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>> No. 4917 Anonymous
30th July 2013
Tuesday 6:01 pm
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Sounds like the knob-jockeys need to man up.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/jul/30/liverpool-unacceptable-words-discrimination
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>> No. 8859 Anonymous
25th September 2019
Wednesday 3:42 pm
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>>8858
Oh, absolutely. I hold those half-witted, spaghetti slurping, dago dickheads in the highest of regards.
>> No. 8968 Anonymous
12th July 2020
Sunday 7:30 pm
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They've arrested the 12 year old who posted these.
>> No. 8991 Anonymous
10th November 2020
Tuesday 8:16 pm
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>Asked about the difficulty gay players in the men’s game faced in ‘coming out’ in the social media age, Clarke said: “If I look at what happens to high-profile female footballers, to high-profile coloured footballers, and the abuse they take on social media... social media is a free-for-all.”

>DCMS committee member Kevin Brennan MP later picked up Clarke on his choice of words, prompting an apology. “If I said it I deeply regret it,” Clarke replied. “I am a product of working overseas, where I was required to use the phrase people of colour. Sometimes I trip over my words.”
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-soccer-england-clarke/fa-chairman-clarke-quits-after-coloured-footballers-remark-idUKKBN27Q2TN

I get that 'coloured' is a bit old hat but I think half the problem is that nobody likes BAME because it's such a clunky and still strange grouping. Why are Black and Asian people not minority ethnic, are they more special?
>> No. 8992 Anonymous
10th November 2020
Tuesday 9:03 pm
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>>8991
fisherperson twitter is currently angry about a statue of the fisherperson Mary Wollstonecraft because she's naked in it. This would make sense except that statue of the fisherperson Mary Wollstonecraft was chosen over a clothed statue of the fisherperson Mary Wollstonecraft because the clothed one was designed by a man and fisherperson twitter didn't think that was fisherperson enough.
>> No. 8993 Anonymous
10th November 2020
Tuesday 9:19 pm
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>>8992
It's an objectively woeful statue, much like Greg Clark was quite a shit FA Chairman, in fairness. I think the misassumption that the Greeks and Romans never painted their statues has really hobbled sculptors, this one could do with a lick of paint anyway. It would really take the edge off the "everything must be interpretive and vague" thing a lot of artists can't help doing. Also it's apparently a sculpture for Mary Wollstonecraft rather than of her, which makes sense because I don't think she was a level 40 Wood Elf mage, but don't quote me on that.

A lot of Twitter fisherpersons give off the air of never having cummed. However, I blame their fellas' so what I just said isn't sexist. That's anti-Twitter sentiment by the way, I think women are great.
>> No. 8994 Anonymous
10th November 2020
Tuesday 9:27 pm
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>>8993
>I think the misassumption that the Greeks and Romans
Old statues look fucking awful with the original colour though, they remind me of garish fast food mascots. They are genuinely ugly.

>Also it's apparently a sculpture for Mary Wollstonecraft rather than of her
I've seen that argument made in a couple of places but if you look at its face it's clearly modelled on the paintings of her.

Fuck getting involved in the actual debate.
>> No. 8995 Anonymous
10th November 2020
Tuesday 9:32 pm
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Look at this prick. Don't you just want to slap whatever-the-fuck this expression is off its face?
>> No. 8996 Anonymous
10th November 2020
Tuesday 9:34 pm
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>>8995

Is this for David Mitchell?
>> No. 8997 Anonymous
10th November 2020
Tuesday 9:36 pm
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>>8996
Yeah and here's Robert Webb.
>> No. 8998 Anonymous
10th November 2020
Tuesday 9:39 pm
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>>8994
>they remind me of garish fast food mascots.
In 2,500 years I wonder if they'll have completely sun bleached versions of pic related in their museums? Also I'm not saying we have to paint statues just like the peoples of antiquiety, just that the option to paint them should be there.

>if you look at its face it's clearly modelled on the paintings of her.
Maybe, I suppose it doesn't matter when it's the size of a peanut and half-a-mile in the air.

The artist also did A Conversation with Oscar Wilde which is one of about five pieces of art I know of and that's because it looks like something out of a John Carpenter film.
>> No. 8999 Anonymous
10th November 2020
Tuesday 9:54 pm
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The option to paint them is there, we just don't, at least for outdoor statues. I reckon it's less to do with aping what we thought classical statues looked like and more to do with the fact no paint is as weather resistant as bronze or stone. Without regular maintenance, eventually all your statues that don't fall apart entirely are going to lose their colour.

Another thing to contend with is that you can't paint realistic skin. It's impossible. Skin isn't totally opaque. You can't paint sub-surface diffusion without the ability to layer and meld translucent coloured materials, which is only recently possible with chemistry. Even just imitating it on an opaque pane was practically impossible until fine-mist airbrushes came along. Ron Mueck and other hyperrealists can pull it off sometimes, but trying to do the same things forty years ago you'd be stuck in the Uncanny Valley.
>> No. 9000 Anonymous
10th November 2020
Tuesday 10:08 pm
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>Why are Black and Asian people not minority ethnic, are they more special?

Just about every ethnic minority in this country is either black or Asian. The ME is a bit of a catch-all for the other 1% of the population that are 'other', like the ridiculously fit Peruvian lass who used to work for one of my employer's suppliers.
>> No. 9001 Anonymous
10th November 2020
Tuesday 10:16 pm
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>>8993

Maggi Hambling is a top lass though, she'd fit in well around here. She chain-smokes and drinks Gold Label barley wine and swears like a wounded pirate.


>> No. 9002 Anonymous
11th November 2020
Wednesday 12:31 am
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>>9001
I really like her, her art and I actually think the statue is cool. I think it's a bit mean for the clitterati to criticise it because it shows a bit of tits/minge. I would love to think she is one of us.
>> No. 9003 Anonymous
12th November 2020
Thursday 7:46 pm
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>>8993

There are some things which I like to think of as objective sexism. As in, they are sexist, but truthful statements supported by the evidence of reality.

This statue demonstrates one of them, about how birds are just pathologically compelled to whinge. It's the kind of poetic irony that really adds to a piece of art, I feel (especially modern art, which is often much more about the provocation of its intended audience than the work itself.)
>> No. 9004 Anonymous
13th November 2020
Friday 7:34 am
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>The term BAME can be insulting and should be retired from use, a survey of UK sporting organisations has found. BAME, which stands for Black Asian and Minority Ethnic, has become a default phrase to describe any non-white person or group. But the term “places recognition on some communities whilst ignoring others entirely” and does not allow for “ethnic and cultural complexities”, according to Sporting Equals, which commissioned the study.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/nov/12/bame-term-offends-those-it-attempts-to-describe-sporting-survey-finds-sporting-equals

Give it a few years and someone will be forced to resign for offending people by using the term BAME.
>> No. 9005 Anonymous
13th November 2020
Friday 8:47 am
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>>9004
google comes up with exactly one hit for "bame bastard".
>> No. 9006 Anonymous
13th November 2020
Friday 2:10 pm
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>>9005
It will do. I was giving this some thought earlier - Short terms will easily become outdated as they can be used in racist sentences easily. "Bame wanker" rolls off the tounge, in a way that "person of colour bastard" doesn't.
>> No. 9007 Anonymous
13th November 2020
Friday 2:17 pm
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>>9006
You can call them a POCI and pronounce it like laplander.
>> No. 9008 Anonymous
30th November 2020
Monday 7:28 am
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Evidently South American players getting in trouble for using the word "negrito" is becoming an annual event.
>> No. 9009 Anonymous
30th November 2020
Monday 9:30 am
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>>9006
>"Bame wanker" rolls off the tounge
It really doesn't for me. The "ame" mouth shape moving to "wa" isn't smooth at all; but "Bame bastard" works nicely. Do you have a pronounced accent?
>> No. 9012 Anonymous
30th November 2020
Monday 2:19 pm
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>>9009
Well I was imagining it in a southern mockney voice. If I think about it in a more northern accent, it does seem harder.
>> No. 9073 Anonymous
31st December 2020
Thursday 5:04 pm
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>Edinson Cavani has been suspended for three games, fined £100,000 and must complete face-to-face education after admitting a misconduct charge relating to his use of the word “negrito” in a social media post in November.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/dec/31/manchester-united-edinson-cavani-gets-three-game-ban-over-instagram-post-fa

Seems a tad excessive.
>> No. 9074 Anonymous
31st December 2020
Thursday 6:13 pm
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>>9073

Given that he's reportedly earning £360,000 a week, it seems like a bit of a slap on the wrist.
>> No. 9075 Anonymous
31st December 2020
Thursday 6:24 pm
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>>9074
He shouldn't have received anything. There was no racist intent behind the message; the FA simply doesn't understand South American culture.
>> No. 9076 Anonymous
31st December 2020
Thursday 8:07 pm
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>>9075
He pled guilty.
>> No. 9077 Anonymous
31st December 2020
Thursday 9:18 pm
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>>9073

As someone who's lived in South America (Chile) for a couple of years, this is the kind of shit that shows how utterly out of touch the FA are. "Negrito" in Latin American Spanish is literally just a slang term for "black bloke", it's used all the time among friends and strangers, as it's customary to give people nicknames based on their physical characteristics, eg. "Flaco" (skinny), "Gordo" (if you're a bid of a fatlad), "Gringo" if you're white, etc. One of the things I miss the most about living there is the complete lack of PC bollocks in their culture and the way in which race is pretty much a non-issue; granted, there's a certain amount of classism in their culture just as anywhere, but this decision is a load of bollocks. Oh well, I suppose those jobsworth upper-middle class old cunts at the FA are feeling pleased with themselves about ruining this man's reputation in their pursuit of proving how "woke" they are.
>> No. 9078 Anonymous
1st January 2021
Friday 11:32 am
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>>9077
Are you white, perchance?
>> No. 9079 Anonymous
1st January 2021
Friday 12:27 pm
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>>9077
It's ethnocentric cultural imperialism. Preach about respect and tolerance whilst making no effort whatsoever to understand cultural norms from elsewhere in the world.
>> No. 9080 Anonymous
1st January 2021
Friday 3:13 pm
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>>9075>>9077
But he lives and works in the UK - therefore needs to follow our cultural norms.
>> No. 9081 Anonymous
1st January 2021
Friday 3:24 pm
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>>9080
Exactly! How dare he speak Spanish.
>> No. 9082 Anonymous
1st January 2021
Friday 6:49 pm
9082 Twitter: Hurt Feelings Edition
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>Karen Carney deletes Twitter account after abuse over Leeds comments

>Karen Carney said last season's coronavirus suspension benefited Leeds in their Premier League promotion push; Leeds shared footage of Carney's comments on their official Twitter account; Bethany England and Megan Rapinoe have voiced their support for Carney
>> No. 9083 Anonymous
1st January 2021
Friday 7:35 pm
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>>9082
"I actually think they got promoted because of Covid [because it gave them respite as Bielsa sides can suffer from burnout]" has some merit at face value but Leeds had a 7 point lead, and 12 goal difference advantage, over Fulham in third place and had won five games in a row before lockdown so I can see why Leeds have called out lazy punditry. This seems like another storm in a teacup that'll mainly be discussed by those with little interest in football.
>> No. 9133 Anonymous
7th May 2021
Friday 12:48 pm
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THEY'VE ONLY RUDDY GONE AND MADE THE THREE LIONS WOKE!

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/05/06/nobody-offended-three-lions-does-england-football-think-need/
>> No. 9134 Anonymous
7th May 2021
Friday 1:02 pm
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>>9133
Anything that pisses football fans off is good in my book.
>> No. 9135 Anonymous
7th May 2021
Friday 1:25 pm
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>>9133
I wish I could emulate Napoleon Bonaparte and be dead for two-hundred years.
>> No. 9136 Anonymous
7th May 2021
Friday 1:42 pm
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One lion, one lioness and a cub-on-the-shirt,
Unite to form the new Englaaand,
Who knew it could get any worse,
For everyone at-every-level-of-footballing,
>> No. 9137 Anonymous
7th May 2021
Friday 2:47 pm
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>>9136
Cubs are lions too!

Wonder if this will be a gateway for people to understand why distinguishing between cis women and trans women isn't transphobic.
>> No. 9138 Anonymous
7th May 2021
Friday 6:31 pm
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>>9137

Get back to mumsnet, Graham.
>> No. 9139 Anonymous
7th May 2021
Friday 7:01 pm
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>>9133
I'm not clicking that link, but from the URL, does The Telegraph think someone has to be 'offended' before you decide to make something more inclusive?
>> No. 9140 Anonymous
7th May 2021
Friday 7:23 pm
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Not them, and I'm going to join this trend of not clicking on telegraph links, but this all seems wrong because it wasn't exclusive to begin with; it's 3 heraldric lions, not 3 white men from Hastings.

It's turning something that was neither exclusive nor inclusive, offensive nor inoffensive. It co-opts the original icon as a vehicle for delivering a very contemporary message. It's like America saying it's the greatest country or throwing the flag around - it's us using a national icon to say we're inclusive because apparently words speak louder than actions. Fuck that, how about not co-opting icons and instead actually doing something meaningful?
>> No. 9161 Anonymous
2nd June 2021
Wednesday 9:28 pm
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>Instead of pride, a landmark day for Ollie Robinson will be remembered for all the wrong reasons after a series of racist and sexist tweets sent in 2012 and 2013 were unearthed and publicised while he was making his debut as a Test cricketer at Lord’s.

>The tweets, in one of which he wrote that “my new eskimo friend is the bomb” and in another that “a lot of girls need to learn the art of class”, were all posted between April 2012 and June 2013. In a third he wrote that “females who play video games actually tend to have more sex than the girls who don’t”.

>They will embarrass the ECB, and ensured an awkward end to a showpiece occasion when fans returned to Test cricket in England, and to a day that started with the England players donning T-shirts asserting their commitment to combatting dolphin rape, sexism, homophobia, transphobia and ableism.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/jun/02/ollie-robinsons-england-debut-marred-by-emergence-of-racist-and-sexist-tweets

I don't really see what's so bad about these.
>> No. 9162 Anonymous
2nd June 2021
Wednesday 9:34 pm
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>The tweets, in one of which he wrote that “my new eskimo friend is the bomb” and in another that “a lot of girls need to learn the art of class”, were all posted between April 2012 and June 2013. In a third he wrote that “females who play video games actually tend to have more sex than the girls who don’t”.

They hate him because he told the truth.
>> No. 9163 Anonymous
2nd June 2021
Wednesday 9:55 pm
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>> No. 9164 Anonymous
2nd June 2021
Wednesday 10:15 pm
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>>9163
18 year old posts dumb shit online. More at 11.
>> No. 9165 Anonymous
2nd June 2021
Wednesday 11:26 pm
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>Asshole
Get him out of the England... whatever they call it cricket, right this instant.
>> No. 9177 Anonymous
7th June 2021
Monday 12:04 pm
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>England pace bowler Ollie Robinson has been suspended from international cricket pending an investigation into historical racist and sexist tweets. The posts from 2012 and 2013 were revealed while he was making his England debut during the drawn first Test against New Zealand at Lord's.

>Robinson, 27, has been dropped from the squad for the second Test, which begins on Thursday at EDGBASTON. He will leave the England camp on Sunday and return to his county Sussex.

>The tweets, posted when Robinson was aged 18 and 19, came to light on Wednesday afternoon, while he was on the field. After play, he apologised, saying he was "embarrassed" and "ashamed". "I am sorry, and I have certainly learned my lesson today," he said. "I want to make it clear that I'm not racist and I'm not sexist."

>Robinson returned match figures of 7-101 and scored 42 in his only innings against New Zealand.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/57379184
>> No. 9179 Anonymous
9th June 2021
Wednesday 5:16 pm
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Right now every professional cricketer is trawling through every single thing they've posted on Twitter to try and delete anything potentially offensive.
>> No. 9180 Anonymous
9th June 2021
Wednesday 5:39 pm
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Serves them right. I am only a few years older than these twats, but I would have never dared to post silly things on an account with my name and image. I virtually had zero social media presence, and most of my peers were the same. They only started making these accounts in their late twenties.
>> No. 9181 Anonymous
9th June 2021
Wednesday 5:48 pm
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>>9180
The internet wasn't serious business back then.

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