>>17403

>In the case of the Buddhist temple, as far as I am aware they almost exclusively depend on donations and the monks in it are in no gainful employment of their own of any kind. So they need to accept money from those who engage in the daily struggle for their place in the world and have money to spare to support such a temple.

Buddhist monks in the Theravada tradition are actually forbidden from bartering, touching money, harvesting crops or slaughtering animals. Their monastery is owned by the lay community who chose to build it. They're allowed to ask for food, but they can only ask for a new begging bowl or robe if their old one is beyond repair. I believe the idea is to keep them honest - a monk who is totally reliant on the support of the lay community is probably less likely to act like a prick.

The real issue is that women are becoming more like men and men are becoming more like women.

In a couple of generations women seem to have lost the ability to cook and clean. A lot of them would struggle to do more than shove something in the oven or microwave.

The only times I've ever been threatened by violence on a night out is by women who can't handle their drink and think they're untouchable. Lasses these days are far worse and more vulgar than lads.

As for men? It's mentioned earlier in the thread that women are overly judgemental of one another but once men get going they can be worse than a bunch of old housewives. I also know plenty of lads who are completely and utterly whipped by their wives; they're the main breadwinners but still do the majority of the housework.

>>17410

Alright granddad, let's get you back into bed before you do yourself a mischief.

>>17407

Our stories are frighteningly similar.

One time I got an infection in one of my wisdom teeth and couldn't get any time off to go to the doctors, so I finally went in to A&E on a Saturday when my jaw was basically wired shut by the infection and got told if I'd waited much longer I would have kicked the bucket from septicaemia, which was nice. The next day (Sunday) I had to fly out to a client in Europe and on Monday morning the phoned the UK office to complain I was drunk (my jaw still wouldn't open so I was mumbling like a deranged fool no doubt).

My liver took so much abuse that my GP wanted to send me for a hepatitis test ("Your prostate is fine but I haven't seen a liver like this in years, do you share hypodermic needles or use any drugs beside alcohol?" being one of the best questions a doctor has asked me yet. (the fact I had to say "no Doctor" while I had the 2g of crystal I'd just picked up in my coat pocket was miserably ironic)).

Given another chance I don't know how much I'd be able to do differently. I always had a tendency to use uppers, and with uppers come the downers so that you can actually sleep (or at least pass out) when you get the chance.

I always had workaholic tendencies and I enjoyed my work, I think I should just have quit that job for something a bit less stressful a year or two earlier, got out when I was ahead sort of thing.

Luckily my health largely bounced back and other than treatment for bipolar depression the rest of my body (including my liver, amazingly) are all doing pretty well. Giving up all the drugs and the booze and taking up 12-15 hours a week of exercise instead is what's probably responsible for that, although paradoxically I would never have got to the position where I could pursue such a large amount of leisure time without putting in all that work in my twenties.

>>17409

>Buddhist monks in the Theravada tradition are actually forbidden from bartering, touching money, harvesting crops or slaughtering animals.

How convenient for them.

Yeah, David Cameron's shed was only about £20k. What kind of shed is this?

Shed-of-my-dreams, 20m by 10m, with 5m lean-to, to light industrial standards. That price doesn't include groundworks, floor or fitting out.
Time to rein in my ambitions a bit. Ah well.

>>423674
>20m by 10m

That's huge!

>>423674

Fucking hell, you could buy a warehouse that size for less than that.

That's what I'd quite like instead of a shed, I've looked at them before. Maybe rent or buy a farmer's spare barn or an ex-garage or something and turn it into a big weird man cave. I like the idea of it being hidden away on some back street, a place to go that isn't at the bottom of the garden is admittedly very impractical but very appealing to me.

>>423676
Yeah, moving from agricultural to light industrial standard multiplied the price by three. Extra insulation, sturdier beams, bigger footings. Will see if I can get closer to a sweet spot.
Buying a barn somewhere would be cheaper, but I really want this at home. I've rented places in the past, and it's just a pain, long term.

I just noticed that Total War: Empire, Napoleon and Medieval 2 have just had all their DLC given out for free. I think the only bits I didn't already own were Empire and Napoleon's secondary campaigns, but by Jove I love the smell of black powder in the morning, even if they do seem like the least popular games in the entire series according to everyone else. The naval battles are truly awful, I'll cop to that.

Also, while I'd like to give Counter Strike: Global Offensive: Danger Zone a go, I've never been very good at the twitchier end of the shooter market and many people, even some in this thread, have been playing CS for so long I'm always hopelessly out classed. However, I do like the idea of it and it seems like Valve have tried something slightly different, despite a lot of people dismissing it immediately. I understand Valve haven't done much for their public image over the last few years, and that card game they're working on looks like a bit of a rip off, but it is F2P after all so you can hardly accuse them of being greedy buggers.

>>22597

>I've never been very good at the twitchier end of the shooter market and many people, even some in this thread, have been playing CS for so long I'm always hopelessly out classed.

I'm really rather good at CS and was in the highest rank for a while when I played religiously - the good thing about CS and just about all of it's game types is that it's just as much about being in the right place and remaining undetected as it is about aiming. There's only so much practice any normal human can do on headshot flicks and the like, if you can aim for the head and control recoil even a little bit, you have a fighting chance.

I'm sure I'd be able to reliably beat you on one of the classic maps I've been playing forever, because I'd just know exactly where to go and which corners to shoot at. But I guarantee you have just as much of a chance as I do in an unknown map, or the new one on Danger Zone. If you get the drop on me I'll still die, if I miss the headshot and you don't I'll still die.

I'd also say that CS isn't quite as twitchy as your COD's and such - you don't gain anything by jumping all over the place like a distressed salmon like you see most people do in those games. The nature of how accuracy and spray patterns work in CS means you're more rewarded for controlled bursts while crouching or standing relatively still. I'd recommend trying it, I think you'll enjoy it if you're interested. If I'm wrong then I apologise.

>However, I do like the idea of it and it seems like Valve have tried something slightly different, despite a lot of people dismissing it immediately.

It seems like people who don't play CS:GO are dismissing it because it's Yet Another Battle Royale, though apparently some of the mode's assets have been found in the game files as early as last year, so they haven't rushed it out cynically.

And the existing CS:GO community is angry primarily because Valve has given everyone who previously bought the game a free Prime account, which before now was obtained by playing the game to a certain rank and keeping your 'trust score up', meaning you were a good, honest player by a few metrics - good teamwork, not being a hacker, etc. Everyone with Prime status could choose to match up with only other Prime players, which was an effective way of keeping you playing with good players. The concern is now that everyone has Prime who owned the game, and you can just pay ten quid to get it now, Valve has invited the russian hackers and mic spammers back into everyone's lobbies.

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>>22593
> Do you not know what a battle royale mode is by now?
I do and the first thing that pops up in my mind when I see BR and CS together is Slavic CSDM MEAT servers. 16 to 32 players on a map, every fool for himself.
Those were largely implemented by AMX/AMXX plugin engine, that's why I asked if the 'official' mode differs and what are the differences.
I have no idea why you'd think I'm cynical and/or aggresive about it.
> Doesn't sound like you have any intention of playing it anyway.
True. Just a pinch of mild interest.

This image more or less sums up the current state of Skyrim modders.

>>22625

It's always annoyed me a bit that some of the most open and modable games still on the market are overwhelmingly contributed to by creators that make hyper-detailed nude mods and tittymonsters.

And I don't even know what drives it. Does it count as a fetish? Sure it's nice to look at boobs, but you can do that in tons of games. They're all so hilariously tasteless and plastic too, it's hard to believe anyone derives any actual sexual gratification from any of it.

You don't get many games that touch Fallout for romping around a post apocalypse yet thematically authentic feeling mods are fairly thin on the ground past big expansion projects.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UHo7Ig7ieQ

It's a long shot but It's been bugging me for some years.
Either before or not long after 2000 there was a song with a greenish music video, seemed to deplict some kinds of 1984/futuristic all girls school with this song being something to rebel against it.
I can't for the life of me find it so I wonder if you lot could help me. As far as I can remember it had a rather dancy/electro feel to it.

>>11513
https://youtu.be/8mGBaXPlri8 this?

>>11514
No sadly, Fairly certain it was a guy singing. I hope this isn't some kind of Mandela effect and I've somehow jumped world lines.

>>11513
Go to reddit / tipofmytounge sub

This is what Jake Sisko looks like now. Bit weird, innit?

>>22476
Not really, but he does look like he's trying to be Avery Brooks Jnr, but I can't think of a good reason not to.

>>22476

Only in that he is immortalised as a teenager in my mind.

So has anyone else been watch watching STD lately or are we collectively ignoring it?

>>22531

Everyone in that series is awful, except for T'kuvma.

>>27900
It's all fucked. Before, during, and after every single day, I can't find a reason to have suffered through that day. You wake up to emptiness, you work through emptiness, and you come home to emptiness. It would be great if you could just have one sincere conversation with someone. I don't know if it's the same for you at uni, but where I work, it's all just pleasantries and fake smiles. There are people all around the place, moving their lips and making facial expressions, but none of them ever expressing anything they really think or feel to one another. Just sociopaths everywhere, playing pretend for 8 hours a day, 40 hours a week.

And then you go home, and there's not even the sociopaths any more. Just silence and emptiness and isolation, and still no sincere human interaction. It's absolutely maddening. Everything there is to live for loses its value when you exist in a vacuum.

>>27912
I feel like there are a lot of genuine connections at uni, but I'm just not part of any of them.

>>27912
You remind me a little of the sample used in

>>27909
>For a while he was in a polyamourous relationship and despite my many protests that him talking about how much sex he was having with multiple people really didn't make me, a virgin, feel very good about myself, he continued to talk about it.

No offence, and I've followed this thread for a while and you seem like a decent guy, but I can see why someone might decide this is more bother than its worth. Friends talk to friends about their relationships and sex-lives (at least in a general sense, at least to friends of the same gender). Even if he is understanding of your issues he's not going to feel like chatting to you when he feels like having a moan about his relationship troubles which, if he goes through a lot of drama, is going to be a lot of the time. That's not a choice he has made, it's a choice you have made.

Thought I'd posted in this thread before, but probably not. I lost it last year, mid 20s, she was younger.

See how this treats you:

Make a throwaway account on reddit and find some of the places where people post nudes anonymously (r/gonewild and its offshoots). Sort posts by new and look for the ones that get minimum attention from others. Send a message or comment - a compliment, an instruction, a little tale about what you would do if you were there with them. Almost all of your messages will be ignored, but persevere. Find someone you can be flirty back and forth with. Remember that you have the following on your side: age, accent, nationality, education. Try sending a flirty voice message maybe, or read something aloud on the audio section. Maybe just post a couple of pictures of your dick. Explore some of the different communities - curvy, hairy, over-30, mild. If you like, you can keep it impersonal, or ask about their hobbies and learn more about them.

The goal is to become comfortable complimenting and being overtly sexual with another person. If you send nudes and they respond favourably, then it should also be a confidence booster for when you eventually are naked with a partner.

>>27916

May not work for everyone, but I'll offer my take. For me, it's a combination of experience (knowing it's not the end of the world if it doesn't go well), and having other things to inform your sense of self-worth (finding reason to respect yourself even if it doesn't go well).

Some lads put this down to an "abundance mindset" or whatever stupid term they've come up with, but that's obviously a trap. That demands you devalue the people you're with by making sure you have a lot of other options, or convincing yourself you do. It will work, but it will be a pyrrhic victory.

What works better, I think, is trying to fully internalise that you're not any less of a person if you fuck up a date or fumble a bit.

There's probably a bit of your mind that's adding pressure, saying "I have to get this right or else I'm not really confident/a man/a worthy prospect etc." It's your job to quiet that voice down by giving real world examples of how, actually, you could live with and respect yourself even if the other person isn't interested.

That's normal innit. Just bitch up and learn to hide it. It's probably less obvious than you think anyway.

I think you're quite normal lad.

Breathing exercises.

Have a wank before you go out on the pull. If you've had a dry spell, get yourself down to 'spoons and shag some fat birds. It's stupid, but it works.

I think we'll know when Labour are serious about wanting to win an election by the speed with which she's sidelined.

>>62478
Mostly the latter, but the occasional former allows her and her party to bat away criticism and turn the tables on the accusers.

Diane Abbott has genuinely challenged my lefty-liberal prejudices. I'd honestly never seen someone play the race card before. I thought it was one of those Daily Mail myths, like asylum seekers getting free cars or Birmingham adopting Sharia law. She clearly gets a lot of racist abuse online, but she has conflated "people being racist against me" and "people pointing out that I'm a fucking idiot" to an extraordinary degree.

>>62480
Boy who cried wolf, innit. If you constantly accuse people of being racist when they're merely pointing out you're fucking clueless then people are less likely to believe you when people attack you because they're actually being racist.

iN A FEW YEARS, WHEN WE CAN deepfake-substitute in real time, it'll be fun to test these things out.
I do think that politicians should carry their baggage, though - rather than each sentence or interview standing on its own.

>>423614
>nothing weird

>>423615
She's fit and looks like she was a game girl.

There's something about her that seriously gives me the horn and there's nothing wrong with thinking about slipping her one.

>>423614

She looks a lot like a girl I used to go out with.

She always seemed the type to go and get herself murdered, too.

>>423616
>nothing wrong
>perfectly normal

yikes

(A good day to you Sir!)

>>423639

Blimey.

CBT is shit. Read up on its history in Britain and you'll learn that it was basically just a product packaged and sold to the NHS who, years and years ago, were looking for cheaper alternatives to traditional psychotherapy, which cost a lot of money and usually took place over months or even years with questionable efficacy. CBT promised concrete results backed up by studies—and, most importantly, it promised them in a handful of sessions at a fraction of the cost. This is why the NHS are so aggressive about promoting it. However, although CBT is indeed an effective short-term solution for a lot of people, there is precious little research indicating that CBT has any overall long-term effect. CBT is probably less useful these days than it used to be when it arose in the late 70s/early 80s because a lot of its content has entered the mainstream and become common knowledge. The idea that thoughts, feelings, and behaviour were linked was borderline revolutionary for the average person back then, although we consider it obvious now.

CBT is actually just a heavily diluted plagiarism of a much more robust ancient Greek philosophy called Stoicism.

>>27910
>CBT is actually just a heavily diluted plagiarism of a much more robust ancient Greek philosophy called Stoicism.

And why is this a problem?

>>27911
It's not. That was meant to be encouraging towards checking out Stoicism.

>>27910

>CBT is actually just a heavily diluted plagiarism of a much more robust ancient Greek philosophy called Stoicism.

To be slightly pedantic, it's really a systematised plagiarism of REBT. There are clear Stoic influences on REBT and CBT, but the Buddha was saying more or less the same things 200 years earlier.

CBT has the strongest evidence base of any psychotherapy and we know it offers substantial improvements to a large proportion of patients in the short-term. You're right to say that the long-term evidence is quite weak, but a treatment that works in the short-term is still very much worth having. The bigger issue IMO is that although there's reasonably strong evidence for CBT, we've never actually run clinical trials on the specific form of CBT delivered by IAPT services. The fact that CBT works when delivered by a clinical psychologist over 12 to 20 one-hour sessions doesn't tell us much about the benefits of six half-hour sessions with a Psychological Wellbeing Practitioner.

I've said this several times on .gs, but it bears repeating - the key to beating depression is to just keep trying. We have lots of effective treatments, but none of them work for everyone and we have no way of predicting which patient will respond to which treatment.

If you took SSRIs and they did nothing for you, try an SNRI or a tricyclic or mirtazapine. If you had psychotherapy and it didn't work out, consider whether the problem was just a mismatch between your needs and that particular therapist or that particular school of therapy. Getting some exercise or starting a new hobby aren't going to cure your depression, but they might offer a slight improvement in your mood that you can continue to build on. The principle of marginal gains comes into play - reducing your symptoms by 5% might seem insignificant if you're in the throes of a deep depression, but it becomes highly significant if you can find five or ten things that each give you a 5% improvement.

>>27914
I'm not sure you could call modern CBT a plagiarism of REBT so much as a revision or reworking of it, but perhaps that's what you were getting at with "systematised". I'd say Buddhism and Stoicism are really quite different. There's some overlap, but they're distinct enough outlooks that it would be doing a disservice to anyone who might want to learn about them to equate them with one another. The Buddha specifically stated that awareness was his teaching. This is the key idea of Buddhism—not to attempt to reframe reality as something other than what it is, not to get lost in a process of monitoring and engaging thoughts, but simply to experience true objective reality for the sake of experiencing it. In contrast, REBT, CBT, and Stoicism are all frameworks through which your goal is to alter your subjective perception of reality.

I do agree that a short-term treatment is better to have than not to have. I think maybe the best use for it is to smash through the learned helplessness barrier, to open those people up to the possibility of change who were previously so browbeaten by their mental health problem that they thought change impossible. But timing is critical. I think it should jumpstart an ongoing treatment that doesn't just end immediately after the workshops or whatever. Unfortunately, this is hardly ever how it works in practice. What tends to happen with the NHS is that they'll refer you to CBT and then leave you to your own devices. You'll have a good month and then you're back to how you were. But you're even worse off, because the novelty effect of the CBT has been spent and your mental health problem has immunized itself and you'll never get the same result or opportunity from it again.

The trouble is that nobody cares. It's a box-ticking exercise. If you go mad and kill yourself (or anyone else), the NHS will just shrug and say "we gave them the treatment". And that's the whole point of it—not really to help people, but to give themselves justification to redirect blame for other people's health predicaments back to them, all the while saving precious money but not actually doing what they exist to do in the first place.

I agree with your last couple paragraphs, too. You should exhaust all avenues that are open to you—particularly if you're at the point where you're attempting suicide. What have you got to lose? Might as well go nuts. Try all the legit options as well as the batshit crazy ones. You can read some oddly specific stories about curing depression online. Stuff you'd never even think of, like tiny dietary changes that make no sense intuitively.

>>22514
There's only one sequel except they numbered it Starship Troopers 3 for some reason.
It's not as good as the first but it's still enjoyable. The focus is slightly different as it's more about religion and entertainment as a medium of control rather than the original purer fascism. You can see this as it missing the point or see it as just trying to do something fresh and more up to date than the original.

>>22519
There are two threads of two sequels each. There are two film sequels, and two animated sequels that disregard the films (understandable given that by almost unanimous agreement ST2 was shit).

I'm working my way through There She Goes on iPlayer. It's created by Shaun Pye, one of the co-creators of Money Dust, and is based on his experiences of raising a daughter with severe learning difficulties. It's good, but not great.

>>22520
Gor blimey, so they made another animated flick?
I can't remember anything outstanding about ST4 but nor can I call it bad.
But then, I very rarely watch stuff, perhaps my quality requirements are subpar.

I've been working my way through the Strike Back series because it is 100% easy watching, no thinking required, it's the pinnacle of lads tv and it's even better when you're high.

>>84802

I don't think Labour stand any real chance of breaking the deadlock. There's a modest possibility that they could squeak a GE victory, but their chances of taking a useful majority are infinitesimal.

Polling suggests that a second referendum would give a remain result by a fairly comfortable margin, but the political fallout of revoking article 50 would be pretty dire. Frankly, I don't know where we can possibly go from here. FPTP has led us down a blind alley.

https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/j09xvmg215/PeoplesVoteResults_190116_SnapPolling_w.pdf

>>84795
Care to explain? Because I can tell you i can fly but without proofs and facts it's just my imagination.

I think Labour/Corbin won't get anything done because in the end they have the same agenda, EU was clear with May after sealing the deal , it's that or nothing , how Corbin will manage to get a better deal in a couple of months? He has not credibility.
And let's stop repeating "EU needs more from us than us from EU" that's completely bollocks and debunked by economists.

>>84809
Corbyn won't do anything because leaving with no deal suits his purpose.

>>84809
>EU was clear with May after sealing the deal , it's that or nothing

Just jumping in to say that the actual line was this is the deal we're getting based on the red lines we came in with. The most consistent Labour argument I've heard is scrapping the immigration control for customs union which would be wholly consistent with EU pillars.

>And let's stop repeating "EU needs more from us than us from EU" that's completely bollocks and debunked by economists.

I'd say it is equally dangerous to play up the EU as a merciless poker player eyeing our trousers. Everyone just wants to get a workable deal and the sides are close allies whose fates are irrevocably tied no matter what happens.

It'll be interesting in a few months if we're out electing people to European Parliament.

This one is my favourite.

>>84751
>How the fuck can you be president and not even get your clothes fitted?
Due to the shutdown his care workers are on furlough.

>>84774
"Yeah let's light the candles, make it look classy"

>>84800
It's like a film where a 10-year-old boy swaps brains with the president and has to bluff his way through hosting a function at the whitehouse. Meanwhile the sleazy property tycoon is selling his pokemon cards and working on a plan to swindle his kindly aunt and uncle out of the family home.

>>84801
Vincent Adultman in the flesh.

>>22385
Duuuh nuuuh nuh - duhnuhnuhnuhnuh, nuhnuhnuh

>>22386
Mah nà mah nà, di-dee bi-dee-di.

So we're just letting the Irish post here now?

did he really believe trump was trying to kill him? i really couldn't pay attention to him anymore with all his anti trump shite.

(A good day to you Sir!)

>>22344
Danny Dyer's let himself go.

I'm struggling with the turn in the weather. It is too fucking cold.

>>423655
I completely agree. Now comes the real struggle of getting out of bed in the morning for work.

Is it just me or are people a lot smellier than they used to be? Not necessarily bad smells, just... more and stronger smells.

>>423657
I've noticed it lately myself but just put it down to bad Christmas gifts. The lifts at work reek of perfume.

>>423657
I wonder if it is the time of year, or the weather - I also found I could smell everything the past couple of days.

>>421447
In Russian, the country is called Германия, but its citizens are called немцы. Германцы, on the other hand, refers to Germanic tribes.

>>421529
Жуст ми? Хау дысаппойнтинг...

майт аз велл вен - cпурдо спадре ЕбИН хД

оу. этот тред еще жив.
Привет Вам из Киева.

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omg. This thread is still alive.
Greetings from Kiev.

>>423644
>Киева

Київa, конечно? КАТЦАП ОБНАРУЖИЛ))))))))))))

>>423654
Ah damnit, I forgot to use the accusative case. I really am terrible at languages.

He's at it again.

https://twitter.com/andyserkis/status/1085447426616541186

>>62473
It's been quite the week for going over old material.

>>62474
Do you think he knows he is famous?

>>62475

He does. He's tried to sue various media outlets for calling him marple, which is probably fair enough.

>>62475
I reckon he's counting on it. Who at this point would dare to resist his muscle measurement advances, the more you'd struggle the marpler he'd get.

>>27022
There's an XKCD for everything!

>>27022
That kind of fantasy world actually gets me a bit hard.

>>27025

GDPR m8. Your consent is revocable at any time. If you've ticked a box saying "you can do what you like with my data", you've got the right to change your mind.

https://gdpr-info.eu/art-7-gdpr/

>>27019
Would you kindly explain what's going on on this picture?
Also the bloody bottle is half-empty.

>>27027
I believe it is something to do with a show called Rick and Morty.

>>423610
Did they teach you how to catch them though? You can hardly expect to skin them if you can't catch them.

>>423611

Not him but they never taught me anything remotely useful in cubs. I got hit by a firework the leader bloke set up wrong and got a cool scar on my arm, though.

Never bothered with scouts but I think they taught how to trap.

It's not hard to catch a rabbit, mind. You can basically shout at one until it dies of shock.

>>423612
It depends entirely on the group; there's a lot of pot luck. My son went to Scouts last night and he did ironing, cooking and washing up. Then again, they have done things like potholing, rock climbing and steering a narrow boat so it's swings and roundabouts.

>>423611
No, original poster here.
One of the leaders turned up with a dead rabbit. Don't know how he got it. The only thing that I actually learned from the shouting movement was how to masturbate and put up a tent.

>>423543
I don't really have problems with reconciling my or whoever else's place in the world. More so if it's war, of which my granddad told never to glorify one unless there's profit to be made.
I just feel inadequate, incompetent and infantile, and probably am.
Possibly lack of self-love and low levels of self-respect and that I was never taught about these things.

We don't have any, my genuinely autistic father and just plain anti-social mother have very negative outlooks when it comes to other people in general and for various reasons have very distant relationships with even their close relatives, leaving little chance for me to form any of my own. They are also seperated from one another, in case you had any idyllic images in your mind of their sneering being overcome with a love for one another.

>>423500

Granpa died with a rap sheet as big, bloody and varied as a copy of the Old Testament.

Pa was a closet homo, he married just to avoid social stigma. His HD was full of gay and pedo porn. I have some suspect that he was involved in some saville-style activities in his young age (both as giver and taker). May he burn slowly in Hell.

So, where do I start from?

>>423529
What did you granddad do?

>>423540
He was in the Wu Tang Clan

>>423542
You poor thing.