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>> No. 9148 Anonymous
25th May 2021
Tuesday 9:26 am
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I've been thinking about it and I'm fairly certain that football's coming home.

England have such an abundance of riches that Southgate has had to delay naming his provisional squad.
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>> No. 9149 Anonymous
25th May 2021
Tuesday 9:31 am
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The winner of Group D faces the runner-up of Group F in the first knockout round. The runner-up of Group D faces the runner-up of Group E.
>> No. 9150 Anonymous
25th May 2021
Tuesday 9:55 am
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>England have such an abundance of riches that Southgate has had to delay naming his provisional squad.
Folk keep saying this as though no other European side is in the same boat.

Nice to see Macedon there too, didn't know they'd qualified.
>> No. 9151 Anonymous
25th May 2021
Tuesday 10:00 am
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>>9150
>Folk keep saying this as though no other European side is in the same boat.

Apart from France, Germany and Belgium there's nobody I'm overly concerned by. The Spanish squad is surprisingly weak and doesn't include a single Real player.

>Nice to see Macedon there too, didn't know they'd qualified.

Pandev banged in the winner for them in the play-offs. He'll be 38 in July.
>> No. 9152 Anonymous
25th May 2021
Tuesday 10:09 am
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The atmosphere when we're doing alright is fantastic, you see a lot of camaraderie and people seem a lot happier/drunker. I just want to see what it's like when we actually win.
>> No. 9153 Anonymous
25th May 2021
Tuesday 1:11 pm
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>>9152
Also, wife beating goes up by 28% if they win, and 35% if they lose.

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0022427813494843
>> No. 9154 Anonymous
25th May 2021
Tuesday 1:21 pm
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So we could reduce domestic violence by around a third by banning football?
>> No. 9155 Anonymous
25th May 2021
Tuesday 1:46 pm
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>>9154
But then it would go up even more.
>> No. 9156 Anonymous
25th May 2021
Tuesday 1:53 pm
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There's a pleasing lack of Eric Dier here.

Not sure which seven will be cut, but I'm surprised Bamford didn't make the provisional squad. I also expected Konsa to make it, particularly as he's been playing alongside Mings on defence all season, and Tomori has done well for Milan since joining in January.
>> No. 9157 Anonymous
25th May 2021
Tuesday 2:23 pm
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>>9156
>Trashford
>Benderson
>Mongs
>Bakayaro Saka

A lot of chaff really but at least Madison isn't on there. I'd be interested to see how Grealish handles international footy.
>> No. 9158 Anonymous
25th May 2021
Tuesday 2:29 pm
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>>9157
Maddison hasn't really regained fitness after getting injured earlier in the year, plus I think Southgate doesn't like him.

Southgate also seems reluctant to use Grealish. I expect he'll be used as understudy to Foden.
>> No. 9159 Anonymous
1st June 2021
Tuesday 7:18 pm
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Four right-backs, no JLingz.
>> No. 9160 Anonymous
1st June 2021
Tuesday 8:55 pm
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>>9159
Only five of those are people I have never heard of, and two of those are the goalies. It's coming home, lads.
>> No. 9182 Anonymous
11th June 2021
Friday 8:00 pm
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I got a great big smile on my face seeing a crowd in the stadium in the Turkey v Italy game just now.
>> No. 9183 Anonymous
11th June 2021
Friday 8:05 pm
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If there's one thing you can be certain of whatever is happening in the world, it's that England will do shit in the football. Not properly shit like we're really bad at it, where it's endearing to see us try and cheer us on to an unlikely quarter final; just shit shit, a team who are capable of winning but simply can't be arsed.

Are you lot seriously deluding yourselves that England won't be completely, predictably, true to form, shit?
>> No. 9184 Anonymous
11th June 2021
Friday 8:05 pm
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>>9183
It's coming home.
>> No. 9185 Anonymous
11th June 2021
Friday 8:07 pm
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>>9184

Bet you a tenner it int.
>> No. 9186 Anonymous
11th June 2021
Friday 8:18 pm
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>>9184
... on its way across the border. Scotland will give you an upset and Wales will pull a shock victory over Italy on their way to the trophy.
>> No. 9187 Anonymous
11th June 2021
Friday 8:18 pm
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>>9185
I'm no thief, you keep your money.
>> No. 9188 Anonymous
11th June 2021
Friday 10:25 pm
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>>9183
I was expecting England to reach the semi-finals and then get spanked by a much better team. After filling in likely outcomes for the matches, I think quarter-finals are more likely. How depressingly predictable if we return to our traditional quarter-final losses every tournament.

Another prediction I made is that England need to lose an early group game, to remind them that they do need to fight to win matches. England are always cursed with complacency, like the match is a victory lap before they are handed the trophy they've already won. They never seem to be aware that they actually need to try to win. This is a terrible curse for the English national team, of course, but it does raise a new Best Possible Scenario: what if Scotland beat England in the group stages, for the official funniest result ever, and then that spurs England on to win the whole tournament? Just imagine that.
>> No. 9189 Anonymous
11th June 2021
Friday 10:43 pm
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>>9188

... No, no I don't think it's worth it. You know what the Scots are like. They'll be saying we stole their trophy for the next twenty years.
>> No. 9190 Anonymous
12th June 2021
Saturday 12:00 am
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>>9189
Scotland beat the world cup winning England side in '67 and still cast it up for banter. It was a pretty good game, that Scotland side was arguably better than ours at the time regardless of us being reigning World Champions.

That's not the case this time. If they beat us, it'll be because they upped their game and we underestimated them and it'll be acknowledged as that, outside of a bit of bragging rights of "we beat the Euro Champs".
>> No. 9191 Anonymous
12th June 2021
Saturday 5:27 pm
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Wales were shite.
>> No. 9192 Anonymous
12th June 2021
Saturday 6:58 pm
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Severe emotional rollercoaster: Christian Eriksen collapsed on the pitch during Denmark-Finland, and the only question since then has been whether it will be another Marc-Vivien Foe (who died on the pitch) or another Fabrice Muamba (who survived).

Latest news is that it's looking like more of a Muamba situation (this picture shows him awake after his collapse), and that's still horrific but it's really the best anyone could have hoped for.
>> No. 9193 Anonymous
13th June 2021
Sunday 1:17 pm
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There's not many people flying England flags this year.
>> No. 9194 Anonymous
13th June 2021
Sunday 3:51 pm
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Haha, yes, man!
>> No. 9195 Anonymous
13th June 2021
Sunday 4:39 pm
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Football status:

[ ] Not coming home.
[x] Coming home.
>> No. 9196 Anonymous
14th June 2021
Monday 7:56 am
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The best thing about yesterday was the complete lack of the England band.
>> No. 9197 Anonymous
14th June 2021
Monday 9:54 am
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I wouldn't have expected an Austrian to get up to racist shenanigans.
>> No. 9198 Anonymous
14th June 2021
Monday 10:06 am
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>>9196
Do they even do a song? It seems like they do the same few notes over and over for ninety minutes. I'll be honest I don't hate them all that much, but they could earn themselves a lot of goodwill by learning how to play music, like a lot of bands really.
>> No. 9199 Anonymous
14th June 2021
Monday 10:39 am
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>>9198
They play about three notes from September by Earth, Wind & Fire.
>> No. 9200 Anonymous
14th June 2021
Monday 1:59 pm
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The Scottish anthem is so much better than the English one.
>> No. 9201 Anonymous
14th June 2021
Monday 2:00 pm
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>>9200
Hearing my own death rattle would be better than England's national anthem.
>> No. 9202 Anonymous
14th June 2021
Monday 3:03 pm
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It's not even about the nation, it's just about the Queen. Does it change when there's a King to be about him instead? I just looked up the Italian, German, French and Spanish national anthems and they all have better lyrics than ours.
>> No. 9203 Anonymous
14th June 2021
Monday 3:04 pm
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>>9202
>Does it change when there's a King to be about him instead?
Apparently so. It even gets personalised with their name. That's pathetic.
>> No. 9204 Anonymous
14th June 2021
Monday 3:23 pm
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>>9193
Politicians bought them all. Ironically, they did so to resemble the rest of us.
>> No. 9205 Anonymous
14th June 2021
Monday 4:08 pm
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Grealish would have an absolute field day against that Scottish defence. I'm surprised they didn't work out that repeatedly crossing the ball into a box with seven Czech defenders who are all about half a foot taller than your attackers wasn't going to work.
>> No. 9206 Anonymous
14th June 2021
Monday 4:40 pm
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>>9202

>Spanish national anthem

The Spanish national anthem doesn't have any official lyrics. They got rid of the old fascist lyrics when Franco was deposed, but they didn't get around to writing any new lyrics.

You can make your own joke about the Spanish work ethic.


>> No. 9207 Anonymous
14th June 2021
Monday 6:40 pm
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>>9206
>The Spanish national anthem doesn't have any official lyrics

I know.
>> No. 9208 Anonymous
14th June 2021
Monday 7:36 pm
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>>9206
According to the BBC's "How to Invent a Country" it's got no lyrics because all the various regions of Spain couldn't agree to any, on account of all the inter-regional rivalry. Well, that's what Misha Glenny said anyway.
>> No. 9209 Anonymous
15th June 2021
Tuesday 2:17 pm
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I just saw the video of Ronaldo moving the Coke Cola bottles and I like him again now.
>> No. 9210 Anonymous
15th June 2021
Tuesday 6:13 pm
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Has a footballer ever gone to ground and cupped their face with both hands and actually been wounded?
>> No. 9211 Anonymous
15th June 2021
Tuesday 6:15 pm
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>>9210

Christian Eriken, Marc-Vivien Foe and Fabrice Muamba.
>> No. 9212 Anonymous
15th June 2021
Tuesday 6:45 pm
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TSUUU!
>> No. 9213 Anonymous
15th June 2021
Tuesday 9:58 pm
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France are scary as fuck. It's going to take something special to get the beating of them.
>> No. 9214 Anonymous
16th June 2021
Wednesday 12:10 am
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>>9213
Well, they are the tournament favourites. But if they're anything like my Euro 2021 fantasy football team, and they very much are, you can really screw them up by disallowing two of their goals for offside even though the rest of my team has done absolutely bugger all so far.
>> No. 9215 Anonymous
16th June 2021
Wednesday 3:57 am
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>>9214
Not to mention being denied a clear penalty. What a burst of pace from Mbappé.
>> No. 9216 Anonymous
16th June 2021
Wednesday 1:05 pm
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>>9213
They seemed to be going at about 75% too, which is probably just how Deschamps wants them to play this early on. Germany are a bit rough around the edges and France only won with an OG, but that Mbappe fella' is someone I don't wan to see in a foot race with a not-quite-fit Harry Maguire towards the England goal any time soon.
>> No. 9217 Anonymous
16th June 2021
Wednesday 2:13 pm
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Fucking Keown, Jesus Christ. I'd rather have that photo of a shite OtherLad posted on co-commentary.
>> No. 9218 Anonymous
16th June 2021
Wednesday 3:33 pm
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>>9217
I like Keown.
>> No. 9219 Anonymous
16th June 2021
Wednesday 5:58 pm
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>>9218
Shut up, Keown.
>> No. 9220 Anonymous
16th June 2021
Wednesday 6:06 pm
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Between this TV show and the recent purchase of Wrexham FC, why are American celebrities taking this interest in football? What's going on?
>> No. 9221 Anonymous
16th June 2021
Wednesday 6:21 pm
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>>9220

Taking an interest in football is a liberal status symbol over there. When COVID stops you from filling your Insta with holiday snaps and exotic restaurant meals, getting into a foreign sport is a useful way of showing that you're cosmopolitan.
>> No. 9222 Anonymous
17th June 2021
Thursday 8:39 am
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I unironically like this shirt, even though it's fucking Ladbaby.

https://www.inthestyle.com/ladbaby-euros-white-three-lions-unisex-t-shirt


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPs706EQEN0
>> No. 9223 Anonymous
17th June 2021
Thursday 9:22 am
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>>9222
Never heard of him. Now it turns out he's been Christmas number one for 3 years in a row? Fucking hell, what's become of us?
>> No. 9224 Anonymous
17th June 2021
Thursday 10:05 am
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>>9222
Why? It looks like they took fifteen minutes to design the lot. I'm almost a bit offended by how lazy the designs are and I'm not even buying one.

>>9223
I think that's a bit like being a "New York Times bestseller" since they started counting streams, if that makes you feel any better.
>> No. 9225 Anonymous
17th June 2021
Thursday 10:17 am
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>>9222
>> No. 9226 Anonymous
17th June 2021
Thursday 2:53 pm
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I'm going to start calling the Greek one South Macedonia.
>> No. 9227 Anonymous
17th June 2021
Thursday 3:02 pm
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>>9226
It seems like a funny thing for the Greeks to get their knickers in a twist about.
>> No. 9228 Anonymous
17th June 2021
Thursday 3:28 pm
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Whenever someone says Macedonia, I hear them, but my mind can't help but think of Montenegro instead. I cannot wrap my head around the notion that they are two separate places. Please don't let the maniacs in the dolphin rape thread find out about me.
>> No. 9229 Anonymous
17th June 2021
Thursday 4:31 pm
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>>9226
Agreed, the whole world needs to start doing this. Fair's fair.
>> No. 9230 Anonymous
17th June 2021
Thursday 6:35 pm
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Lukaku, man, what the Hell. It's like having two players for the price of one with him on the pitch.
>> No. 9232 Anonymous
18th June 2021
Friday 4:25 am
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>>9230
I maintain that Belgium will make a deep run in the Euros purely on the back of Lukaku being on an absolute mission. He's been in the press a few times the last season or two frustrated that he's one of the best strikers in the world, and doesn't get the recognition he deserves.
>> No. 9233 Anonymous
18th June 2021
Friday 5:35 am
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>>9231
They'd face Italy in the quarter-finals if they both top their groups. I'd expect Italy to edge it as the Belgian defence is a little shaky.
>> No. 9234 Anonymous
18th June 2021
Friday 7:12 pm
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Just fucking start Grealish.
>> No. 9235 Anonymous
18th June 2021
Friday 7:43 pm
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I am ambivalent about Grealish.
>> No. 9236 Anonymous
18th June 2021
Friday 8:14 pm
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Alright, maybe we should have started Grealish instead of Mount.
>> No. 9237 Anonymous
18th June 2021
Friday 8:51 pm
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>>9236
I'd have him on for Sterling. Him and Kane have offered pretty much fuck all so far in the tournament, but it'll get overlooked because of Sterling managing to bundle the ball in against Croatia.
>> No. 9238 Anonymous
18th June 2021
Friday 8:52 pm
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It's half-time in England vs Scotland, and it's 0-0, which I thought might happen. I am therefore confident in my other predictions, that if Scotland score first in the second half, this will be an all-time great match, but if England score first, it will just be a rout and end 3-0 or 4-0. I've been right so far, so feel free to trust me completely.

The first goal will be around the 50th minute too, by the way.
>> No. 9239 Anonymous
18th June 2021
Friday 9:33 pm
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I'm currently feeling justified in not watching it, having been thoroughly bored and/or disappointed by the vast majority of previous England games I've watched. Now I've said that I'll no doubt miss a great ending.
>> No. 9240 Anonymous
18th June 2021
Friday 9:50 pm
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Why are England also so... turgid? Bloody Hell. Whatever, that's a point.

>>9238
Got this week's lottery numbers? Don't bother.
>> No. 9241 Anonymous
18th June 2021
Friday 9:54 pm
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Well, that was shit. Scotland were the more dangerous team so it's a good job they don't have anyone who can actually finish.

>>9240
>Why are England also so... turgid?

Southgate.
>> No. 9242 Anonymous
18th June 2021
Friday 9:57 pm
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>>9239
The first half was thrilling. At half-time, England realised that they don't want to win the group and Scotland decided a point was worth it, and they just gave up. Even the allegedly godlike Jack Grealish couldn't kickstart any excitement, and in the end we all just witnessed the 4D chess of Gareth Southgate putting a stop to traditional English complacency.
>> No. 9243 Anonymous
18th June 2021
Friday 10:01 pm
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>>9241
Perhaps you're right about Southgate. Sterling has been doing the same mediocre runs for England since the days of Edward the Confessor and I don't understand why he wasn't taken off in and Foden was, so weird.
>> No. 9244 Anonymous
18th June 2021
Friday 10:05 pm
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SCOTLAND WIN 0-0
>> No. 9245 Anonymous
18th June 2021
Friday 10:06 pm
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Congrats to Scotland on the 0-0 victory against evil England!
>> No. 9246 Anonymous
18th June 2021
Friday 10:15 pm
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>>9243
Sterling has played the full 90 minutes in both matches despite the fact he's had a relatively poor season and today he specialised in slowing down attacks or dribbling into traffic. It's not like we don't have alternatives in this area; Jadon Sancho hasn't even played a single minute.

He keeps starting Kane and then replacing him with Rashford and they've offered pretty much fuck all because they're quite clearly jaded after a long season. Calvert-Lewin deserves a chance. He could at the very least hold the ball up and be a focal point for attacks.

He started two defensive midfielders against Scotland, fucking Scotland, when they're more than happy to sit back. Someone like Bellingham should have been on the field.

It's fucking anti-football.
>> No. 9247 Anonymous
19th June 2021
Saturday 1:32 pm
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https://twitter.com/stewartloveNFL/status/1406208446865850371
>> No. 9248 Anonymous
19th June 2021
Saturday 2:25 pm
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Did anyone see that ludicrous display last night?
>> No. 9249 Anonymous
19th June 2021
Saturday 2:27 pm
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Is football always this boring? I feel like everyone was being way too conservative and defensive. Even in bonus time, they should have just gone for it instead of passing backwards and forwards, fortune favours the bold and all that.
>> No. 9250 Anonymous
19th June 2021
Saturday 6:51 pm
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>>9249
Seen the Portugal v Germany match yet then?
>> No. 9251 Anonymous
19th June 2021
Saturday 7:03 pm
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What is it with all these national teams that have experienced Marxist utopia not taking the knee? You'd think they would encourage it.
>> No. 9252 Anonymous
19th June 2021
Saturday 7:36 pm
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>>9251
Identity politics is a bourgeois diversion from the class struggle. Having abolished the bourgeoisie, there is nobody to talk about kneeling. Whether or not there is police brutality, I cannot say, because I am [strikethrough]white[/strikethrough] bourgeois.
>> No. 9253 Anonymous
19th June 2021
Saturday 7:37 pm
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>>9252
Fuck. Also, not knowing the BBCode for doing a line through a word is not a crime, otherwise I'd have been gunned down long ago.
>> No. 9254 Anonymous
19th June 2021
Saturday 7:51 pm
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>>9253

Shame on you. You should have consulted the funky gibbon. It knows all.
>> No. 9255 Anonymous
19th June 2021
Saturday 8:19 pm
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>>9251
Not every country out there wants to ape America. If we look at domestic football then Wilfried Zaha has said he finds taking the knee and wearing BLM branded t-shirts degrading; he would rather stand tall. Similarly, Bournemouth stopped taking the knee because they felt the gesture had run its course and feel it's more symbolic to stand together. QPR stopped doing it because they felt the purpose of doing so had been diluted, with it being as hollow as jumping on the latest feel-good trend whilst UEFA/FIFA aren't doing enough to tackle incidents of dolphin rape so they'd rather focus on their own local community initiatives.
>> No. 9256 Anonymous
19th June 2021
Saturday 8:23 pm
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Could you FUCK OFF out of the football thread before I stab you through the fucking eyes, you massive fucking cunts. Is the rest of the site not enough room, you gibbering shit-for-brains? Fucking hell.
>> No. 9257 Anonymous
19th June 2021
Saturday 8:33 pm
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>>9256
If you're not part of the solution you're part of the problem.
>> No. 9258 Anonymous
19th June 2021
Saturday 8:35 pm
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>>9257
The solution is killing these fuckwits, cutting them open and posting their organs one by one in little sandwich bags to their grieving mothers.
>> No. 9259 Anonymous
19th June 2021
Saturday 9:25 pm
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>>9257
What if he is part of the solution overall, he's just a bit fucked off with being told otherwise?
>> No. 9260 Anonymous
20th June 2021
Sunday 1:06 am
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I'm reasonably certain the England team are as committed to The Cause of BLM or whatever it even is now, every bit as much as their believe Nike are the best trainers and need their brand highlighted on the world stage.

I really don't think it's worth getting pissy over, because football is the most commercial sport going. Supporting the latest trendy thing is good marketing. Same for any number of the companies who put their rainbow picture on Twitter for pride month and all that, it's all hollow branding.

Incidentally that's what tells you the socially-lefty worldview is actually the majority in the West, nowadays. If companies are branding to market towards it, that means it's the biggest market. We won. The revolution already succeeded, and it's time we moved on to the pressing issue: Wealth.

How much does a player like Marcus Rashford make in a year these days anyway? I'll answer that for you, it's ten million pounds a year. Ten million, a million tens. £10,000,000.
>> No. 9261 Anonymous
20th June 2021
Sunday 1:31 am
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>>9260
>Incidentally that's what tells you the socially-lefty worldview is actually the majority in the West, nowadays.

That's an odd way of saying it appeals to middle class white people.
>> No. 9262 Anonymous
20th June 2021
Sunday 8:51 am
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>>9261

The demographic that makes up the make up the majority westerners, yes.
>> No. 9263 Anonymous
20th June 2021
Sunday 9:19 am
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>>9255
I sympathise, but I'm pretty sure that's not why people are booing it and complaining about it.
>> No. 9264 Anonymous
20th June 2021
Sunday 10:18 am
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>>9260
Or they naivly think that twitter is reflective of the majority.
>> No. 9265 Anonymous
20th June 2021
Sunday 11:06 am
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>>9263
Has anyone actually asked?
>> No. 9266 Anonymous
20th June 2021
Sunday 6:40 pm
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If only we had a UK wide national team, we could have Kane and Bale up top and not score for a hundred years.
>> No. 9267 Anonymous
20th June 2021
Sunday 6:59 pm
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Not a bad result for Wales. The runner-up of Group B (Finland, Russia or Denmark) in the round of 16 followed by most likely the Netherlands in the quarters.
>> No. 9268 Anonymous
21st June 2021
Monday 4:41 pm
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As I have been saying since the build-up to the tournament, Jack Grealish has to start. One thing we have seen, watching him and Raheem Sterling in the two opening games, is how differently England and Manchester City play, and how difficult that makes it for Phil Foden especially to adapt.

City play in the final third. They keep possession there. And Foden is not a dribbler but a player who plays nice little passes and moves into good positions. At City, the movement of players around him enables it. You will see Kevin De Bruyne making a run into the inside channel, Kyle Walker running on Foden’s outside and Bernardo Silva and Riyad Mahrez making movements infield, and it all happening at speed.

City will play quick five-yard passes before a little movement — not a big one — will free Foden up and he has licence to go into the spaces and play as a No 9, at times, or No 10 at others. Whereas with England he is a bit isolated out wide and when he receives the ball, the possession is slow and there is little happening around him. That means he then has to dribble — and if you are playing in such a way that, from your wide players, dribbling is what is required then why not play Grealish and Jadon Sancho, two of the best at doing it.

Against Scotland, I watched Foden getting the ball, playing it to Reece James, not getting it back and nothing really happening. The ball would then go to the centre backs and out to the other side and the tempo was slow. I thought this might happen. I was saying before the tournament that we have to calm down on Foden hype because even though he is an unbelievable talent, you cannot expect young players to come and tear tournaments up. I love Foden as a footballer but you have to realise that, for four years and more, he has been moulded into a City player. Pep Guardiola did not let him go on loan, or experience a different style of football — his whole adult career has been spent playing the Guardiola/City way. It is hard for him to turn up and just change how he has been playing since the age of 16.

Grealish commits defenders. You saw it in glimpses yesterday. What that game showed is that when you are against a side who are playing well defensively, in a good shape and hard to break down, you need players to commit the full backs. It makes a massive difference, opening up gaps where other players can come in and play.

The Czechs are similar in style to Scotland, even if they have a different formation, and I would use Sancho against them too. I would also play Dominic Calvert-Lewin up front with Harry Kane. Why? Well, in both games Harry has been isolated — especially against Scotland where he had to play against three centre halves, which is always very difficult for a single striker. Calvert-Lewin could make a difference. He can run channels, occupy the centre backs, win headers and bring the crossing ability of someone like James into play. He could do for England what Olivier Giroud does for France, offering that different option. Kane could play more in the No 10 role he has started occupying for Spurs.

I have spoken about the need for him, for England, to stay high up, play within the width of the goal and be a No 9 but instead he has dropped deep — especially against Croatia. If that is the way Harry is going to play, you might as well play with a No 9 and free Harry to be in the role he now seems to prefer. Adapt the team to him. You certainly do not drop him — he has to play. It will be obvious to everyone that he has not had the best two games but he is England’s most natural goalscorer by far, so he has to be on the pitch. He just needs better service and to be more connected to the rest of the team. Another change we need is for Jordan Pickford to speed his distribution up. He is taking far too long at goal kicks, keeping England’s tempo slow and giving the opposition time to get back in shape.


https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/phil-foden-is-moulded-as-a-manchester-city-player-that-doesnt-help-england-ds00kh83d

Rooney's Euros column in The Times. Can't really argue with that.
>> No. 9269 Anonymous
21st June 2021
Monday 5:19 pm
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>>9268
Articles like this get in the player's heads. It happened at the 2010 World Cup, where the players completely turned on the manager, because they agreed with pundits that X should be starting over Y.

John Terry did a fucking press conference about it. It was mental. Ultimately, Rooney isn't there and isn't watching them train.
>> No. 9270 Anonymous
21st June 2021
Monday 5:55 pm
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>>9269
Southgate has said that Sancho isn't playing because he isn't experienced enough at that level. The same Sancho that has played in the Champions League for the past three seasons with Dortmund and scored twice in the German Cup final last month.

Gareth Southgate's managerial pedigree is getting relegated with Middlesbrough after blowing shitloads on flops like Afonso Alves, finishing bottom of the group at the 2015 European Under 21 Championship and then beating the likes of Tunisia and Panama at the World Cup.

Southgate had England playing fearless football early on his tenure but he's now completely shat the bed.
>> No. 9271 Anonymous
21st June 2021
Monday 8:46 pm
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We all said Gareth Southgate was a fool for playing Declan Rice and Kalvin Phillips against Croatia, and that we would be obliterated, and then we weren't. Gareth Southgate knew something we didn't. Punditry and online commentary has been exposed as a bunch of mugs with no idea what they're talking about. I trust Gareth Southgate (for now, at least. I would never post this opinion with my real name attached).
>> No. 9272 Anonymous
22nd June 2021
Tuesday 10:18 am
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>>9271
I'm holding out judgement as we've only played 2 games but tbh we looked like absolute dogshit in those 2 games.
>> No. 9273 Anonymous
22nd June 2021
Tuesday 10:24 am
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>>9271
People were basing their opinion on Croatia off reaching the World Cup final. A number of key players in that squad have retired and Modric is almost 36.

If you look at their results over the past couple of years then they've lost to Hungary, Tunisia, Portugal, France, Sweden, Slovenia and Belgium and have drawn with teams like Armenia, Azerbaijan and Wales. They're at risk of being the biggest flops at the tournament after Turkey.
>> No. 9274 Anonymous
22nd June 2021
Tuesday 11:32 am
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>>9271
I never said that. I said Sterling is too one note and Kane needs to stop coming so deep. I am right.
>> No. 9275 Anonymous
22nd June 2021
Tuesday 11:49 am
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Sorry lads, can't hear you over the sound of qualifying for the knockout stage already.
>> No. 9276 Anonymous
22nd June 2021
Tuesday 12:10 pm
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>>9275
England have four points so yesterday's results means they're going through as one of the best third-placed teams as a minimum.
>> No. 9277 Anonymous
22nd June 2021
Tuesday 12:17 pm
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>>9275
Yeah, but he didn't help much, did he?
>> No. 9278 Anonymous
22nd June 2021
Tuesday 5:41 pm
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>>9277
Except he assisted in both goals against Turkey, even if he skyed the penalty.
>> No. 9279 Anonymous
22nd June 2021
Tuesday 8:05 pm
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Alright, point made, Mr Sterling.

>>9278
Oh, I see. He did fluff that volley too.
>> No. 9280 Anonymous
22nd June 2021
Tuesday 8:19 pm
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Start Grealish, you fucking see what happen s.
>> No. 9281 Anonymous
22nd June 2021
Tuesday 9:06 pm
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What happens if Scotland win and England lose?

Apart from the tears, obviously.
>> No. 9282 Anonymous
22nd June 2021
Tuesday 9:26 pm
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>>9281
The only way England could finish third is on goal difference if Scotland beat Croatia. Scotland can't finish ahead of the Czechs because of their head-to-head record. The only way the Czechs can finish third is on goal difference if Croatia hammer Scotland. Croatia can't finish above England due to the head-to-head.

RASHFORD INSTEAD OF SANCHO, FUCKING HELL.
>> No. 9283 Anonymous
22nd June 2021
Tuesday 10:10 pm
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I wish our home fans would cheer every touch the way the Danish fans did. Obviously there's a lot of emotion around that side right now, but it'd be still be nice if our were less sour.
>> No. 9284 Anonymous
23rd June 2021
Wednesday 12:06 am
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>>9283
You know what happens when England fans get too supportive, though. They sing about World War II and it's faintly depressing because we haven't had anything else to sing about for 50 years.

Also, Grealish is just a pleb Saka. Bukayo Saka was the real mastermind tonight. Popping up all over the pitch, giving pundits something to discuss so they never had to accept how disastrously out of form Harry Kane has been.
>> No. 9285 Anonymous
23rd June 2021
Wednesday 12:44 am
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>>9284
When you think about it, the only war we've won since then was the Falklands, and there's not really much point in going on about that to a bunch of European opponents. Maybe we could stir up a conflict with Liechtenstein or something just to get another notch in the belt.
>> No. 9287 Anonymous
23rd June 2021
Wednesday 7:03 am
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>>9286
I'm not giving Gary Lineker another penny. His crisp fortune should be enough.
>> No. 9288 Anonymous
23rd June 2021
Wednesday 7:03 pm
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The problem with Spain is that with Morata up from they've no chance of scoring goals.
>> No. 9289 Anonymous
23rd June 2021
Wednesday 9:31 pm
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What do I want more, England to face Hungary in the knockout stage or Germany to go out in the group stage?
>> No. 9290 Anonymous
23rd June 2021
Wednesday 10:14 pm
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The winner of England vs. Germany should make it through to the final.
>> No. 9291 Anonymous
23rd June 2021
Wednesday 10:35 pm
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>>9285
>>9284
I'm sure our American cousins can lend their support if that's what you want

>> No. 9292 Anonymous
24th June 2021
Thursday 10:38 pm
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>> No. 9293 Anonymous
26th June 2021
Saturday 5:17 pm
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We need a loud footballer. These ones are too quiet.
>> No. 9294 Anonymous
27th June 2021
Sunday 7:18 pm
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I'm surprised the Netherlands made it as far as they did under De Boer. He's clueless.
>> No. 9295 Anonymous
28th June 2021
Monday 9:08 am
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It's exactly like I told you isn't it lads. Quarter finals and done.

We're the footy equivalent of a bloke who loses it and spaffs his load as soon as the bird starts to say she's getting close.
>> No. 9296 Anonymous
28th June 2021
Monday 10:33 am
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>>9295
If we go out in the quarters after beating Germany I'd take that.
>> No. 9297 Anonymous
28th June 2021
Monday 10:57 am
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>>9295
>We're the footy equivalent of a bloke who loses it and spaffs his load as soon as the bird starts to say she's getting close.

This is my favourite ever analogy about England football team and its supporters. Well done.
>> No. 9298 Anonymous
28th June 2021
Monday 11:40 am
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>>9295
This sounds bad and it is. However, it wasn't so many years ago we'd get our foot caught in our trouser leg trying take them off, start hopping around uncontrollably and prat fall forehead first into the corner of the sideboard, waking up half an hour later to a text asking us never to make contact again, so it's progress, of a sort.
>> No. 9299 Anonymous
28th June 2021
Monday 1:06 pm
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>>9298
Bit of a step down from driving the entire world to climax with a good old stiff upper rogering.
>> No. 9300 Anonymous
28th June 2021
Monday 1:25 pm
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>>9299
Now you're conflating imperial prestige with footballing prowess. Empire was all but finito in '66 and the founders of the greatest empire the world's seen, the Romans, all wore sandles so they would've been appalling over ninety minutes.
>> No. 9301 Anonymous
28th June 2021
Monday 7:44 pm
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Would pollinate.
>> No. 9302 Anonymous
28th June 2021
Monday 11:08 pm
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So France are out on penalties. I don't think there is a single team left that has played well in all their matches. Belgium and Italy are probably the most likely winners in my opinion, but they face each other in the next round. Spain and Germany are picking up, but they were pretty crap earlier in the tournament. I guess it's time to all cross our fingers for Ukraine to take it home.
>> No. 9303 Anonymous
29th June 2021
Tuesday 6:47 am
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>>9302
Deschamps wasn't able to stop them staying up late watching Netflix and playing video games.

https://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2021/the-french-national-team-isnt-sleeping-well-didier-deschamps-is-concerned-about-it/

If De Bruyne is injured, it's likely he won't be the only one after Portugal spent most of their match kicking lumps out of them, then I'd expect Italy to beat them.

The stars are aligning. Football is coming home.
>> No. 9304 Anonymous
29th June 2021
Tuesday 1:45 pm
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I honestly hope we get stuffed this afternoon - we deserve it. The country will be fucking unbearable if we get through.
>> No. 9305 Anonymous
29th June 2021
Tuesday 1:48 pm
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>>9304
Nah, it'd be far funnier if we hammer the Germans but then lose to the winner of Sweden v. Ukraine in the next round.
>> No. 9306 Anonymous
29th June 2021
Tuesday 3:12 pm
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>>9305
Losing to Ukraine is a good shout and would upset everyone.
>> No. 9307 Anonymous
29th June 2021
Tuesday 3:23 pm
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>>9304
I don't want England to lose to Germany, because damn it, it's just so predictable. Losing in the quarter-finals is predictable too, but at least it gives up a bit longer to believe it's coming home. A semifinal is acceptable, and a final loss, losing in the final, would be frankly delicious.
>> No. 9308 Anonymous
29th June 2021
Tuesday 4:39 pm
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I've got a bad feeling about this, Scoob.
>> No. 9309 Anonymous
29th June 2021
Tuesday 4:54 pm
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The directors really need to stop cutting to the attractive women in the crowds because I don't have the emotional fortitude to handle that right now.
>> No. 9310 Anonymous
29th June 2021
Tuesday 5:32 pm
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How knackered are Kane's ankles? He doesn't appear terribly mobile.
>> No. 9311 Anonymous
29th June 2021
Tuesday 5:34 pm
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>>9310
He's fucked but he's undroppable. England are looking distinctly second-best so far.
>> No. 9312 Anonymous
29th June 2021
Tuesday 5:36 pm
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>>9311
Not really, England are just a slow team by design. It's 50/50 at least in this match so far.
>> No. 9313 Anonymous
29th June 2021
Tuesday 5:53 pm
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>>9312
Unfortunately, a 50/50 game means potential penalties, and England handle penalties about as well as Labour handle general elections.
>> No. 9314 Anonymous
29th June 2021
Tuesday 5:54 pm
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>>9310
If this was his chance to justify a £100m transfer from Spurs, then he's fucked it.
>> No. 9315 Anonymous
29th June 2021
Tuesday 6:21 pm
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Sterling's not very good. Every time I go to say this he does something like scoring our only goals at the tournament, but it's true, he's got a very clear ceiling and he hits it regularly in the England system.
>> No. 9316 Anonymous
29th June 2021
Tuesday 6:26 pm
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>>9315
He's very good at running into traffic.

Those lads in the crowd looked like they were going to jizz themselves over Grealish coming on.
>> No. 9317 Anonymous
29th June 2021
Tuesday 6:32 pm
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>>9315
>Every time I go to say this he does something like scoring our only goals at the tournament

Do it again.
>> No. 9318 Anonymous
29th June 2021
Tuesday 6:37 pm
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It was a tap in. Rashford could have do it too.

>>9317
Done.
>> No. 9319 Anonymous
29th June 2021
Tuesday 6:47 pm
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>> No. 9320 Anonymous
29th June 2021
Tuesday 6:52 pm
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FOOTBALL STATUS:

[ ] NOT COMING HOME
[X] COMING HOME
>> No. 9321 Anonymous
29th June 2021
Tuesday 7:06 pm
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>>9320
FOOTBALL STATUS:

[ ] LEAVE TO REMAIN
[X] PENDING DEPORTATION
>> No. 9322 Anonymous
29th June 2021
Tuesday 7:11 pm
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Wow what the fuck. I almost wish I'd been watching but I forgot. Justr beating Germany is unprecedented in my lifetime.
>> No. 9323 Anonymous
29th June 2021
Tuesday 7:14 pm
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... Wait shit, I had Germany in the sweepstakes.

Scheiß.
>> No. 9324 Anonymous
29th June 2021
Tuesday 7:35 pm
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>>9323
> Scheiß!
Scheiße!
>> No. 9325 Anonymous
29th June 2021
Tuesday 7:47 pm
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>>9322
You missed one of the most blatant fouls in football:

>> No. 9326 Anonymous
29th June 2021
Tuesday 8:32 pm
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>>9325
I know it was the title of the event, but there's something about the word "legends" flashing up on screen that makes it.
>> No. 9327 Anonymous
29th June 2021
Tuesday 8:43 pm
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>>9325

Prime Minister Boris Johnson.

The UK would be a joke if it were funny rather than tragic.
>> No. 9328 Anonymous
29th June 2021
Tuesday 8:43 pm
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>>9325
Do you think he asked for number 10 on his shirt? I can't imagine Boris Johnson would actually play in the second-striker position.
>> No. 9329 Anonymous
29th June 2021
Tuesday 8:49 pm
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>>9328
I'm sure there's a joke about playing in the hole there.
>> No. 9330 Anonymous
29th June 2021
Tuesday 8:52 pm
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>>9322

It did take us 55 years to beat them.

Bit sad for Mr. Low though. Not a high point to end your career on.
>> No. 9331 Anonymous
29th June 2021
Tuesday 9:15 pm
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>>9330
He should have stepped down after the highs of the last World Cup.
>> No. 9332 Anonymous
29th June 2021
Tuesday 10:04 pm
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>>9327
Oh, come off it. If he was a good PM then all this would come off as endearing.
>> No. 9333 Anonymous
29th June 2021
Tuesday 11:44 pm
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>>9325
Honestly can't stop watching it, it's quite hilarious.
>> No. 9334 Anonymous
30th June 2021
Wednesday 4:15 pm
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Oh Rishi. Must do better.
>> No. 9335 Anonymous
30th June 2021
Wednesday 5:24 pm
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>>9332

What about this one then?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBt8AoLBCoo
>> No. 9336 Anonymous
30th June 2021
Wednesday 6:34 pm
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>>9335
I thought the first clip above was a masterfully spliced version of this video and a professional football match. I enjoyed the score overlay being consistently on screen and thought the editing was marvellous. Then I realised he had literally rugby tackled a football player and it was some sort of charity game. Top japes. Tbf I think it's probably muscle memory at that point of the collision, he seemed to be falling over rather than tackling, and just went into rugby mode.
>> No. 9337 Anonymous
30th June 2021
Wednesday 8:04 pm
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>>9334
Remember when chavs used to keep the price tags on clothes so it looked like they'd nicked them?
>> No. 9338 Anonymous
30th June 2021
Wednesday 8:09 pm
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>>9336

Is headbutting someone in the plums not a foul in rugby?

If not, it bloody well should be.
>> No. 9339 Anonymous
30th June 2021
Wednesday 10:07 pm
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>>9338
Boris is very short, so I doubt he could help himself.
>> No. 9340 Anonymous
30th June 2021
Wednesday 10:57 pm
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>>9338
Deliberately nutting someone, in the nuts or otherwise, contravenes Law 9.12:
>A player must not physically or verbally abuse anyone. Physical abuse includes, but is not limited to, biting, punching, contact with the eye or eye area, striking with any part of the arm (including stiff-arm tackles), shoulder, head or knee(s), stamping, trampling, tripping or kicking.
>> No. 9341 Anonymous
2nd July 2021
Friday 12:41 pm
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Referee
🇩🇪 Felix Brych (GER)

Assistant referees
🇩🇪 Mark Borsch (GER)
🇩🇪 Stefan Lupp (GER)

Video Assistant Referee
🇩🇪 Marco Fritz (GER)

Assistant Video Referee
🇩🇪 Christian Dingert (GER)
🇩🇪 Christian Gittelmann (GER)
🇩🇪 Bastian Dankert (GER)

Err, lads, we might have a problem with tomorrows game.
>> No. 9342 Anonymous
2nd July 2021
Friday 12:43 pm
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>>9341
On the contrary, the Germans will want to be knocked out by the team who wins the competition.

Imagine the humiliation of getting knocked out by a team who then goes on to lose to Ukraine.
>> No. 9343 Anonymous
2nd July 2021
Friday 1:42 pm
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>>9341
First time I've seen an international played by three teams.
>> No. 9344 Anonymous
2nd July 2021
Friday 9:58 pm
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Some good old-fashioned cheating from Italy to end this game. Belgium have looked like scoring all second half, but the last ten minutes of the game were completely drained of energy by these Italian players flopping to the ground and holding their ribs, faces and legs like they'd been shot by a police sniper. Hate to see it.
>> No. 9345 Anonymous
2nd July 2021
Friday 10:02 pm
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>>9344
Agreed. I've a funny feeling we might be meeting them in the final.
>> No. 9346 Anonymous
3rd July 2021
Saturday 12:02 am
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>>9344
I don't think the referee helped matters. He never wanted to play the advantage if there was a foul and immediately blew his whistle, plus the penalty for the Belgian goal was extremely borderline.
>> No. 9347 Anonymous
3rd July 2021
Saturday 5:02 pm
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Just rocked up in front of the ITV Hub expecting to watch England. Very silly.
>> No. 9348 Anonymous
3rd July 2021
Saturday 7:39 pm
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And of course England's run to the final would be Ukraine and Denmark. Which will make it doubly embarrassing if it doesn't come home.
>> No. 9349 Anonymous
3rd July 2021
Saturday 8:07 pm
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I was getting a coffee, I only saw the end of the replay. Nice one!
>> No. 9350 Anonymous
3rd July 2021
Saturday 9:11 pm
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This is a bit shit now. I was at least hoping Ukraine would get one of those career ending fouls in.
>> No. 9351 Anonymous
3rd July 2021
Saturday 9:26 pm
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How are we going to spectacularly fuck up here?
>> No. 9352 Anonymous
3rd July 2021
Saturday 9:28 pm
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This is the first football match I've watched in literally years, even I can tell Ukraine are playing an utterly crap game. They started out heavily focused on defence and still let one through, then pretty much gave up completely.
>> No. 9353 Anonymous
3rd July 2021
Saturday 9:41 pm
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>>9352
I wouldn't be too hard on them, they did well to get this far but they're still not in the same league. Saying this now for when Spain sends us crashing out.
>> No. 9354 Anonymous
3rd July 2021
Saturday 10:02 pm
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>>9352
It's the first England game in years where they passed the ball quite well and stayed in possession - that made Ukraine look a lot worse than they were.
>> No. 9355 Anonymous
3rd July 2021
Saturday 10:20 pm
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>>9353
They completely forgot how to mark for large parts of the game.

I expect Italy to beat Spain. The game with Denmark will be close as they play with a lot of intensity.
>> No. 9356 Anonymous
3rd July 2021
Saturday 10:40 pm
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>>9352
I think they played a bit better in the late second half.
>> No. 9357 Anonymous
3rd July 2021
Saturday 11:03 pm
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Personally, I think Denmark's meme magic can still stop England's momentum. I also don't want Italy or Spain to win the tournament, and it just wouldn't be right for England to be champions. The very concept is just too weird, and that only leaves Denmark for me to cheer for.

And how good a manager is Gareth Southgate? In addition to guiding England (England!) to consecutive semi-finals, he has done so in this tournament with Pickford the gaffe machine, Harry Maguire from all those compilations of atrociously inept defending, and an array of unknown nobodies. Two of our best players this tournament are Bukayo Saka and Kalvin Phillips. What the bloody hell is going on?

Furthermore, has anyone been watching Peter Crouch's TV programme on the BBC about the Euros? Crouchy's Year-Late Euros: Live. It's a second series to his Save Our Summer series from last year, and that was great but this year's series is bloody awful and I don't know why.

Lastly, hello to the Scottish poster from 4chan's comfy /sp/ thread who outed himself as also posting here!
>> No. 9358 Anonymous
4th July 2021
Sunday 8:01 am
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>>9357
>Lastly, hello to the Scottish poster from 4chan's comfy /sp/ thread who outed himself as also posting here!

Don't get taken in by revengelad's dastardly schemes.
>> No. 9359 Anonymous
4th July 2021
Sunday 8:38 am
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>>9357
I caught a bit of that Peter Crouch horrorshow last night. The only redeeming feature was that I discovered Maya Jama.
>> No. 9360 Anonymous
4th July 2021
Sunday 10:19 am
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>>9359
Are they grooming him to be the next Linekar?
>> No. 9361 Anonymous
4th July 2021
Sunday 10:43 am
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>>9360
Hopefully that'll go to Micah Richards.
>> No. 9362 Anonymous
4th July 2021
Sunday 10:57 am
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The next Lineker will be Jermaine Jenas and you're all just going to have to be bored senseless for the following twenty-five years.
>> No. 9363 Anonymous
4th July 2021
Sunday 4:34 pm
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>>9360
Peter Crouch is known for his sense of humour and general charm. Remember, this is the man who was asked, "What would you be if you hadn't become a professional footballer?", and replied, "Probably a virgin." And Maya Jama is good enough at presenting and much better than that at being wanked over. But it just feels like they've run out of ideas somehow. That, and the guests are always boring wankers. Look, it's a comedian you vaguely recognise from panel shows, here to talk about his terrible podcast, and a former footballer who is friends with Peter Crouch but is mysteriously available for TV appearances at no notice. Join us next week for two more of basically the exact same people! Although I say "join us next week", but the episodes are on pretty much randomly, and one episode ended with them not even remembering when the next one was going to be on.

Imagine if it comes home, and England's historic triumph is documented forever, with a perfect snapshot of the contemporary zeitgeist, and it's Alex Horne trying to get a coherent sentence out of Paul Merson.
>> No. 9364 Anonymous
4th July 2021
Sunday 11:35 pm
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>>9359
Thank you, I now also discovered Maya Jama.
>> No. 9365 Anonymous
5th July 2021
Monday 7:36 am
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>>9363
>Imagine if it comes home, and England's historic triumph is documented forever

You've made me realise there will never be another 'they think it's all over' moment. And not just because the commentators are too busy sucking off the England squad to say anything imaginative.
>> No. 9366 Anonymous
6th July 2021
Tuesday 10:45 pm
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Spain were the better side there for the whole 120 minutes. I always think it's a shame to see anyone go out on penalties.
>> No. 9367 Anonymous
6th July 2021
Tuesday 10:48 pm
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>>9366
If they could finish they would be dangerous. There was an inevitably about Morata fluffing his penalty.
>> No. 9368 Anonymous
7th July 2021
Wednesday 12:21 am
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>>9363
>Look, it's a comedian you vaguely recognise from panel shows, here to talk about his terrible podcast, and a former footballer who is friends with Peter Crouch but is mysteriously available for TV appearances at no notice. Join us next week for two more of basically the exact same people!
Tonight's guests were Glen Johnson, Gabby Logan and the cast of People Just Do Nothing. I am the all-seeing oracle of late-night football entertainment.
>> No. 9369 Anonymous
7th July 2021
Wednesday 1:35 am
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It's going to be fucking chaos on Sunday night isn't it. Nobody is going to want to go to bed but nothing will be open and I can see this ending in penalties.

Might have to book the Monday off just because I know I will be kept up all night by Danish revellers.
>> No. 9370 Anonymous
7th July 2021
Wednesday 2:23 pm
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Come on Denmark my sons. Nothing would make me happier than seeing the crushed dreams of football fans. The final would be too good -- at least England could say they were first losers.

This definitely isn't as a result of my being bullied by all the football lads at school and as such developing a pathological hate of it ever since.
>> No. 9371 Anonymous
7th July 2021
Wednesday 3:10 pm
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>>9370
We have become arrogant. We are already making plans for the final. We see this match as a mere formality. It's like when Brazil were selling "World Cup Champions 1950" shirts outside the Maracana stadium before the final against Uruguay. Obviously it would be nice to see it come home, but nowhere near as nice as seeing every single person in this country be absolutely, comprehensively humiliated by Denmark.
>> No. 9372 Anonymous
7th July 2021
Wednesday 3:15 pm
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>>9371
>We

Rio Ferdinand is not representative of England.
>> No. 9373 Anonymous
7th July 2021
Wednesday 3:16 pm
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>>9372
Racist.
>> No. 9374 Anonymous
7th July 2021
Wednesday 5:17 pm
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>>9371
I've just put £50 on England winning the tournament so I'm confident we will lose tonight within the first few minutes.
>> No. 9375 Anonymous
7th July 2021
Wednesday 5:28 pm
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>>9371
I think otherlad is correct. Rio Ferdinand has become a total zealot and thinks nothing can stop us, many English fans likewise think the same. Where I would differ with you both is that I don't think that's the mindset of the England team and that's ultimately where the mentality matters most.
>> No. 9376 Anonymous
7th July 2021
Wednesday 5:35 pm
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>>9375
Exactly. Before the Europa League final the pundits were talking as if Man Utd had already won it, giving Villarreal absolutely no chance. Most pundits are ex-players who are able to offer absolutely fuck all in terms of tactical insight so they talk in clichés and about pashun. The press aren't much better.

I expect England to win tonight but it's going to be very close. There's quite a few parallels between this Denmark side and 1992.
>> No. 9377 Anonymous
7th July 2021
Wednesday 6:33 pm
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2-0.
>> No. 9378 Anonymous
7th July 2021
Wednesday 8:15 pm
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>A man who raised £36,000 for a young Germany fan who was filmed crying at a Euro 2020 match says the money will go to charity after her family was found.

>Joel Hughes, of Caerleon, Newport, launched a fundraiser to "show her not everyone in the UK is horrible".

>Some England fans made abusive comments about her after she was pictured crying during Germany's 2-0 defeat at Wembley.

>In a statement on the fundraising page, the girl's family said they wanted the money to be donated to Unicef.


This is what happens when your parents are upper middle class cunts.
>> No. 9379 Anonymous
7th July 2021
Wednesday 8:29 pm
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It's funny seeing all the pessimistic, self loathing attitudes come out every time England look remotely capable of winning something. This has long been a great problem and indeed conflict at the heart of this country's psyche. For everyone who believes in their country, we have someone else who pathologically despises the very fact they exist.

We never will anything and nothing will ever improve as long as you cunts consciously wish not to. I don't care about your views of politics or history. We might have been shit bastards in the past, but we always will be shit bastards if you cunts can't get your heads out of your arse. You cunts are the reason for a lot of terrible things, your self-flagellation is self-fulfilling.

Anyway we started off pretty strong, but by the looks of it Denmark are all over us right now, England's defence is falling apart like a set of schoolboys, just holding its arms up and going WHERE WO YER?! WHERE WO YER?! which is traditionally our downfall.
>> No. 9380 Anonymous
7th July 2021
Wednesday 8:33 pm
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Bloody Hell, Erikson keeling over was the best thing that could have happened to this lot.

>>9379
Please stop psychoanalising an entire country because of pre-match nerves.
>> No. 9381 Anonymous
7th July 2021
Wednesday 8:34 pm
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>>9379

Fuck yeah, England will win the sports if you all just believe.
>> No. 9382 Anonymous
7th July 2021
Wednesday 8:35 pm
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>>9379

>For everyone who believes in their country,

What does this mean? Define a belief in your country.

>We never will anything and nothing will ever improve as long as you cunts consciously wish not to.

Yes, if I think positive thoughts it makes big football man kick ball better. Everyone knows that.

Aside from that, have you not noticed that people are indeed celebrating the wins? "it's coming home", didn't you hear?
>> No. 9383 Anonymous
7th July 2021
Wednesday 8:37 pm
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GO ON MY SON!
>> No. 9384 Anonymous
7th July 2021
Wednesday 8:41 pm
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>>9380

But it's an entirely valid analysis outside the realms of football. Football just brings it out when shiteing middle class tossers have to wrestle with an urge of disgusting irresistible patriotism causing a lump in their throat.
>> No. 9385 Anonymous
7th July 2021
Wednesday 8:43 pm
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Do I even want us to win now we've conceded? Yes, but it has lessened that desire.

>>9384
I said stop.
>> No. 9386 Anonymous
7th July 2021
Wednesday 8:45 pm
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>>9384

Outside of football, the improvement of our country is still not achieved by well-wishes, it's achieved by systemic political change.
>> No. 9387 Anonymous
7th July 2021
Wednesday 8:46 pm
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>>9384

It's those dang fake gamer-classes coming into ARE hobbies and spoiling it for all the men - I mean, for all the blue collar workers. Shut up you mug.
>> No. 9388 Anonymous
7th July 2021
Wednesday 8:50 pm
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It's a good job Kjær put the ball in his own net. If it had fallen to Sterling he'd have kicked it directly at Schmeichel.
>> No. 9389 Anonymous
7th July 2021
Wednesday 8:52 pm
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>>9386
>it's achieved by systemic political change

Good thing Boris got us out the EU then.
>> No. 9390 Anonymous
7th July 2021
Wednesday 8:52 pm
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>>9386

Which is, whichever way you look at it, not achieved by utterly hating your own existence. Why do you think Labour have been slowly imploding over the course of a decade. There's definitely the grain of truth here and I would say that's probably why you're all reacting so strongly.

Tight game though, if we do clinch this it's going to be by the skin of our teeth. Denmark are on really very good form, a slow start but they were dominating us for a lot of the last 30 minutes.
>> No. 9391 Anonymous
7th July 2021
Wednesday 9:06 pm
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>>9390
Fuck off, you off topic twat.
>> No. 9392 Anonymous
7th July 2021
Wednesday 9:13 pm
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My current prediction is there will be extra time, but no penalties. I don't know who will score in extra time but I suspect it might be Denmark.
>> No. 9393 Anonymous
7th July 2021
Wednesday 9:15 pm
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If Michael Keaton chews any harder I think he might break his jaw.
>> No. 9394 Anonymous
7th July 2021
Wednesday 9:20 pm
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>>9393
u wot m8
>> No. 9395 Anonymous
7th July 2021
Wednesday 9:21 pm
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What is Wenger thinking sending Walcott on this early?
>> No. 9396 Anonymous
7th July 2021
Wednesday 9:23 pm
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>>9392

England seem to have the upper hand but they can't finish it off, it's that thing where the only chance we're getting it past that keeper is a lucky corner or free kick. If it goes into extra time, it's just a matter of time until the England defence crumbles.
>> No. 9397 Anonymous
7th July 2021
Wednesday 9:42 pm
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They're mad for shirt pulling these Danes.
>> No. 9398 Anonymous
7th July 2021
Wednesday 9:56 pm
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>>9397

Giving away a lot of free kicks.

Actually feeling slightly optimistic now, we were all over them towards the end of that last half. Trouble is getting it in the bloody net, they're afraid to take a shot.

This is a weird feeling though, watching England play real football instead of just pissing about half-arsedly is a new thing in my life.
>> No. 9399 Anonymous
7th July 2021
Wednesday 10:11 pm
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Don't fuck us on this, VAR.
>> No. 9400 Anonymous
7th July 2021
Wednesday 10:13 pm
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Denmark playing for penalties, I don't think they were expecting one so soon.
>> No. 9401 Anonymous
7th July 2021
Wednesday 10:13 pm
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Course he bodges the penalty, hahaha.
>> No. 9402 Anonymous
7th July 2021
Wednesday 10:39 pm
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ITZ

CUMMIN

OAAAAAM

What now eh? God you lot are going to hate it if we win.
>> No. 9403 Anonymous
7th July 2021
Wednesday 10:47 pm
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Absolutely chuffed to be in the final. Honestly not sure we can beat Italy though, feel like we're rocking to the Formula 1 season in a Formula 2 car.

Blimey, England in a final, fantastic.
>> No. 9404 Anonymous
7th July 2021
Wednesday 10:55 pm
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Will the carnage be worse if we win or if we lose? I know there was a lot of criminal damage when we made it into the semis at World Cup 2018, and I imagine being in the finals will feed that. If we lose it will be angry chaos. If we win it'll be joyful chaos, with a side of smugness and English exceptionalism.
>> No. 9405 Anonymous
7th July 2021
Wednesday 10:55 pm
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FODBOLD KOMMER HJEM, DEN KOMMER, FODBOLD KOMMER HJEM.
>> No. 9406 Anonymous
7th July 2021
Wednesday 10:56 pm
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I think we were incredibly lucky on that. If Denmark had scored one less goal we'd be living a different story.

>But we kept possession

Yeah but we weren't scoring against that beast Schmeichel.

>>9402
>What now eh? God you lot are going to hate it if we win

Was thinking about when we got pictures of Boris in kit. He's now lobbying to host the World Cup between UK and Ireland.
>> No. 9407 Anonymous
7th July 2021
Wednesday 10:58 pm
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>>9404
I'm not sure what's going to happen with everything shutting after the match. Could go either way.
>> No. 9408 Anonymous
7th July 2021
Wednesday 11:04 pm
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>>9403
>Honestly not sure we can beat Italy though

Sterling falls over in the box, the ball rebounds off his arse and trickles over the line.
>> No. 9409 Anonymous
7th July 2021
Wednesday 11:05 pm
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>>9408
The beautiful game.
>> No. 9410 Anonymous
7th July 2021
Wednesday 11:06 pm
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I know certain people are saying this jokingly, but yes, I fully expect to hate all English people by the weekend. We've already ruined the perfect Denmark story, with an incredibly soft penalty, that we missed anyway, and now we're all in for several days of absolutely everyone in the country claiming that England are the unbeatable force and the unquestionable best at everything. It's going to be like living in Barcelona ten years ago, or in America at any time.

Help us, Scotland. You're our only hope.
>> No. 9411 Anonymous
7th July 2021
Wednesday 11:10 pm
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>>9410
It's shit when your national team are good at something, isn't it.
>> No. 9412 Anonymous
7th July 2021
Wednesday 11:13 pm
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>>9410

>We've already ruined the perfect Denmark story,

So what. Denmark didn't go 55 years without a title.
>> No. 9413 Anonymous
7th July 2021
Wednesday 11:15 pm
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>>9410
Denmark sabotaged themselves by taking off Dolberg and Damsgaard about 70 minutes in. They offered nothing after that.
>> No. 9414 Anonymous
7th July 2021
Wednesday 11:19 pm
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>>9410
Problematically, we were playing much better in the second half. I'm glad it didn't go to pens, they're nothing but a spectacle. I'd rather we hadn't got a shit penalty, but we did and Schmeichel couldn't hold it.

Everyone will shut up when the Italians win though, so it's fine.
>> No. 9416 Anonymous
8th July 2021
Thursday 12:04 am
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>>9414

>Everyone will shut up when the Italians win though, so it's fine.

If they win. The way we've beaten the odds in this championship, it just might happen that we'll win against Italy as well.

I've got a bet with my friends, and my hopes were on Spain. My best friend was betting on Italy, so it's going to be a bit weird for him now. We're all in it with five quid each, so if we lose, at least he'll get 30 quid.
>> No. 9417 Anonymous
8th July 2021
Thursday 12:05 am
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For fuck's sake.
>> No. 9418 Anonymous
8th July 2021
Thursday 7:24 am
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Genuinely happy and excited we got to a final. Was an ordeal of a game as it always is with England in important fixtures.

Also glad it pisses of miserable twats like >>9410

>we're all in for several days of absolutely everyone in the country claiming that England are the unbeatable force and the unquestionable best at everything.

Apart from maybe some silly headlines in the shitrags and some idiots on social media this isn't really a thing though. No one seriously thinks we're some unbeatable team, in fact I'd say most people reasonably think that Italy probably have better odds to beat us. But we can at least have a bit of hope and enjoy it.

At least some of us who aren't miserable misanthropes with shrivelled hearts can.
>> No. 9419 Anonymous
8th July 2021
Thursday 10:00 am
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>>9418

>At least some of us who aren't miserable misanthropes with shrivelled hearts can.

I am a miserable misanthrope with shrivelled hearts, but even I'm not going to begrudge people getting a bit excited over the first England tournament final in most of our lives.

That's the part that needs emphasis really, because nobody (fucking absolutely nobody, seriously) is out there thinking England are unstoppable, destined to win, greatest team of all time. The context of this is nearly six decades of consistent mediocrity. We have all grown up expecting England to be shit, so it's twice the thrill when we're actually good.

At the end of the day though, it's only football, that's the bit that baffles me. Apart from a few over-enthusiastic revellers it's mostly just harmless fun. What's the problem with getting in the spirit a bit? Do our counterparts over on the continent have this problem? I somehow doubt it.

We just have a lot of tossers who can't seem to see a distinction between blokes kicking a ball around a field, and wanting to bring back the Empire.
>> No. 9420 Anonymous
8th July 2021
Thursday 10:23 am
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>>9419
I'm not particularly fussed either way about the wins, it's even quite interesting to see how people behave around it but
>At the end of the day though, it's only football, that's the bit that baffles me. Apart from a few over-enthusiastic revellers it's mostly just harmless fun.
Is it? There are adverts up all over saying how it's "not just a game". Then there are statistics like the one posted earlier on about the rises in domestic abuse linked to it, as well as the rise in racial violence correlated with it. Yes, there are tossers who can't see a distinction between kicking a ball around a field and wanting to bring back the Empire but many of those people are the fans. The wins of a national team are inextricably linked to patriotism and like it or not, patriotism is inextricably linked to hate crime.
I don't know. It seems like there are real issues here and rather than dealing with them, the ire is pointed at people who bring them up. Shooting the messenger.
>> No. 9421 Anonymous
8th July 2021
Thursday 10:37 am
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>>9419
> blokes kicking a ball around a field
If that's all it was, then fine.

But it's not. The institutions and organisations that surround football are corrupt from the shitehouse local league all the way up to FIFA.

The violence that football spurs is unparalleled in any other mass sport. Sure, firm culture might be dead in the UK but the italian Ultras kill each other. The amount of pro-fascist stickers I see living near Old Trafford stadium is mental. When England WIN, wife beating goes up by 26%, and when they lose, it goes up by 38%.

Thankfully amongst younger people this isn't as big of an issue but among a lot of our culture, if you are simply not interested in football then you're seen as a wrong'un. I've been called a homoqueer and told my dad didn't raise me right for simply saying I didn't really support any team.

English fans booing other countries' national anthems, booing their own team taking the knee (whether you support the action or not, booing them just makes them more likely to do it, no?), and doing bad-faith shit like shining a laser pointer in the opposition team's goalkeeper's eye really is just embarassing.
>> No. 9422 Anonymous
8th July 2021
Thursday 10:55 am
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>>9421

I think it's a bit of an issue of correlation with causation. It reminds me of the debates you get around videogame violence, or objectification of women in movies.

You can't argue with the fact these things are linked, we have the figures; but what I dispute is that football is the cause. These are obviously people who are, for whatever reason, in need of a violent outlet, and if it wasn't football, it'd be something else. There are issues there linked to poverty, inadequate mental health facilities, that old chestnut of poisonous muscularity, and so on. I think when we blame it on the footy, or the games, or the movies, or the rolemodel of musicians and other celebrity influencers etc, it's just that we're not looking hard enough. We're scapegoating.

Of course it's disappointing that some of our fans behave dishonourably and seemingly give us a bad reputation overseas. But it seems to me this is a kind of inverse nationalism. As a sensible, right thinking individual, you don't associate (just as the first example that comes to mind) all Laplanders as kiddy-fiddlers, right? So while it is disappointing we have our share of bad eggs, I don't think it's right to feel as though that's all we are represented by, and have your entire relationship with your national identity dictated by it.

And yes, I will say it, I think there's a degree of classism inherent in the stereotype of the lager-lout sunburned England fan in Benidorm with a bulldog tattoo on his beer gut, even though he's very much a real person.
>> No. 9423 Anonymous
8th July 2021
Thursday 11:05 am
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>>9421
>English fans booing other countries' national anthems, booing their own team taking the knee (whether you support the action or not, booing them just makes them more likely to do it, no?), and doing bad-faith shit like shining a laser pointer in the opposition team's goalkeeper's eye really is just embarassing.

Londoners are cunts, basically. The worst fans in the country, the likes of Millwall and Chelsea, invariably come from London.
>> No. 9424 Anonymous
8th July 2021
Thursday 11:29 am
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Regardless of the social analysis determing whether or not the English are even deserving of pleasure, it is lovely to have a team that's not completely pathetic. I'm torn between whether or not I actually enjoy that more than winning the whole thing. For about a decade the England squad would come apart like an aeroplane made of damp plywood and held together with Pritt Stick the moment things got rough. However, now we've got a team that not only don't let things get rough, if they do, like when the opposition score a brilliant free kick, they stay on task and get it done anyway. In a way we proved that already in 2018, but it's great to see it wasn't a fluke, or a perfect cocktail of players never to be seen again.

Also we ought to hang the lad with the laser pointer from Nelson's column. It will prove that even in our base, English, savagery there is justice of a sort.
>> No. 9425 Anonymous
8th July 2021
Thursday 12:39 pm
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We probably should have that penalty cancelled thanks to the laser pointer and automatically lose if I'm honest. I say that despite the fact I'd lose money for it.

>>9421
>I've been called a homoqueer and told my dad didn't raise me right for simply saying I didn't really support any team.

Sounds more like you got bottom-flustered by someone taking the piss tbh.

>>9424
What I like about the team now is how we've lost much of the drama queen nature that was prevalent during the Rooney years. The England team used to be a bunch of inconvenienced club players who stuck to their respective clubs in the team and couldn't wait to go back home.

Now they actually seem like human beings working together to win.
>> No. 9426 Anonymous
8th July 2021
Thursday 12:54 pm
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>>9425
The penalty should have been cancelled because there wasn't actually a foul. Then again, technically Denmark should have retaken their free-kick.
>> No. 9427 Anonymous
8th July 2021
Thursday 12:58 pm
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>>9426
There should never have been a free-kick. We need to remove humans from the equation.
>> No. 9428 Anonymous
8th July 2021
Thursday 1:28 pm
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What are the possible sanctions UEFA might impose for the laser pointer incident etc?
>> No. 9429 Anonymous
8th July 2021
Thursday 2:17 pm
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On balance, the penalty itself wasn't all that justified. However, the Danes were playing very aggressively during that second half, and the ref let a lot of their nasty tackles go. We were playing quite a clean game by contrast, except that one header where Magiure elbowed the cunt right in the eye. So overall I reckon it was fair.

The bigger problem is that while we were doing a good job keeping control and staying on the attack, we weren't making that many good attempts. There was a lot of getting up in the box and then just pissing about and letting it go, instead of striking when the chance is there. That won't fly against Italy.
>> No. 9430 Anonymous
8th July 2021
Thursday 2:23 pm
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>>9428
A small fine. UEFA is interested in being seen to do something.
>> No. 9431 Anonymous
8th July 2021
Thursday 2:25 pm
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>>9429
Maguire jumped in the air, was he supposed to keep his arms locked against his sides? Total refball imo.
>> No. 9438 Anonymous
8th July 2021
Thursday 9:40 pm
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It has occurred to me that Priti Patel has the power to decide the result of the final. She can just deport the Italian squad for some bullshit reason and they'll forfeit the match when they fail to turn up.

UEFA's reluctance to get involved in politics will mean the It's Coming Home Office would surely get away with it.
>> No. 9439 Anonymous
8th July 2021
Thursday 9:50 pm
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>>9429
The penalty given for the challenge on Sterling wasn't a pen, a more firm VAR ref would have probably overruled the ref on the pitch, but you know the stakes.

The earlier shout on Kane, however, is a pen all day.
>> No. 9440 Anonymous
8th July 2021
Thursday 10:30 pm
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>>9438
I'm not sure if she'd be able to stop herself and she'd end up deporting half the English team as well.
>> No. 9441 Anonymous
9th July 2021
Friday 12:30 am
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>>9439
>a more firm VAR ref would have probably overruled the ref on the pitch
They can only suggest he overrules his own decision and even then, only if he has made a clear and obvious error. They can't change on field decisions, which is why linesmen don't raise the flag until the ball goes out of play. You only see VAR make decisions on goals when it's offside and the linesman isn't sure or making the referee aware of something they missed, but otherwise they can only suggest things.
>> No. 9443 Anonymous
9th July 2021
Friday 1:09 pm
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If Italy test positive for coronavirus, will they have to withdraw and then England win that way?
>> No. 9444 Anonymous
9th July 2021
Friday 1:43 pm
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>>9443
It's a bold plan but your mum would only end up giving it to the England team as well.
>> No. 9445 Anonymous
9th July 2021
Friday 2:42 pm
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Noticed that we're now getting better odds on England winning the tournament than before the match with Denmark. Do they know something we don't?
>> No. 9446 Anonymous
9th July 2021
Friday 2:59 pm
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>>9445
Wtf lad. Once you're in the final, you have a better chance than before that.
>> No. 9447 Anonymous
9th July 2021
Friday 4:05 pm
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>>9446
Exactly - was 11/8 now 13/8. I cashed out earlier and put the same bet on free money.
>> No. 9449 Anonymous
9th July 2021
Friday 4:35 pm
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>>9447
Those odds don't look right for the tournament winner. I think you're betting on the full time result (at which point the tournament can continue).
>> No. 9450 Anonymous
9th July 2021
Friday 4:39 pm
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>>9447 >>9449
Or in other words if England win in extra time you lose your bet.
>> No. 9451 Anonymous
10th July 2021
Saturday 4:15 pm
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Is there a third-place playoff match in this tournament? Or have they just abandoned that? I haven't seen any mention of it anywhere so far, and it should presumably be today if it exists.
>> No. 9452 Anonymous
10th July 2021
Saturday 4:34 pm
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>>9451
The European Championship last featured a third-place playoff in 1980.
>> No. 9453 Anonymous
10th July 2021
Saturday 4:43 pm
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Before the tournament started, I got better odds on England finishing second than I did on them winning the lot. Put a cheeky $25 on both, hoping I can cash out the runner-up bet early. Sports betting in the US is such a taboo that I practically have to know a secret handshake to access the app on my phone.

>>9452
The game isn't even on the official UEFA app.
>> No. 9454 Anonymous
10th July 2021
Saturday 5:33 pm
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>>9453
Just read >>9452 again and realised I've made a tit of myself.
>> No. 9455 Anonymous
10th July 2021
Saturday 7:57 pm
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>>9454
No one remembers third place play-offs so it's entirely reasonable to forget when there isn't one, if that makes sense, which I'm not sure it does. I was trying to recall the one at the 2018 World Cup and it took me a moment to remember who played in it, which is funny because it was England (and Belgium).
>> No. 9456 Anonymous
10th July 2021
Saturday 7:58 pm
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24 hours from now it's coming home.
>> No. 9457 Anonymous
10th July 2021
Saturday 8:28 pm
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Why does everyone have worse football songs than us?

>> No. 9458 Anonymous
10th July 2021
Saturday 8:31 pm
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>>9457
I dunno, mate.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoMhkYlS33c
>> No. 9459 Anonymous
11th July 2021
Sunday 12:40 am
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Many foreign football songs are actually better than the official Euro 2021 England song:



I bet none of you even knew that song existed, which just goes to show how much Gareth Southgate has exceeded expectations.
>> No. 9460 Anonymous
11th July 2021
Sunday 2:00 am
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It's coming home. Maths says so.

>> No. 9461 Anonymous
11th July 2021
Sunday 2:43 am
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No doubt I'll jinx it immediately, but Messi's five minutes away from winning his first trophy with Argentina, so that's nice too.
>> No. 9462 Anonymous
11th July 2021
Sunday 5:12 pm
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>>9459
Foreign? Haha.
>> No. 9463 Anonymous
11th July 2021
Sunday 5:57 pm
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>>9459
>which just goes to show how much Gareth Southgate has exceeded expectations.

I wish he'd pulled a rabbit out the hat for the World Cup to be honest. UEFA is great but to me this feels like a win would be a Branson "space" flight; yeah it's come home but not really and there's not been the right atmosphere.

Plus this is going to be a nightmare for Covid infections at a time of worrying trends - I bet Southgate didn't think of that did he, the 'orrible bastard.
>> No. 9464 Anonymous
11th July 2021
Sunday 7:21 pm
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Is "chimpout" a racist term? I feel like England fans are currently chimping out in London throwing shit about making a mess. They're mostly white, so I'm not making "black people = ape" comparisons. But I don't want to use a racist term unintentionally.
>> No. 9465 Anonymous
11th July 2021
Sunday 7:43 pm
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>>9464
I don't think it's necessarily racist, but it's rare to see it used other than describing black people so if you use it people will think you're racist.

I doubt I'd ever use ape-like fists outside of this website.
>> No. 9466 Anonymous
11th July 2021
Sunday 8:04 pm
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FUCKING HELL!
>> No. 9467 Anonymous
11th July 2021
Sunday 8:04 pm
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Hope you're ready for a tense night lads.

Holy shitballs though a goal within two minutes?!
>> No. 9468 Anonymous
11th July 2021
Sunday 8:12 pm
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IT'S FUCKIN CUMMIN OME TO INGURLAND!
>> No. 9469 Anonymous
11th July 2021
Sunday 8:13 pm
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Watch the football, it's gonna move!
>> No. 9470 Anonymous
11th July 2021
Sunday 8:15 pm
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>>9465
> I doubt I'd ever use ape-like fists outside of this website.
Well someone certainly did, who seems to have an interest in something that has had a thread here.
>> No. 9471 Anonymous
11th July 2021
Sunday 8:25 pm
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Why does Pickford always look like one of Limmy's vines.
>> No. 9472 Anonymous
11th July 2021
Sunday 8:27 pm
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LIQUID FOOTBALL
>> No. 9473 Anonymous
11th July 2021
Sunday 8:33 pm
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>>9472
Foot like a traction engine, that lad.
>> No. 9474 Anonymous
11th July 2021
Sunday 8:47 pm
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https://twitter.com/NewsForAllUK/status/1414269139397586944

Glad to see supercar drivers in London getting what they're owed.

>>9464
Yes, it's literally lifted from a racist comic from the 90s describing black people being overcome with anger when you're racist to them.
>> No. 9475 Anonymous
11th July 2021
Sunday 8:56 pm
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>>9471
Pickford is clearly the kid from This Is England.
>> No. 9476 Anonymous
11th July 2021
Sunday 9:13 pm
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Itll be 1-0 til the last 2 minutes.
>> No. 9477 Anonymous
11th July 2021
Sunday 9:22 pm
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Right I'm off for a piss, thank me after.
>> No. 9478 Anonymous
11th July 2021
Sunday 9:30 pm
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Well that's us buggered.

They'll probably win 2-1.
>> No. 9479 Anonymous
11th July 2021
Sunday 9:30 pm
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Knew that corner was going in. You could just see it.
>> No. 9480 Anonymous
11th July 2021
Sunday 9:43 pm
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First spot of real Italian theatrics we have seen so far. Good show.
>> No. 9481 Anonymous
11th July 2021
Sunday 9:54 pm
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Any moment now.
>> No. 9482 Anonymous
11th July 2021
Sunday 10:08 pm
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Someone reboot Southgate, he's locked up.
>> No. 9483 Anonymous
11th July 2021
Sunday 10:09 pm
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Retire, you pair of old bastards!
>> No. 9484 Anonymous
11th July 2021
Sunday 10:39 pm
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Not looking forward to penalties.
>> No. 9485 Anonymous
11th July 2021
Sunday 10:42 pm
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I mean, we all knew it would be right down to the wire. Penalties are written in the fates for us, always have been, always will be. It's like our gypsy curse or whatever it is, that Greek tragedy kind of thing. Ours is penalties.
>> No. 9486 Anonymous
11th July 2021
Sunday 10:43 pm
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Believe in it coming home.
>> No. 9487 Anonymous
11th July 2021
Sunday 10:49 pm
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FOOTBALL'S COMING HOME.

Unless Sterling fluffs his kick.
>> No. 9488 Anonymous
11th July 2021
Sunday 10:54 pm
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Rashford will be the most hated man in England by tomorrow.
>> No. 9489 Anonymous
11th July 2021
Sunday 10:54 pm
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Fucking cancel all school meals for that shit.
>> No. 9490 Anonymous
11th July 2021
Sunday 10:54 pm
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Well, we tried.
>> No. 9491 Anonymous
11th July 2021
Sunday 10:55 pm
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Ahhh well.
>> No. 9492 Anonymous
11th July 2021
Sunday 10:56 pm
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Why would you send a 19 year old up there? Christ alive.
>> No. 9493 Anonymous
11th July 2021
Sunday 10:57 pm
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Thank fuck for that.
>> No. 9494 Anonymous
11th July 2021
Sunday 11:03 pm
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Qatar, here we come.
>> No. 9495 Anonymous
11th July 2021
Sunday 11:03 pm
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Rashford, Sancho and Saka should be publicly hanged.
>> No. 9496 Anonymous
11th July 2021
Sunday 11:05 pm
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>>9495
Just mental to have someone that young take the final pen AND bring on another one to do it. Look at Maguire, he's had so many knocks to the head he can't even get nervous. The wee'uns were too raw for this.
>> No. 9497 Anonymous
11th July 2021
Sunday 11:10 pm
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>>9496

I suppose Southgate has been near infallible up until this point, his other questionable decisions have always paid off. This was just a bridge too far.

Still though. When you're at penalties in an historic final you don't play silly buggers.
>> No. 9498 Anonymous
11th July 2021
Sunday 11:11 pm
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Someone is on karaoke nearby singing shove your carbonara up your arse.
>> No. 9499 Anonymous
11th July 2021
Sunday 11:13 pm
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Were the Afro-Caribbean fellows legitimately the best choices or were they put on out of political reasons?
>> No. 9500 Anonymous
11th July 2021
Sunday 11:17 pm
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Does Rashford's shit penalty cancel out the school meals stuff? He is a hero or a villain?
>> No. 9501 Anonymous
11th July 2021
Sunday 11:17 pm
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>>9499

No, don't be daft. They were put on out of the strategic gambit that they'd spent the match on the bench and had fresh legs.

It didn't work out because it failed to account for the fact they collectively have piss all experience in penalties.
>> No. 9502 Anonymous
11th July 2021
Sunday 11:19 pm
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>>9499
If so Southgate could've done it in the first 15 minutes rather than doing nothing to account for Italian subs.
>> No. 9503 Anonymous
11th July 2021
Sunday 11:40 pm
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Looks like the dregs are already kicking off with the Italian fans.
>> No. 9504 Anonymous
11th July 2021
Sunday 11:43 pm
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>>9501

>because it failed to account for the fact they collectively have piss all experience in penalties

Exactly. If it had worked out, Southgate probably would have gone down in history as the daredevil who led us to victory. But it didn't, and now he'll always be the manager who pissed away our title.
>> No. 9505 Anonymous
11th July 2021
Sunday 11:47 pm
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Oh well. At least I have some new wank material.
>> No. 9506 Anonymous
12th July 2021
Monday 12:00 am
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>>9503
Honestly, I'm usually utterly against mass exterminations, but would we really lose more than a few estate agents if we rounded these people up like the NKVD doing a sweep of Moscow and shot them dead in the closest cells?
>> No. 9507 Anonymous
12th July 2021
Monday 12:06 am
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>>9464
I'm pretty sure it's racist enough that white people cannot chimp out. They probably sperg out, if they are on the autistic spectrum, or otherwise they just go wild. You should invent a new term, "honky out", to describe white chimpouts.
>> No. 9508 Anonymous
12th July 2021
Monday 12:11 am
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>>9499
They discussed this on the ITV coverage, which I watched because their coverage has been better than the BBC's. Jack Grealish took one penalty, years ago, and missed it. Raheem Sterling scored a winning penalty once, but has missed his last three. So there is every chance that Bukayo Saka really was the best hope we had.

As for the stunning coincidence that all three misses were from black players, I'm sure there are other websites discussing this in detail but I am reluctant to read what they have to say because it will be mostly monkey emojis.
>> No. 9509 Anonymous
12th July 2021
Monday 12:18 am
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>>9503
It's a video showing England fans fighting other England fans who tried breaking into the stadium.

>> No. 9510 Anonymous
12th July 2021
Monday 12:38 am
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Why is Southgate good at everything except making substitutions?

>>9464
It is a racist term, coined by racist, for racist purposes. Don't be a tit and instead use some of the thousands of other words. Added bonus that you won't sound like a perma-online weirdo.

>>9471
Apparently he was on outfield player until quite late into his youth, so maybe goalie is just the best he could do but he hates it and that's why he's so pissed off all the time.
>> No. 9511 Anonymous
12th July 2021
Monday 12:40 am
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>>9508
I mean what's the idea here? That black people can't play football? Then why is the Premier League chock full of them? I just don't get dolphin rape in football.
>> No. 9512 Anonymous
12th July 2021
Monday 1:10 am
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I feel devastated for Saka. Genuinely seems like a nice kid and an amazing talent. Should not be shouldering that pressure at 19, never having taken a penalty at the senior level.
>> No. 9513 Anonymous
12th July 2021
Monday 7:05 am
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>>9505

I noticed her too. Glad I wasn't alone.
>> No. 9514 Anonymous
12th July 2021
Monday 7:49 am
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>>9511
The racist stereotype is that black players can reach the top through physical attributes alone but often lack the footballing brain to be truly elite. That's why a player like Walcott was able to use his pace to breeze past people, but his reliance on this meant he'd never needed to develop the likes of his dribbling and positional awareness.

I don't think this argument is as common as it was, particularly with players like Kante about these days, but it gets alluded to when people say things like you'll never see a black player in the intelligent playmaker role like Pirlo.
>> No. 9515 Anonymous
12th July 2021
Monday 8:33 am
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>>9506
First person I've seen identified for being racist about the penalty takers last night is/was an estate agent.
>> No. 9516 Anonymous
12th July 2021
Monday 9:53 am
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Wasn't all bad.
>> No. 9517 Anonymous
12th July 2021
Monday 10:41 am
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At least the implication that we're all wife-beaters will stop. Right?
>> No. 9518 Anonymous
12th July 2021
Monday 10:57 am
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>>9517
What's the joke that, I think, Jimmy Carr said? It's something like beating your wife is like going outside and keying your own car.
>> No. 9519 Anonymous
12th July 2021
Monday 11:56 am
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>>9517

Doesn't domestic violence skyrocket whenever england loses a tournament?
>> No. 9520 Anonymous
12th July 2021
Monday 12:32 pm
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>>9519
Doesn't drop much when they win apparently.
>> No. 9521 Anonymous
12th July 2021
Monday 12:35 pm
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>>9519
It goes up when we lose a match and it goes up when we win and draw as well. Almost like it's not the football that's the problem.
>> No. 9522 Anonymous
12th July 2021
Monday 12:36 pm
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>>9521

Right, but does it go up ~30% in any one day when there's not a match on?
>> No. 9523 Anonymous
12th July 2021
Monday 12:45 pm
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>>9522
My suspicion is it goes up whenever heavy drinking is involved.
>> No. 9524 Anonymous
12th July 2021
Monday 12:50 pm
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>>9521

We must clearly ban footbal in its entirety.

Only way to be sure.
>> No. 9525 Anonymous
12th July 2021
Monday 1:17 pm
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>>9524

Don't be silly! We need to make the footballers do a gesture against domestic violence before the match starts.
>> No. 9526 Anonymous
12th July 2021
Monday 1:33 pm
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I'm beginning to suspect, and don't think I've gone all extremist or anything here, but I'm starting to get a feeling like none of these gestures really do anything at all, and that you actually need material action to tackle issues directly.

At any rate I'm sure those three players are sobbing inconsolably in their gold plated jacuzzis, sipping champagne with tears spoiling the flavour. It's a hard life.
>> No. 9527 Anonymous
12th July 2021
Monday 1:58 pm
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>>9526

>At any rate I'm sure those three players are sobbing inconsolably in their gold plated jacuzzis, sipping champagne with tears spoiling the flavour. It's a hard life.

This is such a tedious take. I get paid very well for my job too, doesn't mean I don't feel bad when I fuck something up, and that goes ten times over if it makes it to the papers.

I'm not sure there's enough gold plating in the world to entirely soothe missing the deciding penalty for your country in front of millions. Obviously, it's a much better situation to be in than wondering where your next meal is coming from, and excessive wealth is disgusting and needs to be eradicated, but that doesn't mean rich people can't feel disappointment or pressure.
>> No. 9528 Anonymous
12th July 2021
Monday 3:31 pm
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>>9527
>I'm not sure there's enough gold plating in the world to entirely soothe missing the deciding penalty for your country in front of millions. Obviously, it's a much better situation to be in than wondering where your next meal is coming from, and excessive wealth is disgusting and needs to be eradicated, but that doesn't mean rich people can't feel disappointment or pressure.

Oh boohoo, I'm sure these celebrities are well aware that things can go wrong and do make millions on the risk. Otherlad has a point that these aren't bloody martyrs, I can also easily fuck up and get in the papers for it but when I do I'm not off to the tropics to get over it.
>> No. 9529 Anonymous
12th July 2021
Monday 4:44 pm
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>>9528

>Oh boohoo, I'm sure these celebrities are well aware that things can go wrong and do make millions on the risk.

That still doesn't take away the sting of defeat. Not sure why you're 'oh boohoo'ing me, I've been pretty clear that excessively rich people shouldn't exist, I do not think they deserve the money they are paid. But if you truly think that you could shoulder the weight of pressure in being the deciding factor in a cup final just based on the emotional support of your wallet, then you have a truly impressive constitution, or more likely are wrong/missing any sense of empathy.
>> No. 9530 Anonymous
12th July 2021
Monday 5:00 pm
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>>9527

You're missing the point.

Of course they feel bad. They're humans, not robots. Nobody is saying that their feelings are invalid.

But what we can say is fuck 'em, they'll get over it. They don't need treating like porcelain dolls, they're not only adults, they're extremely fucking rich adults. Money can't buy happiness, they say, but £30 million per year is a hell of a lot of money.
>> No. 9531 Anonymous
12th July 2021
Monday 5:05 pm
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>>9530

>They don't need treating like porcelain dolls

I don't know who was suggesting that, all I was responding to was the idea that being rich means you will easily 'get over' massively fucking up something, very publicly. I'm sure they will get over it. Though saying that Southgate looked like he was having Blitz flashbacks during those pens so maybe not.
>> No. 9532 Anonymous
12th July 2021
Monday 5:11 pm
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Honestly I wish it had been the white players who missed their shots just so we could take the piss out of them, as they deserve to have done so, without it being racist, and we wouldn't have twats who otherwise wouldn't give the slightest of a shit sticking their oar in.

I don't think anyone would be quite as bothered if it was Jack Grealish getting told to hang himself on Twitter. I mean just try and imagine that alternate tine line, and then try picture yourself giving a shit. You wouldn't.
>> No. 9533 Anonymous
12th July 2021
Monday 5:16 pm
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>>9532

Racist or not, that Rashford shot was fucking diabolical. The other two were at least good honest attempts.
>> No. 9534 Anonymous
12th July 2021
Monday 5:35 pm
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>>9530
>Nobody is saying that their feelings are invalid.
>fuck 'em, they'll get over it

Perhaps there is a distinction here I'm unable to appreciate.
>> No. 9535 Anonymous
12th July 2021
Monday 5:42 pm
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>>9532
>Honestly I wish it had been the white players who missed their shots just so we could take the piss out of them, as they deserve to have done so, without it being racist, and we wouldn't have twats who otherwise wouldn't give the slightest of a shit sticking their oar in.

In fairness to racistlads, if they'd scored it absolutely would be used as a political football.

For the record; I don't think much dolphin rape is actually going on. There's some sock puppet accounts, people outside of England and one or two estate agents but it's on twitter so it's not properly real - even criticism of the players seems mooted and directed at Southgate. Just the media doing it's usual business of attacking England fans when you didn't hear a fucking peep from them when it was fans booing other countries national anthems.
>> No. 9536 Anonymous
12th July 2021
Monday 6:19 pm
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>>9533
Donnarumma didn't even need to take both feet off the ground to save the Saka shot and the Sancho one was in an identical position. They were on target, but they were shit.
>> No. 9537 Anonymous
12th July 2021
Monday 6:29 pm
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>>9533
Yeah, what are you talking about. Rashford was off by a whisper, but objectively Saka and Sancho had worse pens.
>> No. 9538 Anonymous
12th July 2021
Monday 6:36 pm
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>>9537

Nah.
>> No. 9539 Anonymous
12th July 2021
Monday 7:03 pm
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>>9534

I guess that's just called being a bit thick.
>> No. 9540 Anonymous
12th July 2021
Monday 7:37 pm
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>>9535
There's definitely been a lot of people trying to set narratives around this tournament.

I'd say for every arrogant England fan I've seen about a dozen other English people complaining that England fans are arrogant; the latter has clearly outnumbered the former because most English fans had fairly low expectations. After this we then had the pearl clutching about England fans laughing at that German girl crying, having selective memory to forget that Germans definitely did the same about Brazilian fans when they won 7 - 1. Now we've got the outrage over some cunts being racist on Twitter, which has undoubtedly been magnified so people can have a pop at divisive rhetoric used by the Tories.

I don't know when so many people became overly sensitive fannies but I do not like it.
>> No. 9541 Anonymous
12th July 2021
Monday 8:33 pm
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>Marcus Rashford mural defaced after England Euro 2020 defeat

Fuckssake. That's enough out of you, racistlad.

At first glance, I thought the act of defacing was that somebody had taped bin liners over his chin. Which would have been the most pedestrian middle class insult ever attempted.
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12th July 2021
Monday 8:38 pm
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>>9540
It occurred to me recently that patriotism has become poisonous, even if it wasn't before. How many times can you think of when the media, or the government, or a big corporation has instructed you to LUV ARE CONUTRY as part of a scheme to manipulate you? How many times have you seen a normal, reasonable person suddenly be overcome with patriotic fervour just out of innocent goodness? I predict the first number is much bigger than the second number.

>>9541
I live near there. I want to know what they wrote. I also wondered what would happen to the nearby mural of Jordan Henderson, but then I remembered it's not actually Jordan Henderson; it's meant to be Alan Turing and just doesn't look like him.
>> No. 9543 Anonymous
12th July 2021
Monday 8:55 pm
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>>9541
In December, there was a piss-poor crudely drawn cock
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This time, it's hard to tell. Still a CDC, and some words, one of which is bastard.
https://assets.propermanchester.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/12082121/rashford-mural.jpg

I'm not sure there's a mural in the country that doesn't get continuously cocked, piss-poor penalties or no.
>> No. 9544 Anonymous
12th July 2021
Monday 8:56 pm
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>>9542

I just think patriotism is, in itself, a pretty nebulous concept, that can be used for good or for I'll, and that when people talk about it they tend to project their own feelings and political biases onto the framing of the subject.

I am of the general thought that there can be such a thing as positive patriotism. I'm a giant commie so naturally I like the idea of people feeling a shared, common sense of belonging and unity. I think in some ways patriotism can be used to smooth out the fractures between opposing groups within a society, by making them allies in a larger whole. That's me projecting my own ideals onto the concept, and when I see lefty politicians and commentators who appear all but allergic to the very word, it provokes a certain kind of contempt from me.

Undoubtedly of course it's true that patriotism can be deeply dangerous and destructive, we have plenty of examples throughout history. What people are no doubt wary of and defensive against is the potential for patriotism to be used to direct hatred. I just don't necessarily think that's all it can be.

I would argue... Eh. I could probably go on at greater length but this thread is about football.
>> No. 9545 Anonymous
12th July 2021
Monday 8:56 pm
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>>9540
People haven't been complaining about "arrogant" England fans, they've been complaining about a significant number of England fans acting like subnormals on a PCP binge. That was hours before kick-off as well, the shite going on afterwards is just another side to English football "culture" that makes it a pain in the arse for everyone else.
>> No. 9546 Anonymous
12th July 2021
Monday 8:58 pm
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>>9542
>It occurred to me recently that patriotism has become poisonous, even if it wasn't before. How many times can you think of when the media, or the government, or a big corporation has instructed you to LUV ARE CONUTRY as part of a scheme to manipulate you? How many times have you seen a normal, reasonable person suddenly be overcome with patriotic fervour just out of innocent goodness? I predict the first number is much bigger than the second number.

It's a game of football not the Nuremberg rally. Why do I get the feeling you don't give the slightest fuck about what the National put on their cover page?
>> No. 9547 Anonymous
12th July 2021
Monday 8:58 pm
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>>9543

I think it says "Shite in a bastard". They link to this one too which doesn't even need a cock drawn on it, it was created with a chode in place.
>> No. 9548 Anonymous
12th July 2021
Monday 8:59 pm
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>>9546

I can't look at that and not see Bolsonaro.
>> No. 9549 Anonymous
12th July 2021
Monday 9:01 pm
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>>9545
>That was hours before kick-off as well

Oh no, football fans were drinking and making a mess. How could this happen?
>> No. 9550 Anonymous
12th July 2021
Monday 9:03 pm
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>>9545

You're right, you never see that in other countries. It's just us.
>> No. 9551 Anonymous
12th July 2021
Monday 9:16 pm
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>People haven't been complaining about "arrogant" England fans

Yes they fucking have. We've had weeks of it.
>> No. 9552 Anonymous
12th July 2021
Monday 9:26 pm
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>>9546
Because it's hilarious banter that nobody takes seriously. Nobody reads that unknown joke newspaper; the Sun and the Daily Mail are two of the most influential bog rolls in the country.
>> No. 9553 Anonymous
12th July 2021
Monday 10:33 pm
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>>9544
I have always loathed the word "patriotism." It essentially the same thing as nationalism, but it is nationalism from the people who would never be so gauche as to call themselves nationalists. Nationalism which never tries to justify itself. Nationalism has this bad association with death camps and wars, but people want to show they aren't disloyal to the nation, because we do live in a nationalist world, a world where the nation-state takes precedence, and that filters through to everything - but they don't want to think too hard about what that means, so they call themselves a patriot, "I love my country but don't hate anyone else's." Which is all well and good, but that's true of the people of Tuvalu too and they were still nationalists when they voted to be an independent nation rather than part of Kiribati. But because dinner conversationalists are both incapable of self-reflection and familiar with the death of Franz Ferdinand but not Funafuti, here we are stuck with that ugly little euphemism.

All of that aside, manipulative appeals have been around for quite a while: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I%27m_Backing_Britain
They're just more insufferable in the online world of 2021.
>> No. 9554 Anonymous
12th July 2021
Monday 10:58 pm
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>>9553
>The campaign started spontaneously when five Surbiton secretaries volunteered to work an extra half-hour each day without pay to boost productivity and urged others to do the same.
Christ, pre-scabs.
>> No. 9555 Anonymous
12th July 2021
Monday 11:00 pm
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>>9553

They don't mean the same thing, though, do they lad. Patriotism and words like repatriation and so on have roots older than the concept of the nation state. Nationalism is an altogether more specific and modern geo-political concept.
>> No. 9556 Anonymous
12th July 2021
Monday 11:06 pm
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>>9555

Most words have roots older than the concept of a nation state.
>> No. 9557 Anonymous
12th July 2021
Monday 11:20 pm
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>>9555
Why go to the roots of the word and not to their present day meanings?
Contrast Patriotism: the quality of being patriotic; devotion to and vigorous support for one's country.
with Nationalism: 1. identification with one's own nation and support for its interests, especially to the exclusion or detriment of the interests of other nations. 2. advocacy of or support for the political independence of a particular nation or people.

So, a British Patriot is someone who is devoted to Britain and gives it his vigorous support, unlike a British Nationalist, who identifies with Britain and supports its interests. There is more distinction to be found between Coke and Pepsi.
Now of course there's "especially to the exclusion...", which conveys the distaste the word "nationalist" is held in, but you show me any "proud patriot" politician and I'll show you someone who advocates British interests to the exclusion and detriment of others.
>> No. 9558 Anonymous
12th July 2021
Monday 11:37 pm
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>>9553
You don't know what you're talking about.

Patriotism is loyalty to the regime and the most obvious example is the United States.
Nationalism is loyalty to your nation (as in people).

The two can become intermixed where a national identity arises of say, British, combined with the regime becoming a central part of that identity i.e. civic nationalism. Or otherwise when you lazily read Wikipedia.

>>9557
You don't understand the difference between country and nation. Kindly stop posting and put the kettle on.
>> No. 9559 Anonymous
12th July 2021
Monday 11:44 pm
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>>9558
>The two can become intermixed where a national identity arises of say, British, combined with the regime becoming a central part of that identity i.e. civic nationalism
So we're in agreement and the rest of your post superfluous. Kindly stop posting and put your hand on the stove.
>> No. 9560 Anonymous
12th July 2021
Monday 11:48 pm
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>>9559
No, Germans and Italians weren't forming nations based on a parliament.
>> No. 9561 Anonymous
12th July 2021
Monday 11:54 pm
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>>9560
I know we're at "quoting the dictionary" levels of pedantry already, but if you'd like to explain why the British prime minister should call himself a patriot and not a nationalist I'm not sure why "Germany formed a parliament based on a nation, while we formed a nation based on a parliament" is the place you've chosen to start.
>> No. 9562 Anonymous
13th July 2021
Tuesday 12:11 am
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>>9561
>if you'd like to explain why the British prime minister should call himself a patriot and not a nationalist

He represents and (some might even suggest) genuinely supports the UK parliamentary regime. To go back to America, there is no American nation because the very concept is absurd and they've instead founded their country on patriotism which has been successfully used to assimilate immigrants from all over the place.

You can even see the impact of this patriotism in how Americans maintain tribal identities like Irish-American or African-American.

>I'm not sure why "Germany formed a parliament based on a nation, while we formed a nation based on a parliament" is the place you've chosen to start.

Because it very easily delineates what is and isn't nationalism. The history of German nationalism held strong tones of irredentism and a sense of German-ness that conflicted with existing states (Deutschland über alles after all).

British patriotism meanwhile is a strange animal fostered by gluing existing nations together along with an emergent British nationalism at the time of Union.
>> No. 9563 Anonymous
13th July 2021
Tuesday 12:36 am
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>>9562
I would dispute that there is no American nation, or that nations can't be artificially constructed. If we recognise the existence of American nationalism (one president even openly proclaimed it!), it doesn't take a huge amount of working backwards that there must therefore be an American nation. Singapore also stands out as a country which quite directly went about building up a sense of national identity.
Getting back to Britain, the British prime minister also supports the continued existence of a single British nation-state, running up against Scottish, Irish and Welsh nationalists in the process. But he'll never call himself a nationalist on camera even though he's at a minimum both a nationalist and a patriot.

That, and if we're going down the "patriotism is support for the regime, nationalism is loyalty to the nation" route then in many modern cases patriotism stands out as the more corrosive force with only moderate application of selection bias: Contrast the large amount of patriotic support for our involvement in the Iraq war with the equally large regional-nationalist opposition to it.
>> No. 9564 Anonymous
13th July 2021
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Loving your country, as a patriot, is a lot like loving your mother. Of course you should do it. And if other people insult your country, or your mother, you should defend what you care about. It's the right thing to do. But if I'm talking about football, and someone comes up to me and aggressively insists at length that they really, really love their mum, then I absolutely reserve the right to think that person is a bit weird and possibly mental. It's not the love that's wrong; it's the preoccupation with the love.
>> No. 9565 Anonymous
13th July 2021
Tuesday 5:50 am
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During the Troubles, both sides would most certainly call themselves patriots. They both had a love for, and belief in, their respective country. However it can only be said that one of the sides was nationalist. The republicans were nationalists. By definition, the loyalists were not nationalists.

Consider the EU referendum. If you voted for remain because you believe it was what's best for Britain, that was an act of patriotism. You wanted the best for yourself and your countrymen. But it was not a nationalist act. Voting leave was both a patriotic and a nationalist act.

I understand it might be a bit too subtle to be of much use to you when you want to make crass, reductive hot takes at the expense of those nasty footy louts, but there is definitely a distinction. Now fuck off.
>> No. 9566 Anonymous
13th July 2021
Tuesday 6:40 am
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>>9565

>By definition, the loyalists were not nationalists

Aren't they loyal to the nation they believe their country is part of?
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13th July 2021
Tuesday 7:13 am
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As far as I can tell, it says:

Fuck. Fuck Sancho. Shite in a sock. Bastard.

Then they've drawn a cock on him.
>> No. 9568 Anonymous
13th July 2021
Tuesday 7:25 am
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>>9565
>By definition, the loyalists were not nationalists.
By your definition (or perhaps by a deft substitution of dictionary definition 1 with dictionary definition 2). We only call one side nationalist because it's practical, not because it's true. The alternative is to adopt a worldview where if we went and reconquered Brittany successfully, we would not be "nationalists" for doing so but the Frenchmen living there would be nationalists for occasionally trying to get rid of us.

But then I can see why you might have trouble with words, given you think that I was making crass, reductive hot takes at the expense of footy louts and not at the expense of middle class dinner guests and braindead politicians. Which of those two are you, I wonder? Whichever it is, please keep up your usual habit of not looking both ways before running across the road.
>> No. 9569 Anonymous
13th July 2021
Tuesday 7:33 am
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>>9566

No, they are loyal to a union of nations which, in theory, all put their own individual importance below that of the union. They are unionists.

You can question who's really running that union, but that's a different argument.
>> No. 9570 Anonymous
13th July 2021
Tuesday 7:39 am
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>>9569
It's unlikely that anybody is going to learn anything interesing by us looping back around into the messy subject of British nationhood so I refer you to the reply given in Arkell and Pressdram.
>> No. 9571 Anonymous
13th July 2021
Tuesday 7:57 am
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>>9567
Is that racist? It's certainly being mean to a minoritylad, but it looks more like someone's frustrated by his penalty taking ineptitude than his colour.

Big 'inspiring' murals like that surely get cocks drawn on them 24/7. Human nature, innit.
>> No. 9572 Anonymous
13th July 2021
Tuesday 8:26 am
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>>9570

Don't worry, I'm not about to get into it. The only thing anyone needed to learn is that there is a distinction between nationalism and patriotism, and I think I did prove it adequately there.

The EU example was there for the people who I knew would be sidetracked from the point by the tangled concept of Britain and the UK itself, but is essentially the same point. I see nobody's trying to tackle that one, because it's rock solid.

Dictionarylad can seethe all he wants, he clearly has no idea what he's on about.
>> No. 9573 Anonymous
13th July 2021
Tuesday 8:52 am
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>>9571
It doesn't seem racist to me, either. However, it was reported to the police as being racially motivated so that's what they've told the press they are investigating so people are jumping to the conclusion that it was definitely racist. It doesn't help that most outlets aren't showing a picture of the graffiti, which would let people make their own mind up on it.
>> No. 9575 Anonymous
13th July 2021
Tuesday 9:19 am
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>>9572
I see your bait and I raise you my own: I'll give you a reply if you photograph your hand on the stove as a token of goodwill.
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13th July 2021
Tuesday 9:58 am
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I'm pretty sure that putting three black men's photos on your front cover and referring to them as "aces" of all things is quite a clever and deliberate dog whistle but nobody else seems to have noticed or made that connection.
>> No. 9577 Anonymous
13th July 2021
Tuesday 10:03 am
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>>9567

That mural is creepy as all fuck, it's the sort of thing you'd expect to see in Cuba or North Korea. The slogan "KNOWING THAT YOUR STRUGGLE WILL PLAY THE BIGGEST ROLE IN YOUR PURPOSE" wouldn't look out of place alongside the image of Che or Kim, it's scary how quickly football has become yet another battleground in the phony Culture War. "We poor oppressed blacks must rise up and fight the privileged racist Gammons!"
>> No. 9578 Anonymous
13th July 2021
Tuesday 10:05 am
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>>9577

You're the one making it about race.
>> No. 9579 Anonymous
13th July 2021
Tuesday 10:10 am
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>>9578

Well, the Left were the ones who spent the whole of last summer vandalizing statues of white people and calling them "racist" and then had the audacity to ask "why is the right waging a culture war?" Fuck off, I just want to watch the football without being hectored to CLAP ARE SACRED KNEE FOR ARE SAINT GEORGE FLOYD, the Wokies have politicized football and made it the latest battleground for their culture war bollocks.

(A good day to you Sir!)
>> No. 9581 Anonymous
13th July 2021
Tuesday 10:24 am
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>>9579

Sounds like you're doing more to fuel this "phony" thing than anyone else. Football? Don't you mean soccer, yanklad?
>> No. 9582 Anonymous
13th July 2021
Tuesday 10:34 am
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This thread really has brought out all the biggest freaks. Well, not this thread exactly, but whenever race is discussed on here the talk is overrun with complete weirdos who think London is the final sequence from Django Unchained over and over again and obviously think it ought to look more like most of 12 Years a Slave.

>>9577
>That mural is creepy as all fuck, it's the sort of thing you'd expect to see in Cuba or North Korea.
Hahaha, what an absolute joke of a human you must be. You should see what people have done on the walls of Belfast, mate, your muralphobia would make your head explode.
>> No. 9583 Anonymous
13th July 2021
Tuesday 10:42 am
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As someone who remembers The Bad Old Days, I just think it's remarkable that all the tabloids agree that dolphin rape is bad.
>> No. 9585 Anonymous
13th July 2021
Tuesday 11:39 am
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>>9579
>politicized
>z

Lad.
>> No. 9586 Anonymous
13th July 2021
Tuesday 12:47 pm
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You're always going to get someone out there. What is it, some monkey emojis on Twitter? I haven't even seen an example of the alleged dolphin rape but I bet it was nothing like what the press are making out.

I think you've got to take the good with the bad, and if you're getting paid mullions to kick a ball about, people will give you some stick, and you should be ready to take it on the chin. At the the end of the day it is only some stick, it's not like England fans are going about lynching black Londoners. Are they?

Some people have just got such a stiffy for England being bad. You can tell they're really glad some fans have been racist and that loads of them were drunk and aggressive after the match. It's exactly what they wanted, and they did a bit of a sex wee getting the chance to forecast about it.

I don't know why that's so popular with the papers, if it's good for their overseas market or what, but here's an angle I don't hear much:

What if it creates a feedback loop? England fans behave like cunts because they know everyone's already expecting the worst of them, and no matter how honourably the group behaves as a whole they'll still be tarred with the worst possible brush in the news the next day based on the behaviour of the very worst present.

Kind of ironic actually.
>> No. 9587 Anonymous
13th July 2021
Tuesday 1:16 pm
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>>9586
Just complete nonsense. The racial abuse of football players happens all throughout the regular season so don't rock up not knowing what you're talking about and dismissing it all with a wave of the hand at the same time because it's piss easy to see through what you're doing. The fact that it bursts onto social media the moment a black lad misses a penalty is good evidence for there being an undercurrent of dolphin rape that extends beyond reactions to football. You don't go from zero prejudice to calling Sancho, Rashford and Saka "n*ggers" because you're gutted about the Euros, we know this because lots of people didn't do this who were also gutted about the Euros. You do it because you're a racist. The suggestion at the end of your post that if racists didn't act like racists they would not be labled as such is beyond absurd, although I note that at this point you'd stopped addressing dolphin rape and started talking about the "behavior of England fans", clearly attempting to widen the debate about dolphin rape into the realm of pre and post-match argy-bargy and louishness, which while embarrassing, is not the same problem.

Also did you not go to school? Use paragraphs, you fucking ingrate.
>> No. 9588 Anonymous
13th July 2021
Tuesday 1:23 pm
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>>9586
>I don't know why that's so popular with the papers

Britain loves a bit of moral panic and grandstanding. Nobody could possibly question the disproportionate outrage and they get to play the good lads card bigging up the ARE (football) BOYS.

>Some people have just got such a stiffy for England being bad. You can tell they're really glad some fans have been racist and that loads of them were drunk and aggressive after the match. It's exactly what they wanted, and they did a bit of a sex wee getting the chance to forecast about it.

The biggest tell these days is how you see them mockingly bring up England fans getting beat up in Russia when any violence emerges. They seem incapable of self-reflection on that.

>What if it creates a feedback loop? England fans behave like cunts because they know everyone's already expecting the worst of them, and no matter how honourably the group behaves as a whole they'll still be tarred with the worst possible brush in the news the next day based on the behaviour of the very worst present.

It's been like this since at least '98 so I don't see anything changing. Certainly my oldfag mentality has brought a temptation in me to troll the shit out of country for it - proper trolling that is - but I realise that some utter pork product would track me down, destroy my life and there'd be a campaign in the Sun to make sure my new cellmate hollows me out.
>> No. 9589 Anonymous
13th July 2021
Tuesday 1:30 pm
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>>9587
Absolutely shaking aren't you. Some idiot on twitter being racist is nothing, it's the internet.
>> No. 9590 Anonymous
13th July 2021
Tuesday 1:40 pm
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>>9589
>it's the internet
How are you managing to post from 2007?
>> No. 9591 Anonymous
13th July 2021
Tuesday 1:41 pm
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>>9585
Lad, what? Are you still telling people OED spelling isn't British? Why haven't you stopped doing that years ago?
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13th July 2021
Tuesday 1:44 pm
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The people who've been scrapping in London, trying to break into Wembley without a ticket or being racist are undoubtedly cunts.

There are also cunts who've been wanting to condemn English fans all tournament long, who've undoubtedly spaffed themselves with delight over what happened on Sunday.

I'm a cunt. You're a cunt. Tilly, Tom and Tiny.
>> No. 9593 Anonymous
13th July 2021
Tuesday 1:53 pm
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>>9589
Aye, yeah, every time. I tell someone "you're wrong and you're a grotesquely ugly freak", explain how and why and the response "you're angry aren't you?" comes back like a metronome. I'm very much not, I just very easily and quite quickly took apart your silly post that contained no substance or value. You're probably going say "lol, wasn't even my post", but everything I said still applies. It's still fantasy land stuff and I'm still totally calm.

There's shite all point talking to people on here anymore, because enough sad prats have washed up on our shores from lesser websites that any disagreement or debate is met with the most predictable responses imaginable.

>>9588
>Certainly my oldfag mentality
Imagine being over-40 and saying things like this, it's tragic stuff.
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13th July 2021
Tuesday 1:53 pm
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>>9590
>How are you managing to post from 2007?

It's called not being a complete fanny.
>> No. 9595 Anonymous
13th July 2021
Tuesday 1:56 pm
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>>9594
Tragic, tragic stuff.
>> No. 9596 Anonymous
13th July 2021
Tuesday 2:05 pm
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>>9594
Buy bitcoin.
>> No. 9597 Anonymous
13th July 2021
Tuesday 2:39 pm
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>>9587

>the moment a black lad misses a penalty

You have no way of knowing this is the case, because there was no white lad who missed a penalty to compare it to. If we had a white lad who was being left alone and just the black ones were being bullied, you'd have a point, but that's not the case.

>attempting to widen the debate about dolphin rape into the realm of pre and post-match argy-bargy and louishness, which while embarrassing, is not the same problem.

So you don't thik there's probably some overlap between the yobs who start fights before/after matches, and the ones who call black players the N word? I mean. I'm completely talking out of my arse here, but I am willing to bet substantial money they're the same people.
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13th July 2021
Tuesday 3:35 pm
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13th July 2021
Tuesday 4:30 pm
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>>9597
The argument that I should not believe my lying eyes holds little weight. I've no doubt there's overlap, but the issues are still seperate.
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13th July 2021
Tuesday 4:48 pm
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>>9597
>the N word

Christ, we really are becoming Americanised.
>> No. 9601 Anonymous
13th July 2021
Tuesday 5:08 pm
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It was them impish Indians wot done it!
>> No. 9602 Anonymous
13th July 2021
Tuesday 5:20 pm
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>>9601
The UAE is real!? I thought it was some shit from a sci-fi novel, Jesus Christ.
>> No. 9603 Anonymous
13th July 2021
Tuesday 5:22 pm
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>>9600

What do british people say?
>> No. 9604 Anonymous
13th July 2021
Tuesday 5:41 pm
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I imagine in the pub after the match were Owen Jones and Ash, as well as some other lefties. Now the real match would begin, and it was tense. They were just waiting for it and then... GOAL! The first racist comment. Followed by more and more. Owen puts on a disgusted face but inwardly thinks about the new patreon subscribers he'll get when he posts his pre-written tweet. The Guardian might be failing, but he's doing alright!

Ash puts her hand on my thigh- kinky, but unexpected, given my previous Tory vote. Maybe she is a bit more open minded than I thought. I'm glad I told her that I was 2% Indian, maybe I'll read her some Thomas Sowell when we get back to mine. If I keep up my overhead press I might be able to lift her above my head. Girls like that pretend not to be into that sort of thing, but biology is biology.

Chris Whitty walks past and he feels like he looks on TV. He can't take a joke. He didn't understand that you need to run with it rather than fight against it. The whole MSM didn't either, no one does these days. It's just good intentions all round, no one dares push back. Even the anti-woke brigade fall victim to entropy. It's not that hard: be a good person not a bad person, there's no complexity there.
>> No. 9605 Anonymous
13th July 2021
Tuesday 6:02 pm
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>>9603
As evidenced by the whole John Terry and Anton Ferdinand business, we tend to say "black bastard" or "black cunt" when we're being racist. The fact that you are censoring yourself and find yourself unable to type "nigger" on a British imageboard is worrisome.

It's awfully American to use "nigger" but it's even more septic to stop yourself using it during online discourse, especially when it's part of a general discussion rather than racist vitriol specifically targeted at someone.
>> No. 9606 Anonymous
13th July 2021
Tuesday 6:02 pm
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>>9601
Have you got a source for that please? I've tried reverse image searching it but get nowhere, a long with some google-fu.
>> No. 9607 Anonymous
13th July 2021
Tuesday 6:10 pm
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>>9606
It was someone on Reddit who then deleted his post.

r/soccer/comments/oitrd0/more_than_50_of_last_nights_racial_abuse_came/
>> No. 9608 Anonymous
13th July 2021
Tuesday 6:12 pm
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>>9590
Mate, that's a bit cherrypicked. I didn't know byuu/near personally but we spoke now and then 20 years back when he was working on Der Langrisser. Wonderful guy but he has always had issues.

If you read the full exchange with the admin of Kiwi Farms, he opens the conversation by basically saying "I'll kill myself if you don't accept my money and take down the thread against me". I can completely get where he was coming from, the mindset that can prompt one to think that way, but he handled it terribly and put that lad in a somewhat impossible position - after all, how do you respond to someone saying they'll give you hundreds of thousands of dollars for some mod action, otherwise they'll end it?

He should not have made his life/death contingent on the actions of another person. Regardless of the abuse he suffered, he had agency over that action and could have even potentially got what he wanted if he'd addressed it differently.

Overall, he got relatively little abuse. He had a small thread, but there were some persistent individuals basically stalking him, and that's what escalated things. It wasn't because someone called him something on the internet, it's because of a sustained campaign by individuals over years. RIP, he's been invaluable for the translation and emulation community, and his is a great loss...so don't use his death for pointscoring m8, unless you include the full story.
>> No. 9609 Anonymous
13th July 2021
Tuesday 6:15 pm
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*relatively little in terms of random people abusing him. What he got was a sustained stalking campaign over years by some individuals, it's not really a useful comparison to equate it to the kind of abuse these public figures get, which is more about volume than intensity.

Point being, Saka getting called a 'nigger' online is not the same as the targeted, sustained abuse byuu got. It's still not good, but they're two different things.
>> No. 9610 Anonymous
13th July 2021
Tuesday 6:47 pm
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>>9608
It's an example of things on the internet having real world consequences and nothing you've said contradicts that.
>> No. 9611 Anonymous
13th July 2021
Tuesday 7:05 pm
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>>9610
Is there any evidence at all he's even dead?
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13th July 2021
Tuesday 7:10 pm
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>>9611
Do you need other examples instead?
>> No. 9613 Anonymous
13th July 2021
Tuesday 7:19 pm
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>>9612

I dunno but I don't think google search results are exactly indicative of anything substantial.
>> No. 9614 Anonymous
13th July 2021
Tuesday 7:29 pm
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>> No. 9615 Anonymous
13th July 2021
Tuesday 8:20 pm
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>>9614

Internet is as Internet does.
>> No. 9616 Anonymous
13th July 2021
Tuesday 8:37 pm
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>>9601
Incomprehensible, given that Indians are foreign too.
>> No. 9617 Anonymous
13th July 2021
Tuesday 8:42 pm
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>>9610
>It's an example of things on the internet having real world consequences and nothing you've said contradicts that.

So is every single story about a kid being a little shit online and having some mentalist come round to their house. 'Actions have consequences' is tautological, vague bollocks. When you're comparing two separate actions and two separate consequences, you might want to bear in mind what they are, instead of that reductive shite.

>>9587 - I wasn't being a racist when I was calling people 'nigger' online as a teenager, I was being a cunt. What do you think a racist is?

>Also did you not go to school? Use paragraphs, you fucking ingrate.
Did one of the mods edit your post to remove your paragraphs, or is you insulting yourself a display of wit I can't grasp?
>> No. 9618 Anonymous
13th July 2021
Tuesday 8:43 pm
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>>9610

When I was a kid, it was a normal occurrence for black footballers to get bananas thrown at them and Asian shopkeepers to get dog shit through their letterbox. Race relations in this country have improved beyond recognition over the last 30 years. It's important to acknowledge that success so that we can learn from it. Arguably the biggest factor in that improvement was policing - we drummed the overt racists out of the force and actually enforced the Race Relations Acts.

I've no doubt that many of the people posting racist abuse on Twitter would throw bananas and do monkey chants if they thought they could get away with it, but they know that they'll be spotted by stewards, arrested and banned from the ground.

If people regularly sent racist letters to footballers, we wouldn't ask Royal Mail to open everyone's post and censor all the dolphin rape, we'd get the police to investigate. After a decade of cuts, our police aren't in a position to do much of anything; the CPS and the courts are so under-funded that the cases would probably never go to trial. It's convenient for the government that we're all arguing amongst ourselves in vague terms, but if we agree that internet racists are bad then we need a police force with the resources to enforce the laws we already have.
>> No. 9619 Anonymous
13th July 2021
Tuesday 10:15 pm
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>>9617

>When you're comparing two separate actions and two separate consequences

Okay, so you think the person who committed suicide after being harassed online is a totally unrelated scenario to the other people being harassed online, is the gun I posted covered in Internet memes that was used in a racist massacre after the perpetrator took part in racist online discourse also totally unrelated to this instance of racist online discourse?
>> No. 9620 Anonymous
13th July 2021
Tuesday 10:44 pm
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>>9619

I bet he played violent videogames and watched violent films too. Probably even had a nasty mysoginistic porno habit.

There are so many things out there to influence people that we can't possibly blame them all, or we'd have nothing left.

But what does it matter, we're all dying soon. Trying to stop climate change is a sunk cost fallacy by now.
>> No. 9621 Anonymous
14th July 2021
Wednesday 12:49 am
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>>9619
I'm not sure I consider it fair to compare a professional footballer - by any standards someone who becomes a public figure voluntarily - with an emulator developer, someone who could reasonably expect to live in obscurity outside that specific community.

But then the reason I think that has very little to do with footballers, who aren't generally people I'm comfortable seeing abused and who usually seem to be alright. No, it's politicians and the very-wealthy that I can't stand whinging for sympathy. Being able to call their betters horrible things en-masse is the one leveling force the unwashed masses have left and if those on the receiving end don't like it, they can always retire into obscurity or suck it up and distract themselves by spending some of their gigantic stacks of cash.
>> No. 9622 Anonymous
14th July 2021
Wednesday 1:16 am
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>>9621
>who aren't generally people I'm comfortable seeing abused and who usually seem to be alright

Depends on the man really; I might be a cunt but I've never met a footballer I didn't clash with owing to their egos and attempts at throwing their weight around. There's definitely a few nice lads who are a bit on the spectrum but they're by no means the majority. If anything I might such the bar higher for professional players than the mega-rich as their job really is part PR/role-modelling.

I agree on your general point though, there's a worrying trend of excluding the elites so they can have their cake and eat it as it suits them. We're still the libel capital of the world.
>> No. 9623 Anonymous
14th July 2021
Wednesday 1:25 am
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I walked over to the Rashford mural earlier, since I live nearby. It was probably around 22:30 when I got there, maybe a bit earlier, and there were still people standing around looking thoughtfully at it. The road has been closed, and there are flags and paper hearts and things all around. It's like he's died. It's bloody creepy. There weren't any candles, and maybe no flowers (I didn't stop walking; I didn't want to get sucked into the cultishness) but otherwise it looks like the death of Princess Diana round there.
>> No. 9624 Anonymous
14th July 2021
Wednesday 1:26 am
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If all you have to do to get onto international news is to type an emoji to a footballer then no fucking wonder Russia think it's worth running internet troll campaigns.
>> No. 9625 Anonymous
14th July 2021
Wednesday 2:01 pm
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The current Darren Grimes Twitter saga regarding alleged stealthy classroom-based Onanism is pretty funny.
>> No. 9626 Anonymous
14th July 2021
Wednesday 3:00 pm
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>>9625
If it's going around Twitter, presumably it wasn't as stealthy as he thought.
>> No. 9627 Anonymous
14th July 2021
Wednesday 3:15 pm
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>>9625
Is this a new wordfilter, or is wanking at school the latest political debate purporting to be about football?
>> No. 9628 Anonymous
14th July 2021
Wednesday 3:19 pm
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>>9627
What do you think it's a filter for?
>> No. 9629 Anonymous
14th July 2021
Wednesday 3:23 pm
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>>9628
Murals? Monkey emojis? I can't be sure; I haven't seen the Twitter thread and do not plan to, which is why I asked here. I could see "online harassment" being filtered to "classroom-based onanism" quite easily.
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14th July 2021
Wednesday 3:54 pm
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>>9626

I heard it was during RE and he tried to say that the table rattling was nothing less than 'a ghostly presence' and that all present should vacate the classroom immediately (for about 5 minutes) to fetch a Priest well versed in performing exorcisms. The presence of globular ectoplasm in the classroom later on confirmed his working hypothesis
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14th July 2021
Wednesday 4:11 pm
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>> No. 9632 Anonymous
14th July 2021
Wednesday 11:19 pm
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He's an estate agent, so it's a given he's a massive bellend, but it seems a bit much to arrest him for tweeting 'niggas ruined it for us'.
>> No. 9633 Anonymous
14th July 2021
Wednesday 11:28 pm
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>spent 20 minutes gathering evidence

Imagine having police going through your home for evidence following a mean tweet and then lifting away your laptop. I might just opt to hang myself in that situation.

Hope someone calls the one the guy who tracked him down and ruined his life a bellend. IRL of course where he's powerless.
>> No. 9634 Anonymous
14th July 2021
Wednesday 11:29 pm
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>>9632

If you're doing a dolphin rape on twitter, at least own up to it. There are 16 year olds who have more backbone than that.
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14th July 2021
Wednesday 11:39 pm
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>>9633

Depends on what's on that laptop.

If you keep your videos of barely legal college girls on your laptop hard drive, then that's obviously not a smart thing to do. I try to never leave anything on my laptop which could make me look like a deviant if it ever gets seized, or even just if I lose my laptop on a train.

My tastes in porn, while eclectic, are completely legal, but I still keep my collection on a 1TB external hard drive, for which I have a hiding place in my flat that not even the best coppers are likely to find.
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14th July 2021
Wednesday 11:40 pm
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>>9633
>tracked him down
I mean...
>> No. 9637 Anonymous
15th July 2021
Thursday 12:06 am
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>>9632
>He's an estate agent
Did we throw a rock in the woods and hit a tree or are we manifesting our imageboard in-jokes into reality? Concerning times.
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15th July 2021
Thursday 12:27 am
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>McCarthy

I was just thinking that this is like the script to some low-budget B-movie. Then I discovered that Gerard McCarthy is actually an actor whose resume very much would have him starring in such a film:
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2490263/

Quite unsettling all of this. I think I will go check into a nut house until my reality stops spinning.
>> No. 9639 Anonymous
15th July 2021
Thursday 12:41 am
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>>9636

I'm pretty sure most employers wouldn't even sack you if you called your own boss a nignog. Not unless they were already looking for a reason to shitcan you.

You'd get a disciplinary maybe and maybe miss out on your next payrise or something, but what we are talking about here is name calling and nothing more. The person is made to say they are sorry, is deeply embarrassed for a while, and that's it. They generally learn their lesson.

We are very much over-reacting here when we call for people to have their livelihoods ruined by such a thing. In this country maybe it's not so bad, he'll be able to sign on until people forget about it, but when they do it to people in the States getting someone sacked is as good as a death sentence.

And they say "cancel culture" isn't real.
>> No. 9640 Anonymous
15th July 2021
Thursday 2:58 am
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>>9639
The fact you consider racial slurs the same as any other manner of name calling is quite bizarre. Or it may be very straight forward and you’re a racist, but either way you’re wrong.
>> No. 9641 Anonymous
15th July 2021
Thursday 5:48 am
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>>9640

Go on then, what's different about it?

A real answer please, not just some appeal to hysterical online moral puritanism like I suspect you'll give.
>> No. 9642 Anonymous
15th July 2021
Thursday 7:37 am
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>>9641

>not just some appeal to hysterical online moral puritanism like I suspect you'll give.

Not him, but you're signalling pretty hard that no matter what explanation anyone might give you will refuse to entertain it.
>> No. 9643 Anonymous
15th July 2021
Thursday 8:02 am
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I'm trying to convince my gf that Luke Shaw's goal against Italy hit the post and went in but she doesn't believe me.
>> No. 9644 Anonymous
15th July 2021
Thursday 8:13 am
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>>9637
>Did we throw a rock in the woods and hit a tree or are we manifesting our imageboard in-jokes into reality?

It's not really an in-joke. We've only been posting they are knobheads since that Chris Whitty video.

>>9639
He's brought his company into disrepute. I think I've encountered racist jokes everywhere I've worked, but they've never left the workplace. If you post something racist online using an account with your name and a picture of you clearly linked to it then don't be surprised if you get sacked for bringing negative attention to your employer.
>> No. 9645 Anonymous
15th July 2021
Thursday 10:15 am
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I hear Charlie Perry is going to be made next Manager of the England Squad.
>> No. 9646 Anonymous
15th July 2021
Thursday 4:24 pm
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>>9642

I'll not pretend otherwise. It's not out of the realms of possibility to change my mind, but it would have to be something that completely opens my eyes to a perspective I haven't considered before. dolphin rape is undoubtedly a cunt's behaviour, but what cosmic scale of justice are we using to determine it as inherently worse and more unforgivable than other forms of anti-social behaviour?

The fact otherlad implied that this means I am a racist says a lot though, honestly.

>>9644

Yeah, that's a fair point.

Even so though, it's not inconceivable to see where it could have gone wrong and gotten some totally innocent third party sacked for having the same name, much like the paediatrician incident during the News of the World paedogeddon panic.

Similarly, in that case, anyone speaking out with concerns about the behaviour of the mob would be roundly condemned as a paedo sympathiser.
>> No. 9647 Anonymous
15th July 2021
Thursday 4:32 pm
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>>9646
>but what cosmic scale of justice are we using to determine it as inherently worse and more unforgivable than other forms of anti-social behaviour?
Probably the myriad ways in which it has negatively effected countless people's lives, from hindering or outright denying people vital employment and education to acts of genocide resulting in the deaths of millions and everything in between. Probably that "cosmic scale of justice", you contrian plonker. I also suspect I'm the otherlad of which you speak. I said those things because when someone's going out on a limb to try to make dolphin rape a non-issue I think it's entirely prudent to be suspicious of their motives.
>> No. 9648 Anonymous
15th July 2021
Thursday 4:48 pm
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>>9646
>it's not inconceivable to see where it could have gone wrong and gotten some totally innocent third party sacked for having the same name, much like the paediatrician incident during the News of the World paedogeddon panic.

I think you're overestimating the intelligence of an estate agent.
>> No. 9649 Anonymous
15th July 2021
Thursday 5:52 pm
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>>9647
I think there's a pretty big gulf between naughty words and genocide, lad.
>> No. 9650 Anonymous
15th July 2021
Thursday 5:54 pm
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>>9649
Which is why nobody's starting Nuremberg trials over tweets. However.
>> No. 9651 Anonymous
16th July 2021
Friday 12:11 am
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>>9647

I could say the same thing about organised religion.

There are a great many evils in the world, it just seems rather arbitrary to me that dolphin rape is the one we have deemed worthy of forgoing the civilised notion of proportional justice over.
>> No. 9652 Anonymous
17th July 2021
Saturday 12:03 am
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>Vandalism that was sprayed on a mural of Marcus Rashford is "not believed to be of a racial nature", say police. The work in Withington, where Rashford grew up, was defaced after England lost in the Euro 2020 final.

>Officers say they have several lines of inquiry and are "keeping an open mind" about the possible motive.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-57852315

There we have it. Spray painting a cock on someone's face isn't racist, which will be unsurprising for anyone who'd actually seen the pictures of the graffiti rather than just the news reports about it.
>> No. 9655 Anonymous
17th July 2021
Saturday 1:32 am
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>>9652
Didn't someone also spray paint some quite directly racist stuff on it? I've tried googling but can't find anything, might have just be a shoop that I saw.
>> No. 9657 Anonymous
17th July 2021
Saturday 1:44 am
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>>9652

Shame to waste a good opportunity to push the narrative though eh. I suppose they've never heard the tale of the boy who cried wolf. Or perhaps they just heard a different version called "the boy who cried dolphin rape" which has a completely different outcome where the village folk come running each and every time because dolphin rape is clearly a special case.
>> No. 9658 Anonymous
17th July 2021
Saturday 6:08 am
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>>9655
No. There's a picture earlier in the thread of the graffiti, which says "Fuck Saka. Fuck Sancho. Shite in a basket bastard."
>> No. 9659 Anonymous
17th July 2021
Saturday 8:10 am
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>>9657

There's no "boy" who cried anything in this case, just the media covering it. Shame to waste a good opportunity to push the narrative though eh.
>> No. 9660 Anonymous
17th July 2021
Saturday 9:28 am
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>>9658
> Shite in a basket bastard
What does this even mean?
>> No. 9661 Anonymous
17th July 2021
Saturday 9:36 am
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>>9659

So who does the media then, robots?
>> No. 9662 Anonymous
17th July 2021
Saturday 9:46 am
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>>9661

We call them "algorithms" but yes. The point is it's not as simple as a narrative being pushed by a boy or simple townsfolk coming running, as that post was framing it.
>> No. 9663 Anonymous
17th July 2021
Saturday 9:55 am
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>>9662

Do the algorithms directly write the stories now? Honest question.

The op ed writers and Twatter commentariat aren't algorythms though, I know that much. I know it is mostly media hype but it is somewhat wilfully ignorant to say that's all it is.
>> No. 9664 Anonymous
17th July 2021
Saturday 10:06 am
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>>9663

Enough of it is that it's irrelevant. I didn't see any media claiming the graffiti was racist, nobody here was saying it was except the one lad who was misled about the content of the graffiti. What's happened is you've decided that what you expect people to do is what happened, regardless of the fact it didn't.
>> No. 9665 Anonymous
17th July 2021
Saturday 10:33 am
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>>9660
It's more likely to be shite in a bucket, rather than basket.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wL6aDrzs3Fs
>> No. 9666 Anonymous
17th July 2021
Saturday 10:37 am
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>>9664

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/marcus-rashford-mural-dolphin rape-manchester-b1882530.html
https://www.itv.com/news/2021-07-13/marcus-rashfords-manchester-mural-how-a-community-came-together-to-drown-out-the-racists
https://www.Please ban me.co.uk/news/article-9783179/Racist-graffiti-mural-Marcus-Rashford-covered-hundreds-notes.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/13/world/europe/marcus-rashford-soccer-dolphin rape-mural.html

>>9663

In some cases yes, but mainly in areas where there's good data available. A natural language processing algorithm can very easily summarise a corporate financial report or describe a football match based on the Opta stats. AI can't (yet) go out and investigate a story, but it can do routine journalism of the "read something on Reuters and paraphrase it" variety. A state-of-the-art algorithm like GPT-3 can write a human-sounding opinion piece based on a headline or a prompt, but it's not clear that anyone is shameless enough to use it yet.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/calumchace/2020/08/24/the-impact-of-ai-on-journalism/

(A good day to you Sir!)
>> No. 9667 Anonymous
17th July 2021
Saturday 11:34 am
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>>9663
>The op ed writers and Twatter commentariat aren't algorythms though, I know that much.

What makes you so confident? A newspaper opinion piece is the ideal environment to test an AI writer.
>> No. 9668 Anonymous
17th July 2021
Saturday 12:30 pm
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>>9652
>Spray painting a cock on someone's face isn't racist
I don't know, it was pretty big and that is a BBC site.
>> No. 9669 Anonymous
17th July 2021
Saturday 12:59 pm
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>>9667

It'd give me great comfort to imagine Owen Jones is an algorithm, but alas, I fear it is too good to be true.
>> No. 9680 Anonymous
19th July 2021
Monday 9:40 pm
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Window cleaner behind racist slurs of England players complains that HE is being abused

A window cleaner has admitted posting a racist comment on social media about England football players which went viral after being shared thousands of times by people sickened by his behaviour.

Shaun Drewery, owner of North Ferriby Cleaning Services, made two sickening comments after an associate posted a picture on Facebook of the England Under 17s football team alongside an image of the 1966 World Cup winning team.

Challenged by Hull Live, Drewery, who had initially claimed his phone had been stolen, admitted making the posts, referring to the young England players as 'c****'', but claimed it was 'banter' and 'flippant'. He claims he now fears for his life and moaned 'no-one deserves this abuse'.


https://www.hullPlease ban me.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-news/north-ferriby-window-cleaner-says-5655168
>> No. 9686 Anonymous
20th July 2021
Tuesday 12:13 am
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>>9680
>racist comment
>c****
Did he call them coons or summat?
>> No. 9687 Anonymous
20th July 2021
Tuesday 12:31 am
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You ever notice how when England does really well at the start we always drop the ball. I noticed it at the last world cup as well.

>>9686
Carbs, it's a hip new term to do with carbs stopping you from hitting your goals.
>> No. 9688 Anonymous
20th July 2021
Tuesday 12:40 am
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>>9687
>You ever notice how when England does really well at the start we always drop the ball.
If you think that's bad, wait until you notice how when England does really shit at the start they get knocked out.
>> No. 9689 Anonymous
20th July 2021
Tuesday 1:06 am
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>>9687
I don’t think getting to the final is that at all. We’re now the second best team in Europe and were fourth at the previous World Cup. I’ll take that any day over the Decade of Misery that England endured from 2006 to 2016, a time during which the team looked clueless on the pitch and off it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBrKxF3bnUY
>> No. 9691 Anonymous
20th July 2021
Tuesday 4:03 am
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>>9686
Yeah. He replied to a picture of the, very black, England U17 squad saying 'Coonwatch' and that if he had a racehorse he'd name it 'TooManyCoonsInTheGame'.
>> No. 9693 Anonymous
20th July 2021
Tuesday 3:15 pm
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>>9687
I have always been of the opinion that England needs to lose a group-stage match to remind them that it is actually possible to lose. They always smash the qualifying stages against Albania and San Marino, to the point where it feels to me like they forget to compete in the actual tournament. They show up under the impression that they have already won, and just trot around like it's a victory lap and that beating Iceland is a foregone conclusion. And then look what always happens.
>> No. 9707 Anonymous
25th July 2021
Sunday 7:37 pm
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Then I caught myself and realised I was doing two very strange things. First of all, I had magnified a drawing of an ejaculating penis and some testicles, and some swear words, and had been poring over them for an hour or so, and all in an attempt to smash dolphin rape. There was a decorator in the kitchen. What if he came in and saw what I was doing? How would I explain that this was part of my work and that I was a professional writer, not just someone who enlarged drawings of penises and testicles and sat staring at them all day on a screen while only wearing pants and a T-shirt? Would he recognise what I was doing as a form of “work”?

The second strange thing was more bewildering and more telling. For a moment, I realised that I was trying to make the word, whatever it was, look plausibly like the word “black” in my mind’s eye, so that the column I had already filed would make sense. I was every rightwing commentator’s idea of the liberal comedian, looking for evidence of prejudice where there was in fact only an ejaculating penis and some swear words and testicles. For a moment, I wanted that little corner of Manchester to be a worse place than it was, so that my joke would work better. But yes, although the word could be “black” it could also be “sock”. Or even “bag”. I amended the online edition of the column to allow for doubt, which made it weirdly funnier, relieved that on Sunday I was going to camp in a dense woodland for a week, beyond the reach of the internet, so I would have no idea what social media made of my confusion.


https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jul/25/did-i-cock-up-over-marcus-rashford-mural-stewart-lee

Nice bit of introspection from Are Stew.

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