>>446940
Do you think the attacker was high on cake?

>>446941
Have a heart, m8.

He's confirmed to be newly dead.

Kind of shocking and shite.

This is from his book that was published last year.

>>446941
I knew I'd heard his name before.

>>446949
It's how he'd have wanted to be remembered.

>>446941
Ha.

Yet again it was a man what did it.

When will enough be enough?

>>446952

Too many girls grow up being told that the unprovoked murder of a parliamentarian is "unfeminine" or "men's work". We need a grassroots campaign to break through the stereotypes and get more women involved in senseless violence. Do your bit for gender equality - buy your daughter a knife, teach your sister how to use a garotte, take your niece to a Millwall game.

>>446953
>take your niece to a Millwall game

Would buy a t-shirt with this on it. Post-modern fishing.

It wouldn't go down very well.

Britain.

>>446961
I don't really understand your point, if you even have one.

Ah, I'm glad there has finally been an act of militant woggery we can all get behind, and we won't have to endure six months of identity politics nonsense about how the poor vulnerable unprotected female politicians feel scared to leave the house to go to work oppressing the masses.

>>446963
Indeed. 40 years a Tory cunt, he had it coming.

>>446963

Twitter is already suggesting that the use of the phrase "tory scum" is what lead to this.

>>446965
Well, good riddance to tory scum. I have no beef with you if you're conservative, or vote conservative, or think Labour is a hive of villainy. Thank's two party system, you have to come down one way of the divide or the other.

But 40 years a tory in a "safe seat" and a Sir? I'm going to assume you're a grifter and a shister.

>>446965
On the assumption that twitter, like an infinitude of monkeys with typewriters, has every possible opinion, who the fuck cares what twitter thinks?

>>446967

Literally just pointing out people are using it for identity politics already, you daft cunt.

>>446968
Meh. IDPol maniacs use everything for IDPol. My apathy stands, but knock yourself out.

>>446969

I suspect you weren't the person who posted >>446963, in which case, why are you acting as if your opinion here is useful or interesting?

If you did post >>446963, then what was the fucking point of posting it if you didn't want the idea to be engaged with?

>>446970
Because I have an irrational not-give-a-fuckery about people reporting shit off twitter as if it's interesting or relevant. It's as bad as the daily mail.

If we're going to make baseless speculation, I reckon it was an anti-vaxxer what did it.

>>446972
Anti-vaxxers think it's the deep state forcing them to get vaccinations, the Tories are just helpless victims on their side somehow.

>>446972
Colonel Mustard in the library with the Candlestick.

>>446971

Are you saying a site designed so anyone can post their opinion is not a valid way to collate opinions?

I told someone earlier he'd been stabbed and when they asked "where?" I replied "in the chest, probably". They didn't think it was as funny as I did.

>>446976
Swing and amess.

>>446977
That's what happened.

My source in the media says it's Insulate Britain ramping up their public protests.

>>446970

I'm '63, and he's not me.

Otherlad just really hates Twitter, like that guy from a while back who just really hated Rudgewick. Understandable, but I do get "protests too much" vibes from it.

Forgive me if I'm connecting the dots prematurely otherlad, but that couldn't have been you too, could it? You really don't seem to like it when we sneer at the brainworm infested cretins on other websites, and it comes of as really very... Defensive.

>>446980

I don't think that was me.

I don't really care what anyone thinks about twitter or rudgewick, his response just struck me as infuriatingly knowitall, considering I felt it was quite an innocuous but entirely valid response to your post.

I am not the type to be defensive of anyone on the internet, particularly not two sites I only ever mindlessly browse and never actually post on. Although, perhaps there's a point to be made about how our site is exactly the fucking same, the posts just have bigger words in them sometimes,

So apparently it was a Somali guy. Definitely a turrist and not a nutter then.

Honestly I can't decide if I would have preferred it to have been a white bloke. I think that side of the predictable shitshow is at least a bit less tedious than it being just another Muzlaminc turrr attack.

>>446982

I definitely imagined it to be a white bloke. It seems like a very white bloke thing to do, stab a tory MP at a constituency meeting.

>>446982

British national, though. Looks like there will be a tedious debate after all.

>>446986
Which is absurd. He's as British as you or me, and Somali immigrants are good for our society.

>>446982
That explains why the one at work turned down going to the pub with us today, said something about safety - which I guess makes sense now, if he expects to be attacked. Which I doubt wouldn't happen anyway.

>>446988

The people who inexplicably approve of Priti Patel are currently all frothing at the mouths to do I don't know what to anyone they can assume is an immigrant.

>>446982
>Honestly I can't decide if I would have preferred it to have been a white bloke

I'd prefer it if it was some curvy academic/schoolteacher and all the pictures the press can find are of her shaking her tits or being naughty with another girl in the library. The police try to give her some clothes (she attacked naked) but the jumper they give doesn't fit her.

After this and the attack in Norway those cheeky Shamanismists better pack it in rather than playing silly buggers.

Top marks to The Sun, they find out the killer's father is shielding as he's been very unwell so they go and doorstep him to get his thoughts on what happened.

>>446987
>Good for our society

Aren't Somali immigrants statistically the worst performing immigrants you can possibly take in? They have the lowest rate of employment of any immigrant and perform incredibly poorly across the board. I'm struggling to see how they are good for our society.

>>447057
Their long skinny arms will be good for covering hard to reach places, like wiping a fat old woman's arse in a care home, which will make them proficient in the jobs the indigenous population don't want to do even when there's staff shortages thanks to Brexit.

>>447057

No, that's incorrect.

>>447059
>Somali-born migrants have the lowest employment rate among all immigrants in the UK.[109] Figures published by the Office for National Statistics show high rates of economic inactivity and unemployment amongst Somali immigrants.

>>447060
If we're going to argue people's value based on "economic inactivity and unemployment" we'd best get started deporting all those lazy white fuckers that won't do poorly-paid work.

>>447059
Wait, who are the worst performing then? Not him but very concerned that some other workshy group is stealing all our bennies and not doing their homework yet blaming it on Somalis.

Is it the white working class, coming over 'ere with their class reductionism and love of pork products in gravy.

>>447061
Have you read the comments in The Mail? They hate scroungers nearly as much as they hate immigrants; they'd gladly see the untermensch booted out of this country. Don't forget that cutting benefits was massively popular under David Cameron; every time they did it they went up in the polls.

>>447063
Mail readers are exactly the sort of feckless, lazy, non-contributing skivers we need to boot out of the country. Perhaps we can deport them to Diego Garcia or something.

>>447060

If you knew it was correct, why did you phrase it originally as a question?

>>447061
What metrics would you apply to a potential immigrants value, then? If these people are "good for our society" then let us know why exactly.

>>447066

I think you're missing the point.

I can't help but find very distasteful how eager MPs and the press are to draw comparisons between people calling them cunts on Twitter and a man most of them will have met actually being brutally murdered in his constituency office.

>>447066
I would like to stress that I'm not the person you replied to, before I post the objective truth that the quality of an immigrant group is directly linked to the deliciousness of the food they bring with them.

>>447069
Another L for the Somalis then.

>>447069
That's a very good hypothesis.

Also I found these - Somalian nafaqo - it's a Scotch Egg made with mashed potatoe instead of the sausage meat. I like the sound of this very much.

>>447071
Sort of like a giant chip with an egg in it.

Lads, think about it more long term, ffs. We're an island nation and the sea levels are rising. Who the fuck else do we need other than experts in guerrilla sea warfare?

>>447071
Well that looks fucking great.

>>447068
I think if there's one common attribute between politicians and journalists it's that they're the sort of people who will make a funeral all about them.

>>447073
The Dutch.

>>447068
They've kind of got a point. Things have become very polarised and there is a lot less civility towards those with differing viewpoints. Letting normal people on the internet was a huge mistake.

>>447073
We should make all Somalis settle in Bristol. We'd end up with the best pirates around.

Somalis aren't economic migrants, most of them are here due to being refugees and asylum seekers. I think their civil war from the 1990s hasn't even officially ended.

>>447076
>We'd end up with the best pirates around.

Stick a bunch of them in Hastings, give them a bunch of RIBs and tell them their job is to defend the channel from intruders - way more effective than Border Farce and probably cheaper.

>>447079
I don't get why the boat people don't head for Jersey or Guernsey instead. The weather's nicer and there's plenty of jobs picking potatoes for them.

>>447066
I don't know. What metrics to we apply to non-immigrants' value? Plenty of them are not "good for our society" but they still get to live here.

>>447081
Do I really need to point out the difference to you?

>>447085
Yes, please do.

I’m in no way blaming people for being murdered. However, does it not occur to MPs that the growing chorus of voices who wish they would die might have deeper implications than “Twitter’s bad”? Banning online anonymity doesn’t change the fact that people bloody hate you, nor does it seem to have anything to do with Ali Harbi Ali‘s decision to murder Martin Amess. Ten years of things getting worse while none of the pre-existing conditions were addressed might be getting to some people, and on the other hand Prevent isn’t fit for purpose. I’m not trying to turn always online nutters into folk heroes, but I do consider them to be the tip of the iceberg, so to speak.

Sorry if this reads poorly, it’s late and I’m on my phone.

>>447100
Remember that MPs are really between a rock and a hard place. They have to listen to us, and also to the sort of people in the audience when Question Time is filmed in Burnley or somewhere. They can't please both the news-addicted political heads and the Sun-reading reactionary simpletons at the same time; we're just too diametrically opposed. So they have to pick one. And obviously the people who post here are angry, because there aren't enough of us to win an election and that means we get ignored every single time. But if there was a way to persuade everyone to vote for them, they'd do it. They have to go on TV every week to represent their electorate, fully aware that no matter what they say, at least 30% of the people in their constituency are going to want them to die. Any attempt to change this will turn another 30% against them, maybe more. They really are stuck. Helping us and accommodating our revolutionary spirit will just turn a whole other cohort into budding machete artists instead.

Also,
>Martin Amess
My fevourett aufor. The MP was David Amess.

>>447101
I can't help but feel this puts MPs in a more sympathetic light than they deserve in terms of their politics, yet perhaps less sympathetically than they deserve as human beings. A lot of the time they hold opinions and worldviews which seem calculated to alienate 70% of the general public, but which are popular in their own small social circles and party cliques. The peak of this sort of thing being WhatsApp inspired madness like Change UK The Independent Group. In policy terms it's very rare to find an MP who comes across as having an impressive understanding of the relevant issues, the sort of thing you'd want if someone was seriously trying to balance the competing interests of their constituents on the big issues of the day.

And yet at the same time, most MPs aren't necessarily there to be political at all. Political decisions have mostly been the prerogative of party leadership for decades, where those decisions are still in the state's hands at all. The natural result is that MPs are often just lobby-fodder for their party machine, their careers regularly dangling at the whims of how the public perceive the party and leader even when they've been perfectly good at their other major function: to be a sort of social worker of last resort and general problem solver for people in their constituency, someone who can try and cut through the mess that our government's in by making some phone calls or whatever else needs doing for their local area which has ultimately fallen to them. And that can't be an easy job - if you re-frame that as being the main part of their job, with standing in the division lobbies being a minor distraction and speaking in parliament mostly being an excuse to appear in the local paper then it suddenly starts to fit into place how a public-spirited human being with nothing but good intentions who is widely regarded as being very helpful in their local area and who seemed like a nice sort when you met them is suddenly transformed into a barbaric monster the moment you take a glance at TheyWorkForYou.

>>447100
>Ten years of things getting worse while none of the pre-existing conditions were addressed might be getting to some people

The effects of austerity haven't been evenly spread, to the point that it's a bit of a nebulous concept to many. If you're not a public sector worker or on benefits then it's not going to have had much of a tangible impact on your life, maybe it's a bit harder to book in at your GP or the library that you walk past and never go in is rarely open but that's about it really. The overwhelming majority don't use food banks either and many people don't trust statistics trotted out on poverty because they constantly move the goalposts.

What we have seen under the Tories is the personal allowance rise from £6,475 to £12,570, meaning people are keeping more than £2,000 of their income. The minimum wage has also gone up from £5.93 to £8.91. RPI from the end of March 2010 to the end of March 2021 is about 34.5% cumulatively so these are real terms increases that disproportionately benefit the lowest paid workers.

Most people have barely felt the effects of austerity. Most people aren't reading the Guardian every day so are missing out on the misery of being constantly told how shit everything is and having a negative slant put on almost everything.

Okay so this is now being used as the justification for an Online Harm's Bill called "David's law", against online anonymity because in Tory logic, he was murdered because some people have sent MPs abusive messages.

At least from Mark Francois anyway. I don't know.

>>447108

I'm not sure who they think they're kidding with shit like this, when they can already track you down just fine. Hiding behind an anime profile pic and the username "GiantCock420/69" on Twitter isn't going to hold the NSA/MI5 and the Five Eyes security network back for long.

Or is it? Is that what they are tacitly admitting here? That despite decades of internet surveillance infrastructure, these cretins are stumped because I used a pseudonym for Facebook?

>>447101
Oh, bugger. Apologies to David. As I said it was very late.

Overall though I have to disagree with your outlook. It’s the politicians’ unwillingness to present real ideas and make earnest attempts to persuade that has led us here. What’s happening is the reasons for everything being horrid are not addressed, if they’re spoken of at all, so the public are left to believe any old nonsense in an attempt to rationalise the state of the country. I’m not speaking of revolution, I just want actual political discussion rather than the void we have in Westminster at this moment, in which Tories treat voters like children and Labour treats them like early teens. I think this would go some way to ameliorating the widespread hate MPs are stumped by.

>>447112

NSA/MI5 etc can't deal with everyone at once, their resources to handle paperwork are limited and they do have bigger priorities, some of the time at least. This would make it easier for police and employers to punish individuals at a larger scale and at a much lower threshold.

Or for, say, an MP to sicc a mob of their followers on individuals who speak out against them, with no judicial or legal oversight at all and obvious chilling effect. Remember when Priti Patel talked about judges who disagreed with her being enemies of the people or whatnot then some muckrag ran headlines with their photos in? It would give them the power to do that at a much more granular level and without needing to rope newspaper editors into it.

>>447114

There are just not enough words in the English language, French, German, Arabic, Japanese, Russian, or fucking Martian to describe what kind of a bad idea the removal of internet anonymity is. If anything we should be going the opposite way and banning real life identification from the internet altogether, it's barmy.

>>447115
It's easy for you to say things like this, but you don't have to deal with the harrowing abuse some of our MPs get.

>>447117
Sounds like he has already been repeatedly hit in the head with hammers.

>>447114

>This would make it easier for police

It's already easy for police. The major ISPs and social media companies all have dedicated law enforcement departments who will quickly fulfil requests for the identity of a user. The idea that the police are powerless to identify "GiantCock420" is nonsense, they just don't have the manpower to chase down everyone who is rude on the internet. They barely have the manpower to answer 999 calls.

>>447132

That's exactly the point I was making.

>The man accused of murdering Sir David Amess in a daft militant wog attack allegedly began plotting to kill an MP two years ago, a court has heard.

>Ali Harbi Ali, 25, was charged on Thursday with stabbing to death the Southend West MP during a constituency surgery in Leigh-on-Sea in Essex last Friday. Mr Ali, from north London appeared in the dock at Westminster Magistrates' Court accused of murder and also preparing acts of militant daft woggery between May 1 2019 and September this year.

>It is understood the plot was inspired by Shamanismic State and it is alleged he previously focused on two other politicians. He is said to have carried out reconnaissance at one of their homes, the surgery of another and the Houses of Parliament.

>Prosecutor James Cable told the court Mr Ali had made a midday appointment to see Sir David at his surgery at Belfairs Methodist Church in Leigh-on-Sea. During the meeting with the MP he was seen using his mobile phone and then allegedly stood up and stabbed Sir David with a large knife.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/10/21/ali-harbi-ali-charged-sir-david-amess-murder/

Two years seems like a long time to come up with the plan of "go to his surgery and stab him."

>>447203
How come MI5 never picked this up? Two years is a long time.

I don't understand how a 23 year old would start planning to murder an MP. I was trying to find a better job, chasing women and drinking too much at that age.

>>447203
To be fair a lot of us made plans in 2019 that we never got to carry out.

>>447203
>During the meeting with the MP he was seen using his mobile phone

Someone at the telegraph knows what really happened. DJ Harbi-between-two-Alis was brainwashed by the illuminate who sent a subliminal messages to his phone to have him murder a politician who was going to expose the conspiracy.

Remember to check back on this post in 10-20 years when the truth comes out.