexes." In contrast, the Oxford English Dictionary defines feminism as "The advocacy of women’s rights on the ground of the equality of the sexes." The subtle difference is that whilst the former is gender neutral, the latter explicitly only pertains to women's rights.
I'd say the American definition is more in line with the UK definition of Egalitarianism, something which I would imagine the majority of people to (at least claim to) support. However, if we are to take the UK definition of feminism it is clear that being egalitarian is necessary but not sufficient. Personally, I would never claim to support a cause that explicitly excludes men from the discussion.
|>>|| No. 68270
Not upon arriving into their new countries of residence and in public swimming pools, you fucking guardanista molestation apologist.
These males have a hateful, toxic attitude towards women and girls, but you won't accept that as it contradicts your luvvie duvvie fantasy world where everyone is a rational liberal, and there is no nasty third world that molds people into callous, brutal animals that publicly molest others with abandon.
|>>|| No. 68271
>Not upon arriving into their new countries of residence and in public swimming pools
Yeah, they should be doing it in their own country in children's homes and hospitals instead like a proper nonce.
Said without a hint of irony.
|>>|| No. 68272
Presumably you think Germany is beholden to accept ISIS fighters in full uniform, fully armed,as they'd be killing people at home too.
You cretinous fucking moron.
|>>|| No. 68273
>You cretinous fucking moron.
Mate, you just literally said that the part you object to was that they were in a leisure centre in a new country. You're in no position to call anyone names.
|>>|| No. 68275
Er, yes, because Germans don't deserve having to endure third world animal behaviour brought in by third world males. Your apologism for this shit is ridiculous.
|>>|| No. 68276
1. It's "apology".
2. The only one engaging in nonce apology is you, by saying the thing that was unacceptable was that they were foreigners and it was a leisure centre. As opposed to, you know, the whole nonce thing.
|>>|| No. 68277
2 This is the most ridiculous reasoning designed to get around the fact that third world men are threatening girls and women, and your riposte is purely 'well they'd be doing it at home so what's there to worry about?'.
Piss off you Rotherham enabling twat.
|>>|| No. 68279
>Rotherham enabling twat.
People like that don't actually give a fuck about things like Rotherham unless it fulfils their political criteria.
|>>|| No. 68281
>Not upon arriving into their new countries of residence and in public swimming pools
Remember, lads. Noncing girls in swimming pools in other countries is not on. Stick to approved schools in your own back yard.
|>>|| No. 68282
The subject of the thread is third world males prosecuting rape and molestation in Europe. Maybe staying on topic is awfully difficult but I believe in you, ADHDlad.
|>>|| No. 68284
Because apparently white men engaging in rape and molestation is just fine, obviously.
|>>|| No. 68285
Is 'references' not in your dictionary? Look hard.
Your desperate scrabbling to distract from the topic of arrived male, third world men raping and molesting native Europeans is not going to be missed by 90% of people browsing this thread.
|>>|| No. 68287
>the topic of arrived male, third world men raping and molesting native Europeans
Why is this a problem? Why is "men raping and molesting" not enough for you? Why must you apologise for European men raping and molesting third world women? It's because of racist nonce apologists like you that people like Savile were able to single-handedly outperform any of the muzzie rayguns.
|>>|| No. 68288
If your curtains were on fire, would you say "fuck it" and set the carpet alight too whilst pouring petrol on the settee?
|>>|| No. 68289
It is a problem for exactly the reason you suppose you dense cunt - that these men are raping and molesting native Europeans. You're the only one suggesting that white people doing the same is ok - but that's not what we're talking about is it?
|>>|| No. 68290
>It is a problem for exactly the reason you suppose you dense cunt - that these men are raping and molesting native Europeans.
And more of them arrive week by week, fresh from third world war zones, ready to extend their disgusting animalistic behaviour into mainland Europe.
|>>|| No. 68291
That depends. Were they set alight by Syrian refugees or the local pondlife?
|>>|| No. 68292
>It is a problem for exactly the reason you suppose you dense cunt - that these men are raping and molesting native Europeans.
No, lad. If that were the reason, you wouldn't have qualified it. Yet you did qualify it, specifically to "arrived, third-world males" and "native Europeans", you rape-apologising cunt.
|>>|| No. 68293
I know leftists are getting tied up in knots between their desire for self-satisfactory 'who can love immigrants the most' and the desire to see who can hate the patriarchy the most, but I've not seen anyone bury their head in the sand in as spectacular a way as you on .GS until today.
|>>|| No. 68294
Personally I don't give a fuck about Europe, they can deal with the problems they're embracing. More concerned with what goes on here.
|>>|| No. 68295
Why are you lot so pissed off? We aren't Germans.
|>>|| No. 68297
So here we have the full spectrum - on one hand, we have citizenoftheworldlad who refuses to believe there could possibly be any correlation between growing up in a 3rd world shithole and lacking basic respect for women. On the other hand we have Mr. Nige who's never trusted foreign food and wants to shut us all in his shared little Englander panic room. Broken britfa.gs.
|>>|| No. 68301
Shut us all in? It's their problem, they can sort it out. We can watch and learn.
|>>|| No. 68302
I'm so utterly sick of this. Not you posting that comic, but people on .gs acting like they're better and sensible because they take the middle ground, or worse, refuse to actually take a position altogether.
|>>|| No. 68304
Err...Have you ever been to say, the Spanish Riviera, South East Asia or Eastern Europe? That shit is fucking standard.
|>>|| No. 68305
And just to clarify, because someone posting here lacks even one plank to be judged as thick by, i am talking about white British LADZ on holiday.
|>>|| No. 68307
Ah of course, the LADS ON TOUR, notorious rape gangs that have been traumatising spanish women for years.
As opposed to the other pissed up English bints who'll drop their knickers for a pint of sangria. Right.
|>>|| No. 68310
Have you ever wondered whether you might actually be a right horrible person? Jus' askin' and all.
|>>|| No. 68311
Have you ever wondered whether you might actually be a right horrible person? Jus' askin' and all.
|>>|| No. 68318
Because life is short. I did attempt to respond to the argument in the first post, mind. Then some daft cunt decided to prove his daftness.
Anyway, beer is calling...
|>>|| No. 68320
Dogs are fucking filthy things m7. Good on some people finally having the balls to beat them to death. Filthy, filthy things.
|>>|| No. 68321
And not just anyone can print off an A4 sheet in an entirely basic typeface, no, Sir, they can not.
|>>|| No. 68322
What does our resident bolshevik have to say about this?
>Three young men from North Africa sought to stone two transgender women in the western German city of Dortmund on Sunday.
>According to a report on Friday on television station SAT1.NRW, the men attacked Yasmine und Elisa, two transgender women, near the city’s main train station.
>“Within seconds we were tossed around…and they took stones from a gravel bed on the corner and threw them at us,” said Elisa.
>A police car at the train station appeared as the stoning attack unfolded and arrested the men.
>The German media as a general rule do not disclose the last names of victims to protect their privacy. The three men are between 16 and 18 years-old and are known to the authorities because of theft and assault arrests.
>one suspect said "You whores must be stoned." Yasmine installed a security camera at her residence where she lives with Elisa after the attacks. “That was barbaric what they did. They are barbarians,” Yasmine said.
>She added that she could not believe that such an act of shamelessness occurred. “In 2016, in Germany with stoning!” According to the SATI.NRW report, Yasmine said it was the first time in 30 years she felt unsafe as a transgender woman.
>The three men, according to Yasmine and Elisa, propositioned them. After the men realized that Yasmine and Elisa are transgender women, the men launched their assault with stones.
>Stoning people to death is a penalty used in Muslim-majority countries.
|>>|| No. 68324
I'll just assume you mean myself, and forgive your foolish assumption about my politics.
It's despicable and I'd be all in favour of their imprisonment and possible deportation. Although I find the conclusion that stone throwing is a wholly Islamic concept a tad strange.
I'd wager this puts the /pol/lads in a rather stickier position, given their disdain for both minorities involved in this incident.
What's "edgy" about >>68321 ?
|>>|| No. 68326
>I'll just assume you mean myself, and forgive your foolish assumption about my politics.
It's a bait-and-switch filter. I didn't actually type out bolshevik.
>What's "edgy" about >>68321 ?
There's a picture of a dog being fucking crucified and they decided to completely ignore that and go on to the sign.
"LALALA IN MY LIBERAL HAPPY LAND MUSLIMS ARE GREAT. SURE THEY CRUCIFY DOGS, BUT THE IDEA THAT ONE OF THEM WOULD PUT UP A SIGN SAYING NO DOGS...WELL THAT'S JUST LUDICROUS Jimmy!"
This is how ridiculous you sound.
|>>|| No. 68327
Animal abuse isn't unique to Muslims, and my disdain for it should be apparent solely on the reason that I'm in no way under the influence of psychopathy. All I was highlighting was that a sign declaring somewhere an "Islamic area" is hardly cast iron proof of anything more than a printer existing somewhere.
There's plenty to criticise with regards to the attitudes of the Muslim world towards many things. But to gather a few articles and claim there's a "European Jihad on dogs" is laughable.
And do tell what "bolshevik" is the filter of?
|>>|| No. 68328
>Animal abuse isn't unique to Muslims
They certainly do a lot more of it though.
>And do tell what "bolshevik" is the filter of?
Shortened version of the word transexual.
|>>|| No. 68329
>Although I find the conclusion that stone throwing is a wholly Islamic concept a tad strange.
You're right, I can't walk down my local high street without seeing a stoning going off.
You fucking muppet.
|>>|| No. 68330
>They certainly do a lot more of it though.
Bollocks. Look at the industrialised meat industry in the
West. Just coz you can't see it does it mean it isn't happening?
|>>|| No. 68332
You'd have to show me some numbers on that.
And good to know where you insecurities are focused, thank you.
Not at all what I was saying. I'm also quite sure you could walk around Cairo for days without seeing so much as a pebble being tossed. I'm not saying there's loads of bloody stone throwing everywhere, what I'm saying is that throwing stones isn't something innately Islamic, or something that's common in day to day life in Muslim countries.
Stop seeing everything as a switch that's either on or off, you sound and no doubt look terribly thick when you do so.
|>>|| No. 68333
Put it this way m8.
I'd wager that the number of public executions by stoning per year in the Western world is, ooh, say...under 5? We agree?
I'd say it's more than that in the Islamic world.
|>>|| No. 68334
Taken as unexplored fact then yes, I'd agree. But that doesn't mean it's universally applauded, or equally acceptable in every country we can include under the banner of "Islamic". A Texan would likely welcome the execution of a teenager with learning difficulties if suitably guilty of a vile enough crime, but the same can't be said for everyone in the West, or even Texas.
|>>|| No. 68336
> A Texan would likely welcome the execution of a teenager with learning difficulties if suitably guilty of a vile enough crime, but the same can't be said for everyone in the West, or even Texas.
Difference being in the West, it isn't allowed. Are you trying to say that just because him an an Afghani farmer both want to see gays shot, that makes them no different?
That farmer has grown up seeing the slaughter of people done by his government in public.
|>>|| No. 68337
>They certainly do a lot more of it though.
Not as much as those chinks though. Why aren't you talking about the war on dogs in those cultures? The silence and hypocrisy of the right is deafening. You suck those chinks' cocks so much that you can't even utter a word about their barbaric practices. How disappointing.
|>>|| No. 68338
>Difference being in the West, it isn't allowed.
Except in those places where it is, like Texas. Really, Texas has very little in the way of restriction on who is eligible for the death sentence. If they decide the teenager with learning difficulties can be tried as an adult then they can certainly execute him.
|>>|| No. 68339
On reflection, you're right. I wouldn't want a million Chinese deciding England is their new home either, if they wanted to do those dog-on-a-stick street vendor vans. But they don't, they assimilate and dutifully label cat as chicken so as not to offend the host culture.
|>>|| No. 68340
>Except in those places where it is, like Texas. Really, Texas has very little in the way of restriction on who is eligible for the death sentence.
I didn't mean the death sentence itself, I meant the act of public execution.
I think you can get an invite to an execution, for instance if they killed your kids or something, but they don't just hang them in the town square for all to see.
|>>|| No. 68341
Mate, they let the cameras in and everything. They've only tried to cut back on that in recent years because people have been complaining about the methods of execution and using the images as evidence.
|>>|| No. 68342
That's a lie, and you know it. Fucking camwhore. Cats and dogs have been disappearing in my town. Everyone knows it is the fucking chink restaurant down the road. I bet they are into human smuggling and the like too. Why do they get a clean break? Where's everyone anger at this? Fucking scum. I know the game you're playing lad. You just want to divide the voice of reason by making everyone look like a rapid racist. It is obvious. We shouldn't have anyone in this country. Even the fucking chinks. I don't care whether they assimilate or not. Our pets are disappearing. Their eyes are fucking weird and they can't even speak English.
People like you allow this to happen. You keep talking about "ethnic European" and all that useless bullshit. German's rape gangs are Germany's problem. Our problem is our rape gangs and those dog eating cunts who run brothels and human trafficking businesses out of their restaurants. But none of you racists care about any of that. You just want to make us sensible people look like morons by getting angry over Germany. Fuck off, you fucking filth.
People like you is the reason why this country will go to hell. I honestly hope you die in your sleep.
|>>|| No. 68343
My bad. I hadn't realised that executions behind closed doors was the height of civility and something every civilised nation should try to achieve.
|>>|| No. 68344
> We shouldn't have anyone in this country.
Finally a political position I can get behind. Kick out the people. All of them. White, brown, black, Chinese, British. Just fuck them all into the sea and be done with it. Leave nothing behind but the Churchill bulldog from off the telly, nodding away across the English Channel filled with the bloated corpses of once proud bipeds, going "Oh, yes!" over and over again.
|>>|| No. 68346
Fair enough. Texas is judged barbaric enough to accept refugees. Send all the ones intended for England to Texas.
|>>|| No. 68347
This, but also that massive pulsejet. Just the Churchill dog and a massive shiny metal arse forever farting at whatever's left of the French. This is England.
|>>|| No. 68352
Refugee women and young girls get sexually abused by the men and nobody ever cares. A good chunk in refugee camps and the ones trying to cross over into Europe get raped and face other horrors. They get abused, sold off, raped, enslaved by the men, criminals and in some cases, even the UN workers themselves. Good thing it is happening to white people now. Now people will care.
|>>|| No. 68355
>The allegations go back to last November, and involve verbal abuse and suggestive comments as well as physical violence in which the girls say they were groped and fondled.
>The attacks got more serious as time went by. The 14-year-old said that she was often hit by a 15-year-old from Afghanistan, including an incident where she was hit so badly from behind that she smashed her head onto the desk.
They're probably just lying sluts, right, progressivelad? I always physically assault girls I'm chirpsing.
|>>|| No. 68362
'White' is an American concept to draw together migrant groups that can't be bought together through nationalism, it's meaningless in Europe, etc.
Again, happens in Germany, German problem, not ours.
|>>|| No. 68380
>The three men, according to Yasmine and Elisa, propositioned them. After the men realized that Yasmine and Elisa are transgender women, the men launched their assault with stones.
I bet the ladyboys loved that. That they "passed". Worth a stoning.
|>>|| No. 68382
Does that mean bolsheviks are better than Muslims?
|>>|| No. 68444
I'm not going to sit here and tolerate links to the Daily Express posted anywhere outside of /iq/. This thread is really getting out of hand.
|>>|| No. 68450
That is a laughable response. The BBC have clearly labelled their erroneous photograph as "cannot be independently verified". When was the last time the Express had such good journalistic practice? When was the last time the Express apologised for the deliberate lies they print?
|>>|| No. 68455
I'm impressed by the contrast between the photographs and the courtroom drawing. Hamlett looks like a mandem rudeboy in the photo and a university professor in the drawing. I refuse to believe Majeed's nose really looks like that in profile, or that Hassane and Cuffy were pursing their lips the entire time they were being drawn.
|>>|| No. 68561
This is the worst response I have ever seen.
"Hey guys, we're importing hordes of rapey foreigners into our country that don't know how to behave around civilised people.
But get this right, yah, get this. You're a total bigot if you complain, because, well, yah, the politicians in power are buggering children as well!"
You are such a cunt. Such, such a cunt.
I've posted with the same amount of heatedness about the political classes committing these crimes and feel the same anger about it. I would have them all strung up from the same lamppost as the Cologne attackers.
Two wrongs don't make a fucking right.
Have a look at yourself.
I know girls from these impoverished towns who have had to deal with these rapey brown-eyed people. I've heard stories about the abductions going back decades. Decades! I remember being told these horrific tales in the nineties by women I loved. I felt angry, but I knew "not all of them are like that".
Well enough of them are like that. We don't need any more. If you don't give a fuck that British women from poor backgrounds are being raped because "well politicians are doing it too" - you don't deserve to live in a civilised society. You just don't, you rape-enabling cunt.
|>>|| No. 68563
Back on the other place, which I'm pretty sure you're an immigrant from, they have a saying you'd do well to keep in mind instead of whinging about the filters. It goes "LURK MOAR"
|>>|| No. 68564
What's the link between the length of time you've been here and actually liking the genuinely hilarious jokes? I've been here nearly 6 years and can barely contain my indifference towards them.
|>>|| No. 68565
Because obviously a few nonces in Parliament are bad apples but these darkies are all scum who don't know how to behave, right?
|>>|| No. 68567
When did I whinge? Was it when I said "I laughed"?
I've been here a few years. Most of them do give me a chuckle the first time I trigger them.
You seem to have lost the ability to read and understand posts. I said they anger me in equal measure.
|>>|| No. 68568
>You seem to have lost the ability to read and understand posts
No, merely you the ability to write them coherently. To borrow your own argument, your entire post may not have been racist, but enough of it was racist.
|>>|| No. 68571
So I was wrong to presume you said "laughed" with a measure of sarcasm? There have been a spate of posts complaining about genuinely hilarious jokes in a similar manner.
|>>|| No. 68572
>So I was wrong to presume you said "laughed" with a measure of sarcasm?
|>>|| No. 68575
>they anger me in equal measure.
Hahaha. The defence of the stupid right-winger when he's called out on his lopsided priorities. A culturr of sexual abuse amongst some poor Asian migrants and a culture of sexual abuse amongst the people in the upper echelons of government. The drunkard doley next door and multinational tax avoidance. ARE MADDIE and the millions of children in forced labour. It all angers him equally so that's OK.
(A good day to you Sir!)
|>>|| No. 68584
Don't know about the rest of calais people me, i wanna leave to france. 5 years unemployed, collectors from BT, Inland revenue, lloyds bank, water company, and finally eviction coming( ate 3 months housing benefits) Not sure if rehoused, anyone got hints how to get emergency housing if only mental health? Council obstructing me. How to fight them?
|>>|| No. 68587
>>68585 don't get smart lad, having a bottom feeder job is just the same pauperism. Good jobs are almost inherited nowadays
|>>|| No. 68588
Buy some boot polish, black up, head down to Calais and claim to be Unbe*click*kengo, Syrian refugee in search of a new life.
|>>|| No. 68589
>>68588 I got fingers in Germany, they are shared across the union. Dublin shop has everything. Many in calais should be happy they are truly anonymous, no traces no fingers. Its an expensive thing to erase youself and become someone new.
|>>|| No. 68590
> Its an expensive thing to erase youself and become someone new.
Just slip out the back, Jack.
Make a new plan, Stan.
|>>|| No. 68636
Why should the native people of any country be forced to accept demographic replacement on this scale?
|>>|| No. 68638
The only country allowed to protest is Israel, which is absolutely full on racist. What other country could actually sterilize African migrants and get away with it?
Of course, the reason for this is the holocaust, in which exactly six million Jewish people died. This was of course the greatest crime in history and NOTHING has ever happened like it before. Ever. So you just shut your racist mouth if you don't want to be an evil nazi and accept the slow death of your race.
|>>|| No. 68640
>What other country could actually sterilize African migrants and get away with it?
Oh, did some checking up on this. It wasn't outright sterilisation, instead it was just injecting them with contraceptives without their knowledge, which greatly lowered the Ethiopian birth rate on Israel.
Can you imagine what would happen if we treated our migrants like this? Injected them with body altering chemicals without them knowing? It beggars belief.
|>>|| No. 68676
See this is where it all begins and I'm fucking sorry but what's the point in arguing from false premesis?
There is no definitive 'native people' of anywhere except this planet. There are slight geneological differences, but to extrapolate this, without fail into a reason to split everyone up into little groups and then inevitably rank them against some arbitrary system leaves the participants in any debate a million bloody miles from reality to begin with.
The concept of countries is a cultural construct. Cultural constructs are, like their composite humans, fallible, semi-rational and historical sets of ideas. The country of great britiain only exists within the context of france, the european union, russia and china; it does not exist within the context of pangea, the neadertals, the roman empire et-fucking-cetera.
Demographic replacement is a completely meaningless term - what quality of demography is being replaced and what is this scale?
From a set of surreal premesis; to a set of undefined conclusions. Shit in; shit out.
|>>|| No. 68678
Yes, well, the problem is that some of us have moved on from the neanderthals to greater or lesser extent.
|>>|| No. 68679
The pronoun you're looking for is "them". "Us" implies it includes you.
|>>|| No. 68680
I've seen ''lurk moar'' used here and elsewhere for non-members of the community as advice to learn how the community behaves. Is this not important? Would you find it a refreshing change if /r9k/ turned up here and they all posted >tfw threads everywhere?
|>>|| No. 68681
I'd offer some sort of response, but your argument is so out of touch with reality that it's really impossible to do so. There's really nothing to debate with one who believes such patently delusional things.
|>>|| No. 68683
I'm waiting for your explosive uncovering of how far outside of your reality I am.
|>>|| No. 68685
What point is there? You're so far divorced of reality that reason and evidence is clearly going to have little to no effect. Either that or you're trolling and reason and evidence wouldn't enter into the equation at all.
Of course, I'm not going to leave out the possibility that it's both. Idiotic people often tend to state things they actually believe in an intentionally controvertial manner.
|>>|| No. 68688
Not him, but I'd be interested in your counter points. I keep seeing people on here dismiss what other people say, then make excuses as to why they're not going to explain their side of it. It always seems a convenient cop out for people to just say "You wouldn't understand", then insult them.
|>>|| No. 68694
I often explain my counterpoints to people I have reason to believe are arguing in good faith. There's just some arguments I don't believe can realistically be made in good faith.
It's the same reason I wouldn't bother arguing with a person who believed that suicide bombing is a legitimate and rational strategy for effecting political change. Some people are so disconnected from the continuum of reality that constructive debate seems impossible. I hold no particular enmity towards you as a person, but a person who thinks "there's no such thing as native people" is so drastically out of touch with history, biology and anthropology that we might as well be speaking completely different languages.
|>>|| No. 68695
>but a person who thinks "there's no such thing as native people" is so drastically out of touch with history, biology and anthropology that we might as well be speaking completely different languages.
Who are the native people of Britain?
|>>|| No. 68696
Anyone who cares about who is and isn't a British native is a British native.
|>>|| No. 68702
But mate, we're all citizens of the world innit, MAP LINES AREN'T REAL WAKE UP SHEEPLE!!!
This is what >>68676 genuinely believes
|>>|| No. 68707
Mate, if you can stand in two countries and shit in another, they're not particularly real.
|>>|| No. 68709
He's right, I've driven through borders on the continent and there were no lines on the ground.
|>>|| No. 68727
Lads, I'm 1/4 brown. What will happen to me when the racists win?
|>>|| No. 68728
In all honesty, as a "racist"...
If you were born here and raised here, you can stay here.
|>>|| No. 68732
To be honest, the question of what to do with people of mixed race and British-born non-natives has plagued me for years. I'm all in favour of letting most of you stay because that seems like the reasonable thing to do.
|>>|| No. 68804
Thanks racistlads. But there is another thing troubling me. You won't force us to wear a badge or cordon us into a specific part of town or anything like that, right? Basically, would I have the same rights as you?
|>>|| No. 68805
I'd ship you off to Brazil or someplace tbh, a designated mutt depository.
|>>|| No. 68809
But those third world bastard's got a virus that will shrink your head. I like me 'ead.
|>>|| No. 68810
Third racist here, again I wouldn't have an issue with you or even 100% blacks staying, no stupid badges or different rights or whatever, those here can stay, but I'd cut off anything further because it's massively divisive and creates ridiculous ghettoes where, agree or not, a lot of people don't like going just because of the people who live there. That's not acceptable in their own country.
Now to the racist bit. Do I think other races are inferior? No, I think other races (or ethnicities, doesn't have to be defined by skin colour) have their own positives and negatives, and culture plays a massive factor in incompatability. Think of it as you would inequality, which creates negative externalities despite not being an issue necessarily in itself - racial divides creates similar externalities, despite Jamal and Iain and Pawel all being human beings. No firing squads or camps are necessary, just time for the cultures of the wogs and ourselves to acclimatise to British culture as it is, that doesn't mean forcing billions of immigrants to satisfy liberal thirst for foreign cock or different liberals thirst for cheap labour. The liberal left has more in common with the David Camerons of the world than they like to admit.
RACIS RACIS RACIS RACIS RACIS RACIS RACIS.
|>>|| No. 68811
Oh and I do believe there are inferior cultures, I don't really see how you can't if you have principles by which you build your society by that you agree with. It makes no logical sense to say 'Democracy is wonderful' or 'I love bolsheviks' and at the same time to import people who think the opposite, knowing full well they do, and saying you should respect their opinion and not combat it. It shows you don't actually give a fuck about bolsheviks or democracy and are more interested in something more insidious. See: "Rub the Right's nose in diversity".
|>>|| No. 68827
I'm the angry lad who is apprently too far out to argue with, but I don't disagree with a lot of this post. It sounds to me like you're more of a nationalist than anything particularly racist, being more focused on culture than colour or geneology.
It has also shed a light on the responses - and I have come at this with a series of stereotypes which don't stand up. At all. Sorry.
>>68676 Is a drunken rant about the oddness of the underlying philosophy behind giving people a badge based on their genes and the specific way this is put into action by division and ethnic cleaving(?) within our experience of racist states.
The latter part of the post actually shadows what racislad above is talking about - Britain as a national is a cultural construct that he considers to be the best of national cultures. Therefore when he sees it being influenced and/or altered in 'negative' ways he looks for ways to stop this, by essentially 'turning off the tap' in this case and then allowing british culture to brew up good and strong in the population.
My question is, if this is the conservative, essentially negative reaction to the impact of immigration, is there a positive way to approach it instead?
|>>|| No. 68828
>>68827 My question is, if this is the conservative, essentially negative reaction to the impact of immigration, is there a positive way to approach it instead?
As a relentless bloody optimist, I feel that:
No society / culture is perfect yet
They're all changing / evolving / improving.
Forcing all cultures to be like the one you favour, on the grounds that it's (to you) currently the most perfect, risks killing off an evolutionary path that may yet deliver a culture that's better.
Let cultures grow on their own, nick the good bits if you like, and smack down those that try too hard to force themselves on others. Help the people, if not necessarily the structures, of those that are failing hard.
Eventually: better. Possibly best. Going to take a while.
|>>|| No. 68830
By which, I mean: If you're going to move to a culture, it should be because you want to join that culture, not build an enclave of your abandoned culture within it, or try to convert your new host culture to the one you abandoned.
I'm obviously going to be biased, and believe that my current culture stands a chance of developing into something better, possibly best, so I don't want to see it wiped out.
|>>|| No. 68847
But if I move out to an EDL stronghold, they will brick my windows, slash my tires, firebomb my community centre and maybe even stick poop or petrol into my mailbox.
My ethnic enclaves don't have those issues. I could leave my front door open and nobody would harm me. So why should I put myself in danger to appease a racist like yourself?
|>>|| No. 68848
Did I mention that I thought all current societies are imperfect?
However, are you saying that you'd not be able to assimilate anywhere, and that your choices are either to stick in an enclave, or wave your culture as hard as you can at EDLchaps to see if they'll give you a kicking? Because what I see of this country, gives you rather more options than that.
Of course, enclaving may be a fundamental part of your culture. In which case, I'd probably rather you(r ancestors) hadn't arrived, but I guess we'll try to make the best of it.
|>>|| No. 68853
Really mate? You would want me to be neighbours with the likes of you and cunts from this picture >>68851, just to prove to you how much I have assimilated into your mainstream culture? How about no?
|>>|| No. 68854
That's not nearly what he said, you don't need to look for things to get riled up about mate.
>It sounds to me like you're more of a nationalist than anything particularly racist, being more focused on culture than colour or geneology.
I would describe myself the same, but geneology plays a part - if you don't feel rooted in a nation how can you respect it fully? That's not to say everyone should be from Britain going back 500 years and if you're not then off to laplanderstan with you, just positing that having significant quantities of people without this background does a disservice.
I have no real issue with blacklads or brownlads personally, I can't help but feel they act like monkeys in groups though. Also Islam is a fucking mess of a religion and the world would be better off were it extinguished. Same would've been true of Christianity once upon a time, but at least it's 'grown up', whereas Islam is still mediaeval.
|>>|| No. 68856
I'd rather have you as a neighbour than seething away in an enclave thinking that everyone hates you, yes.
|>>|| No. 68864
I'm pretty sure they do. I would feel safer if we were allowed to be armed, like in the US, to be honest.
|>>|| No. 68865
>>68864 What fucking shithole do you live in? Move out to somewhere less horrible...
Unless, of course, you're the problem, and everywhere you go is strangely horrible and full of people who don't like you. In that case, maybe a bit of introspection is a better solution than arming yourself?
|>>|| No. 68867
No. I would much rather be armed and have the ability to stand my ground so that I can shoot racists like you when you step on my property or try to lob bottles at me for being brown. Maybe stop being a racist, and everyone would have a good time? No? Okay.
|>>|| No. 68868
I don't much care that you're brown. Be as brown as you like, just don't be a cunt.
|>>|| No. 68869
> so that I can shoot racists like you when you step on my property or try to lob bottles at me for being brown.
Check out this antifa.
|>>|| No. 68897
The Graun has effectively admitted they've lost the immigration argument by shutting down the comments, they're not a legitimate news outlet, just activists, on the same level as HuffPo now.
On an unbiased website you'd be called out as hard for linking the Graun as you would for linking to the Mail.
|>>|| No. 68900
False flag. It wouldn't surprise me if pro-rapefugee people made false rape claims before publicly retracting them to try and undermine the credibility of genuine victims of sexual assault.
|>>|| No. 68902
Remember to stretch before performing mental gymnastics, you don't want to pull anything. Y'know, like a load of bollocks out of thin air.
|>>|| No. 68903
Nothing surprises me, lad. Where I live I have seen people celebrating that a crime committed in an area with a high proportion of immigrants was perpetrated by a local person, as this meant they could rub it in the face of racists, so I wouldn't put anything past fringe lunatics.
|>>|| No. 68908
I like how when the story broke, the investigation was ongoing and the people that reasonably said "Let's wait to see the findings and let the police do their job" got called leftist scum because clearly they didn't care about a girl being raped.
|>>|| No. 68909
They were called leftist twats, and they were accused of covering up the kidnapping and rape of a girl. It sparked a lot of issues. It is really sad to see this kind of thing happening to be honest, and I have always wondered why people far away from from that situation take sides and import all those problems.
|>>|| No. 68919
For me, the whole incident simply didn't pass a smell test. She was a "Russian-German", and the story was broken by government mouthpieces in Russia with a track record of trying to paint Germany as a failed state.
|>>|| No. 68927
We don't have a continent. I'm not concerned at all with what goes on in Germany unless it implicates us. To that end I hope they come to their senses less we be influenced by the turbo-progressive attitude so many of them have.
There's a mental German I know who thinks Germany will go nazimode and then they'll all move to Calais and swarm Britain.
|>>|| No. 69009
Are you one of those dense cunts who wants us to leave the EU? It's 2016 mate, you can get the Eurostar from London to Germany for less money than taking the train in the opposite direction to Glasgow - stop pretending we're some marooned island unaffected by its surroundings.
|>>|| No. 69012
>you can get the Eurostar from London to Germany
I thought you still had to change in Brussels for that. Last I heard, there are plans for through trains to Germany but they've been delayed because the French are being French.
|>>|| No. 69022
Yes, I am. I don't care where you can get for a train ticket, Glasgow is in my country, Germany is not. Again, unless it's directly adversary I don't care. If Germany can't be fucked to protect its borders and we can, sod 'em. We do so.
|>>|| No. 69025
The rational and clearly expressed thoughts of the euro-skeptic.
Honestly I couldn't give a monkey's about Europe but my son communicates more coherently than you and he's two months old.
|>>|| No. 69026
Yep, you have to change to get to Glasgow too though. I was only comparing the price of the entire journey.
>Glasgow is in my country
Oh jocklad, I had no idea UKIP were doing so well up there.
|>>|| No. 69042
If you're struggling to understand that post it's you who needs lessons from your son mate.
|>>|| No. 69043
Oh I can decipher it, lad; it's just awfully, awfully badly constructed. Commas in the place of semicolons or simply where they're not needed. Incomplete sentences. The wonderfully confused jewel of "Again, unless it's directly adversary I don't care.". It's almost a perfect example of how not to communicate clearly.
|>>|| No. 69069
Your sentence construction is pretty shit, don't throw stones from your glass house lad.
|>>|| No. 69332
xhamster_s_ ? What is this witchcraft? Is that really what the top of a Kraut mobile xhamster session gets tagged with?
|>>|| No. 69333
I've tried it on my phone and the tab is down as xHamster's kostenlose Han...
|>>|| No. 75945
After the 'teenage' axeman on the train, who they've since said probably came from laplanderstan rather than being a genuine refugee, there's now some mad mullahs with guns on the run in Munich. It's all so depressingly predictable.
|>>|| No. 75950
All this Moselman violence is so pointless. There doesn't seem to be any political aim, and it doesn't even make any sense within the context of the religion. In the mean time it gives politicians a carte blanche to continue ramping up the Big Brother shit.
I don't want to watch the news any more. It's all just incomprehensible madness. The chattering classes don't help, having gotten completely lost up one another's arseholes. I suppose we can include ourselves amongst them.
|>>|| No. 75951
>It's all so depressingly predictable.
Yet somehow nobody actually predicted it.
|>>|| No. 75953
Nobody predicted that Mama Merkel's invite could lead to importing terrorists into Europe?
|>>|| No. 75954
I seriously doubt attacks wouldn't be happening if refugees weren't let in.
|>>|| No. 75970
All these terrorists attacks committed by people born in whatever European country they attack has to do with globalism. Mass movement of people isn't something new. There were pockets of Muslims living in Russia, Poland, USA, France, Spain, UK, and many more European countries for ages without anything like this happening. I think globalism dilutes the connection people would feel for the place they are born in and brought up in. It strengthens the bonds that some white Englishman would feel for a Frenchman but completely disrupts the communal bonds shared by an the white English lad and a brown one. That really isn't helpful.
It leaves people who really "aren't" French or British stranded and without an identity. So they seek out an identity. Anyone can be a Muslim. Especially those that seek redemption, since they apparently make the best of Muslims.
Globalism disrupts natural integration.
|>>|| No. 75971
The reasons these attacks are happening are manifold. Globalism could well contribute, like modernity does, to a lack of identity (look at Turkey). You also have economic frustration and historical grievances that can be exploited, and many more issues that vary from place to place.
|>>|| No. 75980
>Ali Sonboly, 18, was "obsessed" with mass shootings and may have planned his attack to coincide with the fifth anniversary of far-right extremist Anders Breivik's Norway massacre, prosecutors said.
>He also owned a stash of literature about shooting rampages, including a book entitled "Rampage in Head: Why Students Kill."
>According to German newspaper Bild.de, classmates said he had even used an image of Breivik as his profile picture on the social media network WhatsApp.
So the shooter is German-Iranian, but has links to Breivik. So a non-white white supremacist? It's all a bit Dave Chapelle.
|>>|| No. 75981
Yeah, it would appear he was a Muslamic and a terrorist but not actually a Muslamic terrorist.
|>>|| No. 75982
Persians classify themselves as Aryan and therefore white.
They're an imperialist people like Assyria which can create some angry shouting if you make a mistake. A safer experiment on this effect can be done by going into your local kebab house and calling the Turks working there Arabs.
|>>|| No. 75986
Yeah, they must be talking nonsense. Clearly this guy was a radical muzzer carrying out orders from Raqqa. The fact that they haven't actually claimed responsibility for it and he hasn't had any contact with them obviously don't change anything.
|>>|| No. 75990
What? No. I think the opposite of that. I'm pointing out that these two saw that he is of Iranian stock and have starting talking about it as though it is significant, when there is no evidence to suggest it. It's casual dolphin rape, and it's similar to when >>75945 jumped to the conclusion that the shooting was carried out by "mad mullahs".
|>>|| No. 75993
>I'm pointing out that these two saw that he is of Iranian stock and have starting talking about it as though it is significant
No. I'm the poster of >>75981 and that's the exact fucking opposite of what I was saying, you utter mongtard.
|>>|| No. 75995
Actually Persian does have significance since both of us were responding to >>75980 which brought it up.
Did you get all giddy that you could finally use the line that it doesn't matter who the killer was?
|>>|| No. 75997
I like the fact that some of the people he was shooting kept calling him a dirty Turk, and he shouted back that he was German.
It was perfect. Really captures western society.
|>>|| No. 76034
There's nothing yet to indicate either of these incidents are linked to extremism.
|>>|| No. 76036
Sorry, I meant to say dem fuckin muzzas is sullying our beautiful Aryan country. A whole two out of hundreds of thousands of Syrians have done some bad stuff so they are all extremists and it's time to kick em all out back to the bombed-out husk that is their nation.
|>>|| No. 76037
When will people learn that parodying the working class and their concerns for their safety only drives the working class further to racist parties like the BNP and UKIP and doesn't, believe it or not, suddenly make them go 'oh wow I must be stupid I'll vote Labour next time' ?
|>>|| No. 76038
Have you been deliberately burying your head in the sand over the last few weeks because it doesn't suit your narrative?
|>>|| No. 76044
ISIS have claimed the suicide bomber was one of their lads. They might as well, it's not like he's going to be able to dispute it.
|>>|| No. 76047
The first story raises an interesting question that has been on my mind all day: If I plough into a machete-lad to stop him do I get some sort of rebate to cover the cost of repairs, perhaps in the form of reward money from the city?
I'm just thinking aloud about what that will do to my insurance.
|>>|| No. 76048
I think you'd do alright if you started a JustGiving page. You'd never have to buy a round of drinks again.
|>>|| No. 76049
I guess public goodwill would compensate you but rare as such scenarios are you might also think some kind of state compensation would come forward for acts of heroism.
Maybe its for the best though. We wouldn't want to see mobs of poor people running into burning buildings.
|>>|| No. 76050
>We wouldn't want to see mobs of poor people running into burning buildings.
|>>|| No. 76051
Another attack as two men slice the throat of a 92 year old priest in France.
But there's no problem here.
|>>|| No. 76052
Half a dozen incidents perpetrated by darkies in a month across Europe. What's that compared to 6000 incidents perpetrated by whites in Britain alone?
|>>|| No. 76053
How do you know they were all white lad?
Also, how many white people have killed people in the past few months in these incidents?
|>>|| No. 76054
Also stop calling them darkies you disrespectful cunt. Being dark skinned doesn't mean you're a Muslim and don't call them that anyway.
|>>|| No. 76055
So out of curiosity what do you consider 'the problem' and what do you propose as the 'final solution' to this problem?
|>>|| No. 76056
I know you think you're being clever by throwing in final solution as some sort of reference to the attempted genocide of the Jewish people and trying to correlate somebody finding problem in the recent attacks as some sort of Nazi but it won't work and it's incredibly juvenile.
It reads like a year 10 attempt at being clever and it will be treated as such.
|>>|| No. 76057
Says the racist who thinks half a dozen people of one religion is a problem while thousands of hate crimes are not.
|>>|| No. 76058
I never said anything about a religion being the problem and I wasn't the one conflating brown-eyed people (who you called a derogatory term) with being Muslims.
Utterly bizarre post. I was being a bit facetious suggesting you spoke like you were in year 10. The erratic nature of your posts and upset that some are finding a problem with citizens being routinely slain and then suddenly drawing parallels to the death of 6 million Jews makes me start to think you might actually be around that age.
Nice strawman, too. Hate crimes are a massive problem and largely embarrassing for what should be one of the world's best multicultural societies. I'm yet to hear of anybody dying though, and am concerned that hundreds keep dying across the continent for one reason or another.
I wonder if this is how you speak to people in real life?
'There might be a problem here'
'FUCK OFF RACIST TRYING TO GAS THE MUSLIMS ARE WE?'
|>>|| No. 76061
Sorry sir. I know it's not funny to make jokes about that sir. Please don't tell my mum sir. Can I please still play rugby against the fifth form this afternoon sir?
|>>|| No. 76062
>you spoke like you were in year 10
You must be thinking of someone else.
|>>|| No. 76063
He said something like he was of the age of somebody in that year at the time of that post.
Makes perfect sense.
|>>|| No. 76069
Obviously not, that's why the post says
>Hate crimes are a massive problem and largely embarrassing for what should be one of the world's best multicultural societies.
|>>|| No. 76071
Yet he appears to want to diminish thousands of incidents perpetrated by white folk in favour of demonising a religion for the actions of half a dozen nutters.
|>>|| No. 76073
Where does the post do that mate? Where does it even mention that religion is the problem? It doesn't. You're just shouting racist over and over and using buzzwords like 'demonise'. Demonise who? The only person I've seen be a cunt so far is the person equating all brown-eyed people to muslims and thinking that, even ironically, it's somehow okay to call them darkies.
I don't know how you cope outside of here.
|>>|| No. 76075
You do know the whole "be racist while accusing anyone who calls you out of being racist" thing isn't working, right?
|>>|| No. 76076
I've lost which part of the mental gymnast move you're on now. It is racist to call people darkies. Yes, it's also racist to assume brown-eyed people are automatically muslims.
No hate crimes are not okay and are great stain on society, but we should be concerned that several attacks, carried out by people with not too indifferent motives (minus the German kid who was bullied) keep occuring in relatively stable, peaceful societies. This isn't a problem with mainstream Islam, but with extremist Islam. That's not the whole religion, that's a sect of it.
There is a problem with it though and it needs addressing.
Can't spell it out anymore clearer for you. No doubt you'll just call me a racist like a year 10 student again and suggest I'm calling for genocide and I'll give up trying to speak with a child and we can all move on.
|>>|| No. 76078
>I've lost which part of the mental gymnast move you're on now.
Bit rich coming from you, m7.
>No doubt you'll just call me a racist like a year 10 student again
Says the racist teenlad reacting to being called out by calling everyone else racist. Remember that time the Gay Racist In Chief tried to claim his party weren't racist because they were opposed to all immigrants? That's what you're doing here.
|>>|| No. 76079
We should never have joined that war against the Ottomans. The whole region just hasn't been the same since.
|>>|| No. 76080
I have no idea what you're talking about? What was said is racist.
Would you call people darkies in real life? No you bloody wouldn't, why are you trying to convince me that I'm racist for being concerned over radical Islam and hate crimes but you're not by calling people darkies?
This is like a triple bluff, you said something racist, I said it was racist, now you're saying I'm trying to convince everybody you're racist and I'm not.
Honestly, I'm done here, but I do wonder how you cope outside of internet hugboxes.
|>>|| No. 76081
>What was said is racist.
Yes, you're right. Picking on half a dozen isolated incidents over the course of several weeks and saying "this might be a problem" on the basis that the perpetrators were Muslim immigrants is indeed racist. I'm glad you can finally get to accepting that.
|>>|| No. 76083
Just read the church attackers shouted 'Daesh'. I thought that term was supposed to be offensive to ISIS? Are they not really linked to ISIS or just really crap at being loyal?
|>>|| No. 76084
It's the "open franchise" thing they have going where they say "no need to ask, just take our name anyway". They're also known to have taken responsibility for random nutters, such as the truck in Nice or that one with the axe a couple of years ago.
|>>|| No. 76086
They said on the radio that it happened during mass and they made the priest kneel in front of the worshippers before beheading him whilst filming it.
They are seriously cheeky scamps. Then again, there was a fair bit of torture during the Bataclan siege but that was kept quiet at first.
|>>|| No. 76089
What the fuck, pretty outrageous they kept that under wraps. I am slightly confused. How did they have time to castrate people? I'd imagine it'd be so manic you'd be shooting or being shot at.
|>>|| No. 76090
I imagine it's something you'd get fairly adept at with a bit of practice.
|>>|| No. 76092
>‘I specify, for the sake of clarity: some of the bodies at the Bataclan were extremely mutilated by the explosions and weapons, to the point that it was sometimes difficult to reconstruct the dismembered bodies.
>‘In other words, injuries described by this father may also have been caused by automatic weapons, by explosions, or projections of nails and bolts that have resulted.’
And why do you find this explanation dubious enough to suspect a cover-up?
|>>|| No. 76093
You're the one using the word 'cover-up'. I don't know about you, lad, but genitals don't generally end up in mouths by themselves.
|>>|| No. 76094
FWIW, ISIS also seem to be winning the propaganda war, given that people who do crazy shit in their name, or are claimed for them after the fact, get an awful lot of attention, while not very much attention has been given to the fact that back in I and S they've been losing ground for months.
|>>|| No. 76096
We should start a gay pornographic movie series where in some scene halfway through the stars pledge allegiance to ISIS. The pledge scene will be kept under wraps so when ISIS comes out to disown it everyone can go 'how did you knw bout dat den m8 ;)' over twitter.
>They are seriously cheeky scamps. Then again, there was a fair bit of torture during the Bataclan siege but that was kept quiet at first.
That was a fake story spread by a right-wing website on the day of the Nice attack.
|>>|| No. 76097
Whether they win or lose territory thousands of miles away isn't of any particular concern to most people.
|>>|| No. 76098
Tell that to the people getting killed and maimed in the attacks carried out in the name of the rascals from Raqqa.
|>>|| No. 76099
People will be killed and maimed in those attacks regardless of whether ISIS lose territory, so I'm not sure what your point is.
|>>|| No. 76100
Definitely a trustworthy story from the publishers of "Miracle after woman with chronic migranes cut out two ingredients from her diet".
|>>|| No. 76104
Yeah. Islamist terrorism has been going on for longer than ISIS have been around, you know.
Retaking Al-Raqqah won't be followed by everyone sympathetic to the cause saying "aw shucks, guess that's violent Islamism out of commission".
|>>|| No. 76107
It will, however, make it much harder for lone wolves to paint themselves as "Islamic soldiers".
|>>|| No. 76110
Is this how people in the 80s felt about Irish related terrorism?
I'm not so much scared as I am just bloody fucking sick of hearing about it.
|>>|| No. 76111
The thing about the Irish related terrorism is that it was happening close to home and happening regularly. It certainly put you off doing your Christmas shopping down Oxford street.
I imagine people in France and Germany are probably feeling the same way right about now.