They're resurfacing the road between the coal mining museum and Grange Moor roundabout, so it's down to a 20 zone. I was stuck behind a car earlier that kept speeding up to 50 every time it saw the usual speed limit signs on the lampposts but would then brake and drop down to 20 every time it saw the temporary speed limit signs or the speed cameras. It was really odd.

>>34279
They are the reason that average speed cameras are a thing now.

>>34279

They're gradually turning the entire of West Yorkshire into a Sonic level themed around road works, I swear.

>>34279
Can't argue with that approach tbh.

>>34282
Turning a shithole like Wakey into a Sonic level is more than they deserve.

>>34284
Don't be hating on Shitlington.

I'm guessing it's because I went to Morrisons in the middle of the day, but the number of pensioners with absolutely no road awareness driving cars was frightening.

I know people who own cars like a Toyota Aygo are likely to be extremely cautious drivers, but getting stuck behind one attempting to join the motorway at 30mph is ridiculous.

>>34455
>Pensioners

In other words: people who did their driving test decades ago?

I don't mean to sound authoritarian, but there's a strong public safety case for re-taking the driving test periodically after your initial pass. Espacially if you're getting all wobbly and remeniscent about the war. There's a good case for an examiner who could recommend other means of mobility for someone who has been found unfit to drive at 80 years old, for example. I fear that the means to support them wouldnl't be available, though. Another reason for frequent tests would be if you're a Minicab Driver. Since most of those seem to be scratching their teef on beak.

My Wensleydale cheese was made in Shropshire.

Fucking hell, wrong thread.

>>34578
Well maybe not. Think of all that extra traffic transporting the cheese to Shropshire.

I don't know if it's my eyesight getting worse but recently I've found that I'm increasingly dazzled by headlights which are either too bright or set too high, which has been a thing for a while now so I don't know if it's suddenly got even more obnoxious.

>>34684
I think it's because LED head lights are much more prevalent now.

>>34685

LED headlights, more SUVs, more auto-dimming full beams that don't work properly.

>>34686

There really ought to be some sort of regulation on it, ten years ago driving at night was never a problem, but the last couple of years it's almost starting to become something I prefer to avoid.

>>34686
>more SUVs

This is definitely a bit part of it. Most cars are taller now.

I don't have to do it often, but I'm sick of spending 20+ minutes queuing to get off J24 of the M62 all because knobheads keep blocking the roundabout at Ainley Top.

>>34812

There's a quite substatial group of people at my work live over that way and drive over, they are just simply never on time and we have given up on expecting them to be. One of them is getting a new job over in Manchester and he naively said he expects the commute to be better. I felt a bit harsh the way I laughed at him.

Junction 27 master race. Can have a different type of fast food every night of the week on my way home.

Knew I should have worked from home today. About 35 minutes to get in this morning because the roads were dead, followed by taking ~90 minutes to do the journey in reverse after getting sent home at lunch due to a tiny bit of snow.

>>34859
>~90 minutes to do the journey in reverse

Would have gone a bit faster if you drove forwards instead, you muppet.

Why do we make roads out of tarmac, and is there something better we could make them out of to prevent them being full of potholes half the time, and closed of for roadworks to fix the sodding potholes the other half?

You know how in the old Total War games you used to upgrade your roads so your armies could march further? It feels like we've reached the endgame stage of the tech tree without ever bothering to go past fucking tier one roads.

>>34934
The only thing tough enough to take that much traffic is your mum and while there's enough of her to go around she's the wrong shape.

>>34935
Mate, that was bang out of order.

>>34936
I've never met your mum.

>>34934

Tarmac - or more properly, asphalt concrete - is a really sophisticated material with a lot of clever engineering that goes into it. The aggregates are carefully chosen and graded, and the bitumen is mixed with all sorts of polymer additives to enhance durability and grip. You can't see the technology, but huge advances have been made in recent decades.

IMO there are two main reasons for the shocking quality of our roads.

The first is simply a lack of maintenance. Roadways have a hard life due to the forces imparted on them by traffic and the effects of weather. They will inevitably crack over time and those cracks will inevitably turn into potholes if they aren't promptly fixed. Mainly due to austerity, we've fallen into a vicious cycle where preventative maintenance is postponed, which leads to rapid deterioration of roadways, which increases maintenance costs while also reducing quality. Short-term thinking has become a long-term habit, with quick fixes being repeated again and again rather than fixing things properly.

The other big issue is that nobody is really in charge. Hundreds of utilities have the right to dig up roads more or less whenever they feel like it. That right comes with the responsibility to repair the roadway to original condition, but there are no real consequences for just bodging it with a "temporary" reinstatement, because most councils don't have the resources to properly monitor and control street works.

We're living in a failed state TBH.

>>34939
There have been various efforts to improve coordination on street works by councils, with a view to getting streets dug up once for multiple utilities to do whatever work they need before patching it up once.

The results of that can be judged by yet more guidance as recently as last year, and in London the Mayor's office offering a whole bunch of new funding for it.

My utopian state has wide pavements / cycle routes with concrete trenches and removable tops to access the utilities then replace. Running services under roads is just unfair to the roads, it's too much to ask.
Or does my utopian state abandon roads and just have wide grass trackways and heavy-lift hovercraft for the big stuff, and airships / silent drones for the rest.
Or maybe it's just me and some sheep, and fuck the roads. Yeah, probably that. I should probably move.

Was at a busy T-junction earlier wanting to turn left when a car pulled alongside me, started pulling out to turn left when I did before getting angry and beeping their horn at me.

I know it's a bit cold out, but on a ~15 minute round trip two cars managed to overshoot stopping at separate T-junctions, ending up with at least one-third of their cars sticking out onto the main road (in front of me).

Can we have an official .gs enquiry into just what it is that makes the average driver in Bradford so aggressively retarded?

I mean, not just retarded, and not just aggressive, but a special kind of belligerent stupidity, where they actively make dangerous decisions just to antagonise you. Treating driving like a competition to be in a certain space instead of allowing people to merge and traffic to flow. Shadowing your passenger side shoulder instead of allowing you to pull in or even just undertaking you. Going out of their way to obstruct you, pulling out on you, getting the lanes wrong on roundabouts and then driving up your arse and blaring their horn like it's your fault, all of that.

It can't just be the ethnic demographic.

>>35972

Allegedly, the Thornbury test centre is bent.

>>35972
>It can't just be the ethnic demographic.

As far as I can tell, that's the main reason for it. I think Asians have a more lax view of rules than we do and see them as more optional and flexible.

-Touch screen controls for the heater and radio that force you to take your eyes off the road because you can't do it by feel

-Automatic wipers that you can't set to the right speed because even if you put them on 1, 2 or 3, they still vary their speed based on the sensors

-Seatbelts that pin you to your seat when, and only when, you need to lean forward to see at a sharply angled junction

>>36086
Touch screens are so incredibly perfect for smartphones and almost nothing else at all. The death of the button is tragedy and a farce.

Twice in the past two days I've nearly had someone both women drive into me at this roundabout because they're incapable of following the lines on the road.

>>36190

I do remember it changing at one point. I think for a while, the signs lied to you and told you to use the middle/right one for A650, but the lanes merged differently. Or the other way around. But I also might have made that up in my head as an explanation for why people are so consistently getting it wrong on that specific exit, because it really is noticeable.

I think partly it's because Tingley roundabout is one of those junctions where if you live anywhere in the surrounding area, you've been through and around it probably thousands of times in your life. People navigate by memory, not looking at signs, so any layout changes will just have loads of people doing it wrong. Then again it's also one of those Big Roundabouts that people are just shite at in general.

>>36193

Hang on I was thinking your picture was of the bit coming off M62 East.

But I do always hedge my bets if I'm coming off Bradford Road onto the ring road towards White Rose too, someone will always be in the wrong lane on this bit and have to veer across.

I don't understand why so many people struggle with zipper merging.

>>36294

It's not the merging they don't understand but the same principle as with random waves of motorway traffic- People don't understand that if everyone slows down and leaves more of a gap, the traffic will flow faster and ultimately everyone gets through quicker; but people only thing of themselves and want to be as far ahead as possible.

>>4879
My observation is almost the complete opposite, at least in heavy congestion. It's actually people in the right lane merging way too early that fucks it up the most, at least for people who started in the left lane . The left lane can progress at less than a quarter of the speed as the right one because of this.

>>36294

It's because we have it so ingrained in our heads on proper queue etiquette that it feels wrong when someone ends up in front of you, which makes people with small brains very angry.

Obviously if everyone had to actually read the highway code there'd be less of this, but I've noticed even when you explain zipper merging is the correct thing to do and actually saves people in both lanes time or from even queuing at all, most of them still argue it's somehow worse to do it.

>>36299

They should be progressing at exactly the same speed, as one car from each lane should be merging in turn.

The M18 is weird. Two heaving lanes doing about 65mph while the left-hand lane is almost empty

>>36312
Why would cars be driving in the HGV lane?

Torrential rain and shitloads of surface water on the motorway? Better make sure I don't put on my lights so I can barely be seen in all the spray.

My new car has lane assist, I swear it's trying to kill me.

>>36540
It's just trying to keep you in lane so it can smash you into the car in front.

I've noticed that there seems to be an uptick in the number of drivers who seem to take it very personally when I overtake them and will speed up while I'm going past them, e.g. I was on the motorway earlier and there was an Audi 4x4 doing just under 70mph but as soon I was ahead of them they went up to 80; after I pulled behind them they went back to doing below 70 again.

Today on the M1 I had a van driver, who'd been tailgating me and other cars while flashing his lights and weaving between lanes, wind down his window and shout that I was driving dangerously because, in heavily queuing traffic, I was going at a steady pace rather than accelerating as quick as I could to the cars in front just so I could slam on my brakes when I'd caught up with them, as they were going slower than I was.