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|>>|| No. 3181
Red Bull look boss, as usual.
Mclaren looked shite in testing (but as of now as fast in practice at the first gp)
Ferrari look about the same.
Tyres probably key to the whole deal this year.
Anyone else watching?
|>>|| No. 9034
> The worst you could say about Hamilton is that's he's quite boring in that ultra-professional way
>I don't see how Hamilton's "smug and petulant" at all
BONO! BONO! THE TYRES ARE DEAD! WE'RE GONNA LOSE THE RACE!
Also he wangs on about social justice and being #blessed while paying literally no tax and giving nothing to charity. Also he called one of his exes a fat oompa loompa. Also he's mates with Justin Bieber. What kind of fucking monster would voluntarily spend time with Justin Bieber?
|>>|| No. 9035
To be fair to Lewis, Pirelli give him lower quality tyres. You know, because they're racist.
|>>|| No. 9036
Damn, imagine a racing driver going back and forth with his crew chief about his tires, what a bastard. As for the rest of it that's every successful sportsperson going and I think the amount of wealth being hoarded is grotesgue, but it's also perfectly run-of-the-mill and I don't see you leveling the same accusations at the rest of the grid. Do you think Russell won't be in Monarco five years from now?
Yeah, man, yeah, uh-huh, yeah.
|>>|| No. 9037
If you're in P6 and struggling through traffic, we can empathise if you start to get frustrated. If you're struggling for points in the championship, we can empathise if you get annoyed at your team for making a bad strategy call. If you're leading the championship by a mile, qualified in P1, led the whole race by a comfortable margin and you're still bitching and moaning, that's when you start to look like a bit of a prick.
Hamilton would be a lot more likeable if he committed to any aspect of his personality, but he won't. He wants to be the ultra-competitive driving machine who only cares about winning and the magnanimous victor who does it to inspire the kids. He wants to be the tax-dodging millionaire playboy and the socially conscious vegan equality activist. It all comes off as completely insincere.
Ricciardo knows he's a jammy bastard and is obviously having a whale of a time. Raikkonen is a grumpy bastard who just wants to knock off work and get on the sauce. Who is Lewis Hamilton? I don't know and I don't think that he knows.
It must sting that I don't like him, but he'll just have to console himself with his seven world championship trophies, his millions of pounds and his string of supermodel girlfriends.
|>>|| No. 9038
>led the whole race by a comfortable margin and you're still bitching and moaning, that's when you start to look like a bit of a prick
Stop watching F1. It is apparent that you are a bit thick.
|>>|| No. 9044
That's the real problem with Lewis Hamilton, his prominence invites opinions from people who don't have a clue about motorsport. I don't either, really, but I know I don't have a clue. I've also seen a lot of people online complaining that it's all the cars and the drivers don't matter, which I'd disagree with, but none of these people are watching a series with a closer BOP between cars so I don't see why they're bothered. There's always been rubbish cars and very good cars in F1.
|>>|| No. 9048
It's a driver's job to manage tyre degradation. If you're running in clean air, you've got an easier job of it than anyone else. If you're in a Merc, you've got an even easier job of it because of DAS.
Hamilton has surely worked this out by now, but he still throws a massive sulk when his tyres have the sheer temerity to be the same as everyone else's. >>9035 is obviously joking, but sometimes I wonder whether Hamilton half believes it.
He has won seven of the last eight drivers championships, but he's still not happy. He's still publicly slagging off Pirelli and his own mechanics. What more does he want? Does he think that Pirelli should reformulate the tyres so that he can dominate the sport by an even bigger margin? When your own team boss is saying that you're asking Pirelli to defy the laws of physics, maybe you should have a look in the mirror and consider whether you're acting like a spoiled fucking brat.
|>>|| No. 9049
Similar comments were levelled at Vettel when the Red Bulls were dominant. Hamilton is a bit of a whinge but I can't say I have a strong opinion of him one way or the other.
|>>|| No. 9050
His job is to whine to his team any time the car's not as fast as it could be, and to drive the resulting car as fast as possible. He seems to do these things quite well.
You hear his whining more because his radio gets broadcast more.
It irritates you more because reasons.
|>>|| No. 9051
Vettel was a prick until he had a stint in a shit car and grew up a bit. If this was 2013, I'd be slagging him off.
|>>|| No. 9068
He made it abundantly clear he wasn't interested and told people not to vote for him.
|>>|| No. 9069
Which shows just how boring the British public have become. Threatening legal action to be removed from the awards shortlist is infinitely more interesting than anything Hamilton has ever done. We saw a perfect opportunity to make a mockery of the whole thing and chose the totally dull option instead. No craic.
|>>|| No. 9070
Well, Mr. Charisma Andy Murray has won it three times. The British public are fucking idiots.
|>>|| No. 9072
The impression I get from Murray is that he's so dedicated to his sport that he is indifferent to, and maybe even resents, the personality/celebrity aspect of things.
|>>|| No. 9142
I don't know. I thought Hamiltons lap today was just perfect.
|>>|| No. 9144
It's actually worse than that because there's another layout right next to it that bypasses the whole thing. Bloody downforce, it ruined everything.
|>>|| No. 9145
I remember the old layout. It was actually fun to drive in the ancient F1 games. The hairpin was a bit less hairpinny and more like the MotoGP layout they've put in.
|>>|| No. 9146
Lewis and Mercedes absolutely ruled that race.
|>>|| No. 9166
Lewis Hamilton: "BONO, MY TYRES ARE DEAD"
|>>|| No. 9167
Sky blue, water wet, Mazepin spins out.
|>>|| No. 9168
Qualifying today had more red flags than a Soviet Victory Day parade. This is just embarrassing, and not just for the drivers.
|>>|| No. 9169
I'd ask "how did he ever get a Super license?", but I imagine that the FIA are quite keen on not being murdered by an oligarch.
|>>|| No. 9171
Is it a bad circuit for racing or what? I don't really follow Formula 1 much. I was watching the 24 Hours of Barrier v Man v Fog at the Nurburgring instead; now that's what I call a red flag.
|>>|| No. 9172
Pirelli decided to gimp the tyres, just like they have at the rally.
|>>|| No. 9173
How and for what reason? Surely they're not using new, shite eco compounds like they all do with road tyres now? (RIP AD08's)
|>>|| No. 9174
Formula 1 Management specifically ask Pirelli to provide tyres that rapidly lose performance as they wear, to force teams to take pit stops and think about tyre strategy. That's quite a tough job, particularly given the huge differences between tracks and the fact that the teams will try to push the tyres to their limit. The high sidewalls of the tyres combined with the very high cornering forces mean that the tyre carcass is placed under immense stress.
Pirelli are perfectly capable of making a super-grippy, super-tough tyre that will always last the whole race distance, but they aren't allowed to. They're specifically tasked with making a tyre that is difficult to manage, which inevitably creates the risk of tyre failure. Baku has a lot of very high-speed corners that put the most stress on tyres, but we also saw a spate of tyre failures at the similarly fast Silverstone last year.
|>>|| No. 9175
Why is F1 simultaneously the most boring and most interesting motorsport? It's bizarre. I assume the reason they want forced pit stops is so that cars actually trade positions sometimes?
|>>|| No. 9176
It's also worth noting that Pirelli issue guidance on how to use the tyres which the teams routinely ignore. Such as "inflate them to the correct pressure or they'll come apart under load".
|>>|| No. 9178
"This is a marathon, not a sprint."
— Lewis Hamilton, before immediately sending it up the escape road at turn 1.
|>>|| No. 9672
Am I mistaken or are the cameras at Silverstone rubbish? They all seem too low and too far away. I suppose you can't help the latter without some kind of massive jib which probably introduces a load of new issues, not least of all safety, but tackling the former would definitely ameliorate the issue.
|>>|| No. 9673
It was mostly the Dutch and other Europeans this time around.
|>>|| No. 9674
Silverstone is rubbish all round as a customer/visitor, unless you're in some corporate box affair. Even with those you have the ridiculous transport issues getting off the circuit at the end. The year I went it took 5 hours to get out the car park after the race - one of the commentators on Sunday mentioned it was still the case nowadays.
|>>|| No. 9676
I'm not well acquainted with F1, but I read that Verstappen has an aggressive reputation, and relies on that to control space he wouldn't otherwise be given, and Hamilton didn't back down. Is this accurate? If so, then from this one piece of information I deem him fully responsible.
|>>|| No. 9678
I think modern society is far too obsessed with apportioning blame in forensic detail.
Two drivers who are competing for the championship went for it and one of them came off much worse. Don't read too much into it; this is the first time there's been a close title race between drivers from two different teams since, what, Vettel and Alonso in 2012? People have forgotten they're supposed to fucking race each other.
|>>|| No. 9679
This incident was very much an unstoppable force meets immovable object scenario. If neither of them were going to back down, something was going to have to give. Ultimately, Lewis suffered a bit of understeer, which is a thing that happens. Were it not for that, I suspect he would have been up Max's inside and Max would been left with no choice but to leave space.
The 10-second penalty strikes me as a way of saying "This was a racing incident, but reel it in a bit, lads." In the end, they each took their own risk that didn't pay off.
|>>|| No. 9682
>this is the first time there's been a close title race between drivers from two different teams since, what, Vettel and Alonso in 2012?
No? Hamilton and Vettel shared the exact same points difference as Hamilton and Max now after the same number of races in the 2018 season (and only Vettel had suffered a retirement at that point).
|>>|| No. 9683
You still knew that Hamilton would inevitably run away with it.
|>>|| No. 9684
It was actually Hamilton who had a retirement and so Vettel was ahead on points. The 2017 season also saw Vettel ahead at this point with neither driver retiring.
|>>|| No. 9685
I was being irreverent, perhaps my conclusion didn't deviate enough from my analysis to be clear. Though I do agree with your wider point, it's almost always shared and there's almost always factors beyond direct control.
I was more wondering if it's true that Verstappen has that trait/reputation, and how that factors into the tactics of F1. It seems like a general advantage to be known as aggressive and be challenged less often.
|>>|| No. 9690
Verstappen does have a very silly aggressive streak, which is okay if you have nothing to lose. They almost crashed on 3 separate occasions throughout this season, and every time it came close, Hamilton backed out. It is naïve to be that aggressive when you are leading on points.
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