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>> No. 15557 Anonymous
23rd June 2014
Monday 11:40 pm
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LET IT GOOOO LET IT GOOOOO JUST FUCKING LET IT GO ALREADY


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>> No. 15558 Anonymous
23rd June 2014
Monday 11:52 pm
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>>15557

These dollfaced Disney heroines freak me out a bit, not sure why. The CGI rendering and semi-realistic skin and hair make it weirder.
>> No. 15559 Anonymous
24th June 2014
Tuesday 12:11 am
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>>15556
Taking a dip into the uncanny valley maybe?
>> No. 15561 Anonymous
24th June 2014
Tuesday 12:33 am
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>>15558
I'd still fuck her CGI brains out though.
>> No. 15562 Anonymous
24th June 2014
Tuesday 12:41 am
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>> No. 15570 Anonymous
24th June 2014
Tuesday 11:15 pm
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>>15562

Good thing that black box was there, or else that image wouldn't have been worksafe.
>> No. 15571 Anonymous
25th June 2014
Wednesday 12:07 am
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>>15570
I still want to see it.
>> No. 15572 Anonymous
25th June 2014
Wednesday 12:28 am
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>>15571

Google image search m8. Well worth the effort, it's a beautifully rendered flange.
>> No. 15573 Anonymous
25th June 2014
Wednesday 12:34 am
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>>15572
>rendered
It's clearly just a photo with the head replaced.
>> No. 15588 Anonymous
26th June 2014
Thursday 5:16 am
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>>15561

My ex was a total headcase who used to make all her own dresses and do costume parties as disney princesses.

To this day my biggest regret is never shagging her as Tinkerbell.
>> No. 15589 Anonymous
26th June 2014
Thursday 7:28 am
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>>15588

I've shagged a girl up the arse while she was wearing fairy wings and tied to a pillar. Several times. I regret nothing.
>> No. 15591 Anonymous
26th June 2014
Thursday 8:51 am
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>>15589
Did you piss in her arse too?
>> No. 15592 Anonymous
26th June 2014
Thursday 9:48 am
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>>15591

Does he look like an animal? Of course he did.
>> No. 15598 Anonymous
27th June 2014
Friday 12:23 pm
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>>15558
Maybe cos they're literally dolls; that is, they all look the fucking same. And that's intentional. Have you seen this ridiculous quote from Frozen's Head of Animation:

Historically speaking, animating female characters are really, really difficult, ’cause they have to go through these range of emotions, but they’re very, very — you have to keep them pretty and they’re very sensitive to — you can get them off a model very quickly. So, having a film with two hero female characters was really tough, and having them both in the scene and look very different if they’re echoing the same expression; that Elsa looking angry looks different from Anna (Kristen Bell) being angry.
>> No. 15599 Anonymous
27th June 2014
Friday 12:27 pm
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>>15598
To be fair to him for blokes animation you can do completely ridiculous head shapes and expressions and still identifiably have it as a bloke, whereas for women they'll end up looking like Cruella de Vil quite easily.

I read that whole wikipedia article the other day.
>> No. 15600 Anonymous
27th June 2014
Friday 12:34 pm
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>>15599
I don't understand your point. Are there no women who resemble Cruella de Vil? Are all women completely bereft of prominent chins and cheekbones?
>> No. 15601 Anonymous
27th June 2014
Friday 12:47 pm
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>>15600
There are to be no Disney Princesses (yes, that's the official name) who resemble Cruella DeVil.
>> No. 15602 Anonymous
27th June 2014
Friday 1:03 pm
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>>15600
I think when you're doing a female protagonist in a kids animated film, there's generally a trend of making them attractive. I think because ugly women tend to be associated with villainy, unless they're fat in which case they're matronly. But you can get away with ugly/fat male protagonists, probably for the same reason they're more accepted in real life. A loud fat man is the jolly life and soul of the party. A loud fat woman is an obnoxious pig.

It's the patriarchy, innit?
>> No. 15603 Anonymous
27th June 2014
Friday 1:25 pm
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Fuck! It's here too. There is no escape.
>> No. 15604 Anonymous
27th June 2014
Friday 1:43 pm
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>>15602
So should one really 'be fair' to the animator, or rubbish his narrow-minded sexism? It's insidious indoctrination of children about what people look like and what it is acceptable for people look like.

>>15603
Innit though. Society informs everything, including what fictional characters look like, and that in turn informs society.
>> No. 15605 Anonymous
27th June 2014
Friday 1:49 pm
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>>15604
It is indeed sexism, but unfortunately I don't think a high budget Disney film will tackle that sort of thing just yet. With Disney things they want to market it and merchandise it within an inch of its life, and it's a lot easier to sell pretty dolls to little girls than it is to sell frumpy ones. I think they even did it with the princess from Brave a few months back, where in the Disney Princesses line of toys they basically removed all her imperfections to make her into a generic super model style princess.

This is problematic in itself because when all the toys/characters that little girls play with and pretend to be are thin flawless women with hourglass figures, the girls will end up developing an unrealistic idea of how they should look which is only worsened when they reach tweenage/teenage years and see all the gossip mags about losing cellulite and getting a toned bum and tum to turn your man on.

It'll take a lot of time and effort for these attitudes to be reversed, and I doubt it'll be Disney taking the big risk just yet.
>> No. 15606 Anonymous
27th June 2014
Friday 2:04 pm
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>>15605
>I think they even did it with the princess from Brave a few months back
They did.
http://www.theguardian.com/film/2013/may/16/disney-princess-merida-makeover

Misstep (and embarrassing reversal) aside, I think Merida from Brave is a pretty good example of Disney bucking the trend, though whether you consider this "taking the big risk" is up to you I suppose. I dare say the sold plenty of dolls either way.
>> No. 15607 Anonymous
27th June 2014
Friday 2:05 pm
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>> No. 15608 Anonymous
27th June 2014
Friday 2:18 pm
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>>15604

>It's insidious indoctrination of children about what people look like and what it is acceptable for people look like.


Hopefully we can count on Disney to indoctrinate many more children into believing that it's not acceptable to look like a fat, obese mess.
>> No. 15609 Anonymous
27th June 2014
Friday 2:33 pm
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>>15607

The thing is though, and I do seriously believe this, men are fucking scum and women are on average at least 3 times better.

And I've thought this pre-internet fisherperson drama so I'm not biased, you scum.
>> No. 15611 Anonymous
27th June 2014
Friday 2:44 pm
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>>15604

I'd be more inclined to grumble about whatever lazy fuck thinks that illustrating and animating women is more difficult than illustrating or animating men. Piss poor excuse really.
Could just be honest and say 'we wanted to do them this way'.
>> No. 15612 Anonymous
27th June 2014
Friday 2:53 pm
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>>15607
When you look at girl's dolls, they're all attractive and slim. Like Barbie, Bratz, Polly Pocket. With boy's toys, there is a lot more diversity. There's obviously the big tough men like He-Man and Action Man, then there's the average kid like Mighty Max, and you've got all sorts of Ghostbusters like the fat schlubby Ray, the nerdy Egon, average guy Peter, black man Winston. Even when there's both male and female characters in a toy line, the females tend to be very sexualised and attractive while the males have more diversity. With He-Man, you've got the big buff and handsome He-Man, but you have creepy Orko and stocky Ram Man and gangly prick Mekanek and German porn star Man-At-Arms. But the female characters tend to be sexy slim Teela and sexy slim Evil-Lyn. Or with Thundercats all the females tend to be beautiful and slender like Pumyra or Cheetarah, while the males have more diversity with shit like Snarf.
>> No. 15615 Anonymous
27th June 2014
Friday 4:20 pm
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>>15612
Evil-Lyn is a villain and Orko is creepy as fuck. No-one wants to be Snarf. You're probably right in general but your given examples of role-models are terrible.
>> No. 15617 Anonymous
27th June 2014
Friday 5:15 pm
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>>15615
I'd rather be Snarf than He-Man. He-Man was a boring fucking boyscout.
>> No. 15618 Anonymous
27th June 2014
Friday 5:28 pm
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Ugly women aren't as easy to empathise with as attractive ones, and women don't generally have the same charisma that enables ugly men, a la shrek, to be treated in the same way. It's not sexism, it's just how it is.
>> No. 15619 Anonymous
27th June 2014
Friday 5:30 pm
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>>15611
The boss/client sets out conditions and expectations that make it more difficult, so it's more difficult.
>> No. 15620 Anonymous
27th June 2014
Friday 5:44 pm
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>>15604
What sexism? People demand that their heroines look pretty all the time, and that's what they're animating. He's saying it's difficult to do so but they achieved it. What's the issue?
>> No. 15621 Anonymous
27th June 2014
Friday 7:08 pm
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>>15620
Sometimes the right thing to do and what "people" want you to do are not the same thing!
>> No. 15622 Anonymous
27th June 2014
Friday 7:25 pm
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I've never actually listened to the real 'let it go' song, I've only listened to 'Shut it down!'

https://www.youtube.com/v/b6ht5sP5P6U

Is the actual film any good?

nb; I'm not antisemitic, I just find the guy's voice funny.
>> No. 15623 Anonymous
27th June 2014
Friday 7:46 pm
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>>15621
That is true. But I don't see what's objectively wrong here.
>> No. 15625 Anonymous
28th June 2014
Saturday 2:53 pm
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>>15622

Kids love it and it's genuinely visually beautiful.

Unfortunately it's entirely derivative of other Disney works. I would not be surprised to discover that the plot was automatically generated by computer from previous Disney movies.

Just rewatch Wall-E, Up or The Incredibles.
>> No. 15626 Anonymous
28th June 2014
Saturday 4:01 pm
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>>15625
You say that but it actively pokes fun of the Disney style at the same time.
>> No. 15627 Anonymous
29th June 2014
Sunday 10:35 pm
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>>15622
>antisemitic
A better term might be 'anti-religious extremist'.
>> No. 15645 Anonymous
1st July 2014
Tuesday 2:41 am
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https://soundcloud.com/kizunami/my-computer-is-frozen

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