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>> No. 6287 Anonymous
16th May 2016
Monday 11:12 pm
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That thread about the Scottish guy who trained his girlfriend's dog to be a Nazi got me thinking. He was working in a call centre, a minimum wage (or close to minimum wage) job, but he seemed like he was living an independent lifestyle.

As a fairly sheltered Londoner this makes me wonder: are there actually places in this country where one can live independently and reasonably well on the minimum wage, or a smidgeon above it?
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>> No. 6288 Anonymous
16th May 2016
Monday 11:26 pm
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Rents are drastically lower up here in the provinces. Around my way, you can rent a two bedroom terraced house in a slightly scruffy part of town for £400 a month. Down in That London, you'd be lucky to rent the top bunk in an airing cupboard in Zone 27 for that.

The current minimum wage works out to just over £1050 a month after tax. It's not the lap of luxury, but it's absolutely livable if you're not paying London rents and you're reasonably sensible with money.
>> No. 6289 Anonymous
17th May 2016
Tuesday 12:39 am
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>>6288

It might seem like bargain to the Londoners, but the fact you can pay 40% of your income just for the privilege of "living" in a shite two up two down terrace in Beeston or somewhere equally dire fucks me right off.

Chances are that your landlord will be a tight fisted Asian cunt and the place will be in an awful state, your neighbours will be noisy anti-social wankers, and you'll be terminally depressed already because you work for Direct Line.
>> No. 6290 Anonymous
17th May 2016
Tuesday 12:46 am
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>>6289
What on Earth do you expect on minimum wage lad - a swanky Kensington townhouse?
>> No. 6291 Anonymous
17th May 2016
Tuesday 12:54 am
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>>6290

It's more the fact that that's the very bottom end of the market- You can get a reasonably nice, if pretty cramped, flat for the same price, but you can't really get below that £400 line no matter where you are.

It's a big chunk of money just to keep the roof over your head; I'm not old enough to know better but something tells me it hasn't always been so disproportional compared to overall income, even for minimum wage earners. You earn fifteen grand in a year and give about 6 of it straight to some tosser for no reason other than he owns a spare house.
>> No. 6292 Anonymous
17th May 2016
Tuesday 1:04 am
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>>6289
>Chances are that your landlord will be a tight fisted Asian cunt and the place will be in an awful state, your neighbours will be noisy anti-social wankers, and you'll be terminally depressed already because you work for Direct Line.
So in other words, just like London but much fucking cheaper?
>> No. 6293 Anonymous
17th May 2016
Tuesday 1:37 am
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>>6291
Why is it surprising that earning at the bottom end of the market affords you property at the bottom end of the market?

People have always had to make sacrifices to put a roof over their head. My parents went without holidays, trips to the pub and other such luxuries so that they could afford to put a deposit down on a house 30 or so years ago. When they moved in they couldn't afford furniture so they had deck-chairs set up in the front room. Contrast that to today, you can't imagine most people dreaming of giving up their two weeks in Ibiza, their four pints of shit cider in the pub every night, or their 50" plasma tv to get on the housing ladder. They just sit there and complain because nobody makes it easy for them.
>> No. 6294 Anonymous
17th May 2016
Tuesday 4:37 am
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>>6293

When I was a baby my parents didn't have any proper furniture, just a load of old shit that had been dragged out of sheds and skips. All their photos from that time look like they were taken in a squat or a particularly grim student house. Four mismatched chairs around a wobbly table, a sofa with bits of foam sticking out, an upturned tea chest acting as a coffee table. They were both teachers, so it's not like they were desperately poor.

The housing market today is manifestly unfair, particularly in the south east, but I think we've forgotten how much our standards have changed. My mum grew up in a house with an outside toilet and no central heating. She ate big piles of bread and butter with every meal, because it was cheap. She darned socks and wore shoes with holes in the soles. In the winter she slept under a pile of army surplus blankets and greatcoats.

Landlords are cunts, but they've always been cunts and probably always will be. What has changed is that we expect to have all new furniture, all new clothes, a new car, a foreign holiday every year. We've forgotten how to live within our means. We're captivated by consumerism. We don't know the meaning of "enough".
>> No. 6295 Anonymous
17th May 2016
Tuesday 10:00 am
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>>6294
But you try and tell the young people today that ...
>> No. 6296 Anonymous
17th May 2016
Tuesday 11:52 am
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>>6294
>We've forgotten how to live within our means.

Uh, not all of us mate. Just because I don't harpoon rats and sleep under a blanket of mold doesn't make me entitled or privileged.
Times were different back then and general misery and apathy are relative. We do have a sense of "what is enough?", but I think thats partly due to the consumer culture, but with it, an acceptance of basic human rights. E.g.: sleeping under a roof, having a bit of furniture, having clothes, food, etc...
>> No. 6297 Anonymous
17th May 2016
Tuesday 11:56 am
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>>6294
>We've forgotten how to live within our means
How absurd to expect that living standards should continue to rise!
>> No. 6298 Anonymous
17th May 2016
Tuesday 2:54 pm
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>>6297
There's no contradiction between having rising living standards and not living within your means.
>> No. 6299 Anonymous
17th May 2016
Tuesday 3:34 pm
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>>6298
He's saying that people expect to be able to afford a house and have a holiday, and acting as if changing standards is somehow a bad thing. Our standards have certainly changed: his parents' standards were higher than those of his grandparents. That is a perfectly valid expectation if you believe that living standards should continue to rise.

Also, we fundamentally can't all "live within our means". The economy is fuelled mostly by private debt. Paying that all off would result in a huge contraction of the money supply which would almost certainly cause economic catastrophe.
>> No. 6302 Anonymous
17th May 2016
Tuesday 9:25 pm
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>>6299
>That is a perfectly valid expectation if you believe that living standards should continue to rise.

You can't seriously expect the same increase in living standards in the UK in the immediate aftermath of two world wars to increase indefinitely?
>> No. 6303 Anonymous
17th May 2016
Tuesday 9:32 pm
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I work in a call centre setting, but I work from home.

I used to work in the main office, but they put me on an overnight shift. Had the option to go sit in the office on my own at night or work from home. No brainer. Don't have to pay for transport to work, saves a lot of money each month.

Off to live in Malta next month. Get about £18000 a year, and a fully furnished apartment with internet in a nice part of the island will cost me about £350 a month. Opposed to the £600 for a box room in a house share full of wankers here.

Not too shabby.
>> No. 6304 Anonymous
17th May 2016
Tuesday 9:41 pm
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>>6302
No, that's why I didn't say that.
>> No. 6305 Anonymous
17th May 2016
Tuesday 9:45 pm
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>>6304
Well what are you saying then? Living standards in the UK have increased since the 70s, that doesn't mean that you magically have a right to a holiday abroad or whatever you arbitrarily decide you should be entitled to because *wave hands frantically* it's the modern age guys.
>> No. 6306 Anonymous
17th May 2016
Tuesday 9:49 pm
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>>6293

It's not surprising at all that you get bottom end quality for bottom end prices. What I'm complaining about is that "bottom end" still means "close to half a person's full time income".

This is a first world country, it's not unreasonable to expect things to be more affordable, if not of a better quality. I don't mind living in a shithole, it just irritates me that the money I spend for my shithole alone would probably feed and house somebody for several years in a poorer country.

We're not paying a lot for our shoebox flats or crap mouldy terraced houses because that's what they're worth, but simply because there's an artificial scarcity of supply. The free market working perfectly, as usual.

I don't want to get into that tiresome argument about poor people insisting on BIG PLASMA TELLIES and their 20 FAGS A DAY, but it's clear you've never personally had to support yourself on minimum wage for any extended period of time. Maybe poor people would be able to afford a home if they did nothing but go to work and come home to sit in an empty, candlelit room to eat bread and water, but a)it's 2016, not 1716, and b) the economy would literally collapse if they stopped "wasting their money" on those things.
>> No. 6307 Anonymous
17th May 2016
Tuesday 9:59 pm
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>>6305
I'm saying that it's stupid to say that people should accept growth in living standards being eroded by an alarming growth in income inequality and an absurd explosion in house prices because *wave hands frantically* you've got to live within your means guys.
>> No. 6308 Anonymous
17th May 2016
Tuesday 10:17 pm
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>>6306
>What I'm complaining about is that "bottom end" still means "close to half a person's full time income".

The median UK household income was £23,556 in the 2013/14 tax year - which works out to nearly £2k per month. £500 per month rent is more like a quarter of this.

>I don't mind living in a shithole, it just irritates me that the money I spend for my shithole alone would probably feed and house somebody for several years in a poorer country.

Currencies in different countries have different values shocker. Hint: try comparing the median annual pay in these poorer countries to the UK.

>but it's clear you've never personally had to support yourself on minimum wage for any extended period of time.

I was a student for a few years, I think you'll find that £3k per year student finance is considerably below minimum wage. Also, PhD students manage to support themselves perfectly well on £13-14k per year stipends. £15k per year does not make you poor.
>> No. 6309 Anonymous
17th May 2016
Tuesday 10:44 pm
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>>6308
>The median UK household income was £23,556 in the 2013/14 tax year - which works out to nearly £2k per month. £500 per month rent is more like a quarter of this
"A person's full time income" is not a household income. Is that before or after tax anyway?
>> No. 6310 Anonymous
17th May 2016
Tuesday 10:58 pm
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>>6309
>"A person's full time income" is not a household income.
It is if they're single.
>> No. 6311 Anonymous
17th May 2016
Tuesday 11:01 pm
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>>6308
How is £15k not poor?
>> No. 6313 Anonymous
17th May 2016
Tuesday 11:15 pm
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>>6309
After tax. No, but a household's median income is the more representative figure when talking about rent which is often shared between multiple people.

I think a significant part of the problem is that we are seeing more people living alone than ever before in the UK. It seems somewhat paradoxical, particularly in cities like London, that people are simultaneously living in closer proximity and are better connected by technology yet are on average more alone than ever before. Living alone has the confounding problems of putting extra strain on your wallet each month as well as reduced social interactions causing poorer mental health and increased risk of depression. The causes are complex and multi-faceted, it's not a trivial problem but one I believe will make a large difference in people's lives, moreso than simply making it more affordable for people to live alone.
>> No. 6314 Anonymous
17th May 2016
Tuesday 11:18 pm
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>>6311
It's enough money for a roof over your head, food, and transport. It's not luxury, but it's not poverty in the sense that one would apply to third-world less economically developed countries.
>> No. 6315 Anonymous
17th May 2016
Tuesday 11:24 pm
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>>6314
Ah. I see. I suppose nobody in Britain is poor since we are richer than 99% of Malawians. We should thank the good Lord for providing us with enough for rent, food, heat, lights, transport, and such.
>> No. 6316 Anonymous
17th May 2016
Tuesday 11:24 pm
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>>6314
Yes, lad, believe it or not you aren't the first person to make a distinction between absolute and relative poverty.
>> No. 6317 Anonymous
17th May 2016
Tuesday 11:53 pm
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>>6308
> The median UK household income was £23,556 in the 2013/14 tax year - which works out to nearly £2k per month. £500 per month rent is more like a quarter of this.

After tax, that is £1,598.77 per month (according to http://www.thesalarycalculator.co.uk/salary.php). Not counting pension contributions or student loan repayments. Not nearly 2k per month.
>> No. 6318 Anonymous
17th May 2016
Tuesday 11:54 pm
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>>6316
Well why is relative poverty an important thing to talk about in this context? If we were to raise the minimum wage to £20k per year say, that would just become the new relative poverty. Housing would not magically become any more affordable either because of the market reaction. This is pretty basic stuff.
>> No. 6319 Anonymous
17th May 2016
Tuesday 11:55 pm
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>>6317
That figure is already with tax deducted.
>> No. 6321 Anonymous
18th May 2016
Wednesday 1:10 am
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I certainly don't struggle on 13k a year.
>> No. 6323 Anonymous
18th May 2016
Wednesday 3:17 am
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>>6321

Do you mind going into your monthly expenses? Because I always feel like I'm fighting to live within my means and I'm on more than that.
>> No. 6324 Anonymous
18th May 2016
Wednesday 8:06 am
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>>6308

We're not talking about median income you thick bastard.

Nice way to willfully miss my point.

I knew you'd say that. No, being a student tosser for a few years doesn't count. I bet you managed to find plenty of spare money for booze out of your paltry income then, but it's a different matter when real poor people do it.
>> No. 6325 Anonymous
18th May 2016
Wednesday 11:11 am
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>>6323
Of course. Rent is 350, council tax is a bit of a killer, I don't spend a lot on eating, don't really drink or smoke, I buy food from local markets and cook a lot and do so efficiently, ie planning meals etc. I have no car or anything, I cycle to work, rarely have need for public transport. Phone is payg and I don't use it much,, just texts and ringing my mum. Winter is cold but I'm a heating nazi anyway so I don't really mind, my laptop and cooking are the big sources of heat. I live with others who don't earn a lot, they're good lads. I very rarely make any big purchases and that's partly out of necessity and partly simply because I'm not really interested in fancy hardware. I got a new (expensive) phone recently and I bought that outright, none of this crappy short term loan nonsense. I know my parents would bail me out if I needed cash for something but I've not needed to yet.

Really it's just living like a student permanently but with less excess. Students don't live dissimilarly, what's the loan now 5.5k for living away from home for 6-9 months plus say 3-5k a year from other sources, so roughly 12k a year apiece. I had a Romanian friend who lived off £200 a month after rent while at uni.

It's a tight life but I don't have an issue with it. I had a job interview this morning which'd almost double my salary so hopefully that goes well.

Oh and I don't have a girlfriend. If I did I think I'd need 3x as much.
>> No. 6326 Anonymous
18th May 2016
Wednesday 11:58 am
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>>6324
Right, so the 'person' who's income is half taken-up by rent is not meant to be someone statistically representative of modern Britain, but rather a projection of your own specific position on the income distribution. Nice to have that cleared up.

Also, given your apparent 'dem bloody stoodents m8' attitude suggests you were never a student yourself, I would suggest you pick your fights slightly better than to accuse a graduate of being a 'thick bastard'.

So you've arbitrarily decided that living on below minimum wage for four years isn't relevant to knowing what it's like to live on minimum wage because...? I don't know many students who have the time or money to regularly sit around in the pub paying £3-4 a pint, like many people I know on minimum wage do - there's a reason undergrads learn to love the cheap booze from Aldi.

Besides, if you're also not counting PhD students as a good parallel to people earning minimum wage because it has the word 'student' in you should probably reconsider. At least in science, a PhD is functionally more or less identical to a job (only with more emphasis on personal responsibility/accountability). If PhD students can live for 3-4 years on £13-14k without needing to visit food-banks, then so can people earning £15k or above.
>> No. 6327 Anonymous
18th May 2016
Wednesday 12:45 pm
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>>6325
You sound like a barrel of laughs m8.
>> No. 6328 Anonymous
18th May 2016
Wednesday 1:09 pm
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>>6327
Oh teenlad. It's called being an adult, you should try it sometime.
>> No. 6329 Anonymous
18th May 2016
Wednesday 1:14 pm
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>>6327
YEAH M8 FINK HOW MANY J-BOMBS U CAN GET ON FIRTEEN KAY.
>> No. 6330 Anonymous
18th May 2016
Wednesday 1:22 pm
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>>6328
No, lad. Freezing your bollocks off in the winter while you plan your week's eating, drinking and sleeping down to the last detail is not called "being an adult".
>> No. 6331 Anonymous
18th May 2016
Wednesday 1:46 pm
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>>6330
That's hyperbole and you know it. Believe it or not, having a vague plan of what you are going to eat in a week and how much it will cost you is something that most adults are capable of.
>> No. 6332 Anonymous
18th May 2016
Wednesday 1:46 pm
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>>6330
Agreed. That's no way to live. There is an air of I FOR ONE DO NOT OWN A TELEVISION in >>6325
>> No. 6333 Anonymous
18th May 2016
Wednesday 2:16 pm
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>>6325
Sounds like a fucking struggle, honestly.
>> No. 6334 Anonymous
18th May 2016
Wednesday 2:36 pm
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>>6333
I wouldn't turn the heating on all day or eat fucking takeaways all the time even if I could afford it, it's just how I am, nothing to do with my income.

I don't have to plan all my meals, I eat what I want, I just cook for four and freeze a lot. I don't eat beans all day, I made steak and ale pie yesterday. Obviously I have little disposable income but Christ I don't have any issue.
>> No. 6335 Anonymous
18th May 2016
Wednesday 2:42 pm
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Also I have no idea what you lot consider 'planning to the last detail'. I buy food, I cook food. If I want to go to the pub I consider if I have the money to go to the pub, what the fuck is the difference to any normal person? I don't live some regimented lifestyle, what the hell do you think I do??
>> No. 6336 Anonymous
18th May 2016
Wednesday 2:47 pm
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>>6334
Being permanently single, only communicating with your mother, not having a car, never buying any large purchases etc. is all pretty grim to people who are not like you, which is most people.
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18th May 2016
Wednesday 2:50 pm
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>>6336
I can't help it if you willingly misinterpret everything I say, can I?
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18th May 2016
Wednesday 2:56 pm
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>>6337
What am I misinterpreting? You said you wouldn't be able to have a girlfriend on your income, don't have a car, only use your phone for texting and calling your mum, and "very rarely make any big purchases". For most people that is a shit life.
>> No. 6339 Anonymous
18th May 2016
Wednesday 3:00 pm
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>>6338
I don't call anyone anyway, just text or facebook message. I'm not gonna ring my best mate to natter about my day, plenty of people have girlfriends with zero income, I was just being facetious about women being expensive.

How shit I don't buy a new telly every year and an audi on finance l, I really suffer. I don't have a car because I don't need one, not because I can't afford one. My mum earns 50k a year and doesn't even have an HD television, some people aren't as interested in consumer crap as you are.

Fucking hell.
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18th May 2016
Wednesday 3:20 pm
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>>6339
>an audi on finance
You should be getting that thing on a lease, especially if you can do it via salary sacrifice, saving yourself a load of tax in the process. You may not own the asset, but given it'll depreciate like a stone that's not necessarily a bad thing.
>> No. 6341 Anonymous
18th May 2016
Wednesday 3:25 pm
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>>6340
I know someone on minimum wage who drives a new Merc on one of those longish term leases. Just depends what your priorities are, cars aren't really necessary in cities but are if you live out in the sticks.
>> No. 6342 Anonymous
18th May 2016
Wednesday 4:12 pm
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>>6339
>some people aren't as interested in consumer crap as you are
Hm yes, people who would struggle to lead an enjoyable life on 13k are clearly just whores to consumerism. You got it m8.
>> No. 6343 Anonymous
18th May 2016
Wednesday 4:21 pm
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>>6342
You've just told me I'm struggling because I'm not making big purchases. I don't struggle because I can meet all my financial committments and live my life as I see fit.
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18th May 2016
Wednesday 4:22 pm
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>>6343
>Committments

Not all my spelling commitments though.
>> No. 6345 Anonymous
18th May 2016
Wednesday 6:13 pm
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>>6343
I said your life sounds like a struggle because you can't run a car, can't have a partner, and can't make "big purchases" (which means more than consumer goods, mate).

If you're comfortable your situation, fine. Good for you. It means fuck all to normal people though, who would not be comfortable, and not on account of them being, like, such blind materialists, maaan.
>> No. 6346 Anonymous
18th May 2016
Wednesday 6:38 pm
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>>6345
I didn't say I can't, I said I don't.
>> No. 6347 Anonymous
18th May 2016
Wednesday 7:17 pm
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>>6346
You've said it was "a tight life". If money's already tight, you can't afford expensive things on top of what you're already spending, genius.
>> No. 6348 Anonymous
18th May 2016
Wednesday 8:34 pm
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>>6325
Good God. How is this life? This sounds really shitty. I would have probably killed myself if I were in that situation. Or move to Nepal.

Not only is it a really shitty way to live, but you seem proud of it and want other people to live like you. Wow.
>> No. 6349 Anonymous
18th May 2016
Wednesday 8:44 pm
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>>6343
Do you plan on not having any relationships, a family, friends, material possessions, ever? Or...? How do you see your future? Or are you just happy with 13k a year indefinitely?

I have to say, it sounds really grim. You can't drink, keep warm, socialise, buy stuff for yourself. How do you put a positive spin on it? I would have probably become a criminal if I ended up planning my meals weeks ahead.

I hope it gets better for you, mate. It isn't nice living like that in one of the richest nations in the world.
>> No. 6350 Anonymous
18th May 2016
Wednesday 11:18 pm
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>>6348

I live a similar lifestyle, through choice rather than necessity. Superficial hardship doesn't faze me, because I've been absolutely broke for much of my life. I was homeless for a bit, I was a professional musician, I was a grad student. I scraped by on nothing well into my thirties, so I'm just not in the habit of spending money.

My definition of "a good life" is quite humble. As long as I've got food in the cupboards, a half-decent guitar, a serviceable laptop and a library card then I'm happy. I pay £400/mo for my room (bills included), plus £250ish a month on food, clothes and household items. I rarely spend more than £15 on a night out.

If I moved to London and worked back-to-back contracts for finance companies then I could easily earn >£60k, but that's not the life I want. I'd rather do just enough work to get by and have more time to myself.
>> No. 6351 Anonymous
18th May 2016
Wednesday 11:25 pm
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>>6349
I have a housemate who has a life like that. He seems to enjoy it. On one hand his situation may be a little precarious (I have no idea what his savings situation is like) but he gets a lift from a colleague to work, spends his leisure hours camping and wandering around the lake district and shit. Doesn't have any money-intensive hobbies as far as I can tell.

He's in wilderness management on a course so maybe he'll get a big thumping pay rise once he certifies.
>> No. 6352 Anonymous
19th May 2016
Thursday 1:05 am
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>>6348
> How is this life? This sounds really shitty. I would have probably killed myself if I were in that situation. Or move to Nepal.

I'd ask you what the hell is wrong with you.

>Not only is it a really shitty way to live,
It isn't.

>but you seem proud of it
I'm proud of being able to handle my fucking adult life unlike all you kiddies seem to be able to? I'm not proud of working a dead end job, I'm certainly proud of being able to live the life I want to lead on a budget that you cunts think is impossible, I ask you what the fuck you're doing with your money if you're struggling so much on more than I am.

>>6349
>Do you plan on not having any relationships, a family, friends, material possessions, ever?
Of course not.

>Or...? How do you see your future? Or are you just happy with 13k a year indefinitely
Of course I'm not planning on earning 13k a year.

This thread has been absolute bollocks, you all stink of teenlad Corbynites, you see me saying I earn 13k a year and don't have many issues with it and you interpret it as being some crushed working class lad oppressed by the higher classes into accepting it and wanting to impose it on others, albeit with no prospects or ambitions. I certainly have ambitions, it's really fucking me off how you see 'I earn x money' and then following on from that 'you are shit and want nothing'.

Bunch of cunts. All I fuckign said was that I manage my money effectively, apparently in the eyes of most of you that's an absurd thing to suggest. Someday you'll grow up.

>>6350
You say similar, I don't see the similarity. I don't have hardship, I'm not absolutely broke, Ive never been homeless. I live a life I want to lead, the difference between me and most in this thread is that I handle it and they can't/don't think they can.

The guy above who said he was on more and has issues I can respect, he's not saying bollocks, he's looking for a bit of a hand and an explanation as to how someone else can do better. That's respectable and I want to help where I can. What I don't respect is cunts basically being demeaning shites boasting about how they can throw their cash away as they see fit. I manage my money well - they don't, and apparently I don't fit their model of a low paid worker.

>>6351
The lifestyle suggested by '49 is nothing to do with me. I have no savings, it's not really possible on my income, that has nothing to do with how I live my life though and is a product of my income.

Am I being retarded or is this imageboard just full of teenlads? Someone tell me that how I live my life is shit please, with justification, I'm already sick of being told it's shit without justification despite the fact I'm happy with it and want for little.

But how can you want for little without your new 4k TV...
>> No. 6353 Anonymous
19th May 2016
Thursday 2:03 am
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>>6352
>I'm proud of being able to handle my fucking adult life
But what you've described isn't adult life. It's student life. So congratulations, lad. You can handle fucking student life. Your mum must be so proud. Maybe you could text her in the morning to find out.
>> No. 6354 Anonymous
19th May 2016
Thursday 2:19 am
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>>6353
Since when could students handle their finances? You say 'student life' in regard to consumption, not life management. I'm ot in my overdraft, I don't avoid my electricity bill.

I'm yet to hear a valid criticism of my life other than conjectural bullshit. There's plenty of criticism to be had, all you have to do is identify it properly.
>> No. 6355 Anonymous
19th May 2016
Thursday 2:46 am
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>>6354
>You say 'student life' in regard to consumption, not life management. I'm ot in my overdraft, I don't avoid my electricity bill.
Doesn't matter. That just makes you a slightly better class of student.

>I'm yet to hear a valid criticism of my life
That you don't think it valid doesn't make it not so.
>> No. 6356 Anonymous
19th May 2016
Thursday 3:26 am
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>>6355
>That you don't think it valid doesn't make it not so.
You're right. However, that doesn't mean there's any criticism in this thread for me.

I'm waiting for that criticism.

Is the criticism 'you don't earn enough'? If it is, that's extremely arrogant and patronising.

Is it 'you should spend more'? If it is I think that's highly irresponsible and a short route to bankruptcy.

Is it ''you are struggling and dont want to admit it'? I think is the most likely answer, but given that 'struggling' is based on my interpretation and not yours, then the answer is no. As I said, I have no financial commitments I cannot maintain. Again, I'm sorry for not buying that new graphics card, I don't play games.
>> No. 6357 Anonymous
19th May 2016
Thursday 3:40 am
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>>6356
>Is the criticism 'you don't earn enough'? If it is, that's extremely arrogant and patronising.
Says the lad who's boasting about how he spends his time planning the efficiency of his food shopping and phoning his mum, and pointing out how useless everyone else must be if they can't live like him.

>Is it 'you should spend more'? If it is I think that's highly irresponsible and a short route to bankruptcy.
That sort of financial illiteracy is probably why the poster of that other thread thinks that better financial education is in order.

>Is it ''you are struggling and dont want to admit it'?
There is probably an element of this.
>but given that 'struggling' is based on my interpretation and not yours
Nope. You don't get to set the terms of other people's arguments. Especially when their argument is along the lines of "you're in denial".

I think the bigger criticism, which is entirely valid, is entirely justified, and appears to have been entirely borne out, is that, as described, your life appears to be utterly devoid of ... well, anything that passes for "life".
>> No. 6358 Anonymous
19th May 2016
Thursday 6:40 am
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>>6357

No, there's nothing wrong with his life. That is how most people live. You're a complete bell-end who looks down on the working class. We can't all be managers, some of us have to do the shelf-stacking.
>> No. 6359 Anonymous
19th May 2016
Thursday 9:45 am
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>>6358
Nobody is criticising his life. Nobody gives a fuck about his life. It's his implication that anyone who would find a life without a car, partner, savings etc. somewhat grim is somehow obsessed with consumerism that makes him look a cunt.

If he's happy with 13k, fine, good for him, but that isn't relevant to normal people.
>> No. 6361 Anonymous
19th May 2016
Thursday 2:06 pm
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>>6358
I think it's pretty clear that >>6348, >>6349, >>6353, >>6355, >>6357 and >>6359 are all some samechap weakly attemping to troll by willingly misinterpreting >>6352lad at every point. Clearly, how much you earn shouldn't affect the number or quality of your relationships with people who aren't cunts. In the modern age, there are uncountably many free ways to communicate with even the cheapest mobile phone or computer device so being on low income doesn't limit to just talking to your Mum as has been somehow implied. As for 'big purchases', I'm sure nobody earning minimum wage on less than 40 hours a week expects to be able to buy a shiny new car, computer, hi-fi and a jacuzzi full of strippers but I'd say buying a mobile phone outright counts as a relatively 'big purchase' to someone on minimum wage, so there you go. Case closed.

I've not seen any credible evidence in this thread so far that minimum doesn't serve it's purpose - as the absolute minimum somebody with no dependents can expect to live off of, reasonably comfortably but with no frills attached. Of course if you have dependents that complicates things, but that's why we have child support benefits and why single mothers are fast-tracked into getting housing support.
>> No. 6362 Anonymous
19th May 2016
Thursday 2:09 pm
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>>6359
>Nobody is criticising his life.
>>6357
>your life appears to be utterly devoid of ... well, anything that passes for "life".

Oh same-chap, just give up already. It's the middle of the day, don't you have anything better to do than shit up the board?
>> No. 6363 Anonymous
19th May 2016
Thursday 2:33 pm
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I just wanted you lads to know I've really enjoyed reading this cunt off. It's passed some good time in work for me.

I love the attitude of the lad upset at the fact other people are poor. He can't seem to wrap his head around things.

'why don't poor people just stop being poor?'
>> No. 6365 Anonymous
19th May 2016
Thursday 4:17 pm
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>>6361

>Of course if you have dependents that complicates things, but that's why we have child support benefits

These are more generous than most people realise. A household with two children and one person earning minimum wage would receive £183.24 a week in child benefit and tax credits. These benefits would increase their net income by 75%, from £1,059.53/mo to £1,853.57/mo. That's just under the median household income. They are also likely to have part of their rent paid by housing benefit, depending on housing costs in their area.

It's absolutely feasible to raise children on minimum wage.
>> No. 6366 Anonymous
19th May 2016
Thursday 4:37 pm
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>>6361
I can assure you that not all of those posts are from the same person.

Maybe that would be clearer if you actually read the fucking thread. Then you'd know that he can't afford a car at all, never mind the running costs. He has no capacity to save, and has to rely on his parents to bail him out should the need arise. Money's tight for him even when single, meaning affording the expenses associated with a relationship would be difficult. I don't know why you've decided to change what he lacks into "a shiny new car, computer, hi-fi and a jacuzzi full of strippers". Are you a subliterate cunt, or a facetious cunt?
>> No. 6367 Anonymous
19th May 2016
Thursday 8:23 pm
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>>6354
You could probably make a lot more. Maybe two to three times more, if you taught English in China or something. You would also get to have relations, call your mum whenever you want instead of texting her once a week, drink all you want, socialise, travel, etc. Don't limit yourself, poorlad. It is sad to see one's youth being wasted in such a manner.
>> No. 6368 Anonymous
19th May 2016
Thursday 8:28 pm
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>>6365
>It's absolutely feasible to raise children on minimum wage.
Sure it is, when other people have to hand over their cash so that you get to stuff your little cunts' mouths with food.
>> No. 6369 Anonymous
19th May 2016
Thursday 8:39 pm
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>>6368
Yeah, those people who have are suffering at the hands of those who have not. I mean, it's utter madness. Next thing you know, they'll be saying we should give votes to women or the unlanded.
>> No. 6370 Anonymous
19th May 2016
Thursday 8:58 pm
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>>6369
Mate, I'm all for a safety net and all, but having kids when you know you can't feed and clothe them is something else. Would you not agree? It isn't something to aim for, and saying that "yeah it's alright, kids can be brought up with bennies," is really silly.
>> No. 6371 Anonymous
19th May 2016
Thursday 9:10 pm
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>>6370
>It isn't something to aim for, and saying that "yeah it's alright, kids can be brought up with bennies," is really silly.

Shame it was one of New Labour's policies, then.
>> No. 6372 Anonymous
19th May 2016
Thursday 9:15 pm
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>>6370
You make it sound like its a conscious choice.
>> No. 6373 Anonymous
19th May 2016
Thursday 9:20 pm
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>>6371
What?
>> No. 6374 Anonymous
19th May 2016
Thursday 9:31 pm
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>>6373
Maybe it's because I've read too many of my other half's trashy women's magazines whilst on the shitter over the years, but they'd regularly have articles from teenage girls who got pregnant on purpose to get a free council house and avoid having to work. At least one of them referred to getting knocked up at sixteen as like winning the lottery. Labour encouraged tee age pregnancies, breeding a whole new generation of voters for them.
>> No. 6375 Anonymous
19th May 2016
Thursday 9:45 pm
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>>6374
That they publish it all the time is evidence of how rare it is.
>> No. 6376 Anonymous
19th May 2016
Thursday 10:00 pm
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>>6374
No. I'm just confused as to what any of this has to do with what was being said. Just seems forced, out of place and weird.
>> No. 6377 Anonymous
19th May 2016
Thursday 10:09 pm
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>>6374

You should read with some skepticism. There is a section of popular media that virtually treats this as an industry. Tabloids set up the archetypes, single mothers, scroungers, drinkers, drug users, whatever. Reality television then ropes in semiprofessionals as contestants on Big Brother or human bait on Jeremy Kyle, sometimes people with very obvious dysfunctions and/or in genuinely vulnerable positions, to play up certain characteristics and become hate figures.

Since this was only written in Smush magazine, though, I'd also like to suggest the possibility that some twat has just made it up.
>> No. 6378 Anonymous
19th May 2016
Thursday 10:47 pm
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>>6374

The teenage pregnancy rate is at an all-time low.
>> No. 6379 Anonymous
20th May 2016
Friday 2:11 am
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>>6378
Well, it might have been back in 2012.

Not saying you're wrong mind, but your data is somewhat out of date.
>> No. 6380 Anonymous
20th May 2016
Friday 2:24 am
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>>6374
You are quite seriously misinformed. Getting knocked up at sixteen is definitely not like winning the lottery and Labour (believe me I hate them too) have never encouraged teenage pregnancies. I suggest you should get off the shitter a bit more.
>> No. 6381 Anonymous
20th May 2016
Friday 12:08 pm
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>>6366
Christ on a bike lad. Yes, just reiterate the same crap points you have willingly misinterpreted multiple times, there's no way that's getting tiresome by now.
>> No. 6382 Anonymous
20th May 2016
Friday 1:10 pm
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>>6366
Why would I get a car when I have no need of a car? It's no wonder you people struggle with money, you seem to buy shit you don't need all the time.

>has to rely on his parents to bail him out should the need arise
I certainly CAN rely on my parents to bail me out should the need arise. Who do you rely on when that time comes? Nobody at all? I think I'm better prepared here.

>>6367
I have relations you fucking tool, I have not implied anywhere that I haven't. I don't care about moving abroad to earn more money, nor do I want to teach English in some shithole on the other side of the planet.

Oh I have a £20/month gym membership too.
>> No. 6383 Anonymous
20th May 2016
Friday 1:18 pm
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>>6379
Well either way it's got nothing to do with Labour is it? Evidently teenage pregnancies peaked in 1997.
>> No. 6384 Anonymous
20th May 2016
Friday 2:21 pm
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>>6382
It's certainly true that there are some jobs people have in remote areas with poor public transport, for which owning a car would conceivably be necessary. I think a lot of the time though, people feel they need to own a car as a status symbol, or because they've been driving since they were 18 and so never had to work out how public transport works/get fit enough to ride several miles on a bike regularly.

Running a car in this day is a significant cost for most people, and it's only going to get worse with increasing petrol prices in the near future. Whilst necessary for some, it's certainly a cost that many people could avoid if they really wanted to.
>> No. 6385 Anonymous
20th May 2016
Friday 2:26 pm
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>>6384
>It's certainly true that there are some jobs people have in remote areas with poor public transport, for which owning a car would conceivably be necessary.
Yes. I'm not one of them.
>> No. 6386 Anonymous
20th May 2016
Friday 2:29 pm
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>>6383
I don't think you can infer that from the data. The variations between 1975 and 2005 are small enough to be essentially noise (note that the y-axis starts at 20 per mille not 0, a well-known trick to emphasise apparent changes). The dip between 2005-2012 is more significant but without knowing the data between 2012-2016 it's entirely plausible that the rate bounced back to around the 4% mark.
>> No. 6387 Anonymous
20th May 2016
Friday 3:25 pm
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>>6386

Given that the argument is whether Labour encouraged teenage pregnancy through the benefits system, post-2012 data isn't really relevant.

I can't be bothered to dig out the latest ONS figures because their website is gash. Data from the UN shows that the rate has continued to fall, reaching 1.5% in 2015.

http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.ADO.TFRT
>> No. 6388 Anonymous
20th May 2016
Friday 4:05 pm
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>>6387
True, you certainly can't say that Labour caused an increase in teen pregnancies from 1997.
>> No. 6389 Anonymous
20th May 2016
Friday 4:15 pm
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>>6382
>Why would I get a car when I have no need of a car? It's no wonder you people struggle with money, you seem to buy shit you don't need all the time.
Who are "you people"? And why is needing a car such an alien idea to you? People do live outside of cities, you understand?

>I certainly CAN rely on my parents to bail me out should the need arise. Who do you rely on when that time comes? Nobody at all? I think I'm better prepared here.
That's what savings are for, genius.
>> No. 6390 Anonymous
20th May 2016
Friday 5:40 pm
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Why can't people grasp that some people are perfectly content living on a meagre salary and although it's not ideal, not overly comfortable or luxurious, some people do manage to still enjoy their life without incessant misery and depression?

People are also misunderstanding I'm sure that just because some people say it's not terrible being poor it doesn't mean they don't wish they earned more.

Jesus Christ, it's easy to tell who has actually been to work in the real world and who is an idealist student who thinks they're just gonna waltz into a 40k job.
>> No. 6391 Anonymous
20th May 2016
Friday 6:10 pm
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>>6390
What classes as a meagre income? I'm only on £28k but that, plus tax credits, is enough for me to pay the mortgage on a decent 4 bedroom house in a non-shithole neighbourhood, bring up 3 kids, support my lazy partner while she takes a couple of years out of work to be with the baby and still usually have about £200pm more coming in than I have going out.
>> No. 6392 Anonymous
20th May 2016
Friday 6:17 pm
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>>6391

Sorry lad, I was talking more about the lad who lives on 13k rather than people who earn anywhere near 28k. Compared to the President of an investment bank that's very meagre, compared to your average Briton, that's pretty alright.
>> No. 6393 Anonymous
20th May 2016
Friday 6:22 pm
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>>6391

An income that's not comfortably above average, for a start. Anything below £25k is below average.

I'd say anything below £20k is meagre in today's economy- More than liveable, of course, this is a first world country and nobody is truly "poor" if they aren't literally on the streets. I'd consider meagre the sort of level of income where you can afford things, but any big unexpected expense can really fuck you over if you're not careful. Say someone hits your car, the excess on your insurance will likely push you overdrawn; or if the fridge breaks, you have to do without chilled food until payday.

I still stand by the fact that having landlords earn so much, proportionately to income, from people in these demographics is appalling, on the same moral principle as those drugs companies charging a fortune for HIV drugs to those brown people who have flies on their faces. Especially if they're a BTL parasite.
>> No. 6394 Anonymous
20th May 2016
Friday 6:25 pm
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>>6393

Why are you responding as if you're me? Fuck off, you cock.


For info I am >>6392
>> No. 6395 Anonymous
20th May 2016
Friday 6:32 pm
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>>6394

I wasn't, you egotistical moron. This is an anonymous imageboard. You're not having a conversation on MSN fucking messenger.
>> No. 6396 Anonymous
20th May 2016
Friday 6:34 pm
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>>6395

Then preface it with 'Not that lad' or don't write it as if it's in direct reply to that.

I don't want my good posts sullied by you talking shit about HIV and brown people and BTL parasites.
>> No. 6397 Anonymous
20th May 2016
Friday 6:34 pm
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>>6394>>6396
Lad. This is an anonymous board. You're the one being a dick. People answering "as you" is part of the form.
>> No. 6398 Anonymous
20th May 2016
Friday 6:36 pm
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>>6397

Yes, it is anonymous, doesn't mean you have to pretend to answer as other people, particularly when talking such drivel.
>> No. 6399 Anonymous
20th May 2016
Friday 6:36 pm
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>>6398
He wasn't. As >>6395 says, check your ego.
>> No. 6400 Anonymous
20th May 2016
Friday 6:47 pm
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>>6396

You're doing a perfectly good job of sullying them by yourself. Stop acting like such a plank.
>> No. 6401 Anonymous
20th May 2016
Friday 6:54 pm
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>>6382
>nor do I want to teach English in some shithole on the other side of the planet.
You would certainly have a better standard of life in a shithole on the other side of the planet, than you do now living in whatever shithole you live in. Is it me, or are poor people generally very rude and arrogant?
>> No. 6402 Anonymous
20th May 2016
Friday 6:57 pm
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>>6401
It's the sense of entitlement.
>> No. 6403 Anonymous
20th May 2016
Friday 6:59 pm
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>>6398
Are you serious? You really can't be this stupid.
>> No. 6404 Anonymous
20th May 2016
Friday 7:44 pm
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>>6401
Lad, there are all sorts of reasons someone might not want to uproot and leave all their family and friends behind to work in China. Is that difficult for you to understand?
>> No. 6405 Anonymous
20th May 2016
Friday 7:47 pm
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>>6404
Maybe the arrogant cunt should say that then. Besides, it isn't like he has anything going for him. I'm sure he can "text" his mum from a shithole on the other part of the planet.
>> No. 6406 Anonymous
20th May 2016
Friday 11:24 pm
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>>6303
>Off to live in Malta next month.

I currently have a job offer for a company in Malta. For some reason they have offered me the job without even seeing me in person (just via Skype). The salary is pretty good, and I like the company. Its just a bit crazy that I have not seen the place in person.

If I end up going to Malta, we should meet up for a beer.
>> No. 6407 Anonymous
21st May 2016
Saturday 2:22 am
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>>6303>>6406
I am half Maltese and visit the island often - you do realise how hot it is in Summer? Regularly hits 40 degrees. It's a great place to live, cheap, the natives are friendly, but its quite catholic and conservative (both small C).
>> No. 6408 Anonymous
21st May 2016
Saturday 4:57 am
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>>6407

What kind of internet speeds do you get there? Are there any places with a wee bit of lebensraum on the island, or is it all densely populated?
>> No. 6409 Anonymous
21st May 2016
Saturday 5:14 am
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>>6303

I wasn't even aware you could do call centre type work from home. Can you apply directly to work from home or do you generally need to do your time in the office first?
>> No. 6410 Anonymous
21st May 2016
Saturday 8:38 am
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>>6407

I am vaguely aware of the summer heat.

I understand that air-con is a necessity, and sun cream and hats - I am very pale.

The attraction for me is that it seems exotic enough for a interesting lifestyle change / cultural experience, but (mostly) they also conveniently speak english. It also has some pretty good companies to work for, and rock climbing all over the island.
>> No. 6412 Anonymous
21st May 2016
Saturday 1:41 pm
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>>6410
Vaguely aware? Lad its practically North Africa in climate. All the shops close at 12:30 and open again at 4:30 and nobody goes out during that time in Summer. My grandfather was proud of the fact he didn't own a raincoat and used to moan that in December he might have to wear a cardigan sometimes.

If you're into climbing, diving or sailing, you'll be all set. There are no sandy beaches (except one which has imported sand), its a very rocky, craggy landscape.
>> No. 6413 Anonymous
21st May 2016
Saturday 1:42 pm
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>>6408
It has extremely good internet - they passed some tax-break-laws a few years back that mean many of the large gambling and porn firms have their servers there. It's definitely a growth area for the island.

It is very densely populated. There isn't really a "countryside" to speak of, though there are some quiet bits where the tourists don't go.
>> No. 6415 Anonymous
21st May 2016
Saturday 5:06 pm
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>>6414

Be more specific. Offering to meet someone for a pint isn't an unusual occurrence on here. The mods are somewhat sociable, at least historically, so are a few of the Hull lads, or is it that he's off to do a job he hasn't had a face to face interview for (which, to be fair, it seems he'd had to have gone to Malta to do which is probably why it was via Skype).

Your indignation seems strange, is all.
>> No. 6416 Anonymous
21st May 2016
Saturday 6:01 pm
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>>6415
What?
>> No. 6417 Anonymous
21st May 2016
Saturday 6:12 pm
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>>6416
I think you're getting crossed wires over the intended meaning of "what the hell is wrong with you?".
>> No. 6418 Anonymous
21st May 2016
Saturday 6:21 pm
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>>6417
I got crossed wires over the intended recipient of my post. Oops.
>> No. 6419 Anonymous
21st May 2016
Saturday 8:12 pm
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>I got crossed post over the intended recipient of my wires.
>> No. 6420 Anonymous
21st May 2016
Saturday 8:25 pm
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>>6419
About English the cool thing important word order isn't always is.
>> No. 6435 Anonymous
31st May 2016
Tuesday 4:36 pm
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I got the job I had the interview for, roughly doubles my salary.

Hope you're all frothing at the mouth about how struggling I am when I still don't buy that 4K tv.
>> No. 6436 Anonymous
31st May 2016
Tuesday 4:55 pm
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>>6435
Congrats lad. Ignore the trolls that have been posting in this thread, you seem alright.
>> No. 6437 Anonymous
31st May 2016
Tuesday 5:01 pm
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>>6436
Thanks mate.
>> No. 6438 Anonymous
7th June 2016
Tuesday 7:24 pm
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>>6303

Are you there yet, other-Malta-lad?

I will be there in two weeks to finalize the job, and if that goes OK, I will be moving over in August - in time for the seriously hot season.
>> No. 6439 Anonymous
8th June 2016
Wednesday 6:23 pm
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>>6435
Good for you lad. Came in a bit late but I'm with you on poorcunting it out while you wait for something better to come along. I'm on 28k right now and still living like a student because I'm putting most of my salary away to invest in property abroad. Nothing wrong with tightening your belt for a bit if you have a long-term plan.
>> No. 6441 Anonymous
12th June 2016
Sunday 7:31 pm
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>>6439
>I'm putting most of my salary away to invest in property abroad
Tell us more, please.
>> No. 6451 Anonymous
1st July 2016
Friday 11:25 pm
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>>6438

Update, just in case anyone cares. The trip went pretty well so the upshot is I will be starting in august. It shall be interesting!
>> No. 6452 Anonymous
2nd July 2016
Saturday 1:11 am
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>>6439
You want to go from poor cunt to rich cunt, do you?
>> No. 6453 Anonymous
2nd July 2016
Saturday 4:53 pm
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>>6451
How do people arrange for a place to rent and all that? Stay in a hotel and look for a place to rent?

Will you get taxed in both here and there? Is this it? Are you going to build your life there now?
>> No. 6454 Anonymous
2nd July 2016
Saturday 9:43 pm
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>>6453
> How do people arrange for a place to rent and all that? Stay in a hotel and look for a place to rent?

I am staying in an Airbnb (private en-suite room in a flat owned by an Australian ex-pat) for 2 weeks after I arrive. I am optimistic I can find somewhere decent inside that time.

> Will you get taxed in both here and there?

I don't think I will be taxed in both places, but it will probably involve some paperwork.

> Is this it? Are you going to build your life there now?

Not really. I am only planning to stay for 2 years or so. I want to see a bit of the world before I turn 30 and settle down with a fat bird.
>> No. 6455 Anonymous
3rd July 2016
Sunday 1:07 am
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>>6349

Jesus christ, that trolling was fucking cringe inducing. I've rarely posted here over the last 12-18 months, I've just started browsing again over the past week or two. You guys have let your standards slip.

That wasn't even a cunt off, that was some kind of dork-off.

That was that spazzy guy who you went to primary school with - the one who followed all the trends that pre-teens would follow from month to month, the guy that was a complete dick to his mum when she took him shopping with her, until she bought him the trendy waste of plastic so he would cease to make noises with his mouth, who would then run around from group to group in the playground the next day thriving on the mild interest in the thing he had. The kid who had a difficult transition into secondary school and didn't really mature at all for 2 or 3 years, but then all of a sudden one monday was completely 'devoted' to music, and would list and claim to be a fan of every single variation of rock and metal music on his geocities or myspace or whatever generation this twat was in, there's always one. Then when he got older he would pretend to be high when the other kids would see him on the park but weren't able to avoid the eye contact, causing him to come over and talk about his dreamcast. Sometimes these people get a job at 16 at Maplins, and they use their entire life's work in trying to impress people to please the customers aching, throbbing wallets, eventually becoming assistant manager. Or, they go to university, fail to mature again, until their final year, and graduate with a 2:2 in social anthropology (chosen because it sounded kind of cool if you said it with a bit of a sneer, like you were hard done by, but mysteriously clever as well) finally ending up working in a call centre - but a good call centre, selling European timeshare to Americans.

You know 'that guy', there's always one of them, once a year.

But our troll, no -he's not 'that guy'. He's the only kid that was ever impressed by 'that guy', way back in primary school, impressed enough to spend a lifetime imitating him, but lacking any of the social function to successfully act upon the muscular, primal, animal urges that were awakened inside him as he would watch, breathing through his mouth, nose running, as 'that guy' tried to walk-the-dog with his yoyo and talked about limp bizkit.

Yeah. That's you mate.
>> No. 6456 Anonymous
3rd July 2016
Sunday 1:56 am
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>>6455

Fuck me. That burn couldn't be more brutal if it involved an ISIS prisoner and a cage.

You should post more.
>> No. 6457 Anonymous
3rd July 2016
Sunday 1:59 am
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>>6455
So this is how copy-pastas start.
>> No. 6458 Anonymous
3rd July 2016
Sunday 2:09 am
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>>6455


rant rant rant rant rant

Been down that London marchagainstdemocracylad?
>> No. 6459 Anonymous
3rd July 2016
Sunday 2:28 am
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>>6455
You're taking it well.
>> No. 6460 Anonymous
3rd July 2016
Sunday 4:09 am
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>>6455
10/10, enjoyed.
>> No. 6462 Anonymous
21st July 2016
Thursday 7:56 pm
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>>6303

Are you already in Malta? How are you finding it?

I've been looking into rental prices in Malta and it seems that you can rent a 1-2 bedroom flat in Gozo for around 200-250 euros a month, plus there's no council or property tax to pay. If you can get a decent internet connection and work from home doing transcription or call centre work then it looks like working from home in Malta is a far better deal than working from home in Britain.
>> No. 6463 Anonymous
21st July 2016
Thursday 8:52 pm
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>>6462
Gozo ain't Malta lad.
>> No. 6464 Anonymous
21st July 2016
Thursday 9:50 pm
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>>6463

Malta refers to both the island of Malta and the nation of Malta, of which Gozo is a part.
>> No. 6465 Anonymous
22nd July 2016
Friday 6:23 am
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>>6464

"Gozo" in Portuguese means spunk. I've always found that funny.
>> No. 6466 Anonymous
22nd July 2016
Friday 7:20 pm
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>>6462
> Are you already in Malta? How are you finding it?

I am not there yet. I will arrive in the middle of August.

> I've been looking into rental prices in Malta and it seems that you can rent a 1-2 bedroom flat in Gozo for around 200-250 euros a month...

Gozo seems much cheaper than the mainland. I am looking at 1-2 bedroom flats near the centre of Malta proper (i.e. close to the jobs) and there doesn't seem much available for less than 600 euros a month. Also, food seems a bit cheaper than the UK, but not much - it is mostly imported and Malta does not have the large population that the UK has to bring the cost down. Cars are also very expensive (due to import taxes), yet everyone has one because the public transport is unreliable and it is not safe to cycle.

Luckily I am not moving to Malta for the money, and I should be earning enough to be comfortable anyway.
>> No. 6467 Anonymous
22nd July 2016
Friday 8:03 pm
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Go and convince them to have another referendum on becoming part of the UK.

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