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>> No. 79921 Anonymous
10th November 2016
Thursday 2:39 pm
79921 Anglo BLOOD
https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/2152021/russell-brand-and-laura-gallacher-name-baby-daughter-mabel-but-plan-to-raise-the-tot-gender-neutral/

>The pair are hoping to raise the tot free of societal expectations of her assigned sex from birth
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>> No. 79932 Anonymous
10th November 2016
Thursday 4:22 pm
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That's really the only sensible way to raise a child. They'll express their gender on their own, if you force it down their throat it'll only encourage them to rebel.
>> No. 79933 Anonymous
10th November 2016
Thursday 4:24 pm
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Bit of a leap isn't it? He once said he was thinking about it.
>I’m thinking of calling him or her. We don’t know the gender I may not even ever impose a gender upon it, let the child grow up and be the whatever the hell it is, never tell it there is such a concept.”
>> No. 79935 Anonymous
10th November 2016
Thursday 4:57 pm
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As long as they don't delibarately try push the gender of the child towards the oppersite to prove a point that gender is just a social construct, good for them.


People have been really emotionally fucked up by scientists trying to prove gender is nurture not nature over the years. They are some of the most ethically questionable studies since Mengele, and have repeatedly resulted in faliures that aren't properly acknolledged because it has less to do with science and more to do with post-structuralist beliefs.
>> No. 79942 Anonymous
10th November 2016
Thursday 5:15 pm
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>>79935
>oppersite
>acknolledged
Lad, what the fuck?
>> No. 79943 Anonymous
10th November 2016
Thursday 5:19 pm
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Every time I read these stories it's a boy they dress as a girl, never the other way around. It's almost as if the mother is disappointed she didn't have a daughter and is consequently forcing appearing like a girl on their son.
>> No. 79961 Anonymous
10th November 2016
Thursday 10:17 pm
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>>79935
Performed gender is a social construct. People really misunderstand these concepts when doing their little checkmate feminists routine.
>> No. 79962 Anonymous
10th November 2016
Thursday 10:29 pm
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>>79961
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2043345/The-California-boy-11-undergoing-hormone-blocking-treatment.html


The little boy who started a sex change aged eight because he (and his lesbian parents) knew he always wanted to be a girl

Parents say it's better for Thomas to have sex change before he is adult


Checkmate feminists.

They should jail those two cunt women.
>> No. 79966 Anonymous
10th November 2016
Thursday 11:54 pm
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>>79962
Kid will kill himself before britfa dies.
>> No. 79968 Anonymous
11th November 2016
Friday 2:47 am
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>>79961
>Performed gender is a social construct

No, take your John Money disproven bullshit and shove it up your arse.

https://web.archive.org/web/20000815095602/http://www.pfc.org.uk/news/1998/johnjoan.htm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Money#Sex_reassignment_of_David_Reimer
>> No. 79971 Anonymous
11th November 2016
Friday 3:29 am
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>>79968
We've had this argument before. One nutter does not disprove the wealth of scientific research on the matter of gender reassignment.
>> No. 79977 Anonymous
11th November 2016
Friday 11:22 am
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>>79976
>The entire argument that 'gender reassignment works' wasn't built off of the false claim that it had worked for the nutter.
>Literally that is where the majority of the data it works even comes from
hmm...
>> No. 79978 Anonymous
11th November 2016
Friday 11:29 am
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>>79977

Sorry I went back and edited my sentance and didn't correct, I had started with an 'If' I'll repost.
>> No. 79980 Anonymous
11th November 2016
Friday 11:32 am
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>>79971

IF the entire argument that 'gender reassignment works' wasn't built off of the false claim that it had worked for the nutter. Literally that is where the majority of the data it works even comes from, until the point that the test subject came forwards and said it was all bollocks.


There is also the little detail that males (XY chromosomes) with inverted penises that have been treated as women all their lives all behave like men and the majority seek to change there gender to be men. But hey, never let facts get in the way of good politics now.

http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/Press_releases/2004/01_21_04.html
>> No. 80030 Anonymous
13th November 2016
Sunday 1:10 pm
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>>79968
I'm not sure what this has to do with anything. The child was a boy forced to live as a girl. His innate gender was being denied. This is distinct from performed gender, how genders act (or are pressured to act), roughly speaking the concepts of masculinity and femininity.

John Money's work is so compromised it can't be said to have any scientific value in proving or disproving anything.
>> No. 80033 Anonymous
13th November 2016
Sunday 5:08 pm
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>>80030
>I'm not sure what this has to do with anything. The child was a boy forced to live as a girl. His innate gender was being denied. This is distinct from performed gender, how genders act (or are pressured to act), roughly speaking the concepts of masculinity and femininity.

>Performed gender
You keep using that term, I do not think it means what you think it means.


The study linked in >>79980 contradicts your position "All 16 had interests and attitudes that were considered typical of males." (These are all XYs, raised as women).

It really is a statement that gender is nature rather than nurture. Which makes it performative not performed.


>John Money's work is so compromised it can't be said to have any scientific value in proving or disproving anything.

I agree, but large amounts of the academic argument that gender is performed, and decisions that have affected the upbringing of children were made off of it. It is only recently that has started being corrected in the medical profession to essentially the exact opposite of what the 'gender studies party line' is.
>> No. 80034 Anonymous
13th November 2016
Sunday 8:13 pm
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Fucking hell does it really have to be so complicated. I doubt a baby is going to take offence to the room décor or later on its going to notice wrong pronouns when its primary function in life is to play playstation and consume sweets. Maybe as a teen it will be like "hang on a second, I really like pissing sitting down" but then she would be aware of gender so those things can be dealt with more straightforwardly without a teenage girl having gender explained to her by Russell Brand.

Plus what if your son wants to play with a doll, I agree you'd have to be a right baddie to object but its also weird if you think it either means something when kids tend not to give a fuck. What if he just likes girls toys because he is a bit of a poof for example. Come to think about it I liked playing with a toy Romulan Warbird when I was 6 what does that mean?

Childhood is supposed to be a simple time but thinking about this is making me want to have a lie down for a bit.
>> No. 80035 Anonymous
13th November 2016
Sunday 8:23 pm
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>>80034
When I was a young boy, I asked my parents for a Barbie and a Shave-Me Ken for Christmas, and they obliged even though they were girl toys. When I was a bit older, I used to wear nail varnish on my toenails, and play with make up. I grew up to be a macho heterosexual man with no homosexual inclinations, so I guess if it didn't fuck me up it won't fuck Mabel Brand up.
>> No. 80037 Anonymous
13th November 2016
Sunday 9:14 pm
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>>80034

That's exactly what gets to me about these stories. It's never the kid deciding for themselves, after having a thorough decade or so of playing with barbies as well as action men to make up their mind. It's always the parents jumping on it when the kid shows an interest in wearing a dress or whatever and suddenly deciding IT'S OBVIOUS WE KNOW WHAT'S BEST FOR OUR CHILD.
>> No. 80039 Anonymous
13th November 2016
Sunday 11:16 pm
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>>80037

I think you're seeing a pattern that isn't there.
>> No. 80043 Anonymous
15th November 2016
Tuesday 12:36 pm
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>>80034
>I liked playing with a toy Romulan Warbird when I was 6 what does that mean?
It means you're a little susse'thrai
>> No. 80044 Anonymous
15th November 2016
Tuesday 2:47 pm
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One of my earliest memories was demanding to dress up like a cat. My grandma even made a tail for me. I ran around Tescos for a bit while my grandparents did their shopping, then got bored and probably played cowboys and Indians with my Grandad after that.

I feel like in these modern times, they might have felt the need to encourage me to be a cat more frequently, so as not to damage my identity. And then I'd be a furry right now.
>> No. 80046 Anonymous
15th November 2016
Tuesday 5:40 pm
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>>80044

As a furry, I feel like I would have grown up a more mentally well adjusted individual had I been able to dress up as animals frequently as a child; instead of carrying forward a repressed desire and projecting it sexually in adulthood. Adding to my frustrations are the social acceptability of women wearing "cute" cat ear accessories and such which as a male I envy thoroughly.

All power to those fruity LGBT types who say you should be who you are no matter what people think of you, but they have no idea the kind of stigma a grown man faces if he wishes to walk around dressed as a fox; beyond the clusterfuck of wierdos that is a furry convention. It's not fair and I don't see any SJW cunts fighting for my rights.
>> No. 80047 Anonymous
15th November 2016
Tuesday 5:54 pm
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>>80044
I refer you to >>/iq/55475.
>> No. 80049 Anonymous
16th November 2016
Wednesday 12:17 pm
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I accidently opened the Furry Pandora’s box of my girlfriend.

She used to have some lace ears that are quite cute and sexy, I encouraged her to wear things like that more. Now in the last 7 months she has bought enough tails collars and ears to necessitate an entire clothing rack devoted to them and wears them everywhere. I don't think it is a problem apart from she is spending more than she probably should on it all.
>> No. 80052 Anonymous
16th November 2016
Wednesday 5:23 pm
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>>80049
Are those tails connected to buttplugs?
>> No. 80053 Anonymous
16th November 2016
Wednesday 5:29 pm
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>>80046
Was anyone really stopping you as a child? I mean a 6 year old meowing at me (in the right context) doesn't seem like cause for alarm.
>> No. 80054 Anonymous
16th November 2016
Wednesday 6:02 pm
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>>80053

Well nobody was really stopping me, it just wasn't something that was easily done. You would have thought they'd at least make a Disney Robin Hood dress up kit or something, but no. I didn't have a grandma who kindly made a tail like the other poster, instead I just had to make do with my disappotingly human Captain Scarlet uniform (which was nevertheless pretty fucking sweet it must be said).
>> No. 80055 Anonymous
16th November 2016
Wednesday 6:33 pm
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>>80052

Some of them are, most of them aren't.
>> No. 80072 Anonymous
18th November 2016
Friday 9:22 pm
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>>80054

Maybe that's the difference. Since I was kindly provided a tail the novelty wore off quickly. If I had spent my childhood dreaming of the day I could finally wear a tail, I'd have turned out very differently.
>> No. 80079 Anonymous
19th November 2016
Saturday 8:06 pm
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When I was a kid I realised my gender was Dalek. I used to run around the playground with my outstretched arm clenched fist on my head guturally proclaiming EX-TER-MIN-ATE. My friend had identified gender as a main battle tank and we had lots of fun.
>> No. 80135 Anonymous
20th November 2016
Sunday 11:09 am
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What a capital idea! Everyone should raise their children gender neutral in this inclusive and vibrant society... especially those wretched Aryans.
>> No. 80139 Anonymous
20th November 2016
Sunday 3:26 pm
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>>80135

I mean, I know you're a fascist and therefore have the same sense of humour as a rapid dog, but it seems like a child could be raised entirely free of gender norms, and still be taught to hate other races, no?
>> No. 80519 Anonymous
27th November 2016
Sunday 1:04 am
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>>80139

PASSIVE AGGRESSIVE ALERT
PASSIVE AGGRESSIVE ALERT
PASSIVE AGGRESSIVE ALERT
PASSIVE AGGRESSIVE ALERT

(A good day to you Sir!)
>> No. 80522 Anonymous
27th November 2016
Sunday 1:09 am
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>>80519

Actually I was being snarky, but it was a week ago so it has passed regardless.

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